June 17, 2025 • 34 mins
President Trump has moved from a willingness to negotiate with Iran on a nuclear deal short of weaponization, but the landscape has changed dramatically - and the ayatollah is in no position to make any demands or insist upon any concessions from Israel. Will Iran agree to complete and total surrender and the end of its theocratic regime?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Life's so fast anymore.
I think it's hard sometimes just to stop and realize
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the moment in history that we're living through. And obviously
you don't have that many peak moments every day is important,
but we are living through, no question, right now, one
of the most important watershed crossroad moments in modern world history,
and it's unfolding before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And as we sit here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Right now at five oh six mountain time, we have
no idea whether it's going to be two days, two months,
something in between. But we know the world will never
be the same, and we know it is highly likely
that this evil regime will be gone in Iran, particularly
after today. President Trump publicly came out with the flag
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in the ground, unconditional surrender, nothing less. He doesn't do
that unless he's certain that's going to happen. How much
pain will there be? We can be certain there will
be a lot of pain. Evil Historically we look at it.
Evil never dies easily. That's the nature of evil, and
so this evil regime will take a lot of innocent
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people with it on the way out probably and pray
it doesn't, but that's likely what's going to happen here.
It's just part of this cleansing cycle we've seen throughout
human history when good overcomes evil, and evil just has
this massive surge and spurt of killing as as it
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gives up its existence. So I think that's what we
have ahead of us. I think it's going to unfold
sooner than later. Just within the last ten minutes, the
United States is closing its embassy this Wednesday through Friday.
This Wednesday through Friday, it's embassy in Jerusalem, and CNN
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reporting that President Trump considering US military strikes in Iran
following the meeting long meetings today in the Situation Room.
New York Times reporting that Iran, and I'm sure it's
well sourced there is considering retaliatory strikes on US basis. Now.
I have to believe part of President Trump's calculation is
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expecting something like that, and that that would then be
the green light, you know, for direct US air support
of israel I don't know. I don't have the knowledge.
I don't have access to classified information. I don't know
whether these many reports that Israel as phenomenally brilliant and
courageous as and ineffective as it's been can't get into
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these deep, deep bunkers without US bunker busters. I don't
know if those reports are just urban myths or true.
But certainly, as Trump has said, President Trump is said
if there are attacks on US basis, any kind of
attack on any US citizen or forces, that there will
be a massive response. So he may well be be
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expecting something like that, and that would then be the
trigger to take that next step from the US end.
All right, let's get to the phones. I want to
get you some hot sound as well. Work in Texters,
particularly those who disagree with me, and I do think
we'll play some of that Tucker Carlson sound critical of
the President, and I agree with the President's approach. But
in a matter this important, I think it's even even
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more critical that we hear all of the opposing views,
and we hear their entire reasoning. I think that's very
very important. Now, when we went to break, we were
talking with a gentleman. I don't know if he's just
pulling our leg or if he really is supporting the
evil things he appears to have called the show to support.
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But we're going to find out together. Take a trip
back down to beautiful Colorado spring. Steve, you're still with us.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, you asked me, do you think nine or October
seven was justified? But in doing that, you deflected from
my argument that taking thousands, but tens of thousands of
Palestinians for throwing rocks for ten years at a time
is what triggered the whole thing, and that was equally unjustified.
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And I think it was calculated to foment war. I
think it goes back to the Crusades, and there's an
unholy alliance between US and Israel, and it's dragging the
goods used down with them. Not only America, it's anti America.
What Israel stands for. It stands for spine assassinations, shutting
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down free speech, starting wars, killing, committing holocaust literally as
we are watching. And Trump is a chump when it
comes to Israel. I like a lot of what Trump does,
but when it comes to Israel, I don't know what's
wrong with this book.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Let's start there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I know you have more, but I want to take
it piece by piece, and I hope before the end
of this call I can get an understanding as to
where this animosity toward Israel comes from, because I think
you've got it backwards. But first, in terms of your history,
that that this is all caused by Israel arresting a
bunch of rock throwers. You need to you need to
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sue your history teacher. That that's where you need to
start this thing.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Second, in the news that they have had to release
ends of thousands already, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No such thing.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But let's get back to the core question, Steve, because
I think it's so important for everybody listening to be
able to h to make their own decisions about what
you have to say. And that is a direct answer
to the question, do you think October seven was justified?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it was welcomed by Yahoo and pray for it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, you know what I'm going You know what I'm
going to do here, my friend, and I think you've
already seen that, more so than probably anybody else on air.
I'm willing to give you time, even though I find
your views to be completely obscene and reprehensible. But I'm
willing to give you time because I'm not afraid of
your ideas. But I'm not going to waste our listener's time.
If you refuse to answer seminal direct question.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'll ask your question. What's your question?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know, I'll ask it again. You know what it is.
Do you believe the October seven attacks, including the rape
of Israeli women, the murder of children, the burning of children?
Do you think those attacks were justified?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think they were not justified, But I also say
that Israel is just as unjust and its provocative behavior
that I think is designed to annihilate Muslims and work
for the crusades. Going back to this a little royal family.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A little more specific, they're my friend, k can you
show me what Israel has done that would even remotely
compare to that?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, besides the genocide and the holocaust that they have
just committed of thirty eight ninety forty thousand people's lives
for harboring terrorists basically and depriving them of recovery and
all that, and trying to run them out and turn
it into a casino for Trump. Okay, so than that,
now they have taken over. They have. They have taken
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over on media. Yeah, yes they have. That's why you
don't hear any DISSENTTV ME hold on, Steve.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
At this point, we're either into your pulling our leg
or this is Looney Tunes stuff. So what I what
I really want to understand, is where this level of
hatred and animosity comes from.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Because you made it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'll tell you, I'll tell you. And I like the Jews,
I used to like Israel, never raised prejudice. But if
you go to Lenin murder truth dot com and when
you see a photograph of even King getting John Lennon's
last autograph, and you find out that is really the
ones covering it up, and they did it so they
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could bomb Saddam Husseins their fability without Lenin is the master.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Don't take this prejudice, don't take this the wrong way.
All I can do is pray for you, and I will,
I will, and thank you for calling the show.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We all know that there one is too many, but
there are way too many Jew haters out there, and
and there are way too many people who would celebrate
seeing another Holocaust. I'm not saying Steve is one of
those I don't know. I'm not saying he is, but
but there are way too many of those people. And
the fact that this nation, this small nation, geographically small
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nation population wise, has been able to survive and thrive
and achieve the accomplishments they have military, domestic, economic, technological,
and has been able to now take on this evil
regime with great success.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's it's biblical right.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I say that is a completely devoted, committed Catholic Christian.
But there's one of the slanders that Steve offered that
is just a great way to put a bow on this.
And then everybody else, thank you for your patients.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll get you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
At the start of the segment when Steve talked about
this unholy alliance between the US and Israel, and he
has it exactly backwards. It's a very holy alliance because
part of the tremendous support of the US, and unfortunately
the Modern Democratic Party's breaking with this and paying the
price for it, but part of the tremendous support and
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well deserved of our ally Israel by the US has
come from the fact that the US is a majority
Christian country, and Christians, I think have a proper reverence
for the Holy Land and for Jews is our big
brothers and sisters in the faith. And obviously, I and
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all Christians believe by definition that She's is Christ is divine,
and that is that is the simple truth, and that
is why we are Christians. But we understand that the
holiness of the Holy Land and the Jews is God's
chosen people, and the Jews is are big brothers and
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sisters in the faith. And this commitment that they not
be annihilated and that we do everything we can to
help protect them runs deep in this country, and that
is a very good thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You're on the Dankaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I love the song, but why here?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Dan? You read the Dan post by Trump? Nobody does
it better than the US.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh can't you read it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I read a bunch of posts forgive me, but my
focus has been on the post that says unconditional surrender
exclamation point ks you want the president has put the
flag in the ground. That is what's going to happen.
And now the question is how and how quickly?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, and you're asking me, do you want?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Never surrendered?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
By Corey Hart or Surrender by Cheap Trick.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But you got to post a Springsteen just because he's
a lefty falling down Kelly talk to it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I put him up to playing Carly sinon she He
really did say, nobody does it better. And I'm I
was here, he he because he cues his stupid music
and I'm sitting here trying to sing and get into
a rhythm and he just keeps, you know, cutting and
trying to cue it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I gotta trust you, nobody has ever done music better
on radio than Ryan does on talk shows. But I
do have to tell you, guys as I go back
to our jam lines and text, because we are living
through this very historic moment together. You know me, I'm
an early morning guy, right, and so I'm kind of
like out on my feet today because I'm used to
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in these trial modes, getting very very little sleep each
night and doing fine with it. So last night I
made the mistake of getting a full night's sleep. Oh
and so now what Today's a tough day. Yeah, But
so I get up. I get up about one thirty
in the morning, maybe two, and then I wake up
to this Google alert.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, says Google alert.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Dame capitalists, and I look at it and it says
John Caldera fills in and declares it no capitalist thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That had to be a great show. He did do that,
it had to be.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
There was a little bit of animosity teached me to
miss it. Well, there's that he was having fun with it,
of course.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But yeah, no, no, I love Johnny, No, even if
he doesn't love me, I did john Just.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
One point of order.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
In the illegal parlance of our time, the Bruce Springsteen
song is called no Surrender.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh really, no, no retreat, no surrender.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, all right, alrighty, let's go to the phone lines. Hey,
if you just joined us that, I think the big
headline of the day can be summed up this way.
President Trump has made it clear the Iranian regime is
going to fall. He's put the flag in the ground,
and you don't complete surrender. That that is what he's
demanding at this point. And he knows at this point
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that his own credibility effectiveness is at stake worldwide. So
I don't think he posts that unconditional surrender verbatim unless
he is certain it's going to happen. So that's kind
of the backdrop for everything we talk about today. Lines
of jam Let's start in Oervada. We'll talk to Dean.
You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Welcome, Hey Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I really don't think that Iran will surrender. I think
they would rather die than you know, NYE on the sword,
than say, USA wins. So I think this is going
to go down to the bunker busters and destroying their
nuclear stockpile and then you know, they get overthrown by
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the UH because eventually they're gonna he'll either die in
the bombing, the leader or somebody will take him out.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But I think they got to have a new regime.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
And that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I appreciate the call, and obviously that that is the
most certain and effective way to defanin Iran's nuclear technology
is to have regime change, and clearly that's part of
the overall strategy, right. I mean, the President and Prime
Minister net Yaou have been open about that. And when
the President posts today unconditional surrender exclamation mark, I think
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he is sending a message to the good people of
Iran that this is the time, and obviously people of
Iran are more likely to take that big leap and
attempt to overthrow the regime starting with you know, the
revolutionary guard in the streets if they know that they
have the support of the American president. I remember doing
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a show for Montana is up there in a case,
and you had people in the streets and large numbers
in Iran saying, Obama, help us, Obama help us. It
was Arab Spring and Obama chose the Iyatolas. Trump is
not too the Iatolas, and he's made that clear to
the people. Let's go back down to beautiful Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Talk to Warren. You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Welcome, Hey Dan, good to talk to you, just to
talk to you. Yeah, and I agree with you one
hundred percent about Biden and the border and also by Iran.
What you're talking about Iran, But I don't just call
it evil. It has a lot to do with Islam.
And I'll explain what I'm talking about. Are you familiar
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with the duality of Islam?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, hey, Warten, let me just interupterence segment because I
got about thirty five forty seconds left in this segment.
I don't think this has anything to do with Islam
the way that faith is practiced by most people. I
think you have these these Ayatolas who have these radical
Islamist views where where they believe or claim to believe.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That they have to kill all Jews.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Hey, I can hang on for forty seconds, Jim and
mixed section because the duelism explains what you're just trying
to figure out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And warn You're welcome, hang on and welcome to make
a point. Here's my challenge today. Okay, we're covering a
fast moving war and so I'm trying to stay focused
on the military aspects.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
I just hope that works out for the best. Yeah,
they get rid of that regime. I hope it doesn't
get blowing out deal where they shut down the oil
tankers and the presure oil goes up and after that.
Crazy to do that, but they're able to take themselves
out anyway because that's what they believe. They believe it
them the rule's proven that over and over again. To
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die and see the loss of the faith, that's what.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
They're going to do.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It'll be interesting to see because so many of these
people right who get others to go out and martyr
themselves don't seem anxious to murder themselves personally. By the way,
Israel says it killed a run senior most military official,
and this senior most military official, run senior most military
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official now killed by Israel has been in the job
for how many days, Ryan after Israel killed his predecessor? Day? Yes, yeah, yeah,
actually five, So this one lasted five days. But this
is the top military commander in Iran has now been
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killed five days after he assumed that position from his predecessor,
who was also killed by Israel.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Question real quick, why do you think they've left the
Ayatola alive?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I believe Trump when he said that that he has
come out strongly against killing the Iotola, and I think
I think that's part of an overall plan by Trump
that I think is a very very wise plan. I
think Trump assumes at this point the regime is going
to fall, and he's just looking ahead to what comes
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next and what may help facilitate that being the best
possible version and of what comes next year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
On The Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Show, you're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Obviously we're living through history together here. I think it
will end up being one of the top five most
important events of our lifetimes in terms of world impact,
and I think the world impact is going to be
phenomenally great. But I understand the reality there's likely to
be much more pain before this evil regime falls, because
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evil's evil by nature, right, and historically it does not
expire without inflicting an awful lot of pain on an
awful lot of innocent people. So some tough times ahead,
but I think it's going to be a much better
world as soon as this regime's gone. The President today,
if you're just getting off work, is committed to the
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unconditional surrender of the Iranian regime, and so his very
firm position I think makes it much more likely that
that is actually going to happen. I want to get
to some sound and text as well. Here's that Tucker
Carlson with an opposing point of view. I support the
approach the President's taken.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He does not.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my
country's going to be further weakened by this. I think
we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously,
other nations would like to see that, and this is
a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the
shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end I believe,
Trump's presidency and effectively end it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And so that's why I'm saying, what do you mean
by that's that's coming for you? That's you get.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Look, I knew Bush. I knew George W. Bush with
you know, family connection with Smush. I knew Bush personally.
I still see Bush sometimes and you know, of course
he hates me, and he does because I criticized him
on Iraq and that war is the sum total from
historical perspective of his administration.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And listen, on something this important, I do think it's
even more important that we hear opposing voices. And you
may oppose Trump's position on this, but that we hear
opposing voices and hear them out because this is so
large and the stakes are so large, and war by
nature is such a large, you know, moral decision to make.
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And so I want to hear more from Tucker Carlson,
even though I don't agree with what he said so far,
and I don't even begin to understand his reasoning there.
I don't think there'd be any reason for any thinking
person to expect that this, this this war against the
Iranian regime is going to turn into large scale boots
on the ground, Israeli boots or American boots or any
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other boots. I don't support any American boots on the
ground in Iran. I don't think that's necessary. I think
the question is whether the participation of American pilots is necessary.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I hope that American munitions equipment, et cetera will be enough.
But yeah, I don't know why Tucker would think there'd
be a comparison here to the war in I Rock,
where it was obviously the large scale ground effort that
ended up causing so much misery and death and trouble.
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And by the way, as we get back to phone
lines and calls, I will be just as one guy.
I will be forever grateful to all the men and
women who who fought and died, all the men and
women who sacrificed to all their families that our family
gets to live now in a world without Saddam Hussein
and his henchmen.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And I'll forever be grateful for that. Whether that was
worth it, I think can only be decided by the
people who made the sacrifice. I think people like me
can just be grateful, and I think we will all
be grateful to Israel, and we'll all be grateful to
anybody else who now contributes to taking out this evil
Iranian regime. ALRIGHTI let's get back to Let's get back
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to the sound in the text, really a great text
to kick this off.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And so you've said.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Over and over that Trump is the most anti war
president ever, yet here we are dragging US soldiers into it. Respectfully, Texture,
I think you have it backwards.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He is.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think he's the most anti war president we've had
in my short lifetime, and he's been extraordinarily effective at it.
And he's being effective right now because that the best
way to have peace is to prove that you are ready,
willing and able to fight and win a war. That's
the best way to get peace. I wish evil didn't
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exist in the world. I wish it didn't gain power
in the world. I wish you didn't have evil people
like Putin and g and Kim Jong un and the
Ayatolas who were running entire nation states.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I wish that didn't exist. But as long as it exists.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The only way to be anti war is to prove
you're ready to win it, and that's what Trump's doing.
And the beauty of this right now is that we
are about to see this victory in Iran. And there
hasn't been a single US troop in harm's way, meaning
over country at this point. Obviously, everybody at our bases
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in the regions in danger. But yeah, and now it
may come to pass. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't
think you would be if all of a sudden President
Trump added some air power, air support, particularly since if
the experts on TV are right, and I can't know
if they are or not. I don't have classified access.
But Natan's Florida, it may very well take, particularly at Florida,
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which is about one hundred miles from Tehran, you know,
about the same distance as vailed to Denver. It may
very well take you know, US bombers, bunker busters, etc.
To get into that deep, deep mountain, you know, refinement
facility at FORDA. Maybe it does, and maybe that's what
it comes to. Three h three someone three eight two
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five five the number text d A N five seven
seven three nine. Would you support that or would you
oppose that. How about you, Ryan, if it came to that,
would you support US air support?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I talked about this earlier on my program, which precedes yours.
Is called the dan Caplis pregame Show, is what I
like to refer to it as.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But come, I'm never invited. Well, you're always invited your invitation, right, Yes, you've.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Got an open invitation. You do, like everybody to your wedding, right,
Minimal risk for American casualties. Air support only a very
thoroughly and clearly defined mission and plan, execute it, get out,
And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes, Well, you can be sure of one thing, right
that the warriors in the United States military are probably
chomping at the bit to be part of taking down
this evil regime.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
A listener brought up have you seen Top Gun Maverick
the sequel?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Yet?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
How many times?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Good? Well, the whole plot of that don't identify the
nemesis that we're fighting against. But the mission very difficult,
and I think there's some similarities there about taking this out.
It's got to be a precise shot. I think we
have both the intel and the capability, and again, if
this is to do it once and for all, like
I said, quick strike, you're in, You're out, it's over.
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I support that, but not to get dragged down like
some people are insinuating. Kelly and I are getting very
frustrated back here, very text like all American boots on
the ground, We're gonna get this slog, this quagmire, and
in Iran it's to your earlier point, this is Apple's
and Oranges comparison to Iraq, and it should be and
we shouldn't put boots.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
On the ground in iron.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, And I would love and I'll look, and if
you'd look, I would love to find some informed commentator
out there who believes there's a scenario where this would
lead to something similar to the Iraq war. I just
don't see any scenario here where that happens. And that's
why I don't understand Tucker Carlson's comparison and line of
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attack here. But those who disagree would love to hear
from you. Dan Trump wants aron Ziyahtola live, so he
has to publicly sign the declaration of complete thurrender as
the word watches. Yeah, that ain't happen, and that is
not happening, and and no, I think right now President
Trump is very wisely looking around three or four corners
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toward what happens the morning after. And we'll devote a
lot of the show to this tomorrow, what happens in
Iran after this.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Evil regime falls.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And so I think that that President coming out today
and say an unconditional surrender exclamation point is designed in
part to try to encourage the people inside Iron to
overthrow the regime right now, while the regime is so vulnerable.
I think Trump publicly saying that he has opposed taking
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out the Ayatola, I think he has an eye on
what comes next, because within Iran there is some support
obviously for this evil regime. And I think think President
Trump and his team are probably wanting and as they should,
the most cohesive Iran as a nation stake possible after
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this regime falls. Obviously wants a free Iran and hopefully
one that inches or leaps and bounds closer to democracy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But you you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Don't want to run torn by internal strife after this
regime falls, as and if the Ayatola is targeted and
taken out, it might be harder to put a run
completely back together. Obviously you'd have many their celebrated. But
I think Trump is wisely looking toward a stable around
the day after. Is the day after going to come Friday?
(27:41):
Is it going to come two months from Friday? None
of us can know, but I think we can be
confident it's coming. Hey, get back to the phone lines
and text. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, the president demanding unconditional surrenders.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So at this.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Point you have to expect there will be regime change
because look at President Trump and is kind of historic
effectiveness and success has been based at the core on
peace through strength, on you know, there's this proper perception
of the president is very strong and if you mess
with him, you're going to pay a price. And that has,
(28:22):
you know, led to him be in a very effective
peacemaker worldwide. And at this point he knows he's brilliant.
He can't come out and declare publicly that the regime
must fall and then have anything short of that happen, right,
or he loses his effectiveness, particularly against a backdrop where
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for the first time he's been publicly defied. You know,
both Putin and Zelenski defying him to varying degrees, and
so there's no doubt in my mind that's front and
center in his mind as he takes this position with
regard to Irun And what that tells me, and right,
I don't have access to the information, the classified information,
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What that tells me is the president is certain that
this Iranian regime is going to fall, and that he
wants the fall of that regime to now boost his
effectiveness as a world peacemaker, you know, and he wants
to be part of that success. And he's now committed
to doing whatever it takes. I think he's committed to
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doing whatever it takes to make sure that regime falls.
So I think he has an eye on the war
in Ukraine as he does this. I think he has
an eye on China and North Korea and every other
hot spot in the world as he does this. It's
one of the reasons I'm so optimistic that this regime
(29:43):
will now fall. Joe and Arvada, you're on the damn
CAPLIS show.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Welcome.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
First, I want to say, God, let's ryan to plan.
That's becoing message to my youth.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Okay, thank You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, nobody, nobody better at that than right Ryan, What
is this single single best bump you've ever played?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I don't know, man, and can't sit on his own jury,
right the ones that made me?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Did you ever spend summers at pent Water?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I sure did.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
That's a beautiful are Oh so I had, we we
all had modified jeeps, this and that, and long story short,
The last trip I was there was the last run
of my teep, but Buddy might bought it and it
ended up upside down. But that's that's past. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(30:36):
full rocage at any rate. I wanted to point out
and Kelly, I spoke to Kelly. I guess Kelly's dad
was involved with the development of the B two bomber.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Wow, that's true.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
So what I wanted to point out is because yeah,
these uh nuclear things, they need to be taken out,
and I'm pretty sure that only the US can do.
And there are two aircraft that can deliver those bunker
busters thousand the air winger in the minicls, and that's
the B two and the thirty five. And as I
(31:13):
understand it now, we have air superiority meaning all their
triple A, any aircraft, artillery are wiped out. So yeah,
we need to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Go over there, identify those tibets.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
And take them out, take them out, you know, because
it's not just I mean, my goodness, if I ran
were to get a nuclear weapons oh yeah, yeah, well
they sell it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Joe appreciate the call. No, but but this is exhibit A, right, yeah,
and so many others. This is why Iron cannot have anue.
There's no doubt they would take out Israel. But the
whole world's going to be better off. So let's say prayer,
Let's say we we know it's there's going to be
a lot more pain evil Just that's how evil dies, right,
it goes down fighting and and inflicting as much pain
(31:58):
on innocent people as it can. And that's been the
history of this evil regime. And so yeah, let's hope
it happens sooner than later. And I think it's gonna
happen within a window here, right, what would you guess, Ryan,
I mean, none of us can know. But but with
the President's declaration today, and you cannot allow this regime
to survive at this point, because if the regime survives this,
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they come back stronger than ever.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And then you don't as that regime, then it's not
a matter of Okay, they've got to rebuild the tons
and then they've got to enrich and all this, and
that they're gonna be importing nukes at that point. If
that regime can survive this, you're gonna have China feeding them.
You're gonna have Russia feeding them. It's no, it can't happen,
and it won't happen.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But that's why that word is so key and that
we've been keying in on with the music. Coming back
is unconditional surrender. Surrender meaning you're done, buddy, Yeah, your
chance negotiate. I'm done with negotiating, and we're gonna it's
gonna end, and it's either gonna end on our terms or.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, well, well I think what he said is it's
going to end on our term, right, And it's just
a matter of how how hard it's going to be
between now and then, Dan and Ryan. Instead of boots
on the ground, about boots in the air F thirty
five eight pilots also wear boots.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That from Andy and a very good point and a
good point to show us.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
The exile offered the Ayatola in Qatar. That's a condition
of surrender, and he leaves and it's over. How about that.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The only thing that would surprise me there is if
Qatar took him.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I don't know they've been you know, they don't like
what we're doing here.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Considering here, you would not want that nation what it's
trying to do right now. And I'm an expert on
Qatar because I spent my anniversary in their airport one year,
right when our flight got to VERTI and I know
everything about that country. But you can be sure that
that's a brand they don't want, right, I mean, that
is a brand they don't want. Save harbor to leaders
(33:50):
of Hamas right, which is obviously beyond have scene. But
I do think they're trying to change that image and profile. Hey,
one of the things that's a.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Good lead to tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of course we'll have you up to the minute, but
one of the things we're going to talk about tomorrow
is what comes next, what comes next and around after
this regime falls, and what's that going to mean for
the world as we continue to follow obviously the ongoing war. Brian,
you're the best Kelly, thank you as always. Please join
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us tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Life's so fast anymore.
I think it's hard sometimes just to stop and realize
(00:20):
the moment in history that we're living through. And obviously
you don't have that many peak moments every day is important,
but we are living through, no question, right now, one
of the most important watershed crossroad moments in modern world history,
and it's unfolding before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And as we sit here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Right now at five oh six mountain time, we have
no idea whether it's going to be two days, two months,
something in between. But we know the world will never
be the same, and we know it is highly likely
that this evil regime will be gone in Iran, particularly
after today. President Trump publicly came out with the flag
(01:00):
in the ground, unconditional surrender, nothing less. He doesn't do
that unless he's certain that's going to happen. How much
pain will there be? We can be certain there will
be a lot of pain. Evil Historically we look at it.
Evil never dies easily. That's the nature of evil, and
so this evil regime will take a lot of innocent
(01:21):
people with it on the way out probably and pray
it doesn't, but that's likely what's going to happen here.
It's just part of this cleansing cycle we've seen throughout
human history when good overcomes evil, and evil just has
this massive surge and spurt of killing as as it
(01:43):
gives up its existence. So I think that's what we
have ahead of us. I think it's going to unfold
sooner than later. Just within the last ten minutes, the
United States is closing its embassy this Wednesday through Friday.
This Wednesday through Friday, it's embassy in Jerusalem, and CNN
(02:05):
reporting that President Trump considering US military strikes in Iran
following the meeting long meetings today in the Situation Room.
New York Times reporting that Iran, and I'm sure it's
well sourced there is considering retaliatory strikes on US basis. Now.
I have to believe part of President Trump's calculation is
(02:26):
expecting something like that, and that that would then be
the green light, you know, for direct US air support
of israel I don't know. I don't have the knowledge.
I don't have access to classified information. I don't know
whether these many reports that Israel as phenomenally brilliant and
courageous as and ineffective as it's been can't get into
(02:48):
these deep, deep bunkers without US bunker busters. I don't
know if those reports are just urban myths or true.
But certainly, as Trump has said, President Trump is said
if there are attacks on US basis, any kind of
attack on any US citizen or forces, that there will
be a massive response. So he may well be be
(03:09):
expecting something like that, and that would then be the
trigger to take that next step from the US end.
All right, let's get to the phones. I want to
get you some hot sound as well. Work in Texters,
particularly those who disagree with me, and I do think
we'll play some of that Tucker Carlson sound critical of
the President, and I agree with the President's approach. But
in a matter this important, I think it's even even
(03:32):
more critical that we hear all of the opposing views,
and we hear their entire reasoning. I think that's very
very important. Now, when we went to break, we were
talking with a gentleman. I don't know if he's just
pulling our leg or if he really is supporting the
evil things he appears to have called the show to support.
(03:53):
But we're going to find out together. Take a trip
back down to beautiful Colorado spring. Steve, you're still with us.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, you asked me, do you think nine or October
seven was justified? But in doing that, you deflected from
my argument that taking thousands, but tens of thousands of
Palestinians for throwing rocks for ten years at a time
is what triggered the whole thing, and that was equally unjustified.
(04:21):
And I think it was calculated to foment war. I
think it goes back to the Crusades, and there's an
unholy alliance between US and Israel, and it's dragging the
goods used down with them. Not only America, it's anti America.
What Israel stands for. It stands for spine assassinations, shutting
(04:42):
down free speech, starting wars, killing, committing holocaust literally as
we are watching. And Trump is a chump when it
comes to Israel. I like a lot of what Trump does,
but when it comes to Israel, I don't know what's
wrong with this book.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Let's start there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I know you have more, but I want to take
it piece by piece, and I hope before the end
of this call I can get an understanding as to
where this animosity toward Israel comes from, because I think
you've got it backwards. But first, in terms of your history,
that that this is all caused by Israel arresting a
bunch of rock throwers. You need to you need to
(05:22):
sue your history teacher. That that's where you need to
start this thing.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Second, in the news that they have had to release
ends of thousands already, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
No such thing.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
But let's get back to the core question, Steve, because
I think it's so important for everybody listening to be
able to h to make their own decisions about what
you have to say. And that is a direct answer
to the question, do you think October seven was justified?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I think it was welcomed by Yahoo and pray for it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, you know what I'm going You know what I'm
going to do here, my friend, and I think you've
already seen that, more so than probably anybody else on air.
I'm willing to give you time, even though I find
your views to be completely obscene and reprehensible. But I'm
willing to give you time because I'm not afraid of
your ideas. But I'm not going to waste our listener's time.
If you refuse to answer seminal direct question.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'll ask your question. What's your question?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know, I'll ask it again. You know what it is.
Do you believe the October seven attacks, including the rape
of Israeli women, the murder of children, the burning of children?
Do you think those attacks were justified?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think they were not justified, But I also say
that Israel is just as unjust and its provocative behavior
that I think is designed to annihilate Muslims and work
for the crusades. Going back to this a little royal family.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
A little more specific, they're my friend, k can you
show me what Israel has done that would even remotely
compare to that?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, besides the genocide and the holocaust that they have
just committed of thirty eight ninety forty thousand people's lives
for harboring terrorists basically and depriving them of recovery and
all that, and trying to run them out and turn
it into a casino for Trump. Okay, so than that,
now they have taken over. They have. They have taken
(07:25):
over on media. Yeah, yes they have. That's why you
don't hear any DISSENTTV ME hold on, Steve.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
At this point, we're either into your pulling our leg
or this is Looney Tunes stuff. So what I what
I really want to understand, is where this level of
hatred and animosity comes from.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Because you made it.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'll tell you, I'll tell you. And I like the Jews,
I used to like Israel, never raised prejudice. But if
you go to Lenin murder truth dot com and when
you see a photograph of even King getting John Lennon's
last autograph, and you find out that is really the
ones covering it up, and they did it so they
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could bomb Saddam Husseins their fability without Lenin is the master.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Don't take this prejudice, don't take this the wrong way.
All I can do is pray for you, and I will,
I will, and thank you for calling the show.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
We all know that there one is too many, but
there are way too many Jew haters out there, and
and there are way too many people who would celebrate
seeing another Holocaust. I'm not saying Steve is one of
those I don't know. I'm not saying he is, but
but there are way too many of those people. And
the fact that this nation, this small nation, geographically small
(08:41):
nation population wise, has been able to survive and thrive
and achieve the accomplishments they have military, domestic, economic, technological,
and has been able to now take on this evil
regime with great success.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's it's biblical right.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And I say that is a completely devoted, committed Catholic Christian.
But there's one of the slanders that Steve offered that
is just a great way to put a bow on this.
And then everybody else, thank you for your patients.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'll get you.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
At the start of the segment when Steve talked about
this unholy alliance between the US and Israel, and he
has it exactly backwards. It's a very holy alliance because
part of the tremendous support of the US, and unfortunately
the Modern Democratic Party's breaking with this and paying the
price for it, but part of the tremendous support and
(09:36):
well deserved of our ally Israel by the US has
come from the fact that the US is a majority
Christian country, and Christians, I think have a proper reverence
for the Holy Land and for Jews is our big
brothers and sisters in the faith. And obviously, I and
(09:56):
all Christians believe by definition that She's is Christ is divine,
and that is that is the simple truth, and that
is why we are Christians. But we understand that the
holiness of the Holy Land and the Jews is God's
chosen people, and the Jews is are big brothers and
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sisters in the faith. And this commitment that they not
be annihilated and that we do everything we can to
help protect them runs deep in this country, and that
is a very good thing.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You're on the Dankaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I love the song, but why here?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Come on?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Dan? You read the Dan post by Trump? Nobody does
it better than the US.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Oh can't you read it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I read a bunch of posts forgive me, but my
focus has been on the post that says unconditional surrender
exclamation point ks you want the president has put the
flag in the ground. That is what's going to happen.
And now the question is how and how quickly?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, and you're asking me, do you want?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Never surrendered?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
By Corey Hart or Surrender by Cheap Trick.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
But you got to post a Springsteen just because he's
a lefty falling down Kelly talk to it.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
I put him up to playing Carly sinon she He
really did say, nobody does it better. And I'm I
was here, he he because he cues his stupid music
and I'm sitting here trying to sing and get into
a rhythm and he just keeps, you know, cutting and
trying to cue it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I gotta trust you, nobody has ever done music better
on radio than Ryan does on talk shows. But I
do have to tell you, guys as I go back
to our jam lines and text, because we are living
through this very historic moment together. You know me, I'm
an early morning guy, right, and so I'm kind of
like out on my feet today because I'm used to
(11:54):
in these trial modes, getting very very little sleep each
night and doing fine with it. So last night I
made the mistake of getting a full night's sleep. Oh
and so now what Today's a tough day. Yeah, But
so I get up. I get up about one thirty
in the morning, maybe two, and then I wake up
to this Google alert.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, says Google alert.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Dame capitalists, and I look at it and it says
John Caldera fills in and declares it no capitalist thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
That had to be a great show. He did do that,
it had to be.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
There was a little bit of animosity teached me to
miss it. Well, there's that he was having fun with it,
of course.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But yeah, no, no, I love Johnny, No, even if
he doesn't love me, I did john Just.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
One point of order.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
In the illegal parlance of our time, the Bruce Springsteen
song is called no Surrender.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh really, no, no retreat, no surrender.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, all right, alrighty, let's go to the phone lines. Hey,
if you just joined us that, I think the big
headline of the day can be summed up this way.
President Trump has made it clear the Iranian regime is
going to fall. He's put the flag in the ground,
and you don't complete surrender. That that is what he's
demanding at this point. And he knows at this point
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that his own credibility effectiveness is at stake worldwide. So
I don't think he posts that unconditional surrender verbatim unless
he is certain it's going to happen. So that's kind
of the backdrop for everything we talk about today. Lines
of jam Let's start in Oervada. We'll talk to Dean.
You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Welcome, Hey Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I really don't think that Iran will surrender. I think
they would rather die than you know, NYE on the sword,
than say, USA wins. So I think this is going
to go down to the bunker busters and destroying their
nuclear stockpile and then you know, they get overthrown by
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the UH because eventually they're gonna he'll either die in
the bombing, the leader or somebody will take him out.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But I think they got to have a new regime.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
And that's my opinion.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I appreciate the call, and obviously that that is the
most certain and effective way to defanin Iran's nuclear technology
is to have regime change, and clearly that's part of
the overall strategy, right. I mean, the President and Prime
Minister net Yaou have been open about that. And when
the President posts today unconditional surrender exclamation mark, I think
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he is sending a message to the good people of
Iran that this is the time, and obviously people of
Iran are more likely to take that big leap and
attempt to overthrow the regime starting with you know, the
revolutionary guard in the streets if they know that they
have the support of the American president. I remember doing
(14:48):
a show for Montana is up there in a case,
and you had people in the streets and large numbers
in Iran saying, Obama, help us, Obama help us. It
was Arab Spring and Obama chose the Iyatolas. Trump is
not too the Iatolas, and he's made that clear to
the people. Let's go back down to beautiful Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Talk to Warren. You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Welcome, Hey Dan, good to talk to you, just to
talk to you. Yeah, and I agree with you one
hundred percent about Biden and the border and also by Iran.
What you're talking about Iran, But I don't just call
it evil. It has a lot to do with Islam.
And I'll explain what I'm talking about. Are you familiar
(15:27):
with the duality of Islam?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Well, hey, Warten, let me just interupterence segment because I
got about thirty five forty seconds left in this segment.
I don't think this has anything to do with Islam
the way that faith is practiced by most people. I
think you have these these Ayatolas who have these radical
Islamist views where where they believe or claim to believe.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
That they have to kill all Jews.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Hey, I can hang on for forty seconds, Jim and
mixed section because the duelism explains what you're just trying
to figure out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And warn You're welcome, hang on and welcome to make
a point. Here's my challenge today. Okay, we're covering a
fast moving war and so I'm trying to stay focused
on the military aspects.
Speaker 8 (16:11):
I just hope that works out for the best. Yeah,
they get rid of that regime. I hope it doesn't
get blowing out deal where they shut down the oil
tankers and the presure oil goes up and after that.
Crazy to do that, but they're able to take themselves
out anyway because that's what they believe. They believe it
them the rule's proven that over and over again. To
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die and see the loss of the faith, that's what.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
They're going to do.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, appreciate the call.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It'll be interesting to see because so many of these
people right who get others to go out and martyr
themselves don't seem anxious to murder themselves personally. By the way,
Israel says it killed a run senior most military official,
and this senior most military official, run senior most military
(16:58):
official now killed by Israel has been in the job
for how many days, Ryan after Israel killed his predecessor? Day? Yes, yeah, yeah,
actually five, So this one lasted five days. But this
is the top military commander in Iran has now been
(17:19):
killed five days after he assumed that position from his predecessor,
who was also killed by Israel.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Question real quick, why do you think they've left the
Ayatola alive?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I believe Trump when he said that that he has
come out strongly against killing the Iotola, and I think
I think that's part of an overall plan by Trump
that I think is a very very wise plan. I
think Trump assumes at this point the regime is going
to fall, and he's just looking ahead to what comes
(17:54):
next and what may help facilitate that being the best
possible version and of what comes next year.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
On The Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Show, you're listening to The Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Obviously we're living through history together here. I think it
will end up being one of the top five most
important events of our lifetimes in terms of world impact,
and I think the world impact is going to be
phenomenally great. But I understand the reality there's likely to
be much more pain before this evil regime falls, because
(18:28):
evil's evil by nature, right, and historically it does not
expire without inflicting an awful lot of pain on an
awful lot of innocent people. So some tough times ahead,
but I think it's going to be a much better
world as soon as this regime's gone. The President today,
if you're just getting off work, is committed to the
(18:48):
unconditional surrender of the Iranian regime, and so his very
firm position I think makes it much more likely that
that is actually going to happen. I want to get
to some sound and text as well. Here's that Tucker
Carlson with an opposing point of view. I support the
approach the President's taken.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
He does not.
Speaker 10 (19:09):
I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my
country's going to be further weakened by this. I think
we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously,
other nations would like to see that, and this is
a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the
shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end I believe,
Trump's presidency and effectively end it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And so that's why I'm saying, what do you mean
by that's that's coming for you? That's you get.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Look, I knew Bush. I knew George W. Bush with
you know, family connection with Smush. I knew Bush personally.
I still see Bush sometimes and you know, of course
he hates me, and he does because I criticized him
on Iraq and that war is the sum total from
historical perspective of his administration.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And listen, on something this important, I do think it's
even more important that we hear opposing voices. And you
may oppose Trump's position on this, but that we hear
opposing voices and hear them out because this is so
large and the stakes are so large, and war by
nature is such a large, you know, moral decision to make.
(20:20):
And so I want to hear more from Tucker Carlson,
even though I don't agree with what he said so far,
and I don't even begin to understand his reasoning there.
I don't think there'd be any reason for any thinking
person to expect that this, this this war against the
Iranian regime is going to turn into large scale boots
on the ground, Israeli boots or American boots or any
(20:42):
other boots. I don't support any American boots on the
ground in Iran. I don't think that's necessary. I think
the question is whether the participation of American pilots is necessary.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I hope it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I hope that American munitions equipment, et cetera will be enough.
But yeah, I don't know why Tucker would think there'd
be a comparison here to the war in I Rock,
where it was obviously the large scale ground effort that
ended up causing so much misery and death and trouble.
(21:12):
And by the way, as we get back to phone
lines and calls, I will be just as one guy.
I will be forever grateful to all the men and
women who who fought and died, all the men and
women who sacrificed to all their families that our family
gets to live now in a world without Saddam Hussein
and his henchmen.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And I'll forever be grateful for that. Whether that was
worth it, I think can only be decided by the
people who made the sacrifice. I think people like me
can just be grateful, and I think we will all
be grateful to Israel, and we'll all be grateful to
anybody else who now contributes to taking out this evil
Iranian regime. ALRIGHTI let's get back to Let's get back
(21:55):
to the sound in the text, really a great text
to kick this off.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
And so you've said.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Over and over that Trump is the most anti war
president ever, yet here we are dragging US soldiers into it. Respectfully, Texture,
I think you have it backwards.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He is.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think he's the most anti war president we've had
in my short lifetime, and he's been extraordinarily effective at it.
And he's being effective right now because that the best
way to have peace is to prove that you are ready,
willing and able to fight and win a war. That's
the best way to get peace. I wish evil didn't
(22:33):
exist in the world. I wish it didn't gain power
in the world. I wish you didn't have evil people
like Putin and g and Kim Jong un and the
Ayatolas who were running entire nation states.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I wish that didn't exist. But as long as it exists.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
The only way to be anti war is to prove
you're ready to win it, and that's what Trump's doing.
And the beauty of this right now is that we
are about to see this victory in Iran. And there
hasn't been a single US troop in harm's way, meaning
over country at this point. Obviously, everybody at our bases
(23:09):
in the regions in danger. But yeah, and now it
may come to pass. I wouldn't be shocked. I don't
think you would be if all of a sudden President
Trump added some air power, air support, particularly since if
the experts on TV are right, and I can't know
if they are or not. I don't have classified access.
But Natan's Florida, it may very well take, particularly at Florida,
(23:32):
which is about one hundred miles from Tehran, you know,
about the same distance as vailed to Denver. It may
very well take you know, US bombers, bunker busters, etc.
To get into that deep, deep mountain, you know, refinement
facility at FORDA. Maybe it does, and maybe that's what
it comes to. Three h three someone three eight two
(23:54):
five five the number text d A N five seven
seven three nine. Would you support that or would you
oppose that. How about you, Ryan, if it came to that,
would you support US air support?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
I talked about this earlier on my program, which precedes yours.
Is called the dan Caplis pregame Show, is what I
like to refer to it as.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
But come, I'm never invited. Well, you're always invited your invitation, right, Yes, you've.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Got an open invitation. You do, like everybody to your wedding, right,
Minimal risk for American casualties. Air support only a very
thoroughly and clearly defined mission and plan, execute it, get out,
And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yes, Well, you can be sure of one thing, right
that the warriors in the United States military are probably
chomping at the bit to be part of taking down
this evil regime.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, it was interesting.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
A listener brought up have you seen Top Gun Maverick
the sequel?
Speaker 9 (24:54):
Yet?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
How many times?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Good? Well, the whole plot of that don't identify the
nemesis that we're fighting against. But the mission very difficult,
and I think there's some similarities there about taking this out.
It's got to be a precise shot. I think we
have both the intel and the capability, and again, if
this is to do it once and for all, like
I said, quick strike, you're in, You're out, it's over.
(25:19):
I support that, but not to get dragged down like
some people are insinuating. Kelly and I are getting very
frustrated back here, very text like all American boots on
the ground, We're gonna get this slog, this quagmire, and
in Iran it's to your earlier point, this is Apple's
and Oranges comparison to Iraq, and it should be and
we shouldn't put boots.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
On the ground in iron.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, And I would love and I'll look, and if
you'd look, I would love to find some informed commentator
out there who believes there's a scenario where this would
lead to something similar to the Iraq war. I just
don't see any scenario here where that happens. And that's
why I don't understand Tucker Carlson's comparison and line of
(25:56):
attack here. But those who disagree would love to hear
from you. Dan Trump wants aron Ziyahtola live, so he
has to publicly sign the declaration of complete thurrender as
the word watches. Yeah, that ain't happen, and that is
not happening, and and no, I think right now President
Trump is very wisely looking around three or four corners
(26:20):
toward what happens the morning after. And we'll devote a
lot of the show to this tomorrow, what happens in
Iran after this.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Evil regime falls.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And so I think that that President coming out today
and say an unconditional surrender exclamation point is designed in
part to try to encourage the people inside Iron to
overthrow the regime right now, while the regime is so vulnerable.
I think Trump publicly saying that he has opposed taking
(26:49):
out the Ayatola, I think he has an eye on
what comes next, because within Iran there is some support
obviously for this evil regime. And I think think President
Trump and his team are probably wanting and as they should,
the most cohesive Iran as a nation stake possible after
(27:10):
this regime falls. Obviously wants a free Iran and hopefully
one that inches or leaps and bounds closer to democracy.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But you you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Don't want to run torn by internal strife after this
regime falls, as and if the Ayatola is targeted and
taken out, it might be harder to put a run
completely back together. Obviously you'd have many their celebrated. But
I think Trump is wisely looking toward a stable around
the day after. Is the day after going to come Friday?
(27:41):
Is it going to come two months from Friday? None
of us can know, but I think we can be
confident it's coming. Hey, get back to the phone lines
and text. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, the president demanding unconditional surrenders.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So at this.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Point you have to expect there will be regime change
because look at President Trump and is kind of historic
effectiveness and success has been based at the core on
peace through strength, on you know, there's this proper perception
of the president is very strong and if you mess
with him, you're going to pay a price. And that has,
(28:22):
you know, led to him be in a very effective
peacemaker worldwide. And at this point he knows he's brilliant.
He can't come out and declare publicly that the regime
must fall and then have anything short of that happen, right,
or he loses his effectiveness, particularly against a backdrop where
(28:43):
for the first time he's been publicly defied. You know,
both Putin and Zelenski defying him to varying degrees, and
so there's no doubt in my mind that's front and
center in his mind as he takes this position with
regard to Irun And what that tells me, and right,
I don't have access to the information, the classified information,
(29:03):
What that tells me is the president is certain that
this Iranian regime is going to fall, and that he
wants the fall of that regime to now boost his
effectiveness as a world peacemaker, you know, and he wants
to be part of that success. And he's now committed
to doing whatever it takes. I think he's committed to
(29:23):
doing whatever it takes to make sure that regime falls.
So I think he has an eye on the war
in Ukraine as he does this. I think he has
an eye on China and North Korea and every other
hot spot in the world as he does this. It's
one of the reasons I'm so optimistic that this regime
(29:43):
will now fall. Joe and Arvada, you're on the damn
CAPLIS show.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Welcome.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
First, I want to say, God, let's ryan to plan.
That's becoing message to my youth.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Okay, thank You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, nobody, nobody better at that than right Ryan, What
is this single single best bump you've ever played?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
I don't know, man, and can't sit on his own jury,
right the ones that made me?
Speaker 9 (30:12):
Did you ever spend summers at pent Water?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I sure did.
Speaker 9 (30:15):
That's a beautiful are Oh so I had, we we
all had modified jeeps, this and that, and long story short,
The last trip I was there was the last run
of my teep, but Buddy might bought it and it
ended up upside down. But that's that's past. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(30:36):
full rocage at any rate. I wanted to point out
and Kelly, I spoke to Kelly. I guess Kelly's dad
was involved with the development of the B two bomber.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Wow, that's true.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
So what I wanted to point out is because yeah,
these uh nuclear things, they need to be taken out,
and I'm pretty sure that only the US can do.
And there are two aircraft that can deliver those bunker
busters thousand the air winger in the minicls, and that's
the B two and the thirty five. And as I
(31:13):
understand it now, we have air superiority meaning all their
triple A, any aircraft, artillery are wiped out. So yeah,
we need to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Go over there, identify those tibets.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
And take them out, take them out, you know, because
it's not just I mean, my goodness, if I ran
were to get a nuclear weapons oh yeah, yeah, well
they sell it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Joe appreciate the call. No, but but this is exhibit A, right, yeah,
and so many others. This is why Iron cannot have anue.
There's no doubt they would take out Israel. But the
whole world's going to be better off. So let's say prayer,
Let's say we we know it's there's going to be
a lot more pain evil Just that's how evil dies, right,
it goes down fighting and and inflicting as much pain
(31:58):
on innocent people as it can. And that's been the
history of this evil regime. And so yeah, let's hope
it happens sooner than later. And I think it's gonna
happen within a window here, right, what would you guess, Ryan,
I mean, none of us can know. But but with
the President's declaration today, and you cannot allow this regime
to survive at this point, because if the regime survives this,
(32:19):
they come back stronger than ever.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And then you don't as that regime, then it's not
a matter of Okay, they've got to rebuild the tons
and then they've got to enrich and all this, and
that they're gonna be importing nukes at that point. If
that regime can survive this, you're gonna have China feeding them.
You're gonna have Russia feeding them. It's no, it can't happen,
and it won't happen.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
But that's why that word is so key and that
we've been keying in on with the music. Coming back
is unconditional surrender. Surrender meaning you're done, buddy, Yeah, your
chance negotiate. I'm done with negotiating, and we're gonna it's
gonna end, and it's either gonna end on our terms or.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, well, well I think what he said is it's
going to end on our term, right, And it's just
a matter of how how hard it's going to be
between now and then, Dan and Ryan. Instead of boots
on the ground, about boots in the air F thirty
five eight pilots also wear boots.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
That from Andy and a very good point and a
good point to show us.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
The exile offered the Ayatola in Qatar. That's a condition
of surrender, and he leaves and it's over. How about that.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
The only thing that would surprise me there is if
Qatar took him.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I don't know they've been you know, they don't like
what we're doing here.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Considering here, you would not want that nation what it's
trying to do right now. And I'm an expert on
Qatar because I spent my anniversary in their airport one year,
right when our flight got to VERTI and I know
everything about that country. But you can be sure that
that's a brand they don't want, right, I mean, that
is a brand they don't want. Save harbor to leaders
(33:50):
of Hamas right, which is obviously beyond have scene. But
I do think they're trying to change that image and profile. Hey,
one of the things that's a.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Good lead to tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of course we'll have you up to the minute, but
one of the things we're going to talk about tomorrow
is what comes next, what comes next and around after
this regime falls, and what's that going to mean for
the world as we continue to follow obviously the ongoing war. Brian,
you're the best Kelly, thank you as always. Please join
(34:21):
us tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show
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