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December 11, 2025 35 mins
News breaks during the show that President Trump has issued imprisoned former Mesa County clerk Tina Peters a pardon, despite her being incarcerated for a state-level crime. Will Governor Polis agree to her release?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. What about this one?
This comes from the left. This comes from the Denver
Post and the editorial pages editor writing individually, and the

(00:25):
headline is, is Governor Jared Polis really a sleezebag or
does he just endorse sleezebags on social media?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ryan? Have you seen the story?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is not fascinating to me, absolutely fascinating to me.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
And so here's the gist of it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I want to try to cut it down a little
bit and then we'll take it from there. I'll get
you some quotes out of this story. But apparently, what
to Megan Surd's very upset about is that Polis took
to x and recommended that his followers follow up a
couple of other people. And I'll give you the exact

(01:03):
quotes out of there. But the editor of the editorial
pages at the Post not very happy with this recommendation.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
So I'll start here.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It says police could have highlighted any number of controversial
conservatives who are actually very thoughtful coloradens. But Police didn't
highlight the work of fiscal conservatives like Jake Fogelman and
Nash Herman, or even the Second Amendment advocacy of Dave Koppel.
He scraped the bottom of the barrel to encourage coloradens

(01:39):
to read the work of two men who often say
outlandish things to get attention and circle the drain of
white supremacy, misogyny, and even child pornography to be provocative.
Now as I get to these names, I don't know
who these guys are. Ryan, you probably do. I think
you're more dialed into those circles, meaning you the whole
social media thing. But the Meganstrader piece in the post

(02:02):
goes on to say Hannah Metzger from Westward did a
deep dive on the two men's work, and as I
casually proves both men's ex accounts, I found not a
single recent post worth of Police's fawning endorsement.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Quoting Polis recommend following public intellectuals at Richard H. N
Ania and at Captain Guda twenty four who are actual thinking,
who are doing actual thinking, which is rare these days.
Close quote. So that's all Polis saying that. Then it

(02:39):
goes on to say, both men, of course, use police's
ex posts to quickly endorse themselves and to grovel before
Polis is equally superior intellect. So no, Polis is not
a sleeze bag. He is actually a good man who
has done good for this state. But he certainly has
odd taste in social media hot takes. Consider Richard I'll

(03:00):
call them Anonia's obsession with trying to make Nick Quins
look mainstream. Then it goes into some examples there, and
then it goes on both Quentas and he are deliberately
muddy in the very clear waters on statutory rape. And
then it goes on from there. So anyway, why do

(03:21):
you think Polis did this? And are you familiar with
either of these two? No?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Not, she's so upset about not at all.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming that these are probably politically oriented.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
To the left, am I?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:35):
These are. I don't know either of these guys. I
don't either.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I think they're recognized as not being on the left. Now,
when you get people who claim to be on the
right saying things that no, decent person on the right
would agree with correct. I don't think it's fair to
call them from the right this Captain GOODA guy I
guess is Nicholas Decker. If you're listening right now and
you know who these guys are, please tell us. But

(03:59):
I guess they're identified with the right, and they've got
Megan Schrader, editor of the editorial pages, that the Denver
Post upset enough to write a headline. Is Governor Jared
Polis really a sleeze bag or does he just endorse
sleeze bags on social media? So why do you think,
assuming these guys are somehow identified on the.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right, why do you think he did that?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I don't know why he does a lot of the
things that he does, his creepy, weird, stupid videos that
he thinks are funny but always get ratioed into the sun,
meaning there are more comments on his posts on x
than there are retweets or likes.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
It's constant with that guy.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
He's just not a very likable, engaging person, although he
believes that he is.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I do think.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's polus again, just trying to kind of carve out
this this phony identity of being some kind of freethinker,
some kind of moderate different.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
From those other Democrats.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
He knows he's not going to be president, but he's
kind of landlocked in Colorado. The way Bennett has played this, Now,
if Bennett had resigned from the Senate, as he should
have to run for governor, then Polis would have had
that appointment. But Bennett is holding on to it because
if he should win, Bennett has said he wants to

(05:23):
appoint his own successor. So you can see the whole
royal attitude there, which is a little ironic coming from
a guy who's accomplished virtually nothing in all those years
in the Senate.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But put that aside for a second.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So assuming that Bennett is not going to appoint Polis,
and then Polis is term limited in the governor's office,
and then Hickenlooper is hoping he's about to win reelection
in this cycle, where does police go. He knows he's
not going to be elected president, but he wants to

(05:55):
get in that presidential race, maybe as dreams of becoming
vice president. I have dreams literally of quarterbacking the Broncos
Sunday against the Packers. I wouldn't recommend fitting me for
a Jersey right now, So where does he go?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Where does he go? Politically?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Regular pundit on a Fox News Sunday with Shannon Breem
and or Dana Brino.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
One problem with that, nobody would watch. I don't mean
that as a pejorative.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Listen, the guys accomplished some some really meaningful things in life.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean he's brought his way into these political races.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I don't think there's anybody out there who believes he
would have won that congressional seat in Boulder, or you
know that the governor's office, et cetera, without all that money.
But he did some good things in business too.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm not saying that the.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Guy's never done anything worthwhile, but come on, nobody is
going to tune into that show to watch Jared Polis.
Nobody cares right now? So where does he go?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Love?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Three or three seven two five five takes da n
five seven seven through nine years? The thought does he
take on whoever Bennett appoints to the Senate seat, which
I if Bennett is elected governor, I assume is going
to be Joe Negoose. I assume that's why no Goose
got onto the Bennett campaign so early, and would he
take on Joe Nogose Probably not. Yeah, So where does

(07:23):
police go? And that will be a big, big loss
for the Colorado Democratic Party if he is not involved
in electoral politics because of his money. When he's out
there in these other races and he's spend in twenty
five thirty million bucks maybe more, then you know, some
of that money really benefits other Democrat candidates, especially some

(07:44):
of that.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Money being poured into field work.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And the more people who then turn out for polists,
the more other Democrat votes are. So yeah, it I
think it'll be very helpful to Republicans to not have
him running for statewide office in Colorado. Hey, here's another
very very important story. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, and he
gets it. And I love what he's doing when it

(08:08):
comes to truckers because you know, I may have mentioned
that I've spent decades now representing people who are seriously
injured by truckers or you know, they're spouser child, others
killed by reckless truckers. And so one thing I've talked
about on air for years is that we've got this
industry that's vital to America.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's vital to everyday life.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
And the really good truckers they're American heroes because that's
a really hard job. And the ones who do it right,
and the companies who do it right, they're heroic. We
couldn't live without them. But a real big chunk of
that industry, and it's getting bigger every day, is just
in my constitutionally protected opinion, it's it's reckless, horrifically dangerous,

(08:53):
clear and present danger to you and your family. And
that percentage gets bigger all the time. And one enormous
systemic problem we've had, and under Biden it mushroomed, is
a whole lot of drivers out there who can't speak English.

(09:14):
And that's not a reflection on anybody's national origin. I'm
just talking about, how do you drive an eighty thousand
pound cruise missile through the Colorado Mountains if you can't
read the signs? How do you do that? If you
can't communicate? And I have had so many cases, so
many horrific truck crash cases where the truck driver could

(09:37):
not speak English, and I am convinced, I'm convinced it's
a tactic of some of these trucking companies, because I
watch the body cam, I see it, I hear it
all the time. You have a horrific truck wreck. Trooper
walks up to the side of the truck and then
the trucker says in Spanish, I can't speak English. Please
get me an interpreter. In my own belief is that

(10:00):
that is taught by some companies, not all, of course,
are some really good trucking companies, but it's taught by
some of the bad companies as a way to buy time,
as a way to buy time before the driver has
to speak with an officer. But the driver often gets
on the phone in the meantime with his bosses, has
that conversation before talking to the trooper because he told

(10:21):
the trooper and needs a translator. Yes, so this whole
business of drivers who can't speak English, and again it
is not a reflection on anybody's race or national origin
or anything else. But you cannot be driving a truck
on America's roadways if you can't read the signs, if
you can't understand English well enough to be functional out
there to interact with law enforcement. So anyway, this story

(10:44):
says that Sean Duffy talking about how the Trump administration
says it has pulled nearly ten thousand commercial truck drivers
off US roadways for failing to speak English sufficiently. That's
what I voted for. That's in part what I voted for.
That is a kind of action. Whether you're Democrat, Republican
and affiliated, you will be safer today. Your children, your wife,

(11:07):
or your husband, they will be safer today because Donald
Trump was elected because of stuff like that. You're on
the Dankapla Show.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Obviously, God really interesting if you ever get a chance
to follow this father Mike Schmidt, super cool, super smart,
super effective Catholic priest who I think they just hit
a billion downloads on his podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He was making the point.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
The other day and we had the privilege of spending
a couple of minutes around him when he was in
raising helping raise money for Seats of Hope in Colorado.
But he made the point that one big thing that's
changed in his work, because he does youth ministry on
college campuses, particularly up in Duluth, Minnesota, and then has
this huge worldwide following, said one big.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thing has changed is and tell me if you think
that's true.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Ryan, He was saying that, you know, probably five ten
years ago, maybe fifteen, a big question.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Among young people was does God exist?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
And he said now that that's almost never a question
for anybody.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
It's so obvious.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You don't get something from nothing, and just everything everybody
can see, science, everything else, that's.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Virtually a non issue anymore. So Yeah, it to me
that just.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Marks such tremendous progress and I think bodes very very
well for the future.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
And it I was going to say it leads us
into this, but it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
This is just it's a little interesting since I opened
the show by saying my belief is that Jared Polis
will commute the sentence of Tina Peters.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
But here is a President Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And thanks to Sheriff Reems for the heads up on
this just a few minutes ago. Now big question is
to whether this will have any legal effect. But President
Trump just pardoned Tana Peters, and then I'll get into
the legal analysis on how that, in theory could actually
help Tana Peters in the end. But obviously he's president

(13:18):
in the United States. President Trump can pardon people community sentences, etc.
In federal cases, but typically not state cases. I'll tell
you what the line of reasoning in the Peters camp
is in a second, but I wanted to read this
to you first. I'm not getting emotional. I've just got
the last hangover from this cold quoting the president directly.

(13:40):
For years, Democrats ignored violent and vicious crime of all shape, sizes, colors,
and types. Violent criminals who should have been locked up
were allowed to attack again. Democrats are also far too
happy to let in the worst from the worst countries
so they could rip off American taxpayers. Democrats only think
there's one crime, not voting for them. Instead of protect
the Americans and their tax dollars, Democrats chose instead to

(14:02):
prosecute anyone they can find that wanted safe and secure elections.
Democrats have been relentless in their targeting of Tina Peters,
a patriotor simply wanted to make sure that our elections
were fair and honest. Tina is sitting in a Colorado
prison for the quote crime of demanding honest elections. Today,
I'm granting Tina a full pardon for her attempts to

(14:24):
expose voter fraud and the rigged twenty twenty presidential election.
So I think those words at the end were carefully
chosen by the president and his team.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And don't I even't studied this. I've been and troll
myself in one of my cases.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But my understanding of the thrust of the legal argument
now from the Trump administration and Tina Peters and sure
try to get the federal court to look at it
right away, is that while Tina Peters, the argument will
be was convicted on a state charge, it's a state
charge pertaining to a federal activity, which is elections. And

(15:01):
that's why I think the reference there to exposing voter
fraud in the rig twenty twenty presidential election. And the
argument will be that a president can pardon somebody for
a criminal conviction that results from their activity pertaining to

(15:21):
a federal matter, and the argument will be this federal election,
So anyway that.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Pardon from the president.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of course, if Governor Polis was to commute the sentence
of Tina Peters, I'm not expecting he would give her
a full pardon, then that would be immediately effective. There's
no question that Poulis has the power to do that.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Here.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
If you're just joining us a quick version of why
I believe that's going to happen is at first, Polus
always does what's in Polis's best interest, right?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Can anybody think of any exception to that?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And as Polis now tries to carve out this phony
niche as some kind of moderates, some kind of independent thinker,
he needs some big actions.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
We just saw him get ripped in the post for
recommending that people follow a couple of quote conservatives, whether
they are or not an X And he needs something
dramatic to call attention to him and that he's somehow
different till the Fist Party, etc. Now that would be
the selfish reasoning. Also on top of that, President Trump

(16:33):
has made it clear he is going to punish Colorado
for not being willing to transfer Tina Peters to a
federal prison. And I think the investigation of the Colorado
State prison system that was just announced by the FEDS
is is going to be one.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Small piece of that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And obviously President Trump in a position to affect lots
of things economically in Colorado, starting with space Force, and
we've talked about that before. I think space Force should
be here. But you've got all these elected democrats going
out of their way to poke Trump.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
In the eye.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
How's that going to help us keep space force anyway?
And then beyond that, police knows that it's wrong. He
asked to anythinking person, ask to know that this sentence
is too long, particularly for a non violent offender, first offender,
senior citizen, gold star mom.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's just too long. And Polis has got to know that.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And then here's another biggie. Police knows that he did
wrong and he cannot justify it, and he's going to
get hammered on it if he tries to get in
a presidential race. For going out and subverting the jury,
subverting the judge that found that mass killing trucker guilty
of multiple counts of homicide. Judge sentenced him to one
hundred years in Democrat Jefferson County, and Polis stepped in

(17:55):
and again he undermined the judge, He undermined the jury,
and because Kim Kardashian whispered in his ear, he cut
that sentence down to ten years, which means the guy's
out in five. So, on the one hand, you have
this murderous trucker who knowingly and deliberately did all these
things that killed multiple people.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Burned them, alive.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
On the other hand, you have Tina Peters, who I
believe was properly charged and convicted, but didn't kill anybody,
didn't no lasting harm, and she's going to sit there
in prison all these years. Not. That's why I expect
Polis will at some point commune the sentence. Do you
think you should Hey, we'll come back to our callers.
Text zero three someone three eight two five five. You're

(18:34):
on the Dankapla show.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
You're listening to the dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Seattle's new mayor goes to a bigger point, but how depressing.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I believe we can have affordable and abundant housing, and
that we don't.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Have to have thousands of our neighbors sleeping on shelter
every night. I believe that you shouldn't need a six
figure income.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
You know, my bad?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
This cuts too long. The part I want to get
to is at the end, she says, I believe the
city should be your I believe families should live in
apartments and the city should be your living room and
the park your backyard. And what a sad image that is.
And it goes to the point I was making yesterday.

(19:26):
The Democrats are the Party of fighting for scraps. They
want people in that mentality of scarcity, of a zero
sum game, fighting for scraps. So you got to vote
for the Democrats, so the government make sure you get
your little scrap of the scraps, whereas as the Republican
Party is about grow the pie, let everybody prosper, They

(19:52):
let everybody reach their full potential.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You could not get a more dramatic contrast.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And as a guy who was a Democrat for many years,
I never would have believed that. But now I've had
a chance to see it from the outside and the inside,
and there is no question about it. That is what
this modern Democratic Party is all about. And it's sad,
and it's sick, and it's really a moral at a
core level, because the Democratic Party's existence depends on keeping

(20:19):
a lot of people down, including a lot of kids,
never reaching their full potential. Because once people start to
make sixty five grand or so, a majority vote Republican.
And so you just see the policies that flow from that.
Let's go to Denver, Colorado. We'll start with Randy. You're
on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome, oh Tim and Fort Collins.
That's now I've got to tell you I do know

(20:39):
how to read. Ryan.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Can you report that I am accurately reading the screen?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, we're still having the Gremlins.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
The Gremlins, Yes, Tim and Fork Collins. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Oh thanks Dan, good to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You too.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm the guy that watched the planned parenthead thing.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Oh the naked people.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
But anyway, you know you're talking about Poulis. I was wondering,
is anything out on whether he's going to do anything
to commemorate the big Thompson flood.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Boy, I haven't heard of darn sing. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Uh, if he wants my vote, well, if not that
I would give his book because I don't think my
story would be good enough for him. But honestly, yeah,
I am.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
And so you're never going to vote for Polis.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I'd never vote for him because of pro life.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You can't vote for police.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
And I've also talked to you about uh being a
survivor of sexual abuse. I'm also a survivor of flood.
So I'm writing about my recovery.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Oh man, Hey, Rindy, can ask you a question only
because as you know, we're stuck with this tough clock
and Talk radio a lot of people listening weren't here
for the big Thompson flood. If I remember, wasn't it
nineteen seventy five?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Maybe, but July July thirty first, nineteen seventy six, nine pm.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hey, tell us what happened to you if you can quickly,
because we're on this stupid clock.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Well, basically, my family went up for the week for
the day to Estes, and then we came back. I
heard on the news there is going to be this rainstorm,
and I thought, oh, I got to save my girlfriend.
She is at Grandpa's retreat. Her name was Kim Horton,
and I wanted to get off. Traffic got down to

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like five miles an hour and I almost jumped out
of the suburban did making My dad punched it. He
took me further downriver, intimidated me to go into the river.
The fish I made like treat cast caught a fish
patrolling me comes by, it tells us to get out.
We go hauling out and we passed party at the

(23:04):
Big Bend, just upstream of the Indian Trading Post, which
is now gone. And the next day I went up
with some friends. We got as far as Fort Medina,
which is that picket fort just on the west side
of Devil's backbone, and watched them dig my girlfriend out

(23:25):
from side of the road. And so I suffered amnesia
from nineteen seventy six to twenty thirteen. That's when I
started to remember things and so plus I had to
deal with that awful experience being especially abused. So I'm

(23:50):
writing about that because the only clues I've ever had
was about my dreams and my nightmares. These things screwed
up my whole life, my military career where you serve,
I was in the Wyoming Air National Guard.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I'd like to think seven years thank you.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
When I heard about the guardsman shot in DC, that
really upset me. Yeah, and because they're like brothers to me. Yeah,
we're there to protect our country.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, Randy, what I'd like to do is, when you
finish your book, please let me know. I'd love to
read it, maybe get you on to talk about it
a little bit. And yeah, the thank you for us
sharing all of that. The human mind.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Ryan.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's interesting because in in you know, my law practice, from.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Dealing with with all these catastrophic horrors, I've I've learned
quite a bit about PTSD and had the benefit of
working with a lot of top national PTSD experts, and
I've just learned that, like in Randy's case, there are
certain things the human brain is not just designed to
be able a handle, and and that you get a

(25:02):
chemical change in the brain when when people are experienced
exposed to certain types of very severe traumatic experiences and
there's actually a chemical change there. A layman's view might
be kind of a branding. It's and it's a combination
of the physical change and damage and then the emotional psychological.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Piece as well.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
But yeah, certain things I think we're just not meant
to see, but you end up seeing three O three
seOne three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Who else do we have?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Ross Brian's not getting the Fraser reference there because our
computer has taken the day off, maybe the year of
So we'll do it the old fashioned way.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Here a lot of Texters coming in today.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Oh lordy, Dan, the question does God exist as a
sixty five year old proud ultiboy. It's Paul's in Colorado Springs.
What a great church that is a hunter months senior
hearing and he lives God bless but by the way
if you just joined us that that reference is to
something really interesting, Father Mike Schmidt said, which is that
his experience, and he does this all over the world.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know with young people in faith, is that there's
been this.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Dramatic shift in the last i'll call it ten or
fifteen years, where there used to be kind of this,
you know, big question does God exist? And now you
know he almost never hears that. It's just people just
know they see they say science everything else, something doesn't
come from nothing, and that that that's an almost irrelevant
issue now among kids.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Stephen, you're on the Dan Kapla. She'll welcome. I'm guessing
I could well. Would you like to be called Stephen?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Now? This is David.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Hey, David, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Hey Dan, thanks taking the call. I'm hearing you're talking
a little bit about old Bennett and poll Us and
I was just wanting to talk a little bit about
the Democrats. I sent you a text, but unfortunately you
find it too long. Yeah, trying to give you enough
enough facts. Yeah, and I did you see or have
you seen Secretary Griswold's commercials she's running on TV right now.

(27:25):
It doesn't say a word. It just says that she's
doing good stuff and just and puts her phone number
on the screen. It do's not I thought twice, and
I was like, she thinks she's running for ag.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Does she explain the benefit of having all those passwords exposed?

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Always she didn't go anywhere that she was she does.
I share that with you because I was frustrated because
our whole election process and seen of Peters, which I
appreciate you talking about her situation, But actually I've located
really good article in the Rocky Mountain Voice, Secretary Griswold's

(28:04):
reckless assault on election integrity, written by an Air Force
veteran as a guest contributor. I suggest take them a
look at it, because it talks about all the reasons
why she should release all that information to the DOJ
for the request talking about the safe program, talking about
I think it's navra Vaar talking about what is it

(28:27):
tahava Local America voat Act of two thousand and two
in the nineteen sixty civil rights and she had no
right to do what she's doing. I called the office
today and they told me that she turned to Protection
Insta of Information and well, you know, the government has
a security and department, Homeland Security. They have all the

(28:47):
sensitive information. Yeah, the young way, the young lady went
on to tell me Dan that I don't pay for it. It
comes from fines and fees, and I said, well.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
These those are Hey, Randy, you're welcome to hold through
a break if you're if you'd like, I've got to
hit this hard.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I've got to hit gotta hit this hard break here.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
But but yeah, the the irony here, obviously is when
you talk about Jenna Griswold. Nobody in the history of
this state has done more to undermined confidence in our
elections than the hyper partisan approach of Jenna Griswold. I
do believe our elections overall are safe and fair, zero

(29:31):
tolerance for fraud, but overall are but she has so
undermined confidence in the elections by choosing to be so
hyper partisan. Really, I mean, what reasonable person would would
just trust Jenna Griswold alone.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
And now back to the Dankaplass Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's a little depressing.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
One headlight by Jacob Dylan, Bob Dylan's.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Son doesn't make it less depressing that that explains his text,
and the show gets more depressing every day.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Can you change? Obviously it does not. I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
It's just somebody wanted their text read, which I have
to respect, and I was not going to read until
I heard that song.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's why you read the exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Well, I'm depressed back here with the technology failures that
we're having.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You've got lots of reasons not to be depressed. You're right,
When are you going to share those? I can't do
that yet?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
All right, all right, our great Texters. Dan Polis has
to move to the middle. In preparation for his Senate appointment.
We were talking earlier about the Denver Post hammering or
the editorial pages editor hammering Polis for recommending his followers
follow a couple of quote conservatives, whether they are or not, but.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
In preparation for a senate appointment. So this text, are
believing that.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
What that Bennett is going to appoint police to Bennett's
Senate seat. If underlying if Bennett wins the governor's race,
hard for me to see. But that gets to another text, Dan,
why do you say Bennett would not appoint police? What
a great question. And if you think I'm wrong. Please,

(31:15):
I'd love to hear from you. Three oh three someone
three eight two five five text d A N five
seven seventh three night.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Maybe maybe you're right and I'm wrong. But can you
can you imagine if.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Michael Bennett appointed Jared Polis, you would have to have
an outright revolution in the Democratic Party because look at
what you've had. All these phonies, right, they pretend to
be about dei and opportunity, and they're holier than now.
And you've got this circle of boring, old white guys
who freeze out the young, they freeze out the people

(31:50):
of color. They dominate these big state wide offices. I mean,
who holds the big offices police Bennett, Hick, Looper, Mike Johnston. Yeah,
there's your rainbow for you. Right there, there's the rainbow
poalition Polis, Bennett, Johnston, Hick and Looper.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
There are more shades of white there than I have
ever seen in my life.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
They're all whiter than you and my lord.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So there's such phonies, and then you have all the
youth and listen, they're wrong ideologically, but you've got some young,
talented people in the Democratic Party and they're just being
pushed back down the hill, roll back down the hill
by these boring old white guys who aren't getting anything, don't,
thank God, since they're crazy lefties.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
No fact I do. No.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't think many people would guess this if they
were to look at the two of us side by side.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
I'm older than Jared Polis.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Really yeah, so much?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
You, I think so by about a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
I think what would explain that?

Speaker 3 (32:53):
I don't know, because he's had a pretty easy life
and I really have.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Not I think may explain it? Maybe yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Good times make soft people. Yep, hard times make strong people,
yes they do. But anyway, so can you imagine you
got this one boring old white guy, Bennett appointing this
other boring old white guy to now be the next senator?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
What would happen within the Democratic Party? Now?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Maybe these guys are so arrogant and elitist and everything
else they just don't care. Maybe that does end up happening,
because otherwise where does police go?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
But here's what I believe, and I can't prove it.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I don't have subpoena power, but I believe that there
is a deal. Now, whether it's express or implied, But
there is an understanding that if Michael Bennett becomes governor,
he's going to appoint Joe no Goose because no Goose
got onto Bennett's campaign right out of the gate, and
the Goose was he was the big catch, because you

(34:05):
know joanah Goose, he's a young, sharp Democrat star who
also happens to be a man of color, but by
all account, even though he's wrong ideologically on most things,
a man of great intelligence and merit. He was the
big get and he gets on the Bennett train right away.
Why would anybody get on the Bennet train. Who has

(34:26):
ever done less with more in elective office than Michael Bennett?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
No one, So why would he get on the Bennett train.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I think he got on the Bennet train because he
expects to get that Senate appointment and if Jared Poulis
was to get it ahead of Joan of Goose, yeah,
so that's why I do not expect Polis will get
it if Bennett becomes governor. So we'll get into that
more detail the moment. Ryan, thank you, my friend, for
your heroic work. As always, everybody to please to be

(34:58):
safe tonight and join is tomorrow at four on The
Dan Caplis Show.
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