October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) joins Dan to update on the ongoing government shutdown in Washington, D.C. and why Democrats continue to hold out on passing a continuing resolution for federal spending - one which is identical to the last CR passed through both houses of Congress..
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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time to do that. Glad you're here. Hope you had
a great weekend. How could you not after that Bronco win,
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even if you don't like football, that was a great
sign of things to come. But no surprise to you
or to me if you listen to this show. We've
expected great teams from the things from that team this year,
and looks like that's going to be delivered. Even with
those couple of kind of fluke losses. You just knew
that that was a good club. Three all three seven
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one three eight two five five The number text d
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be the last football we talked today. But personally, I'd
rather see a big win like that come the way
it came, right where you're down seventeen to three and
you're coming in the fourth quarter, and in Bronco history,
when you've trailed by that much on the road going
into the fourth quarter, you've won one game out of
one hundred and fifty two. I think it is, yeah,
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because I think you get that added character element there
as part of that W So yeah, just made it
very special. So glad you're here. Lots to talk about. Wow,
this business we're starting to see in certain cities across
the country. I want to touch on that and on
what's going to come next from President Trump? Is he
going to invoke the Insurrection Act in a place like Chicago,
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for example, where it's become quite the thing now to
openly interfere with ICE arrests and put these ICE agents
in very very dangerous situations. What will President Trump do
in response to that? It's and what do you want
to see him do in response to that? We'll kick
that around a little bit serious business, and my guess
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is that President Trump will not do nothing. Bold prediction
of the day. I do want to start close to home, though,
and talk about the sixteen Street mall reopening after this
one hundred and seventy five million dollars makeover. And that's
an awful lot of lipstick for a pig, and it
you know, it's still a pig, and that's not meant
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in any kind of pejorative way at all. But when
you look at the Sixteenth Street mall, you've just got
to face the reality. You've just got to face the
reality starting with where it is. And so it could
have been a billion dollar makeover. It wouldn't matter until
they change some things that are wrong with Denver structurally,
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it's not going to work. But hey, we don't curse
the darkness around here. We light a candle. So I've
been taking all weekend about, Okay, what could be done
to make the sixteenth Street mall. I guess we can't
say mall anymore now, Ryan, right, They paid one hundred
grand to drop the word mall is the one word, yeah,
which is pretty good. Twenty five grand a letter. Good
work if you can get it. But but the good
news is that if I'm right here, what it would take,
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what it would take to actually make sixteen Street work again,
would make the whole city work great. That's the good news.
The bad news is as long as left deser in control,
they're never going to do it. So do want to
get your suggestions, especially if you disagree, no matter where
you are in the state, because this you know what
happens in Denver doesn't stay in Denver, especially when it's bad.
And if you're listening to the show in Colorado, we
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all have a vested interest in a successful Denver and
in a successful Sixteenth Street. We all have a vested interest.
And then we all have a vested interest in it
not continuing to decay. So yeah, we're all Colorados if
you happen to be, and if you're not a Colorado,
you're an American. We're all Americans. So we want this
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major city to succeed. What will it take for Sixteenth
Street to succeed again? And I've got receipts, I've got
concrete suggestions three or three seven, one, three eight, two
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I also want to play this Kusa piece because it
was very honest and it was very well done, and
it was also very sad. So let me play it now.
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Did you happen to watch this? Ryan? I know you've
had a very busy day, and Ryan does this great
show two to four every day and six thirty kids
at w and Denver. Did you happen to watch this
piece while you were cutting it?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I did?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Did you have the same reaction. It was just kind
of sad.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
There was an undertone of sadness to the whole thing,
and I think the reporter for nine News contributes to
that but accurately.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right, So let me play it now, and what I
ask you to listen for see if you agree or not,
is this is the grand reopening, right, and so you're
sure the city's trying to just get everybody out there
it can to the mall for this grand reopening and KUSA,
which I think is generally very supportive of the Johnston administration.
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You know, they're not trying to make them look bad.
But most of the video is focused on this one
fair to describe him as old guy kind of dancing
by himself on the mall and then a handful of
strangers looking at him like what's he doing? So this
the grand reopening of the mall. Not exactly the image
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you're after, but hey, we're in the fix it business.
What do you do to fix sixteenth Street?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
On sixteenth Street in downtown Denver, signs of the past
still remain, but today the focus was on the future.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We're so thrilled to welcome Denver back.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Courtney Garrett in the downtown Denver Partnership through a party
to officially reopen a place that's now called.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sixteenth Street no mall.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, that word was dropped as part of a one
hundred and seventy five million dollar makeover to this pedestrian
accessible walkway or whatever you want to call it, which
now has new pavers, wider sidewalks, and more places to sit,
play and dance.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If somebody comes up on d w me have billings.
Thanks you Okay, I'm a good dancer.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jeff Peterson has been coming here for years and remembers
when the mall was a focal point to downtown.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Then COVID came and people left, turning this into a
place Jeff didn't want to visit. No, it could have
been a little bit better, Jack, Why we'll get it now.
It's beautiful. Today thousands of people returned to food, live music,
and plenty of dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's truly representing the future of Denver as a place
that is showcasing what is absolutely the best of.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Our whole city.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Courtney says success here won't be measured by today's party,
but by whether people like Jeff keep showing up tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
We know the community wants to be here in Denver.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It's a beautiful place now, Evan.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Krul nine News, I mean, god love, I'm sure he's
a wonderful guy, but I'm not sure that's the image
Denver was hoping to project there. But but Kusa, they're
just reporting honestly there. I mean, that's that's who showed up.
And I guess Ryan, they couldn't find an accordion and
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hokey pokey and whatever. I mean, well, he might have been.
Did the whole thing sound old old? Yeah, that's one
word for it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And it might have been, you know, the friendliest guy
they could find there that was having the most fun.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And he sounded, like you said, harmless.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes, their to day goodness. Yeah, sounds like a wonderful guy.
But then just the video, this one old guy dancing
by himself. Yeah, listen, it's not going to work. That
the mall is not going to work until they structurally
changed Denver. You know why, because you know where it's located.
It's located in Denver. That that's the you. I mean, really,
who other than people like live in the immediate area,
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who's going to go to sixteenth Street? And why? And
I don't wish them anything ill, but greatest respect you
can ever show anybody is to just tell the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, what really irked me Dan, and I think you
felt the same way was there was a woman from Arizona,
a flight attendant, who on her time off between flights,
went to sixteenth Street and was stabbed to death. And
then the mayor, Mike Johnston, had the audacity to hold
a press conference in which he said, don't look at that.
On the whole we're doing a lot better. And then
you had the Heckler walk by swear at.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It, and the performance by a signer.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The signer interpreted yeah, hero signer, but in a serious note,
the audacity of Mayor Johnston in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
She'd almost been decapitated feet away.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. Now, And that's why I say, because it's in Denver. Listen,
as we talk about all the time, there's some absolutely
wonderful parts of Denver. There are two Denvers. There's the gleaming,
prosperous part, which should be celebrated, and then there's the
other part where literally that the zip code you live
in in Denver determines whether you're going to spend ten
more years on this planet or not, meaning that life
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expectancy so much higher in the Gleaming zip codes than
the others. And so for sixteenth Street to work, you
need to attract a lot of people from outside Denver.
People from outside Denver aren't going there because the lefties
who run Denver are pro criminal, anti innocent victim, and
they're pro drugs and anti the people who don't want
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their kids around drugs legalized or not. You know, they're
pro attracting as many homeless people as they can to Colorado.
I mean that the amer comes out and says, we
will get you a home. Most people who would be
traveling into Denver, if they chose to do that, they're
not looking for that. And then they're pro inviting people
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who are coming to this country illegally from all over
the world to come to Denver. Most people from outside Denver,
when they're looking for places to go, are not looking
to go to a place that's bringing in as many
folks who are here illegally as possible. And it's nothing
racial about that, nothing at all. It's just when you
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put all that together, and you've got these lefties who
run Denver who are so soft on crime, which has
the effect of actually in encouraging crime, and they encourage
legal drugs, put the legal in quotes, and they create
this this mess downtown. Guess what, you can spend a
billion dollars. People aren't going down there till you change
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the bigger things that are wrong with Denver. You're on
the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, mister President, don't do it. Such a historically great
presidency what we've seen so far, and I expect even
more in the future. But I'm looking at the latest headline,
President Trump, I'd have to take a look at Pardon
for Galaine Maxwell. Now, first of all, take that headline
with more than a grain of salt, because it's off.
CNN can't believe for a second the president would seriously
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consider that, and he should not, in my humble opinion,
three or three seven one, three eight, two five five
the number text DN five seven seven three nine. And
obviously the only reason you'd ever consider it is if
she provided information that led to the successful prosecution of
lots of these other child rapists like Epstein was, and
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she was such an obvious facilitator, etc. All right, Glad
you're here. One of the things we're talking about. We'll
talk a little bit about there out the day because
I think it's so important, so interesting, is can anything
be done to save Sixteenth Street aka Sixteenth Street Mall.
We played the package beginning the show, you know, the
one hundred and seventy five million million rehab and the
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grand opening and all of that, and yeah, it's not
coming back until Denver fundamentally changes its approach to crime
and homelessness and illegal immigration. It's just not coming back.
People aren't going to go there. I think, Ryan, what's
your sense because you and I we both go to games,
right We go to ball for a lot of nuggets
and abs, We go to Coursefield for Rockies. To me,
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that's different than going to Denver. And I think there's
no hesitation right now in the part of people to
go to ball.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't think anybody thinks, oh, I'm going to be
going into some high crime area to ball arena. I
think it's just viewed as kind of a separate appendage
when you and part of it is the location right
right there. If I twenty five are area, et cetera,
you don't have to like go into Denver. Now, listen,
don't get me wrong. I go into Denver all the time,
and I like it, and I you know, I go
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to court there, I do other things. I'll be at
the Court of Appeals tomorrow morning. But there are a
lot of people that just won't go into Denver. And
if you're one of those people, love to hear from
me in your reason why three oh three seven one
three eight two five five text d A N five
seven seven.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Three nine, trying to compare it to the cities we
know U Chicago, Me, Detroit, and Detroit has been on
the upward ascent, I would say for some time now.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I'm creating what is called a stadium district.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So there's Ford Field, Comerica Park, Little seas Arena, all
the sports, Greek Town, which is a big tourist attraction,
the casinos, and it's been sprawling, in my opinion, in
a good way, so that there are areas you can
go in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I know this sounds like.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
A punchline and feel safe, I do the end. There
are areas of Denver where I feel far less safe
than I do at any point walking around Detroit. And
that is just a simple fact of the matter as
it stands right now, but it would be comparable. Let's
say sixteenth Street Mall to Woodward in Detroit for me,
maybe the mag Mile for you in Chicago, and that's
gotten a lot worse, Oh goodness, in Chicago. Yeah, but
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I go to, say the Paramount Theater, which is much
closer to where we are talking. There is a Giordano's
and I'm a big Chicago style pizza fan like you are,
and there's one of those by sixteenth Street Mall. But
there are pockets, and there are areas, and there is crime,
and there is open drug use and sale of that,
and we've heard about it from listeners too. That's just
not conducive to say, taking a family of four down there,
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It just isn't all right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And listen, if you want sixteenth Street to succeed, well,
and I understand they've got more visible police presence, et cetera. Hey,
let the men and women of DPD do their job
and fully staff them and give them the authority to
fully enforce the law. That'll be an enormous step toward
sixteenth Street eventually six eating again. But then, of course
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you have to change the underlying leftist policies and rule
and obviously state laws now that have been made to
favor the criminal. Yeah, all of that just leaves it.
Do OA just leave sixteenth Street doa until they make
major structural changes. Coursefield, though, is what I was driving at.
To me, Coursefield is more like going into the city,
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and we go in without hesitation. We enjoy our trips
to Coursefield. It's always a blast. It's a big reason
the Rockies continue to drop people right at such a
nice ballpark. My guess is, and I'd have no way
to prove it that that you do lose. They do
lose the Rockies. Some fans to the fact that it's
more like going in the city. And I don't know
if Johnston the Left that they know. I'm sure they
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don't even care about just how ferocious the attitude is
out there among so many people who just won't go
into Denver. And they can blame it on COVID for
the next three hundred years, right, rather than on their
own crazy policies. There are so many people who just
won't go in to Denver. Three h three seven one
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three eight two five five the number. If you disagree
with me on any of this, please call, We'll send
the limo, at least metaphorically. Dan, you're such a Debbie Downer.
First day of trying to turn a new leaf at
sixteenth Street and you just bad mouthed it with all
your negativity. Have you ever heard of having an open mind,
some positivity and giving something a chance? Sound like me
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talking to my wife? Yes I have, And Daia, I'm
joking about that, by the way, not the Debbie Downer part.
She's always up, she's always positive. But I do ask her.
I often use the phrase God has not finished with
me yet. We hope.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Listen, come on, I've got a history at sixteen. I
mean when I started working as a lawyer. I've been
a lawyer now forty one years, right, And when I
started clerking, I started clerking on the mall died well,
on a law firm all all itself. That wouldn't be
too prosperous. But yeah, and you know I still go
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to court down there all the time. I'll be back
down there in the morning. So I probably spend more
time in Denver than ninety nine point nine nine nine
percent of the population that doesn't live there. And so
now I'm just being honest Yeah, I'm not doing any
Denver any favors. If I sit here and just be
another Chamber of Commerce cheerleader. You gotta be honest about
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what's wrong in order to fix it. I want it
to succeed. We all benefit from a healthy Denver. Dan
After spending one hundred and seventy five million on the
sixteenth Street Mall, it won't matter in one to five years.
Letting crime and open drug use continue in Denver will
cause the area to look horrible again. That from Alexa
and in the meantime, right, and don't blame law enforcement.
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They're doing the best they can with one hand, sometimes
two tied behind their back. Until Denver changes all that
stuff we started with, pro crime, pro drug use, you know,
pro attracting homeless people here, pro attracting folks in the
country legally to Yeah, until you change that structural stuff,
who's going to want to go there other than people
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who live close enough to walk. Right. So, yeah, I
don't think it's hurting Nuggets or Abs at all. I
don't think it should. My guess is it's probably hurting
Rockies a little bit, which would be sad. Obviously, Rockies
have some other challenges which hopefully will get fixed. So
we'll take some calls, we'll take some more texts than this,
because it is a big deal, and obviously it's symptomatic
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of a bigger issue.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We all need Denver to succeed, particularly if you're listening
to this show in Colorado. Doesn't matter where you are
in the state, it's important that Denver succeeds. And and
right now it is trending rapidly in the wrong direction.
Let's go to our friend Mary. You're on the Dan
Kaplis show. Welcome, Hey, Mary, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I think perhaps if Denner isn't good enough for the
governor to live in, I think we've got a real problem.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He has a beautiful home.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Why didn't he spend the money on fixing up the
governor's match.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Have you been around the governor's What a brilliant point
you make, Mary. Have you been around the governor's mansion lately? Well,
I know they have a homeless Yeah, oh, Ryan, have
you driven past it? And maybe it's been cleaned up recently,
but yeah, I know that that has been one of
the big hotspots. Now I'm assuming it's been cleaned up
as part of Mike Johnston spending hundreds of millions to
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get people hotel rooms but not addressing the underlying issue. Mary,
what a brilliant point, thank you for that. Isn't that
really telling Ryan that the governor doesn't live in Denver.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He still makes his home in Boulder?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah right, I think. I honestly don't know, but I've
heard he's not at the governor's mansion, you know, as
part of your service to the electorate.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
To me, it would be symbolic to live in the
governor's mansion and do the people's work.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's just how I feel, sure, sure no, and love
everybody's thoughts on that. I do want to talk about
what's going on in Chicago and some other cities where
the local government's the city government. Residents, whether they're organized
or not, are now actively interfering with ice. President Trump
talking about invoking the Insurrection Act. What do you think
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should happen there? You're on the Dane Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, and it's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
A winter like afternoon. Glad you're here unless you're up
in the mountains where it's sunny and more beautiful today.
So hey, let's go to the VIP line. Welcome Colorado's
fastest rising political star, Congressman Gabe Evans. Back to the
Dane Caplis show. How you doing, Congressman?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
One foot in front of the other, but it's always
good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, thank you, my friend, And I know you voted
for the clean cr so you want to get government
opened up. But Democrats seem intent on some nastiness here.
What's the latest?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah, so just the thirty second recap of how we
got here earlier this year and the President signing the
big beautiful bill, the Working Families Tax Cut, on July fourth.
Republicans cut one point five trillion dollars of deficit spending.
So that's about thirty one hundred dollars for every man, woman,
and child in this country that we saved just in
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terms of deficit spending. We also put some common sense
reforms in place around things like Medicaid. We said things
like able bodied, working aged adults with no young kids
they have to go to school, volunteer, or work part
time eighty hours a month in order to get their
taxpayer funded healthcare. And we said that taxpayer funded healthcare
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has to be for people who are legally present in
the United States, and those things are all sticking points
with the Democrats who can't stand to the fact that
we're not allowing them to fund illegal immigrants anymore, that
we're giving working families tax cuts in my district that
comes out to about three thousand dollars on average that
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everyday working class cutdens are going to see coming back
into their paycheck. And we got one point five trillion
dollars in deficit spending. So these are all of the
things that Democrats are now demanding that Republicans reverse in
order to open up the government.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What you're not going to do? So where does it end?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, So we've passed this bill through the House in
congressional slaying. It's a clean cr so a clean continuing resolution.
Clean means it's just a preservation of the status quo.
There's no backroom deals, there's no poison pills. It's literally
everything that was funded on September thirtieth stays funded at
those levels for another seven weeks, so that the appropriators,
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those are the folks in Congress that are actually supposed
to be the members who are supposed to be figuring
out the budget. So that they can actually pass. We
haven't passed a normal budget in decades in Congress. We're
so close to passing a normal budget the way it's
supposed to be done. We need a little more time.
So that's where we in the House pass this clean
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continuing resolution that just funds the status quo. Democrats cannot
they can't bring their minds around voting for this because
the status quo under the Republicans as of July fourth
is no taxpayer funds to illegal immigrants, and the Democrats
are trying to reverse that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Congressman Kate Evans, our guest, and I know this gets
into the weeds a little bit, but do you mind
explaining for us in a little bit of detail how
repealing the working Families tax cuts safeguards against healthcare going
to folks here illegally is tying this thing up. And
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I know that's tough to do in a radio interview,
but it seems to me that's the maneuver the Democrats
are trying to use right now in order to funnel
money to folks here illegally.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah. So in the House, simple majority passes the bill.
In the Senate because of the rules of the Senate
you got to have sixty folks, sixty senators that vote
for the legislation. Republicans only have fifty three votes in
the Senate, so we need a minimum seven Democrat senators
to join with the Republicans. And again that's the rules
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of the Senate, the filibuster, things like that. So the Republicans,
we passed it through the House, send over to the Senate,
this clean CR to fund the government at status quo
levels for the next seven weeks while we actually work
on next year's budget. The Democrats voted it down, so
that's why we have the shutdown. But then after that
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the Democrats put forth their counselor proposal. So on page
fifty seven of the Democrats counter proposal, it says they
want to repeal all of the reforms that Republicans made,
two things like Medicaid, and I will read you some
of the reforms in Medicaid. This is so the Republicans said,
and this is the actual title of the section. End
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ending Medicaid funding for most non citizens to the tune
of six billion dollars. Democrats want to repeal that. Republicans said,
ending enhanced emergency care to illegal immigrants twenty eight billion dollars.
Democrats want to repeal that. Republicans said, we're going to
close the California loophole. So that's how California did a
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shell game to take federal money to free up state
dollars and then say, oh, we're not using federal money
for illegal immigrants, we're using state money. Well, the only
reason that state money was free was because of the
shell game they played with federal dollars. So closing the
California loophole thirty four billion dollars. Democrats want to repeal that.
Ending Medicaid funding for most non citizens another five billion dollars.
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They want to get rid of that, ending Obamacare funding
for non citizens ninety one billion dollars. They want to
get rid of that, Repealing the Obamacare special rule for
immigrants another twenty seven billion dollars. These are all reforms
that the Republicans did. Page fifty seven of the Demo
Kraft's counter proposal to open the government repeals all of
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those and a whole bunch of other things.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and I think that's section twenty one forty one
if I understand it correctly. So, yeah, thanks for people
taking people into that, because I think it's so critical
to understand the Democrats are kind of impotent at the
federal level overall right now, are trying to use this
shutdown to force the GOP to repeal stuff that's very
popular with the people for good reasons. So any predictions
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on when this.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Ends, well, you know my background, I was a soldier
for twelve years in the Army. When the government shuts down,
the military doesn't get paid. So the military got their
last full paycheck on October first, Crazy, October fifteenth is
when the next paycheck would come. That's when I got
paid when I was in the army. So if the
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government's not opened by October fifteenth, now this is the
point where military families are actually starting to not have
money coming in the door. And you know, I lived
paycheck to paycheck when I was in the army, so
the pressure is only going up. But like I said,
you know, it's the balls and the Democrats courts. The
Republicans have voted to open the government. We voted it
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in the House, fifty two Republican senators voted for it
in the Senate, and we just need the Democrats to
get on board with status quo funding for seven more
weeks so that the actual budgetary process can continue to
play out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Last question, Congressman, when it comes to say military funding,
is there a mechanism in place that that would allow
partial funding of government operations, say for this specific need.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, So there's a bill that a lot of Republicans
are pushing and have pushed for decades to pay our
troops actor various different forms of that. That's a good
friend of mine, Republican from Virginia that's carrying the bill
this year that says, even in the event of a shutdown,
the military continues to get paid. So that's that's definitely
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something the Republicans have advocated for. But until we get
the government opened, it's difficult. You know, we can't, I mean,
we can't really do anything else when the government is
shut down. And as long as the Democrats are insistent
on holding the country hostage, holding the military hostage because
they want Republicans to repeal all of the protections we
(27:22):
put in place that say, no taxpayer funding for illegal
immitigant healthcare. You know, that's that's where that's why things
have come to a kind of a screech to halt.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Shifting gear, Sir quick sick. How can people support your
campaign if they want to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, So this is the only seat in the country
that we flipped in a blue state, one of five
seats that we flipped around the nation, second closest Republican
when it's going to be another sprint to the finish
to make sure that we hold this seat. So go
visit elect gave Evans dot com. Elect g A B
E E V A N s dot com. You let
two e's right next to each other.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Appreciate it much, Thanks for the time, Keep up the
great work.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Always good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Thank you, sir. Take care. That is a Congressman Gay Evans.
If you haven't checked him out, he really is one
of the bright young stars in the country right now
and well worth a look. Three or three seOne, three eight,
two five five. Hey, when we come back, President Trump
talking about maybe evoking the Insurrection Act, sending federal troops
into Chicago where ICE agents meeting resistance and you know,
(28:27):
from people in neighborhoods, whether it's true grassroots or otherwise,
and then also from people committing crimes against them. Do
you want to see Trump do that in Chicago? You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thank you, Ryan, thank you for that. You know, we're
talking about Sixteenth Street aka Sixteenth Street Mall, and they
just had one hundred and seventy five million dollar rehab
of it and the grand reopening. We played some of
that sound. And it's also sad, right, because you could,
you could make it one hundred and seventy five billion.
It wouldn't change anything until Denver changes the way it operates. Yeah,
(29:05):
if you're going to be pro criminal, you know, by
pro attracting more homeless here, pro attracting folks in the
country illegally here, and and all the other stupid stuff
the lefties are run Denver do. It doesn't matter how
much you spend on them all. That's just the truth.
But that song, Ryan, that song, Who did that song again?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Batula Clark, Patula Clark.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Wow, Yeah, I think she. I think she and Moses
used to hang out, right, No, no, no, but it's
a compliment. But Moses great taste in music. That was
a great song. But it's so sad, right because you
look at the Sixteenth Street moh, you look at all
of downtown Denver, I mean it is. This is one
(29:50):
of the most beautiful places on earth, this whole area,
including Denver. I remember, I've been practicing law forty years.
I started working at a that was down in that area.
There was a time that was a great area, and
you know, before legalization of marijuana, that area was still
hanging on. Once they legalized marijuana, I went straight to
(30:11):
pot for good reason. But yeah, pun intended because it's accurate.
But all I'm saying is, come on, just take a
step back look at this same big picture. You know,
no R, no D, no Red, no Blue were powerball
winners Denver. That area is one of the most beautiful
places on earth. There is no excuse for that area, Decaine.
(30:35):
That can only happen with terrible, terrible leadership and rule.
But you combine year after year after year of terrible
leadership and rule, and you decide, Hey, what are we
gonna do. Ah, let's be pro criminal, let's legalize drugs.
Let's try to attract homeless from all over the world
by promising them a home if they come to Denver.
That's forbade them, by the way. And then let's tell
(30:58):
folks in the country league or who want to come
to the country legally, come to Denver, you'll be welcomed
as a quote newcomer. Yeah, what do you think is
going to happen? I mean, it's just it's so maddening
because Denver it's it's got everything you need for greatness,
and it's like they go out of their way to
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just ruin it.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Brief aside, Petula Clark still with us ninety two years old.
She'll be ninety three in November, and her husband of
sixty three years.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Passed away last year.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Claude it wealth. If my uncle wasn't a priest, i'd
introduced it to him, right because you know how strong
he's still going. I wonder if he's a Petulla Clark fan,
you know he was. I got a call he's in
the hospital last week. He had a fall after mass,
and so I called the hospital and he says, hey,
bunch of the cubs, I'll call you back. Yeah, the
guy's a horse.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I aspire to be him a guy.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He's a horse. Michael and Lakewood, you are on the
dan Kaplis, you'll welcome.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Hey, how's it going living the dream?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
My friend?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I'm very confused, and you're gonna have to help me
square something away here, because as you are a lawyer,
I'm very confused why you don't actually mention any politicians
or any people who are supposedly pro crime.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And I don't expect you to have Oh I do
all the time.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
I do. Just say my fingertips. Who's running on it?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You wanted alphabetica, you want to chronological, you want it
by age, you want it by position, top to bottom.
Why don't we go Jared Poliss, let's go well, no,
if we're going to go top to bottom, let's go
kicking Looper, Bennett Polis, John Sting.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
They ran on that said they were pro crime.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No, let's look at what they did. You want to
go on what they've run on or what they've actually done.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
No, I want to see like an actual text description
ver Beato saying that they are pro crime and they're
okay with homeless people and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You say, Michael, my friend, are you serious? I mean
you really think that in order to conclude that Jared
Polis is pro criminal, Jared Poulis has to admit that
to you. Is that your criteria? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Because I just wonder how trumping fifteen hundred violent criminals
from Jay six and you don't call that pro crime
when that's the most hardens of any president since.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
True, Michael, this is a fascinating discovery. And and I've
been after this for thirty years trying to find somebody
who thinks the way you do. So I just want
to make sure I understand you correctly. So Jared Polus
can do anything he wants that's flagrantly, blatantly openly pro criminal,
and you're unwilling. You're unwilling to call him pro criminal
(33:41):
unless Jared Polus stands up and says, I'm pro criminal.
Vote for me because I'm pro criminal. That's your standard.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Sorry, that's your standard.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
This is what I want to understand, Michael, and that
he's just messing around this is it doesn't work both ways.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
This is what I want to understand. Why is that
your standard for all these Democrats who are so flagrantly
blatantly pro criminal. Why is that your standard for them?
I mean, don't you care about the vection tax.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Without the congressional approval against China and through intel?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I'm starting to understand.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Against the separation of checks and balances, and thank you
for the power of the person that Congress has.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Michael, correct me if I'm wrong. I think I'm starting
to understand this. You're never going to answer a direct question,
are you.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, I will admit they're both pro crime if you
can admit trumpet.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, for well, let's make sure the record's clear. So
you're admitting Polis is pro crime.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Yeah, I don't like polish. You're admitting doing the same thing,
so I just might choose why you seem to be
I'm just trying to like a personal stance on it.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm just trying to get a clear record. So you're admitting,
and I'll just go through the list as a whole,
and you can just say yes or no. You're admitting Bennett, Hicking, Looper, Johnston,
Polis all pro crime. Yeah, okay, Greig, we've got that.
That's settled. Let's shift it Downald. The question is Trump
to boy Michael, have you tried decaf.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So you can't admit it for Trump? Okay, that's fine.
I know you're not really a lawyer because you don't
understand that the INA and federal you know, the difference
of the supremacy Clause, and that states don't have to
aplide by federal law enforcement through immigration. You would be
quoting the I N A and eight USC one three
five seven G ten A if you knew that they
were made but not required to help with federal immigration.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Just to make it all this up right, you're just
making all this up. So now, Michael, President Trump. No,
President Trump is not pro criminal President Trump.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Also, when several of the J fixers got killed in
police shootout, that domestic of violence and incidents, or when
they were pulled over by the cops, that was a
pro crime letting those guys back out onto the street.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So who's that. Can you give me a name?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Sure, I can pull those names up.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
No no, no, no, no, no, back it up or pack it up.
Give me a name. We've got plenty of time. We've
got what ryan six seconds? So yeah, give me the
name the people you just accre accused of those heinous acts.
Any name, Make up a name, Give me a name. Yeah,
I thought so.
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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time to do that. Glad you're here. Hope you had
a great weekend. How could you not after that Bronco win,
(00:20):
even if you don't like football, that was a great
sign of things to come. But no surprise to you
or to me if you listen to this show. We've
expected great teams from the things from that team this year,
and looks like that's going to be delivered. Even with
those couple of kind of fluke losses. You just knew
that that was a good club. Three all three seven
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one three eight two five five The number text d
A N five seven seven three nine. And this will
be the last football we talked today. But personally, I'd
rather see a big win like that come the way
it came, right where you're down seventeen to three and
you're coming in the fourth quarter, and in Bronco history,
when you've trailed by that much on the road going
into the fourth quarter, you've won one game out of
one hundred and fifty two. I think it is, yeah,
(01:03):
because I think you get that added character element there
as part of that W So yeah, just made it
very special. So glad you're here. Lots to talk about. Wow,
this business we're starting to see in certain cities across
the country. I want to touch on that and on
what's going to come next from President Trump? Is he
going to invoke the Insurrection Act in a place like Chicago,
(01:25):
for example, where it's become quite the thing now to
openly interfere with ICE arrests and put these ICE agents
in very very dangerous situations. What will President Trump do
in response to that? It's and what do you want
to see him do in response to that? We'll kick
that around a little bit serious business, and my guess
(01:46):
is that President Trump will not do nothing. Bold prediction
of the day. I do want to start close to home, though,
and talk about the sixteen Street mall reopening after this
one hundred and seventy five million dollars makeover. And that's
an awful lot of lipstick for a pig, and it
you know, it's still a pig, and that's not meant
(02:07):
in any kind of pejorative way at all. But when
you look at the Sixteenth Street mall, you've just got
to face the reality. You've just got to face the
reality starting with where it is. And so it could
have been a billion dollar makeover. It wouldn't matter until
they change some things that are wrong with Denver structurally,
(02:28):
it's not going to work. But hey, we don't curse
the darkness around here. We light a candle. So I've
been taking all weekend about, Okay, what could be done
to make the sixteenth Street mall. I guess we can't
say mall anymore now, Ryan, right, They paid one hundred
grand to drop the word mall is the one word, yeah,
which is pretty good. Twenty five grand a letter. Good
work if you can get it. But but the good
news is that if I'm right here, what it would take,
(02:51):
what it would take to actually make sixteen Street work again,
would make the whole city work great. That's the good news.
The bad news is as long as left deser in control,
they're never going to do it. So do want to
get your suggestions, especially if you disagree, no matter where
you are in the state, because this you know what
happens in Denver doesn't stay in Denver, especially when it's bad.
And if you're listening to the show in Colorado, we
(03:14):
all have a vested interest in a successful Denver and
in a successful Sixteenth Street. We all have a vested interest.
And then we all have a vested interest in it
not continuing to decay. So yeah, we're all Colorados if
you happen to be, and if you're not a Colorado,
you're an American. We're all Americans. So we want this
(03:35):
major city to succeed. What will it take for Sixteenth
Street to succeed again? And I've got receipts, I've got
concrete suggestions three or three seven, one, three eight, two
five five text d A N five seven, seventh through ninety.
I also want to play this Kusa piece because it
was very honest and it was very well done, and
it was also very sad. So let me play it now.
(03:58):
Did you happen to watch this? Ryan? I know you've
had a very busy day, and Ryan does this great
show two to four every day and six thirty kids
at w and Denver. Did you happen to watch this
piece while you were cutting it?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I did?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Did you have the same reaction. It was just kind
of sad.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
There was an undertone of sadness to the whole thing,
and I think the reporter for nine News contributes to
that but accurately.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Right, So let me play it now, and what I
ask you to listen for see if you agree or not,
is this is the grand reopening, right, and so you're
sure the city's trying to just get everybody out there
it can to the mall for this grand reopening and KUSA,
which I think is generally very supportive of the Johnston administration.
(04:40):
You know, they're not trying to make them look bad.
But most of the video is focused on this one
fair to describe him as old guy kind of dancing
by himself on the mall and then a handful of
strangers looking at him like what's he doing? So this
the grand reopening of the mall. Not exactly the image
(05:02):
you're after, but hey, we're in the fix it business.
What do you do to fix sixteenth Street?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
On sixteenth Street in downtown Denver, signs of the past
still remain, but today the focus was on the future.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
We're so thrilled to welcome Denver back.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Courtney Garrett in the downtown Denver Partnership through a party
to officially reopen a place that's now called.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Sixteenth Street no mall.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, that word was dropped as part of a one
hundred and seventy five million dollar makeover to this pedestrian
accessible walkway or whatever you want to call it, which
now has new pavers, wider sidewalks, and more places to sit,
play and dance.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If somebody comes up on d w me have billings.
Thanks you Okay, I'm a good dancer.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Jeff Peterson has been coming here for years and remembers
when the mall was a focal point to downtown.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Then COVID came and people left, turning this into a
place Jeff didn't want to visit. No, it could have
been a little bit better, Jack, Why we'll get it now.
It's beautiful. Today thousands of people returned to food, live music,
and plenty of dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's truly representing the future of Denver as a place
that is showcasing what is absolutely the best of.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Our whole city.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Courtney says success here won't be measured by today's party,
but by whether people like Jeff keep showing up tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
We know the community wants to be here in Denver.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
It's a beautiful place now, Evan.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Krul nine News, I mean, god love, I'm sure he's
a wonderful guy, but I'm not sure that's the image
Denver was hoping to project there. But but Kusa, they're
just reporting honestly there. I mean, that's that's who showed up.
And I guess Ryan, they couldn't find an accordion and
(07:02):
hokey pokey and whatever. I mean, well, he might have been.
Did the whole thing sound old old? Yeah, that's one
word for it.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And it might have been, you know, the friendliest guy
they could find there that was having the most fun.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
And he sounded, like you said, harmless.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yes, their to day goodness. Yeah, sounds like a wonderful guy.
But then just the video, this one old guy dancing
by himself. Yeah, listen, it's not going to work. That
the mall is not going to work until they structurally
changed Denver. You know why, because you know where it's located.
It's located in Denver. That that's the you. I mean, really,
who other than people like live in the immediate area,
(07:40):
who's going to go to sixteenth Street? And why? And
I don't wish them anything ill, but greatest respect you
can ever show anybody is to just tell the truth.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, what really irked me Dan, and I think you
felt the same way was there was a woman from Arizona,
a flight attendant, who on her time off between flights,
went to sixteenth Street and was stabbed to death. And
then the mayor, Mike Johnston, had the audacity to hold
a press conference in which he said, don't look at that.
On the whole we're doing a lot better. And then
you had the Heckler walk by swear at.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It, and the performance by a signer.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The signer interpreted yeah, hero signer, but in a serious note,
the audacity of Mayor Johnston in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
She'd almost been decapitated feet away.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah. Now, And that's why I say, because it's in Denver. Listen,
as we talk about all the time, there's some absolutely
wonderful parts of Denver. There are two Denvers. There's the gleaming,
prosperous part, which should be celebrated, and then there's the
other part where literally that the zip code you live
in in Denver determines whether you're going to spend ten
more years on this planet or not, meaning that life
(08:46):
expectancy so much higher in the Gleaming zip codes than
the others. And so for sixteenth Street to work, you
need to attract a lot of people from outside Denver.
People from outside Denver aren't going there because the lefties
who run Denver are pro criminal, anti innocent victim, and
they're pro drugs and anti the people who don't want
(09:09):
their kids around drugs legalized or not. You know, they're
pro attracting as many homeless people as they can to Colorado.
I mean that the amer comes out and says, we
will get you a home. Most people who would be
traveling into Denver, if they chose to do that, they're
not looking for that. And then they're pro inviting people
(09:30):
who are coming to this country illegally from all over
the world to come to Denver. Most people from outside Denver,
when they're looking for places to go, are not looking
to go to a place that's bringing in as many
folks who are here illegally as possible. And it's nothing
racial about that, nothing at all. It's just when you
(09:50):
put all that together, and you've got these lefties who
run Denver who are so soft on crime, which has
the effect of actually in encouraging crime, and they encourage
legal drugs, put the legal in quotes, and they create
this this mess downtown. Guess what, you can spend a
billion dollars. People aren't going down there till you change
(10:13):
the bigger things that are wrong with Denver. You're on
the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well, mister President, don't do it. Such a historically great
presidency what we've seen so far, and I expect even
more in the future. But I'm looking at the latest headline,
President Trump, I'd have to take a look at Pardon
for Galaine Maxwell. Now, first of all, take that headline
with more than a grain of salt, because it's off.
CNN can't believe for a second the president would seriously
(10:42):
consider that, and he should not, in my humble opinion,
three or three seven one, three eight, two five five
the number text DN five seven seven three nine. And
obviously the only reason you'd ever consider it is if
she provided information that led to the successful prosecution of
lots of these other child rapists like Epstein was, and
(11:03):
she was such an obvious facilitator, etc. All right, Glad
you're here. One of the things we're talking about. We'll
talk a little bit about there out the day because
I think it's so important, so interesting, is can anything
be done to save Sixteenth Street aka Sixteenth Street Mall.
We played the package beginning the show, you know, the
one hundred and seventy five million million rehab and the
(11:24):
grand opening and all of that, and yeah, it's not
coming back until Denver fundamentally changes its approach to crime
and homelessness and illegal immigration. It's just not coming back.
People aren't going to go there. I think, Ryan, what's
your sense because you and I we both go to games,
right We go to ball for a lot of nuggets
and abs, We go to Coursefield for Rockies. To me,
(11:49):
that's different than going to Denver. And I think there's
no hesitation right now in the part of people to
go to ball.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't think anybody thinks, oh, I'm going to be
going into some high crime area to ball arena. I
think it's just viewed as kind of a separate appendage
when you and part of it is the location right
right there. If I twenty five are area, et cetera,
you don't have to like go into Denver. Now, listen,
don't get me wrong. I go into Denver all the time,
and I like it, and I you know, I go
(12:17):
to court there, I do other things. I'll be at
the Court of Appeals tomorrow morning. But there are a
lot of people that just won't go into Denver. And
if you're one of those people, love to hear from
me in your reason why three oh three seven one
three eight two five five text d A N five
seven seven.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Three nine, trying to compare it to the cities we
know U Chicago, Me, Detroit, and Detroit has been on
the upward ascent, I would say for some time now.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I'm creating what is called a stadium district.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
So there's Ford Field, Comerica Park, Little seas Arena, all
the sports, Greek Town, which is a big tourist attraction,
the casinos, and it's been sprawling, in my opinion, in
a good way, so that there are areas you can
go in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I know this sounds like.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
A punchline and feel safe, I do the end. There
are areas of Denver where I feel far less safe
than I do at any point walking around Detroit. And
that is just a simple fact of the matter as
it stands right now, but it would be comparable. Let's
say sixteenth Street Mall to Woodward in Detroit for me,
maybe the mag Mile for you in Chicago, and that's
gotten a lot worse, Oh goodness, in Chicago. Yeah, but
(13:17):
I go to, say the Paramount Theater, which is much
closer to where we are talking. There is a Giordano's
and I'm a big Chicago style pizza fan like you are,
and there's one of those by sixteenth Street Mall. But
there are pockets, and there are areas, and there is crime,
and there is open drug use and sale of that,
and we've heard about it from listeners too. That's just
not conducive to say, taking a family of four down there,
(13:39):
It just isn't all right.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And listen, if you want sixteenth Street to succeed, well,
and I understand they've got more visible police presence, et cetera. Hey,
let the men and women of DPD do their job
and fully staff them and give them the authority to
fully enforce the law. That'll be an enormous step toward
sixteenth Street eventually six eating again. But then, of course
(14:01):
you have to change the underlying leftist policies and rule
and obviously state laws now that have been made to
favor the criminal. Yeah, all of that just leaves it.
Do OA just leave sixteenth Street doa until they make
major structural changes. Coursefield, though, is what I was driving at.
To me, Coursefield is more like going into the city,
(14:21):
and we go in without hesitation. We enjoy our trips
to Coursefield. It's always a blast. It's a big reason
the Rockies continue to drop people right at such a
nice ballpark. My guess is, and I'd have no way
to prove it that that you do lose. They do
lose the Rockies. Some fans to the fact that it's
more like going in the city. And I don't know
if Johnston the Left that they know. I'm sure they
(14:43):
don't even care about just how ferocious the attitude is
out there among so many people who just won't go
into Denver. And they can blame it on COVID for
the next three hundred years, right, rather than on their
own crazy policies. There are so many people who just
won't go in to Denver. Three h three seven one
(15:04):
three eight two five five the number. If you disagree
with me on any of this, please call, We'll send
the limo, at least metaphorically. Dan, you're such a Debbie Downer.
First day of trying to turn a new leaf at
sixteenth Street and you just bad mouthed it with all
your negativity. Have you ever heard of having an open mind,
some positivity and giving something a chance? Sound like me
(15:25):
talking to my wife? Yes I have, And Daia, I'm
joking about that, by the way, not the Debbie Downer part.
She's always up, she's always positive. But I do ask her.
I often use the phrase God has not finished with
me yet. We hope.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Listen, come on, I've got a history at sixteen. I
mean when I started working as a lawyer. I've been
a lawyer now forty one years, right, And when I
started clerking, I started clerking on the mall died well,
on a law firm all all itself. That wouldn't be
too prosperous. But yeah, and you know I still go
(16:01):
to court down there all the time. I'll be back
down there in the morning. So I probably spend more
time in Denver than ninety nine point nine nine nine
percent of the population that doesn't live there. And so
now I'm just being honest Yeah, I'm not doing any
Denver any favors. If I sit here and just be
another Chamber of Commerce cheerleader. You gotta be honest about
(16:23):
what's wrong in order to fix it. I want it
to succeed. We all benefit from a healthy Denver. Dan
After spending one hundred and seventy five million on the
sixteenth Street Mall, it won't matter in one to five years.
Letting crime and open drug use continue in Denver will
cause the area to look horrible again. That from Alexa
and in the meantime, right, and don't blame law enforcement.
(16:43):
They're doing the best they can with one hand, sometimes
two tied behind their back. Until Denver changes all that
stuff we started with, pro crime, pro drug use, you know,
pro attracting homeless people here, pro attracting folks in the
country legally to Yeah, until you change that structural stuff,
who's going to want to go there other than people
(17:05):
who live close enough to walk. Right. So, yeah, I
don't think it's hurting Nuggets or Abs at all. I
don't think it should. My guess is it's probably hurting
Rockies a little bit, which would be sad. Obviously, Rockies
have some other challenges which hopefully will get fixed. So
we'll take some calls, we'll take some more texts than this,
because it is a big deal, and obviously it's symptomatic
(17:28):
of a bigger issue.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We all need Denver to succeed, particularly if you're listening
to this show in Colorado. Doesn't matter where you are
in the state, it's important that Denver succeeds. And and
right now it is trending rapidly in the wrong direction.
Let's go to our friend Mary. You're on the Dan
Kaplis show. Welcome, Hey, Mary, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I think perhaps if Denner isn't good enough for the
governor to live in, I think we've got a real problem.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
He has a beautiful home.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Why didn't he spend the money on fixing up the
governor's match.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Have you been around the governor's What a brilliant point
you make, Mary. Have you been around the governor's mansion lately? Well,
I know they have a homeless Yeah, oh, Ryan, have
you driven past it? And maybe it's been cleaned up recently,
but yeah, I know that that has been one of
the big hotspots. Now I'm assuming it's been cleaned up
as part of Mike Johnston spending hundreds of millions to
(18:28):
get people hotel rooms but not addressing the underlying issue. Mary,
what a brilliant point, thank you for that. Isn't that
really telling Ryan that the governor doesn't live in Denver.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
He still makes his home in Boulder?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah right, I think. I honestly don't know, but I've
heard he's not at the governor's mansion, you know, as
part of your service to the electorate.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
To me, it would be symbolic to live in the
governor's mansion and do the people's work.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That's just how I feel, sure, sure no, and love
everybody's thoughts on that. I do want to talk about
what's going on in Chicago and some other cities where
the local government's the city government. Residents, whether they're organized
or not, are now actively interfering with ice. President Trump
talking about invoking the Insurrection Act. What do you think
(19:15):
should happen there? You're on the Dane Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, and it's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
A winter like afternoon. Glad you're here unless you're up
in the mountains where it's sunny and more beautiful today.
So hey, let's go to the VIP line. Welcome Colorado's
fastest rising political star, Congressman Gabe Evans. Back to the
Dane Caplis show. How you doing, Congressman?
Speaker 5 (19:42):
One foot in front of the other, but it's always
good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, thank you, my friend, And I know you voted
for the clean cr so you want to get government
opened up. But Democrats seem intent on some nastiness here.
What's the latest?
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Yeah, so just the thirty second recap of how we
got here earlier this year and the President signing the
big beautiful bill, the Working Families Tax Cut, on July fourth.
Republicans cut one point five trillion dollars of deficit spending.
So that's about thirty one hundred dollars for every man, woman,
and child in this country that we saved just in
(20:16):
terms of deficit spending. We also put some common sense
reforms in place around things like Medicaid. We said things
like able bodied, working aged adults with no young kids
they have to go to school, volunteer, or work part
time eighty hours a month in order to get their
taxpayer funded healthcare. And we said that taxpayer funded healthcare
(20:37):
has to be for people who are legally present in
the United States, and those things are all sticking points
with the Democrats who can't stand to the fact that
we're not allowing them to fund illegal immigrants anymore, that
we're giving working families tax cuts in my district that
comes out to about three thousand dollars on average that
(20:58):
everyday working class cutdens are going to see coming back
into their paycheck. And we got one point five trillion
dollars in deficit spending. So these are all of the
things that Democrats are now demanding that Republicans reverse in
order to open up the government.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What you're not going to do? So where does it end?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Yeah, So we've passed this bill through the House in
congressional slaying. It's a clean cr so a clean continuing resolution.
Clean means it's just a preservation of the status quo.
There's no backroom deals, there's no poison pills. It's literally
everything that was funded on September thirtieth stays funded at
those levels for another seven weeks, so that the appropriators,
(21:41):
those are the folks in Congress that are actually supposed
to be the members who are supposed to be figuring
out the budget. So that they can actually pass. We
haven't passed a normal budget in decades in Congress. We're
so close to passing a normal budget the way it's
supposed to be done. We need a little more time.
So that's where we in the House pass this clean
(22:03):
continuing resolution that just funds the status quo. Democrats cannot
they can't bring their minds around voting for this because
the status quo under the Republicans as of July fourth
is no taxpayer funds to illegal immigrants, and the Democrats
are trying to reverse that.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Congressman Kate Evans, our guest, and I know this gets
into the weeds a little bit, but do you mind
explaining for us in a little bit of detail how
repealing the working Families tax cuts safeguards against healthcare going
to folks here illegally is tying this thing up. And
(22:43):
I know that's tough to do in a radio interview,
but it seems to me that's the maneuver the Democrats
are trying to use right now in order to funnel
money to folks here illegally.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah. So in the House, simple majority passes the bill.
In the Senate because of the rules of the Senate
you got to have sixty folks, sixty senators that vote
for the legislation. Republicans only have fifty three votes in
the Senate, so we need a minimum seven Democrat senators
to join with the Republicans. And again that's the rules
(23:16):
of the Senate, the filibuster, things like that. So the Republicans,
we passed it through the House, send over to the Senate,
this clean CR to fund the government at status quo
levels for the next seven weeks while we actually work
on next year's budget. The Democrats voted it down, so
that's why we have the shutdown. But then after that
(23:37):
the Democrats put forth their counselor proposal. So on page
fifty seven of the Democrats counter proposal, it says they
want to repeal all of the reforms that Republicans made,
two things like Medicaid, and I will read you some
of the reforms in Medicaid. This is so the Republicans said,
and this is the actual title of the section. End
(24:00):
ending Medicaid funding for most non citizens to the tune
of six billion dollars. Democrats want to repeal that. Republicans said,
ending enhanced emergency care to illegal immigrants twenty eight billion dollars.
Democrats want to repeal that. Republicans said, we're going to
close the California loophole. So that's how California did a
(24:20):
shell game to take federal money to free up state
dollars and then say, oh, we're not using federal money
for illegal immigrants, we're using state money. Well, the only
reason that state money was free was because of the
shell game they played with federal dollars. So closing the
California loophole thirty four billion dollars. Democrats want to repeal that.
Ending Medicaid funding for most non citizens another five billion dollars.
(24:42):
They want to get rid of that, ending Obamacare funding
for non citizens ninety one billion dollars. They want to
get rid of that, Repealing the Obamacare special rule for
immigrants another twenty seven billion dollars. These are all reforms
that the Republicans did. Page fifty seven of the Demo
Kraft's counter proposal to open the government repeals all of
(25:03):
those and a whole bunch of other things.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and I think that's section twenty one forty one
if I understand it correctly. So, yeah, thanks for people
taking people into that, because I think it's so critical
to understand the Democrats are kind of impotent at the
federal level overall right now, are trying to use this
shutdown to force the GOP to repeal stuff that's very
popular with the people for good reasons. So any predictions
(25:29):
on when this.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Ends, well, you know my background, I was a soldier
for twelve years in the Army. When the government shuts down,
the military doesn't get paid. So the military got their
last full paycheck on October first, Crazy, October fifteenth is
when the next paycheck would come. That's when I got
paid when I was in the army. So if the
(25:52):
government's not opened by October fifteenth, now this is the
point where military families are actually starting to not have
money coming in the door. And you know, I lived
paycheck to paycheck when I was in the army, so
the pressure is only going up. But like I said,
you know, it's the balls and the Democrats courts. The
Republicans have voted to open the government. We voted it
(26:14):
in the House, fifty two Republican senators voted for it
in the Senate, and we just need the Democrats to
get on board with status quo funding for seven more
weeks so that the actual budgetary process can continue to
play out.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Last question, Congressman, when it comes to say military funding,
is there a mechanism in place that that would allow
partial funding of government operations, say for this specific need.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah, So there's a bill that a lot of Republicans
are pushing and have pushed for decades to pay our
troops actor various different forms of that. That's a good
friend of mine, Republican from Virginia that's carrying the bill
this year that says, even in the event of a shutdown,
the military continues to get paid. So that's that's definitely
(27:02):
something the Republicans have advocated for. But until we get
the government opened, it's difficult. You know, we can't, I mean,
we can't really do anything else when the government is
shut down. And as long as the Democrats are insistent
on holding the country hostage, holding the military hostage because
they want Republicans to repeal all of the protections we
(27:22):
put in place that say, no taxpayer funding for illegal
immitigant healthcare. You know, that's that's where that's why things
have come to a kind of a screech to halt.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Shifting gear, Sir quick sick. How can people support your
campaign if they want to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, So this is the only seat in the country
that we flipped in a blue state, one of five
seats that we flipped around the nation, second closest Republican
when it's going to be another sprint to the finish
to make sure that we hold this seat. So go
visit elect gave Evans dot com. Elect g A B
E E V A N s dot com. You let
two e's right next to each other.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Appreciate it much, Thanks for the time, Keep up the
great work.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Always good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Thank you, sir. Take care. That is a Congressman Gay Evans.
If you haven't checked him out, he really is one
of the bright young stars in the country right now
and well worth a look. Three or three seOne, three eight,
two five five. Hey, when we come back, President Trump
talking about maybe evoking the Insurrection Act, sending federal troops
into Chicago where ICE agents meeting resistance and you know,
(28:27):
from people in neighborhoods, whether it's true grassroots or otherwise,
and then also from people committing crimes against them. Do
you want to see Trump do that in Chicago? You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thank you, Ryan, thank you for that. You know, we're
talking about Sixteenth Street aka Sixteenth Street Mall, and they
just had one hundred and seventy five million dollar rehab
of it and the grand reopening. We played some of
that sound. And it's also sad, right, because you could,
you could make it one hundred and seventy five billion.
It wouldn't change anything until Denver changes the way it operates. Yeah,
(29:05):
if you're going to be pro criminal, you know, by
pro attracting more homeless here, pro attracting folks in the
country illegally here, and and all the other stupid stuff
the lefties are run Denver do. It doesn't matter how
much you spend on them all. That's just the truth.
But that song, Ryan, that song, Who did that song again?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Batula Clark, Patula Clark.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Wow, Yeah, I think she. I think she and Moses
used to hang out, right, No, no, no, but it's
a compliment. But Moses great taste in music. That was
a great song. But it's so sad, right because you
look at the Sixteenth Street moh, you look at all
of downtown Denver, I mean it is. This is one
(29:50):
of the most beautiful places on earth, this whole area,
including Denver. I remember, I've been practicing law forty years.
I started working at a that was down in that area.
There was a time that was a great area, and
you know, before legalization of marijuana, that area was still
hanging on. Once they legalized marijuana, I went straight to
(30:11):
pot for good reason. But yeah, pun intended because it's accurate.
But all I'm saying is, come on, just take a
step back look at this same big picture. You know,
no R, no D, no Red, no Blue were powerball
winners Denver. That area is one of the most beautiful
places on earth. There is no excuse for that area, Decaine.
(30:35):
That can only happen with terrible, terrible leadership and rule.
But you combine year after year after year of terrible
leadership and rule, and you decide, Hey, what are we
gonna do. Ah, let's be pro criminal, let's legalize drugs.
Let's try to attract homeless from all over the world
by promising them a home if they come to Denver.
That's forbade them, by the way. And then let's tell
(30:58):
folks in the country league or who want to come
to the country legally, come to Denver, you'll be welcomed
as a quote newcomer. Yeah, what do you think is
going to happen? I mean, it's just it's so maddening
because Denver it's it's got everything you need for greatness,
and it's like they go out of their way to
(31:18):
just ruin it.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Brief aside, Petula Clark still with us ninety two years old.
She'll be ninety three in November, and her husband of
sixty three years.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Passed away last year.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Claude it wealth. If my uncle wasn't a priest, i'd
introduced it to him, right because you know how strong
he's still going. I wonder if he's a Petulla Clark fan,
you know he was. I got a call he's in
the hospital last week. He had a fall after mass,
and so I called the hospital and he says, hey,
bunch of the cubs, I'll call you back. Yeah, the
guy's a horse.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I aspire to be him a guy.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He's a horse. Michael and Lakewood, you are on the
dan Kaplis, you'll welcome.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Hey, how's it going living the dream?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
My friend?
Speaker 6 (32:00):
I'm very confused, and you're gonna have to help me
square something away here, because as you are a lawyer,
I'm very confused why you don't actually mention any politicians
or any people who are supposedly pro crime.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And I don't expect you to have Oh I do
all the time.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
I do. Just say my fingertips. Who's running on it?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You wanted alphabetica, you want to chronological, you want it
by age, you want it by position, top to bottom.
Why don't we go Jared Poliss, let's go well, no,
if we're going to go top to bottom, let's go
kicking Looper, Bennett Polis, John Sting.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
They ran on that said they were pro crime.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
No, let's look at what they did. You want to
go on what they've run on or what they've actually done.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
No, I want to see like an actual text description
ver Beato saying that they are pro crime and they're
okay with homeless people and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You say, Michael, my friend, are you serious? I mean
you really think that in order to conclude that Jared
Polis is pro criminal, Jared Poulis has to admit that
to you. Is that your criteria? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Because I just wonder how trumping fifteen hundred violent criminals
from Jay six and you don't call that pro crime
when that's the most hardens of any president since.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
True, Michael, this is a fascinating discovery. And and I've
been after this for thirty years trying to find somebody
who thinks the way you do. So I just want
to make sure I understand you correctly. So Jared Polus
can do anything he wants that's flagrantly, blatantly openly pro criminal,
and you're unwilling. You're unwilling to call him pro criminal
(33:41):
unless Jared Polus stands up and says, I'm pro criminal.
Vote for me because I'm pro criminal. That's your standard.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Sorry, that's your standard.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
This is what I want to understand, Michael, and that
he's just messing around this is it doesn't work both ways.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
This is what I want to understand. Why is that
your standard for all these Democrats who are so flagrantly
blatantly pro criminal. Why is that your standard for them?
I mean, don't you care about the vection tax.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Without the congressional approval against China and through intel?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And I'm starting to understand.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Against the separation of checks and balances, and thank you
for the power of the person that Congress has.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Michael, correct me if I'm wrong. I think I'm starting
to understand this. You're never going to answer a direct question,
are you.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, I will admit they're both pro crime if you
can admit trumpet.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, for well, let's make sure the record's clear. So
you're admitting Polis is pro crime.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Yeah, I don't like polish. You're admitting doing the same thing,
so I just might choose why you seem to be
I'm just trying to like a personal stance on it.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm just trying to get a clear record. So you're admitting,
and I'll just go through the list as a whole,
and you can just say yes or no. You're admitting Bennett, Hicking, Looper, Johnston,
Polis all pro crime. Yeah, okay, Greig, we've got that.
That's settled. Let's shift it Downald. The question is Trump
to boy Michael, have you tried decaf.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So you can't admit it for Trump? Okay, that's fine.
I know you're not really a lawyer because you don't
understand that the INA and federal you know, the difference
of the supremacy Clause, and that states don't have to
aplide by federal law enforcement through immigration. You would be
quoting the I N A and eight USC one three
five seven G ten A if you knew that they
were made but not required to help with federal immigration.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Just to make it all this up right, you're just
making all this up. So now, Michael, President Trump. No,
President Trump is not pro criminal President Trump.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
Also, when several of the J fixers got killed in
police shootout, that domestic of violence and incidents, or when
they were pulled over by the cops, that was a
pro crime letting those guys back out onto the street.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
So who's that. Can you give me a name?
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Sure, I can pull those names up.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
No no, no, no, no, no, back it up or pack it up.
Give me a name. We've got plenty of time. We've
got what ryan six seconds? So yeah, give me the
name the people you just accre accused of those heinous acts.
Any name, Make up a name, Give me a name. Yeah,
I thought so.
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