September 16, 2025 • 34 mins
A texter tries to equivocate hateful, evil rhetoric from the Left celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination with President Trump. Heidi and Ryan quickly put said listener in their place by revisting Trump's gracious remarks upon learning of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's passing in 2020.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello everyone, it's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Capless,
bantering with my friend Ryan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
We are fired up today about.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How ridiculous, ridiculous some of the comments that the left
is making are. And I just you know, at some point, Ryan,
when do people wake up that vote that way and
say this is not okay?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Now?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did see Jamie Lee Curtis. Did you see that clip?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, she had a meltdown the day after Charlie died
and was crying and basically.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Saying, this is not okay.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't agree with anything he says politically, but it's
not okay.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Fine, That's exactly how the reaction should be from a
normal person with a heart, a soul, and a conscience.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Right, But apparently there's not a lot of those out there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know how I was saying, I had a weird
feeling about the text exchanges that were put out today.
So one of my friends on Twitter actually put it
through chat GTP and GPT.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I can't talk.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
To work earlier and chat GPT, and when asked if
it seemed real and genuine, the text exchange said it's
most likely fabricated, far too detailed and too incriminating to
be real. Chat GPT agrees with me. There's something off,
there's something weird. Why would he go to all.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
This trouble to text all of this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And then the guy does say he remembers etching.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
The bullets, Like so the kid knew, the other kid knew,
the furry knew. But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think there's more to the story here, and I
believe me. I'm not going down the Candice Someone's route
right now about Israel. But I just feel like it's
weird that they're exposing so many things about this case,
and Brockler keeps commenting on that, like why are they
doing this? They're putting the case at risk by putting
all this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Information out there.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
That's what I was thinking. I'm glad that Brackler agrees
with me on that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I was wondering that it just doesn't seem right.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I want to talk for a minute about school safety, yesterday,
I had a researcher from Cuboulder on and I don't
think we got the answers we were looking for in
that segment. My mom said, that was ridiculous. You know,
I just I want answers. I want to know exactly
what we're supposed to do to protect our kids. So
I went back through my research and kind of the
gist of what the proposal I keep putting forward says.
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And I wanted to give you guys some perspective. But
why don't you start if you can tee it up
with that clip my buddy Kyle zero zero about the
Evergreen High School shooting, And if you need a minute,
I can start going down the list, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Jefson kind of Sheriff's office is their officers were on
the scene within two minutes of the first calls for help.
That response did not include the school's resource officer. Today,
we learned that the SRO usually assigned Evergreen High as
currently on medical leave. The night before the shooting, there
was a PTA meeting where parents express concern about the
lack of a full time SRO. Our Mark Salinger joins
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us after speaking with the parent who.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Led that meeting, Mark, Yeah, Kylie, it's crucial to note
that we don't know if having an SRO here at
Evergreen High School could have prevented what happened here on Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
But today, like you mentioned, we found.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Out that SROs are shared amongst schools here in Jefferson
County and here in areas like Evergreen and at Evergreen
High School. The night before this shooting, there was a
meeting here discussing just that topic.
Speaker 9 (03:36):
I woke up this morning and was like, when I
was opening my eyes, please let this just happen at Nightmare.
Speaker 10 (03:41):
As Cindy Majaka comes to terms with what happened at
her daughter's school this week, she thinks back to the
Parent Teacher Student Association meeting on Tuesday night.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
A mom sitting next to me said, directly to doctor artists,
why does Evergreen High School not have an SRO. Another
parent asked, what if there's a shooting?
Speaker 10 (04:00):
India is the PTSA president at Evergreen High School. The
meeting minutes published on the ptsa's website show the school
principle responded to the parents' questions about soros. Principal Artists
said the Mountain schools have been deprioritized and resources are shared.
She said, we were deprioritized because we were a small
mountain town with less crime than the schools down the
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hill with SROs.
Speaker 9 (04:23):
I don't think a lot of parents know about this.
Even as a PTA president, I didn't know about this.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
We reached out to Jeffco Public Schools asking about the
SRO policy for Mountain schools, but did not hear Back
On Thursday, the Sheriff's office provided some clarity.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
Evergreen High School used to have a full time SORO.
That SRO is on medical leave right now, so it's
a shared duty.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The Sheriff's office says.
Speaker 10 (04:47):
The SRO stationed at the school earlier that morning rotates
between other schools. A couple hours before the shooting, they
were dispatched to help with the car crash nearby.
Speaker 11 (04:57):
The SRO that was sharing responsibility of Evergreen High School
is allowed to come and go. You can go to lunch.
He might have to handle something in the parking lot,
and he might be covering something that's happening in the neighborhood.
Speaker 10 (05:08):
Sure Off deputies and first responders say they arrived at
the school within two minutes of the first nine to
one to one calls and located the shooter within five
minutes of the dispatch. We have no idea of having
a school resource officer at the school on Wednesday would
have prevented what happened.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
The people that at a meeting were texting me, we
just talked about this last night. We just did, and
it was eerie and almost as if did we jinx.
Speaker 10 (05:34):
This a meeting where the worst case scenario was brought
up the night before it became a reality.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
We still will ask to protect our students. It doesn't
matter if you live down the hill or up here.
Everybody needs to be protected. All of our kids need
to be protected.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
According to those meeting minutes from the PTSA website, it
shows that the principal here at Evergreen High School recommended
that the PTA members go to the Jeff Go Board
of Education and advocate for a full time SRO At
the next Board.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Of Education meeting.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
The PTSA president Cindy there tells me that they still
plan to do that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Kyle and Market, as you alluded to right off the top,
I mean we should just come around and say that.
In Colorado said history of school shootings, we have seen
instances where SROs were crucial in stopping shooters. We have
seen other instances in which it honestly did not matter
at all because it happens so quickly, or it happens
at another part of a large campus.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
But it all does fall into.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
How families feel safe around schools.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Mark Salinger, thank you so much. Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, okay, number one, having a school resource officer on campus,
an armed school resource officer, of course, that's going to help.
It's actually going to help the kids feel safer too,
which is one of the statistics I was going to
bring up. And why are we spending ninety thousand dollars
or whatever the number two hundred and six thousand dollars
for Durango on DEI initiatives when we don't have full
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time school resource officers in the schools. That just blows
me away. And we've been saying this for years. We
also have incredible technology available now AI technology. The consense
of a gun is approaching the school or anywhere near
the school.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
This is not expensive stuff. This is solution oriented things
that we can do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You can hold a bake sale the PTA and raise
money to put this stuff into play. There's really cool
walkie talkies now that connect directly to law enforcement, not
just to each other. And that's an important way to
address this stuff. The other thing that blows me away
about how we protect our schools is we accept, we
expect the little secretary, the sixty five year old, lovely
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little lady at the front desk to make the decision
about who to let in this school or not based
on a bad video at the front door. And most
of our doors are not monitored. Well, that's a whole
nother thing. The other thing that drives me crazy is
we've worked so hard to keep the school like locked
in inside safe, but then we send our kids out
on the playground with no security and with the drone
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technology and the.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Bad guys are smart, why would.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We send our kids all out on the playground to
be sitting ducks without any kind of safety measures. Finally,
they talk about concentric protection when they talk about school safety.
So you not only have to keep the school safe,
but you have to look at the next circle out,
which is around the school, the neighborhood around the school,
so the school bus route, the route the kids walk,
and we should have police protection there.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We should have neighborhood walk programs.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
There's a really cool program where dads train how to
protect kids and be at the schools and alert if
there's a problem. There's bomb sniffing dogs, there's dogs that
can sniff out drugs. There's I mean, I think the
kids would love to have a Golden Retriever on campus
that can do double duty. So it's just it's solvable.
It's solvable. Ryan, and I just don't understand why we
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continue to see these incidents and nobody takes it seriously.
And I'm talking to both sides, the legislature, the leadership here,
the school administrators, Casby who seems to have plenty of time,
the Colorado Association of School Boards to create DEI programs,
but they can't protect our kids. And we did just
get a text that says from a listener. State Patrol
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investigates traffic accidents and unincorporated Jeffco, the part time srls
should have stayed at the.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
School recalled the sheriff.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Another one says the Jeffco sheriff is short staff due
to the Democrat County commissioners defunding the sheriff's office, because
I mean that has been happening around the state. The
Left likes to defund the police and there's consequences to that.
So Ryan, that's my rant to match your previous rant.
Go well, we're ranting after the break. This is hiding
and all filling in for Dan Capless.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Hello everyone, exhiding all back, filling in for Dan Caplis
today and talking back and forth with Ryan about the
crazy that's coming out on the left. And I got
another example of our favorite editor up in yellow at
the Yellow Scene magazine in Boulder.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's actually based out of Eerie.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Her name's Chavon Blades and she's the editor and owner
of Yellow Scene Magazine. And she posted a picture of
a flag I sent it to you, Ryan. That is
the police flag with the blue and it's peeling back
the blue stripe and it has.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
A Nazi symbol underneath it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So she thinks the police are Nazis too, Just so
you know, police officers up north. If she calls you
for your help, she says, Erie magas are threatening our
advertisers with boycotts again, Pride, Juneteenth, COVID housing, whatever they're
mad about. They've done it before like five times, always
the same people. Now it's Charlie Kirk words they apparently endorse.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What Yeah, that's what she says.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
From the uh.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
She's comparing these maybe philosophical or political objections to pride,
which I've had that conversation by the way, with my
good friends with the log Cabin Republicans that they feel
it's kind of infantalizing, yeah, and condescending and patronizing.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
So there's that. There's studentine. How they're going to compare
that to.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
The assassination of a political figure on our side. Hold
up for a minute, if a political figure again with
the caveat God forbid, don't want it. But if this
were to happen to somebody she liked, supported, exalted, thought
was a hero for their movement their side, would she
be responding? Well, if our side was pooh pooing it
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and like, oh now it's just this other person I
got murdered cold blood, broad daylight in public. The other
part is what does this thing called yellow scene like
sc any.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, it's Yellow Sea magazine.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's been around four years, so I used to write
hip pieces on me.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
All the time. Well you should take that as a compliment,
I am.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Well, just because you're called yellow scene doesn't mean you
have to do yellow journalism, and that's what all of
this represents. It's obviously ideologically driven, but not in an
honest way. This this logo, I mean, just says it
speaks volumes. But this should make people on the left cringe.
That's how That's how far askew this is.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I'll tweet it out later or Ryan you can.
I sent you the screenshot.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But this is nuts, Like, this is crazy that this
gal is writing this stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And if we were.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
A sane state, if we were not insane, then we
would figure it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Out, right. So I just got a text on the
text line.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
A great quote I saw was truth sounds like hate
to those who hate truth.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Alexa, thank you. That's pretty spot on.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, I saw that. That's a good one, Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Going deeper down the rabbit hole about the text exchanges,
Matt Walsh says, I'm leaning very strongly towards the theory
that this text exchange with the killer and his lover
was scripted as a way to have solve the boyfriend.
It's almost exactly what Walter White did at the end
of Breaking Bad. Yeah, this feels like a strategy they
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cooked up from watching too much TV.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, they're very especially the alleged and we saw him
do it assassin very online like way online, the references,
the inscriptions on the ammunition, the nomenclature, the gaming.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
World that he lives in. This is what happens.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
When you narrow your entire world, your universe, within this
very narrow echo chamber. This is what I fear about.
You know, people used to be concerned about Heidi. Not
so much when we were younger, but maybe the kids
that just followed us, let's say, in the nineties with
too much online gaming, you know, the first person shooter
type games, and when it started going online you could
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play with other people and other locations. It just turned
into its own kind of world and it starts to
blur the lines between reality and fantasy. And perhaps that
might be one of the root causes here. I don't know, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I just feel like there's something weird about it. But
this is another piece of information. Representative Anna Polina put
out Armed Queer's SLC is now under FBI investigation as
an extended network related to Charlie's Killer. The founder of
Armed Queer's SLC I assume that Salt Lake City is
also an organizer for PSL, which is funded by Nevill
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Singham and the Chinese Communist Party. Why did Armed Queer's
Salt Lake City delete their Instagram after Charlie was murdered?
Why is Nevill Singham affiliated with radical extremist groups that
may have ties to Charlie Kirk's assassin. This is crazy stuff,
and that's a congresswoman tweeting that.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, and we've heard I understand George brockwa twenty third
Day's concerns about putting too much of the case out there,
but I think where I might have some daylight with
George on that is, this is such an important case
nationally for people to be assured that the investigation is
is going in the right direction, that they have the killer,
and they have evidence that some of that being entered
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into the public sphere to a degree, I can understand.
But when you're pursuing this from the angle that we're
talking about, and Dan Bongino comes on, as a matter
of fact, did you see this now? So he, of
course is the deputy director of the FBI, and he
is privy to a lot of information that might be
on the inside. He is hinting at what Anna Paulina
Luna just did right there, these networks, these nefarious terrorist
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sympathizing domestic terrorist organization networks. President Trump is hinted at
the fact that he might want pambody and I don't
think he should put it off on her. One, I
don't trust her that much, but two, he needs to
take that step forward. Yeah, Antifa is a domestic terrorist
organization and we are going to label them as such.
And any groups that had any affiliation, coordination, knowledge of malice,
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aforethought to this incident that was connected in any way,
they need to be held accountable. Because if you don't, Heidi,
then you're just leaving the door open to this happening
again and again.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We need to arrest people. Arrest people, please. I wanted
to give you heads up that this is concerning to
me as a mom. Before we go to break, I'm
gonna read this picture that I just got of the
memorial We're going to in Sunday in Arizona. Donald Trump's
going to be there, Jade Vance is going to be there,
Erica Kirk is going to be there. Marco Rubio, RFK
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Junior Pete Hegseath, Tulci Gabbard, Don Junior, Tucker Carlson, Stephen Miller,
Sergio Gore, and Suzanne Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Aren't we worried.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
About putting all those people in the same building. I'm sorry,
and I'm going to be in that building, But how
on earth are they going to protect all those folks
in one place?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It kind of sparked another thought in my mind, Heidi.
When you compare a lot of the similarities included the
elevated platform from which the shooters took aim. Whether it
was Butler, Pennsylvania or Utah Valley University. I just don't
think you can have events like this outdoors anymore. That's
just my feeling. You can have the events, but they've
got to be indoors. We have controlled access points, you
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have screening for weapons, metal detectors, all that. You just
look back on what happened with Charlie and there's just
so many moving parts and variables in the equation that
you can't control.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And that led to his demise.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I mean, I just God bless him for being
so trusting and not naive because he knew. But I've
heard there were only six police officers there and two
of them were pulled off to deal with something else.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Did you hear that, Ryan, Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I had.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, that's frightening and hopefully that changes, and I hope
that it changes for this Thursday too, when we're up
at CSU. Let's see Dan or the left brings up
the Minnesota state reps that were shot by the mega guy.
It wasn't a mega guy. We already talked about that.
All right, This is Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis.
We'll see after the break and we'll bring on my
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friend Tanner from turning Point.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Tidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Head into the last half hour of our constant ranting Ryan,
we're in ranting modes today.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I got a lot of problems with you people, and
you're going to hear about them. Fest of Us.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Oh Lordie, let's go ahead and take a call from
Selena and Eerie.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
She has a comment about our.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Favorite magazine, Yellow Scene.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Selena, welcome to the show.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
Hi, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Tell us more about Yellow Scene.
Speaker 12 (18:45):
Well, I don't know if you actually heard what Sean
had posted on plue Sky and the reason for the uproar, Well, we.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Did earlier talk about a post where she said, imagine
that half asked for a Nazi the day that Charlie
was assassinated.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
That's right that and that's really the uproar. We completely
believe in free speech, which hopefully she does as well,
but when you lie and incite violence from those lives,
that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, it's not okay. And like I mean, it's pretty
clear cut. I think when you're being violent or inciting violence,
I just it just ticks me off that like a
leader of a magazine, a pretty big magazine in the
North Metro area can get away with this. And I mean,
are people calling her out Selena, Yes, So there's.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
A petition going on and there's some posts just letting
people know, hey, this is what she wrote. You make
your decision. You want to support her advertise. If you don't,
then don't, but you deserve to understand what she sang.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I think I think if you're going to run
a business and you should be held accountable for your
words and let the free market do its thing. And
hopefully people are not happy with what she said. So Selena,
thank you so much for calling in. I appreciate it.
I you know, Ryan, I don't know how you feel
about this. Whole argument is hate speech like free speech.
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And everybody's mad at Pam Bondi today and she clarified
what she meant. I mean, she's had a couple of
snamfoos like that, so I think she needs to be careful.
But these these words are inciting violence.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, that's a difference. It's a difference you don't have
the right to.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Basically, what we're talking about is green lighting this type
of violence, and it's showing in the polls that we
talked about earlier that liberals view it as justified. If
you truly view, like literally speaking, that Charlie Kirk was
a Nazi, that Donald Trump is Hitler. You know, you
have that question if you go back in time and
murder baby Hitler in the crib, would you do it?
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And then you would be like, well, yeah, of course
I would. Well that's the same thing here. You apply
that thought process, that thought exercise, and if you truly
believe that your political opposition is existential evil, existential threats
to democracy, you've heard that before, then it's going to
green light maniacs and maybe people that aren't even that
far askew in terms of being maniacs. And you know what,
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b N justifies the means by any means necessary.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I've got to take this person out. I've got to
silence them.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
I've got to make sure that they don't turn this
country into a fascistic regime, which is what we're being told.
There's constant evidence of that, Heidi, of them demonizing our
side of the aisle with these extremist terms that people
are buying because they keep hearing it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's right, that's right, And I'm sorry, but I just
think everybody could just take a little bit of a
lesson from Charlie like he came at it like from
a place of law, and even though he disagreed with people,
he listened to them. He wanted conversation, he wanted to
try and understand them, and yeah, he'd go back and
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forth and articulate how he felt about certain issues. But
I mean, I wonder what he would say right now
about everything that's going on and how we should what
we should call out, how we should call it out,
what we should talk about. In a few minutes, we're
going to talk to Tanner, and Tanner heads up the
University of Colorado Turning Point Shoulder. It's the Boulder. So
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that's going to come in the next segment. But I
wanted to update everybody on a stat that Turning Point
just tweeted out they have received fifty four thousand requests
from students to open chapters, participate in chapters, or help chapters.
Like that's insane, that is so amazing, and that is
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making Charlie smile up in the heavens like that, and
the number of people that were at church last Sunday,
that makes Charlie very happy.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I you know, I've been a part of Turning Point
for a long time and the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That stayed consistent with it, the students.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're hardcore, like they're warriors, they're they're unflappable. But we
want to bring more kids into the mix, and we
want to give more students opportunities.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
To get involved and engaged.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So if you know a child or a grandchild that
is interested in free speech and lower and lower size
of government, and you know, fighting communism, then find out
if the local high school has a chapter.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Find out if.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Their high school has a chapter, ask go on the
website and volunteer under I think it says get involved
at the top of the Turning Point website TPUSA dot
com and offer to mentor a student or help them
get a chapter going, either on college campus or a
high school campus. Also, if you're past high school and college,
we've got Colorado Young Republicans. There are fourteen chapters across
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the state now for young professionals who want to get
involved and engaged that are past college. And then finally
on the college campuses, there's also American Conservation Coalition ACC,
which are conservative leaning students who care about the environment
and want to talk about clean land, clean air, clean
water from a free market perspective. There's new which is
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for young women on college campuses, and I can't remember
what the acronym is Network of Enlightened Women. I believe
they have a chapter it's U Boulder in the other campuses.
So there's lots and lots of ways to get engaged,
and I just think it's time to give our young
people a boost and say, hey, we're here to have
your back, we're here to help, and this is the
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way forward. And honestly, there are more young people like
pre registering to vote in Colorado Republican than there are
Democrats right now. My sixteen year old scot or driver's license,
and of course they asked her, would you like to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Register to vote?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And I just cringe and I'm like, you're sixteen. And
then they asked which party would you like to affiliate
with or would you like to be unaffiliated? And of
course my daughter says, I'm a proud Republican.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I want to register as a Republican.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And the number of kids who are doing that across
the state is skyrocketing.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So let's take a.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Little bit of a glimmer of hope from that. Let's
also get our young people things to read, good documents
to read, good websites to follow, or podcasts to follow.
Of course, they can look at old Charlie videos, they
can watch Peger you. There's tons of great speakers out
(25:44):
there that they can watch online. So that's another way
you can help your young people. I'm very passionate about
this because for six years at the University of Colorado,
I saw how bullied the conservative students were and the
faculty actually, but the students were mean that the liberal
students were just plaining mean and it really ticked me off.
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So I have a tender place in my heart for
those students who survived that time period. Hopefully things are
changing by the number of students who are showing up
to these turning point events and signing up to be involved.
I think this is a special moment in history and
things are going to change dramatically.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I sure hope they do.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And I know Charlie's going to smile down every time
there's another student who's brave enough and bold enough to
speak out, to go to church when they haven't been,
going to proclaim their faith, or to protect free speech,
or speak up for free speech, or to fight against communism.
Those are the things he's really passionate. And Ryan, I
really believe Erica, his wife, is going to take the
mantle and run with it at turning Point. Obviously, it's
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going to be a while. I lost my young husband
at age twenty seven. I was a widow and it's brutal.
It takes a long long time to heal. But I
think the act of staying engaged and seeing his mission
through will be healing for her, and it'll be an
important transition for her. If she's very involved, and who
takes the mantle and runs with it, and I hope
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it's her. I hope it's Erica. I do think she'd
be an incredible leader for that organization. And if Charlie
thought highly enough of her to marry her, I bet
he thinks highly of her, highly enough of her to
let her lead his organization.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So we're gonna go to break this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
As Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis, We'll see
you in just a minute.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Heidi Ganel here filling in for Dan Caplis. A few
more minutes left with you, and we got a text
message Ryan, I'm not quite sure what to say about this.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You can help me, Heidi. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
The leader of a magazine should not be acting that way,
but neither should the leader of our country.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Well, see, I've got some audio evidence, as I generally
do on this program, as we go to the archives.
So here's where we are not the same, Texter, and
you can't do this equivocation stuff, or I'm gonna go
gutfeld on you the way we did on Jessica Tarloff.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
This is bull blank and you know it.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Here's why what we just saw from the yellow scene
was basically tap dancing on the grave of Charlie Kirk,
calling him a Nazi. We shouldn't have flags at half
mass for a Nazi, right, Just incredulous that that would happen,
first of all, calling Charlie kirkha Nazi.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Secondly, in the wake of.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
His murder, of his assassination, Texter having the audacity to
gall the lack of any kind of soul or conscience
to say something like that.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Okay, I'm going to contrast.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Compare that with a Supreme Court justice of the United
States who died of natural causes at an elderly age,
was not murdered, was a political adversary of the president.
And it's so fitting that this took place at a
rally of his where the following song was in the background.
These were the words of the president, President Trump in
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the wake of the passing of Ruth Vader Ginsburg, comparing contrast,
if you will please, she just died.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
I just you're telling me that for the first time.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
She was an amazing woman.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
Woman who led an amazing life.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I am said to hear that I have said that,
thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Seems pretty high class to me.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, very That's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But when has Donald Trump basically after somebody has died
like that?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Never, yeah, never, And he wouldn't. That's the thing that
it just this is what I'm talking about. Charlie Kirk
was not a Nazi. He was a wonderful young man, Heidi,
who you knew personally and I wish I did. He
had conversations all over American campuses, college campuses where he
was very much outnumbered, and opposing views were welcome to
come up and speak into the microphone. Find me a
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liberal who does that, Texter, Find me one person on
the left. To Bill Maher's point, they don't have those conversations.
We are deplorable, We are beneath them, We are not
worthy of their time or acknowledgment. That's where we are
in the political discourse and discussion. And Donald Trump showed
so much class and grace in talking about Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
There.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
He doesn't tap dance on graves or celebrate an assassination
of anybody on the left. I challenge you to find otherwise,
and I know that you can't. But you're going to
keep calling him Hitler. You're going to keep calling us Nazis,
and you're going to think that it's okay. It's not okay.
It'll never be okay again, Heidi. In my mind, everything
changed Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's why we're still talking about it, and we're going
to keep talking about it because something shifted and they assassinated,
they killed in cold blood one of our favorite leaders
of young people in this country.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And it's not okay.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's not okay to act the way you are, and
you're starting to look like fools, and that's going to
show up at the ballot box, I believe. And I
wanted to end my time here today Ryan with if
you can pull up the number six with gut filled.
I think he says it perfectly in this little rant
that he does. This will be the rant to end
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the rants of today.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
If for one thing, there's no cognitive dissonance on our side.
On your side, your beliefs do not match reality. So
you're coming up with these rationalizations like.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
What about this or what about that?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
We're not doing that because we saw it happen. We
saw a young bright man assassinated and we know who
did it. We are not coming up with rationalizations. We
are calm, we are honest, and we are resolute.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
We're not defensive.
Speaker 13 (32:13):
And I understand the defensiveness. I understand why people are
saying what about this.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
And what about this?
Speaker 13 (32:19):
Because if you have to face the underlying fact to this,
your life is going to fall apart because you're gonna realize.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
You're not the good guys.
Speaker 13 (32:28):
If you sat around and you defended the mutilation of children,
you're not the good guys.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, they are not the good guys.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And I'm waiting for more and more people on the
left to stand up and say that, like Jamie Lee Curtis,
like Bill Maher, like I mean, come on, you guys, Yeah,
get some kahunas and stand up and say this is
not okay. And I guarantee that will go miles and
miles with the voters when it's time for those people
to get reelected.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Even on the left, to me, it almost seems like
they're not doing that on purpose because they know that
first of all, like Kathy Hochle basically a ransom video
having to endorse Zoron Mamdani, even though I mean, come on,
but they are so terrified of their extreme left flank
that is taking over, engulfing, devouring their once whatever party
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that they're not going to do it. And further that point,
they're kind of okay with it because if they weren't,
to your point, Heidi, they would do it, John Fetterman,
they would do a Bill Maher. They would stand up
and call this out for what it is. They would say, no,
it's not acceptable. We don't hear that from Chuck Schumer.
We don't hear that from Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi, Jared
Polis now where is he?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Where is he?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We don't hear it from him or Michael Bennet or
Phil Wiser or Jason Crowe. In fact, Jason Crowe made
that ridiculous post about men in the military making comments.
I can't remember what it was, but it was horrific.
I tweeted it. We'll have to look back and tweet.
I'll talk about it tomorrow. But Ryan, thanks for ranting
with me to know.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
This was cathartic.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
It was.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
That was a good thing.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Like I said, I even had one of my former
neighbors who's very liberal, listening in and saying that you
and I were killing it today.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I love that good well, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This is Heidig and all fill it in for Dan Kaplos,
and I'm excited to join you again Wednesday
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello everyone, it's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Capless,
bantering with my friend Ryan.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
We are fired up today about.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
How ridiculous, ridiculous some of the comments that the left
is making are. And I just you know, at some point, Ryan,
when do people wake up that vote that way and
say this is not okay?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Now?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I did see Jamie Lee Curtis. Did you see that clip?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, she had a meltdown the day after Charlie died
and was crying and basically.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Saying, this is not okay.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't agree with anything he says politically, but it's
not okay.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Fine, That's exactly how the reaction should be from a
normal person with a heart, a soul, and a conscience.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Right, But apparently there's not a lot of those out there.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know how I was saying, I had a weird
feeling about the text exchanges that were put out today.
So one of my friends on Twitter actually put it
through chat GTP and GPT.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I can't talk.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
To work earlier and chat GPT, and when asked if
it seemed real and genuine, the text exchange said it's
most likely fabricated, far too detailed and too incriminating to
be real. Chat GPT agrees with me. There's something off,
there's something weird. Why would he go to all.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
This trouble to text all of this?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And then the guy does say he remembers etching.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
The bullets, Like so the kid knew, the other kid knew,
the furry knew. But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think there's more to the story here, and I
believe me. I'm not going down the Candice Someone's route
right now about Israel. But I just feel like it's
weird that they're exposing so many things about this case,
and Brockler keeps commenting on that, like why are they
doing this? They're putting the case at risk by putting
all this.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Information out there.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
That's what I was thinking. I'm glad that Brackler agrees
with me on that.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I was wondering that it just doesn't seem right.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I want to talk for a minute about school safety, yesterday,
I had a researcher from Cuboulder on and I don't
think we got the answers we were looking for in
that segment. My mom said, that was ridiculous. You know,
I just I want answers. I want to know exactly
what we're supposed to do to protect our kids. So
I went back through my research and kind of the
gist of what the proposal I keep putting forward says.
(02:33):
And I wanted to give you guys some perspective. But
why don't you start if you can tee it up
with that clip my buddy Kyle zero zero about the
Evergreen High School shooting, And if you need a minute,
I can start going down the list, okay.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Jefson kind of Sheriff's office is their officers were on
the scene within two minutes of the first calls for help.
That response did not include the school's resource officer. Today,
we learned that the SRO usually assigned Evergreen High as
currently on medical leave. The night before the shooting, there
was a PTA meeting where parents express concern about the
lack of a full time SRO. Our Mark Salinger joins
(03:08):
us after speaking with the parent who.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Led that meeting, Mark, Yeah, Kylie, it's crucial to note
that we don't know if having an SRO here at
Evergreen High School could have prevented what happened here on Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
But today, like you mentioned, we found.
Speaker 8 (03:22):
Out that SROs are shared amongst schools here in Jefferson
County and here in areas like Evergreen and at Evergreen
High School. The night before this shooting, there was a
meeting here discussing just that topic.
Speaker 9 (03:36):
I woke up this morning and was like, when I
was opening my eyes, please let this just happen at Nightmare.
Speaker 10 (03:41):
As Cindy Majaka comes to terms with what happened at
her daughter's school this week, she thinks back to the
Parent Teacher Student Association meeting on Tuesday night.
Speaker 9 (03:50):
A mom sitting next to me said, directly to doctor artists,
why does Evergreen High School not have an SRO. Another
parent asked, what if there's a shooting?
Speaker 10 (04:00):
India is the PTSA president at Evergreen High School. The
meeting minutes published on the ptsa's website show the school
principle responded to the parents' questions about soros. Principal Artists
said the Mountain schools have been deprioritized and resources are shared.
She said, we were deprioritized because we were a small
mountain town with less crime than the schools down the
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hill with SROs.
Speaker 9 (04:23):
I don't think a lot of parents know about this.
Even as a PTA president, I didn't know about this.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
We reached out to Jeffco Public Schools asking about the
SRO policy for Mountain schools, but did not hear Back
On Thursday, the Sheriff's office provided some clarity.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
Evergreen High School used to have a full time SORO.
That SRO is on medical leave right now, so it's
a shared duty.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The Sheriff's office says.
Speaker 10 (04:47):
The SRO stationed at the school earlier that morning rotates
between other schools. A couple hours before the shooting, they
were dispatched to help with the car crash nearby.
Speaker 11 (04:57):
The SRO that was sharing responsibility of Evergreen High School
is allowed to come and go. You can go to lunch.
He might have to handle something in the parking lot,
and he might be covering something that's happening in the neighborhood.
Speaker 10 (05:08):
Sure Off deputies and first responders say they arrived at
the school within two minutes of the first nine to
one to one calls and located the shooter within five
minutes of the dispatch. We have no idea of having
a school resource officer at the school on Wednesday would
have prevented what happened.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
The people that at a meeting were texting me, we
just talked about this last night. We just did, and
it was eerie and almost as if did we jinx.
Speaker 10 (05:34):
This a meeting where the worst case scenario was brought
up the night before it became a reality.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
We still will ask to protect our students. It doesn't
matter if you live down the hill or up here.
Everybody needs to be protected. All of our kids need
to be protected.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
According to those meeting minutes from the PTSA website, it
shows that the principal here at Evergreen High School recommended
that the PTA members go to the Jeff Go Board
of Education and advocate for a full time SRO At
the next Board.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Of Education meeting.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
The PTSA president Cindy there tells me that they still
plan to do that.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Kyle and Market, as you alluded to right off the top,
I mean we should just come around and say that.
In Colorado said history of school shootings, we have seen
instances where SROs were crucial in stopping shooters. We have
seen other instances in which it honestly did not matter
at all because it happens so quickly, or it happens
at another part of a large campus.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
But it all does fall into.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
How families feel safe around schools.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Mark Salinger, thank you so much. Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, okay, number one, having a school resource officer on campus,
an armed school resource officer, of course, that's going to help.
It's actually going to help the kids feel safer too,
which is one of the statistics I was going to
bring up. And why are we spending ninety thousand dollars
or whatever the number two hundred and six thousand dollars
for Durango on DEI initiatives when we don't have full
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time school resource officers in the schools. That just blows
me away. And we've been saying this for years. We
also have incredible technology available now AI technology. The consense
of a gun is approaching the school or anywhere near
the school.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
This is not expensive stuff. This is solution oriented things
that we can do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You can hold a bake sale the PTA and raise
money to put this stuff into play. There's really cool
walkie talkies now that connect directly to law enforcement, not
just to each other. And that's an important way to
address this stuff. The other thing that blows me away
about how we protect our schools is we accept, we
expect the little secretary, the sixty five year old, lovely
(07:40):
little lady at the front desk to make the decision
about who to let in this school or not based
on a bad video at the front door. And most
of our doors are not monitored. Well, that's a whole
nother thing. The other thing that drives me crazy is
we've worked so hard to keep the school like locked
in inside safe, but then we send our kids out
on the playground with no security and with the drone
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technology and the.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Bad guys are smart, why would.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
We send our kids all out on the playground to
be sitting ducks without any kind of safety measures. Finally,
they talk about concentric protection when they talk about school safety.
So you not only have to keep the school safe,
but you have to look at the next circle out,
which is around the school, the neighborhood around the school,
so the school bus route, the route the kids walk,
and we should have police protection there.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We should have neighborhood walk programs.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
There's a really cool program where dads train how to
protect kids and be at the schools and alert if
there's a problem. There's bomb sniffing dogs, there's dogs that
can sniff out drugs. There's I mean, I think the
kids would love to have a Golden Retriever on campus
that can do double duty. So it's just it's solvable.
It's solvable. Ryan, and I just don't understand why we
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continue to see these incidents and nobody takes it seriously.
And I'm talking to both sides, the legislature, the leadership here,
the school administrators, Casby who seems to have plenty of time,
the Colorado Association of School Boards to create DEI programs,
but they can't protect our kids. And we did just
get a text that says from a listener. State Patrol
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investigates traffic accidents and unincorporated Jeffco, the part time srls
should have stayed at the.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
School recalled the sheriff.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Another one says the Jeffco sheriff is short staff due
to the Democrat County commissioners defunding the sheriff's office, because
I mean that has been happening around the state. The
Left likes to defund the police and there's consequences to that.
So Ryan, that's my rant to match your previous rant.
Go well, we're ranting after the break. This is hiding
and all filling in for Dan Capless.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Hello everyone, exhiding all back, filling in for Dan Caplis
today and talking back and forth with Ryan about the
crazy that's coming out on the left. And I got
another example of our favorite editor up in yellow at
the Yellow Scene magazine in Boulder.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's actually based out of Eerie.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Her name's Chavon Blades and she's the editor and owner
of Yellow Scene Magazine. And she posted a picture of
a flag I sent it to you, Ryan. That is
the police flag with the blue and it's peeling back
the blue stripe and it has.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
A Nazi symbol underneath it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So she thinks the police are Nazis too, Just so
you know, police officers up north. If she calls you
for your help, she says, Erie magas are threatening our
advertisers with boycotts again, Pride, Juneteenth, COVID housing, whatever they're
mad about. They've done it before like five times, always
the same people. Now it's Charlie Kirk words they apparently endorse.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What Yeah, that's what she says.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
From the uh.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
She's comparing these maybe philosophical or political objections to pride,
which I've had that conversation by the way, with my
good friends with the log Cabin Republicans that they feel
it's kind of infantalizing, yeah, and condescending and patronizing.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
So there's that. There's studentine. How they're going to compare
that to.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
The assassination of a political figure on our side. Hold
up for a minute, if a political figure again with
the caveat God forbid, don't want it. But if this
were to happen to somebody she liked, supported, exalted, thought
was a hero for their movement their side, would she
be responding? Well, if our side was pooh pooing it
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and like, oh now it's just this other person I
got murdered cold blood, broad daylight in public. The other
part is what does this thing called yellow scene like
sc any.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, it's Yellow Sea magazine.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
It's been around four years, so I used to write
hip pieces on me.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
All the time. Well you should take that as a compliment,
I am.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Well, just because you're called yellow scene doesn't mean you
have to do yellow journalism, and that's what all of
this represents. It's obviously ideologically driven, but not in an
honest way. This this logo, I mean, just says it
speaks volumes. But this should make people on the left cringe.
That's how That's how far askew this is.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, I'll tweet it out later or Ryan you can.
I sent you the screenshot.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
But this is nuts, Like, this is crazy that this
gal is writing this stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And if we were.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
A sane state, if we were not insane, then we
would figure it.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Out, right. So I just got a text on the
text line.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
A great quote I saw was truth sounds like hate
to those who hate truth.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Alexa, thank you. That's pretty spot on.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, I saw that. That's a good one, Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Going deeper down the rabbit hole about the text exchanges,
Matt Walsh says, I'm leaning very strongly towards the theory
that this text exchange with the killer and his lover
was scripted as a way to have solve the boyfriend.
It's almost exactly what Walter White did at the end
of Breaking Bad. Yeah, this feels like a strategy they
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cooked up from watching too much TV.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, they're very especially the alleged and we saw him
do it assassin very online like way online, the references,
the inscriptions on the ammunition, the nomenclature, the gaming.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
World that he lives in. This is what happens.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
When you narrow your entire world, your universe, within this
very narrow echo chamber. This is what I fear about.
You know, people used to be concerned about Heidi. Not
so much when we were younger, but maybe the kids
that just followed us, let's say, in the nineties with
too much online gaming, you know, the first person shooter
type games, and when it started going online you could
(13:50):
play with other people and other locations. It just turned
into its own kind of world and it starts to
blur the lines between reality and fantasy. And perhaps that
might be one of the root causes here. I don't know, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I just feel like there's something weird about it. But
this is another piece of information. Representative Anna Polina put
out Armed Queer's SLC is now under FBI investigation as
an extended network related to Charlie's Killer. The founder of
Armed Queer's SLC I assume that Salt Lake City is
also an organizer for PSL, which is funded by Nevill
(14:26):
Singham and the Chinese Communist Party. Why did Armed Queer's
Salt Lake City delete their Instagram after Charlie was murdered?
Why is Nevill Singham affiliated with radical extremist groups that
may have ties to Charlie Kirk's assassin. This is crazy stuff,
and that's a congresswoman tweeting that.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Yeah, and we've heard I understand George brockwa twenty third
Day's concerns about putting too much of the case out there,
but I think where I might have some daylight with
George on that is, this is such an important case
nationally for people to be assured that the investigation is
is going in the right direction, that they have the killer,
and they have evidence that some of that being entered
(15:05):
into the public sphere to a degree, I can understand.
But when you're pursuing this from the angle that we're
talking about, and Dan Bongino comes on, as a matter
of fact, did you see this now? So he, of
course is the deputy director of the FBI, and he
is privy to a lot of information that might be
on the inside. He is hinting at what Anna Paulina
Luna just did right there, these networks, these nefarious terrorist
(15:30):
sympathizing domestic terrorist organization networks. President Trump is hinted at
the fact that he might want pambody and I don't
think he should put it off on her. One, I
don't trust her that much, but two, he needs to
take that step forward. Yeah, Antifa is a domestic terrorist
organization and we are going to label them as such.
And any groups that had any affiliation, coordination, knowledge of malice,
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aforethought to this incident that was connected in any way,
they need to be held accountable. Because if you don't, Heidi,
then you're just leaving the door open to this happening
again and again.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We need to arrest people. Arrest people, please. I wanted
to give you heads up that this is concerning to
me as a mom. Before we go to break, I'm
gonna read this picture that I just got of the
memorial We're going to in Sunday in Arizona. Donald Trump's
going to be there, Jade Vance is going to be there,
Erica Kirk is going to be there. Marco Rubio, RFK
(16:26):
Junior Pete Hegseath, Tulci Gabbard, Don Junior, Tucker Carlson, Stephen Miller,
Sergio Gore, and Suzanne Scott.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Aren't we worried.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
About putting all those people in the same building. I'm sorry,
and I'm going to be in that building, But how
on earth are they going to protect all those folks
in one place?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
It kind of sparked another thought in my mind, Heidi.
When you compare a lot of the similarities included the
elevated platform from which the shooters took aim. Whether it
was Butler, Pennsylvania or Utah Valley University. I just don't
think you can have events like this outdoors anymore. That's
just my feeling. You can have the events, but they've
got to be indoors. We have controlled access points, you
(17:04):
have screening for weapons, metal detectors, all that. You just
look back on what happened with Charlie and there's just
so many moving parts and variables in the equation that
you can't control.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And that led to his demise.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, I mean, I just God bless him for being
so trusting and not naive because he knew. But I've
heard there were only six police officers there and two
of them were pulled off to deal with something else.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Did you hear that, Ryan, Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I had.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, that's frightening and hopefully that changes, and I hope
that it changes for this Thursday too, when we're up
at CSU. Let's see Dan or the left brings up
the Minnesota state reps that were shot by the mega guy.
It wasn't a mega guy. We already talked about that.
All right, This is Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis.
We'll see after the break and we'll bring on my
(17:51):
friend Tanner from turning Point.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Tidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Head into the last half hour of our constant ranting Ryan,
we're in ranting modes today.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
I got a lot of problems with you people, and
you're going to hear about them. Fest of Us.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Oh Lordie, let's go ahead and take a call from
Selena and Eerie.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
She has a comment about our.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Favorite magazine, Yellow Scene.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Selena, welcome to the show.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
Hi, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Tell us more about Yellow Scene.
Speaker 12 (18:45):
Well, I don't know if you actually heard what Sean
had posted on plue Sky and the reason for the uproar, Well, we.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Did earlier talk about a post where she said, imagine
that half asked for a Nazi the day that Charlie
was assassinated.
Speaker 12 (19:05):
That's right that and that's really the uproar. We completely
believe in free speech, which hopefully she does as well,
but when you lie and incite violence from those lives,
that's not okay.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, it's not okay. And like I mean, it's pretty
clear cut. I think when you're being violent or inciting violence,
I just it just ticks me off that like a
leader of a magazine, a pretty big magazine in the
North Metro area can get away with this. And I mean,
are people calling her out Selena, Yes, So there's.
Speaker 12 (19:44):
A petition going on and there's some posts just letting
people know, hey, this is what she wrote. You make
your decision. You want to support her advertise. If you don't,
then don't, but you deserve to understand what she sang.
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, I think I think if you're going to run
a business and you should be held accountable for your
words and let the free market do its thing. And
hopefully people are not happy with what she said. So Selena,
thank you so much for calling in. I appreciate it.
I you know, Ryan, I don't know how you feel
about this. Whole argument is hate speech like free speech.
(20:22):
And everybody's mad at Pam Bondi today and she clarified
what she meant. I mean, she's had a couple of
snamfoos like that, so I think she needs to be careful.
But these these words are inciting violence.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, that's a difference. It's a difference you don't have
the right to.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Basically, what we're talking about is green lighting this type
of violence, and it's showing in the polls that we
talked about earlier that liberals view it as justified. If
you truly view, like literally speaking, that Charlie Kirk was
a Nazi, that Donald Trump is Hitler. You know, you
have that question if you go back in time and
murder baby Hitler in the crib, would you do it?
(21:01):
And then you would be like, well, yeah, of course
I would. Well that's the same thing here. You apply
that thought process, that thought exercise, and if you truly
believe that your political opposition is existential evil, existential threats
to democracy, you've heard that before, then it's going to
green light maniacs and maybe people that aren't even that
far askew in terms of being maniacs. And you know what,
(21:23):
b N justifies the means by any means necessary.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I've got to take this person out. I've got to
silence them.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
I've got to make sure that they don't turn this
country into a fascistic regime, which is what we're being told.
There's constant evidence of that, Heidi, of them demonizing our
side of the aisle with these extremist terms that people
are buying because they keep hearing it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's right, that's right, And I'm sorry, but I just
think everybody could just take a little bit of a
lesson from Charlie like he came at it like from
a place of law, and even though he disagreed with people,
he listened to them. He wanted conversation, he wanted to
try and understand them, and yeah, he'd go back and
(22:10):
forth and articulate how he felt about certain issues. But
I mean, I wonder what he would say right now
about everything that's going on and how we should what
we should call out, how we should call it out,
what we should talk about. In a few minutes, we're
going to talk to Tanner, and Tanner heads up the
University of Colorado Turning Point Shoulder. It's the Boulder. So
(22:33):
that's going to come in the next segment. But I
wanted to update everybody on a stat that Turning Point
just tweeted out they have received fifty four thousand requests
from students to open chapters, participate in chapters, or help chapters.
Like that's insane, that is so amazing, and that is
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making Charlie smile up in the heavens like that, and
the number of people that were at church last Sunday,
that makes Charlie very happy.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I you know, I've been a part of Turning Point
for a long time and the kids.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
That stayed consistent with it, the students.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're hardcore, like they're warriors, they're they're unflappable. But we
want to bring more kids into the mix, and we
want to give more students opportunities.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
To get involved and engaged.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So if you know a child or a grandchild that
is interested in free speech and lower and lower size
of government, and you know, fighting communism, then find out
if the local high school has a chapter.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Find out if.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Their high school has a chapter, ask go on the
website and volunteer under I think it says get involved
at the top of the Turning Point website TPUSA dot
com and offer to mentor a student or help them
get a chapter going, either on college campus or a
high school campus. Also, if you're past high school and college,
we've got Colorado Young Republicans. There are fourteen chapters across
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the state now for young professionals who want to get
involved and engaged that are past college. And then finally
on the college campuses, there's also American Conservation Coalition ACC,
which are conservative leaning students who care about the environment
and want to talk about clean land, clean air, clean
water from a free market perspective. There's new which is
(24:28):
for young women on college campuses, and I can't remember
what the acronym is Network of Enlightened Women. I believe
they have a chapter it's U Boulder in the other campuses.
So there's lots and lots of ways to get engaged,
and I just think it's time to give our young
people a boost and say, hey, we're here to have
your back, we're here to help, and this is the
(24:50):
way forward. And honestly, there are more young people like
pre registering to vote in Colorado Republican than there are
Democrats right now. My sixteen year old scot or driver's license,
and of course they asked her, would you like to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Register to vote?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And I just cringe and I'm like, you're sixteen. And
then they asked which party would you like to affiliate
with or would you like to be unaffiliated? And of
course my daughter says, I'm a proud Republican.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I want to register as a Republican.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
And the number of kids who are doing that across
the state is skyrocketing.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So let's take a.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Little bit of a glimmer of hope from that. Let's
also get our young people things to read, good documents
to read, good websites to follow, or podcasts to follow.
Of course, they can look at old Charlie videos, they
can watch Peger you. There's tons of great speakers out
(25:44):
there that they can watch online. So that's another way
you can help your young people. I'm very passionate about
this because for six years at the University of Colorado,
I saw how bullied the conservative students were and the
faculty actually, but the students were mean that the liberal
students were just plaining mean and it really ticked me off.
(26:06):
So I have a tender place in my heart for
those students who survived that time period. Hopefully things are
changing by the number of students who are showing up
to these turning point events and signing up to be involved.
I think this is a special moment in history and
things are going to change dramatically.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I sure hope they do.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And I know Charlie's going to smile down every time
there's another student who's brave enough and bold enough to
speak out, to go to church when they haven't been,
going to proclaim their faith, or to protect free speech,
or speak up for free speech, or to fight against communism.
Those are the things he's really passionate. And Ryan, I
really believe Erica, his wife, is going to take the
mantle and run with it at turning Point. Obviously, it's
(26:45):
going to be a while. I lost my young husband
at age twenty seven. I was a widow and it's brutal.
It takes a long long time to heal. But I
think the act of staying engaged and seeing his mission
through will be healing for her, and it'll be an
important transition for her. If she's very involved, and who
takes the mantle and runs with it, and I hope
(27:07):
it's her. I hope it's Erica. I do think she'd
be an incredible leader for that organization. And if Charlie
thought highly enough of her to marry her, I bet
he thinks highly of her, highly enough of her to
let her lead his organization.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
So we're gonna go to break this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
As Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis, We'll see
you in just a minute.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Heidi Ganel here filling in for Dan Caplis. A few
more minutes left with you, and we got a text
message Ryan, I'm not quite sure what to say about this.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You can help me, Heidi. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
The leader of a magazine should not be acting that way,
but neither should the leader of our country.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Well, see, I've got some audio evidence, as I generally
do on this program, as we go to the archives.
So here's where we are not the same, Texter, and
you can't do this equivocation stuff, or I'm gonna go
gutfeld on you the way we did on Jessica Tarloff.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
This is bull blank and you know it.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Here's why what we just saw from the yellow scene
was basically tap dancing on the grave of Charlie Kirk,
calling him a Nazi. We shouldn't have flags at half
mass for a Nazi, right, Just incredulous that that would happen,
first of all, calling Charlie kirkha Nazi.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Secondly, in the wake of.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
His murder, of his assassination, Texter having the audacity to
gall the lack of any kind of soul or conscience
to say something like that.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Okay, I'm going to contrast.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Compare that with a Supreme Court justice of the United
States who died of natural causes at an elderly age,
was not murdered, was a political adversary of the president.
And it's so fitting that this took place at a
rally of his where the following song was in the background.
These were the words of the president, President Trump in
(28:55):
the wake of the passing of Ruth Vader Ginsburg, comparing contrast,
if you will please, she just died.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
I just you're telling me that for the first time.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
She led an amazing life. What else can you say?
She was an amazing woman.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing.
Speaker 13 (29:27):
Woman who led an amazing life.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I am said to hear that I have said that,
thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Seems pretty high class to me.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, very That's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But when has Donald Trump basically after somebody has died
like that?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
No?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Never, yeah, never, And he wouldn't. That's the thing that
it just this is what I'm talking about. Charlie Kirk
was not a Nazi. He was a wonderful young man, Heidi,
who you knew personally and I wish I did. He
had conversations all over American campuses, college campuses where he
was very much outnumbered, and opposing views were welcome to
come up and speak into the microphone. Find me a
(30:17):
liberal who does that, Texter, Find me one person on
the left. To Bill Maher's point, they don't have those conversations.
We are deplorable, We are beneath them, We are not
worthy of their time or acknowledgment. That's where we are
in the political discourse and discussion. And Donald Trump showed
so much class and grace in talking about Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
There.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
He doesn't tap dance on graves or celebrate an assassination
of anybody on the left. I challenge you to find otherwise,
and I know that you can't. But you're going to
keep calling him Hitler. You're going to keep calling us Nazis,
and you're going to think that it's okay. It's not okay.
It'll never be okay again, Heidi. In my mind, everything
changed Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's why we're still talking about it, and we're going
to keep talking about it because something shifted and they assassinated,
they killed in cold blood one of our favorite leaders
of young people in this country.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
And it's not okay.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's not okay to act the way you are, and
you're starting to look like fools, and that's going to
show up at the ballot box, I believe. And I
wanted to end my time here today Ryan with if
you can pull up the number six with gut filled.
I think he says it perfectly in this little rant
that he does. This will be the rant to end
(31:40):
the rants of today.
Speaker 13 (31:42):
If for one thing, there's no cognitive dissonance on our side.
On your side, your beliefs do not match reality. So
you're coming up with these rationalizations like.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
What about this or what about that?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
We're not doing that because we saw it happen. We
saw a young bright man assassinated and we know who
did it. We are not coming up with rationalizations. We
are calm, we are honest, and we are resolute.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
We're not defensive.
Speaker 13 (32:13):
And I understand the defensiveness. I understand why people are
saying what about this.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
And what about this?
Speaker 13 (32:19):
Because if you have to face the underlying fact to this,
your life is going to fall apart because you're gonna realize.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
You're not the good guys.
Speaker 13 (32:28):
If you sat around and you defended the mutilation of children,
you're not the good guys.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, they are not the good guys.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And I'm waiting for more and more people on the
left to stand up and say that, like Jamie Lee Curtis,
like Bill Maher, like I mean, come on, you guys, Yeah,
get some kahunas and stand up and say this is
not okay. And I guarantee that will go miles and
miles with the voters when it's time for those people
to get reelected.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Even on the left, to me, it almost seems like
they're not doing that on purpose because they know that
first of all, like Kathy Hochle basically a ransom video
having to endorse Zoron Mamdani, even though I mean, come on,
but they are so terrified of their extreme left flank
that is taking over, engulfing, devouring their once whatever party
(33:19):
that they're not going to do it. And further that point,
they're kind of okay with it because if they weren't,
to your point, Heidi, they would do it, John Fetterman,
they would do a Bill Maher. They would stand up
and call this out for what it is. They would say, no,
it's not acceptable. We don't hear that from Chuck Schumer.
We don't hear that from Hakeem Jeffries, Nancy Pelosi, Jared
Polis now where is he?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Where is he?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We don't hear it from him or Michael Bennet or
Phil Wiser or Jason Crowe. In fact, Jason Crowe made
that ridiculous post about men in the military making comments.
I can't remember what it was, but it was horrific.
I tweeted it. We'll have to look back and tweet.
I'll talk about it tomorrow. But Ryan, thanks for ranting
with me to know.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
This was cathartic.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
It was.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
That was a good thing.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Like I said, I even had one of my former
neighbors who's very liberal, listening in and saying that you
and I were killing it today.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I love that good well, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
This is Heidig and all fill it in for Dan Kaplos,
and I'm excited to join you again Wednesday
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