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July 31, 2024 34 mins
Aurora mayor Mike Coffman joins Dan to provide his perspective on a large gathering of Venezuelans, estimated at a few thousand, which got out of hand on Sunday in celebration of an anticipated election defeat for communist dictator Nicolas Maduro back in their homeland. The question is, why didn't Aurora Police do anything to stop the event once chaos ensued?
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This is Dan Caplis and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dankplis Show.
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on your favorite podcast platform. Thisis going to be even wilder than we
thought. And there's still what I'dsay, Oh, gues September October three,

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four months ago, So we're talkingabout President Trump today. I think
showing great courage and intellectual confidence goingin front of another hard left leaning group.
In this case, it happened tobe a National Black Journalist convention where
he knew he was going to begrilled. He didn't just get to give
up and get up and give aspeech. He was going to be grilled

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by a left leaning reporter, andhe was willing to go there, and
things got pretty intense. We'll playsome of that sound. The highlight headline
coming out of it is a presidentquestioning whether Kamala Harris is really black.
And again I don't think he shouldhave gone there. I think he gains
points strength points for being willing tosit down with another hard left journalist and

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do that kind of interview. Butwe'll play you some of that sound.
But Ryan, in the meantime,can we audible a little bit? Nobody
better than Ryan at this President Trumpjust took the stage in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
Jamdreena, can we go there?Wow, they saw some pretty bad
things. Thank you. He opened. I was just watching the chrono.

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He opened by taking shots at Harris'sevent yesterday. You know where they had
what was there? Somebody the Stallionand Megan thee in the Stallion two ease
job and we have, by theway, we have the dollar there.
One of the great doctors was there. They worked doing Corey. Actually Ms
Corey had a hard Timey Cory isspecial. Thank you doctor, appreciate it

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very much. Great great doctors,great doctors. A job they did on
David Dutch and James Copenhagen was justincredible. And as you know, they
brought him back from very very seriouslywounded. They were going to be maybe
not with us, it was agroup of us, but they are doing

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really well. Now they're making it. They're going to be fine. Not
going to be perfect, maybe,but who is who is as we get
older, who is perfect? Butthe doctors were so great they had two
great doctors also, and most ofall, we lift the memory or memory
to the brave firefighter who was socruelly taken from us. Corey comparator,

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Corey comparator getting out of President Trumpin Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Yeah, and
he had opened up with basically saying, Hey, we don't need entertainers to
fill up an arena. And thenhe was talking about Kamala Harris's event and
Meghan the Stallion, the Stallion,right. I gotta tell you, As

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I watched that, I was thinking, is this really going to work?
I mean, but anyway, andthen Trump was saying that her crowd started
to leave after a few minutes,et cetera. So that's how President Trump
opened it. But certainly, Ryan, it looks like wherever they are,
it looks jam packed and like anawful lot of people. Yeah, it's
Harritsburg, which brings us to something, my friend brings us to something we've

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not talked about, which is KamalaHarris's VP. Now. I know it's
kind of surreal and preposterous to betalking about any of this because she's not
the nominee. She didn't get asingle vote. She was put in place
as essentially, you know, bywhatever cabal, whatever group deposed Biden the

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duly elected nominee, but she hasbeen ordained by them, so she now
is going to be picking a VP, even though she's not the nominee.
But anyway, here's my point.We all know that the obvious lame dunk
pick is Josh Shapiro, the governorof Pennsylvania. Democrats cannot win without Pennsylvania.

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So hopefully everybody is saying a silentor even out loud prayer that she
does not pick Josh Shapiro. I'mnot saying Josh Shapiro would win her the
election. I'm just saying that it'sreally going to hurt her if she doesn't
pick him. If I'm betting thecar right now, which I'd be very
happy to do, after I tookit in a day for a routine service,

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you know, because the car barksthat you now service, do service
do? You can't play the radiounless you go get your service. And
then all of a sudden I getthis call and I need all these other
repairs. Of course, so maybeI hope I lose this bet. But
if I'm betting you my car,I bet it's Mark Kelly. I know
I agree from obviously centered from Arizona, but but boy it, well,

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we're so lucky, aren't we.Ryan that she is the DEM caller nominee,
but the den backroom pick, thatshe's the DEM backroom pick rather than
a younger candidate, and will beeven more lucky if she the cabal does
not choose Shapiro. This is whymy head is spinning. It's kind of
today's topic, and I understand whyit is dan, But these silos,

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these categories, these labels that theDemocrats dwell on. I was telling you
during the break. You know,I'm not mixed race, but I mixed
ethnicity, and so on some level, I can relate to Kamala Harris.
My dad's side is British and Dutch. My last name is Dutch. I
don't look that though I look likemy mom's side, which is Serbian.
Cool. My point is I identifywith a lot of these other things.

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But the thing my mom always said, and she was an immigrant, was
that she was an American and that'swhat she was proud of. And this
is what really pisses me off aboutall of this. Josh Shapiro should be
the running bait. But he's notgoing to be and I'm going to tell
you why, because he's Jewish.And that's stupid, but that's true because
the Democrats are hung up on thisidentity politics bs and they know that if

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they choose Shapiro, that might getthem Pennsylvania, but it might lose them
dear or in Michigan or Minneapolis,Minnesota. So they got to go with
a Casper milk toast unoffensive. They'regoing to go with a white guy because
they've got to balance the ticket totry to bring in somebody that, you
know, white males for Kamala orwhatnot. They're so hung up and focused
on all these things that divide us, Dan, and that's why I wish

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Donald Trump would take it a stepfurther in a positive direction, say it
doesn't matter what she is. She'san American and she should be proud of
that, and I'm glad that sheis an American, and just leave that
issue alone. That's for them tofigure out and deal with. I'm with
and that's why I open the show, you know, just being critical of
President Trump for going to the isshe black thing, praising him for some

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other things he did today. Butbut the Democrats have put themselves in this
horrible spot because it is fundamentally Unamerican. It's fundamentally opposed to all core American
values. It is profoundly opposed tothe teachings of Doctor King. To have
a party centered around what skin youhave, who you like to sleep with,

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what kind of sex you like tohave, you know, to have
this party based on identity, itjust violates all these basic principles of America.
And you don't listen doctor King inhis own words, I have a
dream my poor little children one daylive in a nation where they will not

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be judged by the color of theirskin, but by the content of that
character. I have a dreamy andthe Democratic Party is going entirely the opposite
way. Eight five five for zerofive eight two five five the number.
So let's just hope, though,because I think we see this identity based
party. I think we see thisparty, you know, just eroding before

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our eyes. And so let's hopethey make another mistake by not choosing Josh
Shapiro. And I say they,because do you really think it's her choice,
you know, not choosing Josh Shapiro. If they choose Josh Shapiro,
the race becomes tougher for President Trumpeight five to five for zero five eight
two five five text D A Nfive seven seven three nine. Because even
in the latest polling, which youknow is predicted, she's got this sugar

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high going. I think it'll soonstart to wear off unless some crazy things
happen between now and then. Buteven in this polling, you know that's
that's favoring her. Trump is stillup for in Pennsylvania, and so he's
in a good position there. Let'shope she does not pick Shapiro. I
want to get to some of thesetexts as well, and we have exploding

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text as you might expect. Andthen when we come back from this break
and of play some interesting sound.Do you remember, Ryan, which cut
you made? The Don Lemon soundwhere Don lemonon CNN, Don lemonon CI.
Yeah, Don lemonon CNN initiates thisd kind of sharp verbal disagreement with

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other guests over whether Kamala Harris isAfrican American and Lemon taking the position she
is not. So we'll have thatcut for you right out of the break
as well. You're on the DanKapla Show and now back to the Dan
Kapla Show podcast. Donald J.Trump and I approved this message. This

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is America's borders are and she's failedus under Harris. Over ten million illegally
here, a quarter of a millionAmericans dead from petroar, brutal migrant crimes,
lears, and isis now here.Do you have any plans to visit
the border? You haven't been tothe border, and I haven't been to
Europe. Understand the point that you'remaking. Kamala Harris failed, weak,

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dangerously liberal. That's what I'm talkingabout. Just do that. Take yes
for an answer. Take yes foran answer. Take the W. It's
right there, it's city, rightthere, it's right in front of you.

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Just grab it, caress it,snuggle it. Take the damn W.
Don't be talking about whether she's black. Talk about the fact she's a
San Francisco radical. You've got itall on tape. In her own words.
She wants to use taxpayer dollars toguarantee every prisoner in America sex change

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operations. It's such a target richenvironment. Just ninety days of discipline and
Trump wins bigly. But it's goingto be wild. I mean, take
today, today is what we're goingto get for the next three months.
Trump was brilliant in so many differentways today brilliant. But then you get

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this other thing where he's questioning whethershe's black. Now, first of all,
she is. Second, even ifshe wasn't, why go there.
You win this thing just by sayinga jillion times over and over san Francisco
radical, because people know it's true. It. We're so lucky she's the
DEM nominee. It could they haveso many other stronger nominees who could have

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pulled the con. She can't pullthe con. Americans know who she is.
She's been VP for three and ahalf years, so there are so
many different ways to win it.But hey, we all know President Trump
has been president of the United States. I haven't. And he has his
own way of doing things, andoften he does things that doesn't look like

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they should work, and they work. All I'm saying on this one is
whether it works or not. Politically, it's wrong she is black. Don't
be questioning whether she's black, youahjust be just be talking about how radical
she is San Francisco radical, anduse the specific. Let me give you
one. And we're doing a bunchevery day but how about this one.

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There can't be what one percent ofAmerica who would support this using taxpayer dollars
for this. When I was AttorneyGeneral, I learned that the California Department
of Corrections, which was a clientof mine I didn't get to choose my
clients, a client of the AttorneyGeneral, a client of the Attorney General
of the Office of Attorney General,that they were standing in the way of

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surgery for prisoners. And there wasa specific case. And when I learned
about the case, I worked behindthe scenes to not only make sure that
that transgender woman got the services shewas deserving. So it wasn't only about
that case. I made sure thatthey changed the policy in the state of
California so that every transgender inmate inthe prison system would have access to the

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medical care that they desired and need. And I believe it was not only
I know it was historic in California, but I believe actually it may have
been one of the first, ifnot the first, in the country.
Yeah, for good reason. It'sinsane. It's insane. Just play that
over and over and over again tillelection day. Let's go back to the
phone lines. We'll go to BeautifulColorado Springs and I'm going to play that

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Don Lemon's sound for you, whereDon Lemon jumped into this issue, much
to the chagrin of a Harris supporter, Becky in Beautiful Sea Springs. You're
on the Dan Kapla, She'll welcome, Hi, Dan. I think there's
someone really clever, maybe Ryan,who could come up with the answered.
I like when Reagan was debating Mandeland he said, I won't hold my

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opponent's youth and inexperience against him.Yes, and I think Trump could come
up with something. I won't holdsomebody's raise, their ethnicity for them or
against them, but look at theirpolicies and just and I would invite my
opponent to also stay all both genderand race if they can, and just

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some clever savement like that and nevertalk about it again unless he says that.
Yeah, Becky, appreciate the call, thank you for that. Yeah.
It just shouldn't be part of thiscampaign. I mean, the questioning
whether she's really black just shouldn't bepart of this Dennis and Morse. And
now at the same time, Trump, you know, listen, He's going
to win for a lot of reasonsunless he blows it gives it away,

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and I don't believe he will,but he's going to win simply on strength
versus weakness and today being willing toappear and be questioned by this left leaning
journalist, hard left leaning journalist.I believe in public stuff like that plays
to the strength image. Certain responsesof his play to that. But the

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other stuff, you gotta let itgo. Dennis and Morris, and welcome
to the show. Hey, Dan, I'm going to go a little off
topic. I just want to commenton these fires. Yeah, I'm saying
to my beautiful mountain top patio lookingat the quarry fire as blames just hit
the ridge across from us. We'reon pre pre evacuation notice here. Yeah,
why are you still there? Well, it's it's a little bit of

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a ways. If it creeps downthat mountain, it could go across uh
Deer Creek into the canyons there,and then it'll go all the way up
to Connacher. Here's my concern foryou, Dennis, because you know,
I've represented people in this situation whereall of a sudden that the fire just
sped up in a hurry, andthen you've got people burned to death.
And so is it worth hanging aroundand waiting. Probably not. So we've

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got stuff parked backed up in thecar, and yeah, get out of
there. Call me from the road. We take calls from the road as
long as people are safe, right. But yeah, you know, all
they're talking about is limited resources,limited resources, limited resources. And finally,
our stupid governor came on today andsaid we should probably put more money

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into aviation resources to fight fires.You know, he goes around, he's
so concerned with letting wolves go inthe wild. Yeah, he's so concerned
about protecting the butterfly population, andhe just drops the ball on stuff like
this. We should have the bestequipment available to where are of feet on

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the ground those people. I mean, I'm watching these planes come in and
drop and oh my god, it'swell this. We know if one of
those wolves that he had released here, that he pushed having released here,
if one of those wolves was inthis area, I bet you would have
got help sooner. Yeah, Iwould have been put out a long time

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ago. So anyway, be careful, man, I've got to hit a
hard break, but truly be careful, because you know how that works.
I mean, so many people diewhen the fire just speeds up or shifts
directions. Well, thank you DanHey, thank you Dennis for the call.
Be safe, my friend, andwow, and prayers for everybody affected
by it right now on so manydifferent levels. But eight five five four

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zero five eight two five five thenumber. Let me get you that lemon
sound right after the break, sowe don't chop it up and this.
Oh and Mike Kaufman, yeah,he'll be with us at five thirty six.
That's wonderful, the mayor of Aurora. And remember what happens Sunday night
is three to four thousand people gatheringin connection with the Venezuelan election results and

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essentially taking over this parking lot ofa shopping center, and then people are
having a real hard time getting inand out, and then guns being fired
into the air and all sorts ofother issues. In wait a second,
I don't care what the group is. We just can't have this. We
can't have this be the new normal. And Mike Kaufman, who has been
a tremendous law and order guy andhas walked that talk for a lot of
years, I'm sure he is notgoing to permit that as well. So

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we'll talk to him at five thirtysix and find out for my kaffin what
really happened out there, and thenwhat's he going to do to make sure
it doesn't happen again. You're onthe Dan Capla Show. You're listening to

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the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. Let'sgo to the phone lines talk to Mike
Kaufman, the great Mayor of Aurora, Colorado, talking about this bizarre and
I think kind of scary occurrence thatoccurred Sunday night in Aurora. Mister mayor,
Welcome back to the Dan Capla Show. Hey, Dan, thanks for
having me. Well, really appreciateyou being here. Obviously, you know

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what the questions are going to,because I'm sure a lot of citizens have
been calling in with them. Butfirst of all, what happened on Sunday
night at that shopping mall? Andsecond, what can be done to make
sure that sort of thing doesn't happenagain. What happened was it was a
historic event. Were not just forthe city of Aurora. Unfortunately, it

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was unfortunate for the city, butwe've had the country's had and Aurora's had
these ways of migrants crushing in theborder and a lot of them are from
Venezuela and so and probably the majorityare from Venezuela. So there was an
elections were being held in Venezuela.They somebody on social media, one of

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the number of ve Isuelan immigrant communityput out a post saying, you know,
let's meet up over at this parkinglot in the vicinity of Mississippi and
Hava, and it tried out fourthousand people, about four thousand people and
so with no planning, and sothey just know, kind of took over

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the area. People couldn't uh couldn'tget get it that were in the stores
couldn't get out, uh because they'repart where their cars were. There was
no you know, people couldn't goin the stores. Uh, there were
a celebratory gunfire, a lot ofdrinking going on. Pretty much trast the

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area. So very disappointing. Uhand uh but you know, certainly,
uh I felt that they are thepeople in the city will run apology.
And the leader from the Venezuelan communityimmigrant community, it's contacting me and said
they more than that the leaders thatthey thought to be criminally prosecuted. Uh.

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So we're certainly looking at the socialmedia post out there trying to track
things down in the future of well, I think this is more of a
one off. But in the future, certainly we'll monitor their social media to
see, you know, if there'sever a meet up again like this.
But I don't think. I thinkit was just because of this historic event
that had occurred, but it wasreally unfortunate and hurt the city may or

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Mike Kaufman our guest. And whenyou say, mister Merrit, the one
off, I think that is theprofound concern of so many people listening is
wait a second, it needs tobe a one off, right, because
this can't be the new normal.And I don't care if it's four thousand
country clubbers or four thousand people fromIreland or whatever. And I happened to

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be one hundred percent Irish. Thisjust can't be the new normal. Even
if it's the normal in some othercountry, it can't be the normal in
America. No I did. Itreally can't be. And so, you
know, so I think that thatthere leaders within their community. There was
an editorial in Spanish language all commercialpaper by Jezu Sanchez, a leader in

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the Venezuelan immigrant community. Somebody whohad been here for a long time,
not not a new uh. Nowone of the ways of migrants that have
come over here that that that putout a pretty harsh editorial, uh,
you know against those that did that, what really is irresponsible in terms of
planning. I get that they wereexuberant. I get that they were excited.

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Uh. You know, they've they'veleft the country because of the dictatorial
leadership there and they were hoping fora change uh in governance. Uh.
And that has yet to be resolved, but certainly there's no excuse for it.
And but it did. It caughtus ouf guarb. Yeah, and

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let me ask you about that,mister Merrick, because listen, I know
you, and I know how you'veserved this country and you're a law and
order guy. Way beyond talking lawand order, you've risked your life for
it. But at this point youwon't find a bigger pro cop guy than
me. My dad was a copfor thirty years. But but how how
was the intelligence missed on this?And and what's being done, if anything,

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to make sure this can never happenagain? And why when they started
to form And I know it's reallytough for individual law enforcement officers with a
huge crowd like that. But wasany thought given to having law enforcement enforced
the law in that situation. No, it was tough. I mean,
we are we're understaffed as a policedepartment. We are, you know,

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we're working hard to staff up,but we we you know those Douge Floyd
and the after Matthew George Floyd andyou know, we lost a lot of
officers and so we're trying to rebuildthe department and so. But but it
was it was a crush of peoplethat unexpectedly descended at one time. You

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know, do we certainly where wehave experiences is in the street racing when
they do meetups that we do wanta toor uh a social media their social
media to see if and when they'recoming as a group. So we have
experienced, but absolutely caught off guardin this situation that I mean that these

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posts would go viral one person startedit, that they would go viral to
where you had a crush of fourthousand people descending in one area that couldn't
accommodate them in a fairly short periodof time. And mister Marrin, in
terms of deterring it in the future, you alluded earlier to the credit of
apparently somebody from the Venezuelan community sayingthere should be criminal charges. Is there

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videotape available where people who committed crimes, including firing guns into the air,
you know, could be identified andprosecuted. There's an investigation going on,
so they're going to try to,you know, identify people that are responsible
for it. But I'll tell youthis, in the context of the challenges

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that we have as a city,my worry was not that was more about
the Venezuelan immigrants that weren't there thanthe visits Venezuelan immigrants that were there there.
There's concern about Venezuelan gangs in theDenver metro area or being no exception

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to that. And they certainly don'tcare about the politics in Venezuela in whether
or not the government's going to change. They're here to do harm and so
Venezuela, you know, this isa problem with to Biden administration. Venezuela
is a country that doesn't share itscriminal records with the United States when it

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comes to immigration, and so whatwe have is we have a lot of
people that have crossed the board illegally, been arrested, then have asked for
asylum, political asylum. They knowthe process. They're given what's called a
humanitarian parole in the country pending anadjudication of their asylum clan. And so,

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I mean that's what we're up against. Yeah, without any idea of
their criminal histories, et cetera.And I appreciate the point. This is
Biden and Harris and that whole administrationand Polis and the whole bunch of them
support this sort of thing. Butwhen you're stuck in this situation, mister
mayor, with this, with thisvery tough hand to deal with, you

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know, at the end of theday, is you know better than I
do the law still has to beenforced or is it a situation whereimply the
numbers involved that that people are goingto be able to continue to do this.
No, and again, is thisthe one off? Absolutely? This
is the one off. Well,this wasn't a story. I disagree with
you on this because I think itwas. This was in a story moment

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of where they met up in anticipationof an election result that that occurs.
I don't know how will Alpha mayhave elections of the president, but not
very often. And so, andI think that that the message will be
out there not to do this,and it will be better prepared next time.

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In the context of some of thechallenges that we're up against, this
isn't certainly the biggest one, butit's important I get that, and that
we'll certainly be prepared for this nexttime better than we are today. It's
pretty hard when when people descend ona given area, on a fairly small
area in a very quick period oftime. Right, And You've been generous

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with your time. But I knowyou know this better than I do that
all of us, just as individualsand collectively as a community, we can
done and encourage what we tolerate.So in this situation, if they are
not criminal charge is brought, itisn't the message that's sent to people that
Okay, you can do this again. Yeah, I certainly hope that there

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are that the investigation will yield thatinformation where we can prosecute people. And
you know, and so this isthis is a challenging time, and this
is one of the challenges that wehave and you know, I'm not gonna

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you know, obviously there's priorities,yeah, meaning in terms of resources,
in terms of resources, and interms of no different than than when we
deploy our patrol officers. And thedifference treating and what is a priority one
call and what is a lesser called. Well, wouldn't this be a highest

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priority call because you've got this groupthat that's formed illegally, it's shutting down
commerce, you have guns being firedinto the air. Wouldn't this be the
highest prior? No? What wouldbe higher? Absolutely not? We you
know, if you know Aurora,the what you know is we have areas
in our city, unfortunately that havebeen overtaken and that we have to take

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back street by street, block byblock that where we have violent criminals,
not people coming together for a partyas bad as it was, but where
we have violent criminals, that wouldnot be a priority one call. Priority
one call is shots fired but atsomebody else, not still a Detroit fire,

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gots fired, injuries, you know, due to violent crimes and a
crime in progress, and so Imean a violent crime in progress. Those
are that's a priority one call.And so this was important. I get
the frustration. It is not somethingThis is not like dealing with street racing,

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where it occurs on a regular basis, and you know, we get
onto we learn their social media patterns, we get on top of it,
we'll certainly learn from this. Butfor people that think that this is going
to be every week, it's not. Well, Listen, I know you
have enormous challenges not of your making, and I know your commitment to law

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and order in public safety. Andone thing I'd love to do is I'd
love to get you in here foran hour just based on what you said
a second ago about you've got areasyou've got to fight for and take back
block by block. I mean that, and I know you you don't exaggerate,
so that's an extraordinarily alarming statement.But I'd love to get you in
studio for an hour and and justtalk that through and talk about what the

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reality is on the ground there andwhat the fixes are. Well, do
it? Okay, Thank you,my friend, appreciate the times. Take
care. That is, Mayor MikeKaufman, good to spend time with us.
Come back at your reaction. You'reon the Dan Caplo Show, and
now back to the Dan Kamplas Show, Podcast number one. She is a
black woman. She's a mixed racewoman. When you see her, you

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see her blackness, but she isalso South Asian. Her mom is South
Asian and her dad is Jamaica.Let me, let me, let me
listen. More power to her.And I think it's great that is that
should be enough. Listen, itis enough that she's a black woman.
Models. No, no, no, they did the same. No,
no, no no. I thinkI think you're not You're not hearing what

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people are saying. The people whoare saying is she black enough? That's
bold, that's bs. But toto to what the distinction to say is
she African American or is she black? Or she whatever? That which there
is nothing wrong with that. Thereis a difference between being African American and
being black people, lack people,Latino people are people of color, but

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they're not black, they're brown people. She is, okay, but she
is a black woman. Okay.That's why I agree with that. I
agree with that, but American.And the reason I played that if you
just joined us, thank you?Is this big issue today President Trump questioned
you whether Kamala Harris is black.I don't think he should have done that.

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I think she is. And regardless, you just don't go there.
He has so many different ways towin his own accomplishments. Her crazy radicalism.
But yet we've just been playing thatkind of related sound all day.
Let's go to our JAM phone line. Start with Greg and Aurora, Colorado.
You're on the Dan Kaplis, She'llwelcome. Yeah, nice to talk
with you, Dan. And Icalled in a couple of days ago explaining

(32:37):
that my wife and I were travelingnorth on Havana just all out right about
the time all of this started.And I just listened to your interview with
Mayor Kauflin. I actually mentioned tothe host the other day that we had
to get him on the phone andfind out exactly what was going on.

(32:59):
So I appreciate your time on that. I think he deflected, and I've
had previous experience with him as I'ma precinct leader here in a Republican precinct
leader here in Aurora, and uh, he's uh, he's I don't think
he handles things very clearly. Anduh, I don't understand the kind of

(33:25):
deflection on if this was not thehighest priority what it was there it was,
if not at the moment we werethere, it's turning into a dangerous
situation, especially on the road.People were there, they were brought blocking
the intersections and who knows what couldhave happened. There could have been accidents.

(33:46):
Fortunately there wasn't. But you know, I think that uh uh Mayor
Kaufman after left the when I whenI actually spoke to him personally there in
the Republican headquarters in the Rapallo County. He was This is shortly after his

(34:07):
revelation in the Denver Post that hewas not supporting the Trump and I asked
him who he was voting for.I said, are you going to vote
for Hillary? And he didn't sayanything, and my apologies, my friend.
The music means I have to bailbecause we're going to get hit a
heart break here in a few seconds. Thank you everybody else jamming the lines.
We'll continue this conversation tomorrow. Youcan be sure of that. We'll

(34:29):
have a report from the courtroom fromJimmy Sandeberger on the Teenyer Peters trial which
has begun. Ran tremendous job isalways. Thank you, Kelly, You're
the best. Join us tomorrow pleaseon the Dan Kapla Show.
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