May 22, 2025 • 35 mins
With Dan Caplis still in court, Kristi Burton Brown fills in on today's show. In the first hour, KBB reacts to the news that the House of Representatives has passed Donald Trump's Big Beautiful Bill. KBB also breaks down what the bill means for Coloradans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
The two thoughts there. Number one, we're going to pass
the bill. We've got to pass the bill, because here's
the alternative. Americans are facing the largest tax increase in history.
If we don't pass this, the average Colorado family of four,
we'll see their federal taxes go up by over two
thousand dollars if we don't extend the Trump Tax cuts
and Jobs APPS. And that, by the way, that affects
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the bottom eighty four percent of people of wage earners
in Colorado. We're extending the standard deduction, so millionaire's itemize,
we're not doing anything with that. We're extending the standard deduction,
which impacts the bottom eighty four percent of wage jarners.
For the average family of four in Colorado, that reduces
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their federal tax burden by over two two thousand dollars.
We're making sure that small businesses have a level playing
field with the big corporations by making sure that their
tax rate doesn't double. We're protecting again those working families
by making sure that the child tax credit, which is
currently at two thousand dollars, doesn't get cut in half
down to one thousand dollars. So that's why I'm confident
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that we're going to get this piece of legislation passed.
And you know, anything that's worth doing is quite often
difficult in doing so we're continuing to negotiate and fine
tune the details and make sure that this is the
absolute best product that it can be. But at the
end of the day, we're going to get it across
the finish line.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
That was Congressman Gave Evans talking about the passage of
what's known as the Big Beautiful Bill in the House today,
the budget bill pushed by President Trump and Speaker Mike
Johnston and the Republicans in the House, getting it across
the finish line. I'm christopheron Brown. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show. This is one of multiple issues we're going
to talk about today, as the news went a little
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crazy with all the stories, especially on the national level.
But there's, of course, as usual, a divergence of thought
among Republicans on this big, beautiful bill. Is it really
everything gets cracked up to be?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Is it good.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
For the average working family? I think there's no question
the answer to that is yes. But we're going to
go through some different opinions. As you might imagine. Representative
Thomas Massey is on a different side, thinking that it
actually sets up a debt bomb because it doesn't solve
some of the issues he thinks it needs to solve.
You have a congressman across the nation, like Representative Gabe
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Evans from Colorado's CDA, one of the working class districts
in our state, congressman in similar districts across the nation
saying this is exactly what we need to do to
get working families the money they need back in their pockets.
Extend the twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts that were set
to expire, and just do some basic, good tax cuts
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that Republicans used to do all the time, and it's
about time to make them permanent and do them again.
Other objections, though probably the biggest one rising up is
what happened to all the Doge cuts? Where did those go?
Who wanted those gone? Because Democrats are in the minority
in the House, and the Senate. And so that is
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a big question popping up from conservative circles yesterday and
today is when Republicans are in charge, when we hold
power in the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Why was that on the chopping lock? What happened to
those cuts?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think that's a big question that's going to have
to get answered at some point. Although President Trump pushing
very hard for everyone to finish passing and celebrate the
one big, beautiful bill, as he says in all caps
on his Twitter account, I do think it's worth it
to go through a few pieces of this bill that
will matter to a lot of working families and just
average people across America. It does reinstate and I just
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continue the Trump twenty seventeen tax cuts that were set
to expire. It also would it act no tax on
tips policy, no tax on overtime tax deductions when you
purchase an American made vehicle.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Some strong border security measures are in it. There's also
pay raises for ice and border patrol agents. He also
claims to be implementing a Trump savings accounts for newborn babies.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I do not know what that one is. That's what
I would have to look up. There's a lot in
this bill. It is big, indeed. But Ryan Anderson, a
respected conservative who I think he used to work for
Heritage Foundation. Not exactly sure where he is right now,
but a scholar is spoken across the nation at conservative conferences,
cannot accuse him of not being conservative. And he says
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the one big, beautiful bill isn't perfect, but it does
some very good things.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Here are the ones that he names.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
A lot of these are going to be very important
to conservatives. It defunds planned parenthood, and not just the
abortion side of planned parenthood, which of course a lot
of people would say, oh, the government wasn't actually paying
for abortions through planned parenthood. That actual depends on what
funding you're looking at. But what a fact that no
one disputes is is that there's over five hundred million
dollars in federal money. So federal tax payer dollars going
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to planned parenthood for whatever plan para. Who wants to
claim it's for birth control, STD testing screenings, all these
other things. But if you know anything about money, you
know it's fungible. So when the federal government is putting
over five hundred million dollars into the nation's leading abortion giants. Obviously,
that's going to help them continue that business. And so
that is one thing Ryan Anderson points out that this
bill would do is completely defund play in parenthood, take
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them out of all medicaid funding.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
He says that also defunds all.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
These are his words, sex rejecting transition procedures. So basically
the government won't be funding a gender ideology surgeries either anymore.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It increases the child tax credit.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Congressman Gave Evans mentioned that in his clip that we
played right at the beginning of the show. That's good
news to families and to people maybe having more kids.
You will have an increase in the child tax credit.
And again I think everyone knows this, but this has
also got to pass the Senate. Often the Senate will
scale back some of the big changes that happen in
the House on budget bills. For example, the House has
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passed the defunding of planned parenthood before, and then it
just could quite get through the Senate. So we'll see
what happens when this goes to the Senate. But sense
Republicans are in control of the Senate and the presidency,
we should see big movement on.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Most if not all of these issues.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Another big thing that conservatis are talking about, the Ryan
Anderson mentions, is that it creates a new school choice
tax credit that sets the stage for universal school choice.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Now talking to some of.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
My friends who work in the school choice space about
this and the bill, and it's not necessarily everything everyone
is hoping for.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Basically, it's not a voucher.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It's not a tax credit that if you send your
kid to a private school or you homeschool them, you're
going to get all that paid for by the government
through an ESSA. It's actually not that, But instead it
actually sets up a way for corporations to give money
that will go.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
To private school It's round about way of doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Actually take a long time to explain all the complications
of it, but I grew with Ryan Anderson that it
sets the stage for universal school choice. It's almost like
one of those first steps on the way towards making
sure that funding follows the student, not the system, and
that people aren't excluded from having their child's education paid
for just because they want to put their child into
religious school, or just because they want to pull their
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child out of a failing school and homeschool them. Right now,
kids like that they don't get their education paid for
by the government while all other children do. Like you
want to put your kid in a failing neighborhood school,
it's going to get fully covered. You want to put
your kid in a successful private school down the road,
it's going to have to come out of your pocket.
So embedded into this big, beautiful bill is the beginnings
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of universal school choice on the federal level. There's a
lot of states across the nation that have enacted it,
but this is a step I think in a really
good direction for the federal government. Again, not everything.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
People would want, and I think that's what we.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
See in any bill like this that is wide ranging
that covers something as big as budget. You could pick
apart any piece of it and say, I don't think
that should exist. I think this should be better. That's
going to cause debt, that's not a big enough cut.
What are they thinking over there? And many of those
concerns are gonna be very very valid. But you're going
to have conservatives, moderate, you know, even some liberals across
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the spectrum.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And the real question.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is is this as a whole a good policy. Is
it moving our country in the right direction in many
different ways. I think the answer to that is clearly yes.
Whether or not you think the doged cuts should also
be part of it should also.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Be on the table, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And whether or not you'd like to see other changes
or bigger tax cuts or anything like that, those are
all debatable and interesting issues. But I think it is
clear that this bill is good. Whether or not it
could be better is of course a question that we
can always ask about any bill.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
But it is good.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We're going to continue to talk about it, and I
will also play you the opposite side from Representative Thomas
Massey and his how he like shreds the bill to pieces,
basically in his statement, So we'll play that when we
come back from the break. If you have thoughts on
the past of this bill, what should be in it,
what shouldn't be in it? Why was Doge left behind?
You can call in eight five five four zero five
eight two five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown, or you
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can text your thoughts to Dan at five seven seven
three nine.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
People in the modern world think the song that Ryan
is just playing for us right now is very creepy.
When it comes to a romantic relationships. But here's where
I think it's perfect. When you talk about the government.
This is exactly how people should be thinking of the government.
And I'm pretty sure that's all Ryan was thinking too.
When you are looking at this so called big beautiful
bill that the Trump administration and Congress work together to pass,
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we should be holding them accountable to make sure it
has what it needs to have in it, whether it's
you know, administration that we largely agree with, or whether
it's the progressive liberals in Denver that we largely do.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Not agree with.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
In any case, I'm a fan of holding government accountable,
citizens getting involved and never just being like, oh, well,
I think I mostly agree.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
With that guy, so whatever he does is probably fine.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
No, you actually don't know if it is unless you
personally look into it, or if someone close to you
that you trust.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Look into it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
So I'm a big advocate for that. Thank you for
reminding us of that with that song, Ryan, that we
can recategorize as a political song.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I can, and it's actually dovetailing off of one of
the texts we got because I feel this person's pain
and frustration. Hey, Christy, I'm so angry that yet again
we kick the can down the road and aren't cutting
things right now. How much more can we the people
bleed out before we die?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And I feel like this texture should send this to
Trump because they use capital letters similar to how Trump
uses that. So well done, whoever you are texting in
And actually I wanted to get to this text too,
so Ryan, thanks for reading it. And I think this
is the sentiment of a lot of people right now.
It's like and I think there's two different things about
this bill. This text are saying we aren't cutting anything
right now. So we're not cutting anything in government right now.
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That's absolutely right with the Doge cuts. Like I said,
on the chopping block, I don't know who did that,
and I think that's really important to figure out whose
call was that. Why did that go on the chopping
block With a Republican conservative controlled administration, House and Senate,
that isn't the right answer.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I think.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
On the other side of the issue is cutting taxes.
This bill is cutting taxes, and I think those are
two different issues when you say and two different things
that we should be cutting. We should be cutting government spending,
we should be cutting down the debt, and we also
should be cutting people's taxes. Basically, I need to take
an ax to all of it when it comes to
any budgetary issue right now at the federal level.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
And so I think you know, that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Is one thing that when you have complete power and
you don't to give people what they've been demanding, what
they think you elected for, that is a huge problem.
And it's often how people don't get re elected. It's
often sort of the blowbok blowback that happens in midterms,
like against sometimes Republicans right now they're coming up for
reelection twenty twenty six. If voters continue to have this
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sentiment like, hey, I voted for you. I put you
in office because you promised to.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Cut waste, to cut fraud, to work with Doge and
do all these things.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And now when you had the chance the two years
of all this power and you didn't do it, how
can I trust you? And then we usually do is
those people don't go vote for Democrats.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
They just don't vote.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And of course I am not suggesting that I think
that is a very bad thing to do. I think
you always have to vote for the best option that
you have, even if it isn't a perfect option, and
then you need to work to hold them accountable. And
I think for the problem too is we have seen
so many years in government where people have wanted so
much change, Like the change that we need is giant.
And so when you see the Trump administration come in,
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you see the Congress working right now, and they are
doing some changes that.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
People have asked for, but they're not doing all of it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I feel like that's sort of the push and
pull is like, Okay, we are getting something, but we're
not getting everything. And we've waited so long to get
all of these things. When is it actually going to happen?
It will it ever happen? So I think the sentiment
from our texture here is very, very valid. I'm going
to go ahead and play a clip from Representative Thomas Massey.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
He is I's reading the big beautiful Bill. Let's listen in.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Under the taxing and spending levels in this bill, we're
going to rack up the author say, twenty trillion dollars
of new debt over the next ten years. I'm telling
you it's closer to thirty trillion dollars of new debt
in the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Mister Speaker.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
We're not rearranging debt chairs on the Titanic tonight. We're
putting coal into boiler and set in a course for
the iceberg. If something is.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
If something is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
If something is beautiful, you don't do it after midnight.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I pose this bill I've expired.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, something is beautiful, you don't do it after midnight.
That's that is an interesting quote. But so that was
Representative Thomas Matthew talking about the debt that he thinks
this bill is creating. And I want to say he
thinks it because he has a different calculation than the
official calculation. I have not personally calculated it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Who's right, but both say that this will create more debt,
which is what a lot of people have said, we
don't need any more of in at the federal level.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Mike Lee, who's another one.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I like to actually honestly prefer how he explains things
to Representative Massey and just a personal preference. I've heard
Senator Lee talk in person. I think he explains things really,
really well. But he says this could be the death
of the GOP if we don't enact the DOGE cuts.
The federal debt will swallow us whole without even bothering
to chew. I think that that is a very good
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line from Senator Lee. He definitely looks into everything himself
personally examines it, and has talked for a very long
time about cutting the national debt. And so here is
I think the problem. Instead of taking everything and dealing
with all of it, which I think you should do
when you have both houses and the presidency, we see
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everyone you know up there in DC claiming a victory
by re enacting tax cuts, expanding the child tax credit,
defunding Plan Parent, and all things we have to do.
But leaving the debt alone and not doing the DOGE cuts.
I think that is going to make a lot of
people if they don't come back and say, Okay, now
we had to split them up for whatever reason, but
now the next thing we're going to do is cut
the waste the front of the debt. So I'm gonna
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go ahead and take a caller in just a second.
You also can call in eight five five four zero
five eight two five five if you have thoughts about
this bill, about the debt, about the DOGE cuts, and
you can keep texting your thoughts. I see more people
are texting as well to five seven, seven, three nine.
Address them to Dan and I will get them. But
let's go to Rod in Elizabeth, Colorado. Rod, you're on
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the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Welcome.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
How you doing, Christy.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm doing great. We'd love to hear what you think
about Doge and this bill.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
Well, my understanding is with Dose that they couldn't put
in the cuts in this bill because each entity or
however you want to say, actually Congress goes back and
gives them money and that's when they go ahead and
do the cut of it. That they couldn't put anything
about Doze and cutting all this other stuff out in
the big bill. Yeah, why asking a congressman to work
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on that or not?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
But yeah, no, and Rod, I think you might be
onto something. And that's why I'm I'm actually curious they're
going to come back and do a second bill. I
think many times we see the Congress in the Senate
literally pass whatever they want and stuff at all into
the same bill. But Republicans do tend to be a
little more conservative with what they'll jam into one bill
and what they want and try and separate out. So
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I do think that it might be just a practical reason,
Like you just said, I think we should probably give
it a little more time before we, you know, decide
that they absolutely are not doing doge cuts, because sometimes
Republicans do prefer to do it more cleanly.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I think you could be right about that.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Yeah, well, it's interesting that you know, they planned parenthood
in this bill, and maybe they could on some other
way without you know, going in and cut some USA
and that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm not real sure how that.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Works, but just a thought, Chris, No, it's a very
valid thought. Okay, thanks Rod. I appreciate you calling in.
Uh yeah, if anyone.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Else out there has thoughts like odd, call in a
five five four zero five eight two five five. I
think it will take some time to figure this all out.
Whenever there's a huge, big bill, you actually I encourage
people to look at it for yourself. It's probably hard
to read hundreds and hundreds of pages, but most congressmen
don't either, And so when you can read it and
pick apart pieces that really matter, expose things that people
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need to talk about. I think that's important, and I
do think we should give them a little more time
to see if they are going to do the Doge cuts.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's certainly possible.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know, one difference perhaps in doing the Planned Parenthood
defunding right now, but not all the federal agency funding
is technically Planned Parenthood is not a federal agency. They
are funded through Medicaid, And so when you're setting up
the budget and allocating some of it to Medicaid, you
can go ahead and make a Medicaid cut to a
specific entity that's not part of the government. And maybe,
like Rod said, maybe there's something set up where the
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more proper way to actually cut waste in the government
itself is to have a separate bill. Here's what I
where I think our side often falls down though they
don't explain it very well at all, and they would
just want to say, look at all this great stuff
we're doing, knowing that people are all so curious, what's
going to happen about this big thing out here, this waste,
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this fraud, these Doge cuts, And I don't hear a
lot of explanation as to whether or not they're about
to get to them or going to do it in
the next bill. So if that's what they're going to do,
I think our side needs to get a whole lot
better about actually talking to people and explaining it so
there aren't all these questions and legitimate anger from people
who feel like this isn't happening how it should. You're
on the Dan Capla Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You
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can call in over the break eight five five four
zero five eight two five five or texture thoughts to
five seven seven three nine. When we come back, we're
going to talk about Denver's budget crisis. I have a
texture talking about Mayor Mike Johnson and his claims, and
then I have some numbers that will give us the
reality of what Denver's budget actually looks like and the
crisis going on there.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Stay here on the Dan Capela Show.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
We're having a lot of conversations with callers and texters
about the so called big beautiful bill passed on the
budget and then the lack of DOGE cuts in the bill.
People trying to figure out get to the bottom of it.
Why are they not included? So there's a few things
I think we can cover here. I'll get to some
of the texts, and you also can call in if
you have thoughts a five to five four zero five
eight two five five one text. You're saying, according to
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a congressman I heard talking about the bill, you cannot
do doge through reconciliation. And I would suspect, and I'd
never say I would trust this is the case, because
it gets really hard to say, oh, I trust that
government is doing the right thing, even if they agree
with me, Like, that's not somewhere I like to be.
But I do suspect that Republicans like to be cleaner
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in how we do our bills. They like to be
more proper in how they follow the procedure. And so
usually there are ways you're supposed to pass the budget bill,
you're supposed to do cuts, you're supposed.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
To do debt saling moves.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Now at the federal level, can you you have these
huge bills that have tons of pork in them and
a lot of unrelated issues and all these amendments. Absolutely,
they do it all the time, but I think a
lot of us also object would they do that all
the time, and wish that they would follow the proper
procedure and do it the right way. So, if it
is true and there are a congressmen out there claiming
it that you can't actually do the Doge cuts through
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this exact bill because it is specifically a reconciliation bill,
and that you have to do it later. I think
we should watch and see if that's right, See if
they actually do it later. If that's just a convenient
excuse to get people off their backs right now, we
can't do it now and we're just going to kind
of let it die.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
That's not okay.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But if it's real, then this should be the next
bill they bring up, is the Doge cuts, because these
are this is what people have been pushing forward, This
is what people want. I think another thing to pay
attention to is the Senate. You have a number of
the senators out there talking about you know, rand Paul,
Mike Lee, a number of them saying we cannot let
the Doge cuts go away like off our radar. We
cannot just let this pass us by a number of
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the senators out there saying, hey, we're not going to
accept this just in the the House has given it
to us. We're going to put our own Senate pieces
into this bill. And so sometimes, of course, when the
Senate puts their pieces in the bill, it actually becomes
less conservative, less better. We've seen that happen before when
the House has passed a bill that included the defending
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a planned parenthood and the Senate put it right back
in there.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And wouldn't keep that piece.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
So we don't always see the Senate making things better,
but there always is the possibility that they can, and.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
So I think we need to keep an eye on this.
Conservative should really watch this.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Reach out to their congressman and senators as the bill
makes its way through and see are there.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Going to be cuts in there.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
If the Senate puts the cuts in, that means the
House was fully able to do it. So I think
it's very important to see if they do it. But
the Senate doesn't do it either, and we see people
like Senator Mike Lee, Senator Ran Paul, who we know
want these cuts, talk about it as something that we
can do. Later then we'll know that that's what can happen.
There definitely were people from from the federal government who
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are appointed by President Trump out there talking on TV
today saying the OMB is still that's the I actually
forget what that stands. Where I think the Office of
Management and Budgets, I believe, but they're the ones that
often look at waste in government and fraud. There's also
Government Accountability Office GAO, and so they're currently still looking
at things to cut more waste, more fraud, and so
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they're claiming that there will be bills later this year
to address the waste, to the fraud and the cuts
to budgets. And right now they're trying to pass this
bill and then deal with that later as they're still
researching even more than DOJA uncovered.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
So again, I think you never just be like, oh, cool,
that's great. I trust they're going to.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Do exactly what they say, but it is good to
know it's at least the claims they're making. And I
think conservatives cannot afford to be quiet right now and
just say yes, we're going to get on board and
say this bill is wonderful, it's everything we wanted.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It includes a lot of great components that we've wanted
that we've pushed for for a long time. Defunding play parenthood,
increasing the child tax credit, starting universal school choice, reenacting
or I guess, extending the twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts.
There are a lot of good things in this bill.
But it isn't the be all end all. It's not
the end of what we've been pushing for and asking for.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And so I think if.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Conservatives just stand by it, are like, all right, we'll
accept this, it may be all we get. But if
grassroots conservatives continue to be very loud about demanding more
and insisting that we get the Doge cuts, with or
without Elon musk up there in the Trump administration, that's
going to be a very important piece to making sure
this gets done. In my opinion, I'm Christy Burton Brown.
You're on the Dan Kapla show. You can call in
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anytime eight five five four zero five eight two five
five or Texture Thoughts two five seven seven three nine
and start it with Dan.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I'm going to go to Denver.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
We had a texture write in a little while ago,
saying Mayor Mikey is hilarious to claim that downsizing the
number of city employees will help them to be able
to move more quickly.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
That can work, but Denver can't even get the basics right.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Compare trying to get a permit or inspection in Denver
versus other cities and counties. When I replaced a roof
in twenty twenty three. My county took two weeks for inspection.
Very reasonable, my roofer said, Denver was twelve plus weeks
for permits and then another twelve plus weeks for inspections. Yeah,
the Texter continues. Complete lie by Mayor Mikey saying the
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shortfall for Denver in Q one twenty five was caused
by an economic downturn in the national economy. Complete bs
has he looked at real national economic data. Inflation is
down under Trump and economy is better under Trump than Biden.
Denver's revenue is flat because businesses are shutting down or
leaving Denver. Who wants to deal with the crime? Wait
until the Broncos and Elitches leave Denver, which are real
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possibilities that both are about to leave in the very
near future. I think that analysis bire Texture was a
very good one. Here's another piece that I think is
very interesting. When you look at Denver. Yes, the revenue
is flat because businesses are shutting down leaving. Crime is
out of control. All that is extremely true in Denver.
Here's another important point. Denver spent three hundred and fifty
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six million dollars on illegal immigrants. The city has already
cut services to its citizens, and so now its answer
is to put city workers on furlough. There's going to
be a fifty million dollar budget shortfall for the rest
of twenty twenty five and then a two hundred million
dollar budget shortfall for next year. Well, when you spend
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over three hundred and fifty million dollars on illegal immigrants,
prioritizing those people, many of whom are in the city
and the state illegally, you refuse to cooperate with ICE
when we're talking about violent criminals and repeat felons. You
insist on your sanctuary city and state status. A lot
of people are going to leave the city and a
lot of people who stay in the city are going
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to be the ones who are taking money from the city,
not helping the economy to continue. I think it's kind
of common sense that this is exactly what's going to
happen in Denver and continue to happen. I don't think
Mayor Mike Johnson has a plan to deal with a
fifty million and then next year two hundred million dollar
shortfall in Denver. You know, it's it's sort of the
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chickens coming home to roost that you get when this
is how you decide to spend money and you don't
focus on the actual inhabitants of your city, and instead
you focus on, honestly people who are transient in nature.
The immigrants come and they go, homeless population too. Do
you know how much money Denver has spent on the
homeless population that also are not helping the economy in
the city at all. So you cannot as a city
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invest all of your money into populations that do nothing
for your economy and do nothing for your revenue, and
then somehow expect the people who can benefit your economy
and your revenue are just going to sit there and
stay while services are caught off to them, while city
workers are furloughed, put on leave, fired, let go. This
just is not a formula for success. So I think
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I think that's very clear when we look at Denver
and it seems to just continue to spiral into.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Disaster after disaster. But they're they're predictable.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
If you know anything about numbers, you know anything about
the economy, you know anything about policy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
And it's just the motivations of people.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You could look at what Denver is doing, and you
could have looked years ago and said, if you continue
on this trajectory, it is not going to succeed. It
is continue going to continue to fail. And what is
most people's response going to be. It's going to be
to leave, to leave a city that is not working
for them, that is not spending money on the services
and things they need, that is not stopping crime, and
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that is just letting things spiral out of control. So
that's the situation in Denver, uh not looking great. I'm
Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. Call
in with your thoughts eight five five four zero five
A two five five or text your thoughts to five
seven seven three nine start it with Dan. When we
come back, we're going to talk about the deputy superintendent
of Cherry Creek Schools admitting what they hide from parents
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when it comes to gender transition of children.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast and for.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Dan today, as in Trial, I want to share with
you a clip of Jennifer Perry. She is the deputy
superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools. You've probably never heard her
name before, but that's.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Who she is.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
She is admitting what the school does to hide children's
gender transition from parents deeply concerning I think you got
to hear it.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
And why do you have gender specific plans if you're
not supporting that child?
Speaker 9 (28:22):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (28:23):
So the plans that the district has when a student
goes to a teacher and shares that they want to
be a different name and go by different pronouns and
use a different bathroom, where there's the gender specific plan
that's actually documented within the district, so that there's documentation
that the staff will be calling this child by their
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their intended pronouns. So with these plans, doesn't thatcho opposite
to what you just said?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No, okay, sow because the kid has rights to.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
And then when their teachers are telling them that one
student is now a different gender and they're going to
go by different pronouns, and then that isn't communicated to
the parents at home, and then you know, for example,
my daughter says, well, I don't know what to do
when I see him in public because they told us
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that his parents don't know, and so I don't know
if I have to call him a hymn or her.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
And I'm like, well, do you.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
Feel like you have to lie? And she's like, yeah,
so they're teaching my kids that she has to lie
in the community.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, a parent very concerned about what's going on in
Cherry Creek asking the deputy superintendent what their policy is,
and their policy basically is kids have rights too, so
they can decide whatever they want, whether parents know or not,
that's not our concern. Super Troubly, if you are a parent, Ryan,
I know I'm not a parent yet, but I am
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an uncle, and I've been a coach, and I've been
a teacher, and I might be a parent.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
This would make me so angry.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh yeah, because just apply it to anything else. Let's
take gender identity out of the equation. Sure, whatever with
these administrators, teachers, faculty members, school board, superintendent be.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Saying, you know, kid has rights too.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Kid can smoke, can get a tattoo, kid can drink,
can can do whatever the kid wants. Kids have rights
that are on the same level as parents.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That's that's insane, well and above parents honestly, because they're
basically acting parents out of the equation and saying, well,
we're going to prefer to just do whatever your child wants,
and we're not going to even let you know that
We're doing it like they're not even necessarily saying, hey,
are you going to ask parents or permission?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They're just saying, like, are you to involve the parents
at all? And their answer is no, because kids have rights.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
So it's literally elevating a child's rights and purposely taking parents.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Well, and we know Christy, you and I know Kelly knows,
our listeners know this isn't about the kids. This isn't
it for their welfare, their will being what's best for them. This,
in my view, is about power and control what Yao said,
forcing the parents out and getting to indoctrinate the kids
the way that they would like to see them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I think one of the things that troubles me
the most that I do serve on the state Board
of Education in CD four and part of the Cherry
Creek School District.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Is in my district.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
It is one of the most troubling districts in the
state to me, because they have a pattern over years
of disregarding parents on a number of issues. And it's
not just gender ideologies. This is just the latest one
that's popped up. But one of the middle schools that
was close to a church I went in to in
in Cherry Creek School district. They actually were sued by parents.
This was pretty recent for having So they had this
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sex ed curriculum.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
That they were trying to teach to students.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
They had it behind a portal and there was like
porn on the portal or what you would definitely would
definitely be classified as porn was on this portal to
teach sex ad to kids. So a parent logged into
the portal using their child's username and passwords because they
just wanted to see what their kid was learning. They
were horrified by what they saw. They went to the
school they said, what in the world are you teaching
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my kid. The school's response was, you weren't supposed to
be in the portal. That wasn't your access. That was
for your kid, not for you. And so the same
sex sided program was actually taught by multiple districts in
the state. One of them, when parents complained, they actually
took it down, ended the course taught it a different way.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Cherry Creek was one of I believe three.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It was either two or three school districts that had
to be sued before they took it down.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I can only wish upon them the hell fire in
Brimstone and fury that my mother, may she rest in
peace to Shanka, would have.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Rained down upon them. I pad voicing that, saying, oh,
that wasn't for you.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
That.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah, I'm just sitting there. The gen X are going
there's no way in hell. There's no way in hell
my mom would let that happen. And then Christopher Smith,
he's the superintendent there, he was speaking up.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He was practically in tears, and he was very.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Emotional about potential ICE deportations. Oh yes, alien, and he
made a vow that they were not going to cooperate
with Ice. And then he said something that was even
more chilling and concerning to me. And it goes along
the lines of what you're saying, We're a Cherry Creek family. Oh, yeah,
we're a fit.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh you're not. You're not a family your school.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I know.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I'm my family. My kids are my family. Yes, they're
not your family. You're not their family.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Well, and I was talking to a legislator the other
day because the session just ended a couple of weeks ago,
and so I've been catching up with some of them,
like what went on during the session, And they were
saying one of the most troubling comments they constantly heard
on the floor from the Progressives that the legislature was
They kept calling the kids around the state our kid
kids yep, Like as these belonged to the government. It's like,
that's not an inclusive thing to say. Oh, it's markets
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controlling thing to.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Say, very Marxist thing to say as well.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
It isn't. It's super disturbing as a parent and I
have two kids myself.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And for the government to start thinking like, oh, these
are our kids, like we co own them with you, Like,
no one owns my kids, not me, not anyone. But
it is like the parents responsibility.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
To be in charge of those children.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
It is absolutely not the government's responsibility. And Supreme Court
precedent after President has clearly established this.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Children do not belong to the government in America. They
are the right.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
It is the right of parents to be responsible for
their children and you know, of course, barring any abuse.
But that's not one of these people are talking about.
They're not talking about abuse situations. They're talking about whose
ideology should be taught to these children, Like who gets
to claim these children?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Who gets to decide what rights?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You know that children get to exercise, and we're not
talking about basic like constitutional right to life. We're not
talking about those kind of things. In fact, they'd love
to deny those to children, and they do deny those
to children. This is just like, hey, can you pick
you know which dress code you get to follow at
your school.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
They want to let kids decide that, not parents.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
She was our starting Friday Fool of the Week on
my local program in Denver, Ryan Schuling Live. And I'm
trying to remember her name. Maybe you will and I'll
find it during the break. I will find this sound
you're gonna want it.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
She was making the case in the Colorado General Assembly
that we should take precedent from all the old monarchy
of engn and that kids were wards of the state
and the king, and that parental rights were put aside. Yeah,
prior to the American Revolution. Yeah, and we overthrew that monarch.
There's a reason where America a monarchy.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
They don't care well in Cherry Creek School is also
horrible job with reporting sexual assaults that happened on campus
and in the parking lot. I'm shock it didn't even
report it to parents. It was a few years back,
so tons of problems in that district. I would suggest
moving your child if they're in that district. I'm Christy
Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kaplas show, calling over
the break if you have thoughts eight five five four
zero five eight two five five or text five seven
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seven three nine. I'm sure Ryan will have that sound
for us when we come back about the colonial legislator
who thinks that your kids should belong to the government.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show.
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
The two thoughts there. Number one, we're going to pass
the bill. We've got to pass the bill, because here's
the alternative. Americans are facing the largest tax increase in history.
If we don't pass this, the average Colorado family of four,
we'll see their federal taxes go up by over two
thousand dollars if we don't extend the Trump Tax cuts
and Jobs APPS. And that, by the way, that affects
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the bottom eighty four percent of people of wage earners
in Colorado. We're extending the standard deduction, so millionaire's itemize,
we're not doing anything with that. We're extending the standard deduction,
which impacts the bottom eighty four percent of wage jarners.
For the average family of four in Colorado, that reduces
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their federal tax burden by over two two thousand dollars.
We're making sure that small businesses have a level playing
field with the big corporations by making sure that their
tax rate doesn't double. We're protecting again those working families
by making sure that the child tax credit, which is
currently at two thousand dollars, doesn't get cut in half
down to one thousand dollars. So that's why I'm confident
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that we're going to get this piece of legislation passed.
And you know, anything that's worth doing is quite often
difficult in doing so we're continuing to negotiate and fine
tune the details and make sure that this is the
absolute best product that it can be. But at the
end of the day, we're going to get it across
the finish line.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
That was Congressman Gave Evans talking about the passage of
what's known as the Big Beautiful Bill in the House today,
the budget bill pushed by President Trump and Speaker Mike
Johnston and the Republicans in the House, getting it across
the finish line. I'm christopheron Brown. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show. This is one of multiple issues we're going
to talk about today, as the news went a little
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crazy with all the stories, especially on the national level.
But there's, of course, as usual, a divergence of thought
among Republicans on this big, beautiful bill. Is it really
everything gets cracked up to be?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Is it good.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
For the average working family? I think there's no question
the answer to that is yes. But we're going to
go through some different opinions. As you might imagine. Representative
Thomas Massey is on a different side, thinking that it
actually sets up a debt bomb because it doesn't solve
some of the issues he thinks it needs to solve.
You have a congressman across the nation, like Representative Gabe
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Evans from Colorado's CDA, one of the working class districts
in our state, congressman in similar districts across the nation
saying this is exactly what we need to do to
get working families the money they need back in their pockets.
Extend the twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts that were set
to expire, and just do some basic, good tax cuts
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that Republicans used to do all the time, and it's
about time to make them permanent and do them again.
Other objections, though probably the biggest one rising up is
what happened to all the Doge cuts? Where did those go?
Who wanted those gone? Because Democrats are in the minority
in the House, and the Senate. And so that is
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a big question popping up from conservative circles yesterday and
today is when Republicans are in charge, when we hold
power in the House, the Senate, and the presidency.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Why was that on the chopping lock? What happened to
those cuts?
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think that's a big question that's going to have
to get answered at some point. Although President Trump pushing
very hard for everyone to finish passing and celebrate the
one big, beautiful bill, as he says in all caps
on his Twitter account, I do think it's worth it
to go through a few pieces of this bill that
will matter to a lot of working families and just
average people across America. It does reinstate and I just
(03:54):
continue the Trump twenty seventeen tax cuts that were set
to expire. It also would it act no tax on
tips policy, no tax on overtime tax deductions when you
purchase an American made vehicle.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Some strong border security measures are in it. There's also
pay raises for ice and border patrol agents. He also
claims to be implementing a Trump savings accounts for newborn babies.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I do not know what that one is. That's what
I would have to look up. There's a lot in
this bill. It is big, indeed. But Ryan Anderson, a
respected conservative who I think he used to work for
Heritage Foundation. Not exactly sure where he is right now,
but a scholar is spoken across the nation at conservative conferences,
cannot accuse him of not being conservative. And he says
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the one big, beautiful bill isn't perfect, but it does
some very good things.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Here are the ones that he names.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
A lot of these are going to be very important
to conservatives. It defunds planned parenthood, and not just the
abortion side of planned parenthood, which of course a lot
of people would say, oh, the government wasn't actually paying
for abortions through planned parenthood. That actual depends on what
funding you're looking at. But what a fact that no
one disputes is is that there's over five hundred million
dollars in federal money. So federal tax payer dollars going
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to planned parenthood for whatever plan para. Who wants to
claim it's for birth control, STD testing screenings, all these
other things. But if you know anything about money, you
know it's fungible. So when the federal government is putting
over five hundred million dollars into the nation's leading abortion giants. Obviously,
that's going to help them continue that business. And so
that is one thing Ryan Anderson points out that this
bill would do is completely defund play in parenthood, take
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them out of all medicaid funding.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
He says that also defunds all.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
These are his words, sex rejecting transition procedures. So basically
the government won't be funding a gender ideology surgeries either anymore.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It increases the child tax credit.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Congressman Gave Evans mentioned that in his clip that we
played right at the beginning of the show. That's good
news to families and to people maybe having more kids.
You will have an increase in the child tax credit.
And again I think everyone knows this, but this has
also got to pass the Senate. Often the Senate will
scale back some of the big changes that happen in
the House on budget bills. For example, the House has
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passed the defunding of planned parenthood before, and then it
just could quite get through the Senate. So we'll see
what happens when this goes to the Senate. But sense
Republicans are in control of the Senate and the presidency,
we should see big movement on.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Most if not all of these issues.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Another big thing that conservatis are talking about, the Ryan
Anderson mentions, is that it creates a new school choice
tax credit that sets the stage for universal school choice.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Now talking to some of.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
My friends who work in the school choice space about
this and the bill, and it's not necessarily everything everyone
is hoping for.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Basically, it's not a voucher.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
It's not a tax credit that if you send your
kid to a private school or you homeschool them, you're
going to get all that paid for by the government
through an ESSA. It's actually not that, But instead it
actually sets up a way for corporations to give money
that will go.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
To private school It's round about way of doing it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Actually take a long time to explain all the complications
of it, but I grew with Ryan Anderson that it
sets the stage for universal school choice. It's almost like
one of those first steps on the way towards making
sure that funding follows the student, not the system, and
that people aren't excluded from having their child's education paid
for just because they want to put their child into
religious school, or just because they want to pull their
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child out of a failing school and homeschool them. Right now,
kids like that they don't get their education paid for
by the government while all other children do. Like you
want to put your kid in a failing neighborhood school,
it's going to get fully covered. You want to put
your kid in a successful private school down the road,
it's going to have to come out of your pocket.
So embedded into this big, beautiful bill is the beginnings
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of universal school choice on the federal level. There's a
lot of states across the nation that have enacted it,
but this is a step I think in a really
good direction for the federal government. Again, not everything.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
People would want, and I think that's what we.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
See in any bill like this that is wide ranging
that covers something as big as budget. You could pick
apart any piece of it and say, I don't think
that should exist. I think this should be better. That's
going to cause debt, that's not a big enough cut.
What are they thinking over there? And many of those
concerns are gonna be very very valid. But you're going
to have conservatives, moderate, you know, even some liberals across
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the spectrum.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
And the real question.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is is this as a whole a good policy. Is
it moving our country in the right direction in many
different ways. I think the answer to that is clearly yes.
Whether or not you think the doged cuts should also
be part of it should also.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Be on the table, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And whether or not you'd like to see other changes
or bigger tax cuts or anything like that, those are
all debatable and interesting issues. But I think it is
clear that this bill is good. Whether or not it
could be better is of course a question that we
can always ask about any bill.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
But it is good.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
We're going to continue to talk about it, and I
will also play you the opposite side from Representative Thomas
Massey and his how he like shreds the bill to pieces,
basically in his statement, So we'll play that when we
come back from the break. If you have thoughts on
the past of this bill, what should be in it,
what shouldn't be in it? Why was Doge left behind?
You can call in eight five five four zero five
eight two five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown, or you
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can text your thoughts to Dan at five seven seven
three nine.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
People in the modern world think the song that Ryan
is just playing for us right now is very creepy.
When it comes to a romantic relationships. But here's where
I think it's perfect. When you talk about the government.
This is exactly how people should be thinking of the government.
And I'm pretty sure that's all Ryan was thinking too.
When you are looking at this so called big beautiful
bill that the Trump administration and Congress work together to pass,
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we should be holding them accountable to make sure it
has what it needs to have in it, whether it's
you know, administration that we largely agree with, or whether
it's the progressive liberals in Denver that we largely do.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Not agree with.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
In any case, I'm a fan of holding government accountable,
citizens getting involved and never just being like, oh, well,
I think I mostly agree.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
With that guy, so whatever he does is probably fine.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
No, you actually don't know if it is unless you
personally look into it, or if someone close to you
that you trust.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Look into it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
So I'm a big advocate for that. Thank you for
reminding us of that with that song, Ryan, that we
can recategorize as a political song.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I can, and it's actually dovetailing off of one of
the texts we got because I feel this person's pain
and frustration. Hey, Christy, I'm so angry that yet again
we kick the can down the road and aren't cutting
things right now. How much more can we the people
bleed out before we die?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
And I feel like this texture should send this to
Trump because they use capital letters similar to how Trump
uses that. So well done, whoever you are texting in
And actually I wanted to get to this text too,
so Ryan, thanks for reading it. And I think this
is the sentiment of a lot of people right now.
It's like and I think there's two different things about
this bill. This text are saying we aren't cutting anything
right now. So we're not cutting anything in government right now.
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That's absolutely right with the Doge cuts. Like I said,
on the chopping block, I don't know who did that,
and I think that's really important to figure out whose
call was that. Why did that go on the chopping
block With a Republican conservative controlled administration, House and Senate,
that isn't the right answer.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
I think.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
On the other side of the issue is cutting taxes.
This bill is cutting taxes, and I think those are
two different issues when you say and two different things
that we should be cutting. We should be cutting government spending,
we should be cutting down the debt, and we also
should be cutting people's taxes. Basically, I need to take
an ax to all of it when it comes to
any budgetary issue right now at the federal level.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
And so I think you know, that.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Is one thing that when you have complete power and
you don't to give people what they've been demanding, what
they think you elected for, that is a huge problem.
And it's often how people don't get re elected. It's
often sort of the blowbok blowback that happens in midterms,
like against sometimes Republicans right now they're coming up for
reelection twenty twenty six. If voters continue to have this
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sentiment like, hey, I voted for you. I put you
in office because you promised to.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
Cut waste, to cut fraud, to work with Doge and
do all these things.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And now when you had the chance the two years
of all this power and you didn't do it, how
can I trust you? And then we usually do is
those people don't go vote for Democrats.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
They just don't vote.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
And of course I am not suggesting that I think
that is a very bad thing to do. I think
you always have to vote for the best option that
you have, even if it isn't a perfect option, and
then you need to work to hold them accountable. And
I think for the problem too is we have seen
so many years in government where people have wanted so
much change, Like the change that we need is giant.
And so when you see the Trump administration come in,
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you see the Congress working right now, and they are
doing some changes that.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
People have asked for, but they're not doing all of it.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And I feel like that's sort of the push and
pull is like, Okay, we are getting something, but we're
not getting everything. And we've waited so long to get
all of these things. When is it actually going to happen?
It will it ever happen? So I think the sentiment
from our texture here is very, very valid. I'm going
to go ahead and play a clip from Representative Thomas Massey.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
He is I's reading the big beautiful Bill. Let's listen in.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Under the taxing and spending levels in this bill, we're
going to rack up the author say, twenty trillion dollars
of new debt over the next ten years. I'm telling
you it's closer to thirty trillion dollars of new debt
in the next ten years.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Mister Speaker.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
We're not rearranging debt chairs on the Titanic tonight. We're
putting coal into boiler and set in a course for
the iceberg. If something is.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
If something is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
If something is beautiful, you don't do it after midnight.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I pose this bill I've expired.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, something is beautiful, you don't do it after midnight.
That's that is an interesting quote. But so that was
Representative Thomas Matthew talking about the debt that he thinks
this bill is creating. And I want to say he
thinks it because he has a different calculation than the
official calculation. I have not personally calculated it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Who's right, but both say that this will create more debt,
which is what a lot of people have said, we
don't need any more of in at the federal level.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Mike Lee, who's another one.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
I like to actually honestly prefer how he explains things
to Representative Massey and just a personal preference. I've heard
Senator Lee talk in person. I think he explains things really,
really well. But he says this could be the death
of the GOP if we don't enact the DOGE cuts.
The federal debt will swallow us whole without even bothering
to chew. I think that that is a very good
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line from Senator Lee. He definitely looks into everything himself
personally examines it, and has talked for a very long
time about cutting the national debt. And so here is
I think the problem. Instead of taking everything and dealing
with all of it, which I think you should do
when you have both houses and the presidency, we see
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everyone you know up there in DC claiming a victory
by re enacting tax cuts, expanding the child tax credit,
defunding Plan Parent, and all things we have to do.
But leaving the debt alone and not doing the DOGE cuts.
I think that is going to make a lot of
people if they don't come back and say, Okay, now
we had to split them up for whatever reason, but
now the next thing we're going to do is cut
the waste the front of the debt. So I'm gonna
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go ahead and take a caller in just a second.
You also can call in eight five five four zero
five eight two five five if you have thoughts about
this bill, about the debt, about the DOGE cuts, and
you can keep texting your thoughts. I see more people
are texting as well to five seven, seven, three nine.
Address them to Dan and I will get them. But
let's go to Rod in Elizabeth, Colorado. Rod, you're on
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the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Welcome.
Speaker 9 (15:32):
How you doing, Christy.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
I'm doing great. We'd love to hear what you think
about Doge and this bill.
Speaker 9 (15:38):
Well, my understanding is with Dose that they couldn't put
in the cuts in this bill because each entity or
however you want to say, actually Congress goes back and
gives them money and that's when they go ahead and
do the cut of it. That they couldn't put anything
about Doze and cutting all this other stuff out in
the big bill. Yeah, why asking a congressman to work
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on that or not?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
But yeah, no, and Rod, I think you might be
onto something. And that's why I'm I'm actually curious they're
going to come back and do a second bill. I
think many times we see the Congress in the Senate
literally pass whatever they want and stuff at all into
the same bill. But Republicans do tend to be a
little more conservative with what they'll jam into one bill
and what they want and try and separate out. So
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I do think that it might be just a practical reason,
Like you just said, I think we should probably give
it a little more time before we, you know, decide
that they absolutely are not doing doge cuts, because sometimes
Republicans do prefer to do it more cleanly.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I think you could be right about that.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Yeah, well, it's interesting that you know, they planned parenthood
in this bill, and maybe they could on some other
way without you know, going in and cut some USA
and that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I'm not real sure how that.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Works, but just a thought, Chris, No, it's a very
valid thought. Okay, thanks Rod. I appreciate you calling in.
Uh yeah, if anyone.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Else out there has thoughts like odd, call in a
five five four zero five eight two five five. I
think it will take some time to figure this all out.
Whenever there's a huge, big bill, you actually I encourage
people to look at it for yourself. It's probably hard
to read hundreds and hundreds of pages, but most congressmen
don't either, And so when you can read it and
pick apart pieces that really matter, expose things that people
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need to talk about. I think that's important, and I
do think we should give them a little more time
to see if they are going to do the Doge cuts.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
It's certainly possible.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You know, one difference perhaps in doing the Planned Parenthood
defunding right now, but not all the federal agency funding
is technically Planned Parenthood is not a federal agency. They
are funded through Medicaid, And so when you're setting up
the budget and allocating some of it to Medicaid, you
can go ahead and make a Medicaid cut to a
specific entity that's not part of the government. And maybe,
like Rod said, maybe there's something set up where the
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more proper way to actually cut waste in the government
itself is to have a separate bill. Here's what I
where I think our side often falls down though they
don't explain it very well at all, and they would
just want to say, look at all this great stuff
we're doing, knowing that people are all so curious, what's
going to happen about this big thing out here, this waste,
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this fraud, these Doge cuts, And I don't hear a
lot of explanation as to whether or not they're about
to get to them or going to do it in
the next bill. So if that's what they're going to do,
I think our side needs to get a whole lot
better about actually talking to people and explaining it so
there aren't all these questions and legitimate anger from people
who feel like this isn't happening how it should. You're
on the Dan Capla Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You
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can call in over the break eight five five four
zero five eight two five five or texture thoughts to
five seven seven three nine. When we come back, we're
going to talk about Denver's budget crisis. I have a
texture talking about Mayor Mike Johnson and his claims, and
then I have some numbers that will give us the
reality of what Denver's budget actually looks like and the
crisis going on there.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Stay here on the Dan Capela Show.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
We're having a lot of conversations with callers and texters
about the so called big beautiful bill passed on the
budget and then the lack of DOGE cuts in the bill.
People trying to figure out get to the bottom of it.
Why are they not included? So there's a few things
I think we can cover here. I'll get to some
of the texts, and you also can call in if
you have thoughts a five to five four zero five
eight two five five one text. You're saying, according to
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a congressman I heard talking about the bill, you cannot
do doge through reconciliation. And I would suspect, and I'd
never say I would trust this is the case, because
it gets really hard to say, oh, I trust that
government is doing the right thing, even if they agree
with me, Like, that's not somewhere I like to be.
But I do suspect that Republicans like to be cleaner
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in how we do our bills. They like to be
more proper in how they follow the procedure. And so
usually there are ways you're supposed to pass the budget bill,
you're supposed to do cuts, you're supposed.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
To do debt saling moves.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Now at the federal level, can you you have these
huge bills that have tons of pork in them and
a lot of unrelated issues and all these amendments. Absolutely,
they do it all the time, but I think a
lot of us also object would they do that all
the time, and wish that they would follow the proper
procedure and do it the right way. So, if it
is true and there are a congressmen out there claiming
it that you can't actually do the Doge cuts through
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this exact bill because it is specifically a reconciliation bill,
and that you have to do it later. I think
we should watch and see if that's right, See if
they actually do it later. If that's just a convenient
excuse to get people off their backs right now, we
can't do it now and we're just going to kind
of let it die.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
That's not okay.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
But if it's real, then this should be the next
bill they bring up, is the Doge cuts, because these
are this is what people have been pushing forward, This
is what people want. I think another thing to pay
attention to is the Senate. You have a number of
the senators out there talking about you know, rand Paul,
Mike Lee, a number of them saying we cannot let
the Doge cuts go away like off our radar. We
cannot just let this pass us by a number of
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the senators out there saying, hey, we're not going to
accept this just in the the House has given it
to us. We're going to put our own Senate pieces
into this bill. And so sometimes, of course, when the
Senate puts their pieces in the bill, it actually becomes
less conservative, less better. We've seen that happen before when
the House has passed a bill that included the defending
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a planned parenthood and the Senate put it right back
in there.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
And wouldn't keep that piece.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
So we don't always see the Senate making things better,
but there always is the possibility that they can, and.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
So I think we need to keep an eye on this.
Conservative should really watch this.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Reach out to their congressman and senators as the bill
makes its way through and see are there.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Going to be cuts in there.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
If the Senate puts the cuts in, that means the
House was fully able to do it. So I think
it's very important to see if they do it. But
the Senate doesn't do it either, and we see people
like Senator Mike Lee, Senator Ran Paul, who we know
want these cuts, talk about it as something that we
can do. Later then we'll know that that's what can happen.
There definitely were people from from the federal government who
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are appointed by President Trump out there talking on TV
today saying the OMB is still that's the I actually
forget what that stands. Where I think the Office of
Management and Budgets, I believe, but they're the ones that
often look at waste in government and fraud. There's also
Government Accountability Office GAO, and so they're currently still looking
at things to cut more waste, more fraud, and so
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they're claiming that there will be bills later this year
to address the waste, to the fraud and the cuts
to budgets. And right now they're trying to pass this
bill and then deal with that later as they're still
researching even more than DOJA uncovered.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
So again, I think you never just be like, oh, cool,
that's great. I trust they're going to.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Do exactly what they say, but it is good to
know it's at least the claims they're making. And I
think conservatives cannot afford to be quiet right now and
just say yes, we're going to get on board and
say this bill is wonderful, it's everything we wanted.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It includes a lot of great components that we've wanted
that we've pushed for for a long time. Defunding play parenthood,
increasing the child tax credit, starting universal school choice, reenacting
or I guess, extending the twenty seventeen Trump tax cuts.
There are a lot of good things in this bill.
But it isn't the be all end all. It's not
the end of what we've been pushing for and asking for.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And so I think if.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Conservatives just stand by it, are like, all right, we'll
accept this, it may be all we get. But if
grassroots conservatives continue to be very loud about demanding more
and insisting that we get the Doge cuts, with or
without Elon musk up there in the Trump administration, that's
going to be a very important piece to making sure
this gets done. In my opinion, I'm Christy Burton Brown.
You're on the Dan Kapla show. You can call in
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anytime eight five five four zero five eight two five
five or Texture Thoughts two five seven seven three nine
and start it with Dan.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I'm going to go to Denver.
Speaker 10 (23:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
We had a texture write in a little while ago,
saying Mayor Mikey is hilarious to claim that downsizing the
number of city employees will help them to be able
to move more quickly.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
That can work, but Denver can't even get the basics right.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Compare trying to get a permit or inspection in Denver
versus other cities and counties. When I replaced a roof
in twenty twenty three. My county took two weeks for inspection.
Very reasonable, my roofer said, Denver was twelve plus weeks
for permits and then another twelve plus weeks for inspections. Yeah,
the Texter continues. Complete lie by Mayor Mikey saying the
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shortfall for Denver in Q one twenty five was caused
by an economic downturn in the national economy. Complete bs
has he looked at real national economic data. Inflation is
down under Trump and economy is better under Trump than Biden.
Denver's revenue is flat because businesses are shutting down or
leaving Denver. Who wants to deal with the crime? Wait
until the Broncos and Elitches leave Denver, which are real
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possibilities that both are about to leave in the very
near future. I think that analysis bire Texture was a
very good one. Here's another piece that I think is
very interesting. When you look at Denver. Yes, the revenue
is flat because businesses are shutting down leaving. Crime is
out of control. All that is extremely true in Denver.
Here's another important point. Denver spent three hundred and fifty
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six million dollars on illegal immigrants. The city has already
cut services to its citizens, and so now its answer
is to put city workers on furlough. There's going to
be a fifty million dollar budget shortfall for the rest
of twenty twenty five and then a two hundred million
dollar budget shortfall for next year. Well, when you spend
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over three hundred and fifty million dollars on illegal immigrants,
prioritizing those people, many of whom are in the city
and the state illegally, you refuse to cooperate with ICE
when we're talking about violent criminals and repeat felons. You
insist on your sanctuary city and state status. A lot
of people are going to leave the city and a
lot of people who stay in the city are going
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to be the ones who are taking money from the city,
not helping the economy to continue. I think it's kind
of common sense that this is exactly what's going to
happen in Denver and continue to happen. I don't think
Mayor Mike Johnson has a plan to deal with a
fifty million and then next year two hundred million dollar
shortfall in Denver. You know, it's it's sort of the
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chickens coming home to roost that you get when this
is how you decide to spend money and you don't
focus on the actual inhabitants of your city, and instead
you focus on, honestly people who are transient in nature.
The immigrants come and they go, homeless population too. Do
you know how much money Denver has spent on the
homeless population that also are not helping the economy in
the city at all. So you cannot as a city
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invest all of your money into populations that do nothing
for your economy and do nothing for your revenue, and
then somehow expect the people who can benefit your economy
and your revenue are just going to sit there and
stay while services are caught off to them, while city
workers are furloughed, put on leave, fired, let go. This
just is not a formula for success. So I think
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I think that's very clear when we look at Denver
and it seems to just continue to spiral into.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Disaster after disaster. But they're they're predictable.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
If you know anything about numbers, you know anything about
the economy, you know anything about policy.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
And it's just the motivations of people.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You could look at what Denver is doing, and you
could have looked years ago and said, if you continue
on this trajectory, it is not going to succeed. It
is continue going to continue to fail. And what is
most people's response going to be. It's going to be
to leave, to leave a city that is not working
for them, that is not spending money on the services
and things they need, that is not stopping crime, and
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that is just letting things spiral out of control. So
that's the situation in Denver, uh not looking great. I'm
Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. Call
in with your thoughts eight five five four zero five
A two five five or text your thoughts to five
seven seven three nine start it with Dan. When we
come back, we're going to talk about the deputy superintendent
of Cherry Creek Schools admitting what they hide from parents
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when it comes to gender transition of children.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
And now back to the Dan Kapler Show podcast and for.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Dan today, as in Trial, I want to share with
you a clip of Jennifer Perry. She is the deputy
superintendent of Cherry Creek Schools. You've probably never heard her
name before, but that's.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Who she is.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
She is admitting what the school does to hide children's
gender transition from parents deeply concerning I think you got
to hear it.
Speaker 10 (28:18):
And why do you have gender specific plans if you're
not supporting that child?
Speaker 9 (28:22):
What do you mean?
Speaker 10 (28:23):
So the plans that the district has when a student
goes to a teacher and shares that they want to
be a different name and go by different pronouns and
use a different bathroom, where there's the gender specific plan
that's actually documented within the district, so that there's documentation
that the staff will be calling this child by their
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their intended pronouns. So with these plans, doesn't thatcho opposite
to what you just said?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
No, okay, sow because the kid has rights to.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
And then when their teachers are telling them that one
student is now a different gender and they're going to
go by different pronouns, and then that isn't communicated to
the parents at home, and then you know, for example,
my daughter says, well, I don't know what to do
when I see him in public because they told us
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that his parents don't know, and so I don't know
if I have to call him a hymn or her.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
And I'm like, well, do you.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
Feel like you have to lie? And she's like, yeah,
so they're teaching my kids that she has to lie
in the community.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, a parent very concerned about what's going on in
Cherry Creek asking the deputy superintendent what their policy is,
and their policy basically is kids have rights too, so
they can decide whatever they want, whether parents know or not,
that's not our concern. Super Troubly, if you are a parent, Ryan,
I know I'm not a parent yet, but I am
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an uncle, and I've been a coach, and I've been
a teacher, and I might be a parent.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
This would make me so angry.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Oh yeah, because just apply it to anything else. Let's
take gender identity out of the equation. Sure, whatever with
these administrators, teachers, faculty members, school board, superintendent be.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Saying, you know, kid has rights too.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Kid can smoke, can get a tattoo, kid can drink,
can can do whatever the kid wants. Kids have rights
that are on the same level as parents.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That's that's insane, well and above parents honestly, because they're
basically acting parents out of the equation and saying, well,
we're going to prefer to just do whatever your child wants,
and we're not going to even let you know that
We're doing it like they're not even necessarily saying, hey,
are you going to ask parents or permission?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They're just saying, like, are you to involve the parents
at all? And their answer is no, because kids have rights.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
So it's literally elevating a child's rights and purposely taking parents.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
Well, and we know Christy, you and I know Kelly knows,
our listeners know this isn't about the kids. This isn't
it for their welfare, their will being what's best for them. This,
in my view, is about power and control what Yao said,
forcing the parents out and getting to indoctrinate the kids
the way that they would like to see them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
And I think one of the things that troubles me
the most that I do serve on the state Board
of Education in CD four and part of the Cherry
Creek School District.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Is in my district.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
It is one of the most troubling districts in the
state to me, because they have a pattern over years
of disregarding parents on a number of issues. And it's
not just gender ideologies. This is just the latest one
that's popped up. But one of the middle schools that
was close to a church I went in to in
in Cherry Creek School district. They actually were sued by parents.
This was pretty recent for having So they had this
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sex ed curriculum.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
That they were trying to teach to students.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
They had it behind a portal and there was like
porn on the portal or what you would definitely would
definitely be classified as porn was on this portal to
teach sex ad to kids. So a parent logged into
the portal using their child's username and passwords because they
just wanted to see what their kid was learning. They
were horrified by what they saw. They went to the
school they said, what in the world are you teaching
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my kid. The school's response was, you weren't supposed to
be in the portal. That wasn't your access. That was
for your kid, not for you. And so the same
sex sided program was actually taught by multiple districts in
the state. One of them, when parents complained, they actually
took it down, ended the course taught it a different way.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Cherry Creek was one of I believe three.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
It was either two or three school districts that had
to be sued before they took it down.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
I can only wish upon them the hell fire in
Brimstone and fury that my mother, may she rest in
peace to Shanka, would have.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Rained down upon them. I pad voicing that, saying, oh,
that wasn't for you.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
That.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yeah, I'm just sitting there. The gen X are going
there's no way in hell. There's no way in hell
my mom would let that happen. And then Christopher Smith,
he's the superintendent there, he was speaking up.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
He was practically in tears, and he was very.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Emotional about potential ICE deportations. Oh yes, alien, and he
made a vow that they were not going to cooperate
with Ice. And then he said something that was even
more chilling and concerning to me. And it goes along
the lines of what you're saying, We're a Cherry Creek family. Oh, yeah,
we're a fit.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh you're not. You're not a family your school.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I know.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I'm my family. My kids are my family. Yes, they're
not your family. You're not their family.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Well, and I was talking to a legislator the other
day because the session just ended a couple of weeks ago,
and so I've been catching up with some of them,
like what went on during the session, And they were
saying one of the most troubling comments they constantly heard
on the floor from the Progressives that the legislature was
They kept calling the kids around the state our kid
kids yep, Like as these belonged to the government. It's like,
that's not an inclusive thing to say. Oh, it's markets
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controlling thing to.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Say, very Marxist thing to say as well.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
It isn't. It's super disturbing as a parent and I
have two kids myself.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
And for the government to start thinking like, oh, these
are our kids, like we co own them with you, Like,
no one owns my kids, not me, not anyone. But
it is like the parents responsibility.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
To be in charge of those children.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
It is absolutely not the government's responsibility. And Supreme Court
precedent after President has clearly established this.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Children do not belong to the government in America. They
are the right.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
It is the right of parents to be responsible for
their children and you know, of course, barring any abuse.
But that's not one of these people are talking about.
They're not talking about abuse situations. They're talking about whose
ideology should be taught to these children, Like who gets
to claim these children?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Who gets to decide what rights?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
You know that children get to exercise, and we're not
talking about basic like constitutional right to life. We're not
talking about those kind of things. In fact, they'd love
to deny those to children, and they do deny those
to children. This is just like, hey, can you pick
you know which dress code you get to follow at
your school.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
They want to let kids decide that, not parents.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
She was our starting Friday Fool of the Week on
my local program in Denver, Ryan Schuling Live. And I'm
trying to remember her name. Maybe you will and I'll
find it during the break. I will find this sound
you're gonna want it.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
She was making the case in the Colorado General Assembly
that we should take precedent from all the old monarchy
of engn and that kids were wards of the state
and the king, and that parental rights were put aside. Yeah,
prior to the American Revolution. Yeah, and we overthrew that monarch.
There's a reason where America a monarchy.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
They don't care well in Cherry Creek School is also
horrible job with reporting sexual assaults that happened on campus
and in the parking lot. I'm shock it didn't even
report it to parents. It was a few years back,
so tons of problems in that district. I would suggest
moving your child if they're in that district. I'm Christy
Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kaplas show, calling over
the break if you have thoughts eight five five four
zero five eight two five five or text five seven
(35:36):
seven three nine. I'm sure Ryan will have that sound
for us when we come back about the colonial legislator
who thinks that your kids should belong to the government.
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