In the second hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Jeff Hurd, a Republican representative from Colorado's third congressional district, to discuss why he was one of the few politicians in the GOP to oppose Donald Trump's use of executive power to enforce his tariffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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way is that Michael Bennett should not be the governor
of Colorado, and it looks today as if he's likely
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to be the Democrat nominee. He announced today most critically,
though Joe Negoose was there to back him, and no
Goose could have the nomination if he wanted it. And
so the sense that I get right now is that
this thing is probably wired for Bennett. It'll be interesting
to see if Wiser even stays in the race, because
what's going to happen now is if it looks like
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Bennett is the likely nominee, then at that point you're
going to have all of these people engaging in body
part kissing to try to position themselves, you know, to
then be appointed to be Bennett's successor in the US
Senate in the last two years of his term, should
Bennett win.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So, if this is.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Headed the direction it appears to be at this point,
and the Democrat nominee is going to be Michael Bennett.
I think it is fair to say he is one
of the last people on the face of the earth
who should be the governor of Colorado. I mean, you
look at this state right now, and you look at
everything that we're up against, and whoever it is, you know,
whichever party, you need somebody with ability. You need somebody
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who has the skill set and the tools to actually
go out and get things done. Nobody has ever done
less with more in the US Senate than Michael Bennett. Ryan,
could you trademark that just in case.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I like that? Okay, thank you, But it's true.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm sure he's a nice guy, and I'm sure he's
a great dad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Now I'm not saying he's a bad human. I'm saying
he's one.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Of the worst possible people on earth to serve as
governor of Colorado. So not only do you have a
guy who demonstrably he's proven it, he lacks the skill
set necessary for this job. I consider myself a nice guy.
I consider myself somebody who has some skills. But I
will not I will not be a small forward for
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the Denver Nuggets tonight. I just don't have the skills
necessary for that job. I would be a better small
forward for the Nuggets than Bennett would be governor of
the state of Colorado. And truly, all of these years
in the Senate, what has he accomplished. Not only has
he not accomplished anything, he hasn't even had any impact.
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But beyond that, here's the worst part of all. His
ideas are horrible. If he was able to accomplish the
things he believed in, it would be terrible for this day.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is a guy Ryan. Shouldn't somebody be able.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
To win the race on this alone? Oh, by the way,
this is all you have to say. At the debate,
maybe two things right. He voted against the Lake and
Riley Act. I mean, this is a guy who for
years has done things that have made it very hard,
if not impossible, to deport illegal aliens who commit crimes.
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This is a guy who wants a wide open border.
This is a guy who mocked the idea of Trump's
wall at the border. This guy is so far left.
And I understand the sheep's clothing kind of thing, but
I think people right now are so upset about what
Bennett and the rest of these lefties engineered at the
border and all the criminals who float in all the
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TDA stuff in Colorado night right now, because of Bennett
and people like him, I don't think people are in
the mood for the moderate act from a guy who
has proven through all these things he said and all
these votes he's cast, including against the Lake and Riley Act,
how radically pro illegal immigrant, how radically pro criminal illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Immigrant he is.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So yeah, this guy should not be governor three or
three someone three eight, two, five five. And then we
get to temperament, right, because you may be saying yourself, well, Okay,
he's got all these bad ideas and he doesn't have
the skills, and he's really unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But now he's he's got the right temperament. No, he doesn't.
I mean this is typical.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
This is like Polis, This is like so many of
these other Democrats, like Bennet himself, all of these people
who live in this media bubble where they're protected, right,
they're not fighters. They can't take a punch, and so
if they ever had the ability to, they've lost it.
Those muscles have just gone flabby because they just don't
allow themselves to be challenged. And we've seen that over
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and over again with these Colorado Democrats. When they go
out in the real world, they get out, they get
out of the bubble. So here is Michael Bennett today.
I mean, it's all controlled right, this is his announcement.
It's not a debate somewhere, and the most mild mannered,
down the middle reporter you will ever find, Rob Dawson
from the eight fifty KOA Newsroom, asks him a very
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simple questionquestion about a criticism that he's not in the
state often enough. Now listen for two things. Listen for
the tone and listen for the substance, because on tone
you'll hear him become immediately very agitated over a pretty simple,
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fair question, and then he says stuff that just isn't true.
So he flips out over a question like this.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
By your critics say they don't spend enough time in
the state and some people may not really know you.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Do you feel like, I think that's just absolute nonsense.
There isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado
that I have as a state wide elected official.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Unbelievable. He gets agitated and.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
As that's absolute nonsense, and then says something provably false.
No state wide elected officials spent more time in the
state than he has just nonsense stuff. So this is
going to beautiful, right, And that's on the first day
of the campaign, before it even starts to get rough.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So listen, I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Want any of these lefties as governor, okay, because their
ideas are so bad. But when you're governor, it's not
like when you're senator, and okay, you occupy that space.
And he's a reliable vote for the far left in
his party and he doesn't have the skills or influence
to get anything done, so he's otherwise kind of a
waste of space. You know, all right, you'd rather have
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a conservative, you'd rather have a Republican. But at that point,
at least he's a lefty who's not doing much harm
because he doesn't have the skill and ability to But
if you're governor, the state needs you to be good.
And if it's gonna be a lefty who's elected, you
still need somebody who's got the skills and ability and
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leadership qualities and persuasive a abilities to lead the state
through some of the tough times, disasters, et cetera. That
every state experience is the last thing you need is
a guy like this who just doesn't have the skills
and is thoroughly unaccomplished in public life. Three or three
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five seven seven three nine Texters are fired up this afternoon,
Dan aoc absence of capability that from No Code Dan,
I would respectfully disagree. I think she's capable of doing
great things for the right and has done that consistently.
Dan for governor exclamation point, Dan, nobody can debate you.
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Come on, Please dice him up, Dan, Please learn'n for governor.
You will kick his word. We can't say on air, Dan,
I'd be proud of vote for you as our next governor.
No Code Dan, Thank you then, man, that is that
makes my day. Thank you for that and appreciate that
very much. What do other folks have to say today?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Dan? Or Ryan?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Where can I find Michael Bennett interview with Rob Dawson?
Is that full thing posted?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I need to ask? Yeah, I think he probably is,
but I'll text Robert.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Let's get that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Because also Rob told me that as I mentioned that,
Bennett's saying he's going to appoint his successor to the
US Senate. And this is another reason Bennett should not
be governor. My lord man, you talk about oblivious, mister oblivious,
it's not mister oblivious, it's mister rich and titled guy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right. So you grow up in d stc.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Among the aloof Democrat elite, and that's how he grew
up as a kid, and you just get this entitlement attitude.
So think about this full of blank entitlement attitude that
he has. All Right, he gets elected to a US
Senate seat by the people of Colorado. What did they
elect him to do? To go work for him? So
now he's going to spend the next couple of years
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running for governor. But is he going to leave the
US Senate so somebody can be there doing that job.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, he's not going to do that. He's not going
to do.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That because what if he loses the race for governor. Right,
So he's not going to do that. He's going to
hold onto that seat while he's back here running for governor.
And then he tells Rob Dawson says, he said he
Michael Bennett plans to appoint his successor. Think about that arrogant,
elitist royal attitude. That is, so he's not going to
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do the job that people elected him to do. He's
going to hold onto that job so he can then
decide who succeeds him rather than Jared poulis remarkable, But
that is the attitude and that that should help somebody
beat Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, we all we all have some of our playlists, right,
we all have that kind of pump up list that
you play when you have to pump up.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And I've got mine for going to court.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And well do you think Michael Bennett plays to get
himself pumped up? Dan?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I said it without my kind of opera, you know,
some kind of I'm going to go with a music thing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You talk about a guy who should be the last
guy to be governor of the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Can you imagine anybody who's more out of touch with
the real people of Colorado than Michael Bennett life experience,
his beliefs, his attitudes, his ideology. And I understand the
sheep's clothing thing, but but I think a good GOP
candidate is going to be able to unmass that.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
He's not a Native Colorado. Not that you have to be,
but he's not, so he doesn't have that box check.
Other than that too, Dan, you know he comes from
you don't call white privilege. He comes from just privilege
of East Coast Ivy League education, silverspoon in his mouth,
you know, that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Which would be absolutely fine with me if he was
one of those people who came from all that silverspoon
privilege and then dedicated their life to helping other people.
But he hasn't done that because I got nothing against that. Listen,
no matter what your background is, or who your daddy
was or anything like that, all the matters is what
you have done with your life.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And who you are now.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And you know it's true, Ryan, because you and I
are rock rib blue collar guys, and we are proud
of that upbringing him. We're grateful for it. Wouldn't have
it any other way. The greatest parents, the greatest upbringing
in the world. But we both know plenty of people
who were born into privilege like that and then they
devoted their lives to helping other people.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Right, he ain't one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
He is a far lefty of privilege by privilege for privilege,
trying to pull a con on the people of Colorado.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
And just look at his resume if you want to
look for experience and accomplishments. What happened to the schools
under his watch where he was superintendent?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, he is the least accomplished person to ever run
for that office that I know of, of people who
have had opportunities. I mean, you know, he's been in
the US Senate for years. What has he accomplished? And
if he's going to run on what he accomplished at DPS,
might as well forfeit the race to whoever the GOP
nominee is.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Right, would you say Phil Wiser is more accomplished than
Michael Bennett?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You know, No, No, I wouldn't in this sense. Okay, listen,
I mean Phil Wiser has done some things.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He's an impressive.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Cat in his own way in that kind of far
left world. I mean, with Phil Wiser, at least you
can look at him and say, if I remember right,
I think Phil Wiser was a US Supreme Court clerk,
you know, I think for a couple of different justices, correct,
And so I would never I would never say phil
Wiser is an unaccomplished person at all, because of you
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don't get those kind of jobs unless you have worked
your tail off for it and unless you have some
real high level ability. Now, unfortunately phil Wiser is a
lefty and so those ideas are bad for this. But
I wouldn't no, I wouldn't say he's an unaccomplished guy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
He went out, he worked as tail That was my question.
He got those jobs?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Is he phil Wiser more accomplished? Does he have more
accomplishments than Senator Michael Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, yes, says yes, infinitely more. Now listen, what has
he done as AG. He's running as a people's lawyer.
Give me a break. A pro tip to phil Wiser.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know you want to be the people's lawyer. You
want to call yourself the people's lawyer. Go to friggin court.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You want to call yourself the people's lawyer. You gotta
go to court. You have to man up, you have
to have the guts, you gotta walk through that gate,
and you gotta stand up there in front of the
world and expose yourself to a big fight.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And go fight for the people.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You cannot be the people's lawyer from the Ivory Tower.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But in terms of accomplishment, you have Phil Wiser, an
accomplished person. As a g I would say not, but
he's an accomplished person.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Michael Bennett's just.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Nobody has ever done less with more than Michael Bennett.
I'm sure he's a great guy, great father, great husband,
all that fun stuff beautiful. I like to think of
myself as a great father and a great husband. But
it doesn't mean I should replace jokicch in the lineup tonight.
You know, you got to have the skill set for
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the job and just shockingly unaccomplished. But it does look
like the Democrat establishment is lining up behind him.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So what do you think. How long is Wiser in
the race?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
It's looking more and more Dan, Jason Crowe, Joe no Goose,
Mike Johnston, other Democratic dignitaries, if you want to call
them that. In the state of Colorado, they're all lining
up behind Michael Bennett. And I can't think of one
that's come out and endorsed Phil Wiser unless you can.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, And I think he runs them out. I mean
hard to say, but he may run him out pretty quickly.
And again I go back to I go back to
the the fact that all these Democrats assume that the
Democrat's going to be governor. So they all assume that
Bennett's going to be governor. And they all assume then
that somebody is going to be appointed to fill out
the last two years of Bennett's term, and they all
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assume that person's then going to be a US Senator
for a long time. So that's this entitlement elitist kind
of assumption you've got going on the left. So Phil
Wiser may very well fall into line with all those
people now who are going to be kissing body parts
trying to line up to get appointed to Michael Bennett's
last two years.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And if you're.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Wiser sitting there right now, you can see the writing
on the wall here right, and you probably see your
money starting to dry up.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And then what happens You.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Start to think, well, wait a second, if I pull
out and back Bennett now, then maybe I'm the lead
horse in that race to get appointed to his seat.
And so maybe that causes a quick withdrawal here for
Phil Wiser.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And all I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Saying is this is a guy the Republicans can beat,
and they need to beat. I mean, wow, just when
you think it can't get any worse than Jared Polis,
it could.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It could in the form of Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Dan am I mistaken or isn't governor a statewide elective office.
Bennett's even slapping his fellow Senator Higginlooper in the face.
I suspect Corey Gardner spent more time in the state
in one term.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
That from Peter in the Springs, and he's right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And this goes to some fun sound you have to
hear Rob Dawson from the News or mess Bennett a
very simple, fair question.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Hey, some people say you're not in the state that much.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Bennett gets agitated with him and then says something provably false,
say they don't spend.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That time in the state, and some people may not
really know you.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You feel like, I think that's just absolute nonsense. There
isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado that
I have as.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
A state wide office holder.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh mg, And again this is like the first day
of the race, eighty degree day, beautiful Denver.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Here's the thing. Bennett can't take a.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Punch, None of these democrats can. I'm talking rhetorically of course, right,
because they've lived in this protective media bubble where no
criticism is allowed, no tough questions.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are allowed, etc.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And I'm sure he plans to go through this race
the exact same way, just insulated by the Colorado media,
all of his money, everything else. But again, and I'd
like to know from somebody literally, Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter.
Has anybody ever done less with more than Michael Bennett?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What is he actually accomplished?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And governor a hands on job, Right, You've got a multitask,
you got a lot to deal with, You've got these
crisis you've got emergencies, you've got statewide emergencies.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What has he ever accomplished? You're on the Dan Kepler.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Thing Wired, and that he's going to be their nominee.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I say to you, he is one of the
last people in America who should be the governor of
the great state of Colorado. And truly ask yourself this, literally,
who has ever done less with more than Michael Bennett. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line and welcome Congressman Jeff
Heard back to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Congressman. How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Hey Dan, greeting from Rifle.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, boyd, what a beautiful day there. Huh.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
It's gorgeous out here on the western slope. I got
back home late last night, and I've already been up
in northwest Colorado today in Massa County and making my
way back home. But it's gorgeous. It's this is the
real Colorado out here in the west.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's unbelievable, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We have this little cabin I go to to prepare
for trials, and I've been up there all week until
last night, and it was so hard to leave because,
as you know, spring is sprung right, and so the
elk are like making their way up to the cabin
with every bit of melting snow, just looking for the
new grass. And it's just so incredible. But nice to
be at a breakaway from that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
To spend some time with us.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So you made news during the week talking about tariff,
So give everybody, if you would, your take on teriffs.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah. So, Dan, first of all, I fully support President
Trump's efforts to onshore domestic manufacturing, primarily the critical manufacturing
that's essential for economic security, for national security, beating China,
growing American jobs, making sure that other countries aren't discriminating
against us when it comes to buying American goods. But
I'm a constitutional conservative, and so under Article one, Section
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eight of the Constitution, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Clear that Congress has the tariff.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Power, and so I have some legislation that would just
ensure Congress has a role when it comes to implementing
tariff policy and making sure that we do it strategically
and thoughtfully in a way that benefits America. So that's
probably what folks have been seen in the news, but
it's part of a broader agenda that we're working on
dan with the President, with Republicans, delivering on the things
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that we promised when we were running, and I'm excited
to be a part of it, and we're making good progress.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, everybody takes an old poll of the Constitution, right,
and so everybody's going to act in accordance with that.
But as you've acknowledged, the president's not acting unconstitutionally. I
believe at this point Congress has ceeded certain power, so
as I understand, So could you explain to folks kind
of how presidents from both parties ended up with this
tariff power.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Well, there's lots of different provisions in federal law that
where Congress has farmed out the tariff authority. The specific
law that the president is using is the International Economic
Emergency Powers.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Acted in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
And that is a statute that allows the president to
address certain situations. And one of the things I'm looking
at from my perspective of the member of Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Is just making sure that when the President is Actress.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
As an authority understatutory law, that Congress has delegated that authority,
and some of the stuff we're seen now may go
beyond that, and I just want to make sure that
one of the ways that we address the abuses that
are happening comes with congressional authority. And so that's what
my statute would do, would just restore that proper balance
with the legislative branch, consistent again with Article one, Section
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eight of the Constitution, which is pretty clear that these
powers are with the legislative branch.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Congressman Jeff heard our guests, and then Congressman how would
that work as a practical matter, would would every tariff
then have to be approved by a majority vote in Congress,
would the Senate have any role?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How would all that work?
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Well, the way the legislation that we're looking at is contemplating,
and as you know legislative processes, this is just the
start and so it's subject to change through the legislative process.
But it would do two things fundamentally, well three things.
First of all, if there's anti if there's dumping, if
another country is dumping it's good the products into our country,
then the President congestion.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Latterly take action. Congress just delegates that.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
The second thing that would do is it would just
require the President to notify an individual sorry, Congress, it's
implementing an individual teriff or set of tariffs.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And the third thing that would do is it just
bese Congress the.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Ability within a sixty day window to look at those
tariffs and determine if they're consistent with the strategic interests
of our country. And again that's something that I take seriously,
and to me, this isn't a political issue, Dan, it's
something as a constitutional conservative, you know, I think Congress
is sometimes given away too much of its power and
we need to make sure that we do our job
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as legislators. And this is consistent with the promises I
made when I was campaigning protect the Constitution and.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
The people of the third Congressional District.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Congressman Jeff heard our guest, and what do you think
the vote would be right now in Congress on the
president's current tariff moves?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Well, I think it depends on what part of the
tariffs you're talking about, Dan. Certainly when it comes to China,
I think that would be pretty overwhelming. We need to
disconnect ourselves from that country. Their ability to choke us
when it comes to not only manufacturing but also critical
minerals is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's scary, I'll tell you.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
As a member of Congress now and seeing some of
the things that I see even in my committee that
you wouldn't think are specifically related to China, like natural resources,
you just realize what a critical choke point China is
and how they can basically, you know, put their hands
around our throats when it comes to critical manufacturing. So
with respect countries like China, Dan, it would be overwhelming,
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I would imagine.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and you wish your hope so right, because I mean,
you think about everything you just said, which is true,
and then on top of that, China is conducting chemical
warfare in my view, against our country by this flow
of fentanyl. To me, that's a form of chemical warfare.
So I am glad to hear you say.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That, and listen.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I mean, I respect the courage it takes to do
what you're doing right now. I happen to personally believe
that Trump is a master at using leverage to create
deal making opportunities. And it's going to be rough, but
America is going to come out far better off for
the long term because of what he's doing. But it
takes courage to stand up as you are and say, hey,
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you know, my view of the Constitution is wait a second,
this needs to be with Congress. So no, I appreciate
you having the conversation.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well thanks, Dan, And you know, look, it's interesting you
make news when you have you know, when you disagree
with somebody and something, at least a.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Particular point of it.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
But on the vast majority of things, I think you
look at the votes that I've taken, Dan, when it
comes to some during the border, you know, keeping men
out of women's sports, all of those things. I've been
a consistent conservative and advancing the president's agenda and all
the things that we as Republicans promise when we were running.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I don't think there is any doubt about that.
But hey, appreciate the time today and hope you enjoy
this beautiful spring weekend.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Thanks so much, Dan, take care and hello and all
your listeners. I hope they have a great weekend as well.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Thank you, my friend you take care. That is that
Congressman Jeff Hurt. So, yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Interesting to see where that goes long term.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
If Congress is going to take back more of the
tariff power. My guess is that it probably depends on
how this all plays out, right, And I think this
is all going to play out very well, and then
there will not be the will in Congress to take
on President Trump on this. And it'd be interesting to
see where President Trump came down on all of that.
(25:25):
Let's say, if Congress says, hey, we want more of
this back whatever. I haven't heard him speak to that.
I've just seen him use the power that he has
been given and I think he's using it very effectively.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And the beautiful thing about this.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Ryan, right, it's just like sports. At the end of it,
you point to the scoreboard, that's right. And listen, the
end of it isn't each day in the stock market, right,
So the day it went up, you know, twelve percent
in the Nasdak, you don't point to that day and say, see,
we're right. We want you point to that day and say, Okay,
this is a positive.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Indicator along the way.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But the scoreboard that's going to matter is going to
be the scoreboard after this deal with China is cut,
and there will be a deal with China cut. Yeah,
there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
The Trump administration reportedly is waiting for China to call
them that the Trump administration doesn't want to initiate that call,
but however it gets there. I'm with you, Dan, You
and I have been on the same page throughout this,
which is we are willing not only to give Donald
Trump the benefit of the doubt, but to trust him
on this because he's been so successful before, because he
knows business so well.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
The art of the deal.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Literally that the political capital he has spent here, I
think it is well invested, u pun intended, and that
there will be a return on that investment that you
talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
To me, it'd be crazy not to trust him on this. Right,
because everything you just said. But then you look at
his motives, right, and we all know how Trump is
driven to win, and he's not going to launch something
like this unless he's very, very confident he has a
plan that's going to succeed for all of America. He
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wouldn't jeopardize himself that way. He wouldn't jeopardize his legacy
that way, certainly, not after everything that he's been through.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And then you look at.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
His history, his history of success in his first term,
you know with economically obviously COVID upended things at the end.
But I just have every reason to believe one thing
for sure, And I don't think there's any logical argument
against this that I've seen. Anyway, America is going to
come out in a better place then it went into
this fight, right, It couldn't get much worse than where
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we're at going into the fight. We're going to come
out in a better place. The question is how much
better and how do you quantify it?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
In at the end, but we're going to come out
in a better place. You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Show and now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Kid Me Wow, I hope you enjoy every minute of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Three or three someone three eight two five five the
number text d an five seven seven three nine. A
really important day politically because Michael Bennett announced no big
deal that was expected, But what was really important was
Joe Negose was there. So it's clear now as we expected,
no Goose not getting in the race. So it appears
this thing is probably wired for Bennett. So how quickly
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then does Wiser get out? Because he's going to hope
to be among those considered to be appointed to Bennett's
Senate seat if Bennett's elected governor. And then that brings
us back to Michael Bennett. And truly, truly, he is
one of the last people in America who should be
elected governor of Colorado. I mean ask yourself this, I
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mean literally, who has ever done less with more all
these years as a US Senator, the power of that platform,
everything else, what has the guy accomplished? He just he
doesn't have the skills to be governor. He doesn't have
those abilities. He doesn't have the ability to be impactful,
he doesn't have the ability to lead, he doesn't have
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the ability to get things done. And I don't care.
I mean, obviously, I don't want any lefty in that office.
But the job a governor is different. You have to
have those skills for this state to be able to function,
and he's got none of them.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He's proven he has none of them.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And then today he kept for those people say, well,
at least he has a mild temperament. Really, I mean,
today he's questioned by Rob Dawson from our newsroom, and
Rob's the most down the middle, level headed journalist you're
gonna find. And he asked ben At a simple question, Hey,
there's some criticism. You haven't been in the state that much.
And then bet it becomes a little irritated with him,
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but more importantly, just kind of panics and says something
provably like looney and false, say they don't send it.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Up fine in the state, and some people may not
really know you.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
If you feel like I think that's just absolute nonsense.
There isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado
that I have as a statewide elected official.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Appear really, I mean, that's just the kind of like
crazy talk, right. But the more important point is because
we can almost speak at times just one little question
like that, and he's not able to handle it now
that that's not a guy who can be governor. So yeah, yeah,
there there is an opportunity here three or three someone
three eight two five five takes d A N five
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seven seven through nine. Dan, I no longer live in Colorado,
so I no longer care. A mistake there, big mistake
because listen, no matter where you live in this country,
if a Republican can break through and win in the
Colorado governor's race or the Colorado US Senate race, that
has an impact to certainly a mega impact in Colorado,
that'd be tipping point, but that has an impact beyond Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dan, Heidi Ganal should run again. Yeah, Heidi is awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And I expect we're going to have multiple really impressive
people in that GOP primary for governor.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Did you know Michael Bennett's deputy superintendent when and Bennett
was a DPS. Tom Boseberg is Judge Bosberg's brother. It's
a big club.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And you ain't in it. That's from Alexa.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, you are right about I'm not in it, and
really nobody else is. And that's the thing is is
Bennett is just a true elitist. He's a true East
Coast elitist born into it. Now, as we talked about earlier,
I never judged somebody on the circumstances they're born into.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I judge them on what they've done with it.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
So you got some people who are born into this
high society, silver spoon elitism.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Thing, who go on to dedicate their lives.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To serving others and helping others, And I admire that
the heck got them. And then you've got other people
who don't. And that's where we get Michael Bennett. And
you come back to how could you accomplish so little?
How could anybody with the US Senate seat so many texts?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Today?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan, people fired up on a beautiful Friday. Dan Bennett
cannot govern without Schumer telling them.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It was it? Electing Bennett to become of Colorado is
like electing Schumer to be governor of Colorado?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right or AOC?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, what's the difference, though it'd probably be more Schumer?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Dan for governor? Dan?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Nobody can debate you. Please come dice him up, Dan,
Please earn for governor. You will kick his blank.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I would be proud to vote for you as our
next governor. Thank you, No, code, Dan, Dan, Ryan, where
can I find Michael Bennett interview with Rob Dawson. We
need to find it right because Rob says Bennett also
said he's going to be the one to appoint his
successor in the US Senate that fill that last two
turns talk about entitled talk about entitlement, Ryan Verry smart,
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very smart, but just talk about this elitist entitlement. That
and again, the people elected him. The people elected him
to serve as US Senator. But he's not going to
leave that job, not to run for governor. He's going
to keep that job even though he won't be able
to do it. It just goes to that whole entitlement thing.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Months ago, I texted you, this is your time governor
Capitalist sounds great to me.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm again volunteering my help. Don.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think you've Donna. That is very very kind, Dan.
Are you making a surprise announcement Monday? I thought of
Mike Kaufman for governor, but you could do it. I'm
not making a surprise announcement Monday, but thank you for
thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Dan, that's a fantastic idea. You need to run for governor.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You have more pride in this state than half the
people here. And that's coming from a guy who's a
sixth generation Colorado and my great great great grandparents got
here in eighteen sixty. We had a dairy farm where
the polo club is right now. Wow, incredibly, those are
lucky people, Dan, Are there any good Republicans running for governor? Or?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Is this just a lost cause?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I expect there will be many good Republicans running for governor,
don't you?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Ryan Scott Bottoms is running. I remember the house.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I bet there are a lot of talented people is running.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Those are two that I know of.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, I think there'll be a lot of impressive people.
It might be one of those races where somebody wins
the nomination with a relatively small percentage of the vote
because there are so many good candidates. But I think
that there will be. Hey, have a tremendous weekend, my
friend Days night for us. We're going to our first
Nuggets game in a long time, so very much looking forward.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
We go to everyone eacly win this time.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I think the Mojo's back will find out tonight, Kelly,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Hope everybody has a great, safe weekend. Join us Monday
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way is that Michael Bennett should not be the governor
of Colorado, and it looks today as if he's likely
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to be the Democrat nominee. He announced today most critically,
though Joe Negoose was there to back him, and no
Goose could have the nomination if he wanted it. And
so the sense that I get right now is that
this thing is probably wired for Bennett. It'll be interesting
to see if Wiser even stays in the race, because
what's going to happen now is if it looks like
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Bennett is the likely nominee, then at that point you're
going to have all of these people engaging in body
part kissing to try to position themselves, you know, to
then be appointed to be Bennett's successor in the US
Senate in the last two years of his term, should
Bennett win.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So, if this is.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Headed the direction it appears to be at this point,
and the Democrat nominee is going to be Michael Bennett.
I think it is fair to say he is one
of the last people on the face of the earth
who should be the governor of Colorado. I mean, you
look at this state right now, and you look at
everything that we're up against, and whoever it is, you know,
whichever party, you need somebody with ability. You need somebody
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who has the skill set and the tools to actually
go out and get things done. Nobody has ever done
less with more in the US Senate than Michael Bennett. Ryan,
could you trademark that just in case.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I like that? Okay, thank you, But it's true.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm sure he's a nice guy, and I'm sure he's
a great dad.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Now I'm not saying he's a bad human. I'm saying
he's one.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Of the worst possible people on earth to serve as
governor of Colorado. So not only do you have a
guy who demonstrably he's proven it, he lacks the skill
set necessary for this job. I consider myself a nice guy.
I consider myself somebody who has some skills. But I
will not I will not be a small forward for
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the Denver Nuggets tonight. I just don't have the skills
necessary for that job. I would be a better small
forward for the Nuggets than Bennett would be governor of
the state of Colorado. And truly, all of these years
in the Senate, what has he accomplished. Not only has
he not accomplished anything, he hasn't even had any impact.
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But beyond that, here's the worst part of all. His
ideas are horrible. If he was able to accomplish the
things he believed in, it would be terrible for this day.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
This is a guy Ryan. Shouldn't somebody be able.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
To win the race on this alone? Oh, by the way,
this is all you have to say. At the debate,
maybe two things right. He voted against the Lake and
Riley Act. I mean, this is a guy who for
years has done things that have made it very hard,
if not impossible, to deport illegal aliens who commit crimes.
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This is a guy who wants a wide open border.
This is a guy who mocked the idea of Trump's
wall at the border. This guy is so far left.
And I understand the sheep's clothing kind of thing, but
I think people right now are so upset about what
Bennett and the rest of these lefties engineered at the
border and all the criminals who float in all the
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TDA stuff in Colorado night right now, because of Bennett
and people like him, I don't think people are in
the mood for the moderate act from a guy who
has proven through all these things he said and all
these votes he's cast, including against the Lake and Riley Act,
how radically pro illegal immigrant, how radically pro criminal illegal.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Immigrant he is.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
So yeah, this guy should not be governor three or
three someone three eight, two, five five. And then we
get to temperament, right, because you may be saying yourself, well, Okay,
he's got all these bad ideas and he doesn't have
the skills, and he's really unaccomplished.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
But now he's he's got the right temperament. No, he doesn't.
I mean this is typical.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
This is like Polis, This is like so many of
these other Democrats, like Bennet himself, all of these people
who live in this media bubble where they're protected, right,
they're not fighters. They can't take a punch, and so
if they ever had the ability to, they've lost it.
Those muscles have just gone flabby because they just don't
allow themselves to be challenged. And we've seen that over
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and over again with these Colorado Democrats. When they go
out in the real world, they get out, they get
out of the bubble. So here is Michael Bennett today.
I mean, it's all controlled right, this is his announcement.
It's not a debate somewhere, and the most mild mannered,
down the middle reporter you will ever find, Rob Dawson
from the eight fifty KOA Newsroom, asks him a very
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simple questionquestion about a criticism that he's not in the
state often enough. Now listen for two things. Listen for
the tone and listen for the substance, because on tone
you'll hear him become immediately very agitated over a pretty simple,
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fair question, and then he says stuff that just isn't true.
So he flips out over a question like this.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
By your critics say they don't spend enough time in
the state and some people may not really know you.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Do you feel like, I think that's just absolute nonsense.
There isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado
that I have as a state wide elected official.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Unbelievable. He gets agitated and.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
As that's absolute nonsense, and then says something provably false.
No state wide elected officials spent more time in the
state than he has just nonsense stuff. So this is
going to beautiful, right, And that's on the first day
of the campaign, before it even starts to get rough.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So listen, I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Want any of these lefties as governor, okay, because their
ideas are so bad. But when you're governor, it's not
like when you're senator, and okay, you occupy that space.
And he's a reliable vote for the far left in
his party and he doesn't have the skills or influence
to get anything done, so he's otherwise kind of a
waste of space. You know, all right, you'd rather have
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a conservative, you'd rather have a Republican. But at that point,
at least he's a lefty who's not doing much harm
because he doesn't have the skill and ability to But
if you're governor, the state needs you to be good.
And if it's gonna be a lefty who's elected, you
still need somebody who's got the skills and ability and
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leadership qualities and persuasive a abilities to lead the state
through some of the tough times, disasters, et cetera. That
every state experience is the last thing you need is
a guy like this who just doesn't have the skills
and is thoroughly unaccomplished in public life. Three or three
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someone three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine Texters are fired up this afternoon,
Dan aoc absence of capability that from No Code Dan,
I would respectfully disagree. I think she's capable of doing
great things for the right and has done that consistently.
Dan for governor exclamation point, Dan, nobody can debate you.
(07:38):
Come on, Please dice him up, Dan, Please learn'n for governor.
You will kick his word. We can't say on air, Dan,
I'd be proud of vote for you as our next governor.
No Code Dan, Thank you then, man, that is that
makes my day. Thank you for that and appreciate that
very much. What do other folks have to say today?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Dan? Or Ryan?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Where can I find Michael Bennett interview with Rob Dawson?
Is that full thing posted?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I need to ask? Yeah, I think he probably is,
but I'll text Robert.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Let's get that.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Because also Rob told me that as I mentioned that,
Bennett's saying he's going to appoint his successor to the
US Senate. And this is another reason Bennett should not
be governor. My lord man, you talk about oblivious, mister oblivious,
it's not mister oblivious, it's mister rich and titled guy.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right. So you grow up in d stc.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Among the aloof Democrat elite, and that's how he grew
up as a kid, and you just get this entitlement attitude.
So think about this full of blank entitlement attitude that
he has. All Right, he gets elected to a US
Senate seat by the people of Colorado. What did they
elect him to do? To go work for him? So
now he's going to spend the next couple of years
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running for governor. But is he going to leave the
US Senate so somebody can be there doing that job.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, he's not going to do that. He's not going
to do.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That because what if he loses the race for governor. Right,
So he's not going to do that. He's going to
hold onto that seat while he's back here running for governor.
And then he tells Rob Dawson says, he said he
Michael Bennett plans to appoint his successor. Think about that arrogant,
elitist royal attitude. That is, so he's not going to
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do the job that people elected him to do. He's
going to hold onto that job so he can then
decide who succeeds him rather than Jared poulis remarkable, But
that is the attitude and that that should help somebody
beat Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, we all we all have some of our playlists, right,
we all have that kind of pump up list that
you play when you have to pump up.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And I've got mine for going to court.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And well do you think Michael Bennett plays to get
himself pumped up? Dan?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I said it without my kind of opera, you know,
some kind of I'm going to go with a music thing.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You talk about a guy who should be the last
guy to be governor of the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Can you imagine anybody who's more out of touch with
the real people of Colorado than Michael Bennett life experience,
his beliefs, his attitudes, his ideology. And I understand the
sheep's clothing thing, but but I think a good GOP
candidate is going to be able to unmass that.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
He's not a Native Colorado. Not that you have to be,
but he's not, so he doesn't have that box check.
Other than that too, Dan, you know he comes from
you don't call white privilege. He comes from just privilege
of East Coast Ivy League education, silverspoon in his mouth,
you know, that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Which would be absolutely fine with me if he was
one of those people who came from all that silverspoon
privilege and then dedicated their life to helping other people.
But he hasn't done that because I got nothing against that. Listen,
no matter what your background is, or who your daddy
was or anything like that, all the matters is what
you have done with your life.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And who you are now.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And you know it's true, Ryan, because you and I
are rock rib blue collar guys, and we are proud
of that upbringing him. We're grateful for it. Wouldn't have
it any other way. The greatest parents, the greatest upbringing
in the world. But we both know plenty of people
who were born into privilege like that and then they
devoted their lives to helping other people.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Right, he ain't one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
He is a far lefty of privilege by privilege for privilege,
trying to pull a con on the people of Colorado.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
And just look at his resume if you want to
look for experience and accomplishments. What happened to the schools
under his watch where he was superintendent?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, he is the least accomplished person to ever run
for that office that I know of, of people who
have had opportunities. I mean, you know, he's been in
the US Senate for years. What has he accomplished? And
if he's going to run on what he accomplished at DPS,
might as well forfeit the race to whoever the GOP
nominee is.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Right, would you say Phil Wiser is more accomplished than
Michael Bennett?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You know, No, No, I wouldn't in this sense. Okay, listen,
I mean Phil Wiser has done some things.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
He's an impressive.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Cat in his own way in that kind of far
left world. I mean, with Phil Wiser, at least you
can look at him and say, if I remember right,
I think Phil Wiser was a US Supreme Court clerk,
you know, I think for a couple of different justices, correct,
And so I would never I would never say phil
Wiser is an unaccomplished person at all, because of you
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don't get those kind of jobs unless you have worked
your tail off for it and unless you have some
real high level ability. Now, unfortunately phil Wiser is a
lefty and so those ideas are bad for this. But
I wouldn't no, I wouldn't say he's an unaccomplished guy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
He went out, he worked as tail That was my question.
He got those jobs?
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Is he phil Wiser more accomplished? Does he have more
accomplishments than Senator Michael Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, yes, says yes, infinitely more. Now listen, what has
he done as AG. He's running as a people's lawyer.
Give me a break. A pro tip to phil Wiser.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You know you want to be the people's lawyer. You
want to call yourself the people's lawyer. Go to friggin court.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
You want to call yourself the people's lawyer. You gotta
go to court. You have to man up, you have
to have the guts, you gotta walk through that gate,
and you gotta stand up there in front of the
world and expose yourself to a big fight.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And go fight for the people.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You cannot be the people's lawyer from the Ivory Tower.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But in terms of accomplishment, you have Phil Wiser, an
accomplished person. As a g I would say not, but
he's an accomplished person.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Michael Bennett's just.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Nobody has ever done less with more than Michael Bennett.
I'm sure he's a great guy, great father, great husband,
all that fun stuff beautiful. I like to think of
myself as a great father and a great husband. But
it doesn't mean I should replace jokicch in the lineup tonight.
You know, you got to have the skill set for
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the job and just shockingly unaccomplished. But it does look
like the Democrat establishment is lining up behind him.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So what do you think. How long is Wiser in
the race?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
It's looking more and more Dan, Jason Crowe, Joe no Goose,
Mike Johnston, other Democratic dignitaries, if you want to call
them that. In the state of Colorado, they're all lining
up behind Michael Bennett. And I can't think of one
that's come out and endorsed Phil Wiser unless you can.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, And I think he runs them out. I mean
hard to say, but he may run him out pretty quickly.
And again I go back to I go back to
the the fact that all these Democrats assume that the
Democrat's going to be governor. So they all assume that
Bennett's going to be governor. And they all assume then
that somebody is going to be appointed to fill out
the last two years of Bennett's term, and they all
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assume that person's then going to be a US Senator
for a long time. So that's this entitlement elitist kind
of assumption you've got going on the left. So Phil
Wiser may very well fall into line with all those
people now who are going to be kissing body parts
trying to line up to get appointed to Michael Bennett's
last two years.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And if you're.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Wiser sitting there right now, you can see the writing
on the wall here right, and you probably see your
money starting to dry up.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And then what happens You.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Start to think, well, wait a second, if I pull
out and back Bennett now, then maybe I'm the lead
horse in that race to get appointed to his seat.
And so maybe that causes a quick withdrawal here for
Phil Wiser.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And all I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Saying is this is a guy the Republicans can beat,
and they need to beat. I mean, wow, just when
you think it can't get any worse than Jared Polis,
it could.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It could in the form of Michael Bennett.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Dan am I mistaken or isn't governor a statewide elective office.
Bennett's even slapping his fellow Senator Higginlooper in the face.
I suspect Corey Gardner spent more time in the state
in one term.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
That from Peter in the Springs, and he's right.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And this goes to some fun sound you have to
hear Rob Dawson from the News or mess Bennett a
very simple, fair question.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Hey, some people say you're not in the state that much.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Bennett gets agitated with him and then says something provably false,
say they don't spend.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
That time in the state, and some people may not
really know you.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
You feel like, I think that's just absolute nonsense. There
isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado that
I have as.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
A state wide office holder.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Oh mg, And again this is like the first day
of the race, eighty degree day, beautiful Denver.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Here's the thing. Bennett can't take a.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Punch, None of these democrats can. I'm talking rhetorically of course, right,
because they've lived in this protective media bubble where no
criticism is allowed, no tough questions.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are allowed, etc.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And I'm sure he plans to go through this race
the exact same way, just insulated by the Colorado media,
all of his money, everything else. But again, and I'd
like to know from somebody literally, Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter.
Has anybody ever done less with more than Michael Bennett?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
What is he actually accomplished?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
And governor a hands on job, Right, You've got a multitask,
you got a lot to deal with, You've got these
crisis you've got emergencies, you've got statewide emergencies.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
What has he ever accomplished? You're on the Dan Kepler.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Thing Wired, and that he's going to be their nominee.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I say to you, he is one of the
last people in America who should be the governor of
the great state of Colorado. And truly ask yourself this, literally,
who has ever done less with more than Michael Bennett. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line and welcome Congressman Jeff
Heard back to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Congressman. How you doing, my friend?
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Hey Dan, greeting from Rifle.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, boyd, what a beautiful day there. Huh.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
It's gorgeous out here on the western slope. I got
back home late last night, and I've already been up
in northwest Colorado today in Massa County and making my
way back home. But it's gorgeous. It's this is the
real Colorado out here in the west.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's unbelievable, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
We have this little cabin I go to to prepare
for trials, and I've been up there all week until
last night, and it was so hard to leave because,
as you know, spring is sprung right, and so the
elk are like making their way up to the cabin
with every bit of melting snow, just looking for the
new grass. And it's just so incredible. But nice to
be at a breakaway from that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
To spend some time with us.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So you made news during the week talking about tariff,
So give everybody, if you would, your take on teriffs.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Yeah. So, Dan, first of all, I fully support President
Trump's efforts to onshore domestic manufacturing, primarily the critical manufacturing
that's essential for economic security, for national security, beating China,
growing American jobs, making sure that other countries aren't discriminating
against us when it comes to buying American goods. But
I'm a constitutional conservative, and so under Article one, Section
(19:41):
eight of the Constitution, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Clear that Congress has the tariff.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Power, and so I have some legislation that would just
ensure Congress has a role when it comes to implementing
tariff policy and making sure that we do it strategically
and thoughtfully in a way that benefits America. So that's
probably what folks have been seen in the news, but
it's part of a broader agenda that we're working on
dan with the President, with Republicans, delivering on the things
(20:05):
that we promised when we were running, and I'm excited
to be a part of it, and we're making good progress.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, everybody takes an old poll of the Constitution, right,
and so everybody's going to act in accordance with that.
But as you've acknowledged, the president's not acting unconstitutionally. I
believe at this point Congress has ceeded certain power, so
as I understand, So could you explain to folks kind
of how presidents from both parties ended up with this
tariff power.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Well, there's lots of different provisions in federal law that
where Congress has farmed out the tariff authority. The specific
law that the president is using is the International Economic
Emergency Powers.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Acted in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
And that is a statute that allows the president to
address certain situations. And one of the things I'm looking
at from my perspective of the member of Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Is just making sure that when the President is Actress.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
As an authority understatutory law, that Congress has delegated that authority,
and some of the stuff we're seen now may go
beyond that, and I just want to make sure that
one of the ways that we address the abuses that
are happening comes with congressional authority. And so that's what
my statute would do, would just restore that proper balance
with the legislative branch, consistent again with Article one, Section
(21:21):
eight of the Constitution, which is pretty clear that these
powers are with the legislative branch.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Congressman Jeff heard our guests, and then Congressman how would
that work as a practical matter, would would every tariff
then have to be approved by a majority vote in Congress,
would the Senate have any role?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How would all that work?
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Well, the way the legislation that we're looking at is contemplating,
and as you know legislative processes, this is just the
start and so it's subject to change through the legislative process.
But it would do two things fundamentally, well three things.
First of all, if there's anti if there's dumping, if
another country is dumping it's good the products into our country,
then the President congestion.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Latterly take action. Congress just delegates that.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
The second thing that would do is it would just
require the President to notify an individual sorry, Congress, it's
implementing an individual teriff or set of tariffs.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And the third thing that would do is it just
bese Congress the.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Ability within a sixty day window to look at those
tariffs and determine if they're consistent with the strategic interests
of our country. And again that's something that I take seriously,
and to me, this isn't a political issue, Dan, it's
something as a constitutional conservative, you know, I think Congress
is sometimes given away too much of its power and
we need to make sure that we do our job
(22:36):
as legislators. And this is consistent with the promises I
made when I was campaigning protect the Constitution and.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
The people of the third Congressional District.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Congressman Jeff heard our guest, and what do you think
the vote would be right now in Congress on the
president's current tariff moves?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Well, I think it depends on what part of the
tariffs you're talking about, Dan. Certainly when it comes to China,
I think that would be pretty overwhelming. We need to
disconnect ourselves from that country. Their ability to choke us
when it comes to not only manufacturing but also critical
minerals is dangerous.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's scary, I'll tell you.
Speaker 7 (23:11):
As a member of Congress now and seeing some of
the things that I see even in my committee that
you wouldn't think are specifically related to China, like natural resources,
you just realize what a critical choke point China is
and how they can basically, you know, put their hands
around our throats when it comes to critical manufacturing. So
with respect countries like China, Dan, it would be overwhelming,
(23:31):
I would imagine.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and you wish your hope so right, because I mean,
you think about everything you just said, which is true,
and then on top of that, China is conducting chemical
warfare in my view, against our country by this flow
of fentanyl. To me, that's a form of chemical warfare.
So I am glad to hear you say.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That, and listen.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I mean, I respect the courage it takes to do
what you're doing right now. I happen to personally believe
that Trump is a master at using leverage to create
deal making opportunities. And it's going to be rough, but
America is going to come out far better off for
the long term because of what he's doing. But it
takes courage to stand up as you are and say, hey,
(24:10):
you know, my view of the Constitution is wait a second,
this needs to be with Congress. So no, I appreciate
you having the conversation.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Well thanks, Dan, And you know, look, it's interesting you
make news when you have you know, when you disagree
with somebody and something, at least a.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Particular point of it.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
But on the vast majority of things, I think you
look at the votes that I've taken, Dan, when it
comes to some during the border, you know, keeping men
out of women's sports, all of those things. I've been
a consistent conservative and advancing the president's agenda and all
the things that we as Republicans promise when we were running.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, I don't think there is any doubt about that.
But hey, appreciate the time today and hope you enjoy
this beautiful spring weekend.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Thanks so much, Dan, take care and hello and all
your listeners. I hope they have a great weekend as well.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Thank you, my friend you take care. That is that
Congressman Jeff Hurt. So, yeah, it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Interesting to see where that goes long term.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
If Congress is going to take back more of the
tariff power. My guess is that it probably depends on
how this all plays out, right, And I think this
is all going to play out very well, and then
there will not be the will in Congress to take
on President Trump on this. And it'd be interesting to
see where President Trump came down on all of that.
(25:25):
Let's say, if Congress says, hey, we want more of
this back whatever. I haven't heard him speak to that.
I've just seen him use the power that he has
been given and I think he's using it very effectively.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And the beautiful thing about this.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Ryan, right, it's just like sports. At the end of it,
you point to the scoreboard, that's right. And listen, the
end of it isn't each day in the stock market, right,
So the day it went up, you know, twelve percent
in the Nasdak, you don't point to that day and say, see,
we're right. We want you point to that day and say, Okay,
this is a positive.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Indicator along the way.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But the scoreboard that's going to matter is going to
be the scoreboard after this deal with China is cut,
and there will be a deal with China cut. Yeah,
there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
The Trump administration reportedly is waiting for China to call
them that the Trump administration doesn't want to initiate that call,
but however it gets there. I'm with you, Dan, You
and I have been on the same page throughout this,
which is we are willing not only to give Donald
Trump the benefit of the doubt, but to trust him
on this because he's been so successful before, because he
knows business so well.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
The art of the deal.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Literally that the political capital he has spent here, I
think it is well invested, u pun intended, and that
there will be a return on that investment that you
talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
To me, it'd be crazy not to trust him on this. Right,
because everything you just said. But then you look at
his motives, right, and we all know how Trump is
driven to win, and he's not going to launch something
like this unless he's very, very confident he has a
plan that's going to succeed for all of America. He
(26:58):
wouldn't jeopardize himself that way. He wouldn't jeopardize his legacy
that way, certainly, not after everything that he's been through.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And then you look at.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
His history, his history of success in his first term,
you know with economically obviously COVID upended things at the end.
But I just have every reason to believe one thing
for sure, And I don't think there's any logical argument
against this that I've seen. Anyway, America is going to
come out in a better place then it went into
this fight, right, It couldn't get much worse than where
(27:33):
we're at going into the fight. We're going to come
out in a better place. The question is how much
better and how do you quantify it?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
In at the end, but we're going to come out
in a better place. You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Show and now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Kid Me Wow, I hope you enjoy every minute of it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Three or three someone three eight two five five the
number text d an five seven seven three nine. A
really important day politically because Michael Bennett announced no big
deal that was expected, But what was really important was
Joe Negose was there. So it's clear now as we expected,
no Goose not getting in the race. So it appears
this thing is probably wired for Bennett. So how quickly
(28:19):
then does Wiser get out? Because he's going to hope
to be among those considered to be appointed to Bennett's
Senate seat if Bennett's elected governor. And then that brings
us back to Michael Bennett. And truly, truly, he is
one of the last people in America who should be
elected governor of Colorado. I mean ask yourself this, I
(28:41):
mean literally, who has ever done less with more all
these years as a US Senator, the power of that platform,
everything else, what has the guy accomplished? He just he
doesn't have the skills to be governor. He doesn't have
those abilities. He doesn't have the ability to be impactful,
he doesn't have the ability to lead, he doesn't have
(29:01):
the ability to get things done. And I don't care.
I mean, obviously, I don't want any lefty in that office.
But the job a governor is different. You have to
have those skills for this state to be able to function,
and he's got none of them.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
He's proven he has none of them.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And then today he kept for those people say, well,
at least he has a mild temperament. Really, I mean,
today he's questioned by Rob Dawson from our newsroom, and
Rob's the most down the middle, level headed journalist you're
gonna find. And he asked ben At a simple question, Hey,
there's some criticism. You haven't been in the state that much.
And then bet it becomes a little irritated with him,
(29:38):
but more importantly, just kind of panics and says something
provably like looney and false, say they don't send it.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Up fine in the state, and some people may not
really know you.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
If you feel like I think that's just absolute nonsense.
There isn't anybody who has spent more time in Colorado
that I have as a statewide elected official.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Appear really, I mean, that's just the kind of like
crazy talk, right. But the more important point is because
we can almost speak at times just one little question
like that, and he's not able to handle it now
that that's not a guy who can be governor. So yeah, yeah,
there there is an opportunity here three or three someone
three eight two five five takes d A N five
(30:22):
seven seven through nine. Dan, I no longer live in Colorado,
so I no longer care. A mistake there, big mistake
because listen, no matter where you live in this country,
if a Republican can break through and win in the
Colorado governor's race or the Colorado US Senate race, that
has an impact to certainly a mega impact in Colorado,
that'd be tipping point, but that has an impact beyond Colorado.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dan, Heidi Ganal should run again. Yeah, Heidi is awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
And I expect we're going to have multiple really impressive
people in that GOP primary for governor.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Did you know Michael Bennett's deputy superintendent when and Bennett
was a DPS. Tom Boseberg is Judge Bosberg's brother. It's
a big club.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And you ain't in it. That's from Alexa.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, you are right about I'm not in it, and
really nobody else is. And that's the thing is is
Bennett is just a true elitist. He's a true East
Coast elitist born into it. Now, as we talked about earlier,
I never judged somebody on the circumstances they're born into.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I judge them on what they've done with it.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
So you got some people who are born into this
high society, silver spoon elitism.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Thing, who go on to dedicate their lives.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
To serving others and helping others, And I admire that
the heck got them. And then you've got other people
who don't. And that's where we get Michael Bennett. And
you come back to how could you accomplish so little?
How could anybody with the US Senate seat so many texts?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Today?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Ryan, people fired up on a beautiful Friday. Dan Bennett
cannot govern without Schumer telling them.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
What to do?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It was it? Electing Bennett to become of Colorado is
like electing Schumer to be governor of Colorado?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right or AOC?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean, what's the difference, though it'd probably be more Schumer?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Dan?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Dan for governor? Dan?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Nobody can debate you. Please come dice him up, Dan,
Please earn for governor. You will kick his blank.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I would be proud to vote for you as our
next governor. Thank you, No, code, Dan, Dan, Ryan, where
can I find Michael Bennett interview with Rob Dawson. We
need to find it right because Rob says Bennett also
said he's going to be the one to appoint his
successor in the US Senate that fill that last two
turns talk about entitled talk about entitlement, Ryan Verry smart,
(32:40):
very smart, but just talk about this elitist entitlement. That
and again, the people elected him. The people elected him
to serve as US Senator. But he's not going to
leave that job, not to run for governor. He's going
to keep that job even though he won't be able
to do it. It just goes to that whole entitlement thing.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Months ago, I texted you, this is your time governor
Capitalist sounds great to me.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm again volunteering my help. Don.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think you've Donna. That is very very kind, Dan.
Are you making a surprise announcement Monday? I thought of
Mike Kaufman for governor, but you could do it. I'm
not making a surprise announcement Monday, but thank you for
thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Dan, that's a fantastic idea. You need to run for governor.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You have more pride in this state than half the
people here. And that's coming from a guy who's a
sixth generation Colorado and my great great great grandparents got
here in eighteen sixty. We had a dairy farm where
the polo club is right now. Wow, incredibly, those are
lucky people, Dan, Are there any good Republicans running for governor? Or?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Is this just a lost cause?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
I expect there will be many good Republicans running for governor,
don't you?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Ryan Scott Bottoms is running. I remember the house.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I bet there are a lot of talented people is running.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Those are two that I know of.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, I think there'll be a lot of impressive people.
It might be one of those races where somebody wins
the nomination with a relatively small percentage of the vote
because there are so many good candidates. But I think
that there will be. Hey, have a tremendous weekend, my
friend Days night for us. We're going to our first
Nuggets game in a long time, so very much looking forward.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
We go to everyone eacly win this time.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I think the Mojo's back will find out tonight, Kelly,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Hope everybody has a great, safe weekend. Join us Monday
on the dan Kapla show
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