January 17, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan is at trial, so Ryan Schuiling and Kelly Kucera fill in. The tandem discusses Kristi Noem's confirmation hearing to become Donald Trump's homeland security secretary, as well as the controversial newstory about Noem killing her pet dog.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Just what's done?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can't see anything you said? Juniorsity, Yeah, that's and me.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Our quarterbacks out.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was actually varsity.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well I know that, but compared to Dano.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And I got a D one scholarship.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my god, you want to brag a little more?
Keep going?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Can I keep going? By all means that people want
to hear it. I'm sure this is what they tuned
in for.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They really do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I think they do.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Jess the sport, well.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I know that it's diving.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, damn it, you just ruined.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You thought the listeners were supposed to guess.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think you've talked about it enough on this program
that the hardcore so called p one listeners they know
that Kelly Kuchera was on the diving team for Purdue,
that you had a showdown face to face or at
least an awkward angle with Bobby Knight, who's at least
a foot taller than you, right, Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Goodnes Lord, No, a couple of feet. A couple of feet.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm just imagining little Kelly.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Back then, you would have been not much older than
Haley nice to you, to you, and you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You are very lucky.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, my teammate ran, so I was kind of there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I always loved the highlight of him being asked about
if his team had their game faces on, and he's like,
what do you mean my game face? He starts making
all these weird contorted faces, like what is the game face?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
This isn't this No, But you also have to understand
that Bobby Knight said, do you want to come in?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You should have just taken him up on it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You want to see right now? And I know I
did not. I was like, oh god, oh no. Yeah,
it was bad, but I was happy to have the
interaction because I've had interactions with other people and other celebrities.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And let's go down that road for a minute. It's
a Friday. We're going to have some fun here. I
just spoke with Caroline Ray the okay, very talented, the
legendary comedian from.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Sabrina the Teenage, which played the theme.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Song for her, played a highlight for She's at the Landmark,
a Greenwood village here just outside of Denver to the south.
That comedy works tonight and tomorrow night, and it's going
to one of the topics that you and I have
covered in the past. Do you want to meet your heroes?
And have you met your heroes? And were you disappointed
or were you encouraged? Where you reinforced like, yeah, that's
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the person I hoped that he or she would be.
Now you met Bobby Knight, I'm not sure if he
was a hero of yours. He coached your rival, right,
Jim Katy would be a hero of yours though, right
the head coach at Basket.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, but you met.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Bill Murray on an airplane and Alfo. I've heard varying
stories and accounts about Bill Murray and him not showing
up for work and people being concerned on the set
production crews Otherwise, Directors Richard Dreyfus very notoriously couldn't stand
Bill Murray on the set of What About Bob. The
tension that you watch in that movie between the two characters,
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it was real and even down to the point where
everybody kind of falls in love with Bill Murray in
the movie and Richard Dryfus's characters kind of left out
to dry Dreyfus himself felt like that during production of
that film got a call coming in we'll let Kelly
get to that. But if you've had a chance to
meet your heroes, whoever they are, could be in any realm,
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could be in politics, could be in business, could be
in pop culture, music, movies, whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, did your heroes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Disappoint you or did they fulfill what you had this expectation,
maybe this idea that you had of them when you
met them face to face. I don't know about heroes
that Barry Sanders. I'll start there, since the Lions are
playing tomorrow in the divisional round of the playoffs against
the Washington should be Redskins. And I met Barry Sanders
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as a member of the sports media in the late nineties,
and he was predictably. I thought, aloof distant, not warm,
not real, cordial, didn't really have those fine softer people skills.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But on the other end of that spectrum, I met
the great Herman Moore wide receiver from that time the
nineties with the Lions, and Herman was remarkable. And the
story I like to tell is I'm covering training camp
for the Detroit Lions. It's at Saginaw Valley State University
just up. I seventy five from Detroit. They're now in
Allen Park, but back then late nineties, they were at
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SVSU and it was early one morning. My buddy Steve
Lloyd Jones and I we'd gotten there to cover training camp.
We're like, we're gonna do this. We're gonna bring it
back to the people in Grand Rapids and we're gonna
give him live coverage. And Herman Moore was coming out
to practice and I asked him, Herman, can I pull
you aside just for an interview, just for a few minutes.
What do you laugh at a Have you never worked
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in this realm? This is what you do, this is
how it's done. You just prospect for interviews. I'm like,
I want to read Herman Moore. He's like, I can't
write now, you know what, But tell you what, first
thing tomorrow when I come out, You're the first guy
I'm going to talk to. And you're thinking, I'm twenty
three years old, I'm a rube in the media. All
these other more experienced reporters and newspaper and television and radio,
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they're there, their names, they're known quantities.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I'm thinking Herman's just being nice. He's gonna come
out tomorrow. He's gonna totally forget what he told me.
But I swear to god, there was Kurt Silvester, Mike O'Hara,
Bernie Smile of It. Those of you from Michigan know
the names I'm referencing here. But they're all waiting and
they kind of cut me off. Little twenty three year
old Rye, little Green. What behind the ears, rookie Rye,
I'm getting boxed out by these more experienced journalists, and
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I swear to god.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Herman comes out.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He goes, no, guys, no, I promised him that I
would talk to him first, and I'll come to you
when I'm done. He came over, he goes, I got
as much time as you need. And I'm like, dude,
you are awesome. I'm nobody. I'm nobody. And the greatest
part about this story. Years later, Kelly, I'm at Ford
Field and I'm covering a Lion's game in the press box.
And by this time, Herman's retired, he's a member of
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the media, and I got to go up him. I
got to tell him this story, and I did, and
a broad smile occurred on his face and he goes.
You know, I don't remember that, but I'm glad you do.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Is what he said. I got Herman.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I never forgot it, and it really told me a
lot about the kind of guy that you are. And
I just wanted you to know that I really appreciated it.
And I had my picture taken with him. That's on
Facebook if you want to stock my Facebook page might
be available to the public. But I love Herman Moore's
the bottom line to that story.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, my counter point is that I was drunk and
I told San Humphries from the Sandy Coot Chargers.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You wouldn't character but Stan Humphries is not a hero
of yours. No, he was just a public figure.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It a notable name.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I'm just saying on stories.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Here was he quarterback of the Redskins at the time,
No quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Of Sandy Gooch.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, Chargers. He took them to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know I do.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's thirty years ago. That was that ninety four season
the Chargers played the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That was before I told him to be traded.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did he get traded, I'm not sure where the story
is going. Did he get traded prior to that or
after that. No, what did he say when you said that?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
He looked at me and he said, you're very cute?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Were you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I hate you?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know you hate being cute. You hate that. But
isn't it better to be cute than not cute?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She's not cute? You don't want to hear that. No, No,
you'd rather be called not cute. Thank you cute?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Get out of here? Yeah that noise.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No, it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is there any hero of yours that you met that
you were let down? You were disappointed, really bummed out?
A notable name, name, a name people would know.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, because, I mean you talked about Bill Murray and
he was. He actually changed my life.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He did. He set you on the right path, he did.
He put you in the right mindset.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
He did.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He was very generous at this time. Oh yeah, he
was a gem. He really was to you.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, he's one of the few people I've ever heard
tell a story like that that paints him in such.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A positive light, because he's so flaky.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Otherwise, why do you say that his brother? Yeah, well no, no,
he just sees in and out. He's not reliable. People
have varying opinions of him. I happen to love him.
So Kelly's going nuts wanting to answer the phone. Well,
take this time out. You can call it an eight
five five four zero five eight two five five just
a brief aside.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We're taking a breath here.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dan Kaplis should be back by four point thirty six
or thereabouts. We're hoping you can call in with your
stories about heroes or send me a text five seven
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(10:24):
Will you end the use of the CPP want app Yes, Senator.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
If confirmed and I have the opportunity to be secretary,
on day one, CBP one will be shut down. There's
data and information in there that we will preserve so
that we can ensure we know who's coming into this
country and who's already here that we need to go find.
But also we make sure that there's another program CHMV,
which I'm sure you're very familiar with, where our federal
government actually paid to fly people into this country directly
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from other countries without any vetting or knowing who they are.
So there's several of these programs that need to be
eliminated and we need to ensure that we're following legal
immigration laws.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That is Governor Christine nom Republican South Dakota, who of
course is in the offing to be the Director of
Homeland Security and what an upgrade from Alejandro mayorcis. She
will be talking to Senator Josh Holly about the CBP
one app, which basically it's ridiculous. It allows an illegal
to cross the border as long as they have the app,
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they download where they need to go, and they can
walk about free within the country about being vetted without
getting a court date.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Just come back and check in on the app.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We'll see what happens. And Christy Nomes says that she's
going to put an end to that. And the reason
that I play Christy Nome coming out of the break,
It's going to be a little bit controversial. Kelly's already
gotten her dander up over it. I'm asking about your
heroes and if you've ever met one of them, several
of them, how that experience has gone. I give you
my example of Barry Sanders being a middle of a letdown,
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Herman Moore being an absolute saint, A jem Bill Murray
for Kelly couchera off the charts, what a guy he was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Really put her on the right path.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Just on a plane ride and we going out, Aye
and Fort Collins, who says his hero is Christinome and
he had a chance to meet her.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Wayne, Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Hey, how you doing good afternoon from South Dakota. Oh. Yes,
I had the great opportunity to retire and leave the
state of Colorado five years ago. Well now I'm up
here in the Black Hills of South Dkota.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
A lot of people would call you lies, Wayne. You
moved to a much redder state, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yes. I love it here. And in the past five
years since I've been here, I've had the opportunity to
meet our great governor twice, and she was beautiful and
friendly and nice both times. The first time I met her,
she was in actually at the Buffalo round Up if
you've ever heard of it up here?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah, she came out of a meeting and she was
kind of standing in line, and I came up there
and I said, hello, Governor home, and she reached out
through the crowd to shake my hand and had the
opportunity to get a picture with her and chatted with
her just a bit. She was running for reelection at
that time, and I know there's a lot of controversy.
Kelly kind of went off on me just a little bit.
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I don't hold her any grudges against that, but I
can just tell that she is evidently someone who's never
grown up a farm.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, and let's go down that road a little bit. Wayne,
It's been a while since we had this conversation. And
the controversy comes from a book that Christy nom wrote
about a dog that she had and it wasn't obeying orders.
I think it was too aggressive, and she decided to
take it to a gravel pit and she shot it.
And a lot of people, Kelly included, had a major
problem with that. Wayne, You do not Why not?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No, I don't, because, like I was trying to explain
to her, is I grew up on a farm. And
from the way that I got the idea from what
I heard with this dog that she had, was this
is a dog that's also mean to her children or grandchildren,
growing up on a farm. You don't, you know, just
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art your dog to the vet to have it put down.
You fuck it up and you take care of those
things yourself. I've never personally put a dog down, but
when I was probably five six years old, we had
a farm dog that ended up having to be put down.
And my dad, he had had the dog for long
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that he could, didn't have the heart to do it.
So a neighbor came over and did it for him.
And that's just the way farm life is. You know,
it's harsh. It's not all blooms and roses and everything
else like you see in the movies and downtown.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Okay, so this is Kelly, I was talking to you earlier. Yeah,
can we just takes a dog to a different place
to let it live his life?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
A mean dog like that, you cannot do it. I
know that that the present administration had two dogs that
were mean, and uh, well, where did they go? No?
I don't. I don't know where they went, whether they
went or ye, are they someplace else or they what
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about the damn goat?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
About the goat?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Okay, I'm not really up on the goat story. I
know I know it happened too, that a goat was
put down. But from from I can going back to
my dad, they had a mean goat on the farm
when he was a kid. Uh huh, and my my
grandfather was carrying two buckets of milk, you know, they
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had to go almost little house on the prairie sitting
here in South Dakota, carrying two buckets of milk to
the house, and that goat came up and knocked him down.
And the next day the goo it wasn't there, so.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
My dad was raised and born in Madison, South Dakota.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Oh. Okay, so that's that's where our daughter got married.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So great great town, oh Madison. Yeah, it's weird anyway.
Let's not kill animals, Let's kill I don't know something
from Yeah, I'm sorry, okay, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I you know, I understand people who have that opinion,
and they're they're right to have it. Actually, we've got
a little bit of a heartbreaking story in our family
just just this past week. My brother uh been married
to this lady for ten years and when they were married,
she had a little little puppy, little dopson or whatever,
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how are you pronounced it and just last week they
had to put it down, and yes it's and no
they did not take it out in the trees and
put it down. They did take it to a vent.
But yes, I can understand that. I see people's view
on that too. But those are more of a pet,
a companion and things like that, whereas a farm dog
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is is like a piece of it's a tool. And
when your tractor doesn't work anymore, your tractor's broke down,
you get rid of it, you scrap it and it's gone,
you know, or you're a piece of farm machine. So
it's a tool on the farm.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You have insurance on tractor. You don't have insurance on
the No, you don't.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Farmers don't have insurance on tractors unless they're the big
time farmers. When I was growing up, we had a
small town. It was four quarters of land, and if
your tractor was broke down and it was no good,
it got put out in the trees, put the pasture,
as they would say. Yeah, literally, you've got another one.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Wayne and Fort Collins. We thank you for relating that tale.
We hope you enjoy South Dakota. There was the novel,
the movie Old Yeller we know all about it. I
grew up in a farm town and maybe this sparks
another conversation to me. It's the circle of life, and
it's more about how it's done. And that's where I
slightly agree with Kelly on this eight five five four
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l ing Circle of Life Elton John talking about this
because my initial conversation on heroes was taken in a
different direction by Wayne and Fort Collins, who identified Christy
nom as a hero, and to Kelly and I think
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many listeners out there, well, that's a bit of a
taboo subject. After her book revealed that she had basically
executed one of her farm dogs in a gravel pit,
well that was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, and I hate to be like on the fence
on this. I do see both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But I think there's a humane way that a dog
can be put down, and I don't think that way
needs to be necessarily you take it out and shoot it.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Seriously, you would put a dog in a pit and
shoot it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
No, that's exactly what I did not say.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
As a matter of fact, I know your eyes are struggling,
but your ears should be twice as good.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I did have a very extensive I think.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I understand that. But what I'm saying is, if you
listen to what I said, some dogs do need to
be put down. If they're aggressive, if they're mean, if
they attack humans, and they cannot be trained, and that's
that has snapped within them, then you take them to
a veterinarian and you have them put down.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
That happens all the time, and you have to present evidentier.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I don't know there's legal aspects to it as well.
But one person that takes up the cause for Kelly
is Frandy down in the Springs, and she was vehement
in her response to Wayne on christin Nome. Sorry, Christy,
the dog murderer shouldn't be in any position. She's a murderer. No,
you don't put it down like that. I'm talking about
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shooting it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
You re home it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And then she said bull farmers still love their animals,
even if they are working animals. That was to Wayne's
point that working animals are more like a tool, not
like a living creature that's a companion and.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
A peg agree with that. I mean, but I'm more.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Of a coach, especially when it comes to animals, and
I think a working animal can be coach trained, but
then you buddy up and they're loyal to you. I
think there's an intangible quality that you build there in
your relationship with the dog that manifests itself in a
better working dog.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's my opinion on it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, I had to work. I did a rod.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I know, well you weren't like mushing the dogs themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
What people don't realize, you know this, Kelly, is it's
brutal and a lot of times those dogs die and
they do.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But you know, so I'm a dog lover, so am
I I always wanted to go up and give them
love and.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Like, oh my god, you're such a cute husky.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, And the owners would always tell me, oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No, no no, why not can they bite you?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Oh they will attack maybe they will attack you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, huskies, well think I love a lot of things
about huskies. But they're extremely intelligent. They're stubborn, but they
want to work, like they're just looking for work. Give
me some work to do. And that's the kind of
dog they are, Like, no.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
They just want to run. Yeah, they want to run.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They want to do the idea a rod they love it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So anybody, oh, that's that's dog of abuse and it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I lasted about twenty five seconds and no Alaska, and
now that I'm not working for Discovery anymore. I can
actually say this. It was really bad and I'm going
to toss it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh, she's gonna get the phone.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, you can give us a call eight five five
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lot of variety of texts coming in. And just an update,
you are hearing Ryan Schuling filling in for Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
He's been in court.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He is anticipating an arrival for the final second this
hour and then the full second hour, so you'll get
a chance to talk to Dan or text him as
well on this Friday, heading into the weekend before Inauguration Day.
I've gotten this question two from listeners and many of
you may not have heard it before. Patty asks Ryan,
since Monday is a holiday, it's Martin Luther King Day,
how is your show going to be covered on Monday?
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And how will you check in from d C.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we have the able hands of Jimmy Segenberger, who'll
be filling in not only for me, but for Ross
Kamensky over on KOA that day from ninety and to
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six point thirty k how Jimmy will be in the
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I'll be in d C.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm coordinating with both John Fabricatory, former candidate for House
in the sixth Congressional district against Jason Crowe. I had
wish John had won, and I also Heidi get All,
former Republican nominee for governor.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Here.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We're going to try to coordinate and get her act together.
The thing that is changed, Patty, I'll be checking in from.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
DC with updates.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
They just announced today that they're moveing the swearing in
ceremony indoors due.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
To the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
At least that's what we've been told for the first
time in forty years since Ronald Reagan. For you, it's
not gonna work great because you know, tens of thousands
of people are anticipated to be able.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well thanks for laughing.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
By the way, since I already booked my own ticket,
paid for my own flight, and booked and paid for
my own hotel.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Room, I know you find that extremely amusing.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's not great, it's significantly below average and less than great.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But the plan may.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Be because they're going to be swearing in in the
rotunda of the US Capitol, and you know, you've seen
that when they have the state funerals for deceased presidents,
including upcoming for President Jimmy Carter. There's not a whole
lot of room in there, and I would have to
think that only the most elite VIPs will be.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Allowed access to the rotunda.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Then from there, I can take a ride share from
where I'm staying outside of DC to the metro stop
by Capital One Arena. That's where the Wizards and Capitals
play the basketball and hockey teams for the city of Washington,
and there's about twenty thousand people to be able to
accommodate in the Capitol One Arena where you we'll be
able to watch the swearing in ceremony live together. And
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then reportedly both Donald Trump and JD. Vance after being
sworn in, are going to come over and it's gonna fashion.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like a rally.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So I'll be your eyes and the ears. I'll be
on the ground. I'll be trying to bring you all
the sights and sounds, but it'll be a little bit
more difficult now that they've moved it indoors.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Did you score the ball take us?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Absolutely not, but I'm working on it. And if you're
out there listening. All right, you have some connections and
you want to hook a brother up, help a brother out.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That's me. You know where to find me.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Not necessarily a brother.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh come on, anybody who's listening right now, I would
hope would consider me a brother of theirs, a brother
in arms, a brother in Christ, whilever you want to
define it, I am your brother. I just saw Dan
walk in, so we're about done with our Kabooki theater here.
Shelly Mark got a ticket, Mark Major did. Yeah, through
whom I'm not at liberty to say, okay, Alexis says
(26:01):
the following. I met two of my heroes, Dan Kaplis
and George Brockler. Dan's a lot taller than I thought
he would be. Yeah, he's quite tall. He's every bet
a six four right, and then Brockler is probably about
my height five ten, five eleven somewhere in there. But yeah,
it's always interesting when you meet people who you only
hear on the radio. I'm just an average sized guy,
that's just all.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I am. Just average.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Glad to be average, Happy to be average. Kelly's having
an average day at best. I would stay with her eyes.
Their final question from our texters here before turn turn
things back over to Dan.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Is Kelly drunk right now? Kelly? Are you drunk right now?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I wish I were.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Unfortunately I had a eye thing and they put some drops.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Ye know, your balls are, they're beaning out, they're dilated,
your pupils are.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
God, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We'll give Kelly a little bit more of a chance
to recover, and I'll send you to this break. We
anticipate Dan Caple's I just saw him. We'll be back
on the other side. He'll take you the rest of
the way. The Dan Caplis Show continues. We return to
normal on this Friday edition after this Ryan shuling filling.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
In and now that's done.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Really, I'd like to go back in time and have
Dan take the DeLorean going.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Eighty eight miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I got to get plutonium though, it's the only thing
that fuels it. The DeLorean a Destroit made model.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What was the mall?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That was the Twin Pines Mall, but that was what
it was called in the movie, and then it was
the Lone Pine Mall?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh, it was my home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But what was it really called?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Twenty Hills? What a trivia item that would have been.
Kelly's got to be your teammate. Dan, You're ready. You're
ready for the cold, the snow and the cold after
that man.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Yeah, it's a you know, growing up in Chico, it's
hard for any of this to feel cold.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But it will be cold for the next few days.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So now, how do you feel about the inauguration? I'm
bummed out. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I made these plans in advance, Dan, on my own dime,
paying for the flight and the hotel. I had everything
set up. I got people like Heidiganall and John Fabricatory
to meet.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Up with, and then they move this thing inside, and.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
By like you said, by Chicago or Michigan standards. You
look at the Washington DC forecast, it'll be cold, but
not that cold. It'll be like in the twenties. I'd
be fine. I'd be perfectly fine. So are you critical
of the decision?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I think there's another layer to it, Dan, that
doesn't have to do just with the weather.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I think security might be a factor in the weather.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Might be a convenient excuse to move things inside.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Yeah, and listen, obviously, you've got multiple bad actors around
the world right now, probably actively trying to eliminate this president, right,
I mean, he is right now the most powerful man
in the world. He hasn't even been sworn in yet.
The world is changing for the better almost by the
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day because he was reelected and he's in a position
to do so much good and to do so much
harm to evil in the world. Yeah, I have no
doubt that you have multiple state actors at this point,
you know, looking to take them out. So if it is,
and I have no way to know from the outside, right,
but if it was a security decision, you know, then
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who could criticize that?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And I'm going to try to make the most of them.
I mean, you're giving lemons, you make lemonade. I'm going
to try to ask around and see where people are going.
I'm going to get there early. Why do you keep laughing?
She is delighting in your misery? Or what's that all about?
The Texter had a theory that maybe she's into the sauce.
But it is Friday, and it's five o'clock somewhere and
almost here. But what I'm probably going to do dan
to tip my hand here on the planning the Capital
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One Arena, there were the wizards and Capital's Play is
going to be open.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And they're going to have a staging area.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They should be able to fit about twenty thousand people,
but you know, there was tens of thousands of people
they're going to be there on the mall, So I
don't know how they're going to accommodate everybody that's planning
to come in.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I really don't.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Well, they can't, right, I mean, it's that simple. So
I think what it boils down to if it was
a security decision, yeah, there's no way you could be
critical of that. Here's where I come down on it, Ryan.
It seems to me that Trump is making all the
right moves right now, and he and his team are
laser focused. They're very thoughtful, they're very prepared. Whatever the
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reasoning is behind this, I trust him on it because
you see, since that the moment he was elected, you
see great move after great move. You see positive outcomes
because of those great moves. So whatever's behind this, I
trust that it's going to result in a positive So
there must be a very compelling reason behind other than
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the temperature eight five five for zero five eight two
five five texts DA N five seven seven three nine.
I really want to get your take on that as well.
The inauguration being moved in doors. What do you think
is going on? What's your reaction to it? Do want
to talk about the US Supreme Court? No surprise, right,
the US Supreme Court absolutely correctly finding that Congress has
(31:20):
a right to shut down TikTok, And then the question becomes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Where does it go from here?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
I think, you know, so many people enjoy it that
one way the other, TikTok will continue to exist in America.
But the only way that should be allowed to happen
is if the Chinese government can no longer access the data.
I've got to believe that there will be some way
to accomplish that. But if there isn't, then yeah, that
has to be the end of TikTok because Communist Party
of China cannot be allowed this strategic advantage over the
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United States. If you disagree with that or agree, would
love to hear from me on that eight five five
or zero five A two five five texts DA N
five seven seven three nine. We will have the latest
on the the spree killer, on the mall, and our
continuing determination to get to the bottom of what the
maor new when he knew it, and why these innocent
(32:10):
victims and everybody else weren't told you at least after
six point thirty on Saturday night, you know, to.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
There was a spree killer targeting.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
The mall, and that he had not been apprehended, he
or she had not been apprehended. I think that everybody
deserved that warning.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I think we.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Can all guess as to why it wasn't given, but
there is no justification whatsoever. So we'll continue to use
the Public Records Act all available tools to get to
the bottom of what the mayor new when he knew it,
and who made the decision not to really warn the
public in an effective way, the kind of way that
they would warn their own family members if they thought
their family member was going to the mall.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So a lot of.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Compelling sound we want to get to during the day
to day, A lot of it fun. Is so interesting,
isn't it, Ryan? But not unexpected because these people obviously
lack a strong core. But so many of these late
night comics that put comics and quotes who've just spent
that time lying about Trump being so fundamentally unfair to Trump.
Republicans et cetera. Now turning on Biden in his final hours,
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Why do you think they're doing that? Well, it's easy
to kick the guy while he's going out the door,
right right, It's yeah, And there's a lot to work
with there.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
This is not meant to make fun of him, because
there's nothing funny.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
About this whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Joe Biden's saying that Brock gets mad at me, got
mad at me all the time when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You've heard Barack get made me. Why is your kid
all the times?
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Here's the point, not making fun at all. The point
there is it is an absolute scandal that he is
still serving as president of the United States. He's not competent.
We've known that for a very very long time. And
the fact that the left and their media arm, which
is most of the media, actively hid that and lied
about that, I think is one of the many reasons
(34:07):
Trump won. But is going to do good for the
country long term by undermining the credibility of the left
and its media arm long term.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Because this is a scandal.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And I know the inauguration's Monday, but Biden should not
be president today. He should not be president over the weekend.
He's clearly not mentally capable. So when we come back,
we'll have a largely fun hour going through the confirmation
hearing sound again. It's all part of Trump's team getting
off to a very fast start. But I do want
(34:36):
to come back and begin with getting your take on
the inauguration being moved inside. Why do you think it's happening,
and what do you think about that. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show.
And the cat's away.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
The mice will play the cat being Dan Caplis. He's
still in court and he doesn't know when he's going
to get out. Best case scenario. Dan will be back
at four point thirty six pm in the Mountain time zone.
So if you're listening to the podcast, stay tuned. He's
still to come. Man, if you're listening live, welcome into
our audiences and Fort Collins and Pueblo and all points
(00:21):
in between, border to border, from Wyoming to New Mexico
and all along the front range.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Ryan schuling with you. I'm in the.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Pilot's chair and alongside is Kelly Cacherra. She's sitting shotgun
and well she's miserable at the moment. We're gonna get
into a little bit of the reasons why, but please
give us your phone calls one eight five five four
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four zero five eighty two fifty five. It's the Junior
Varsity Edition, the not Ready for Primetime Players Edition. The
(00:50):
Dan Caplis Pregame Show continues the extended version right here.
Any topic you want to cover on this Friday before
Inauguration Monday, we want to hear from you, and you
can send those texts along as well to five seven
seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Just what's done?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can't see anything you said? Juniorsity, Yeah, that's and me.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Our quarterbacks out.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was actually varsity.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well I know that, but compared to Dano.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And I got a D one scholarship.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh my god, you want to brag a little more?
Keep going?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Can I keep going? By all means that people want
to hear it. I'm sure this is what they tuned
in for.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
They really do.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I think they do.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Jess the sport, well.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I know that it's diving.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, damn it, you just ruined.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You thought the listeners were supposed to guess.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I think you've talked about it enough on this program
that the hardcore so called p one listeners they know
that Kelly Kuchera was on the diving team for Purdue,
that you had a showdown face to face or at
least an awkward angle with Bobby Knight, who's at least
a foot taller than you, right, Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Goodnes Lord, No, a couple of feet. A couple of feet.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I'm just imagining little Kelly.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Back then, you would have been not much older than
Haley nice to you, to you, and you're lucky.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You are very lucky.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, my teammate ran, so I was kind of there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I always loved the highlight of him being asked about
if his team had their game faces on, and he's like,
what do you mean my game face? He starts making
all these weird contorted faces, like what is the game face?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
This isn't this No, But you also have to understand
that Bobby Knight said, do you want to come in?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You should have just taken him up on it.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You want to see right now? And I know I
did not. I was like, oh god, oh no. Yeah,
it was bad, but I was happy to have the
interaction because I've had interactions with other people and other celebrities.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And let's go down that road for a minute. It's
a Friday. We're going to have some fun here. I
just spoke with Caroline Ray the okay, very talented, the
legendary comedian from.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Sabrina the Teenage, which played the theme.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Song for her, played a highlight for She's at the Landmark,
a Greenwood village here just outside of Denver to the south.
That comedy works tonight and tomorrow night, and it's going
to one of the topics that you and I have
covered in the past. Do you want to meet your heroes?
And have you met your heroes? And were you disappointed
or were you encouraged? Where you reinforced like, yeah, that's
(03:36):
the person I hoped that he or she would be.
Now you met Bobby Knight, I'm not sure if he
was a hero of yours. He coached your rival, right,
Jim Katy would be a hero of yours though, right
the head coach at Basket.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, but you met.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Bill Murray on an airplane and Alfo. I've heard varying
stories and accounts about Bill Murray and him not showing
up for work and people being concerned on the set
production crews Otherwise, Directors Richard Dreyfus very notoriously couldn't stand
Bill Murray on the set of What About Bob. The
tension that you watch in that movie between the two characters,
(04:10):
it was real and even down to the point where
everybody kind of falls in love with Bill Murray in
the movie and Richard Dryfus's characters kind of left out
to dry Dreyfus himself felt like that during production of
that film got a call coming in we'll let Kelly
get to that. But if you've had a chance to
meet your heroes, whoever they are, could be in any realm,
(04:32):
could be in politics, could be in business, could be
in pop culture, music, movies, whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
You know, did your heroes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Disappoint you or did they fulfill what you had this expectation,
maybe this idea that you had of them when you
met them face to face. I don't know about heroes
that Barry Sanders. I'll start there, since the Lions are
playing tomorrow in the divisional round of the playoffs against
the Washington should be Redskins. And I met Barry Sanders
(05:02):
as a member of the sports media in the late nineties,
and he was predictably. I thought, aloof distant, not warm,
not real, cordial, didn't really have those fine softer people skills.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But on the other end of that spectrum, I met
the great Herman Moore wide receiver from that time the
nineties with the Lions, and Herman was remarkable. And the
story I like to tell is I'm covering training camp
for the Detroit Lions. It's at Saginaw Valley State University
just up. I seventy five from Detroit. They're now in
Allen Park, but back then late nineties, they were at
(05:39):
SVSU and it was early one morning. My buddy Steve
Lloyd Jones and I we'd gotten there to cover training camp.
We're like, we're gonna do this. We're gonna bring it
back to the people in Grand Rapids and we're gonna
give him live coverage. And Herman Moore was coming out
to practice and I asked him, Herman, can I pull
you aside just for an interview, just for a few minutes.
What do you laugh at a Have you never worked
(06:02):
in this realm? This is what you do, this is
how it's done. You just prospect for interviews. I'm like,
I want to read Herman Moore. He's like, I can't
write now, you know what, But tell you what, first
thing tomorrow when I come out, You're the first guy
I'm going to talk to. And you're thinking, I'm twenty
three years old, I'm a rube in the media. All
these other more experienced reporters and newspaper and television and radio,
(06:23):
they're there, their names, they're known quantities.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I'm thinking Herman's just being nice. He's gonna come
out tomorrow. He's gonna totally forget what he told me.
But I swear to god, there was Kurt Silvester, Mike O'Hara,
Bernie Smile of It. Those of you from Michigan know
the names I'm referencing here. But they're all waiting and
they kind of cut me off. Little twenty three year
old Rye, little Green. What behind the ears, rookie Rye,
I'm getting boxed out by these more experienced journalists, and
(06:51):
I swear to god.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Herman comes out.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
He goes, no, guys, no, I promised him that I
would talk to him first, and I'll come to you
when I'm done. He came over, he goes, I got
as much time as you need. And I'm like, dude,
you are awesome. I'm nobody. I'm nobody. And the greatest
part about this story. Years later, Kelly, I'm at Ford
Field and I'm covering a Lion's game in the press box.
And by this time, Herman's retired, he's a member of
(07:13):
the media, and I got to go up him. I
got to tell him this story, and I did, and
a broad smile occurred on his face and he goes.
You know, I don't remember that, but I'm glad you do.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Is what he said. I got Herman.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
I never forgot it, and it really told me a
lot about the kind of guy that you are. And
I just wanted you to know that I really appreciated it.
And I had my picture taken with him. That's on
Facebook if you want to stock my Facebook page might
be available to the public. But I love Herman Moore's
the bottom line to that story.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well, my counter point is that I was drunk and
I told San Humphries from the Sandy Coot Chargers.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
You wouldn't character but Stan Humphries is not a hero
of yours. No, he was just a public figure.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
It a notable name.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I'm just saying on stories.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Here was he quarterback of the Redskins at the time,
No quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Of Sandy Gooch.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, Chargers. He took them to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know I do.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's thirty years ago. That was that ninety four season
the Chargers played the forty nine Ers.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That was before I told him to be traded.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Did he get traded, I'm not sure where the story
is going. Did he get traded prior to that or
after that. No, what did he say when you said that?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
He looked at me and he said, you're very cute?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Were you?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I hate you?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I know you hate being cute. You hate that. But
isn't it better to be cute than not cute?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
She's not cute? You don't want to hear that. No, No,
you'd rather be called not cute. Thank you cute?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Get out of here? Yeah that noise.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
No, it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is there any hero of yours that you met that
you were let down? You were disappointed, really bummed out?
A notable name, name, a name people would know.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh, because, I mean you talked about Bill Murray and
he was. He actually changed my life.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He did. He set you on the right path, he did.
He put you in the right mindset.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
He did.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
He was very generous at this time. Oh yeah, he
was a gem. He really was to you.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, he's one of the few people I've ever heard
tell a story like that that paints him in such.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A positive light, because he's so flaky.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Otherwise, why do you say that his brother? Yeah, well no, no,
he just sees in and out. He's not reliable. People
have varying opinions of him. I happen to love him.
So Kelly's going nuts wanting to answer the phone. Well,
take this time out. You can call it an eight
five five four zero five eight two five five just
a brief aside.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We're taking a breath here.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dan Kaplis should be back by four point thirty six
or thereabouts. We're hoping you can call in with your
stories about heroes or send me a text five seven
seven nine, Ryan schuling in temporarily for Dan Caplis. He's
in court. He'll come back. He will have won. He's
always winning. He's winning right now. He doesn't even know
he's winning, but he's winning. On the Dan Caplas Show.
(10:24):
Will you end the use of the CPP want app Yes, Senator.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
If confirmed and I have the opportunity to be secretary,
on day one, CBP one will be shut down. There's
data and information in there that we will preserve so
that we can ensure we know who's coming into this
country and who's already here that we need to go find.
But also we make sure that there's another program CHMV,
which I'm sure you're very familiar with, where our federal
government actually paid to fly people into this country directly
(10:50):
from other countries without any vetting or knowing who they are.
So there's several of these programs that need to be
eliminated and we need to ensure that we're following legal
immigration laws.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That is Governor Christine nom Republican South Dakota, who of
course is in the offing to be the Director of
Homeland Security and what an upgrade from Alejandro mayorcis. She
will be talking to Senator Josh Holly about the CBP
one app, which basically it's ridiculous. It allows an illegal
to cross the border as long as they have the app,
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they download where they need to go, and they can
walk about free within the country about being vetted without
getting a court date.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Just come back and check in on the app.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
We'll see what happens. And Christy Nomes says that she's
going to put an end to that. And the reason
that I play Christy Nome coming out of the break,
It's going to be a little bit controversial. Kelly's already
gotten her dander up over it. I'm asking about your
heroes and if you've ever met one of them, several
of them, how that experience has gone. I give you
my example of Barry Sanders being a middle of a letdown,
(11:49):
Herman Moore being an absolute saint, A jem Bill Murray
for Kelly couchera off the charts, what a guy he was.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Really put her on the right path.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Just on a plane ride and we going out, Aye
and Fort Collins, who says his hero is Christinome and
he had a chance to meet her.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Wayne, Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Hey, how you doing good afternoon from South Dakota. Oh. Yes,
I had the great opportunity to retire and leave the
state of Colorado five years ago. Well now I'm up
here in the Black Hills of South Dkota.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
A lot of people would call you lies, Wayne. You
moved to a much redder state, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Yes. I love it here. And in the past five
years since I've been here, I've had the opportunity to
meet our great governor twice, and she was beautiful and
friendly and nice both times. The first time I met her,
she was in actually at the Buffalo round Up if
you've ever heard of it up here?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yeah, she came out of a meeting and she was
kind of standing in line, and I came up there
and I said, hello, Governor home, and she reached out
through the crowd to shake my hand and had the
opportunity to get a picture with her and chatted with
her just a bit. She was running for reelection at
that time, and I know there's a lot of controversy.
Kelly kind of went off on me just a little bit.
(13:14):
I don't hold her any grudges against that, but I
can just tell that she is evidently someone who's never
grown up a farm.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, and let's go down that road a little bit. Wayne,
It's been a while since we had this conversation. And
the controversy comes from a book that Christy nom wrote
about a dog that she had and it wasn't obeying orders.
I think it was too aggressive, and she decided to
take it to a gravel pit and she shot it.
And a lot of people, Kelly included, had a major
problem with that. Wayne, You do not Why not?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No, I don't, because, like I was trying to explain
to her, is I grew up on a farm. And
from the way that I got the idea from what
I heard with this dog that she had, was this
is a dog that's also mean to her children or grandchildren,
growing up on a farm. You don't, you know, just
(14:05):
art your dog to the vet to have it put down.
You fuck it up and you take care of those
things yourself. I've never personally put a dog down, but
when I was probably five six years old, we had
a farm dog that ended up having to be put down.
And my dad, he had had the dog for long
(14:26):
that he could, didn't have the heart to do it.
So a neighbor came over and did it for him.
And that's just the way farm life is. You know,
it's harsh. It's not all blooms and roses and everything
else like you see in the movies and downtown.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Okay, so this is Kelly, I was talking to you earlier. Yeah,
can we just takes a dog to a different place
to let it live his life?
Speaker 6 (14:57):
A mean dog like that, you cannot do it. I
know that that the present administration had two dogs that
were mean, and uh, well, where did they go? No?
I don't. I don't know where they went, whether they
went or ye, are they someplace else or they what
(15:26):
about the damn goat?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
About the goat?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Okay, I'm not really up on the goat story. I
know I know it happened too, that a goat was
put down. But from from I can going back to
my dad, they had a mean goat on the farm
when he was a kid. Uh huh, and my my
grandfather was carrying two buckets of milk, you know, they
(15:52):
had to go almost little house on the prairie sitting
here in South Dakota, carrying two buckets of milk to
the house, and that goat came up and knocked him down.
And the next day the goo it wasn't there, so.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
My dad was raised and born in Madison, South Dakota.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Oh. Okay, so that's that's where our daughter got married.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So great great town, oh Madison. Yeah, it's weird anyway.
Let's not kill animals, Let's kill I don't know something
from Yeah, I'm sorry, okay, I am.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
I you know, I understand people who have that opinion,
and they're they're right to have it. Actually, we've got
a little bit of a heartbreaking story in our family
just just this past week. My brother uh been married
to this lady for ten years and when they were married,
she had a little little puppy, little dopson or whatever,
(16:55):
how are you pronounced it and just last week they
had to put it down, and yes it's and no
they did not take it out in the trees and
put it down. They did take it to a vent.
But yes, I can understand that. I see people's view
on that too. But those are more of a pet,
a companion and things like that, whereas a farm dog
(17:17):
is is like a piece of it's a tool. And
when your tractor doesn't work anymore, your tractor's broke down,
you get rid of it, you scrap it and it's gone,
you know, or you're a piece of farm machine. So
it's a tool on the farm.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
You have insurance on tractor. You don't have insurance on
the No, you don't.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Farmers don't have insurance on tractors unless they're the big
time farmers. When I was growing up, we had a
small town. It was four quarters of land, and if
your tractor was broke down and it was no good,
it got put out in the trees, put the pasture,
as they would say. Yeah, literally, you've got another one.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Wayne and Fort Collins. We thank you for relating that tale.
We hope you enjoy South Dakota. There was the novel,
the movie Old Yeller we know all about it. I
grew up in a farm town and maybe this sparks
another conversation to me. It's the circle of life, and
it's more about how it's done. And that's where I
slightly agree with Kelly on this eight five five four
zero five eight two five five Your thoughts you can
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send them by text as well at five seven seven
thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Greatest Disney Film of all Time. He is the Lion King.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now you may disagree and feel free to do it.
On this Friday edition of The Dan Caplis Show. It
is the Dan Caplis Pregame Show Extended.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
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Speaker 2 (18:41):
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x at Ryan Shuling last name Dutch. It's weird. There's
an extra volin there. If you need to buy a vowel,
I can sell you one as c h U. I
l ing Circle of Life Elton John talking about this
because my initial conversation on heroes was taken in a
different direction by Wayne and Fort Collins, who identified Christy
nom as a hero, and to Kelly and I think
(19:26):
many listeners out there, well, that's a bit of a
taboo subject. After her book revealed that she had basically
executed one of her farm dogs in a gravel pit,
well that was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, and I hate to be like on the fence
on this. I do see both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But I think there's a humane way that a dog
can be put down, and I don't think that way
needs to be necessarily you take it out and shoot it.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Seriously, you would put a dog in a pit and
shoot it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
No, that's exactly what I did not say.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
As a matter of fact, I know your eyes are struggling,
but your ears should be twice as good.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I did have a very extensive I think.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I understand that. But what I'm saying is, if you
listen to what I said, some dogs do need to
be put down. If they're aggressive, if they're mean, if
they attack humans, and they cannot be trained, and that's
that has snapped within them, then you take them to
a veterinarian and you have them put down.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
That happens all the time, and you have to present evidentier.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I don't know there's legal aspects to it as well.
But one person that takes up the cause for Kelly
is Frandy down in the Springs, and she was vehement
in her response to Wayne on christin Nome. Sorry, Christy,
the dog murderer shouldn't be in any position. She's a murderer. No,
you don't put it down like that. I'm talking about
(20:46):
shooting it.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
You re home it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And then she said bull farmers still love their animals,
even if they are working animals. That was to Wayne's
point that working animals are more like a tool, not
like a living creature that's a companion and.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
A peg agree with that. I mean, but I'm more.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Of a coach, especially when it comes to animals, and
I think a working animal can be coach trained, but
then you buddy up and they're loyal to you. I
think there's an intangible quality that you build there in
your relationship with the dog that manifests itself in a
better working dog.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
That's my opinion on it.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, I had to work. I did a rod.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I know, well you weren't like mushing the dogs themselves.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Thank god.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
What people don't realize, you know this, Kelly, is it's
brutal and a lot of times those dogs die and
they do.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But you know, so I'm a dog lover, so am
I I always wanted to go up and give them
love and.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Like, oh my god, you're such a cute husky.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, And the owners would always tell me, oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
No, no no, why not can they bite you?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Oh they will attack maybe they will attack you.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, huskies, well think I love a lot of things
about huskies. But they're extremely intelligent. They're stubborn, but they
want to work, like they're just looking for work. Give
me some work to do. And that's the kind of
dog they are, Like, no.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
They just want to run. Yeah, they want to run.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
They want to do the idea a rod they love it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So anybody, oh, that's that's dog of abuse and it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I lasted about twenty five seconds and no Alaska, and
now that I'm not working for Discovery anymore. I can
actually say this. It was really bad and I'm going
to toss it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Oh, she's gonna get the phone.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, you can give us a call eight five five
four zero five eight two five five, send us your
text five seven seven three nine, and we get a
lot of variety of texts coming in. And just an update,
you are hearing Ryan Schuling filling in for Dan Kaplis.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
He's been in court.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He is anticipating an arrival for the final second this
hour and then the full second hour, so you'll get
a chance to talk to Dan or text him as
well on this Friday, heading into the weekend before Inauguration Day.
I've gotten this question two from listeners and many of
you may not have heard it before. Patty asks Ryan,
since Monday is a holiday, it's Martin Luther King Day,
how is your show going to be covered on Monday?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And how will you check in from d C.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we have the able hands of Jimmy Segenberger, who'll
be filling in not only for me, but for Ross
Kamensky over on KOA that day from ninety and to
noon and then from two to four pm here on
six point thirty k how Jimmy will be in the
host chair.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'll be in d C.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm coordinating with both John Fabricatory, former candidate for House
in the sixth Congressional district against Jason Crowe. I had
wish John had won, and I also Heidi get All,
former Republican nominee for governor.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Here.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We're going to try to coordinate and get her act together.
The thing that is changed, Patty, I'll be checking in from.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
DC with updates.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
They just announced today that they're moveing the swearing in
ceremony indoors due.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
To the weather.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
At least that's what we've been told for the first
time in forty years since Ronald Reagan. For you, it's
not gonna work great because you know, tens of thousands
of people are anticipated to be able.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well thanks for laughing.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
By the way, since I already booked my own ticket,
paid for my own flight, and booked and paid for
my own hotel.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Room, I know you find that extremely amusing.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's not great, it's significantly below average and less than great.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
But the plan may.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Be because they're going to be swearing in in the
rotunda of the US Capitol, and you know, you've seen
that when they have the state funerals for deceased presidents,
including upcoming for President Jimmy Carter. There's not a whole
lot of room in there, and I would have to
think that only the most elite VIPs will be.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Allowed access to the rotunda.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Then from there, I can take a ride share from
where I'm staying outside of DC to the metro stop
by Capital One Arena. That's where the Wizards and Capitals
play the basketball and hockey teams for the city of Washington,
and there's about twenty thousand people to be able to
accommodate in the Capitol One Arena where you we'll be
able to watch the swearing in ceremony live together. And
(25:09):
then reportedly both Donald Trump and JD. Vance after being
sworn in, are going to come over and it's gonna fashion.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Like a rally.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
So I'll be your eyes and the ears. I'll be
on the ground. I'll be trying to bring you all
the sights and sounds, but it'll be a little bit
more difficult now that they've moved it indoors.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Did you score the ball take us?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Absolutely not, but I'm working on it. And if you're
out there listening. All right, you have some connections and
you want to hook a brother up, help a brother out.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
That's me. You know where to find me.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Not necessarily a brother.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Oh come on, anybody who's listening right now, I would
hope would consider me a brother of theirs, a brother
in arms, a brother in Christ, whilever you want to
define it, I am your brother. I just saw Dan
walk in, so we're about done with our Kabooki theater here.
Shelly Mark got a ticket, Mark Major did. Yeah, through
whom I'm not at liberty to say, okay, Alexis says
(26:01):
the following. I met two of my heroes, Dan Kaplis
and George Brockler. Dan's a lot taller than I thought
he would be. Yeah, he's quite tall. He's every bet
a six four right, and then Brockler is probably about
my height five ten, five eleven somewhere in there. But yeah,
it's always interesting when you meet people who you only
hear on the radio. I'm just an average sized guy,
that's just all.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I am. Just average.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Glad to be average, Happy to be average. Kelly's having
an average day at best. I would stay with her eyes.
Their final question from our texters here before turn turn
things back over to Dan.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Is Kelly drunk right now? Kelly? Are you drunk right now?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I wish I were.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Unfortunately I had a eye thing and they put some drops.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Ye know, your balls are, they're beaning out, they're dilated,
your pupils are.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
God, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We'll give Kelly a little bit more of a chance
to recover, and I'll send you to this break. We
anticipate Dan Caple's I just saw him. We'll be back
on the other side. He'll take you the rest of
the way. The Dan Caplis Show continues. We return to
normal on this Friday edition after this Ryan shuling filling.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
In and now that's done.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Really, I'd like to go back in time and have
Dan take the DeLorean going.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Eighty eight miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I got to get plutonium though, it's the only thing
that fuels it. The DeLorean a Destroit made model.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What was the mall?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That was the Twin Pines Mall, but that was what
it was called in the movie, and then it was
the Lone Pine Mall?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh, it was my home.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But what was it really called?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Twenty Hills? What a trivia item that would have been.
Kelly's got to be your teammate. Dan, You're ready. You're
ready for the cold, the snow and the cold after
that man.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
Yeah, it's a you know, growing up in Chico, it's
hard for any of this to feel cold.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But it will be cold for the next few days.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
So now, how do you feel about the inauguration? I'm
bummed out. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I made these plans in advance, Dan, on my own dime,
paying for the flight and the hotel. I had everything
set up. I got people like Heidiganall and John Fabricatory
to meet.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Up with, and then they move this thing inside, and.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
By like you said, by Chicago or Michigan standards. You
look at the Washington DC forecast, it'll be cold, but
not that cold. It'll be like in the twenties. I'd
be fine. I'd be perfectly fine. So are you critical
of the decision?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I am.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I think there's another layer to it, Dan, that
doesn't have to do just with the weather.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I think security might be a factor in the weather.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Might be a convenient excuse to move things inside.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Yeah, and listen, obviously, you've got multiple bad actors around
the world right now, probably actively trying to eliminate this president, right,
I mean, he is right now the most powerful man
in the world. He hasn't even been sworn in yet.
The world is changing for the better almost by the
(29:07):
day because he was reelected and he's in a position
to do so much good and to do so much
harm to evil in the world. Yeah, I have no
doubt that you have multiple state actors at this point,
you know, looking to take them out. So if it is,
and I have no way to know from the outside, right,
but if it was a security decision, you know, then
(29:30):
who could criticize that?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And I'm going to try to make the most of them.
I mean, you're giving lemons, you make lemonade. I'm going
to try to ask around and see where people are going.
I'm going to get there early. Why do you keep laughing?
She is delighting in your misery? Or what's that all about?
The Texter had a theory that maybe she's into the sauce.
But it is Friday, and it's five o'clock somewhere and
almost here. But what I'm probably going to do dan
to tip my hand here on the planning the Capital
(29:56):
One Arena, there were the wizards and Capital's Play is
going to be open.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And they're going to have a staging area.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
They should be able to fit about twenty thousand people,
but you know, there was tens of thousands of people
they're going to be there on the mall, So I
don't know how they're going to accommodate everybody that's planning
to come in.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I really don't.
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Well, they can't, right, I mean, it's that simple. So
I think what it boils down to if it was
a security decision, yeah, there's no way you could be
critical of that. Here's where I come down on it, Ryan.
It seems to me that Trump is making all the
right moves right now, and he and his team are
laser focused. They're very thoughtful, they're very prepared. Whatever the
(30:34):
reasoning is behind this, I trust him on it because
you see, since that the moment he was elected, you
see great move after great move. You see positive outcomes
because of those great moves. So whatever's behind this, I
trust that it's going to result in a positive So
there must be a very compelling reason behind other than
(30:57):
the temperature eight five five for zero five eight two
five five texts DA N five seven seven three nine.
I really want to get your take on that as well.
The inauguration being moved in doors. What do you think
is going on? What's your reaction to it? Do want
to talk about the US Supreme Court? No surprise, right,
the US Supreme Court absolutely correctly finding that Congress has
(31:20):
a right to shut down TikTok, And then the question becomes,
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Where does it go from here?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
I think, you know, so many people enjoy it that
one way the other, TikTok will continue to exist in America.
But the only way that should be allowed to happen
is if the Chinese government can no longer access the data.
I've got to believe that there will be some way
to accomplish that. But if there isn't, then yeah, that
has to be the end of TikTok because Communist Party
of China cannot be allowed this strategic advantage over the
(31:48):
United States. If you disagree with that or agree, would
love to hear from me on that eight five five
or zero five A two five five texts DA N
five seven seven three nine. We will have the latest
on the the spree killer, on the mall, and our
continuing determination to get to the bottom of what the
maor new when he knew it, and why these innocent
(32:10):
victims and everybody else weren't told you at least after
six point thirty on Saturday night, you know, to.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
There was a spree killer targeting.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
The mall, and that he had not been apprehended, he
or she had not been apprehended. I think that everybody
deserved that warning.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I think we.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Can all guess as to why it wasn't given, but
there is no justification whatsoever. So we'll continue to use
the Public Records Act all available tools to get to
the bottom of what the mayor new when he knew it,
and who made the decision not to really warn the
public in an effective way, the kind of way that
they would warn their own family members if they thought
their family member was going to the mall.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So a lot of.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Compelling sound we want to get to during the day
to day, A lot of it fun. Is so interesting,
isn't it, Ryan? But not unexpected because these people obviously
lack a strong core. But so many of these late
night comics that put comics and quotes who've just spent
that time lying about Trump being so fundamentally unfair to Trump.
Republicans et cetera. Now turning on Biden in his final hours,
(33:17):
Why do you think they're doing that? Well, it's easy
to kick the guy while he's going out the door,
right right, It's yeah, And there's a lot to work
with there.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
This is not meant to make fun of him, because
there's nothing funny.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
About this whatsoever.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
Joe Biden's saying that Brock gets mad at me, got
mad at me all the time when I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
You've heard Barack get made me. Why is your kid
all the times?
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Here's the point, not making fun at all. The point
there is it is an absolute scandal that he is
still serving as president of the United States. He's not competent.
We've known that for a very very long time. And
the fact that the left and their media arm, which
is most of the media, actively hid that and lied
about that, I think is one of the many reasons
(34:07):
Trump won. But is going to do good for the
country long term by undermining the credibility of the left
and its media arm long term.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Because this is a scandal.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
And I know the inauguration's Monday, but Biden should not
be president today. He should not be president over the weekend.
He's clearly not mentally capable. So when we come back,
we'll have a largely fun hour going through the confirmation
hearing sound again. It's all part of Trump's team getting
off to a very fast start. But I do want
(34:36):
to come back and begin with getting your take on
the inauguration being moved inside. Why do you think it's happening,
and what do you think about that. You're on the
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