June 20, 2024 • 34 mins
Dan reviews the Louisiana decision to post the Ten Commandments in state public schools - is this a good idea or a violation of the First Amendment prohibiting the establishment of religion?
Jeff Crank, GOP candidate in the 5th Congressional District primary to succeed outgoing Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO), joins Dan to discuss his contentious campaign against state party chair Dave Williams before Tuesday's election.
Jeff Crank, GOP candidate in the 5th Congressional District primary to succeed outgoing Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO), joins Dan to discuss his contentious campaign against state party chair Dave Williams before Tuesday's election.
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This is Dan Caplis and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Wow. A week from today,
right, hard to believe. Probablythe most consequential quote debate that we've had
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in our lifetime. You can argueNixon, Kennedy and yeah, you make
pretty strong argument for that. Butgiven the direction America is going to take,
depending on what whether Trump or theDemocrat nominee it won't be Biden,
whoever it's going to be will be, then, yeah, i'd make the
case a week from today, Junetwenty seven is going to be Numero uno
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in the debate categories. So eachand every day now i'd spend every day
talking about it, but each andevery day we're going to be talking about
different pieces of that looking ahead anddifferent commentary and your take on what you
you know, what you would beasking if you could ask each candidate,
but what do you want to seeTrump do and not do? So we're
gonna have a little taste of thattoday as well. I'm really really happy
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to see this headline on CNN Newsright now, which is Trump meeting with
VP candidates and advisors to prepare fordebate. That is just music to my
ears because if Donald Trump prepares ina traditional way for this debate, he
will win, and win big.Because of the debate, I mean,
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the Biden. It's kind of likea circus factor with Biden, right he's
not going to be their nominee.It'll be interesting to see what they've got
him jacked up on. And youknow, if he's doing the angry old
man thing, which he will likethe State of the Union. But it's
really not even about Biden. It'sabout people sizing up Trump and are we
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going to get the A Trump?Because if America gets the A Trump next
Thursday, you know, at thatpoint, that's all they need to see.
Because people are smart. I mean, first, the vast majority of
folks who are persuadable don't believe whatthey hear from the left. And they
probably you know, just take witha grain of salt what they hear from
the right, but they believe theireyes, they believe their life, they
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believe what they're feeling and experiencing andeverybody knows they were better off and we
were all better off under Trump,and so now it's just about they want
to size up Trump and see,hey, you know, is he is
he still sharp? Is he stable? You know all those things right that
any reasonable person would want to seebefore they made that decision. So it's
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all about Trump on the twenty seventh. Biden's kind of a circus side show.
And so yeah, when I seethat headline about Trump preparing with advisors
and VP candidates, et cetera,that warms my heart because if he does
traditional preparation, Yeah, if hedecides to just wing it, say a
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prayer, hope for the best,eight five five for is two to five
to five the number text d AN five seven seventh three nine. And
listen, I'm not doubting his improvisationalskills, not at all. He's obviously
a quick, brilliant guy. Hecan be extremely funny. He's got all
these great accomplishments to talk about.I'm not doubting any of that. I'm
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just saying that if you want thea Trump, it's just going to take
that real preparation because this format isthis format, and you got to be
able to deliver within that format.So do you think he's going to prepare
Ryan, I mean, like reallyprepare the way he should. Well,
I cut this quote that you hadme hmm dig out for Maggie Haberman New
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York Times, and she seems toknow him well. For some reason,
he's kept her in his orbit,which I think is much to his detriment.
But that this guy, that's thetype. He doesn't like to study
for a test, right, Hethinks it's kind of wasted time. He
doesn't take it seriously. The preparation. Again, I think that's to his
disadvantage. But maybe the humility mightset in from what happened in that first
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debate against Biden. You pointed itout the time he had COVID it seemed
like he was still in the throesof it, the after effects of it.
He kept interrupting Biden. It wasnot a good look and he needs
to do better than that. Megie'sgot her theory. Do you know in
pastor did he do mock debates?I mean, did he have somebody playing
somebody else? Well, Chris ChristyI played a version of Hillary Clinton and
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he played a version of Biden.In twenty twenty and then twenty sixteen before
that, So yeah, I meanthose were Look, Trump doesn't like prep,
I mean, he considers it school. So the fact that they've gotten
him to do it this way isactually pretty revealing and also speaks to the
fact that I think he knows thatthis has to go well for him.
He has said to people multiple timesthat he knows that he interrupted too much
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in the first debate with Biden intwenty twenty, and having just rewatched that
debate recently, it's really striking.I Mean, we all talked about it
at the time, but Biden couldbarely get a word in edgewise, and
Biden was kind of smiling throughout asthis was happening. Yeah, and I'm
so so glad actually to hear that, right, that the president's aware,
because listen, none of us areperfect, right, no matter how good
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you are or I am, orRyan is, whatever we're best at,
there's still going to be times we'renot our best at whatever we're best at.
And so the fact that Trump hasthis awareness and that people around him
are willing to shoot straight about whenhe screws up, that's great. He's
less likely to repeat it. That'swhy I've been saying it. It really
helps him that they're going to beturning the mic off when it's not your
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turn. I mean that helps himdo what he needs to do that night
to win over the people he needsto win over. And all this talk
about how he's going to wander overthere next to Biden and stand next to
Biden, I think is utter nonsense. Now, speaking of which, this
little tidbit of what seems like triviajust got reported about the debate, and
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I think it's fascinating. Let meask you, Ryan, assuming you haven't
seen it yet, Joe Biden winsthe coin flip. Which has happened?
Did you see that story? Noway, he won the coin flip for
CNN's debate. But but if Icould point the old two sided coin two
headed coins. But here's the questionfor you. We know now that he
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won the coin flip, so hegot the choice between which podium to stand
at the left side or the rightside, or whether he would go last
in the debate. Which do youthink he chose? And why podium position?
Because he wants the same layout thathe had in that first debate that
he won, so that would puthim on the right side of the stage
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as the viewer seeing it. Yeah, he chose podium position, which to
me is really intriguing, and therehad to be a reason behind it,
because giving up the last word isgiving up a lot. Because in a
trial in Colorado, I represent victimsplaintiffs, we have the burden of proof,
so we get to go in closingargument first and last, and that
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ability to go last, and ifthe other side has misrepresented or God bid
lied, to be able to exposethat and blow it up is an enormous
benefit. So Biden gives up theability to go last just to choose which
side of the stage he stands on. I'd love to hear from people on
this. What do you think isbehind that? Da N five seven seven
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three nine or eight five five fourzero five eight two five five the number.
I'm glad he made that decision becauseI'm really glad Trump gets to go
last and responds to nonsense and liesfrom Biden. Yeah, so got that
going for us, right. Theother really really really tremendous development I think
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for Trump pre debate is that thepolls have have turned against him a little
bit, just a little bit.Not talking about some big dramatic swing,
but enough at this point that Ithink it's gonna make him more serious about
the debate prep if he wasn't already, Like the Fox News Paull right,
he'd been a point and now he'sdown two or something like that, And
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you see a number of polls acrossthe board where maybe he's lost a point
or two. So, you know, given given you know this wrongful conviction
on these felony accounts and everything hewas exposed to there, maybe that isn't
a big surprise. My belief isstill that he will benefit tremendously from that
over the course of the campaign.But all I'm saying is I think it's
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good incentive for him to work evenharder to prepare for this debate and to
shine in the debate, because ifhe does that a week from tonight,
Yeah, nothing's ever over till it'sover, right, But that's a big
step toward over. So love tohear from me on all that. We're
going to be talking as well aboutState of Louisiana. Now, first state
to make it mandatory to have theTen Commandments in public school classrooms? Do
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you want to do that here inColorado as well? Eight five five four
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and now back to the Dan Kaplishpodcast. Well, I think given the
song seasons coming up the Ten Commands, who we need to hail Mary,
it would be, you know,much more appropriate for what we face were
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here. I don't know which oneare gonna put up there ten different versions
of there Ten Commandments, and ourschool are so underfunded that I'm not sure
I have the kids even how toread them. James Carville talking about New
Louisiana law that makes it mandatory tohave the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms.
Should we be doing that here inColorado? I'm very much looking forward
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to that conversation with you, andobviously it gets into constitutionality issues. But
for those who say, hey,wait, no, this is long decided
you can't have the Ten Commandments upin that public place or that classroom,
they are just wrong. I mean, that is not the state of law.
You have Supreme Court law on this, and it has come down on
both sides depending upon the particular display. But those who are under the impression
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that the Supremes have said no,you can't post that those Ten Commandments at
a courthouse or in a public school, whatever. It's not that simple.
So we'll get into that in abit eight five to five for zero five
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take one text on that before weget back to the phone lines treated as
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an open lines Thursday. But herewe've got a text, Dan, would
you be fine having passages from theQuran in all of the classrooms? No?
I would not be, and therewould not be a legitimate basis for
that. So if you had thesame law at this point put up passages
from the Quran in all of theclassrooms in Louisiana, I think it'd be
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blatantly unconstitutional because you wouldn't have anyreason to put up passages from the Quran
and all of those Louisiana classrooms unlessit was religiously motivated. And the Supreme
Court has been clear that no.If something is religiously motivated, say the
Ten Commandments. If if the primarymotive for putting the Ten Commandments up in
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those Louisiana courtrooms, I want tosay, Ryan, right when I was
a third grader, it was likea courtroom in there I was judged every
day and usually judged poorly and harshlyby a tremendous teacher, sister, and
felice was a gift from God tomy life. But anyway, that aside.
So if the motivation for putting theTen Commandments up in the classroom is
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primarily religious, no you can't doit. It's on constitutional there's Supreme Court
law on that. But if there'sanother motivation, say a secular moral message,
or they reflect the moral history andtradition of your state, then yes
you can legally put those up.You could not make that argument and you
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know, no disrespect to our Muslimbrothers and sisters, but you could not
make that argument for the Quran becausein the state of Louisiana, just like
the state of Colorado, it isnot is a matter of history, provable
of history. It's not been partof the historical bedrock development of the state
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of Louisiana or the state of Coloradothe Quran. No disrespect to the Koran
or are Muslim fronts. But certainlythe Ten Commandments have been a bedrock part
of the moral tradition and history separateapart from religion. They've just been a
bedrock part of those core moral beliefsof many states. And so if the
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motivation for the display is that,well then it's perfectly legal. And it's
a case by case determination based ona lot of the surrounding facts, et
cetera, as to what is theprimary motivation religious or the underlying moral tradition
of the state, a secular moralmessage, etc. Rosio, you're on
the Dan Capitalist Show. Welcome illDan. Now, as to the ten
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commandments that that I think should beput a you all that that's that's just
enough. One. Now, asto this debate, Trump can play this
really smart and he's a good chessplayer. We know that nine thinks two
moves ahead or three ahead of hisopponent? Is that this with COVID and
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all here under estimated? How isopponent one? Rozsio? Let me ask
you. Let me ask you,Rozsio, is how old are you?
Forty four? Okay? You soundlike a spry forty four? Is there
one Rossio or is there more thanone Rossio? This one? Okay?
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This one okay? And does thatone Rossio have more than one what would
you call it? Personality? Morethan one? M o? Can can
that one rossio be a much differentRossio on a different day. I wear
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many hats dependent on that subject.Okay, see, and thank you for
that, and thank you for agreat call, my friend. Want to
get everybody in. That's the point. Wait a second, Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has different sides, righthe is. There are different versions of
Donald Trump depending on the day.And if we get the disciplined Donald Trump,
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who built a real estate empire,who did the things necessary to become
president of the United States, thosethings that actually caused him to win.
If we get the disciplined, preparedDonald Trump, then that Donald Trump is
going to win, and it's onlya matter of by how much. But
there's also the undisciplined, unprepared wingit Donald Trump. And if we get
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that version, hey, it's goingto be entertaining. But lord knows where
it's going to fall. Right,Am I wrong about that? Ryan Kelly?
Any flaw on that launchic coming,and maybe even more so than any
candidate we've seen in our lifetimes,there are these two Donald Trump's. It
doesn't mean he's not authentic. Infact, authenticity as part of his appeal,
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but there are these dramatically two versionsof Donald Trump, and this debate
outcome will be determined by which onewe get, and that will be determined
not a week from now, That'llbe determined today. Because if it's the
discipline Donald Trump, who's going toprepare the way he did, you know,
to succeed in big business deals,et cetera. That's happening now.
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Well, you just said the keyword discipline. He's always been in one
of his strengths that is a doubleedged sword. That can also be a
weakness. Consistently inconsistent, a maverickykind of unpredictable, volatile element, a
radioactive isotope of swords, and sometimesthat serves to his benefit because you'd be
in jail to Hillary Clinton. Itwas a classic drop to Mike moment that
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came out of nowhere. It washe's got great instincts. But they sorry
to interrupt, but remember the restof that town hall style debate. He
was very, very good throughout.Yes, he was disciplined. You could
tell he was even disciplined about hismovements as opposed to the first debate in
sixteen and in twenty his first debateswere disasters, and then he rallied in
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the later debates in sixteen. Inthe later debate in twenty again, I
would I would be very interested tohear the closed door sessions he has with
his handlers who were helping him toprepare. I got to imagine that will
no longer include Chris Christy, butjust how they're able to harness him,
if at all, because he's soresistant to that. What a great question.
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Who on the face of God's earthwould you get to stand in for
Biden in debate prep. You'd haveto go to they. Tom Shalou from
Guttfeld. He doesn't spot on JoeBiden. Shalou, No, but I'm
talking up. Wait a second,because you've got to You've got to to
be able to be that debate preppartner. You have to have their mannerisms,
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you have to have their pace,you have to talk the way they're
likely to talk. Yeah, Istand by my nomination for that. You
gotta watch Guttfeld. If you havetime for Morning Joe and that crap,
you've got to watch a good showin Gutfeld on Fox News. Dan,
I have limited time, but Ispend it looking at what the opponent is
saying, so you're better prepared toto defeat those arguments. Well, that's
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a good point. Yeah, butI'm just saying you're missing out because this
guy does a spot on Joe Bidenimpersonation. He even has the same face
and he puts make up he lookslike him too. Okay, no,
no, maybe maybe that works.I do want to get to this text,
Dan, outside of a Christian typereligion, where do you find the
Ten Commandments? We are going toteach second graders to not covet thy neighbor's
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wife, give me a break.There is a great answer to that question,
and there's tremendous evidence in examples ofthe Ten Commandments on display all over
America in situations and circumstances that arenot primarily religious. Jeff Crank Next,
you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Showpodcast. Hey, we're talking about state
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Louisiana. First state ever to sayyou've got to have the Ten Commandments displayed
in every public school classroom. Anda lot of people say, hey,
that's automatically unconstitutional, that thing's goingto get struck down, Crickerton whatever.
And I just want people to knowthere's a very very powerful legal argument in
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favor of upholding that Louisiana law.We'll get to that in a bit.
Hey really happy to have Jeff Crankwith us. He's running for Congress.
He's in a Republican primary right nowdown in CD five. He and Dave
Williams are squaring off there. Jeffwant a very enthusiastic endorsement from a paper
I respect greatly. The Colorados bringsgood zet. Hey, Jeff, welcome
back to the Dan Kapla Show.Dan, thanks for having me. It's
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always great to be with you.Well. Appreciate that we've invited Dave as
well separately, and so far I'venot had an acceptance, but the invitation
remains open. So he start withthe state of the race. Man,
can't believe it's almost Tuesday already.Where do things stand? Well, you
know, I can't either. I'mso happy that we're Oh, I bet
listen. I hate primaries. Primariesare terrible. I want to get out
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there and fight the left, youknow, I don't want to fight people
in my own party. But no, I think we're in really good shape
and I feel very good about wherewe are. We've run a great campaign.
We've raised just under six hundred thousanddollars in this primary and about in
you know, just under six monthshere, and you know, we've gotten
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our message out to secure the border, fix the Biden's broken economy, and
you know, keep fighting for people'sfreedom and their liberty. And of course,
Jeff well known to many many peoplein the district from a lot of
years of really good, high qualitytalk radio and other accomplishments. Kind of
curious, how how is that playingout in the race, Like, what
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are you finding out there in thereal world? Your years on air?
Is that making the difference? Ithink it makes well, I think it
does, and I'm glad you broughtthat up. In fact, this will
be encouraging to you for when yourun for Pension of the United States.
Dan, call my wife, thankyou. You know what. I go
around and I knock on doors andpeople will say, you know, I
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got this mail piece about you,but I don't believe it because we've been
friends a long time. Listen toYeah, that's interesting. Yeah, And
you know how people feel when you'reon the radio that they just kind of
have a personal relationship with you thatthey've built over the years, and so
I think that's really helping us.Dave's been pretty nasty. He sent out
stuff. I know there's a malepiece that hit today that I saw,
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and it said that, you know, I'm I'm a never Trumper, and
I'm for amnesty and all this kindof nonsense. Of course none of that
is true, but I think peoplesee through that as nonsense. Oh they
have to, right, Jeff.I mean, I would think anybody who'd
believe, and you see so muchof this now in so many different forms,
in so many different races. Ijust think people believe that kind of
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stuff they get in the mail areprobably already supporting the other guy or gal.
I can't imagine that anybody would lookat something they get in the mail
that makes those kind of allegations andsay, oh, yeah, yeah,
that must be true. I'm goingto vote that way. But no.
And the thing about radio, asyou well know and everybody listening knows because
they choose to listen, is thatthere's nowhere to hide. Right. It's
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not like TV, where okay,you got maybe a thirty second hit and
you can get away with being aphony for thirty seconds, no offense to
our TV friends, most are verygenuine, But radio there's nowhere to hide.
I mean, they're going to knowthe real you, whether they like
it or not. Well, Andyou know what, I spent fourteen years
on radio, and actually longer thanthat if you take some of the guest
hosting time and other shows and stuff. But you know, fourteen years on
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the radio, you would think thatif I was as bad as Dave says
I am, that they would havea lot of clips out there. Are
you being liberal and saying liberal?They don't because I didn't say them,
So they have to kind of makestuff up. Yeah. I can't believe
that's going to work. I can'tbelieve that made up stuff is going to
work in many races anywhere, butespecially not with a guy like you,
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who's so well established in other ways. But it's Jeff Crank for Congress Crink,
Jeff Crank for Congress dot com.So what is kind of the hurt
to hurt elevator pitch say for thosehandful of folks who haven't made up their
mind yet or maybe they're just dialingin because they got a real life and
the primaries and the biggest thing intheir life. Yeah, what do you
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say to him when you've got thirtyseconds? Yeah? Well, first and
foremost, I mean, we've gotto fix the border. And it's a
broken border. We've got a wholeIiden administration accountable for not upholding the law,
and we've got to get it fixed. And I'm for building Donald Trump's
wall. I'm for you knowing moreborder patrol agents and getting border security in
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place. We got to fix Biden'sfolken economy, and you know, it's
hurting Americans. Americans are having tomake difficult choices right now because of bad
decisions by the Biden administration. Andthen lastly, you know, this community,
Colorado Springs in Opaso County is soaffected by the defense industry, and
you know, I just have decadesof experience dealing with that and working to
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keep Fort Carson open and installations inour community, and that stuff matters.
You know, my opponent, hejust doesn't even really talk about those issues
because you know, he knows thathe just doesn't really have any experience and
and just doesn't really care about thoseissues. I'm going to go to DC
and work hard, be a teamplayer, build a larger majority, and
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work with President Trump to advance thatsort of conservative cause, you know,
throughout America, we got to takeour country back. Is Jeff Crankar guest.
You know, I'm only one guy. But the way I always look
at these congressional primaries right where youhave people who maybe are aligned on almost
every major issue, is Okay,which guy or gail is actually going to
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be most effective back there? Andthen I think that's kind of a race
to race determination. But I lookat a guy like you, and there's
every reason to believe that that youwould be about as effective as a congress
person. And obviously, you know, first term congress person in the beginning
can be because of these skills andexperiences and communication abilities and networking that you've
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done, etc. And so thatfor me, I'm always looking at,
okay, you know, talk iskind of cheap, who can actually be
effective on these issues? Yeah,And look, I think that's a real
difference between myself and my opponent.I mean, he's gone out, he's
really curried the favor of sort ofthe Freedom Caucus folks, and he wants
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to go be the bomb thrower.He wants to go blow up the the
you know, the caucus, theHouse of Representatives in a figurative way,
of course, but he wants tobe that guy that's disruptive. I don't
want to go back and fight Republicans. I want to go back and build
a conservative majority to cut spending andto close the border and do these sorts
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of things. And the only waywe can do that is to take a
two seat House majority and make ita twenty seat or a thirty house majority.
Don't I'm not interested in overthrowing thespeaker and having fights and getting on
Twitter. I'm going there to bea team player and to get stuff done
and to work for the American people. Well, I have no doubt you'd
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be great. But hey, appreciatethe time today and good luck. Hey
listen, Dan, You've been great. You've been awesome, always inviting me
on, and you know you're justa beacon of solid conservative you know,
you're just that guy. Well,thank you. Look to so we thank
you. Thank you. My friendthat is Jeff Crank And hey, let's
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talk after Tuesday. You got it. Thank you, Tom, thank you.
Take care. Yeah, so youknow we are blessed Ryan with a
ton of great conservative talent in Colorado. And you know we talked about in
advance of that CD four race upthere where you have a lot of really
really strong candidates and yeah, Ihope that if nothing else, during the
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primaries, it's given some of thepersuadable folks in Colorado who don't wear red
jersey or blue jersey. I hopeit's given them a chance to see that
there is a lot of super sharpconservative talent out there. On that point.
To that point Dan, where Islightly disagree with Jeff is most primaries
I think are productive and they're beneficialfor the voters because, like the fourth
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Congressional race, it properly vets thecandidates. You really get a chance to
see what these individuals are out allabout and make an informed choice. Man,
I am with you on that.I mean, you don't want the
circular firing squad primary where the candidatewho comes out of it is so weak
and they can't win the general.Right, But I think primaries, like
everything in life, you and I, everybody, competition makes us better,
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It makes us sharper, and listen, we're all going to have flaws,
we're all gonna have made mistakes.So primary get that stuff out there,
get it out there before the general, and if the public thinks it's that
big a deal, well then theycan weigh in before the party chooses its
candidate. No, So I'm allfor that. Easy for me to say,
I'm sitting here eating peanut butter.I'm not running a primary. But
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I would say, I'm sitting hereeating eating peanut butter, and nobody's lying
about me. I'm not running primary. I'm sitting here eating peanut butter,
and people are lying about me becauseI do a radio show. But it's
tougher when you're in that arena ina primary. When we come back,
I couldnot wait to talk to youabout this. This state of Louisiana says,
Hey, every public school classroom,you got to put up the Ten
Commandments. You got ACLU and othersgoing crazy saying blatantly unconstitutional. Where do
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you come down on this? First, you know, on the legal piece,
because I'm here to tell you itis not blatantly unconstitutional. I'm not
sure where the supremes will come down, but let's talk about where you want
them to come down. And thenwould you want this in Colorado? Would
you want the Ten Commandments in everypublic school classroom the way Louisiana says to
post him and those details matter.I'll get to those after the break on
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the DANKPLA Show and now back tothe Dan Kaplas Show podcast. I would
not be surprised if somehow these millionsof illegal immigrants, somehow are casting votes
in the swing states to make surethat Joe Biden wins this selection. Because
we know that President Trump is winningon policy. We know that Joe Biden,
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as you guys alluded to earlier,is not going to get through this
debate. It's going to be adisaster. And this is what the Democrats
are going to do. It's goingto be the same way that he won
in twenty twenty. They're going toprime the pump using our resources, this
time our own federal tax dollars,not Mark Zuckerberg's money that was coming in
from Facebook before congress Woman Tenny Therefrom New York kate five to five for
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zero five eight two five five thenumber text d an five seven seven through
nine. If you just joined us, thank you. Maybe you're on your
way to see the Stones, right? Did you know? I was part
of putting on a Rolling Stones concertup at CU Boulder. This is back
in my day up there yet withthe Stones, though I was the only
sober person there. I'm pretty convincedto that other than Barry Barry Fay Barry
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was sober, but I was verysober. Interesting you bring that up and
enjoyed it. Don McClain joined meon my program That's Cool, a writer
of American Pie, and Tom Martinoactually participated in the interview and one of
the things he commented on, soDon's you know, he's coming up in
the eighty Don stiff some contractors orsomething. No, it wasn't because of
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that. No. Tom was areporter at a very young age back in
nineteen sixty eight for a local newspaperin upstate New York, and that's where
Don McLean was playing. So that'sthe nexus of those two. But McLean
swears that clean living, not drinking, not doing drugs, not smoking.
That's how he's been able to keepthe quality and the strength of his voice
all these years. You would haveto believe. I mean, how can
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Jagger even say his name? Buthis voice has always been that way,
and it's always been cool. That'swhat's always been a part of it.
That there some of them are yellersand screamers and like Rod Stewart, and
that's never been really doniclaining style.But yeah, I mean it's a great
point because his voice remains very strongand very consistent. Yeah, I really
wanted to meet those guys and didnot get the chance to stones But yeah,
yeah, did not get the chanceto so I did not get to
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play pinball, for example, whichwith Mick Jagger. But I'll bet it's
a great show tonight. You know, I'm really busy at work tomorrow at
the law firm tomorrow, or Iwould go to that show tonight. I
bet it's a great show. Youknow, those guys will perform great at
their funeral. I think they werejoking and it kind of went along the
lines with the spinal tap Joe thatwe still want to be walking rollers one
with foldy, you know, andlike they and I heard there are coming
(30:45):
up on eighty. Here's the seventies, well into their seventies and doing all
this. Yeah, yeah, itit's just picturing their groupies with the current
group of group. But you know, then it occurred to me it's probably
hasn't changed. Eight five five fourzero five eight two five the number.
Hey, you hear about this Louisianalaw that it's mandatory now to put up
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ten commandments in the classroom, Andyou got a lot of people saying,
slam dunk, they're going to losein court. US Supreme Court said,
no, No, A sitting hereright now, if I was betting you
my golf clubs, which would bea public service if I got rid of
those, if I was betting youmy golf clubs, I would bet you
that this law withstands US Supreme Courtscrutiny, that this law is upheld because
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it is not as simple analysis asmany of the left are making it out
to be right, because they're saying, hey, separation of church and state,
the Ten Commandments, they're inherently religious. You can't go put them up
in a public school classroom. Buthere's what they're missing. And i'll tell
you what I think the US SupremeCourt is going to have to look like.
But really want to hear from youon this. Would you want to
do this in Colorado the way they'redoing it in Louisiana, and the way
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it matters because in Louisiana, yeah, they're putting up the Ten Commandments,
but they're putting up by law thatthey have to put up with the Ten
Commandments a context statement, and thatthe context statement, as I understand it,
is going to point out that,hey, wait a second, that
the Ten Commandments, you know,reflect the moral tradition of the state,
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that the Ten Commandments are foundational documentsof our state and national government. The
contact statement isn't going to say getdown on your knees and pray to the
God I worship. And the simple, truthful, factual matter is that for
most states in this nation, ifnot all, the Ten Commandments in fact
are foundational documents, foundational documents.They are part of the moral tradition of
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the state. If I haven't arguedthere, but I think the US Supreme
Court, I think there's even TenCommandments in the artwork above the US Supreme
Court. And so that's the point. And what happens now in these cases
is is the court, first,the trial court, We'll look at this
and do some fact finding. They'lllook into the motivation behind it, because
that's what the Supreme Court is sofocused on. Is it primarily because everybody,
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we're all human, we all havea bunch of mixed motivations. Is
it primarily a religious motivation behind postingthe Ten Commandments? Or is it primarily
a different motivation? Is it primarilya historic historical motivation, a secular moral
message. So so at the trialcourt level, I imagine they'll be doing
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a lot of e SI discover theelectronically stored information like we do in our
law practice, looking at everybody's emailsand things like that, to see,
Okay, what's the true motivation behindthis. But keep in mind, you
know, you got this whole bodyof Supreme Court law that says, wait,
yeah, yeah, the state can'tgo in and say, hey,
Ryan, you got to be aChristian or you got to be a Buddhist.
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Right, the state can't establish areligion. But also, you know,
you got some pretty big amendments whenit comes to freedom of religion,
starting with numerouno. And the pointis that you cannot be as a constitutional
matter, you cannot be hostile toreligion either. So you can't just say,
oh my goodness, somebody might seethis religiously, we've got to throw
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those ten Commandments out of the parkor out of the school. No,
you can't be openly hostile to religion. So what's the primary motivation here?
Is it religious? If so,then under Supreme Court doctrine, those ten
Commandments will have to come down.But if it is. You know,
hey, this is historic. Thisis a moral tradition of the state.
This goes back to the founding documentsof our state and it gets to stay
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up. So would you want tosee that done here in Colorado? Would
you want a law it says theTen Commandments mandatory in every classroom. You're
on the Den Capital Show.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Wow. A week from today,
right, hard to believe. Probablythe most consequential quote debate that we've had
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in our lifetime. You can argueNixon, Kennedy and yeah, you make
pretty strong argument for that. Butgiven the direction America is going to take,
depending on what whether Trump or theDemocrat nominee it won't be Biden,
whoever it's going to be will be, then, yeah, i'd make the
case a week from today, Junetwenty seven is going to be Numero uno
(00:44):
in the debate categories. So eachand every day now i'd spend every day
talking about it, but each andevery day we're going to be talking about
different pieces of that looking ahead anddifferent commentary and your take on what you
you know, what you would beasking if you could ask each candidate,
but what do you want to seeTrump do and not do? So we're
gonna have a little taste of thattoday as well. I'm really really happy
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to see this headline on CNN Newsright now, which is Trump meeting with
VP candidates and advisors to prepare fordebate. That is just music to my
ears because if Donald Trump prepares ina traditional way for this debate, he
will win, and win big.Because of the debate, I mean,
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the Biden. It's kind of likea circus factor with Biden, right he's
not going to be their nominee.It'll be interesting to see what they've got
him jacked up on. And youknow, if he's doing the angry old
man thing, which he will likethe State of the Union. But it's
really not even about Biden. It'sabout people sizing up Trump and are we
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going to get the A Trump?Because if America gets the A Trump next
Thursday, you know, at thatpoint, that's all they need to see.
Because people are smart. I mean, first, the vast majority of
folks who are persuadable don't believe whatthey hear from the left. And they
probably you know, just take witha grain of salt what they hear from
the right, but they believe theireyes, they believe their life, they
(02:09):
believe what they're feeling and experiencing andeverybody knows they were better off and we
were all better off under Trump,and so now it's just about they want
to size up Trump and see,hey, you know, is he is
he still sharp? Is he stable? You know all those things right that
any reasonable person would want to seebefore they made that decision. So it's
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all about Trump on the twenty seventh. Biden's kind of a circus side show.
And so yeah, when I seethat headline about Trump preparing with advisors
and VP candidates, et cetera,that warms my heart because if he does
traditional preparation, Yeah, if hedecides to just wing it, say a
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prayer, hope for the best,eight five five for is two to five
to five the number text d AN five seven seventh three nine. And
listen, I'm not doubting his improvisationalskills, not at all. He's obviously
a quick, brilliant guy. Hecan be extremely funny. He's got all
these great accomplishments to talk about.I'm not doubting any of that. I'm
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just saying that if you want thea Trump, it's just going to take
that real preparation because this format isthis format, and you got to be
able to deliver within that format.So do you think he's going to prepare
Ryan, I mean, like reallyprepare the way he should. Well,
I cut this quote that you hadme hmm dig out for Maggie Haberman New
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York Times, and she seems toknow him well. For some reason,
he's kept her in his orbit,which I think is much to his detriment.
But that this guy, that's thetype. He doesn't like to study
for a test, right, Hethinks it's kind of wasted time. He
doesn't take it seriously. The preparation. Again, I think that's to his
disadvantage. But maybe the humility mightset in from what happened in that first
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debate against Biden. You pointed itout the time he had COVID it seemed
like he was still in the throesof it, the after effects of it.
He kept interrupting Biden. It wasnot a good look and he needs
to do better than that. Megie'sgot her theory. Do you know in
pastor did he do mock debates?I mean, did he have somebody playing
somebody else? Well, Chris ChristyI played a version of Hillary Clinton and
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he played a version of Biden.In twenty twenty and then twenty sixteen before
that, So yeah, I meanthose were Look, Trump doesn't like prep,
I mean, he considers it school. So the fact that they've gotten
him to do it this way isactually pretty revealing and also speaks to the
fact that I think he knows thatthis has to go well for him.
He has said to people multiple timesthat he knows that he interrupted too much
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in the first debate with Biden intwenty twenty, and having just rewatched that
debate recently, it's really striking.I Mean, we all talked about it
at the time, but Biden couldbarely get a word in edgewise, and
Biden was kind of smiling throughout asthis was happening. Yeah, and I'm
so so glad actually to hear that, right, that the president's aware,
because listen, none of us areperfect, right, no matter how good
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you are or I am, orRyan is, whatever we're best at,
there's still going to be times we'renot our best at whatever we're best at.
And so the fact that Trump hasthis awareness and that people around him
are willing to shoot straight about whenhe screws up, that's great. He's
less likely to repeat it. That'swhy I've been saying it. It really
helps him that they're going to beturning the mic off when it's not your
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turn. I mean that helps himdo what he needs to do that night
to win over the people he needsto win over. And all this talk
about how he's going to wander overthere next to Biden and stand next to
Biden, I think is utter nonsense. Now, speaking of which, this
little tidbit of what seems like triviajust got reported about the debate, and
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I think it's fascinating. Let meask you, Ryan, assuming you haven't
seen it yet, Joe Biden winsthe coin flip. Which has happened?
Did you see that story? Noway, he won the coin flip for
CNN's debate. But but if Icould point the old two sided coin two
headed coins. But here's the questionfor you. We know now that he
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won the coin flip, so hegot the choice between which podium to stand
at the left side or the rightside, or whether he would go last
in the debate. Which do youthink he chose? And why podium position?
Because he wants the same layout thathe had in that first debate that
he won, so that would puthim on the right side of the stage
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as the viewer seeing it. Yeah, he chose podium position, which to
me is really intriguing, and therehad to be a reason behind it,
because giving up the last word isgiving up a lot. Because in a
trial in Colorado, I represent victimsplaintiffs, we have the burden of proof,
so we get to go in closingargument first and last, and that
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ability to go last, and ifthe other side has misrepresented or God bid
lied, to be able to exposethat and blow it up is an enormous
benefit. So Biden gives up theability to go last just to choose which
side of the stage he stands on. I'd love to hear from people on
this. What do you think isbehind that? Da N five seven seven
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three nine or eight five five fourzero five eight two five five the number.
I'm glad he made that decision becauseI'm really glad Trump gets to go
last and responds to nonsense and liesfrom Biden. Yeah, so got that
going for us, right. Theother really really really tremendous development I think
(07:39):
for Trump pre debate is that thepolls have have turned against him a little
bit, just a little bit.Not talking about some big dramatic swing,
but enough at this point that Ithink it's gonna make him more serious about
the debate prep if he wasn't already, Like the Fox News Paull right,
he'd been a point and now he'sdown two or something like that, And
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you see a number of polls acrossthe board where maybe he's lost a point
or two. So, you know, given given you know this wrongful conviction
on these felony accounts and everything hewas exposed to there, maybe that isn't
a big surprise. My belief isstill that he will benefit tremendously from that
over the course of the campaign.But all I'm saying is I think it's
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good incentive for him to work evenharder to prepare for this debate and to
shine in the debate, because ifhe does that a week from tonight,
Yeah, nothing's ever over till it'sover, right, But that's a big
step toward over. So love tohear from me on all that. We're
going to be talking as well aboutState of Louisiana. Now, first state
to make it mandatory to have theTen Commandments in public school classrooms? Do
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you want to do that here inColorado as well? Eight five five four
zero five A two five five techsd A N five seven seven three nine
and now back to the Dan Kaplishpodcast. Well, I think given the
song seasons coming up the Ten Commands, who we need to hail Mary,
it would be, you know,much more appropriate for what we face were
(09:11):
here. I don't know which oneare gonna put up there ten different versions
of there Ten Commandments, and ourschool are so underfunded that I'm not sure
I have the kids even how toread them. James Carville talking about New
Louisiana law that makes it mandatory tohave the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms.
Should we be doing that here inColorado? I'm very much looking forward
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to that conversation with you, andobviously it gets into constitutionality issues. But
for those who say, hey,wait, no, this is long decided
you can't have the Ten Commandments upin that public place or that classroom,
they are just wrong. I mean, that is not the state of law.
You have Supreme Court law on this, and it has come down on
both sides depending upon the particular display. But those who are under the impression
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that the Supremes have said no,you can't post that those Ten Commandments at
a courthouse or in a public school, whatever. It's not that simple.
So we'll get into that in abit eight five to five for zero five
A two five five the number textDN five seven seven three nine. I
take one text on that before weget back to the phone lines treated as
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an open lines Thursday. But herewe've got a text, Dan, would
you be fine having passages from theQuran in all of the classrooms? No?
I would not be, and therewould not be a legitimate basis for
that. So if you had thesame law at this point put up passages
from the Quran in all of theclassrooms in Louisiana, I think it'd be
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blatantly unconstitutional because you wouldn't have anyreason to put up passages from the Quran
and all of those Louisiana classrooms unlessit was religiously motivated. And the Supreme
Court has been clear that no.If something is religiously motivated, say the
Ten Commandments. If if the primarymotive for putting the Ten Commandments up in
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those Louisiana courtrooms, I want tosay, Ryan, right when I was
a third grader, it was likea courtroom in there I was judged every
day and usually judged poorly and harshlyby a tremendous teacher, sister, and
felice was a gift from God tomy life. But anyway, that aside.
So if the motivation for putting theTen Commandments up in the classroom is
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primarily religious, no you can't doit. It's on constitutional there's Supreme Court
law on that. But if there'sanother motivation, say a secular moral message,
or they reflect the moral history andtradition of your state, then yes
you can legally put those up.You could not make that argument and you
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know, no disrespect to our Muslimbrothers and sisters, but you could not
make that argument for the Quran becausein the state of Louisiana, just like
the state of Colorado, it isnot is a matter of history, provable
of history. It's not been partof the historical bedrock development of the state
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of Louisiana or the state of Coloradothe Quran. No disrespect to the Koran
or are Muslim fronts. But certainlythe Ten Commandments have been a bedrock part
of the moral tradition and history separateapart from religion. They've just been a
bedrock part of those core moral beliefsof many states. And so if the
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motivation for the display is that,well then it's perfectly legal. And it's
a case by case determination based ona lot of the surrounding facts, et
cetera, as to what is theprimary motivation religious or the underlying moral tradition
of the state, a secular moralmessage, etc. Rosio, you're on
the Dan Capitalist Show. Welcome illDan. Now, as to the ten
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commandments that that I think should beput a you all that that's that's just
enough. One. Now, asto this debate, Trump can play this
really smart and he's a good chessplayer. We know that nine thinks two
moves ahead or three ahead of hisopponent? Is that this with COVID and
(13:24):
all here under estimated? How isopponent one? Rozsio? Let me ask
you. Let me ask you,Rozsio, is how old are you?
Forty four? Okay? You soundlike a spry forty four? Is there
one Rossio or is there more thanone Rossio? This one? Okay?
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This one okay? And does thatone Rossio have more than one what would
you call it? Personality? Morethan one? M o? Can can
that one rossio be a much differentRossio on a different day. I wear
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many hats dependent on that subject.Okay, see, and thank you for
that, and thank you for agreat call, my friend. Want to
get everybody in. That's the point. Wait a second, Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has different sides, righthe is. There are different versions of
Donald Trump depending on the day.And if we get the disciplined Donald Trump,
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who built a real estate empire,who did the things necessary to become
president of the United States, thosethings that actually caused him to win.
If we get the disciplined, preparedDonald Trump, then that Donald Trump is
going to win, and it's onlya matter of by how much. But
there's also the undisciplined, unprepared wingit Donald Trump. And if we get
(15:01):
that version, hey, it's goingto be entertaining. But lord knows where
it's going to fall. Right,Am I wrong about that? Ryan Kelly?
Any flaw on that launchic coming,and maybe even more so than any
candidate we've seen in our lifetimes,there are these two Donald Trump's. It
doesn't mean he's not authentic. Infact, authenticity as part of his appeal,
(15:22):
but there are these dramatically two versionsof Donald Trump, and this debate
outcome will be determined by which onewe get, and that will be determined
not a week from now, That'llbe determined today. Because if it's the
discipline Donald Trump, who's going toprepare the way he did, you know,
to succeed in big business deals,et cetera. That's happening now.
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Well, you just said the keyword discipline. He's always been in one
of his strengths that is a doubleedged sword. That can also be a
weakness. Consistently inconsistent, a maverickykind of unpredictable, volatile element, a
radioactive isotope of swords, and sometimesthat serves to his benefit because you'd be
in jail to Hillary Clinton. Itwas a classic drop to Mike moment that
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came out of nowhere. It washe's got great instincts. But they sorry
to interrupt, but remember the restof that town hall style debate. He
was very, very good throughout.Yes, he was disciplined. You could
tell he was even disciplined about hismovements as opposed to the first debate in
sixteen and in twenty his first debateswere disasters, and then he rallied in
(16:30):
the later debates in sixteen. Inthe later debate in twenty again, I
would I would be very interested tohear the closed door sessions he has with
his handlers who were helping him toprepare. I got to imagine that will
no longer include Chris Christy, butjust how they're able to harness him,
if at all, because he's soresistant to that. What a great question.
(16:52):
Who on the face of God's earthwould you get to stand in for
Biden in debate prep. You'd haveto go to they. Tom Shalou from
Guttfeld. He doesn't spot on JoeBiden. Shalou, No, but I'm
talking up. Wait a second,because you've got to You've got to to
be able to be that debate preppartner. You have to have their mannerisms,
(17:14):
you have to have their pace,you have to talk the way they're
likely to talk. Yeah, Istand by my nomination for that. You
gotta watch Guttfeld. If you havetime for Morning Joe and that crap,
you've got to watch a good showin Gutfeld on Fox News. Dan,
I have limited time, but Ispend it looking at what the opponent is
saying, so you're better prepared toto defeat those arguments. Well, that's
(17:36):
a good point. Yeah, butI'm just saying you're missing out because this
guy does a spot on Joe Bidenimpersonation. He even has the same face
and he puts make up he lookslike him too. Okay, no,
no, maybe maybe that works.I do want to get to this text,
Dan, outside of a Christian typereligion, where do you find the
Ten Commandments? We are going toteach second graders to not covet thy neighbor's
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wife, give me a break.There is a great answer to that question,
and there's tremendous evidence in examples ofthe Ten Commandments on display all over
America in situations and circumstances that arenot primarily religious. Jeff Crank Next,
you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Showpodcast. Hey, we're talking about state
(18:19):
Louisiana. First state ever to sayyou've got to have the Ten Commandments displayed
in every public school classroom. Anda lot of people say, hey,
that's automatically unconstitutional, that thing's goingto get struck down, Crickerton whatever.
And I just want people to knowthere's a very very powerful legal argument in
(18:41):
favor of upholding that Louisiana law.We'll get to that in a bit.
Hey really happy to have Jeff Crankwith us. He's running for Congress.
He's in a Republican primary right nowdown in CD five. He and Dave
Williams are squaring off there. Jeffwant a very enthusiastic endorsement from a paper
I respect greatly. The Colorados bringsgood zet. Hey, Jeff, welcome
back to the Dan Kapla Show.Dan, thanks for having me. It's
(19:04):
always great to be with you.Well. Appreciate that we've invited Dave as
well separately, and so far I'venot had an acceptance, but the invitation
remains open. So he start withthe state of the race. Man,
can't believe it's almost Tuesday already.Where do things stand? Well, you
know, I can't either. I'mso happy that we're Oh, I bet
listen. I hate primaries. Primariesare terrible. I want to get out
(19:27):
there and fight the left, youknow, I don't want to fight people
in my own party. But no, I think we're in really good shape
and I feel very good about wherewe are. We've run a great campaign.
We've raised just under six hundred thousanddollars in this primary and about in
you know, just under six monthshere, and you know, we've gotten
(19:48):
our message out to secure the border, fix the Biden's broken economy, and
you know, keep fighting for people'sfreedom and their liberty. And of course,
Jeff well known to many many peoplein the district from a lot of
years of really good, high qualitytalk radio and other accomplishments. Kind of
curious, how how is that playingout in the race, Like, what
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are you finding out there in thereal world? Your years on air?
Is that making the difference? Ithink it makes well, I think it
does, and I'm glad you broughtthat up. In fact, this will
be encouraging to you for when yourun for Pension of the United States.
Dan, call my wife, thankyou. You know what. I go
around and I knock on doors andpeople will say, you know, I
(20:32):
got this mail piece about you,but I don't believe it because we've been
friends a long time. Listen toYeah, that's interesting. Yeah, And
you know how people feel when you'reon the radio that they just kind of
have a personal relationship with you thatthey've built over the years, and so
I think that's really helping us.Dave's been pretty nasty. He sent out
stuff. I know there's a malepiece that hit today that I saw,
(20:52):
and it said that, you know, I'm I'm a never Trumper, and
I'm for amnesty and all this kindof nonsense. Of course none of that
is true, but I think peoplesee through that as nonsense. Oh they
have to, right, Jeff.I mean, I would think anybody who'd
believe, and you see so muchof this now in so many different forms,
in so many different races. Ijust think people believe that kind of
(21:15):
stuff they get in the mail areprobably already supporting the other guy or gal.
I can't imagine that anybody would lookat something they get in the mail
that makes those kind of allegations andsay, oh, yeah, yeah,
that must be true. I'm goingto vote that way. But no.
And the thing about radio, asyou well know and everybody listening knows because
they choose to listen, is thatthere's nowhere to hide. Right. It's
(21:36):
not like TV, where okay,you got maybe a thirty second hit and
you can get away with being aphony for thirty seconds, no offense to
our TV friends, most are verygenuine, But radio there's nowhere to hide.
I mean, they're going to knowthe real you, whether they like
it or not. Well, Andyou know what, I spent fourteen years
on radio, and actually longer thanthat if you take some of the guest
hosting time and other shows and stuff. But you know, fourteen years on
(21:59):
the radio, you would think thatif I was as bad as Dave says
I am, that they would havea lot of clips out there. Are
you being liberal and saying liberal?They don't because I didn't say them,
So they have to kind of makestuff up. Yeah. I can't believe
that's going to work. I can'tbelieve that made up stuff is going to
work in many races anywhere, butespecially not with a guy like you,
(22:21):
who's so well established in other ways. But it's Jeff Crank for Congress Crink,
Jeff Crank for Congress dot com.So what is kind of the hurt
to hurt elevator pitch say for thosehandful of folks who haven't made up their
mind yet or maybe they're just dialingin because they got a real life and
the primaries and the biggest thing intheir life. Yeah, what do you
(22:42):
say to him when you've got thirtyseconds? Yeah? Well, first and
foremost, I mean, we've gotto fix the border. And it's a
broken border. We've got a wholeIiden administration accountable for not upholding the law,
and we've got to get it fixed. And I'm for building Donald Trump's
wall. I'm for you knowing moreborder patrol agents and getting border security in
(23:03):
place. We got to fix Biden'sfolken economy, and you know, it's
hurting Americans. Americans are having tomake difficult choices right now because of bad
decisions by the Biden administration. Andthen lastly, you know, this community,
Colorado Springs in Opaso County is soaffected by the defense industry, and
you know, I just have decadesof experience dealing with that and working to
(23:26):
keep Fort Carson open and installations inour community, and that stuff matters.
You know, my opponent, hejust doesn't even really talk about those issues
because you know, he knows thathe just doesn't really have any experience and
and just doesn't really care about thoseissues. I'm going to go to DC
and work hard, be a teamplayer, build a larger majority, and
(23:48):
work with President Trump to advance thatsort of conservative cause, you know,
throughout America, we got to takeour country back. Is Jeff Crankar guest.
You know, I'm only one guy. But the way I always look
at these congressional primaries right where youhave people who maybe are aligned on almost
every major issue, is Okay,which guy or gail is actually going to
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be most effective back there? Andthen I think that's kind of a race
to race determination. But I lookat a guy like you, and there's
every reason to believe that that youwould be about as effective as a congress
person. And obviously, you know, first term congress person in the beginning
can be because of these skills andexperiences and communication abilities and networking that you've
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done, etc. And so thatfor me, I'm always looking at,
okay, you know, talk iskind of cheap, who can actually be
effective on these issues? Yeah,And look, I think that's a real
difference between myself and my opponent.I mean, he's gone out, he's
really curried the favor of sort ofthe Freedom Caucus folks, and he wants
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to go be the bomb thrower.He wants to go blow up the the
you know, the caucus, theHouse of Representatives in a figurative way,
of course, but he wants tobe that guy that's disruptive. I don't
want to go back and fight Republicans. I want to go back and build
a conservative majority to cut spending andto close the border and do these sorts
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of things. And the only waywe can do that is to take a
two seat House majority and make ita twenty seat or a thirty house majority.
Don't I'm not interested in overthrowing thespeaker and having fights and getting on
Twitter. I'm going there to bea team player and to get stuff done
and to work for the American people. Well, I have no doubt you'd
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be great. But hey, appreciatethe time today and good luck. Hey
listen, Dan, You've been great. You've been awesome, always inviting me
on, and you know you're justa beacon of solid conservative you know,
you're just that guy. Well,thank you. Look to so we thank
you. Thank you. My friendthat is Jeff Crank And hey, let's
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talk after Tuesday. You got it. Thank you, Tom, thank you.
Take care. Yeah, so youknow we are blessed Ryan with a
ton of great conservative talent in Colorado. And you know we talked about in
advance of that CD four race upthere where you have a lot of really
really strong candidates and yeah, Ihope that if nothing else, during the
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primaries, it's given some of thepersuadable folks in Colorado who don't wear red
jersey or blue jersey. I hopeit's given them a chance to see that
there is a lot of super sharpconservative talent out there. On that point.
To that point Dan, where Islightly disagree with Jeff is most primaries
I think are productive and they're beneficialfor the voters because, like the fourth
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Congressional race, it properly vets thecandidates. You really get a chance to
see what these individuals are out allabout and make an informed choice. Man,
I am with you on that.I mean, you don't want the
circular firing squad primary where the candidatewho comes out of it is so weak
and they can't win the general.Right, But I think primaries, like
everything in life, you and I, everybody, competition makes us better,
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It makes us sharper, and listen, we're all going to have flaws,
we're all gonna have made mistakes.So primary get that stuff out there,
get it out there before the general, and if the public thinks it's that
big a deal, well then theycan weigh in before the party chooses its
candidate. No, So I'm allfor that. Easy for me to say,
I'm sitting here eating peanut butter.I'm not running a primary. But
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I would say, I'm sitting hereeating eating peanut butter, and nobody's lying
about me. I'm not running primary. I'm sitting here eating peanut butter,
and people are lying about me becauseI do a radio show. But it's
tougher when you're in that arena ina primary. When we come back,
I couldnot wait to talk to youabout this. This state of Louisiana says,
Hey, every public school classroom,you got to put up the Ten
Commandments. You got ACLU and othersgoing crazy saying blatantly unconstitutional. Where do
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you come down on this? First, you know, on the legal piece,
because I'm here to tell you itis not blatantly unconstitutional. I'm not
sure where the supremes will come down, but let's talk about where you want
them to come down. And thenwould you want this in Colorado? Would
you want the Ten Commandments in everypublic school classroom the way Louisiana says to
post him and those details matter.I'll get to those after the break on
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the DANKPLA Show and now back tothe Dan Kaplas Show podcast. I would
not be surprised if somehow these millionsof illegal immigrants, somehow are casting votes
in the swing states to make surethat Joe Biden wins this selection. Because
we know that President Trump is winningon policy. We know that Joe Biden,
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as you guys alluded to earlier,is not going to get through this
debate. It's going to be adisaster. And this is what the Democrats
are going to do. It's goingto be the same way that he won
in twenty twenty. They're going toprime the pump using our resources, this
time our own federal tax dollars,not Mark Zuckerberg's money that was coming in
from Facebook before congress Woman Tenny Therefrom New York kate five to five for
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zero five eight two five five thenumber text d an five seven seven through
nine. If you just joined us, thank you. Maybe you're on your
way to see the Stones, right? Did you know? I was part
of putting on a Rolling Stones concertup at CU Boulder. This is back
in my day up there yet withthe Stones, though I was the only
sober person there. I'm pretty convincedto that other than Barry Barry Fay Barry
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was sober, but I was verysober. Interesting you bring that up and
enjoyed it. Don McClain joined meon my program That's Cool, a writer
of American Pie, and Tom Martinoactually participated in the interview and one of
the things he commented on, soDon's you know, he's coming up in
the eighty Don stiff some contractors orsomething. No, it wasn't because of
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that. No. Tom was areporter at a very young age back in
nineteen sixty eight for a local newspaperin upstate New York, and that's where
Don McLean was playing. So that'sthe nexus of those two. But McLean
swears that clean living, not drinking, not doing drugs, not smoking.
That's how he's been able to keepthe quality and the strength of his voice
all these years. You would haveto believe. I mean, how can
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Jagger even say his name? Buthis voice has always been that way,
and it's always been cool. That'swhat's always been a part of it.
That there some of them are yellersand screamers and like Rod Stewart, and
that's never been really doniclaining style.But yeah, I mean it's a great
point because his voice remains very strongand very consistent. Yeah, I really
wanted to meet those guys and didnot get the chance to stones But yeah,
yeah, did not get the chanceto so I did not get to
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play pinball, for example, whichwith Mick Jagger. But I'll bet it's
a great show tonight. You know, I'm really busy at work tomorrow at
the law firm tomorrow, or Iwould go to that show tonight. I
bet it's a great show. Youknow, those guys will perform great at
their funeral. I think they werejoking and it kind of went along the
lines with the spinal tap Joe thatwe still want to be walking rollers one
with foldy, you know, andlike they and I heard there are coming
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up on eighty. Here's the seventies, well into their seventies and doing all
this. Yeah, yeah, itit's just picturing their groupies with the current
group of group. But you know, then it occurred to me it's probably
hasn't changed. Eight five five fourzero five eight two five the number.
Hey, you hear about this Louisianalaw that it's mandatory now to put up
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ten commandments in the classroom, Andyou got a lot of people saying,
slam dunk, they're going to losein court. US Supreme Court said,
no, No, A sitting hereright now, if I was betting you
my golf clubs, which would bea public service if I got rid of
those, if I was betting youmy golf clubs, I would bet you
that this law withstands US Supreme Courtscrutiny, that this law is upheld because
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it is not as simple analysis asmany of the left are making it out
to be right, because they're saying, hey, separation of church and state,
the Ten Commandments, they're inherently religious. You can't go put them up
in a public school classroom. Buthere's what they're missing. And i'll tell
you what I think the US SupremeCourt is going to have to look like.
But really want to hear from youon this. Would you want to
do this in Colorado the way they'redoing it in Louisiana, and the way
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it matters because in Louisiana, yeah, they're putting up the Ten Commandments,
but they're putting up by law thatthey have to put up with the Ten
Commandments a context statement, and thatthe context statement, as I understand it,
is going to point out that,hey, wait a second, that
the Ten Commandments, you know,reflect the moral tradition of the state,
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that the Ten Commandments are foundational documentsof our state and national government. The
contact statement isn't going to say getdown on your knees and pray to the
God I worship. And the simple, truthful, factual matter is that for
most states in this nation, ifnot all, the Ten Commandments in fact
are foundational documents, foundational documents.They are part of the moral tradition of
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the state. If I haven't arguedthere, but I think the US Supreme
Court, I think there's even TenCommandments in the artwork above the US Supreme
Court. And so that's the point. And what happens now in these cases
is is the court, first,the trial court, We'll look at this
and do some fact finding. They'lllook into the motivation behind it, because
that's what the Supreme Court is sofocused on. Is it primarily because everybody,
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we're all human, we all havea bunch of mixed motivations. Is
it primarily a religious motivation behind postingthe Ten Commandments? Or is it primarily
a different motivation? Is it primarilya historic historical motivation, a secular moral
message. So so at the trialcourt level, I imagine they'll be doing
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a lot of e SI discover theelectronically stored information like we do in our
law practice, looking at everybody's emailsand things like that, to see,
Okay, what's the true motivation behindthis. But keep in mind, you
know, you got this whole bodyof Supreme Court law that says, wait,
yeah, yeah, the state can'tgo in and say, hey,
Ryan, you got to be aChristian or you got to be a Buddhist.
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Right, the state can't establish areligion. But also, you know,
you got some pretty big amendments whenit comes to freedom of religion,
starting with numerouno. And the pointis that you cannot be as a constitutional
matter, you cannot be hostile toreligion either. So you can't just say,
oh my goodness, somebody might seethis religiously, we've got to throw
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those ten Commandments out of the parkor out of the school. No,
you can't be openly hostile to religion. So what's the primary motivation here?
Is it religious? If so,then under Supreme Court doctrine, those ten
Commandments will have to come down.But if it is. You know,
hey, this is historic. Thisis a moral tradition of the state.
This goes back to the founding documentsof our state and it gets to stay
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up. So would you want tosee that done here in Colorado? Would
you want a law it says theTen Commandments mandatory in every classroom. You're
on the Den Capital Show.
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