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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's justice in the American way, right on. Love that
Matt Don in again for Dan Caplis today. Honored to
be in here, as I say, friend and fan of
Dan Caplis, and two days in a row, I'm getting
a little overexposed, and I'm acutely aware of that. I
know it's a kind of a disservice in some ways,
but we're going to carry this torch aloft at a

(00:39):
perilous time for our country because the government does remain
shut down, and I hope people are doing okay with
that and not getting too jittery and too panicky about it.
I did see some news in the Hill Beltway propaganda
media publication that's says this shutdown could go on for

(01:03):
a week. A whole week is what they are estimating,
and I don't know. I mean, we've had a few
shutdowns we talked about yesterday that went on for much
longer than that, and I say, the way you can
kind of tell how a shutdown is going to play
is by looking at who is on offense and who

(01:26):
is on defense.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right now with.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
The shutdown politics, which again have been a staple of
our political culture going back to nineteen ninety five in
the Gingrich Newt Gingrich Speaker of the House President Bill
Clinton battles and back of that time, I guess you'd
have to concede that Bill Clinton got the upper hand
because they had the power of the mainstream media, all

(01:51):
of it brought to bear against Newt Gingrich, who was doing,
in my opinion, very noble things in the mid nineteen nineties.
But now is it a different landscape?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Can the mainstream media just run it for the political establishment,
for the Democrats, for the Rhinos to get what they want,
and that's what they do. The government shut down politics,
the brinksmanship of it is a mechanism by which the
establishment gets what it wants, pushes things to the limit,

(02:28):
media goes to the max. The propaganda is against anything
that they do not want, as in anything say Maga
or Tea party oriented, and that's how it usually plays.
The establishment usually wins. My sense is this time. It
does feel different because who is on offense who is

(02:51):
on defense? Looks a lot to me like the Democrats
are playing defense here. And representative of Hakim Jeffries very
upset about these ongoing sombrero memes, very distraught, very upset
the memes that are bringing Chuck Schumer into it. He

(03:12):
seems pretty touchy about these memes that are going on.
And it was great to hear Ryan talk about these
memes as well over the past couple of hours. Hmmm,
And who is on offense? That would be Donald Trump.
And boy, if there was ever a master of being
on offense in politics, and I didn't know, I did not.

(03:35):
Did I say being offensive? No, as being on offense,
which is there's a distinction there that Donald Trump has
that mastered. And he's come out with a few wonderful
points today, even thinking Democrats for the unprecedented opportunity to
downsize the federal government, and so the relentless discussion of

(04:01):
hey are the Democrats shutting down the government in order
to provide taxpayer dollars to illegal immigrants in the United
States of America. The Democrats are constantly having to try
to rebuff that point and to try to fend that
point off, because any poll data will tell you the
American people are though they're not psyched about that, the

(04:24):
American people do want to have a secure border, hence
Donald Trump winning the election a couple of times. And
I don't know if they really want to stake their
claim to that, and if they keep having to defend
against that accurate charge, then my expectation is the Democrats

(04:46):
might might start to buckle. And again, as JD. Evans
offered to Haakim Jeffries yesterday, the sombrero memes go away
the minute the Democrats decide they'll stop this shut down
the government thing that they are up to right now.
But I do love to see it that who is

(05:07):
on offense and who is on defense. And it used
to be going against the mainstream media. Just nobody could
really do it. Just it just wasn't really a doable
thing at all, and they would tend to pretty much
rule the roost. Donald Trump says this earlier today, actually
this is yesterday.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Republicans must use this opportunity of Democrat force closure to
clear out dead wood, waste and fraud. Billions of dollars
can be saved, make America great again. Hmmm, that sounds
like he's on offense right there. How about another quote

(05:46):
from President Donald Trump, this one from today on his
Truth Social account. All these different competing media sources where
things can get put in front of the minds of
the American people for discussion and for contemplation. It didn't
used to be that way. We didn't used to have that.

(06:08):
Donald Trump's quote from earlier quote, I have a meeting
today with Russ Vought, he of Project twenty twenty five Fame,
to determine which of the many Democrat agencies, most of
which are a political scam, he recommends to be cut,
and whether or not those.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Cuts will be temporary or permanent.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I can't believe the radical left Democrats gave me this
unprecedented opportunity.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
They are not stupid people, so maybe this is.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Their way of wanting to quietly and quickly make America
great again.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
End quote.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
And to that that does that quote resonate with you,
It does resonate with me.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
And that is Trump.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm pure offense and again marginalizing the Democratic Party, referring
to them as radical left Democrats. And if you know
how politics works in this country, the media will always
try to marginalize anybody that you know they disagree with,
and you know, radical right and so forth, or you know,

(07:19):
all the epithets for MAGA and so forth. You're always
seeing that putting it out into the extreme, when of
course it has always been the mainstream. And that was
the story of the Biden administration, that the mainstream American
people were far more MAGA and the extremists, of course
were in the support of Joe Biden to the extent

(07:39):
he was actually the President of the United States or
the people behind him. But I will admit I kind
of like the lay of the land here, and I
think you have too many Americans getting exposed to too
many non mainstream media ideas and concepts, and that does
make it tougher or the Democrats at this point in time.

(08:03):
Now one factor you can boil in here. As Brendan
Carr notes today he's the chairman of the FCC Federal
Communications Commission, Americans trust in mass media has now plummeted
to an all time low.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Did you know this that just eight percent of Americans
have a great deal of trust in legacy media. What
is legacy media? Well, that would be your ABC, your
NBC and your CBS, and would you put NPR in that.
I guess maybe you would have to only eight percent.

(08:47):
That's pretty low. That's like single digits kind of low
right there. And car says, hey, this is an existential
problem for Legacy Media's business model and one that it
has brought upon on itsself. And that's I believe that
Gallop does that big survey every year about trust and

(09:07):
mass media, and if you look at the curves on that,
it's just going kind of.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Straight south, straight down the tubes.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And by the time you get down to eight percent,
then it's getting a little harder to control the minds
of the American people in the old ways that it
used to happen. And oh, it is so glorious to
see it. And how does that play in the shutdown politics? Well,
it plays right into the middle of it. Can the establishment,

(09:35):
Can the political class get what they want whenever they
want it and use the brinksmanship shut down tactics to
get there whenever it gets just a little bit challenging
for them, We'll see, you never know, it is possible.
There could be enough rhinos around to fold and capitulate.

(09:55):
Nobody's better at that than the Rhino. We'll see, We'll
see how this plays, and I'll have more thoughts on
this and about what Russ Vat is up to in
concepts on you know what is this? He always talks
about this administrative state thing and about federal workers that
maybe don't need to be around at this point in time,

(10:18):
not the vision of the founders. Let's talk that through
all right, this and more coming up. Honored to be
in sitting in for Dan Caplas today it's Matt donn
be right back and now back to the Dan Kapliss
Show podcast bringing us back. Yeah, he wasn't too bad.

(10:41):
I always when I do those imitations as either Tom
Petty or it could be Bob Dylan.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
They had some fumbling on Saturday Night Live, as I
recall as in they both sound similar, they do. Yeah,
and that might even be an homage. He's not around
to ask anymore Tom Petty Bob Dylan is He's still going?

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's right, is Bob Dylan. And I've seen him in
concert numerous times. Love Bob Dylan, and boy glad he's
still out there doing it. Maybe you might have to
say the voice isn't quite as graceful.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
As it used to be.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
They had a pretty low bar starting point. My mom
would always say, great poet, great writer, great songwriter, covered
by so many different artists, but he.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Had his own kind of way of talking singing.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
He does it fell Now you know what I'm coming
back with next break?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Uh oh yeah, let's go some Bob Dylan. Would there
have been a Tom Petty if there had not been
a Bob Dylan?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
First?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, wouldn't a Tom Petty walk into the studio
and they're listening to his voice and they're like.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
M weill uh next, that's a great point.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, And of course they did collaborate with the Traveling Wilbury's,
which was all too short lived because Roy Orbison passed away.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
And by the way, who was the fifth Willbury? Do
you know this?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Jeff Lynn? Oh yeah, this guy is pretty good. This
Ryan guy.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
I love those guys.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, all of them.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's a good album and you know what it's it's
enduringly good. People still listen to all of that again,
Matt Dunn, I'm in for Dan kaplis wonderful to be
in here and share a few thoughts. The phone number here,
should you be so inclined to touch base three oh
three seven one three eight two five five And the.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Text to studio.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't know if I should call it a hotline,
but it's five seven seven three line five seven seven
three nine and uh, text Dan, anytime you have a thought,
keep us on track. And there's a couple of texts
already here, doctor don How about dj t's approval rating
even higher than Barack Obama is in October of two

(12:47):
thousand and nine, Go Trump, Uh question. I haven't seen
the approval rating data, but I know it's high. It's
quite high. And when Trump first got into office back
in twenty sixteen, Oh, the power of the media. People
still believe the media then, I mean, now we're down
at eight percent, have a great deal of trust in
the media. We've come a long way. Trump approval rating

(13:09):
that you cite.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
And I've been trying to track this in the background
a little bit, but if I'm not mistaken, to the day,
it exceeds Barack Obama's approval rating at the same point
of his second term.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Okay, And that is just glorious. That is glory right there.
And that's how you know the American mind is being
set free. The American mind is just overcoming, breaking through,
cracking through all kinds of levels of nefarious propaganda. And
I'll tell you what, when when you think about how

(13:43):
long American media has been dominated by so few voices,
going back to you know, eighties, seventies, sixties and further back,
there really wasn't much And so in some ways there
may have been more agreement in this country on more
issue is because you'd only be exposed to know little
bits and slices and most of that establishment dominated, which

(14:05):
is kind of why the National Review, Bill Buckley's conservative
publication which came out, was an additional voice to be
brought in to compete against the time and the newsweek
of the day.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
But now, I mean the voices do proliferate.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
There's still a lot of control in there, but it's
it's frankly, in a lot of ways, never been a
better time to be an American citizens. You get exposed
to so much stuff, though there still is a lot
of a lot of control of our screens and is
what is put up upon them. And because the American
people spend so much time on screens and looking at
screens bombarded by images all the time that it's always

(14:40):
a risk that the people who can control what is
put up on your screen can have undue control over
your mind.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
But when you look at.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
This number eight percent with what is called considerable or
where did I jot that down? There's a phrase they
use high level of trust in me. I mean they
have earned that, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, how many
times can you come out with your propaganda and just

(15:08):
be flat wrong about everything, or events come out the
complete other way, or things just don't add up, And
eventually enough people get the seed planted in their minds, Hey,
I don't trust that. I remember what you guys said
last time, and that was wrong. And then they sort
of start to remember that when it happens enough and
here we are in a much better scenario now. One

(15:31):
thing I wanted to get to was this Russ Vott,
who's the director of OMB, who is touted by Donald
Trump is a great individual to go around cutting jobs, cutting.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
The federal workforce.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I was delighted to see him join the Trump cabinet.
And he's one of these individuals. He was at Heritage
Foundation in a long time when he's written some stuff
for some of the Claremont Institute publications, including The America Mind,
and he understands the problem of the administrative state. And

(16:08):
this is something that I think more and more people
are getting, more and more people are understanding. But it
used to be the province of basically only academics would
understand that. People like Jay Marini in the Claremont Institute
Orbit and Edward Erler, some folks that have written some
books about the administrative state and the nutshell and I

(16:28):
could go into it.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
More as the show goes on.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Is that some people got into power around the time
at Woodrow Wilson, you know, nineteen twelve fourteen, I'm not
sure what year he got his nineteen twelve, wasn't it,
And they had this belief, the leftist progressivism of the
day that golly, you know, the American people don't know
what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
They're not smart, they're not.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Educated, and people like Woodrow Wilson and US leftists, democrat
progressives really know what's better for the people and really
know how to run the country so much better than
the lowly American people, I mean, the founders, they didn't
know what they were doing. And basically we left as
progressives could write a much better constitution, and all those

(17:13):
old words written back in the Declaration seventeen seventy six
or the Constitution has came out in seventeen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I mean, those people were not.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Experts like we are today. So we have to throw
it all out, and we have to do it in
our own way. And we don't want to have too many,
too much voice from the American people having say in
how this government is run again, because you need expertise,
you need experts, and that is how the federal government

(17:45):
starting around then, became so massive and so bloated, full
of these experts, you know called federal government employees by
the millions in this country. And that was very, very
far from the vision of the founders of this country.
And Russ Vott is all over this. He understands this

(18:07):
in great detail. And he signed with Thomas Jefferson who said,
we are better off as a nation to have power
as close to the hands of the people, the actual
normal people who live here and work here and raise
families here. That's how you have a better, more stable,
more successful country. Russ Bott knows that not the unelecteds

(18:28):
be right back.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis show.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Podcast Capitalists, and I do know an awful lot of
Bob Dylan trivia. I'll just keep it brief. His first
live performance. Do you know where that was here in
the state of Colorado?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Ooh mm, gotta be a small venue, I would think,
very Yeah, yeah, central City.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Ooh, that's where Bob got his start, Central Colorado.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I think that's that's just a great bit of Bob
Dylan lore there. And I did read something somewhat recently,
not that it's that interesting, but Bob Dylan was on
tour somewhere, and I guess he's just prone to just
wandering off and walking off out in these cities where
he's on tour. And apparently he just was walking into

(19:27):
like an extraordinarily dangerous neighborhood somewhere. And I can't quite
pull out what city it was in, but you know,
you might say it was a rough place. Bob Dylan's
out there walking along and the police come up to
him and see, who is this strange, looking somewhat unkempt
individual walking around here? And of course Bob Dylan doesn't

(19:49):
have any idea on him, doesn't have a you know,
driver's license or whatever, you know, passport official papers, and
they ended up taking a down to the police station.
And I don't know if it was for his own
safety or they just thought he looked a little bit
suspicious or whatever.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
So they had to get Bob out of there and somewhere.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And I just thought that's a very Bob Dylan story,
just the free spirit carrying the spirit of the sixties
forward and still doing it out there.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Have you seen Doctor Dunn the movie A Mighty Wind? No,
Early two thousands, So it's that same comedy troupe that
did Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show. Christopher Guest,
Michael McKeon, Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, etc. I think you'd
really like it. For one, I think I would. For two,
it's all about folk music. This one A Mighty Wind
and the scene you just describe. I don't want to
get too much away if you haven't seen the movie,

(20:43):
especially those out there, but Eugene Levy plays this kind
of space cadet former folk singer. It reminds you like
if Bob Dylan and Jerry Garcia were crossed. The look
and his attitude is kind of and he just wanders off,
just like you just described, just kind of won his
own way.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, like Bob Dylan has wont to do.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
There is another way, people, there is another way, and
oh you got to.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Listen to them.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, all right, should we get back to sirius. It's
hard to do that when I just heard this on
the news feed that Copper Mountain is starting snowmaking. Mmm
mmmmmm yeah, let's let's get the snowmaking going. Hopefully the
snowmakers won't have to work over time because we'll get
so much, plenty of snow around here this year.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Skiing, I think, boy, that's.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
That's got to be central to a lot of people's lives,
including my own yours. Truly around here Colorado kids started
skiing at the age.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Of about three or was it four.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's hard to remember, But just even hearing that, I
still get that little tingle, you know, you get that,
Oh boy, here comes ski season. And I will say
I admit to being a little bit relieved that it's
just not so darn hot these days. But that was
a hot summer, was it not. And I won't even
describe how much water I had to put on my

(22:04):
lawn to keep it from turning utterly brown this year.
That was when those bills come in. You tend to
sit up and notice. And I think we're through that now,
and they're already snowmaking. I drove over Eisenhower through the
tunnel two weeks ago and got snowed on.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
So I have already seen some snow this year.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And oh, glory, glory, let's just start feeling it, and
let's have our best live and our best ski season
this year. And I know we can get caught up
and all the noise about politics, but a certain amount
of detachment and doing the right things to help keep
this country going.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
But you know, a little grain of salt.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
But it's easier to do that when we have I
think the good guys are in power right now and
doing very very well, doing very good things for this country.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Quick textas studio quote.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Actually, there would not have been a Tom Petty if
there had not have been an Elvis Presley. Tom Tom
met Elvis when he was twelve, down in Florida on
the set of an Elvis movie. Follow that dream that
was his inspiration to start playing guitar and singing. So Elvis,

(23:19):
obviously the one of the truest and tried American icons
and oh yeah, I'm an Elvis guy. I love the gospel,
by the way. That's that's where I've got everything he
ever recorded in that in that genre, and they just
can't be surpassed, from the early stuff, you know, in
the in the Sun studios in Memphis, to later on

(23:40):
with the huge backing vocals and the sweat bands and
all that, and and crawling around the stage all the
things he was doing. At any rate, I wanted to
finish a little bit about about Russ Vaught and you know,
this government shut down, Paula. Who's gonna blink first? It
is a game of chicken in a ways. And you know,

(24:01):
during the news I heard it mentioned that the Democrats
feel like they have.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
The momentum on this.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
And does anybody sense that who feels the Democrats have
momentum on this?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I don't sense it.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Usually, my antennae are extraordinarily sensitive and they vibrate very intensely,
and I can kind of pick up on the vibes
of what's going on in the heart and soul of
this nation. But I think that the Democrats are playing
defense here. I think they know that the business of
shutting down the government in order to, you know, facilitate

(24:35):
taxpayer dollars going to healthcare for illegal aliens. You know,
I just don't think that's that's flying.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't think that's working out too well.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
And actually, one thing while we're on this, can we
play that that clip eighteen of VP Vans getting to
this exact point on that. Let's go ahead and hit
that and do we Oh, no problem, do we have
that clip? It's number eighteen. Vice President jd. Vance on

(25:06):
the funding for illegal aliens gives me one of the
Amitabule bill.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
President Trump and congressional Republicans turned off that money to
healthcare funding for illegal aliens. The Democrats want to turn
it back on. And in their initial proposal, the first
thing that they put out to reopen the government, they
actually turned that money for healthcare benefits for illegal aliens
back on. So it's not something that we made up.
It's not a talking point. It is in the text

(25:31):
of the bill that they initially gave to us to
reopen the government. It's preposterous for them to run away
from it now. But look, let's set that all to
the side. Let's open up the government. Let's negotiate on
all these healthcare policy issues. Obviously, we're not going to
support healthcare benefits for illegal aliens, but we will work
with them to lower healthcare costs for American citizens if

(25:53):
they're willing.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
To do so. That sounds like common sense to me.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And does it seem in a way that the Democrats
are backed into a corner? And you know, I do
think the Democrats are a party that they are struggling
right now. And you know, the higher they raise their
voices and the more they''re going back to the old,
tried and true let's shut down the government because that's
how they've had some victories in the past. Let's do
that again. It's the old playbook. But is it not

(26:19):
a tired old playbook? And do you sense that the
Democrat Party really has its feet on the ground right
now after you know, the four years of Biden and
the chaos that was involved in that, Yeah, I say chaos.
Nobody really knew who was president or who was really
running the show. And it seemed like the Democrats kind
of ended up proving to the American people that they

(26:40):
were a little too weird and a little too strange
and a little too unstable to really deserve to be
in power in this country and has anything filled that
void yet? Do you sense anything, anything of substance that
is coming in or do you sense just, I don't know,
the same old playbook days gone by?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
And does it ring a bit hollow?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Does it ring a bit hollow?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Especially when the backing of the mainstream media is only
trusted by essentially eight percent of the American population.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I just don't think it's working. But if they, if
they can come out on top of this shut down,
then then you know that Republicans have to have some
work to do because this, at this point, I believe
this should be what you might call a gimme all right, Hey,
Matt don in for Dan Caplis, be right back in

(27:34):
a flash.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Well that's an emotional song for me, doctor Dunn, How
is that, mister Ryan?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, real short story.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
So my mom passed away of cancer back in November
of twenty twenty two. Okay, in the hospital room where
she had been staying it, I noticed it was really
sterile and dark and like no color, no sound, and
I didn't like that for her. So I went and
I got a boombox as we called him, yeah yeah,
and then got what you mentioned kind of sparked the memory.

(28:14):
Her collection of Elvis and his gospel song. She was
all over that, Uh, goodnight, brightened her her mood. I
sat down next to her and held her hand as
Elvis sang Amazing Grace. And that's one of my lasting
memories I've heard there toward the end.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, thanks Ryan for sharing that. And boy as when
Elvis was starting out as a singer, apparently he said
that all he wanted to do is be a gospel singer.
That's right, that's what he wanted. Those were his life.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Like you said, those are by far his favorite songs
to sing were gospel.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Song and you can feel because he grew up with those.
They were in and out of his Ears church, you know,
every Sunday for that Presley family. And that's why I
think there's something in particular about the Southern music culture
imbued with that. Maybe is it fair to say more
than other regions of America? Absolutely that they can feel it,
and I feel it. And then when they sing.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
It, you hear in soul and gospel rhythm and blues,
which derives from that. I know you're a student of music,
even more so.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Than I am.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
And yeah, not hardly, but you do to your point, doctor,
do you feel that? And Elvis Presley, you know, revered
his mother and unfortunately she died rather young and when
he was rather.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Young, and that was something that stayed with him his
whole life too.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Absolutely, And boy, what a treat to be playing some
of this stuff around here the Dan Caplis show Matt
Dunn sitting in today a few.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
More of these texts to studio real quick.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
TEXTA says pleased to hear the Tom Petty story. Now
the texter says Trump should have nicknamed Biden Bob. And Okay,
I'm not getting the logic yet.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Kelly's laughing. Maybe she knows. Kelly knows, Kelly knows what
this means.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Maybe just struck her as funny that they call him bob?
Is that because he thinks that Joe would confused.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
His own name?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah? Could, but it could have an ulterior motive.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, well, Kelly, Kelly knows.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
And maybe during the break, we're going to there we go,
how do you spell bob backwards?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Again?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
By oh? Any sing?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Another text government shut down favors President's party due to
back office matters. That could be true, that could explain
some of the Clinton v. Gingrich scenario. And then another
text of advisor start referring to President Biden as President
Atto Penn.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Oh yeah, I mean that is.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
How about the portraits he's got up in the White House.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Now he's got his own forty five portrait, his forty
seven and in between the forty six President, there's a
Penn auto pen.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I mean, how good a patrol is he?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Seriously, no one's ever had a better since of humor
than as president. I gotta say a ae trollius and
he put up his mugshot.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Another onehot is in the oval, right, Yeah, Well the
auto pen, there's kind of, you know, a bit of
a swirling contrary.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Who was actually operating the auto pen? And we'll probably
never know. I don't know if we'll ever get to
the bottom of that one, but you know, it's the
people behind the scenes, the people behind the curtains. It's
a person who has the cocaine bag. Oh that and
we never got to the bottom of that one, now,
did we? Yeah? Yeah, A bag of whites was found

(31:34):
in the white House, touching text to studio here quote
so sorry to hear hear the loss of Ryan's mom
just some years ago. I did not know this, but
I should have. Thank you, Ryan, Yeah, thank you for that.
To really appreciate texture. The autopen actually does lead to
sort of the finale on my thinking on you know what,

(31:57):
rest Vot understands the administrative state and would side with
putting power in the hands of the people, in the
hands of the voters and the American citizens, rather than
in the hands of what Woodrow Wilson Fdr LBJ. Barack
Obama would call the experts, the credentialed experts who tend
to be leftist, progressive and believe the American people should

(32:19):
not be allowed to make decisions about their government or about.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Their daily lives.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
When it comes down to it, then they're not entitled
to the fruits of their own labor. They're essentially working
for the state. They're working for the machine, and the
machine needs to be run by these credentialed experts, just
like you know the leftist crowd, the progressives you see
running the bureaucracy, and again millions of them. Rus Vaught

(32:44):
is out there talking about chopping hundreds of thousands of
them and using, as Trump is saying, this unprecedented opportunity
by the Democrats shutting down the government to start, you know, turning.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
The tide the other direction.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's always been a one way ratchet in this country.
And again you go on a kind of a direct
line from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to LBJ to Obama,
where the government only grows. There's more federal employees, and
they squeeze power out of the hands of the people.
They've kind of usurped power from the hands of the people.
And even Congress there's you know, what's your question mark there?

(33:19):
What can Congress do with the branch of government supposedly
the closest to the people as the founders intended. They
don't even read the bills anymore. They don't write the
bills anymore. They're written by essentially bureaucrats and lobbyists. That's
how our government is running. And I would just submit
that the closer we can get back to the founder's

(33:39):
intention of having the people running the show is how
much better off we would be. And does that mean
everybody's an expert or does that mean everybody's going to
agree with, you know, may or Ryan or Kelly's take
on politics. No, alas and isn't that a tragedy? But
that's that's the way it goes. But you need to
set up ament done the faith at least that allowing

(34:02):
that mechanism to work, the people to have the maximum power,
the maximum say in the voting, and how this country
is run is better off. When you got a side
with Jefferson on that, Abraham Lincoln the same deal exactly.
So what if things went the other way? You know,
Bill Buckley on experts. Bill Buckley said he'd rather be
governed by a random one hundred people chosen out of

(34:23):
the Boston phone book than by the credentialed experts in there. Now,
think about that one. That's that's spot on.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
Be right back
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