September 9, 2025 • 36 mins
In a tag-team combination more anticipated than any since Hulk Hogan and 'Macho Man' Randy Savage formed the Mega Powers, 23rd district attorney George Brauchler and Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams lay down the law like nothing Denver talk radio has ever heard before - or may ever hear again. Douglas County Sheriff Darren Weekly jumps off the top rope from the very beginning of the show, as we are off and running with hi-jinks, tomfoolery, and shenanigans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
The last book of the New Testament is Revelations, and
there is a portion right after the Four Horsemen that
talks about this particular show that's launching right now. For
Dan Caplis who's not in the studio. It is me,
a guy named George. I'm the d in the twenty
third Judicial District. I am joined by none other than.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The world County Sheriff, Steve Roons.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It is the Sheriff and the DA for the first,
perhaps last time. I don't know how many times a
premiere is also a finale, but we're going to test
the limits of that today.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm pretty certain that there's a good chance that could
happen today. But you know, regardless, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is the show you never knew you wanted. For
those of you that seek therapy at the conclusion of this,
please send your bills directly to Dan Caplis at Dankaplislaw
dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The good thing is they will know this is a
show they didn't want.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Once we're dying, that's right, people will be like, I'm
glad we scratched that itch. I'm just sorry derailed dance
over again. Listen, We're gonna start with another member of
law enforcement. He's a guy that I know pretty well.
Because if Michael Rourke is your DA, Darren Weekly is
my sheriff joining us right now from Douglas Carrey County
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Sheriff Darren Weekly, Darren, thanks for joining.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Us, Thanks for having me. And when do I get
my own show.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I've gotta believe it'll be some time after this one ends.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
As soon as the station burns down, then they rebuild it,
then they'll call you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Listen. I want to get into a bunch of topics
with you, Darren, but really I just want to get
your reaction to one particular clip that Steve and I
wanted to play for you. It's Jasmine Crockett. She is
a congresswoman from Texas. For the moment, Ryan, if I
say clip eight, you know what I'm talking about. Hold on,
I'm gonna do it right here. If I press the
space part place, this is how the sauce. Double click
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it double here we go. I'm clicking on it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
This is it's already off the right.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
My god, this show is already come apart. Drive Darren.
Let's just pretend we're starting over. Hey, joining us right now,
Darren Weekly from the hang on one second, I want
to get your reaction to this wonderful clip. I double clicked.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Did it did nothing? Of course it didn't. You're going
to burn the computer down? Yeah, I could just It's
like I could just read it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's like, I want to be clear that like law
enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime. Okay,
that is what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to
solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them from happening, per.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Se per se. Sriff Weekly, how do you?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What are your reaction to that? What's your reaction?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's a pretty ignorant statement by an ignorant person.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Is very PC.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
When we were talking about this clip off Fair, I
told Steve, I said, she's instantly converting the sheriff's office
to a completely on call department and it's got a
non call office.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And then I have to figure out what my chili
recipe is going to be so I can imitate the
firefighters out there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I just can't imagine anything crazy in that. On the
other hand, the way you guys conduct business is to
be very proactive out there. What do you have going
on in Douglas County right now that you think helps
to set us apart in terms of the safety piece.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, when I was sworn in for suriff, I promised
the community that I would do everything that I could
to hold the line. And what I meant by that
was by keeping Douglas County a safe place to live,
a safe place to work, safe place to raise your family,
send your kids to school. And a lot of people
didn't know what I had meant by that, but they
were starting to see it now. And what my goal
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as the sheriff is is to ensure that we have
the resources out there on the street to be proactive
and stopping crimes before they ever occurred. And I'm using
technology to do that, and I've also added a lot
of staff to the street.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You are also in the midst of a re election,
which I think this show is going to be somehow
a campaign show. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think there's going to be there's just so many things, Yes,
so many activities.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah. First off, as you know, I'm a big supporter
and endorser of yours, always have been. What is the
message that you're trying to get to the voters? And
by the way, as you're answering this, Darren, is there
anybody else out there who has said no, I think
I can do a better job than Superman.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, nobody has, and I'm hoping to keep it that way.
You know, I'm running a great agency. We're very transparent.
We work hard to hire great people, which is half
the battle. A lot of cops from other jurisdictions, sorry Steve,
are coming to work for me because it's a great
place to work. We've got a great environment morale. Who
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has never been hired this organization. And you know, I'm
hoping the voters give me another chance to get and
give me a second.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So, Darren, you know, I know when you ran for
your first term, a very contested race, you had a
lot of opponents. You know, having a little bit of
a time under your belt, you feel like going into
the second election, you know you have a resume. Now
you have something to stand for or stand on. I
would be surprised if you have an opponent, But it
sounds like you're pretty confident in the work that your
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agency is doing. And I don't know why you shouldn't be.
If there's any one more thing that you want to
change or improve upon for the community, what would that be.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
At this point, we're still playing catch up. To be
honest with you, I still we're still way behind the
curve in terms of deputies on the street.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The population in Douglas County has increased by two percent
every year and we have failed to grow with that
increase in population. And so I want to ensure that
we do have those deputies available to answer calls for
service and be proactive, because if our deputies are just
going call to call to call, there's no proactive policing
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BI and you're just responding to victims of crime, and
that's no way to there's no way to to you know,
be a run law enforcement in a community.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, according to Jasmine Crockett, it is. I mean we
just heard her say it, so, so to that point
anytime about being proactive, I mean, how many times are
your deputies out there? And you can't quantify this probably,
but you can give us some anecdotal information. How often
are your deputies out on proactive patrol and they stumble
into something or they're they're following their hunch and they
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create a big arrest, they make a traffic stop that
turns into something else. I mean, that's a large portion
of the day I have to assume. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
One hundred percent? And I have high expectations of them.
They know what the expectations are. You're going to be
a patrolled deputy in my agency, and that means getting
out there, making traffic stops, being in that high those
high crime areas, and doing traffic enforcement as well. Traffic
is one of the basest complaints that we have in
our community, and so I expect them to be out
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there and be proactive, not sitting in a parking lot
doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Hey, we had a discussion here on and off the
air about the mental health piece. You may have read
that Sheriff Reems had to put out a warning news
community that a pretty bad dude and attempted second agree
murderer was cut loose from the system based on these
crazy competency laws pun intended. What are you seeing in
terms of the folks that you're coming across that. We
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end up arresting for various crimes that are impacted by
some kind of mental illness.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A large number of them. You know, many of the
people that we arrest have mental health issues, they have
drug and alcohol issues, and they end up in my jail.
And it's a problem that's not going away, this competency issue.
Defense attorneys are using this to try and from my perspective,
get their clients y sure, so to speak, and they
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so's we're going to see more and more of this,
and so the state legislature, you know, we need to
do something. I just don't have a lot of confidence
in the majority in our legislature at this point.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Do you and you I think I know the answers,
but I want to ask you to Steve sure. Do
you guys have a pursuit policy there in Douglas County
There are a lot of agencies as you get closer
to Denver, who if someone gets above forty five miles
an hour, they just call it off and say we'll
catch you later.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
What do you guys do?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Go ahead, Dan, we have we have we have strict
policies that are in place. But if that person has
committed a felony act. If they're in a stolen car
and we have problem cause to believe it, stolen's got
to be more than a hunch. Depending on traffic conditions,
time of day, a lot of other variables, we will
chase you, and you'd be people would be shocked how
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many agencies absolutely will not chase for much of anything anymore,
not in Douglas County, because we want the reputation. If
you come to Douglas County and you commit crimes, we
are not going to stop, and we are going to
chase you, and if you get away from us, we're
going to write warrants to find you wherever you're So.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I was gonna say, I just assumed that in Willd County, Darren,
it's a lot like the sheriff version of grand theft auto?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is that now? It's right? So all right, let's bring
this back to reality. We are a low crime area
because we're hard on criminals, much like you're trying to
be inside. Shut up, George. Anyways, in Well County we'll chase.
We'll chase the bad guys too. Our our you know,
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our dividing line is is maybe just a little different
we're looking for people, you know, the level of crime,
the the magnitude of their crime. Like we had an
attempted homicide suspect. We chase him until the wheels fell
off and actually crashing in order to be able to, uh,
to arrest that individual. That's just kind of that, that's
kind of par for the course. We'll chase the stolen
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vehicle as well, but if it gets to a point
where it's making the pursuit of that vehicle more dangerous
than more dangerous to the public than it's worth, then
we'll cut it off. But I think that's pretty common
for any any truly uh proactive law enforcement Entiteach Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Darren Weekly, I can't thank you enough for coming on
with this last question though. Is there anything in your
life could you reach a point of such despair or
desperation that you could ever conceive of running for county
Commissioner Sheriff darn Weekly from Douglas County, Love you, Bat,
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I'll see you back out there in the safe place,
all right.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Thanks darn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Hey that said, Darren Weekly. My name is George Broker.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This guy right over here is well Kenny Sheriff Steve Riams,
So we're gonna go to break so we can we
can just take George off the mic for a few minutes.
We'll be back in just a few You're listening to
Dan Kapla Show on six point thirty KHL.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. The
criminal justice system is divided into two halves, the sheriffs
and the people that actually do all the hard stuff.
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Of course, George Brockler and Steve Riheams, sheriff from Well
County filling in for Dan Caplos on what may be
the end of all of our careers here on the radio.
And I want to apologize in advance to Ryan and
Kelly and Alexa because they'll also be escorted from the
building later. As you may recall, we just had Sheriff
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Darren Weekly on. By the way, I should tell you
that there's a text line five seven seven three nine
five seven seven three nine text it in. We'll read it.
It just has to start with Dan and George is
better than Steve, and then whatever message you want to
put on there that just that thing just comes right
to us. I appreciate Shriff that'll go out and get
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it done. That's why I think I like Darren so
much in YouTube. Steve, I mean, you guys do it
for your communities in a way. And you and I
talked about this a little off air before the show too,
and that is if you went back thirty years and
talked about the things that you were doing, people would
be like, duh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So what are you going to do as a sheriff's candidate.
I'm gonna go out and arrest bad guys. Okay, yeah,
right right, that's a novel. Now, yeah, more, Yeah, we're
going to do more of that. Yeah, we're going to
do as much of that as possible. But yeah, it's
inflammatory in some parts of this state.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now we have attorney generals who h Ryan clip nine
if you would.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, of course, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
After someone commits a third or fourth car theft in
say three months, they should be kept in with a
really high bond because you got a sense they're gonna
get out, they're gonna commit more crimes.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That guy is a moron and he beat you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh buddy, he beat me. There's no doubt about it.
And believe me, I want to say stolen election. I
don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think he beat me. I think I just I.
It keeps me up at night. It gives me facial tick.
People say, hey, why don't you run for a g again?
And I said, because in one lifetime, if I lost
to Wiser and Griswold, I have to move off the
freaking planet. I couldn't look at anyone in the eye.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Again. Well, it just shows you how ridiculous this state
has gotten. And you know, we were highlighting some other
stuff that's gone on the person I had to release
from my facility because he was ruled incompetent to stand trial.
All that being said, at some point you have to
think that this state goes all right, enough's enough. We
tried that experiment. It failed. We elected this idiot for AG.
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We don't want to do that anymore. But I don't
know if we're there yet. No, I don't know if
we're there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's why we need good people to serve in office,
and why for particular positions. And this is going to
sound self serving, but I don't mean it to be
like Sheriff and DA. I get term limits for legislators,
I do, but for Sheriff and DA it seems to
me like you want the experience, you want that sort
of ouse, but you're termed out. Man, You've already served
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your twenty years in officer away wherever the hell it's
supposed to be. What are you going to do? What
does the next chapter look like for Sheriff?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Steve rains Well? I have one year, three months, and
twenty six days left in my time as sheriff, not
that I'm counting down, but that's also going to be
hopefully the start of my next chapter, my next career.
Maybe I'm making my formal announcement that I'm running for
a Weld County Commissioner at large. Yeah, thanks, thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, right on those popping right there there it is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I figured twenty eight years with the county, I've been
I've been affiliated with the county longer than I think
the entire board combined currently, So I've been around to
see a few things. I never had an interest in
running for county commissioner. To be honest with you, I
don't think anybody grows up and says, man, I can't
wait to be a county commissioner. But when you watch
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what goes on in a county and you know that
those are the folks that are setting the tone for
the county. They're looking at where the budget goes. You know,
how can we best spend these tax dollars to or
the citizens of any given county. It starts to matter
when you're in a position like sheriff for DA, because
you want to make sure those funds are being spent
the right way. And over the last three years, there's
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been a tendency in Wild County to do something we
haven't done in a really long time, and that's the
possibility of taking on debt. I don't like that we
shut down the Border County Commissioners at one point, shut
down public comment during open meetings. You know, that's the
trend I don't like. And quite honestly, it's just we
haven't been operating in a way such as when Barb
Kirkmeyer was a commissioner, where we're really focused on spending
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the tax payer dollars in the wisest fashion. And that's
not to say that everybody on the current Border County
Commissioners isn't isn't going in the right direction. There's some
fine folks there, but I'm going to run against one
of the sitting commissioners, and we're going to see if
the voters appreciate that or not and go from there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Awesome. I got a question for you. Look, almost every
year of your last two terms as sheriff, the legislature
has whittled away at law enforcement powers and tools, but
by the same token, they've also attacked local control and counties.
But how do you deal with that? Like you get
on the how do you defend Weld from this?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, Weld's in a unique place because we're a home
ruld charter county, so we have a little bit more
authority to take care of the of the constituents inside
the county. And you know, we didn't talk about this
before the show, but it gives us a chance to
do something like what you see some of the municipalities
in the Denver metro area. Aurora, you know, create your
own your own criminal offenses to to fill the gap
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that the state is leaving as a void kar theft
for one or Aurora figured out, Hey, you know, if
we can't figure out how to do this through our
district attorney's offices or whatever, we'll just make a county
charge in our city charge in their case. And we'll
go after it that way. I think you could do
the same thing in Weld County. But you know, quite frankly,
the citizens of Weld County, they'll they'll make their voices
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very well heard, and you know exactly where they want
their money. And as long as you're being responsible with
the way you govern Weld County. A lot of the
stuff that comes from the state we're just insulated from.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For the budget, stuff that you have to encounter as
a world County commissioner with energy under constant attack by
the people that think that the wind in the sun
are going to keep us all powered up all the time. Uh,
what do you do about that?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Well, so that's a lot bigger issue. And you know,
I think, as much as I can, I don't care
for Governor Poulis and even Hickenlooper before him. You know,
there has to be a realization that a lot of
the tax money for the state comes from that oil
and gas industry. And while there are people at the
state legislature that say, let's just let's just rid the
state of that, you know, there's a reality it comes
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from you're going to cut your nose off despite your face,
and I think you know, you got to you got
to continuously lead lean into that. But as a commissioner,
you know you're not You're not controlling what happens at
the state legislature. You're you're definitely influencing it. And quite frankly,
I think I have a voice that I can influence
a lot of people down at that that the Gold Dome,
whether it's in the role of sheriff or whether it's
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in the roll of county commission And I think we
got to keep fighting for the ability to produce oil
and gas and not just Well County, but any place
in Colorado where it's where it's capable of and.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
For folks that I can't see us on the video
because there is none. Steve is also a physically intimidating person,
so you have that going for you. Also, you could
go and intimidate some of the people down there. You
do you have a website yet a thing though, I do.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Man, it's all official. You know, we're announced, We're on
Secretary of State and tracer the whole thing. Yeah, it's
reams for commissioner. It's real inventive, but it's all spelled out.
You know, you don't have to come up with any
numbers or anything. And I'm really hoping people get on
there and donate because I have a donation. And if
we start getting a lot of donations during the show,
maybe we can do like a telethon thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm hoping for Steve reems Weld, but that that just
doesn't sound the same. Hey, listen, we're going to come
back after a quick break. Here it is George Brockler
and Steve Reams filling in for Dan Kablas all the
Dad Kabla Show. You're listening to The Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplas Show. Here with George Broccolar,
the DA and Will kenn of Shriff Steve Raimes co
hosting this dumpster fire of a show. Dan Caplis will
never make another decision like this again, I'm quite certain.
But you know, we're trying to hold it together, keeping
it on the rails. I guess, George, I don't know
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think when the rails turn into powder and you
know what I'm talking about, I'm kidding, that's when we know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
This before then. Hey, look, I just announced the political candidacy.
That's a good point Yeah, that's dumb.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's a really good point, by the way, speaking of
a really really clever, important, poignant, powerful things. I wanted
you to react, Sheriff, if you would to this clip.
It's from It's from a difference maker.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's see what he has to say. We're learning more
about him.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Inmate who's been released in World count, the sheriff's office
is warning this person could be a danger to the community.
Twenty one year old da Visa Frame has been released
from jail because he was ruled mentally incompetent to stand trial.
He was initially arrested on suspicion of attempt to commit
second degree murder and assault. You're a reporter in northern Colorado,
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Dylan Thomas joining US Live now.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Dylan.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
You spoke with a Weld County sheriff today to get
his opinion on this decision, and the sheriff says he
feels he has been placed in handcuffs himself in this situation.
He blamed state lawmakers for creating a law which allows
some violent criminals to then fall through the cracks of
the system. Sheriff Reems says that is exactly what happened
today when he released an inmate into the community, an
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inmate who he says is a dangerous threat to others.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's a very violent crime. And how rapidly this person
has accumulated contacts with law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's concerning World.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
County Sheriff Steve Reems is warning his residence of a
man he released from jail, not by his own choosing,
but because the suspect was ruled incompetent to stand tru.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
With that ruling, were forced to release that individual.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That individual is dabisa frame. Now hold on, let's just
back up there. That sounded like a full grown adult
male who claims to be Steve Reims.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, that sound at all like you. I don't know
where they got that yet.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This was the case you guys started talking about before.
But what's the gist of this thing?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How did we get here?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah? So, I mean, this guy gets arrested by the
Greeley Police Department for an action he had, or an
interaction he has in downtown Greeley. He he and a
group of his friends. From what we can tell, they
come upon another group of individuals who'd been out having
a good time, had a few drinks and had dinner
they're walking back to their car, and Visa and his
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friends decide they're going to cause trouble. So the eventual
victim tries to, you know, kind of be the point
person get all of his friends away from this guy,
and he becomes the focal point of an attack, and
so Dabisa from starts trying to, you know, have a
fist fight with this guy. And he's just trying to
get his friends away from the situation and still defend himself,
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and it goes to a little bit of a fist fight.
The victim turns his head just slightly to see if
his friends are okay, and he gets sucker punched. He
goes down and this guy jumps on top of him
and just attacks. I mean, he hits him over and
over and over again, to the point that he receives
enough of an injury to qualify a serious bodily injury.
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And this person, the suspect, was eventually picked up by
the Greeley Police Department and arrested on attempted second degree
homicide and a whole host of other charges. He comes
to my jail in April, and you know, he had
already been ruled mentally incompetent on some prior arrests, and
so that kind of triggers the whole process inside of
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the criminal justice system to the point where I'm definitely
shortening all this. But to the point yesterday we were
forced to release him. And you know I'm not involved
in that court process, right you know that. Well, I'm
the guy at the end of the funnel when they say, hey,
open the door, this guy's got to go. It just
it's heartbreaking. I mean, what he did was caught on video,
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or what the suspect did was caught on video by
his friends posted to social media. The victim's family actually
found these videos and sent them to me and said,
tell me, this guy is not competent. Watch what he's doing.
They're posting this stuff on Facebook. It looks like they're
going out and doing this stuff for entertainment value. But regardless,
you know, the criminal justice system happens and or doesn't happen,
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whatever you want to say. He gets released, and so
I have to kick this guy out into the community.
And to feel as if you failed the community is
an understatement, because I mean, my role is to keep
the community safe from these folks. I run a jail
to make sure that these kind of people stay inside.
And so to get this ruling of saying he's got
to go, I mean, it's a gut punch and it
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just sucks.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The only alternative available is this concept of a short
term commitment, which the DA's aren't a part of either.
It has to become a civil thing that maybe the
county attorneys do. But it's a short term commitment at most,
I think it's like one hundred and twenty days tops.
But this we've created a situation legislatively where you take
people that are known to be dangerous and a threat
to the community and say we'd just rather keep them
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out on the street and we'll just keep bringing them
back in the cost to taxpayers. And how do you
tell the victims this is justice?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, it's not. I mean, obviously they're destroyed over this,
right like they want they want this guy to be
held accountable, and so did the prior victim, I'm quite certain,
and the other victims of this guy's actions. But you
know this, I felt like I had to put this
out to the community. This guy's going back out onto
the street. It's something we've never done for someone who's
been released on a mental incompetency evaluation. I felt like
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I had to. And now you know it's it's catching
such traction in the media because it's such a serious issue.
Then you know, you got guys like Elon Musk that
are following this on Twitter and making comments, and he's
tagging Jared Polison. Well, Jared Polus, I guess is now saying, well,
I'm calling the district attorney and the county attorney and
asking them why they didn't use Title twenty five in
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Title twenty seven to ensure this person's not at large. Well,
here's an idea. How about we just fix this craft
that you passed in twenty four Let's just get rid
of House Bill ten ten thirty four that weaken the
system even more than it already was. How about we
just do that instead of doing criminal justice reform that
makes it okay for the bad guy to get away
with everything. How about we actually do something that helps
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the victims again, because we haven't done that since I
don't know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. That seems like the
last time victims were talked about at the state legislature.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh, victims get short shrifted I've talked about this on
the radio a bunch, But this is the same legislature,
Democrat controlled House Judiciary Committee that killed a bill that
sought to merely create mandatory prison for child rapists. That's
all just you know, you can't get probation if you
rape a child. And they defeated it saying we just
don't put people in cages, and my answer is, yes,
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we do. We do rape kids in cases like you
call it whatever you want. I want them off the street.
That's far more humane than I think they should be
dealt with. But yeah, you know, go to something even less,
you know, less harmful if you will. And I don't
even know if that's the right word. We couldn't even
get no amount. Let's get rid of fentanyl. We don't
want it air community. There's no amount of it that's
that's safe, right, you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Know, a pill can kill. We've heard all these public
safety campaigns, but when we say, hey, any amount of
fentanyl should be a felony, not we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's that's crazy mastigmatizing. Yeah, harm reduction. Yeah, well, we're
going to find a place for them to do it safely.
There is no place to do it safely, and the
harm reduction is only reducing the harm to the criminal.
There's no harm reduction for the rest of the community.
Let's go to the phone lines real quickly here before
we have to cut away. Sean from Loveland, you had
a comment on high speed chases for Sheriff Steve Reams Well.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I actually had a I actually had a question for
each of you, No math, I would like to get
your professional each of your professional opinion on the idea
of mandatory minimum sentencing for anyone who would attempt to
elude the police. It's out of control.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm good with it.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
It seems as logical as you informing the public.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Of what's going on in our world.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm totally fine with it. In fact, get someone to
run it and I'll go down and testify in support
of it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
One hundred percent. And I tell you what you point
out is it is a probation eligible church. This legislature
would never, ever, never create another mandatory minimum, especially for
something that seeks to protect the public. Law enforcement wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well to that point, this suspect that I'm talking about
went on this wild car chase from somewhere in Colorado
all the way through Oklahoma down into Texas. Oh, my lord,
and one of his prior criminal offenses, he's still out
to beat people on the street and cause havoc. I mean, yeah,
a mandatory minimum sentence of I don't know, let's say
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ten years for what he did on that one. It
have saved a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But you know, the other thing, though, Sean, is that
we wouldn't need mandatory minimums. And I like them me too.
If we had judges that would, instead of visiting their
own sense of right and wrong on the communities they serve,
use the community standards to issue those sentences. Absolutely, And
if they did that, we'd already have mandatory minimums in
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Douglas and we don't.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Well, I can't understand.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
It Just is illogical to me that we would ever
accept that in any manner.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
You're right, at too many people at risk.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
So the only problem in any of this discussion is
that you're using the term logic when you're talking about
the state legislature. And I know I'm not trying to
be funny, but it's the truth. When you hear the
arguments that they make down there, you're like, what reality?
I mean It's like they all went to the Jasmine
Crockett school of logic. It just makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Sean, thanks for the phone call, man, I really appreciate this.
We got to cut away for a break, but listen,
Sean's line is open. You can give us a call
three zero three seven one three eight two five. That's
seven fifty five, and of course text us at five
seven seven three nine. Later we'll change that number to
Kelly's cell phone. But until that time, his district Attorney
George Brockler and Well County Sheriff Steve Reams filling in
(29:13):
for Dan Caplis. We're going to get that down and
now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast. Rocker See
reads back filling in for Dan Caplis one of our
texts in five seven seven three nine, DA and the
Sheriff reminds me of bj and the Bear, and we
know who bear is.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Better not drive through World County. Oh look, I will
be avoiding World County for the next several months. You
very well should be.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
On topic with the song for each of you, what
is the biggest cocaine bust you've ever been personally involved
with in law enforcement?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Thirty four double D What, No, it's inappropriate. What in
the world you have a head injury?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It is certain you have a head injury.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And that's why I'm represented by it. You know that
that's a big one. I don't know the total, the
total poundage, but it was in the pounds for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Pounds. How much was it worth? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh, I don't know the street value. Well, what's really amazing.
We should get the US attorney's off to talk about this.
There is an amount below which they just have stopped caring,
and frankly, given all their focus on immigration these days,
that that amount could be tons. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, so under the prior administration, your administration, Ryan, Well, yeah,
I think you voted for that guy. Anyways, time Hello,
So we arrested a guy, Well, we actually rescued a
guy who had been kidnapped by we'll just say a
cartel situation and hauled all the way out to Sedgwick County.
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He was in a safe house out there east I
want to say safe house. It was a cartel house.
He was being held hostage. We go out there, this
bust this place, save our hostage, and we find nineteen
illegals inside this house. They have no relation to each
other whatsoever. All kinds of dope. I've not seen that
much dope in any three houses, this three house compound.
(31:06):
We can't get anyone to come out what it's not
my jurisdiction. And there's one guy in Sedgwick County, the sheriff,
and he's he's gone for like ten days straight. He's like,
I can't process this, we can't get we can't get
any federal law enforcement agency to come interact with it.
So under Ryan's president's administration, we basically just walked away
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from We got our guy and we said, hey, this
stuff's here. I hope you guys can get them.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look, but let's be fair here, Steve. Those were just
hard working immigrants doing jobs that Americans won't do.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, you know, they were coming here to start a better.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Life, probably trying to earn money to bring their families
across the border.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'm sure it was all legit, you know, it was
all I'm sure it was medicinal.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It reminds me of the beginning of the movie Sacario.
If you saw Blunt, Like they go to that house
and they pull off the dry wall and it's all
money and bodies.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So, you know, when you tell stories about what you
see in law enforcement and how how crippled the criminal
justice system is, people are like that that that can happen?
You know, are you seeing?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You compare it to a show on TV that yeah, whatever,
there's a reason that these movies get made. They're based
on some kind of story that some law enforcement guys
that you won't believe this, and then they write they
make a movie.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Ye, when you're done, Steven being a county commissioner up
in Weld County, will you be writing a book on
You'll never believe this?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
So no now because I don't. I don't know that
people think it's just a work of fiction. I mean,
I really, what do you do with Like there's just
not a reality for there's not a place for a
lot of people to go. Okay, I see where that
could happen. And some of it's dealing with employees, Like
you have employees, yeah, you know what that's like. I
have four hundred and fifty of them. And sometimes you're like, really,
(32:53):
like how did you get through the hiring process? And
then once you went through all that, why would you
do the things that I mean, we I terminate people
when they do stupid things. I mean, yeah, for sure,
but sometimes like I beg for these people to come
sit down in termination hearing because I just want, Okay,
tell me why you did this thing? Well, why did you?
Why did you decide you want to have sex with
an inmate? Yeah? I mean have you seen her? I'm
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sure you've been asked that before.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But yeah, I we've actually asked that question because we
end up prosecuting absolutely and they're thankfully there haven't been
a ton of them, but there have been, I will
say without without a close second. And you're talking about
dealing with the cases and the misery and the victims.
The worst part of this job is the HR aspect.
It's like you cannot wrap your mind around how ridiculous
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and sometimes juvenile people can be. Now under the new office,
we're in a honeymoon period. You're going pretty good, but
it is so high school on steroids in some ways.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, in a lot of ways. And you know, you
realize people are people, and you know, typically when you're
dealing with that HR aspect, it's you know, five percent
of your working force. You know, they're the ones that yeah,
cause you all the problems. So if you can continuously
get rid of that group, or you know, correct that
things are pretty generally pretty good, and the rest of
the employees want you to hold those bad apples accountable.
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That's I think that's the part that a lot of
people don't understand, especially when you're talking about enforcement. There's
this idea that we just want the bad apples, you know,
running around like we know not at all. Cops are
harder on bad cops than any other group. And if
you don't call out the bad cops, your agency just
it destroys itself. And so you know, we're pretty good
at making sure, Hey, if you got a bad one,
they're gone.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Let's try to see if we can squeeze in here.
Kevin from Boulder, who's been very patient on hold, We
got a little bit of time, keV. What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 9 (34:40):
We got two questions.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
The tape you played earlier of the lady Jasmine Crockett
making a statement that's the cops.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So wiser are or are not required?
Speaker 9 (34:51):
What was she saying?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
She said that cops aren't to prevent crime, they're just
to investigation after it happens, react and investigate.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I want to be clear that like law enforcement isn't
to prevent crime, law enforcement solve crime.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
They are supposed to solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them
from happening, per se, per se, per se.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
So my question is, I thought that the Supreme Court
ruled years ago that uh, law enforcement cannot be required
to prevent crime because if they.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Were, Oh, I know what you're saying, Hey, forgive me. You
can hear that music, Kevin, Thanks man.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
So we'll get back to that after the break. But
we're on a heart break here. Stick with us. I'm
sure second hour is going to get much better here
with George Brockler and Steve Reams on The Dan Kaplo Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
The last book of the New Testament is Revelations, and
there is a portion right after the Four Horsemen that
talks about this particular show that's launching right now. For
Dan Caplis who's not in the studio. It is me,
a guy named George. I'm the d in the twenty
third Judicial District. I am joined by none other than.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
The world County Sheriff, Steve Roons.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It is the Sheriff and the DA for the first,
perhaps last time. I don't know how many times a
premiere is also a finale, but we're going to test
the limits of that today.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm pretty certain that there's a good chance that could
happen today. But you know, regardless, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This is the show you never knew you wanted. For
those of you that seek therapy at the conclusion of this,
please send your bills directly to Dan Caplis at Dankaplislaw
dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The good thing is they will know this is a
show they didn't want.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Once we're dying, that's right, people will be like, I'm
glad we scratched that itch. I'm just sorry derailed dance
over again. Listen, We're gonna start with another member of
law enforcement. He's a guy that I know pretty well.
Because if Michael Rourke is your DA, Darren Weekly is
my sheriff joining us right now from Douglas Carrey County
(01:26):
Sheriff Darren Weekly, Darren, thanks for joining.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Us, Thanks for having me. And when do I get
my own show.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I've gotta believe it'll be some time after this one ends.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
As soon as the station burns down, then they rebuild it,
then they'll call you.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Listen. I want to get into a bunch of topics
with you, Darren, but really I just want to get
your reaction to one particular clip that Steve and I
wanted to play for you. It's Jasmine Crockett. She is
a congresswoman from Texas. For the moment, Ryan, if I
say clip eight, you know what I'm talking about. Hold on,
I'm gonna do it right here. If I press the
space part place, this is how the sauce. Double click
(02:02):
it double here we go. I'm clicking on it.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
This is it's already off the right.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
My god, this show is already come apart. Drive Darren.
Let's just pretend we're starting over. Hey, joining us right now,
Darren Weekly from the hang on one second, I want
to get your reaction to this wonderful clip. I double clicked.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Did it did nothing? Of course it didn't. You're going
to burn the computer down? Yeah, I could just It's
like I could just read it.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's like, I want to be clear that like law
enforcement isn't to prevent crime. Law enforcement solves crime. Okay,
that is what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to
solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them from happening, per.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Se per se. Sriff Weekly, how do you?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What are your reaction to that? What's your reaction?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's a pretty ignorant statement by an ignorant person.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Is very PC.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
When we were talking about this clip off Fair, I
told Steve, I said, she's instantly converting the sheriff's office
to a completely on call department and it's got a
non call office.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
And then I have to figure out what my chili
recipe is going to be so I can imitate the
firefighters out there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I just can't imagine anything crazy in that. On the
other hand, the way you guys conduct business is to
be very proactive out there. What do you have going
on in Douglas County right now that you think helps
to set us apart in terms of the safety piece.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, when I was sworn in for suriff, I promised
the community that I would do everything that I could
to hold the line. And what I meant by that
was by keeping Douglas County a safe place to live,
a safe place to work, safe place to raise your family,
send your kids to school. And a lot of people
didn't know what I had meant by that, but they
were starting to see it now. And what my goal
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as the sheriff is is to ensure that we have
the resources out there on the street to be proactive
and stopping crimes before they ever occurred. And I'm using
technology to do that, and I've also added a lot
of staff to the street.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
You are also in the midst of a re election,
which I think this show is going to be somehow
a campaign show. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think there's going to be there's just so many things, Yes,
so many activities.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah. First off, as you know, I'm a big supporter
and endorser of yours, always have been. What is the
message that you're trying to get to the voters? And
by the way, as you're answering this, Darren, is there
anybody else out there who has said no, I think
I can do a better job than Superman.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
No, nobody has, and I'm hoping to keep it that way.
You know, I'm running a great agency. We're very transparent.
We work hard to hire great people, which is half
the battle. A lot of cops from other jurisdictions, sorry Steve,
are coming to work for me because it's a great
place to work. We've got a great environment morale. Who
(04:54):
has never been hired this organization. And you know, I'm
hoping the voters give me another chance to get and
give me a second.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
So, Darren, you know, I know when you ran for
your first term, a very contested race, you had a
lot of opponents. You know, having a little bit of
a time under your belt, you feel like going into
the second election, you know you have a resume. Now
you have something to stand for or stand on. I
would be surprised if you have an opponent, But it
sounds like you're pretty confident in the work that your
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agency is doing. And I don't know why you shouldn't be.
If there's any one more thing that you want to
change or improve upon for the community, what would that be.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
At this point, we're still playing catch up. To be
honest with you, I still we're still way behind the
curve in terms of deputies on the street.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The population in Douglas County has increased by two percent
every year and we have failed to grow with that
increase in population. And so I want to ensure that
we do have those deputies available to answer calls for
service and be proactive, because if our deputies are just
going call to call to call, there's no proactive policing
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BI and you're just responding to victims of crime, and
that's no way to there's no way to to you know,
be a run law enforcement in a community.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, according to Jasmine Crockett, it is. I mean we
just heard her say it, so, so to that point
anytime about being proactive, I mean, how many times are
your deputies out there? And you can't quantify this probably,
but you can give us some anecdotal information. How often
are your deputies out on proactive patrol and they stumble
into something or they're they're following their hunch and they
(06:30):
create a big arrest, they make a traffic stop that
turns into something else. I mean, that's a large portion
of the day I have to assume. Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
One hundred percent? And I have high expectations of them.
They know what the expectations are. You're going to be
a patrolled deputy in my agency, and that means getting
out there, making traffic stops, being in that high those
high crime areas, and doing traffic enforcement as well. Traffic
is one of the basest complaints that we have in
our community, and so I expect them to be out
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there and be proactive, not sitting in a parking lot
doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Hey, we had a discussion here on and off the
air about the mental health piece. You may have read
that Sheriff Reems had to put out a warning news
community that a pretty bad dude and attempted second agree
murderer was cut loose from the system based on these
crazy competency laws pun intended. What are you seeing in
terms of the folks that you're coming across that. We
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end up arresting for various crimes that are impacted by
some kind of mental illness.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
A large number of them. You know, many of the
people that we arrest have mental health issues, they have
drug and alcohol issues, and they end up in my jail.
And it's a problem that's not going away, this competency issue.
Defense attorneys are using this to try and from my perspective,
get their clients y sure, so to speak, and they
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so's we're going to see more and more of this,
and so the state legislature, you know, we need to
do something. I just don't have a lot of confidence
in the majority in our legislature at this point.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Do you and you I think I know the answers,
but I want to ask you to Steve sure. Do
you guys have a pursuit policy there in Douglas County
There are a lot of agencies as you get closer
to Denver, who if someone gets above forty five miles
an hour, they just call it off and say we'll
catch you later.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
What do you guys do?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Go ahead, Dan, we have we have we have strict
policies that are in place. But if that person has
committed a felony act. If they're in a stolen car
and we have problem cause to believe it, stolen's got
to be more than a hunch. Depending on traffic conditions,
time of day, a lot of other variables, we will
chase you, and you'd be people would be shocked how
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many agencies absolutely will not chase for much of anything anymore,
not in Douglas County, because we want the reputation. If
you come to Douglas County and you commit crimes, we
are not going to stop, and we are going to
chase you, and if you get away from us, we're
going to write warrants to find you wherever you're So.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I was gonna say, I just assumed that in Willd County, Darren,
it's a lot like the sheriff version of grand theft auto?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is that now? It's right? So all right, let's bring
this back to reality. We are a low crime area
because we're hard on criminals, much like you're trying to
be inside. Shut up, George. Anyways, in Well County we'll chase.
We'll chase the bad guys too. Our our you know,
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our dividing line is is maybe just a little different
we're looking for people, you know, the level of crime,
the the magnitude of their crime. Like we had an
attempted homicide suspect. We chase him until the wheels fell
off and actually crashing in order to be able to, uh,
to arrest that individual. That's just kind of that, that's
kind of par for the course. We'll chase the stolen
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vehicle as well, but if it gets to a point
where it's making the pursuit of that vehicle more dangerous
than more dangerous to the public than it's worth, then
we'll cut it off. But I think that's pretty common
for any any truly uh proactive law enforcement Entiteach Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Darren Weekly, I can't thank you enough for coming on
with this last question though. Is there anything in your
life could you reach a point of such despair or
desperation that you could ever conceive of running for county
Commissioner Sheriff darn Weekly from Douglas County, Love you, Bat,
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I'll see you back out there in the safe place,
all right.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Thanks darn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Hey that said, Darren Weekly. My name is George Broker.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
This guy right over here is well Kenny Sheriff Steve Riams,
So we're gonna go to break so we can we
can just take George off the mic for a few minutes.
We'll be back in just a few You're listening to
Dan Kapla Show on six point thirty KHL.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast. The
criminal justice system is divided into two halves, the sheriffs
and the people that actually do all the hard stuff.
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Of course, George Brockler and Steve Riheams, sheriff from Well
County filling in for Dan Caplos on what may be
the end of all of our careers here on the radio.
And I want to apologize in advance to Ryan and
Kelly and Alexa because they'll also be escorted from the
building later. As you may recall, we just had Sheriff
(11:30):
Darren Weekly on. By the way, I should tell you
that there's a text line five seven seven three nine
five seven seven three nine text it in. We'll read it.
It just has to start with Dan and George is
better than Steve, and then whatever message you want to
put on there that just that thing just comes right
to us. I appreciate Shriff that'll go out and get
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it done. That's why I think I like Darren so
much in YouTube. Steve, I mean, you guys do it
for your communities in a way. And you and I
talked about this a little off air before the show too,
and that is if you went back thirty years and
talked about the things that you were doing, people would
be like, duh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So what are you going to do as a sheriff's candidate.
I'm gonna go out and arrest bad guys. Okay, yeah,
right right, that's a novel. Now, yeah, more, Yeah, we're
going to do more of that. Yeah, we're going to
do as much of that as possible. But yeah, it's
inflammatory in some parts of this state.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Now we have attorney generals who h Ryan clip nine
if you would.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, of course, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
After someone commits a third or fourth car theft in
say three months, they should be kept in with a
really high bond because you got a sense they're gonna
get out, they're gonna commit more crimes.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
That guy is a moron and he beat you.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh buddy, he beat me. There's no doubt about it.
And believe me, I want to say stolen election. I
don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I think he beat me. I think I just I.
It keeps me up at night. It gives me facial tick.
People say, hey, why don't you run for a g again?
And I said, because in one lifetime, if I lost
to Wiser and Griswold, I have to move off the
freaking planet. I couldn't look at anyone in the eye.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Again. Well, it just shows you how ridiculous this state
has gotten. And you know, we were highlighting some other
stuff that's gone on the person I had to release
from my facility because he was ruled incompetent to stand trial.
All that being said, at some point you have to
think that this state goes all right, enough's enough. We
tried that experiment. It failed. We elected this idiot for AG.
(13:34):
We don't want to do that anymore. But I don't
know if we're there yet. No, I don't know if
we're there yet.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's why we need good people to serve in office,
and why for particular positions. And this is going to
sound self serving, but I don't mean it to be
like Sheriff and DA. I get term limits for legislators,
I do, but for Sheriff and DA it seems to
me like you want the experience, you want that sort
of ouse, but you're termed out. Man, You've already served
(13:58):
your twenty years in officer away wherever the hell it's
supposed to be. What are you going to do? What
does the next chapter look like for Sheriff?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Steve rains Well? I have one year, three months, and
twenty six days left in my time as sheriff, not
that I'm counting down, but that's also going to be
hopefully the start of my next chapter, my next career.
Maybe I'm making my formal announcement that I'm running for
a Weld County Commissioner at large. Yeah, thanks, thanks for that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, right on those popping right there there it is.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I figured twenty eight years with the county, I've been
I've been affiliated with the county longer than I think
the entire board combined currently, So I've been around to
see a few things. I never had an interest in
running for county commissioner. To be honest with you, I
don't think anybody grows up and says, man, I can't
wait to be a county commissioner. But when you watch
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what goes on in a county and you know that
those are the folks that are setting the tone for
the county. They're looking at where the budget goes. You know,
how can we best spend these tax dollars to or
the citizens of any given county. It starts to matter
when you're in a position like sheriff for DA, because
you want to make sure those funds are being spent
the right way. And over the last three years, there's
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been a tendency in Wild County to do something we
haven't done in a really long time, and that's the
possibility of taking on debt. I don't like that we
shut down the Border County Commissioners at one point, shut
down public comment during open meetings. You know, that's the
trend I don't like. And quite honestly, it's just we
haven't been operating in a way such as when Barb
Kirkmeyer was a commissioner, where we're really focused on spending
(15:35):
the tax payer dollars in the wisest fashion. And that's
not to say that everybody on the current Border County
Commissioners isn't isn't going in the right direction. There's some
fine folks there, but I'm going to run against one
of the sitting commissioners, and we're going to see if
the voters appreciate that or not and go from there.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Awesome. I got a question for you. Look, almost every
year of your last two terms as sheriff, the legislature
has whittled away at law enforcement powers and tools, but
by the same token, they've also attacked local control and counties.
But how do you deal with that? Like you get
on the how do you defend Weld from this?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, Weld's in a unique place because we're a home
ruld charter county, so we have a little bit more
authority to take care of the of the constituents inside
the county. And you know, we didn't talk about this
before the show, but it gives us a chance to
do something like what you see some of the municipalities
in the Denver metro area. Aurora, you know, create your
own your own criminal offenses to to fill the gap
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that the state is leaving as a void kar theft
for one or Aurora figured out, Hey, you know, if
we can't figure out how to do this through our
district attorney's offices or whatever, we'll just make a county
charge in our city charge in their case. And we'll
go after it that way. I think you could do
the same thing in Weld County. But you know, quite frankly,
the citizens of Weld County, they'll they'll make their voices
(16:56):
very well heard, and you know exactly where they want
their money. And as long as you're being responsible with
the way you govern Weld County. A lot of the
stuff that comes from the state we're just insulated from.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For the budget, stuff that you have to encounter as
a world County commissioner with energy under constant attack by
the people that think that the wind in the sun
are going to keep us all powered up all the time. Uh,
what do you do about that?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Well, so that's a lot bigger issue. And you know,
I think, as much as I can, I don't care
for Governor Poulis and even Hickenlooper before him. You know,
there has to be a realization that a lot of
the tax money for the state comes from that oil
and gas industry. And while there are people at the
state legislature that say, let's just let's just rid the
state of that, you know, there's a reality it comes
(17:42):
from you're going to cut your nose off despite your face,
and I think you know, you got to you got
to continuously lead lean into that. But as a commissioner,
you know you're not You're not controlling what happens at
the state legislature. You're you're definitely influencing it. And quite frankly,
I think I have a voice that I can influence
a lot of people down at that that the Gold Dome,
whether it's in the role of sheriff or whether it's
(18:03):
in the roll of county commission And I think we
got to keep fighting for the ability to produce oil
and gas and not just Well County, but any place
in Colorado where it's where it's capable of and.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
For folks that I can't see us on the video
because there is none. Steve is also a physically intimidating person,
so you have that going for you. Also, you could
go and intimidate some of the people down there. You
do you have a website yet a thing though, I do.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Man, it's all official. You know, we're announced, We're on
Secretary of State and tracer the whole thing. Yeah, it's
reams for commissioner. It's real inventive, but it's all spelled out.
You know, you don't have to come up with any
numbers or anything. And I'm really hoping people get on
there and donate because I have a donation. And if
we start getting a lot of donations during the show,
maybe we can do like a telethon thing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I'm hoping for Steve reems Weld, but that that just
doesn't sound the same. Hey, listen, we're going to come
back after a quick break. Here it is George Brockler
and Steve Reams filling in for Dan Kablas all the
Dad Kabla Show. You're listening to The Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplas Show. Here with George Broccolar,
the DA and Will kenn of Shriff Steve Raimes co
hosting this dumpster fire of a show. Dan Caplis will
never make another decision like this again, I'm quite certain.
But you know, we're trying to hold it together, keeping
it on the rails. I guess, George, I don't know
what do you think.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I think when the rails turn into powder and you
know what I'm talking about, I'm kidding, that's when we know.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
This before then. Hey, look, I just announced the political candidacy.
That's a good point Yeah, that's dumb.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's a really good point, by the way, speaking of
a really really clever, important, poignant, powerful things. I wanted
you to react, Sheriff, if you would to this clip.
It's from It's from a difference maker.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Let's see what he has to say. We're learning more
about him.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Inmate who's been released in World count, the sheriff's office
is warning this person could be a danger to the community.
Twenty one year old da Visa Frame has been released
from jail because he was ruled mentally incompetent to stand trial.
He was initially arrested on suspicion of attempt to commit
second degree murder and assault. You're a reporter in northern Colorado,
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Dylan Thomas joining US Live now.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Dylan.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
You spoke with a Weld County sheriff today to get
his opinion on this decision, and the sheriff says he
feels he has been placed in handcuffs himself in this situation.
He blamed state lawmakers for creating a law which allows
some violent criminals to then fall through the cracks of
the system. Sheriff Reems says that is exactly what happened
today when he released an inmate into the community, an
(20:40):
inmate who he says is a dangerous threat to others.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
It's a very violent crime. And how rapidly this person
has accumulated contacts with law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's concerning World.
Speaker 8 (20:50):
County Sheriff Steve Reems is warning his residence of a
man he released from jail, not by his own choosing,
but because the suspect was ruled incompetent to stand tru.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
With that ruling, were forced to release that individual.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That individual is dabisa frame. Now hold on, let's just
back up there. That sounded like a full grown adult
male who claims to be Steve Reims.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, that sound at all like you. I don't know
where they got that yet.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
This was the case you guys started talking about before.
But what's the gist of this thing?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
How did we get here?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah? So, I mean, this guy gets arrested by the
Greeley Police Department for an action he had, or an
interaction he has in downtown Greeley. He he and a
group of his friends. From what we can tell, they
come upon another group of individuals who'd been out having
a good time, had a few drinks and had dinner
they're walking back to their car, and Visa and his
(21:43):
friends decide they're going to cause trouble. So the eventual
victim tries to, you know, kind of be the point
person get all of his friends away from this guy,
and he becomes the focal point of an attack, and
so Dabisa from starts trying to, you know, have a
fist fight with this guy. And he's just trying to
get his friends away from the situation and still defend himself,
(22:07):
and it goes to a little bit of a fist fight.
The victim turns his head just slightly to see if
his friends are okay, and he gets sucker punched. He
goes down and this guy jumps on top of him
and just attacks. I mean, he hits him over and
over and over again, to the point that he receives
enough of an injury to qualify a serious bodily injury.
(22:28):
And this person, the suspect, was eventually picked up by
the Greeley Police Department and arrested on attempted second degree
homicide and a whole host of other charges. He comes
to my jail in April, and you know, he had
already been ruled mentally incompetent on some prior arrests, and
so that kind of triggers the whole process inside of
(22:49):
the criminal justice system to the point where I'm definitely
shortening all this. But to the point yesterday we were
forced to release him. And you know I'm not involved
in that court process, right you know that. Well, I'm
the guy at the end of the funnel when they say, hey,
open the door, this guy's got to go. It just
it's heartbreaking. I mean, what he did was caught on video,
(23:10):
or what the suspect did was caught on video by
his friends posted to social media. The victim's family actually
found these videos and sent them to me and said,
tell me, this guy is not competent. Watch what he's doing.
They're posting this stuff on Facebook. It looks like they're
going out and doing this stuff for entertainment value. But regardless,
you know, the criminal justice system happens and or doesn't happen,
(23:31):
whatever you want to say. He gets released, and so
I have to kick this guy out into the community.
And to feel as if you failed the community is
an understatement, because I mean, my role is to keep
the community safe from these folks. I run a jail
to make sure that these kind of people stay inside.
And so to get this ruling of saying he's got
to go, I mean, it's a gut punch and it
(23:52):
just sucks.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
The only alternative available is this concept of a short
term commitment, which the DA's aren't a part of either.
It has to become a civil thing that maybe the
county attorneys do. But it's a short term commitment at most,
I think it's like one hundred and twenty days tops.
But this we've created a situation legislatively where you take
people that are known to be dangerous and a threat
to the community and say we'd just rather keep them
(24:16):
out on the street and we'll just keep bringing them
back in the cost to taxpayers. And how do you
tell the victims this is justice?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Well, it's not. I mean, obviously they're destroyed over this,
right like they want they want this guy to be
held accountable, and so did the prior victim, I'm quite certain,
and the other victims of this guy's actions. But you
know this, I felt like I had to put this
out to the community. This guy's going back out onto
the street. It's something we've never done for someone who's
been released on a mental incompetency evaluation. I felt like
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I had to. And now you know it's it's catching
such traction in the media because it's such a serious issue.
Then you know, you got guys like Elon Musk that
are following this on Twitter and making comments, and he's
tagging Jared Polison. Well, Jared Polus, I guess is now saying, well,
I'm calling the district attorney and the county attorney and
asking them why they didn't use Title twenty five in
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Title twenty seven to ensure this person's not at large. Well,
here's an idea. How about we just fix this craft
that you passed in twenty four Let's just get rid
of House Bill ten ten thirty four that weaken the
system even more than it already was. How about we
just do that instead of doing criminal justice reform that
makes it okay for the bad guy to get away
with everything. How about we actually do something that helps
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the victims again, because we haven't done that since I
don't know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. That seems like the
last time victims were talked about at the state legislature.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh, victims get short shrifted I've talked about this on
the radio a bunch, But this is the same legislature,
Democrat controlled House Judiciary Committee that killed a bill that
sought to merely create mandatory prison for child rapists. That's
all just you know, you can't get probation if you
rape a child. And they defeated it saying we just
don't put people in cages, and my answer is, yes,
(26:00):
we do. We do rape kids in cases like you
call it whatever you want. I want them off the street.
That's far more humane than I think they should be
dealt with. But yeah, you know, go to something even less,
you know, less harmful if you will. And I don't
even know if that's the right word. We couldn't even
get no amount. Let's get rid of fentanyl. We don't
want it air community. There's no amount of it that's
that's safe, right, you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Know, a pill can kill. We've heard all these public
safety campaigns, but when we say, hey, any amount of
fentanyl should be a felony, not we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
That's that's crazy mastigmatizing. Yeah, harm reduction. Yeah, well, we're
going to find a place for them to do it safely.
There is no place to do it safely, and the
harm reduction is only reducing the harm to the criminal.
There's no harm reduction for the rest of the community.
Let's go to the phone lines real quickly here before
we have to cut away. Sean from Loveland, you had
a comment on high speed chases for Sheriff Steve Reams Well.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I actually had a I actually had a question for
each of you, No math, I would like to get
your professional each of your professional opinion on the idea
of mandatory minimum sentencing for anyone who would attempt to
elude the police. It's out of control.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm good with it.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
It seems as logical as you informing the public.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Of what's going on in our world.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I'm totally fine with it. In fact, get someone to
run it and I'll go down and testify in support
of it.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
One hundred percent. And I tell you what you point
out is it is a probation eligible church. This legislature
would never, ever, never create another mandatory minimum, especially for
something that seeks to protect the public. Law enforcement wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well to that point, this suspect that I'm talking about
went on this wild car chase from somewhere in Colorado
all the way through Oklahoma down into Texas. Oh, my lord,
and one of his prior criminal offenses, he's still out
to beat people on the street and cause havoc. I mean, yeah,
a mandatory minimum sentence of I don't know, let's say
(27:54):
ten years for what he did on that one. It
have saved a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
But you know, the other thing, though, Sean, is that
we wouldn't need mandatory minimums. And I like them me too.
If we had judges that would, instead of visiting their
own sense of right and wrong on the communities they serve,
use the community standards to issue those sentences. Absolutely, And
if they did that, we'd already have mandatory minimums in
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Douglas and we don't.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
Well, I can't understand.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
It Just is illogical to me that we would ever
accept that in any manner.
Speaker 9 (28:27):
You're right, at too many people at risk.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
So the only problem in any of this discussion is
that you're using the term logic when you're talking about
the state legislature. And I know I'm not trying to
be funny, but it's the truth. When you hear the
arguments that they make down there, you're like, what reality?
I mean It's like they all went to the Jasmine
Crockett school of logic. It just makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Sean, thanks for the phone call, man, I really appreciate this.
We got to cut away for a break, but listen,
Sean's line is open. You can give us a call
three zero three seven one three eight two five. That's
seven fifty five, and of course text us at five
seven seven three nine. Later we'll change that number to
Kelly's cell phone. But until that time, his district Attorney
George Brockler and Well County Sheriff Steve Reams filling in
(29:13):
for Dan Caplis. We're going to get that down and
now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast. Rocker See
reads back filling in for Dan Caplis one of our
texts in five seven seven three nine, DA and the
Sheriff reminds me of bj and the Bear, and we
know who bear is.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Better not drive through World County. Oh look, I will
be avoiding World County for the next several months. You
very well should be.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
On topic with the song for each of you, what
is the biggest cocaine bust you've ever been personally involved
with in law enforcement?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Thirty four double D What, No, it's inappropriate. What in
the world you have a head injury?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It is certain you have a head injury.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
And that's why I'm represented by it. You know that
that's a big one. I don't know the total, the
total poundage, but it was in the pounds for sure.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Pounds. How much was it worth? Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh, I don't know the street value. Well, what's really amazing.
We should get the US attorney's off to talk about this.
There is an amount below which they just have stopped caring,
and frankly, given all their focus on immigration these days,
that that amount could be tons. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, so under the prior administration, your administration, Ryan, Well, yeah,
I think you voted for that guy. Anyways, time Hello,
So we arrested a guy, Well, we actually rescued a
guy who had been kidnapped by we'll just say a
cartel situation and hauled all the way out to Sedgwick County.
(30:44):
He was in a safe house out there east I
want to say safe house. It was a cartel house.
He was being held hostage. We go out there, this
bust this place, save our hostage, and we find nineteen
illegals inside this house. They have no relation to each
other whatsoever. All kinds of dope. I've not seen that
much dope in any three houses, this three house compound.
(31:06):
We can't get anyone to come out what it's not
my jurisdiction. And there's one guy in Sedgwick County, the sheriff,
and he's he's gone for like ten days straight. He's like,
I can't process this, we can't get we can't get
any federal law enforcement agency to come interact with it.
So under Ryan's president's administration, we basically just walked away
(31:29):
from We got our guy and we said, hey, this
stuff's here. I hope you guys can get them.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Look, but let's be fair here, Steve. Those were just
hard working immigrants doing jobs that Americans won't do.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, you know, they were coming here to start a better.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Life, probably trying to earn money to bring their families
across the border.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I'm sure it was all legit, you know, it was
all I'm sure it was medicinal.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
It reminds me of the beginning of the movie Sacario.
If you saw Blunt, Like they go to that house
and they pull off the dry wall and it's all
money and bodies.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
So, you know, when you tell stories about what you
see in law enforcement and how how crippled the criminal
justice system is, people are like that that that can happen?
You know, are you seeing?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You compare it to a show on TV that yeah, whatever,
there's a reason that these movies get made. They're based
on some kind of story that some law enforcement guys
that you won't believe this, and then they write they
make a movie.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Ye, when you're done, Steven being a county commissioner up
in Weld County, will you be writing a book on
You'll never believe this?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
So no now because I don't. I don't know that
people think it's just a work of fiction. I mean,
I really, what do you do with Like there's just
not a reality for there's not a place for a
lot of people to go. Okay, I see where that
could happen. And some of it's dealing with employees, Like
you have employees, yeah, you know what that's like. I
have four hundred and fifty of them. And sometimes you're like, really,
(32:53):
like how did you get through the hiring process? And
then once you went through all that, why would you
do the things that I mean, we I terminate people
when they do stupid things. I mean, yeah, for sure,
but sometimes like I beg for these people to come
sit down in termination hearing because I just want, Okay,
tell me why you did this thing? Well, why did you?
Why did you decide you want to have sex with
an inmate? Yeah? I mean have you seen her? I'm
(33:16):
sure you've been asked that before.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But yeah, I we've actually asked that question because we
end up prosecuting absolutely and they're thankfully there haven't been
a ton of them, but there have been, I will
say without without a close second. And you're talking about
dealing with the cases and the misery and the victims.
The worst part of this job is the HR aspect.
It's like you cannot wrap your mind around how ridiculous
(33:41):
and sometimes juvenile people can be. Now under the new office,
we're in a honeymoon period. You're going pretty good, but
it is so high school on steroids in some ways.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, in a lot of ways. And you know, you
realize people are people, and you know, typically when you're
dealing with that HR aspect, it's you know, five percent
of your working force. You know, they're the ones that yeah,
cause you all the problems. So if you can continuously
get rid of that group, or you know, correct that
things are pretty generally pretty good, and the rest of
the employees want you to hold those bad apples accountable.
(34:11):
That's I think that's the part that a lot of
people don't understand, especially when you're talking about enforcement. There's
this idea that we just want the bad apples, you know,
running around like we know not at all. Cops are
harder on bad cops than any other group. And if
you don't call out the bad cops, your agency just
it destroys itself. And so you know, we're pretty good
at making sure, Hey, if you got a bad one,
they're gone.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Let's try to see if we can squeeze in here.
Kevin from Boulder, who's been very patient on hold, We
got a little bit of time, keV. What do you got, buddy?
Speaker 9 (34:40):
We got two questions.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
The tape you played earlier of the lady Jasmine Crockett
making a statement that's the cops.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
So wiser are or are not required?
Speaker 9 (34:51):
What was she saying?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
She said that cops aren't to prevent crime, they're just
to investigation after it happens, react and investigate.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I want to be clear that like law enforcement isn't
to prevent crime, law enforcement solve crime.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
They are supposed to solve crimes, not necessarily prevent them
from happening, per se, per se, per se.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
So my question is, I thought that the Supreme Court
ruled years ago that uh, law enforcement cannot be required
to prevent crime because if they.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Were, Oh, I know what you're saying, Hey, forgive me. You
can hear that music, Kevin, Thanks man.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
So we'll get back to that after the break. But
we're on a heart break here. Stick with us. I'm
sure second hour is going to get much better here
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