Dems may have won the battle in Tuesday night's election results, but Dan contends Zohran Mamdani's victory will have a short shelf-life as Republicans will benefit in the long-term from the Democratic Socialist's policies - which will surely fail.
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R, CO-3) joins the program to discuss the effect of Democrat victories nationwide, along with a controversy involving ICE in his own district.
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R, CO-3) joins the program to discuss the effect of Democrat victories nationwide, along with a controversy involving ICE in his own district.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
A more important time to fight for the American way, right.
Glad you are here today. Three h three seven one
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I think a day and.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Night of revelations I think politically for me, and having
watched this scene for so long, out done a show
like this for decades, last night and today just incredibly
revealing about where we're adding Colorado and where we need
to go and how to get there. So anxious to
have that conversation with you nationally. To me, very crystallizing
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and revealing as well, and even more reason to be
optimistic long term. And as you know, I went into
yesterday and the day before yesterday, and every day since
November election day of last year, very very optimistic. So
want to break all of that down three or three
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five seven seven three nine and our prescheduled conversation with
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Congressman Jeff Heard from the third CD in Colorado is
just incredibly timely today because I think that topic ties into,
you know, the bigger question of, Okay, how do we
continue to save America as the Trump voters did in
sixteen and then again in twenty four, and then where
does it go beyond that? Because Congressman Heard of beyond
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to talk with us in part about the detention of
family in Durango, that that drew a bunch of protesters,
some arrest, everything else became kind of a flashpoint. You
haven't seen much in the news on it the last
few days, but his take on that and his take
on just kind of the politics of all this, and
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I use politics in the broader community decision making sense
and not the more narrow artisan type take.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Of arrest and detention of folks here illegally who have
not committed additional crimes, which obviously is a flashpoint issue
right now within the Republican Party. There's some division on that,
obviously division within the White House itself. Well, let me
take that back, division within Ice itself, which then led
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to a big shake up a week ago. So we'll
have a good talk with Congressman Jeff heard about that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think clear takeaway.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I didn't have the pleasure of hearing Ryan's show, which
he does, as you know, in the Denver market each
day so well from two to four. So I don't
know where you came down on all of this, Ryan,
but I think it's very clear that Colorado has reached
a new depth of blue, its deepest shade of blue.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In any of our lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's not quite California blue at this point, but it's close.
And so the conversation a little bit of conversation about
how did we get there, because we got an that
in order to figure out how to overcome this, dig
ourselves out and save the state. But I don't think
there's any question that is where we're at right now
based on those results last night, combined with everything else
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right because you never want to overread one set of results,
but pretty clear message all of that. Three oh three
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your take on.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That message as well.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But let me start with this Mandani business, because that's
what we spent a lot of the show on yesterday.
Wasn't hard to predict I was going to win, but
we anticipated that and we were just looking ahead. And
it is going to be exactly what I promised you
yesterday and the day before and the day before that.
The election of Mandani is going to be a great
thing for Republicans nationwide. It's second right now in terms of,
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you know, benefit to Republicans only to the success of
Donald Trump, because it's to open a lot of Democrat eyes.
As a former Democrat, I garn blanket to you, they're
an awful lot of people voting Democrat who.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Has no idea. They have no idea the fact that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The Democratic Party has gone to all out socialism in
many pockets. They don't admit that openly the way Mom
Donnie does. But now the face of the Democratic Party
is an admitted, un apologetic socialist who I think can
fairly be called a communist, but just to keep it clean,
let's say socialist. And that's going to be a real
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eye opener for a lot of Democrats. But the main
point I wanted to make today in the fresh point
is that that was not a victory speech by Mom
Donnie last night. That was a concession speech by Mom Donnie.
The speech he gave last night was conceding that he
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will fail as mayor of New York and that New
York will fail under him.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's the speech he gave last night.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Because you only give the kind of defiant, double middle
finger f you and the horse you rode in.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
On kind of speech he gave last night.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
If you know you are going to fail, if you
have conceded the city is going to fail under you,
If your mission is for.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The city to succeed, then you give the opposite of this.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Speech Mom Donnie gave last night, which was and I'll
start with this one, which was just flat out taunting
and tempting and begging Trump to come to New York
and enforce immigration laws. And so what you'll see as
this sound unfolds is that Mom Donnie's plan, I'm sure
going into the campaign and now certainly that he's won,
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his plan has nothing to do with making New York
better and making life better for New Yorkers and having
New York succeed in classic terms and the way most
people would define success.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's all about Mom Donnie. It's all about making him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm a worldwide socialist hero. It's all about him, elevating
him and making him welcome across the globes for future
book deals, for future lucrative business deals, and then just personally,
you know, as a hero, a socialist hero. Because that's
the kind of speech he gave last night. It was
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a speech that he knew, he had to know would
actually hurt New York, hurt New Yorkers, hurt the New
Yorkers who voted for him. Let's start with cut fifteen place.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
New York will.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants,
powered by immigrants, and as of to night, led by
an immigrant. So hear me, President Trump, when I say this,
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to get to any of us, you will have to
get through all of us.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now interesting, Obviously that's radical, and that is designed to
cause a war with Trump. It's designed to get Trump
to cut off funds to New York. It's designed to
get Trump to flood New York with ice agents.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, So it is. It is designed to.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Elevate Mom Donnie to the level of Trump and to
make it a Mom Donnie versus Trump fight, which is
very bad for New York and all the citizens of
New York. But very good for Mom Donnie in terms
of his worldwide persona, which is all he cares about
at this point. So that's what that was all about.
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But tell me how that's going to help the typical
New Yorker. It's not the interesting twist on that rine
is as openly radical and defiant and bad for New
York as that was, it wasn't as radical as Mike
Johnston in Denver, because remember Mike Johnston in Denver. Mike
Johnston in Denver went a step further than Mom Donnie.
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He not only taunted Trump, and he not only you know,
wanted to elevate his own national profile by taking on
Trump very visibly, he said. Johnston said he would send
you know, Denver's finess to the county line to take
on federal forces. And he called for tens of thousands
of Denver rights to take to the streets to oppose
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the enforcement of federal laws. So Johnston in different kind
of packaging, you know, in terms of his delivery, et cetera.
Johnston actually took on a more radical position than Mom Donnie,
which is hard to imagine. But once again, as I
said at the time, what Johnston did, he had to know,
would hurt Denver, would hurt the people of Denver, would
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hurt the ability of Denver to get federal funds, etc.
But he didn't care for Johnston, just like Mom Donnie.
It's all about elevating the national profile. In the case
of Mom Donnie, his worldwide profile among socialists worldwide.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So when we come back, I want to get just
some more of that sound.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's fascinating, but it also should give you great comfort
that again the face of the Democratic Party now is
an open avowed socialist. That can only be good for
the Republicans in most places in the country, maybe not Colorado.
And what do you think about this Democrat Civil War
clearly won by the socialist wing of the party.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Now what do you think that'll mean in Colorado? And
am I right?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is Colorado now the deepest shade of blue? It's ever
been very close to California blue? And most important, what's
the road back? Because we don't have a right to quit.
It would be a moral to quit, you know, it's
an honor to have the chance to fight when Colorado
is at its lowest point.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So what is that road back? Here on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
rise to him. And if there is any way to
terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions
that allowed him to accumulate power. This is not only
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how we stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I know, he's an accomplished guy, he just won the
Melitaries in New York.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But he's talking like a nut job.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, he's like the Ward Churchill right now of
socialism in America. He's it's just like stuff he read
out of some book. And it's middle of the night.
It's three am, and they're all doing hits or something,
So bring it on. I mean, this guy poses no
threat at all, no threat at all to America. Now,
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New York's gonna really hurt under him, and I feel
for those people, but good things will come of it
because they won't make that mistake again in the future.
But for the nation, Mom, Donnie is a gift to conservatives,
not just for the obvious reasons or that he's going
to open eye to who the Democrats leader really is now.
But because he's harmless, he's the canary in the coal mine.
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You know, God forbid, and I'm glad he has. God
forbid that the big Socialists breakthrough would actually be somebody
who could pull it off. What would actually be an
extraordinarily effective wolf in sheep's clothing, some guy or Gale
who's great looking and very accomplished in other.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Parts of life.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This joker, Mam Donnie, he's never had a job that
I can tell, right, So he's not going to have
any legs or any credibility nationwide. And as we've documented,
New York's gonna crash. But the day is coming when
it's going to be wrapped in a much scary package,
because that package is going to be so appealing on
the surface and is going to be so much smarter,
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and is really going to be devoted to socialism rather
than themselves.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
If Mom Donnie was really.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Devoted to socialism, then he would have given a much
different speech last night. If he was really devoted to
the people of New York, he would have given a
much different unifying speech. President Trump and I we have
our differences, but I want to find those areas where
we can work together and where we can't work together,
I'll stand firm, but I'll do it within the bounds
of the law kind of speech. And they would have
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extended that theme out to other groups, but he didn't
do that because he doesn't care about New York or
those people who are cheering for me. He cares about
himself elevating his socialist profile worldwide, you know, for his
future endeavors. But that day is coming in Colorado and
nationally where there will be socialists who know how to
dress it up really well. Now, we have some people
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who are doing some crazy things in Colorado, right like
Mike Johnston who as he's going to send law enforcement
out to fight the Feds at the border and calls
on tens of thousands of moms to stop federal law
enforcement officials. That's crazy stuff. Johnston drefs, dresses it up differently.
But Johnston isn't good enough to pose the kind of
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threat that one of these socialist will one.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Of these days.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I'm not labeling Johnston a socialist. I don't want
to get cut up and all of that terminology stuff,
just saying he does some crazy stuff. So yeah, Mandani harmless,
beneficial in a lot of ways, but not if you
live in New York three or three seven one, three
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Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then you get the Bennett's and the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Hickenloopers and the Polices who you know, pull the con
and pretend to be moderates when they're really far left.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But Bennett and Hickenlooper, we.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Know, are relatively harmless other than unfortunately giving Democrats another
vote in the US Senate because they're.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Completely in affective at what they do.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And Bennett's about to bring his unique personal brand of
ineffectiveness to the Governor's mansion unless you know, we can
find a way to stop him at the ballot box.
But Polus, he's done a bunch of harm. He doesn't
pose any national threat because once he gets outside the
Colorado bubble and has to ask answer some tough questions
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from national media who have other Democratic candidates they're rooting for,
Polis falls apart.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
He's got a glass jaw.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Ryan, do you see anybody on the Colorado scene who
is a threat, a real threat to be able to
carry whatever you want to call it, socialism, democratic socialism
carry it nationally? I mean, Colorado is so far gone
as it is right now, but carry it outside the state.
I don't see anybody on the Colorado scene who has
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those kind of chops. I don't see anybody in the
Democratic Party nationally who can pull off that big.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Con right now.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Colorado is a unique animal in my mind, Dan, because
I don't think many people who typically vote Democrat, they
could be center left and maybe even unaffiliated and not
registered Democrats, but for whatever reasons they're voting Democrat that
they do disavow the Democratic Socialists of America because we've
seen that happen. That was Candy Sea to Baca, or
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was it Tim Hernandez in the house districts there or
the city council. The Democrats have kind of and I'm
talking about Colorado specifically, are and only police themselves in
rooting out those really far wackle leftists with ostensibly more
center left moderates. But we all know that it's a
very thin line.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but that's pre eleven fourth thinking, right, that's right,
I know, right after last night the results excuse me
while I cough, sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They with Mom, Donnie.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But then also in Colorado, where I haven't been through
every ballot issue. But it seems like every big spending
measure passed, it seems like the leftist school board members
won virtually everywhere. Seemed like a very decisively blue knight
in Colorado. So those two things combined, I think right now,
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you know, the democratic socialist wing of the Colorado Democratic
Party is going to win that civil war. And that
is where Colorado, I mean, in Colorado's headed there pretty
dramatically already right like on abortion, what's left for them
to do? Legalized killing children up to page three, that's
the only thing left for them that they're so radical
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on that. But yeah, I think the radicals have won
that civil war. Does that make a difference for Phil
Wiser in the governor's race. I don't think it will,
because if Wiser doesn't fit that mold now of a
Mumdani type, a young, articulate, wild, exciting type, you know,
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who might galvanize that democratic socialist wing of the Colorado
Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He just he's going to try to play to it,
but he doesn't fit it.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Well, you know, Senator Michael Bennett is dropping f bombs
now on podcast appearances.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So really.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just no pride, right, absolutely, no pride. How can you
live your life being somebody you're really not taking positions
you know are wrong all to get and keep power.
That would have to be that that's a prison without bars.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It have to be a very sad state.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, hey, let me play some sound if there's time here.
Johnston trying to say that this passage of the Big
Bond in Denver means people are approving of his job
as mayor.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Cut one.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yesterday you told me that this measure was not a
referendum on whether you're doing a good job as mayor.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Now that it's going to pass by twenty twenty five points,
you want to amend.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That it is out till the referend one.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
How I'm doing is mayorck.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Cut that off, please right. What it is is the opposite.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's the people of Denver saying we see this city
falling apart around us and we want to try to
save it. And that's what that passage of that Big
Bond was last night. Now, is it also consistent with
the fact that Denver has gone deep blue and the
idea of spending other people's money? It all in, no
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question about that. But all you have to do is
drive past an overpass in Denver. Drive down the highway
and see all the weeds and the trash and the garbage,
and people can see it falling apart around them.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So it's no thumbs up to Mike Johnston. Congressman Jeff
heard when we come back, you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Thank you, Ryan full Labeled Mom, Donnie Canary and the
coal Mine. He's harmless himself because he's such an open, angry,
deeply committed socialist. Watch out for the next version from
the Democratic Party who wraps it up a little better,
makes it more palatable.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Let's go to the VIP line, ask and you shall receive.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Talk about perfect timing, Congressman Jeff for doing a tremendous
job down in CD three. We had scheduled the Congressman
to join us today to talk about controversy down there
over a particular iced attention, but an excellent opportunity to
get his take on the election results last night, which
I'm sure he was watching very closely, given that when
you're in Congress, you're always in an election cycle. Congressman,
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welcome back to the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Dan, it's great to join you again.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Thank you, my friend. Hey, what do you make of
last night?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Look, you can't read too much in any given election.
These are blue states that voted a very blue city
New York City used to live there. Look Democrats or
energize their angry. But fundamentally, the work that we've been doing,
particularly here in Congress, is benefiting working class families across
not only Colorado, but across the country. And we're going
to start to see the effects of that going forw
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when people are finding their taxes, when people see the
end of the year withholding things like that. Fundamentally, I
think we need to make sure that we're focus on
the fundamentals, which is the economy, lowering cost prescription drugs, housing, healthcare,
all of those things. We're on the right track, and
I would caution people to read from reading too much
into last night's resolves.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Col and I appreciate your position on the issues, the
good work you're doing, etc.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
We're aligned on all of that that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
My concern is that, Okay, now the face of the
Democratic Party nationwide is an angry and apologetic socialist, and
there seems to be some appetite the energy, and the
Democratic Party in Colorado, for example, I think is certainly
on the side of the Democratic socialist any concern in
really important races like yours, that that kind of energy,
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that kind of hey, it's time we just go take
the money from the oppressors and give it to the oppressed,
meaning us, that that kind of energy is going to
alter your district and other key districts like it.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, I don't think so, Dan. Look, this may energize
a hardcore Democratic base and the folks that are New
York City, but fundamentally, I think most common sense people
realize that these are empty and bankrupt ideas and that
socialism does not work. My wife came from socialism and
communist cypro Blakia, so he can tell you firsthand this
is bankrupt morally, socially, economically long term, Dan, you know
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the principles. Nothing has created more wealth than our capitalism.
Is it perfect? No, But you know, a free market trade,
economic growth, you know, pro pro market policies are brought
more people out of wealth and socialism or communism ever
could and I think we see that going to see
that across the country. So though it will energize the
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Democratic base. But fundamentally, we're going to stay focused on
the basics and we're going to win both in my
district and in other districts across the country. I'm optimistic,
but that's going to be the case. These ideas that
we're talking about, they're fundamentally not appealing their bankrupt They
appeal to anger. I just don't see this long term
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is a viable electorally, you know, productive activities the Democrats
are doing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, somebody made the great point last night. Historically, socialism
never creates prosperity. It always follows prosperity, and that's what
we have right now. But Congressman Jefford kind enough to join,
is Congressman the original reason for asking for your time,
As you know, it's received a lot of attention down
in southern Colorado as well as nationally protest over the
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detention of a particular family, and the rough facts as
I understand them, is a father, two kids, picked up
ice was looking for somebody else, but held the family
in detention. I think they're still in detention. Where do
you come down on all that?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Well, listen, we're still gathering the facts. Dan. Certainly this
is something that has come to our attention, and that
has something that we're focusing on carefully, working both with
ICE and with the State Department, and understanding exactly what
the facts are. It's a constituent issue right now, and
then we're working through it, and part of that is
gathering the facts. I mean, you hear a lot of stories.
It does sound like there was a mistaken identity here.
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Exactly how this happened, what the specifics are, I think
we need to wait and see, and we're trying to
track those down. One of the things that I've always
said is we need to give time for the facts
to come to light and to consider them in a
thoughtful way. And that's one of the things I'm doing
with this issue. Certainly something that we that I care
about and that we're looking at carefully. But exactly what
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happened and what the situation is, you know, we need
to give that a little bit of time to develop.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And Congressmen, do you know, is there a set policy
with ICE now of normally not detaining people who ICE
does not consider to be a flight risk and letting
that process play out to a final you know, deportation
order without the people being in detention.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is that a set policy within ICE? I seem to
read conflicting things on that.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
You know, I don't know the specific answer to that, Dan,
I do know that people that have applied for asylum
as a granted parole in our country are generally entitled
to be outside of the custodial detention process until that
asylum claim is adjudicated and decided. Exactly how that fits
in here, I'm not sure. Now fundamentally need to fix
our silent system. It's broken. We've done a great job
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as Republicans and securing the border, and with President Trump's lead,
you know, we've seen a dramatic decrease in the number
of illegal crossings, which me was the sort of arterial
believe that was the biggest a situation that we had.
Now we need to work on how does this immigration
process work, How does the asylum process work. How do
we make sure that people are being truthful in their
assilent applications and that we're processing these claims in a
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way that's efficient and fair and just that There's some
major changes that we need to make in that system.
But right now, like I said, with this particular case,
I think we need to look at the facts and
see what as a general matter, if you're parolled into
the country and you're making asylum claim, you're not going
to be in detention in most cases.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Congressman jefford Our guest, Congressman, do you have a sense
of where your party is as a whole.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Let's say we're congress. Republicans in Congress are on.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
This issue of whether the deportations should go beyond the
people here ilegally who have committed other crimes. That there
appears to be a Fox News is right. There appears
to have been a big internal debate within Ice itself
over that. Is the Republican Party, at least at the
congressional level, unified on that issue.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
There's certainly some discussion. There's legislation that we're looking at
and approaches that I'd say there's a diversity of opinions
within the party, and I think most from my perspective,
the most important thing is that we focus on the
individuals that are here illegally, that have committed additional crimes,
particularly violent crimes. That's the priority that I heard when
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I was running prophets. It's a priority that I still
here now. We have serious problems when it comes to
drugs and drug smuggling. We do have a secure border
when it comes to people and humans smuggling, but when
it comes to drug smuggling, we still have a lot
of illegal sentinel coming through the board that's being done
and trafficked and by people that oftentimes are not here
illegally or that are not here legally, and we need
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to make sure that we focus and crack down on
that because first and foremost is a public safety issue.
So yes, there is a diversity of opinion within the party.
View is we need to focus first and foremost on
people that are here illegally that are committing additional crimes,
particularly violent crime.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Final question, You've been generous with your time.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It seems to me that the big undercurrent here is
the left trying to carve out these zones where federal
law does not apply and where a precedent is established
that if there's enough political power Democrat political power in
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a certain area that the federal government can't go there
and can't enforce immigration laws. What's your attitude toward how
far this administration should go to make it clear that
it is going to enforce immigration law.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know whether local democratic officials like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I think it's very important to make that message loud
and clear on multiple levels, including is simply our system
of government and the fact that you can't have local
jurisdictions deciding not to follow the constitution.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
And I think you're exactly right. We are a nation
of laws, not of people. And when it comes to
immigration law, particularly federal immigration law, this is something that
the federal government has a key role in and under
the supremacy clause of the Constitution, it's clear that this
responsibility relies or lies with the federal government. And so
when it comes to municipalities or counties or states refusing
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to cooperate with federal officials when it comes to immigration
enforcement issues, that is a serious problem for me. And
in the same way in the past where where we
had local governments that were not complying with federal laws.
Think of you know, the democratic governors in the South
that refused to comply with integrated orders. We need to
make sure that federal laws being enforced. Immigration laws, federal law.
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We've got to do the right thing, and states and
counties and mayors need to need to make sure that
they're cooperating with federal law enforcement, not hindering it in
any way. It's dangerous, it's illegal, and it violates the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, and as I watched all the video I could
find of what was going on down in Durango, it
seemed to me an awful lot of people in the
crowd just ad the attitude that hey, federal government's not
welcome here, not allowed to operate here. And I just
think it's very very important to never let that approach win.
But Congressman, thank you for your time today. Very grateful
for it.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
I completely agree with you. Dan, happy to join it.
Take care you too.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
My friend that is Congressman Jeff Heard Please check out
his website. Really doing a good job down there and
very very important to keep him in Congress.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald
Trumps of our city have grown far too comfortable taking.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Advantage of their tenants.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We will put an end to the culture of corruption
that has allowed billionaires like Trump to evade taxation and
exploit tax breaks. We will stay and alongside unions and
expand labor protections, because we know, just as Donald Trump does,
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that when working people have ironclad rights, the bosses who
seek to extort them become very small.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Indeed.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, and that was by far the mildest of what
we got from Mom Donnie last night. So to the
point I made before, listen, this guy's a gift to
the GOP right. And that goes to a text we got. Dan,
please explain in specifics how Mandami winning is good for
Republicans overall. I don't see it that from Frandy. Thank you, Frandy.
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It's huge for Republicans because as a former Democrat I
can tell you there are so many Democrats out there
right now who just don't dial into politics all the time.
Doesn't mean they don't care, doesn't mean they're dumb. No,
they just made a decision that you know, that world,
it's so awful, it's so ugly, it's so polarizing. I
don't want it in my life. I'm going to be
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a good citizen. I'll go out and vote when I should.
And a lot of those Democrats just vote habitually based
on how their grandparents did and their parents did, and
their stereotypical view of Republicans. So a guy like Memdami
opens their eyes because now the face of the Democratic
Party nationwide is an avowed, angry, unapologetic socialist. That's going
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to get the attention of some people who've habitually voted Democrat,
because you've got so many people who routinely vote Democrat,
who are deeply patriotic that they share the views, if
not all, most of the views of Conservatives. They just
vote Democrat out of habit and revulsion at the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So that's why it's going to help so much.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Also going to help mobilize patriots as well, whether they
happen to be an affiliated Republican Democrat, because anybody who
truly loves his country, true patriots understand that that socialism
is is evil.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Socialism, communism, they're.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Evil, They're death, They're the death of nations, and so
it's going to mobilize people to fight back against that.
That's why Frandy I believe it's very good for the
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Let's try to squeeze in some calls as well. I'm
remote today, Ryan, who do we have. Ryan must be
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lining up some more calls. Oh, let's pop John on John.
You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Dan? How you doing? Love your shows. Good to have
somebody with so much common sense representing the people here
in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Hey, I was calling about this L and MM and
SNAP program. Yeah, I mean, how much food can people
get families? Is my understanding that that those bills feed
all kids, just low income kids.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Two different critters there, my friend.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
When you're talking Snap, there are these financial requirements, and
we've talked about the details in Aaron.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I'm happy to pull it up online now and go
through it if you'd like to.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But when you're talking about LL and MM as I
understand that those school lunch programs, at least, no, I
don't believe that there's a financial requirement that it's needs
based when it comes to those programs.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
But they both went overwhelmingly right, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
They did well. Of course, everybody who has kids is
going to vote to have somebody else pay for and
feed their kids.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Writing And that's why I open the show with this
that it's such a revealing day for me today and
last night as well as to where we're at in
Colorado right now, because you know, historically, even when the
voters were in the mood to electorally shoot everything with
the red jersey on, you'd still see a lot of
conservative voting on ballot issues.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think we saw a real shift in that last night.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You don't want to overread one sample, but I'm reading
it together with lots of other information out there. So
I think we're definitely in a mode now of other
people's money voters being very, very willing to spend other
people's money right.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
And I've known a lot of teachers dan who say
that there's just thousands of pounds of food that's thrown
away at every breakfast and lunch because the kids don't
want to eat that food and they bring in their
own food of chips and jump food, and they're not
allowed to save that food for the next day for fear,
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you know, somebody's going to get sick. So I mean,
how about some checks and balances. How much food is
getting bought and thrown away and wasted. I mean, it's
it's ridiculous, and those are growing up. We would buy
a loaf of bread, and you know, some cereal and
eggs and peanut butter, and we'd have you know, peanut
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butter sandwich is a snagg and I mean, why people
can't cook for themselves anymore? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
John, appreciate the call, my friend, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, those kind of micro details on the program I'm
not up on, but I get John's overall point and
agree with it. That obviously, Colorado, know is a very
deep shade of blue, not quite California blue, but getting
very close to that. So big question for you, and
we have a lot of ground to cover in the
five o'clock hour. Big question for you is, Okay, how
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do we save the state? It's as deep blue as
it's ever been at any point in its history. Republicans
face a more uphill battle than we have at any
point in the state's history. We don't have the luxury
of quitting. It would be a moral to quit. It's
a privilege to be here at a time where the
fight's going to be this tough. How do we keep
the flame alive?
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
A more important time to fight for the American way, right.
Glad you are here today. Three h three seven one
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
I think a day and.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Night of revelations I think politically for me, and having
watched this scene for so long, out done a show
like this for decades, last night and today just incredibly
revealing about where we're adding Colorado and where we need
to go and how to get there. So anxious to
have that conversation with you nationally. To me, very crystallizing
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and revealing as well, and even more reason to be
optimistic long term. And as you know, I went into
yesterday and the day before yesterday, and every day since
November election day of last year, very very optimistic. So
want to break all of that down three or three
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five seven seven three nine and our prescheduled conversation with
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Congressman Jeff Heard from the third CD in Colorado is
just incredibly timely today because I think that topic ties into,
you know, the bigger question of, Okay, how do we
continue to save America as the Trump voters did in
sixteen and then again in twenty four, and then where
does it go beyond that? Because Congressman Heard of beyond
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to talk with us in part about the detention of
family in Durango, that that drew a bunch of protesters,
some arrest, everything else became kind of a flashpoint. You
haven't seen much in the news on it the last
few days, but his take on that and his take
on just kind of the politics of all this, and
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I use politics in the broader community decision making sense
and not the more narrow artisan type take.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Of arrest and detention of folks here illegally who have
not committed additional crimes, which obviously is a flashpoint issue
right now within the Republican Party. There's some division on that,
obviously division within the White House itself. Well, let me
take that back, division within Ice itself, which then led
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to a big shake up a week ago. So we'll
have a good talk with Congressman Jeff heard about that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I think clear takeaway.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I didn't have the pleasure of hearing Ryan's show, which
he does, as you know, in the Denver market each
day so well from two to four. So I don't
know where you came down on all of this, Ryan,
but I think it's very clear that Colorado has reached
a new depth of blue, its deepest shade of blue.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In any of our lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's not quite California blue at this point, but it's close.
And so the conversation a little bit of conversation about
how did we get there, because we got an that
in order to figure out how to overcome this, dig
ourselves out and save the state. But I don't think
there's any question that is where we're at right now
based on those results last night, combined with everything else
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right because you never want to overread one set of results,
but pretty clear message all of that. Three oh three
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your take on.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That message as well.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But let me start with this Mandani business, because that's
what we spent a lot of the show on yesterday.
Wasn't hard to predict I was going to win, but
we anticipated that and we were just looking ahead. And
it is going to be exactly what I promised you
yesterday and the day before and the day before that.
The election of Mandani is going to be a great
thing for Republicans nationwide. It's second right now in terms of,
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you know, benefit to Republicans only to the success of
Donald Trump, because it's to open a lot of Democrat eyes.
As a former Democrat, I garn blanket to you, they're
an awful lot of people voting Democrat who.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Has no idea. They have no idea the fact that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The Democratic Party has gone to all out socialism in
many pockets. They don't admit that openly the way Mom
Donnie does. But now the face of the Democratic Party
is an admitted, un apologetic socialist who I think can
fairly be called a communist, but just to keep it clean,
let's say socialist. And that's going to be a real
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eye opener for a lot of Democrats. But the main
point I wanted to make today in the fresh point
is that that was not a victory speech by Mom
Donnie last night. That was a concession speech by Mom Donnie.
The speech he gave last night was conceding that he
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will fail as mayor of New York and that New
York will fail under him.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's the speech he gave last night.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Because you only give the kind of defiant, double middle
finger f you and the horse you rode in.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
On kind of speech he gave last night.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
If you know you are going to fail, if you
have conceded the city is going to fail under you,
If your mission is for.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The city to succeed, then you give the opposite of this.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Speech Mom Donnie gave last night, which was and I'll
start with this one, which was just flat out taunting
and tempting and begging Trump to come to New York
and enforce immigration laws. And so what you'll see as
this sound unfolds is that Mom Donnie's plan, I'm sure
going into the campaign and now certainly that he's won,
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his plan has nothing to do with making New York
better and making life better for New Yorkers and having
New York succeed in classic terms and the way most
people would define success.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's all about Mom Donnie. It's all about making him.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm a worldwide socialist hero. It's all about him, elevating
him and making him welcome across the globes for future
book deals, for future lucrative business deals, and then just personally,
you know, as a hero, a socialist hero. Because that's
the kind of speech he gave last night. It was
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a speech that he knew, he had to know would
actually hurt New York, hurt New Yorkers, hurt the New
Yorkers who voted for him. Let's start with cut fifteen place.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
New York will.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Remain a city of immigrants, a city built by immigrants,
powered by immigrants, and as of to night, led by
an immigrant. So hear me, President Trump, when I say this,
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to get to any of us, you will have to
get through all of us.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now interesting, Obviously that's radical, and that is designed to
cause a war with Trump. It's designed to get Trump
to cut off funds to New York. It's designed to
get Trump to flood New York with ice agents.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, So it is. It is designed to.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Elevate Mom Donnie to the level of Trump and to
make it a Mom Donnie versus Trump fight, which is
very bad for New York and all the citizens of
New York. But very good for Mom Donnie in terms
of his worldwide persona, which is all he cares about
at this point. So that's what that was all about.
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But tell me how that's going to help the typical
New Yorker. It's not the interesting twist on that rine
is as openly radical and defiant and bad for New
York as that was, it wasn't as radical as Mike
Johnston in Denver, because remember Mike Johnston in Denver. Mike
Johnston in Denver went a step further than Mom Donnie.
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He not only taunted Trump, and he not only you know,
wanted to elevate his own national profile by taking on
Trump very visibly, he said. Johnston said he would send
you know, Denver's finess to the county line to take
on federal forces. And he called for tens of thousands
of Denver rights to take to the streets to oppose
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the enforcement of federal laws. So Johnston in different kind
of packaging, you know, in terms of his delivery, et cetera.
Johnston actually took on a more radical position than Mom Donnie,
which is hard to imagine. But once again, as I
said at the time, what Johnston did, he had to know,
would hurt Denver, would hurt the people of Denver, would
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hurt the ability of Denver to get federal funds, etc.
But he didn't care for Johnston, just like Mom Donnie.
It's all about elevating the national profile. In the case
of Mom Donnie, his worldwide profile among socialists worldwide.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So when we come back, I want to get just
some more of that sound.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's fascinating, but it also should give you great comfort
that again the face of the Democratic Party now is
an open avowed socialist. That can only be good for
the Republicans in most places in the country, maybe not Colorado.
And what do you think about this Democrat Civil War
clearly won by the socialist wing of the party.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Now what do you think that'll mean in Colorado? And
am I right?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is Colorado now the deepest shade of blue? It's ever
been very close to California blue? And most important, what's
the road back? Because we don't have a right to quit.
It would be a moral to quit, you know, it's
an honor to have the chance to fight when Colorado
is at its lowest point.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So what is that road back? Here on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
If anyone can show a nation betrayed by Donald Trump
how to defeat him, it is the city that gave
rise to him. And if there is any way to
terrify a despot, it is by dismantling the very conditions
that allowed him to accumulate power. This is not only
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how we stopped Trump, it's how we stop the next one.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I know, he's an accomplished guy, he just won the
Melitaries in New York.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But he's talking like a nut job.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
You know, he's like the Ward Churchill right now of
socialism in America. He's it's just like stuff he read
out of some book. And it's middle of the night.
It's three am, and they're all doing hits or something,
So bring it on. I mean, this guy poses no
threat at all, no threat at all to America. Now,
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New York's gonna really hurt under him, and I feel
for those people, but good things will come of it
because they won't make that mistake again in the future.
But for the nation, Mom, Donnie is a gift to conservatives,
not just for the obvious reasons or that he's going
to open eye to who the Democrats leader really is now.
But because he's harmless, he's the canary in the coal mine.
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You know, God forbid, and I'm glad he has. God
forbid that the big Socialists breakthrough would actually be somebody
who could pull it off. What would actually be an
extraordinarily effective wolf in sheep's clothing, some guy or Gale
who's great looking and very accomplished in other.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Parts of life.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
This joker, Mam Donnie, he's never had a job that
I can tell, right, So he's not going to have
any legs or any credibility nationwide. And as we've documented,
New York's gonna crash. But the day is coming when
it's going to be wrapped in a much scary package,
because that package is going to be so appealing on
the surface and is going to be so much smarter,
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and is really going to be devoted to socialism rather
than themselves.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
If Mom Donnie was really.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Devoted to socialism, then he would have given a much
different speech last night. If he was really devoted to
the people of New York, he would have given a
much different unifying speech. President Trump and I we have
our differences, but I want to find those areas where
we can work together and where we can't work together,
I'll stand firm, but I'll do it within the bounds
of the law kind of speech. And they would have
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extended that theme out to other groups, but he didn't
do that because he doesn't care about New York or
those people who are cheering for me. He cares about
himself elevating his socialist profile worldwide, you know, for his
future endeavors. But that day is coming in Colorado and
nationally where there will be socialists who know how to
dress it up really well. Now, we have some people
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who are doing some crazy things in Colorado, right like
Mike Johnston who as he's going to send law enforcement
out to fight the Feds at the border and calls
on tens of thousands of moms to stop federal law
enforcement officials. That's crazy stuff. Johnston drefs, dresses it up differently.
But Johnston isn't good enough to pose the kind of
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threat that one of these socialist will one.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Of these days.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I'm not labeling Johnston a socialist. I don't want
to get cut up and all of that terminology stuff,
just saying he does some crazy stuff. So yeah, Mandani harmless,
beneficial in a lot of ways, but not if you
live in New York three or three seven one, three
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Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then you get the Bennett's and the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Hickenloopers and the Polices who you know, pull the con
and pretend to be moderates when they're really far left.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But Bennett and Hickenlooper, we.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Know, are relatively harmless other than unfortunately giving Democrats another
vote in the US Senate because they're.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Completely in affective at what they do.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And Bennett's about to bring his unique personal brand of
ineffectiveness to the Governor's mansion unless you know, we can
find a way to stop him at the ballot box.
But Polus, he's done a bunch of harm. He doesn't
pose any national threat because once he gets outside the
Colorado bubble and has to ask answer some tough questions
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from national media who have other Democratic candidates they're rooting for,
Polis falls apart.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
He's got a glass jaw.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Ryan, do you see anybody on the Colorado scene who
is a threat, a real threat to be able to
carry whatever you want to call it, socialism, democratic socialism
carry it nationally? I mean, Colorado is so far gone
as it is right now, but carry it outside the state.
I don't see anybody on the Colorado scene who has
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those kind of chops. I don't see anybody in the
Democratic Party nationally who can pull off that big.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Con right now.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Colorado is a unique animal in my mind, Dan, because
I don't think many people who typically vote Democrat, they
could be center left and maybe even unaffiliated and not
registered Democrats, but for whatever reasons they're voting Democrat that
they do disavow the Democratic Socialists of America because we've
seen that happen. That was Candy Sea to Baca, or
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was it Tim Hernandez in the house districts there or
the city council. The Democrats have kind of and I'm
talking about Colorado specifically, are and only police themselves in
rooting out those really far wackle leftists with ostensibly more
center left moderates. But we all know that it's a
very thin line.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but that's pre eleven fourth thinking, right, that's right,
I know, right after last night the results excuse me
while I cough, sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They with Mom, Donnie.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
But then also in Colorado, where I haven't been through
every ballot issue. But it seems like every big spending
measure passed, it seems like the leftist school board members
won virtually everywhere. Seemed like a very decisively blue knight
in Colorado. So those two things combined, I think right now,
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you know, the democratic socialist wing of the Colorado Democratic
Party is going to win that civil war. And that
is where Colorado, I mean, in Colorado's headed there pretty
dramatically already right like on abortion, what's left for them
to do? Legalized killing children up to page three, that's
the only thing left for them that they're so radical
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on that. But yeah, I think the radicals have won
that civil war. Does that make a difference for Phil
Wiser in the governor's race. I don't think it will,
because if Wiser doesn't fit that mold now of a
Mumdani type, a young, articulate, wild, exciting type, you know,
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who might galvanize that democratic socialist wing of the Colorado
Democratic Party.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He just he's going to try to play to it,
but he doesn't fit it.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Well, you know, Senator Michael Bennett is dropping f bombs
now on podcast appearances.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So really.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Just no pride, right, absolutely, no pride. How can you
live your life being somebody you're really not taking positions
you know are wrong all to get and keep power.
That would have to be that that's a prison without bars.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It have to be a very sad state.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, hey, let me play some sound if there's time here.
Johnston trying to say that this passage of the Big
Bond in Denver means people are approving of his job
as mayor.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Cut one.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yesterday you told me that this measure was not a
referendum on whether you're doing a good job as mayor.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Now that it's going to pass by twenty twenty five points,
you want to amend.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That it is out till the referend one.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
How I'm doing is mayorck.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Cut that off, please right. What it is is the opposite.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's the people of Denver saying we see this city
falling apart around us and we want to try to
save it. And that's what that passage of that Big
Bond was last night. Now, is it also consistent with
the fact that Denver has gone deep blue and the
idea of spending other people's money? It all in, no
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question about that. But all you have to do is
drive past an overpass in Denver. Drive down the highway
and see all the weeds and the trash and the garbage,
and people can see it falling apart around them.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
So it's no thumbs up to Mike Johnston. Congressman Jeff
heard when we come back, you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Thank you, Ryan full Labeled Mom, Donnie Canary and the
coal Mine. He's harmless himself because he's such an open, angry,
deeply committed socialist. Watch out for the next version from
the Democratic Party who wraps it up a little better,
makes it more palatable.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Let's go to the VIP line, ask and you shall receive.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Talk about perfect timing, Congressman Jeff for doing a tremendous
job down in CD three. We had scheduled the Congressman
to join us today to talk about controversy down there
over a particular iced attention, but an excellent opportunity to
get his take on the election results last night, which
I'm sure he was watching very closely, given that when
you're in Congress, you're always in an election cycle. Congressman,
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welcome back to the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Dan, it's great to join you again.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Thank you, my friend. Hey, what do you make of
last night?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Look, you can't read too much in any given election.
These are blue states that voted a very blue city
New York City used to live there. Look Democrats or
energize their angry. But fundamentally, the work that we've been doing,
particularly here in Congress, is benefiting working class families across
not only Colorado, but across the country. And we're going
to start to see the effects of that going forw
(20:11):
when people are finding their taxes, when people see the
end of the year withholding things like that. Fundamentally, I
think we need to make sure that we're focus on
the fundamentals, which is the economy, lowering cost prescription drugs, housing, healthcare,
all of those things. We're on the right track, and
I would caution people to read from reading too much
into last night's resolves.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Col and I appreciate your position on the issues, the
good work you're doing, etc.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
We're aligned on all of that that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
My concern is that, Okay, now the face of the
Democratic Party nationwide is an angry and apologetic socialist, and
there seems to be some appetite the energy, and the
Democratic Party in Colorado, for example, I think is certainly
on the side of the Democratic socialist any concern in
really important races like yours, that that kind of energy,
(21:04):
that kind of hey, it's time we just go take
the money from the oppressors and give it to the oppressed,
meaning us, that that kind of energy is going to
alter your district and other key districts like it.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
Yeah, I don't think so, Dan. Look, this may energize
a hardcore Democratic base and the folks that are New
York City, but fundamentally, I think most common sense people
realize that these are empty and bankrupt ideas and that
socialism does not work. My wife came from socialism and
communist cypro Blakia, so he can tell you firsthand this
is bankrupt morally, socially, economically long term, Dan, you know
(21:41):
the principles. Nothing has created more wealth than our capitalism.
Is it perfect? No, But you know, a free market trade,
economic growth, you know, pro pro market policies are brought
more people out of wealth and socialism or communism ever
could and I think we see that going to see
that across the country. So though it will energize the
(22:02):
Democratic base. But fundamentally, we're going to stay focused on
the basics and we're going to win both in my
district and in other districts across the country. I'm optimistic,
but that's going to be the case. These ideas that
we're talking about, they're fundamentally not appealing their bankrupt They
appeal to anger. I just don't see this long term
(22:23):
is a viable electorally, you know, productive activities the Democrats
are doing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, somebody made the great point last night. Historically, socialism
never creates prosperity. It always follows prosperity, and that's what
we have right now. But Congressman Jefford kind enough to join,
is Congressman the original reason for asking for your time,
As you know, it's received a lot of attention down
in southern Colorado as well as nationally protest over the
(22:53):
detention of a particular family, and the rough facts as
I understand them, is a father, two kids, picked up
ice was looking for somebody else, but held the family
in detention. I think they're still in detention. Where do
you come down on all that?
Speaker 7 (23:11):
Well, listen, we're still gathering the facts. Dan. Certainly this
is something that has come to our attention, and that
has something that we're focusing on carefully, working both with
ICE and with the State Department, and understanding exactly what
the facts are. It's a constituent issue right now, and
then we're working through it, and part of that is
gathering the facts. I mean, you hear a lot of stories.
It does sound like there was a mistaken identity here.
(23:34):
Exactly how this happened, what the specifics are, I think
we need to wait and see, and we're trying to
track those down. One of the things that I've always
said is we need to give time for the facts
to come to light and to consider them in a
thoughtful way. And that's one of the things I'm doing
with this issue. Certainly something that we that I care
about and that we're looking at carefully. But exactly what
(23:54):
happened and what the situation is, you know, we need
to give that a little bit of time to develop.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And Congressmen, do you know, is there a set policy
with ICE now of normally not detaining people who ICE
does not consider to be a flight risk and letting
that process play out to a final you know, deportation
order without the people being in detention.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is that a set policy within ICE? I seem to
read conflicting things on that.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
You know, I don't know the specific answer to that, Dan,
I do know that people that have applied for asylum
as a granted parole in our country are generally entitled
to be outside of the custodial detention process until that
asylum claim is adjudicated and decided. Exactly how that fits
in here, I'm not sure. Now fundamentally need to fix
our silent system. It's broken. We've done a great job
(24:51):
as Republicans and securing the border, and with President Trump's lead,
you know, we've seen a dramatic decrease in the number
of illegal crossings, which me was the sort of arterial
believe that was the biggest a situation that we had.
Now we need to work on how does this immigration
process work, How does the asylum process work. How do
we make sure that people are being truthful in their
assilent applications and that we're processing these claims in a
(25:15):
way that's efficient and fair and just that There's some
major changes that we need to make in that system.
But right now, like I said, with this particular case,
I think we need to look at the facts and
see what as a general matter, if you're parolled into
the country and you're making asylum claim, you're not going
to be in detention in most cases.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Congressman jefford Our guest, Congressman, do you have a sense
of where your party is as a whole.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Let's say we're congress. Republicans in Congress are on.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
This issue of whether the deportations should go beyond the
people here ilegally who have committed other crimes. That there
appears to be a Fox News is right. There appears
to have been a big internal debate within Ice itself
over that. Is the Republican Party, at least at the
congressional level, unified on that issue.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
There's certainly some discussion. There's legislation that we're looking at
and approaches that I'd say there's a diversity of opinions
within the party, and I think most from my perspective,
the most important thing is that we focus on the
individuals that are here illegally, that have committed additional crimes,
particularly violent crimes. That's the priority that I heard when
(26:29):
I was running prophets. It's a priority that I still
here now. We have serious problems when it comes to
drugs and drug smuggling. We do have a secure border
when it comes to people and humans smuggling, but when
it comes to drug smuggling, we still have a lot
of illegal sentinel coming through the board that's being done
and trafficked and by people that oftentimes are not here
illegally or that are not here legally, and we need
(26:51):
to make sure that we focus and crack down on
that because first and foremost is a public safety issue.
So yes, there is a diversity of opinion within the party.
View is we need to focus first and foremost on
people that are here illegally that are committing additional crimes,
particularly violent crime.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Final question, You've been generous with your time.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
It seems to me that the big undercurrent here is
the left trying to carve out these zones where federal
law does not apply and where a precedent is established
that if there's enough political power Democrat political power in
(27:30):
a certain area that the federal government can't go there
and can't enforce immigration laws. What's your attitude toward how
far this administration should go to make it clear that
it is going to enforce immigration law.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
You know whether local democratic officials like it or not.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I think it's very important to make that message loud
and clear on multiple levels, including is simply our system
of government and the fact that you can't have local
jurisdictions deciding not to follow the constitution.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
And I think you're exactly right. We are a nation
of laws, not of people. And when it comes to
immigration law, particularly federal immigration law, this is something that
the federal government has a key role in and under
the supremacy clause of the Constitution, it's clear that this
responsibility relies or lies with the federal government. And so
when it comes to municipalities or counties or states refusing
(28:23):
to cooperate with federal officials when it comes to immigration
enforcement issues, that is a serious problem for me. And
in the same way in the past where where we
had local governments that were not complying with federal laws.
Think of you know, the democratic governors in the South
that refused to comply with integrated orders. We need to
make sure that federal laws being enforced. Immigration laws, federal law.
(28:45):
We've got to do the right thing, and states and
counties and mayors need to need to make sure that
they're cooperating with federal law enforcement, not hindering it in
any way. It's dangerous, it's illegal, and it violates the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, and as I watched all the video I could
find of what was going on down in Durango, it
seemed to me an awful lot of people in the
crowd just ad the attitude that hey, federal government's not
welcome here, not allowed to operate here. And I just
think it's very very important to never let that approach win.
But Congressman, thank you for your time today. Very grateful
for it.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
I completely agree with you. Dan, happy to join it.
Take care you too.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
My friend that is Congressman Jeff Heard Please check out
his website. Really doing a good job down there and
very very important to keep him in Congress.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
We will hold bad landlords to account because the Donald
Trumps of our city have grown far too comfortable taking.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Advantage of their tenants.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
We will put an end to the culture of corruption
that has allowed billionaires like Trump to evade taxation and
exploit tax breaks. We will stay and alongside unions and
expand labor protections, because we know, just as Donald Trump does,
(30:09):
that when working people have ironclad rights, the bosses who
seek to extort them become very small.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Indeed.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, and that was by far the mildest of what
we got from Mom Donnie last night. So to the
point I made before, listen, this guy's a gift to
the GOP right. And that goes to a text we got. Dan,
please explain in specifics how Mandami winning is good for
Republicans overall. I don't see it that from Frandy. Thank you, Frandy.
(30:41):
It's huge for Republicans because as a former Democrat I
can tell you there are so many Democrats out there
right now who just don't dial into politics all the time.
Doesn't mean they don't care, doesn't mean they're dumb. No,
they just made a decision that you know, that world,
it's so awful, it's so ugly, it's so polarizing. I
don't want it in my life. I'm going to be
(31:02):
a good citizen. I'll go out and vote when I should.
And a lot of those Democrats just vote habitually based
on how their grandparents did and their parents did, and
their stereotypical view of Republicans. So a guy like Memdami
opens their eyes because now the face of the Democratic
Party nationwide is an avowed, angry, unapologetic socialist. That's going
(31:25):
to get the attention of some people who've habitually voted Democrat,
because you've got so many people who routinely vote Democrat,
who are deeply patriotic that they share the views, if
not all, most of the views of Conservatives. They just
vote Democrat out of habit and revulsion at the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
So that's why it's going to help so much.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Also going to help mobilize patriots as well, whether they
happen to be an affiliated Republican Democrat, because anybody who
truly loves his country, true patriots understand that that socialism
is is evil.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Socialism, communism, they're.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Evil, They're death, They're the death of nations, and so
it's going to mobilize people to fight back against that.
That's why Frandy I believe it's very good for the
GOP three or three seven one three eight two five
five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Let's try to squeeze in some calls as well. I'm
remote today, Ryan, who do we have. Ryan must be
(32:23):
lining up some more calls. Oh, let's pop John on John.
You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (32:32):
Dan? How you doing? Love your shows. Good to have
somebody with so much common sense representing the people here
in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Hey, I was calling about this L and MM and
SNAP program. Yeah, I mean, how much food can people
get families? Is my understanding that that those bills feed
all kids, just low income kids.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Two different critters there, my friend.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
When you're talking Snap, there are these financial requirements, and
we've talked about the details in Aaron.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I'm happy to pull it up online now and go
through it if you'd like to.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
But when you're talking about LL and MM as I
understand that those school lunch programs, at least, no, I
don't believe that there's a financial requirement that it's needs
based when it comes to those programs.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
But they both went overwhelmingly right, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
They did well. Of course, everybody who has kids is
going to vote to have somebody else pay for and
feed their kids.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Writing And that's why I open the show with this
that it's such a revealing day for me today and
last night as well as to where we're at in
Colorado right now, because you know, historically, even when the
voters were in the mood to electorally shoot everything with
the red jersey on, you'd still see a lot of
conservative voting on ballot issues.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I think we saw a real shift in that last night.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
You don't want to overread one sample, but I'm reading
it together with lots of other information out there. So
I think we're definitely in a mode now of other
people's money voters being very, very willing to spend other
people's money right.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
And I've known a lot of teachers dan who say
that there's just thousands of pounds of food that's thrown
away at every breakfast and lunch because the kids don't
want to eat that food and they bring in their
own food of chips and jump food, and they're not
allowed to save that food for the next day for fear,
(34:38):
you know, somebody's going to get sick. So I mean,
how about some checks and balances. How much food is
getting bought and thrown away and wasted. I mean, it's
it's ridiculous, and those are growing up. We would buy
a loaf of bread, and you know, some cereal and
eggs and peanut butter, and we'd have you know, peanut
(35:00):
butter sandwich is a snagg and I mean, why people
can't cook for themselves anymore? I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
John, appreciate the call, my friend, thank you.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, those kind of micro details on the program I'm
not up on, but I get John's overall point and
agree with it. That obviously, Colorado, know is a very
deep shade of blue, not quite California blue, but getting
very close to that. So big question for you, and
we have a lot of ground to cover in the
five o'clock hour. Big question for you is, Okay, how
(35:33):
do we save the state? It's as deep blue as
it's ever been at any point in its history. Republicans
face a more uphill battle than we have at any
point in the state's history. We don't have the luxury
of quitting. It would be a moral to quit. It's
a privilege to be here at a time where the
fight's going to be this tough. How do we keep
the flame alive?
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