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April 16, 2025 34 mins
In the first hour today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan is joined by Matt Krascek, the owner of pizza parlor 'Frank The Pizza King' to talk about Krascek's GoFundMe that is attempting to save the small business as the owner of the building attempts to throw them out with minimal notice.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time to fight the now, but we can have fun
doing it. Three h three someone three eight two five
five text DN five seven seven three nine hey five
oh six. Don't miss it. We're going to have the
Dan Kaplis Show. School of Medicine opens its stores today.
This is going to be a regular segment and it's
going to be value added in a way that that's
really hard to find anywhere else. And that is on

(00:23):
the civil rights issue of our lifetime, which of course
is abortion, the mass taking of innocent life. And so
but I understand that most people have settled into their positions,
and there are the talking points and all of this
and all of that, and I get it, and there
is no more serious issue. A lot of serious issues,
but none more serious than that, because if they kill you,

(00:44):
then the rest of the issues just don't matter. But
here's what we're going to bring that no matter where
you are on the spectrum on this issue, you're going
to value this because this is a doctor. This is
a doctor, This is a doctor has done many, many,
many many abortions, and this doctor is going to be
here to talk to you about the medical side of this.

(01:07):
I won't call it medicine because it's not medicine when
you're killing an innocent human. But the medical side of this,
the clinical side of this, and what really happens during
an abortion. But what are the medical realities here? And
so that's going to be at five six with doctor
Catherine Willer, and what a courageous person she is because
again she did abortions, she did abortions for a living,

(01:31):
and then she obviously realized how wrong that was and
now is very active in pro life circles. So doctor
and Catherine Willer at doctor Catherine Wheeler at four oh six,
and we will be talking about doctrine. We'll be talking
about medicine and what the simple clinical truth is. And
I just think it's so helpful for everybody to know that. Obviously,

(01:51):
as a guy who wants these innocent lives save, not killed,
I want people to know the clinical medical truth because
then a lot of people who support legalized abortion won't
support it once they know the clinical medical truth. But again,
no matter where you are on this spectrum, you should
want the truth and see if you can handle the truth.

(02:13):
I know that if your pro life you can. What
I've found though, because I've known so many fantastic people
over the years who happen to be pro abortion, they
have this blind spot. And you know what I've found,
and I can be guilty of this myself in other
ways than other issues, But what I've found is that
they just kind of use these mental tricks to block out,

(02:38):
to wall off the reality of abortion, because if they
had to face that reality, then they could not support
legalized abortion on demand. So the constant, relentless pursuit of
the truth, that's what we're all about. I'm glad you're
here to help three out three someone three eight two
five five text DN five seven seven three nine. Of course,

(02:58):
will continue to talk about the latest with Michael Bennett
because it's so much fun. It's funny, it's interesting, and
it's kind of a joyous optimistic thing, right because it's
given a lot of people in the GOP a sense
of hope and life that, yeah, hey, we really could
win the governor's office because the opponent's going to be
Michael Bennett. And we'll get into that, including fascinating to

(03:21):
me that he's decided to run on first that he's
going to stay in the Senate, and second he's going
to point his own successor and Third, he's going to
do away with the taxpayer Bill of Rights, And so
he's right up front about that, he's going to do
away with the taxpayer Bill of Rights. And what do
you think Colorado would look like right now if we

(03:42):
had not at Taper all these years? So we will
have that conversation. Also, one I'm looking forward to because
this has been close to my heart for so many years,
is how do we get rid of old math, that
hideous public art out at the airport and the most
prominent spot in all of Colorado for public art, or
at one spot that can most make a statement to

(04:02):
people from all over the world about who we are.
And we have maybe the worst possible, maybe the worst
imaginable piece of art up there right now to represent
who we are. Because listen, I understand the left is
trying to make us a drugged up population because that's
more dependent on government. But we are still not a

(04:25):
strung out, meth addicted population. And that's why they call
it old math, at least I do, because that looks
like a horse on math that hasn't eaten for six
months and has just completely lost its mind. That's not
who we are as a people. So what should it
be replaced with? That's the fun part is what should

(04:45):
it be replaced with? What would really typify and symbolize
us as a people across party lines, across all of
these lines. What would it be? Three or three? Someone
three eight two five five text d an five seven
seven three nine. Jump in any of that and anytime,
we're gonna have a special guest from Frank's Pizza. There

(05:05):
was an article in the Denver Post today and if
you're from Denver, South Denver Suburbs, etc. You probably know
if this iconic pizza place on South Broadway. It's been there.
I think the first customer was Moses, right. I mean
it has been there literally forever, and Amy and I
have been ordering it since we moved in on our

(05:26):
wedding night. We didn't have it on our wedding night.
We wanted it, but they were closed. But yeah, so
it's been their way over thirty years. Because we've been
married now thirty going on thirty one, and it's being
run out by a new landlord who's taken over. So
you'm an interest story. We will talk to one of
the owners of Frank's. But then it also triggers one
of my other favorite topics, which is what's the best

(05:49):
pizza in Colorado? And I'm not saying in town, because
you're probably the same way now, right for a really
good pizza, you'll go anywhere. I mean, you'll have it
shipped in if you can't for a really good pizza.
And I was spoiled in so many ways growing up
on the South side of Chicago and then the southwest
side of Chicago. And you know, because he just had

(06:09):
some of the best pizza in the world. And Ryan
to ever tell you that that I brought the gentleman
out who founded the original player most pizza in Chicago,
which is just I mean, right now, I want to
run out of here and just find one and eat it.
But it's just you can't even describe how good it is.
But flem out here, Amy and I did. He didn't
speak much English, and we flew him out here just

(06:32):
to see if it'd be possible to open one here.
And we spent two or three days together and had
a great time. And then in the end he concluded
he could not because he couldn't get all the fresh
ingredients he needed here at a price people could afford.
And like the typical pizza that in Chicago we would
get for X out here would be two x because

(06:54):
all those fresh ingredients, etc. Would just cost so much
more out here. But so sad. And then I tell
you how that ended. Oh man, it's heartbreaking. After he
flew home, we saw him off, he flew home. I
called just to see how his trip home was. His
son answered the phone and he was dead. What yeah, yeah,
damn he got home. He was crossing the street and

(07:16):
got hit by car. Just terrific, yes, but just Palermo's
pizza you can still get at sixty thirty Kedzie in Chicago.
Just some of the best pizza in the world. So
we'll do a drop with the owner of Frank see
if there's any way to save Franks on South Broadway,
and then talk a little bit about the best pizza
in Colorado, because I'm still searching for him. And the

(07:37):
last time we did this topic, some folks suggested Anthony's. Right,
So I've been ordering up Anthony's and having it delivered.
It's been really good. It's been good to eat, and
then it's been good like four hours later, because you
know how some pizzas are good to eat. And then
four hours later, it's Gold nine one one. Yeah, but
not Anthony's. Anthony's has been very very good that way, Ryan,

(08:00):
Just to kick it off before we hit this break,
what is your favorite of the many, many entertaining Michael
Bennett bites today.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, yeah, I got all those clips from Colorado's Morning
News today and on your topic, and maybe we'll hit
this out of the brake. Yeah, he's trying to tap
dance around Tabor. He gives the kind of lip service.
Oh he's Oh, we'll play that. You think he's tap dancing.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I think he's made it very clear that he is
out to end Tabor. But well, we'll go to break
with this one. Then we have much more ahead. It
won't be all Michael Bennett. As much fun as that is.
You're on the Dan Kapla show.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
You would not accept donations from billionaires going forward?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, I have.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm one of the very few members of the Senate
who does not accept corporate pack money for example. I
don't exactly, I don't, so I'm not if you're asking
about independent expenditure of billionaires, I haven't thought that through
because I'm not in a position to be able to

(09:07):
make a judgment about that. I'm not sure I'm missing
your misunderstanding.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh my lord, he needs to drop out right now
here on the DANKPLA.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Show going forward?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Is that what you're saying, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Have wait a second. This is not a tough question.
This is a direct question. You're on National TV. You
wanted to be there. They did not kidnap you. Nobody
threw a hood over your head, put you in a
trunk and dragged you off to see ann headquarters. You
wanted to be there, Michael Bennett, and they're asking you
a direct question, are you going to accept money from billionaires?

(09:55):
Because Michael Bennett, it's fabulous to watch right now that
you could go to comedy works and not have as
much fun because he's out there now. He is the
ultimate elitist, right the Even Kyle Clark called him out
on that, the ultimate East Coast blue blood, silver spoon elitist.
And he's out there running like a populist against the
Democratic Party of which he has been the central casting

(10:19):
member for decades. And so now he's trying to play
mister common man, you know, mister populist. And so she
asked him a simple question, are you going to take
money from billionaires? And then you listen to the way
he stumbles. But here's the problem. It's not to make
fun of my stumble all the time. That's not the point.
The point is why you're stumbling. He's stumbling because he's lying.

(10:41):
He's stumbling because he won't tell the truth. And if
you're going to run for this office, at least tell
people the truth. And if you're telling the truth, unless
you're having a stroke, you don't have to stumble like that.
So as you listen to all of this, it's because
he doesn't want to tell the truth that of course
he's taking money from billionaires.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
I'm one of the very few members of the Senate
who does not accept corporate pack money. For example, I
don't accept I don't, so I'm not if you're asking about, well,
you don't have to accept the corporate pack money when
the billionaires are writing the big checks.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
That's the Democratic Party right now, and the Republicans have
some of this going on too, but the Democratic Party
are far left. Billionaires writing big checks that determine the
outcome of primaries, so you don't have to take pack money,
and all this and that if the billionaires are taking
care of.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
You independent expenditures of billionaires. I haven't thought that through
because I'm not in a position to be able to
make a judgment about that. I'm not sure I'm missing
your misunderstanding your questions.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I think that at the end, I'm sorry, that's a
disqualifier that is so blatantly false. She asks a good question, Okay,
how are you taking money from billionaires? And he ends
it by saying, I don't understand your question, all because
he's unwilling to tell the truth. But this points out

(12:16):
another thing right about Michael Bennett. First, just let's see
the spirit of Holy Week. The lack of candor, right,
the lack of candor, but also the lack of skill.
And when it comes to the governor's office, even if
you're going to have somebody you differ with ideologically, they
need to have a certain skill set to be able
to be governor of the state because that's very hands

(12:37):
on and there's a lot that goes into it, managing
crisis is etc. Communications. That just shows a lack of
skill to not be ready for that question and then
to look and sound so awful in fact that they
mocked that on Fox, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Ryan?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That was so bad. That's what this Jesse Waters thing is, right?
What was that answer right there? Dan? Gosh, that was
so awkward. I'm like balling my hands up like listening
to this because I don't know if you can die
from secondhand cringe, but I think we just did. That
was really bad. I mean, you've got to have a
better answer than that. Come on, you've been in Congress,
come on, yeah, the better answer is the truth. But then,

(13:17):
I mean, think about everything it tells you about Michael
Bennett that he would end that with, uh yeah, I
really I just don't get your question. But again, that's
a d C creature born in DC, raised in d C,
lives in d C. That's a d C creature who

(13:39):
if he ever did have the ability to just answer
a question directly and tell the truth, he lost it
during all of these years in d C. And now
he's going to come back to Colorado. But again it
shows how little he thinks of you and me and
all the rest of us that he thinks he can
blow back here and pretend to be the populist running

(13:59):
against the Dmocratic Party. And then a simple question like oh,
you can take money from billionaires. Yeah. Oh, I just
don't understand your question. All right, Dan says a Texter
crosscut pizzeria and tap house. The rest. I can't tell
you it's top secret. Do you think a lot of
people ryan hide their favorite places, their favorite restaurants, their

(14:21):
favorite pizza places? Huh? I mean other than being a
good human, which should be our top priority.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Right, What.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Upside would there be to you in sharing that information?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I can offer one. It's not necessarily pizza, although I
think it might be on the menu Gaetanos, which is
an authentic Italian restaurant Denver, a little bit on the
west side from downtown. You have to call and book
reservations several weeks, if not months in advance, So I'm
not giving away the game.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
There well outstanding Italian food. But do you think a
lot of people hide their favor place?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, if it's like a hole in the wall joint
that you don't want to get too popular, then yeah,
I could totally see.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I bet a lot of people in that places, even
from their friends.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Well those are very close friends, are they circles?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Ship? Do you do that? Never? Never? But since we
got married, we don't go out much. I mean I
should say this since we had kids, right, true, because
the first couple of years married, without kids, we are
out all the time doing these charity things, isn't that?
But once we had kids, we just don't get out
that much. And when you do, you want to go
where you can have a good burger. Oh there is

(15:32):
that is so true that that should be a whole
other shows. You know, we're in search. It's harder, I think,
to find the great pizza. I don't know if it's
our altitude or what it is. It's harder to find
the great pizza than the great burger, I think now.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And I think I know the answer because you tend
to not go for the deep dish necessarily, even though
you're from Chicago, right.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Would what a skim that is the way? A second?
That is not Chicago pizza. That was a gimmick. Chicago
pizza is in cruss okay, crispy, just great, high quality.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So how do you feel about Bojo's was like a
costitution but probably I don't even know who owns it now,
but the guy who used tone it and you get
him on the show and stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But you liked him. Oh yeah, yeah, like you don't
love it? I guess I don't even look at it
as pizza. And Bojo's is high quality, don't get it wrong.
I would define it as some other really good kind
of food. But when I think pizza, the deep dish stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, well, how do you feel about Detroit style pizza?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
What is that? Is it like with holes in it?
Bullet holes in it? Why would you say that?

Speaker 2 (16:34):
No, it's rectangular and you got kind of like the
slightly burnt cheese on the outer crust.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Oh, I like that. Have you been to bluepan No
you have not. No, we have some blue people.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Well you got to do that.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Another one that just opened up within the last calendar
year is Via three to one three and that's down
in Centennial And oh really is that fancy or is
it normal pizza?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
That's Detroit style?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Like I'm talking, okay, okay, And I would highly recommend
of those choices.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, well, Dan, I think old math symbolizes what Colorado
has become. Just fine, And there's a I don't agree
with that. There's a little bit of truth in it, right,
because the left has tried to make us the drug
capital of the world and unfortunately succeeded because the left
knows the more people on drugs, the more dependent they're
going to be on government. But we're not there yet.

(17:22):
And that's another great reason to just get rid of
old maths out of DIA and replace it with something
that really kind of epitomizes us. Best suggestion I've heard
so far from a listener I think would be some enormous,
beautifully done version of the cowboy on the back of
a bucking bronco. I love it. Yeah, Now we have

(17:44):
another suggestion right where you have these big oversize you
ever heard in the field big oversize beautiful? You have
some bulls cows have a steer, But you know that
that could also be written but that bucking bronco. And
now do you think some people would object that, hey,
it's a guy and not a female, or should it
be a cowgirl on the bronco? All sorts of possibilities

(18:07):
artistic license here on the Dan Capitlo Show theme. It's
good to be king one of the really iconic pizza
places in all of Colorado, and it happens to be
out on South Broadway. And so you know, we've been

(18:29):
able to take full advantage of it is this wonderful,
beautiful spot in this quaint little building off Broadway, and
it's called Frank the Pizza King, and it's been here,
I think, as long as the Rockies have been here.
And I pick up the Denver Post this morning and
I read that Frank's may be going away, and Matt

(18:50):
Crosscheck is kind enough to be with us. Matt is,
as I recall, at least the grandson of Frank the
Pizza King, and my wife and I have been ordering
look Early for thirty plus years from Franks. We love
stopping in there. I was shocked to see it this morning. So,
since you are an iconic establishment in Colorado, Matt, I
wanted to share my grief with everybody and popy on

(19:12):
what's going on?

Speaker 3 (19:13):
My friend, I really appreciate you having me on. Been
a rough couple of days for sure. Here.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, tell us about it. Wait, is there anything people
can do?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, we just started to GoFundMe. We have a petition
the people assigned. I think we have a well over
two thousand signatures as of right now last time I looked.
But yeah, I mean our GoFundMe is to maybe try
to talvage this building and if not, get some funds
to try to maybe open up a new location, hopefully

(19:46):
somewhere here in the at least in the footprint of Englewood,
so we can keep our customers and keep that rolling.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, what happened? How did this come up?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
So our building is the the original owner. We never
owned the building unfortunately, but the original owner contacted us
last Thursday and told us that he was getting ready
to accept an offer that he was going to take
from a new owner, and they told us that they

(20:18):
wanted to have us vacate the premises. So he said,
you probably about a month left, So we're looking maybe
towards the end of May is what we're kind of
hoping that we were at least here till then. But
other than that, it's kind of just been a whirlwind.
I mean, we've been in a great outreach from the community.

(20:39):
I mean we're NonStop busy. The phones are ringing off
the hook. We're running out of product. I mean we've
been re stocking and reloading as much as possible, and
it's been a hectic a couple of days, for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
How long has Frank the Pizza King been there?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
We've been in business for sixty four years oh Man,
same location. So it's I mean I grew up there.
I mean, my whole life's been there. My my dad
and my aunt's whole life has been to this restaurant.
So it's it's a pretty devastating. We're we're really upset,
and our hearts are broken, and you know, we're really

(21:16):
upset for not just us as a family, but I mean,
I like to call our employees and our customers Frank's family,
and that's what we all are. And so I'm getting
a little emotional, but it's devastating. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, I will not even imagine. I mean, because like
you say, you grew up there, you grew up there
probably watching your grandfather, you know, do everything that he did.
And and like the community, everybody knows Franks is will
they give you a chance to buy the building?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I think the building is all as far as I know,
that's already sold. And we have not been in contact
with the new owners. The only contact we've had is
with the original owner, and he said, yeah, the the
new people want you out, So well, what if I
want you out in about a month or so.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
What are the new people going to do with it
that I.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Have no idea. My guess is what else? Yeah, knock
it down and build something out another car lot.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, well, I think we need to find out who
the new owners are and appeal to them. I mean,
they're not doing anything illegal or anything wrong or anything
like that. But this is this is an institution. What
is the GoFundMe?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
So the go fundmeeds kind of just to either help
us potentially try to stay in the building or pay
for whatever we need to pay for it here, or
most likely funds going towards a new location for rent
or for purchasing a building or anything like that. So
I mean it's I mean we've yeah, we've been doing

(22:48):
this for sixty four years, and I mean it's pretty
much all I've ever known. It's all my dad and
my aunt, my mom I have ever known. So it's
it's our livelihood, and it's it's breaking all our heart.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And you won't find harder working people than Matt and
the people at Frank's. And I meant to ask a
better question. Where can people find the GoFundMe? What is
it called?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's just a go fund me. It's on our Facebook
and Instagram page. Okay, they can find them both there.
My guess is a lot of people are going to
be sharing it, so kind of just keep your eye
open on Facebook. But yeah, as of right now, it's
I mean everything that is going down with updates, go
fund me page, the everything is up there. So everything's

(23:39):
going on there.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
And if you do have to move in the end,
you think you'll stay somewhere in the area.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would love to. I mean, Inglewood's our home. It's
been our home for sixty four years, so I mean
it's I'd love to sustain Ingwood if possible, and if not,
I want to try to move close enough to where
Inglewood can still and support us and still enjoy our food.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah and oh man, and.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Still be part of our Frank's family.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
And same ovens right because I have to believe the
ovens are part of the secret.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Oh yeah, original ovens mine. My grandfather bought them and
install them and they've been pumping out pizzas ever since.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Wow. How many pizzas do you think have come out
of those ovens?

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Some millions? Wow?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Half to sixty four years? What My final question grateful
for your time today. I know it's a really busy
tough day, but what is your single most powerful memory
of all of those years at Frank's.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's a great question. Probably all my employees, all my friends.
I mean there you know that my friends do. And
just being able to work with all these people that
have poured their you know, bloodsweat and peers into the
location and into our business and kind of you know,
just fought for us, the cross Chech family, and really

(25:06):
they're all part of our family, and it's just you know,
seeing just all that's my biggest memory is just how
much of all of our employees. I mean we've had
people here for forty thirty twenty years. I mean it's yeah,
I mean I think that says something that you know,
oh yeah, we're they're loyal to us, and we're loyal
to them, and and just you know, that's you don't

(25:29):
see that anymore. And we're just very grateful for all
of they've done for us and continue to do for us.
I mean, they're busting their bus right now. I mean
we've been campacked all day. We had to close down
from three to five just to kind of prep for
tonight because we ran out of everything. So oh man,
oh man.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And and again hopefully people will support the gofund me.
So you can either stay there or reopen somewhere else.
And well, let's stay in touch on this map because
you guys. I mean, if Norman Rockwell was live today,
he would paint Frank the Pizza King. He would go
over there and he would he would paint your dining room,
he would paint the people working in the kitchen, the

(26:09):
people eating there. It's as all American as you can
get and just serving people from all walks of life.
It's just the best of who we are. And so wow, man,
just wish you the best and we won't add to
your burden tonight, but we will will add to your
burden in the next couple of days.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Harvey All, Hey, Dan, I appreciate you so much. I
appreciate your long You know, you've been the customer of
ours forever. And trust me, we are very appreciative of
you pas coming in and continue to pitche in our business.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh we will wherever you are, we will. I mean,
even if you don't reopen somewhere, we'll be knocking on
your kitchen door. So hey, come on, for your own sake,
you better reopen somewhere.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yes, sir, Yeah, we love to have you. Like I said,
it's you're part of our Frank family and then that's
never going to change.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So well, really appreciate that. And the kids grown up
with it, I mean since they were since they could
put anything in their mouth. But it's been Frank's pizza.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
But well, Matt, the family's coming in and oh it's
very special. I believe for all the outpour we've gotten.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
You deserve all of that. And well, Matt, keep up
the good fight and we'll hope for the best here,
hope if everybody goes to the GoFundMe.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I appreciate you, brother, thank you so much for having
me on you take care.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Thank you Matt. That that cross checked again. They've been
there sixty four years.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Here's what I'm going to do, Dan, I've just access
the GoFundMe page and a lot of listeners might have
a question about that. I'm going to send that link
to you via text and I'm also going to put
up on our six thirty k how X page slash Twitter,
so you'll have access to the link there.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
If you follow six thirty.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
K how on ax, you can go directly there.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Great, and please give that some thought because He's it
truly does represent kind of the best of who we are.
It's just so impressive what this family has done over
sixty four years. Three out three seOne, three eight, two
five five text d An five seven seven, three nine
When to pick back? A lot of news to cover
in terms, including the Trump administration moving to terminate tax

(28:11):
exempt status of Harvard. You're on the Dan Kapla show,
told that they have to move out within a month.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Try to picture this, Dan, whoever the new landlord, owner
of the property, whatever is you come into that. You
know this is an institution, You know of its historical
significance to the community. Heck, Dan, in Michigan, this might
be a historical landmark that you cut a great tear down.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's a great point because it is a freestanding, very
unique structure. Yeah right, No, that's a great point.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
I wonder if we need to have a human circle
around Franks stop the bulldozers.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, I have a feeling Dan that not only will
your interview serve as a flashpoint for this, but just
judging by Matt, the passion that his family has for
this establishment, the way that he values you and so
many others in our listening audience as a loyal customer.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
People are going to rally.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
This has a funny way of working out, and whether
it's at that specific location or maybe they have to move.
I think we're going to figure a way out through this.
And like I said, I've got the go fundme post
two in our.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Six because listen, I mean's Franks has to continue. It
has to survive. You know, the community depends on it.
It's at first it's it's hard to get really good pizza,
and that's really good pizza. That's why they've been around
sixty four years. Do you hear him say the original
loves that remains.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
This is an authentic joint. Like there's a place in Lansing,
Michigan called Arts Bar and the outer building burned down,
but the ovens survive and they rebuilt the restaurant around
their the ovens and it's the same piece that you're
getting there the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, so one way or the other, in the interest
of the community, it needs to survive. It also needs
to survive because of what it means symbolically, you know,
the character of it and built the right way. Sixty
four years, family business, whole community has grown up there.
He says, they've gone through the generations. I mean it's amazing,
you know, like they've seen our kids right from the

(30:21):
time they were newborns, and we'd be bringing them in
there until now one of these days, soon our kids
will be bringing their kids in there. I mean, that's
the kind of place that needs to survive. Anyway, glad
you're here so much. We're talking about five oh six.
I hope you're here for that. Doctor Catherine Wheeler, who
used to be an abortionist, will be with us at
five oh six and we'll be talking about clinically, medically,

(30:44):
the true, undeniable medical reality of abortion. And you know,
the big abortion industry, the pro abortion folks, they try
to run from this, They try to gloss it over.
They won't even use the A word anymore because people
have seen enough alter sounds that they know abortion is
the taking of an innocent human life. So they call
it reproductive freedom or some other goofiness because they want

(31:07):
to run from the truth. But this brave doctor who
used to do abortions will be here to give you
the medical, the clinical reality of abortion, and if nothing else,
you will leave that segment much better informed than probably
in ninety nine percent of the people out there who
are pushing legalized abortion, because I think many of those

(31:29):
folks they just try to wall that off, close their
mind to it, etc. And there are a lot of
good people who do that. It doesn't mean they're bad people,
they just they don't want to face the realities of it.
It's so much easier in society to be pro abortion,
and a lot of people have found themselves in challenging
circumstances and turned to that. Heck, are special guests used

(31:50):
to do abortions for money? And then she realized that no,
this is fundamentally wrong, and she's been among those now
trying to save innocent lives. So yeah, it'll be a
very clinical segment, just getting into the medical realities of
abortion that coming up at five oh six. Wow, so
many other issues we played earlier, and I have to
play for you now because it's just so revealing. And

(32:12):
it's not to make fun of the guy. It's just
to make fun of the guy, but it's also to
just point out that Michael Bennett doesn't have the skill
set to be the governor of the state of Colorado.
Governor actually takes some of these skills, the ability to
be prepared to speak, to address tough issues, to try

(32:33):
to persuade, and then listen. Here he's on CNN taking
a very predictable question about whether he accepts money from billionaires.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You would not accept donations from billionaires going forward, is
that what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Well, I.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Have, I'm one of the very few members of the
Senate who does not accept corporate.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Pack money for example.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Set I don't, so I'm not I if you're asking
about independent expenditures of billionaires, I haven't thought that through
because I'm not in a position to be able to
make a judgment about that. I'm not sure I'm missing
your misunderstanding your question.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
My goodness, he's obviously he's not misunderstanding the question. He
doesn't want to tell the truth, which should be the
first disqualifier, right, If you're not willing to tell people
the truths, you shouldn't be running for the office, and
you certainly shouldn't be running for the office at the
same time you're holding another office. You won't give up,
and you certainly shouldn't then be telling people, you know what,
I'm going to hold that other office. I won't get

(33:39):
up until I win this office and then I'm going
to appoint my successor to the other office. I mean,
that is as corrupt, not prosecutable, not not a law violation,
but that is as corrupt elitist DC politics as you get.
But Ryan, what do you read into the fact that
he couldn't handle a simple question like that, especially.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
In that an environment. Dennis on CNN, A friendly network.
It's with Caitlyn Collins, a friendly anger. It's a pretty simple, straightforward,
direct question, and he really struggled with it, right.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
And then in the end he panics and he says,
I don't understand your question. If you don't understand that question,
you should not have a driver's license. Truly, if you
don't understand that question, you should not be allowed to
operate a motor vehicle on our roadways. Now, he is
an intelligent person. He understood the question. He lied about

(34:31):
not understanding the question, and he was deceiving people by
refusing to answer it directly. Not a great start. Not
a great start, and believe me, it'd be an even
worse finish if he ended up as governor. Doctor Catherine
Wheeler used to perform abortions with us after the break
to talk about the medical reality of this
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