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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. You know, the
funny thing about that Sidney Sweeney ad is a lot
of people would look at that and say, you know,
that's the American way, right, kind of an iconic American
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look which has nothing to do with race, but an
iconic American look with Sydney Sweeney. So all this controversy
over the ad, I personally believe at least ninety nine
percent of it is fake. That very few of the
people upset about that ad are truly upset. But we'll
get back to breaking that down because I think it
leads a lot of interesting places, and our texts are
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exploding on it every Thursday at this time. We're really
privileged to have doctor Catherine Wheeler with us, in part
because of the fact she's a medical doctor, right, and
so when we talk about this most important civil rights
issue of our lifetime, it's great to have just the
straight medical perspective on it, and then doctor talking about
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abortion obviously, but then doctor Wheeler brings something additional to
the table because, like Abby Johnson and others you know
who are among the great heroes of the pro life
movements saving so many lives. You know, like Abby, doctor
Wheeler used to be on the other side of this.
She used to conduct abortions. So to have her perspective
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and to now have her saving lives is just so valuable.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Doctor. Welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you so much. Dan, it's great to be on again.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, and really appreciate you following up on this topic
we started last week that this pro publica you know,
claiming that these abortion bands or abortion restrictions, now that
row has fallen and people can actually legislate on this,
that they're actually taking lives, and so great to have
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the medical perspective to get to the truth on that.
So if you don't mind just picking it up where
we left off and just letting people know what the
truth is there, be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, the last time we did talk.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
About the claim, which is incorrect, that abortion pill complications
that have caused deaths and women in Torgia were actually
caused because of abortion restrictions, and so we talked last
time about how these were unfortunately actually abortion pill complications,
and today I wanted to talk about Texas cases that
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Pro Publica is claiming miscarriages are causing deaths because of
abortion restrictions, and they're tagging along with the American College
of obgi N, which has an ad campaign called Blame
the Bands, and so they're really looking for anything that
is not going well and trying to blame.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It on abortion bands.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Which is actually misinformation. So today I'll talk about miscarriage cases,
and there's three that i'll talk about. The first one Portia,
and I'm going to butcher her last name, Nia Meazi,
who was eleven weeks pregnant. They thought she'd had no
prenatal care, but she presented to an emergency department bleeding
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and an ultrasound could not identify a pregnancy. That's called
a pregnancy of undetermined location. And there are three things
that that could be. She could be extremely early with
a normal pregnancy with some bleeding, which happens in about
twenty percent of pregnancies, and usually you can see the
baby with a heartbeat between five and a half and
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six weeks, so she could have been prior to that,
she could have nick topic pregnancy, meaning a pregnancy outside
of the uterus, which is life threatening, or she could
be having a miscarriage. So it wasn't clear which one
of those three things was happening. But she was hemorrhaging
to the point of meetings blood transfusions, had two of
them over six hours, and no obstetrician had come to
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evaluate her, which was concerning or her partner. But finally
he came and instead of doing a DNC, which is
standard of care when somebody is having life threatening bleeding,
he gave her a drug instead, which takes a while
to act, and she died within three hours. This was
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their claim was that DNC is tangled up in state
legislation because of abortion restrictions. And I think what people
need to understand is that DNC is not abortion. DNC
when used to take a baby's life, is abortion. But
we use DNC for miscarriage management. That's legal in every
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state and we use it forecology indications, So DNC is
not illegal. That was actually malpractice what happened to her
and very unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And doctor, could you explain what DNC is?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, thank you, So DNC means it's a surgical procedure
where you go through the vagina through the cervix with
a little instrument that looks like a straw, attach it
to section, and you're removing a baby who's already died
with a miscarriage, So you're not causing a death. You're
removing a baby who's passed away in the placenta. So
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that's called a DNC.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And perfectly eagle under Texas law.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's legal in every state. So miscarriage is not abortion.
The management of miscarriage does not change in any of
the states that have abortion restrictions.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So they're just lying about that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, there's this conflation of and I think it's very
intentional of abortion in miscarriage. It confuses people, and instead
of clarifying the law, it's being confused even further by
these media outlets and by the American College of OBQIN,
which is really unfortunate because their job is to be
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clarify flying for the public, not causing further confusion and
really contributing to these deaths by confusing people.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, and you're such a kind soul, but they're confusing
people on purpose, which I would define as lying. But
I understand you're here for the medical facts, but thank
you for just educating all of us on that.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know, the goal is unrestricted access. The goal is
to have abortion in every state constitution, unrestricted, no safeguards
for women, no limitations, no oversight. That's the ultimate goal.
And so that you're right, this is very purposeful.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And why do you think that's their ultimate goal. It's
one of the things that baffles me as a guy
who used to be a Democrat, and then this commitment
to legalized abortion on demand through labor and delivery drove
me out of the party. But where do you think
that comes from? From your unique perspective? Why are these
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interest groups so obsessed with unlimited abortion till the moment
of birth, if not beyond.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, we have to remember there's a lot of money
behind abortion. Money talks. Money is very political. Unfortunately, the
American College of OBGYN has a lot of ties to
the abortion industry. A lot of the leaders there have
ties to Planned parenthood, a lot of the researchers in
medicine have ties to abortion, and so there's a lot
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of distortion.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Of facts when you look at.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
The abortion drug mifipristone. Actually, there's so much money that
it makes. Can you even imagine how much money that
is making now? With over seventy percent of abortions in
Colorado and over sixty percent nationally now being done by
these drugs, and both the generic drug and Danco Labs,
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who originally brought the drug to the United States, both
of them, that's the only drug they make.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That will tell you how profitable that drug is.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
There is a lot of money behind this.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, well, and I'm sorry to cut a New York
time on the medicine. I think you had another example
out of Texas that was being misrepresented.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I do that article I told you about. The first
one actually referred to an MSNBC article, but it was
by Ryan Hamilton, and so people may recognize him as
a radio voice and podcaster. But he writes about his
wife very unfortunate. But it actually is titled Trump says
leave abortion.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Up to the States.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Texas nearly killed my wife and his wife was thirteen
weeks with their second child, bleeding in pain, goes into
a rural Texas hospital. They did an ultrasound and there's
no fetal heartbeat. So by definition, this is sadly a miscarriage.
So she had three options. One, you actually don't have
to intervene with a miscarriage. Eighty percent of women will
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spontaneously miscarry. If they're stable, you can leave them alone.
That's one option. You can offer the DNC, the surgical option,
and you can offer medication which are similar to the
drugs used for a drug and used abortion. And the
doctor apparently refused to do a DNC. She was sent home.
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She continued bleeding and having pain for days and passed
out at home. So now he carries her into the
er and obviously he's very upset, but his assumption is
that doctors did not do the DNC because of the
law in fear of criminal prosecution. But the two things
that I think would be helpful for people to understand.
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When somebody comes into the emergency room with bleeding and
they're pregnant, if they're stable, they do not have to
be offered an emergency DNC on the spot. What happens,
especially in a rural hospital, usually no induspision in the
hospital all the time. Usually the operating crew is not
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in the hospital, so the emergency room is to make
the decision. Is this an emergency where I need to
call everybody in emergently to take care of her, or
is she's stable enough that she can follow up with
an obstetrician and get scheduled as opposed to an emergency,
And apparently they didn't feel it was a true emergency
to call in a crew. So and the second thing
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is again, if she's stable, if she's not hemorrhaging like
the first woman, if she doesn't have a fever, if
her service isn't dilated with part tissue passed and part not,
you can observe her and not do an emergency DNC.
So I think that's what a lot of people don't understand,
and he obviously couldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well. I really appreciate you coming on each week to
clarify these things doctor, from the medical standpoint that there
is I think so much flat out lying going on
out there about you know, alleged medical facts, to have
you each week to present the true medicine. He's very
much appreciated and we'll look forward to next week.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Thank you so much, Dane. I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Thank you doctor. You take care.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That is doctor Catherine Wheeler, and really appreciate the great
work she does. Hey, when we come back, I want
to get back to that Sydney Sweeney story and the
alleged controversy. Get your take on these ads. Do you
think they're in any way racist or fascist? And the
criticism where do you think it's really coming from?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You're on the Dan Capla.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Show and now back to the Dankapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Wow, glad you're here. You know, this controversy over the
Sydney Sweeney ad really strikes me as fake because it's
it's hard for me to understand how anybody could sincerely
have a problem with this ad. And if you haven't
seen it, if you're new to the issue, it's pretty
darn straightforward. Sidney Sweeney twenty seven year old American actress.
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She's a good actress, I think, been in some hit
TV shows and movies. You know, five foot three, blonde,
blue eyed Ryan describes her.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How, Ryan, what was your descriptor.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well proportioned curves?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, you know, so kind of one of those kind
of iconic and there are so many different forms of
beauty right size and shapes, everything, but one of those
kind of iconic American beauty models.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So you've got American Eagle.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This outfitter, you know, clothing men and women, and they
come up with this ad. It's a takeoff on a
Brookshields ad that was back in the eighties where they're
talking about genes J E A N S, but they're
referring to G E N E s and tying in
the whole good genes thing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So here's a here's a taste of it. Cut three.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My
genes are blue, Sydney Sweeney has grat geens.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, let me give you a longer form example as well.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All right, well let's go with Cut two.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle chains,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing. I'm gonna need to do that. But if
you said that you want to buy the jeans, I'm
not gonna stop you. But as we're clear, this is
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not me telling you to buy American Egle chens.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Sydney Sweeney hasbury keenes.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
You see what I did there, right.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, and then I'll get to some of the criticism
in a minute. But the heart of the criticism is,
you know that, hey, this is racist. This is fastest
because she's talking about superior jeans as a white, blue
eyed woman, et cetera. So I want to get your
take on that. Three oh three seven one three A
two five five text d An five seven seven three nine.
Another criticism I'll put that in quotes, is this that
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is clearly targeting whites and claiming these genes are superior.
If it is targeting whites, and I think it probably is.
You know, is there anything wrong with that? Did I
just quote Hillary Clinton? Or was that a Seinfeld quote?
That's kind of scary. And we haven't even had time
today to get to some of the revelations from Chuck
Grassley about Hillary Clinton, but we will get there. Ryan.
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Maybe one of my favorite text ever, Dan, I'm at
a state park surrounded by about sixty people on the
beach blaring your show on abortion truths in my boat.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So many pissed. And that's that's what you live for.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Right, That's quite an interesting choice of programming for the beach.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I thought he wantedn't want went to the yacht Rock.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, but whoever you are, please call the show. We
are very grateful to you. Wonder if you're out of
Cherry Creek, but we'd love some more detail on that.
It was kind of like the highlight of my life
as a dad. Not really, but it's up there in
the top ten or twenty. Is uh. I was on air,
Amy was pulling into It was summer and she was
pulling into I think Wells Fargo, and they pull up
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next to this car and it's this hot sports car
and the tops down and the radio is blaring and
it's my show and like you know, with the kids,
that was like the greatest thing ever. Wow, somebody actually
listens to that show and he's in a cool car.
Three all three seven to one, three eight two five
five text d an five seven seven three nine And
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I want to get to a bunch of these texts.
But it seems to me that the reason this criticism
must all just be fake and for show and clicks
and everything else is wait a second, she's talking about
good jeans and that she has good jeens that's not
subtle and everything else. But she's I'm not saying other
people don't have good genes. She's not saying her genes
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are better than anybody else, be they of the same
race or a different race. So where would there be
any room to criticize this whatsoever? But love your take,
and if you are critical, we will obviously send the
limo for you.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
There.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I like this text, Dan, Why is this even a conversation?
Probably because the ads themselves are pretty interesting. And then
when you go back to the Brooks Shields version of
this ad that I'll play in a second from the eighties,
which to me was legitimately controversial because those were much
much more sexual than this.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
She's writhing around on the floor at.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Age fifteen, and that to me seemed really highly inappropriate.
Let's just play at cut eight please. This is Brooks
Shields back in the eighties.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
The secret of life lies hidden in the genetic coat
jets a fundamental and determining the characteristics of an individual
and passing on these characteristics two succeeding generations. Occasionally, certain
conditions produce a structural change in the gene which will
bring about the process of evolution. This may occur in
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one or more of the following ways. Firstly, by selective
mating in which is single gene type proof superior and
transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly by gene drift,
in which certain genes may fade away while other genes persist,
and finally by natural selection, which builters out those genes
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better equipped than others to endure in the environment.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
This may result in the origin of an.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Entirely new species which brings us to Calvins and the
survival of the.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Fittest Calvin Klein genes. Yeah, so, don't you think, Ryan,
this is clearly a takeoff on those old Brookshields at
the total marketing standpoint, obviously brilliant everything else. And when
we come back a few more, we've got other news
to cover. But I'll also want to get into what's
been happening to American eagle stock since then. And it's
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not what a lot of people think. What do you
think is going on there? You're on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Interesting day. You know, the Sidney Sweeney topic is so
interesting to me because I think the whole thing's fake.
But at the same time, the spots, you know, the
spots are intriguing to listen to, particularly when you think
about the history that pretty smart marketing, right spinning off
of those very famous and effective Brookshield spots from the eighties.
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But the outrage, to me, I would bet you, is
just entirely made up. I don't see how any person
could be legitimately a set with these ads. They claim
it's racist, they claim it's fascist because she talks about
this blond haired, blue eyed woman having good genes. So
what she does, she's not suggesting in any way, shape
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or form that her genes are better than anybody of
any other race, or anybody of her own race. So
that's why I think this whole thing's made up. Three
or three seven, one, three eight two five five text
d an five seven seven three nine, getting so many
interesting texts on this though. I do want to continue
the conversation a little bit and then we'll shift to
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some other big.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
News of the day.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But for those who have not heard the spots yet
and you can see why they've been effective, Ryan, why
don't we start with cut three please.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and eve an eye color.
My geens are blue.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sydney Sweeney has great genes. Yeah, and I really wonder
if there is any genuine upset there, whether it would
be so misplaced, but whether it has anything to do
with the fact that, wait a second, she is obviously
very attractive, and you have this entire movement out there
on the left right to kind of redefine what it
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is to be attractive, redefine what it is, you know,
to be American, redefine you know, American culture, et cetera,
American icaga. So it's all of that, and that's one
reason I think we see so much support for these
ads among our Texters. I'd be very surprised if anybody's
in our audience is running out now to buy American
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Eagle chains. But I think they appreciate what the company's
doing because it's pushing back against this leftism and the
wocism of the left, etc. That's trying to redefine beauty
in a goofy kind of way, you know what I mean.
I mean, beauty is not Dylan mulvaney. You know, some
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guys wearing a dress not not to the vast majority
of us and and the left for so long wanted
to force us to say, Dylan mulvaney is a beautiful woman,
or we'd be banned from civilized society. And thank god
America stood up and stood up in this election and said, hey,
we got no beef with you know, men who want
to identify as women or whatever, but don't force us
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to lie and stay away from the kids. And and
so I think that very powerful common sense message from
Americans prevailed on election day. And this adds an extension
of that. Three all three seven one, three eight two
five five texts d an five seven seven three nine,
A few more texts on this, and then we'll move
on unless Ryan, you have something that you've just been
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dying to say on this.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
No, let's get to those texts.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, so many, Dan. Never does she say superior genes?
Exactly my point. That's why there's no legitimate basis to
be upset by this, Dan, Popeye's Chicken is an overwhelming
amount of African Americans. So is that racist? Why is
it only white people can be called racist? Hypocrisy on
full display? And this is where I would disagree in
this sense, this criticism of the Sydney sweeneyad. It's not
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coming from black people. It's not coming from our Hispanic population.
It's not coming from any of our identifiable population.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So this is not a.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Matter of black versus white or anything like that. You know,
if there's any sincere criticism and sincerely wrong, it's coming
from lefties. I gotta get to some of the short ones, Dan.
Now the liberals are blowing gaskets over Dunkin Donuts new ad,
even though the model is actually Italian. You can't make
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this stuff up. I think you have that, don't you, Ryan,
the Dunkin Donuts ad. Look, I didn't ask to be
the King of Summer.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It just kind of happened.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
This tan genetics. I just got my color analysis back.
Guess what Golden Summer? Literally, I can't help it.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Every time I drink Dunkin Golden Hour Refresher, it's like
the sun just finds me. So sipping these refreshers makes
me the King of Summer. Guilty is charged the Golden
Hour refresher. Only a duncan.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
What happened to the donuts? Don't they have donuts anymore?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
And they want to get away from that because it's
not like a real healthy item. They want to focus
a lot on their coffee. Maybe some of their other
offerings was just Duncan.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Now is that more.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
People go there now for coffee than donuts?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
I guess Duncan coffee is pretty good, I must say,
But you know, donuts so their signature brand be like
Krispy Kreme trying to be something else.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Listen, if you get people hooked on your coffee, you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Know you're like one of these these starbus so called
legal dope dealers in Denver, right, I mean so if
Duncan is that kind of coffee, I'm not a coffee guy,
but if they got that kind of coffee, yeah, I
even bother with the donuts. What what was your favorite
Dunkin donut back when they had them?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Oh, you got to go with the fritters, man, I'm
talking apples.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Oh yeah, oh, I have no question.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah. To me, it was always a toss up between
just a good old fashioned chocolate donut, not like the
fluffy ones.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
What man could eat one of those?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But just a good old fashioned, thick chocolate donuts or
in private toasted coconut just nothing.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Like cocone, A good one.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, yeah, I want to go out and get some
donuts now, it's been a long time. It's all right,
Dear Ryan Parenz. Fat fingered that one? What does it mean?
I ride horses and work construction. Don't want bag you
would need flexibility. Bump suggestion tight fitting jeans by Conway Twitty.
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What's this fat finger You don't have fat fingers?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
No.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
I think they were saying they did in the texting process.
But what I let me clearly articulate what I meant
by what wranglers Again, the literal definition of that term
being cowboy that wrangles cattle.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
So in that work as a cattleman, you.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Don't want skin tight jeans, but you don't like want
super baggy jeans other than get caught on something to
rip off, you know, maybe tear your leg with it.
You want kind of a relaxed fit. Yeah, black cut,
yeah exactly, something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And the way we got on this was earlier, you know,
we were talking about, Okay, this Sydney Sweeney thing. It's
you know, it features a lot of oh your butt
looks great, and these kinds of things. And I was
making the point I don't think that's the focus for
guys when they buy jeans.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I mean it, I don't dispute that it is for
most women.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But the truth is most most women's behinds look great
in jeans, no matter what size they are, you know
what I mean. It's just it's just a physiological thing.
I mean, guys are put together differently than women, and
so for guys, I don't think that's the obsession. That's
why that Wrangler ad remember that that featured the cowboy
and he's walking out of this diner and these like
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girl tight jeans. He just looks so foolish because no
real man.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Is going to do that, That's all. That's all I
was saying.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Okay, so you've kind of like an urban cowboy John
Travolta thing going on here.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, you know the ad IM talking about. I'm sure
everybody can picture it. They run at a billion times.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Right I remember?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, And he just looks so foolish. What what real
man has his butt that tight in his jeans?
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Hold on, hold on a minute. Now, you gotta go
ask Amy this about yourself. She is, you know, she's
madly in love with you, always has been.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
But I gotta.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Believe that she, you know, likes a certain form fitting
pant on her man meaning.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You, Well, I think I'm just speaking of universal truth
here today. I'm not saying this in the context of me.
But they're just a whole lot of people out there,
a whole lot of people out there who look better
with clothes on, you know what I mean? Okay, right,
And so what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is
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jeans and men. It's it's not the same thing as
jeans and women. You know, God created women in such
a way that they just fit so much better into gens,
you know, for guys. That's that's not the thing that
flatters guys, you know. In other words, I'm trying to
think of a modest way to put this. If if
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I tried to buy or wear jeans in such a
way to flatter my best features, I'd look like some
kind of freak, you know what I mean. It it
wouldn't be natural. You know what I'm saying, right, I think,
I mean, yeah, So yeah, we're just made differently. Men
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and women are made differently, you know, for guys in
terms of clothes that can actually show off some of
your you know, best fit features. For guys, that's more
upper body stuff, because if you're trying to wear genes
to show off like lower body features, You're gonna look
like a stupid freak. Hey, help me out here. Yeah,
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three or three seven and three. You know I'm telling
the truth. Three or three seOne three eight two five
five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Jennifer here on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, it's really funny listening to you and
Ryan talk about this, uh this genes ad two men
talking about a woman displaying these genes and how women
look better in genes than men, because I can assure
you the right fitting genes on a man looks pretty nice.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Bingo.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Please educate us because my point, and I think you'd agree,
is that God made men and women differently, and women,
by the very nature of the way they were created,
just virtually every woman alive fits great in genes. Men don't.
I mean, that's just not the way. There are anatomical differences.
Jeanes just don't apply the same way. So can you
(29:19):
enlighten me a little bit?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh no, yes, it's about the fit of the genes.
It's not about look. God made man to look the
way man's supposed to look and woman to look the
way women's supposed to the cut of the genes. You
gotta have the right genes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, what does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I mean, well, they've got they've got to fit right
through the hips and through the thigh and and and they.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Have to be long enough.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I'm a big proponent for men wearing a little bit
longer gene than some men.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Do you mean at the lake, you're talking about the
leg or the what do they call the rise?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You're talking about the middle or the leg.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, that's the whole fit. It's got to be the
the right rise has got to be how the leg
fits through the thigh and knee and the length of
the leg. It's all about fit.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
If you're advising the men in this audience, what is
the right fit?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I think men tend to wear their geens a little
too loose because they're afraid. I think women do it too,
because they're afraid that they won't look good in them.
You know, find your favorite person of the opposite sex
and take them shopping with you and have them.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But wait a second, this is where we get back
to let's be realistic about anatomical differences, because don't men
and I think wisely we're genes looser because they they
want to be modest, they don't want to be offensive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean, go, I have to spell it out.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Well, no, you don't have to stow it out. But
like I said, the right fit is not going to
be offensive, just like with the right fit with a
woman shouldn't be a fense. Now, can we talk about the.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Ad Jennifer, You're wonderful but vague.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Oh, I think the audience knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, Okay, well dam.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know. Well, but but I have I buy them,
I buy them, I wear them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
All.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm saying, well, can we have, like Rodney King said,
the late Rodney King, can we all just get along
in this point that that, as a matter of fact,
the way God created women just anatomically, women are going
to just like drop naturally into jeans and virtually every
woman is going to look great in jeans, and it's
much more challenging for men.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Counselor, I think you're wrong, but I'm losing this argument clearly.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, no, no, no, listen. If I'm wrong, you're winning. But
I just yeah, but but thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thank you very much. What do you think of the
Sydney sweeneyad.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah, here's the thing. I caution everybody from jumping on
one side or another or being whole throated, wholeheartedly for
this ad, because while I am a blue eyed woman
and I get tired of apologizing for having blue eyes,
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I didn't like the hyper sexualization of the ad. I
gotta be honest with you. I mean, there's one thing
about a woman looking attractive and desirable on a pair
of jeene, but it went a little too far from me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now, appreciate that. Thank you, and thank you for the call.
Hope we hear from you often. That's an interesting last point.
You know, our daughter Caroline is a great actress and
she is very much a Sydney Sweeney type, you know,
very attractive blonde. But I would never ever want my
daughter in that ad. I just and that ad is
(32:56):
tame compared to the Brooke Shields ad. So yeah, no,
I would not want my daughter in that ad. At
the same time, I don't think that ad went crazy far,
do you, ran?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I mean, well, and a key distinction here that you've
kind of touched them.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
But I want to nip this in the butt is
Brickshield's fifteen in that ad Cindy Sweeney's twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Seventy seven, twenty seven, a full.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Grown woman, she can do whatever she wants.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And listen that line out there right where where this
ad I thought was and it was intended to be
sexy and all of that, and it generated that I
thought without crossing the line, and I don't I don't
have any problem with that. I understand the last caller's point,
but I don't have any problem with that. I don't
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have any problem with anything having to do with that AD.
What I'm intrigued by is what's going on with the
American Eagle stock because you know, I read all these
stories like everybody else that talks about how great it's doing.
But I'm looking at American Eagle Outfitters down eight percent
in the last week.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
There may be other dynamics with the company, right because
it seems to me that AD is going to do
nothing but help the company because the opposition to it
I don't even think is sincere. But in any case, yeah,
I do not know the dynamics of American Eagle Outfitters.
Final words of wisdom for the day Kelly's been oddly
(34:20):
silent on this.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Well she you know, she was kind of piping up
during my program and add largely these.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Things for herself that our Texters that I would say, yeah, yeah, Well,
thanks to everybody on this. There'll be a lot of
news to cover tomorrow, a lot our local, national political
news and all this. But this thing is gripped America
right now, and I expect it's going to be like
a twenty four to forty eight hour story.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But look forward to having you back tomorrow at four
oh six.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'll give you concrete ways to help Kendrick Castillo's cause
for sainthood. You're on the Dan Capitol Show.
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. You know, the
funny thing about that Sidney Sweeney ad is a lot
of people would look at that and say, you know,
that's the American way, right, kind of an iconic American
(00:23):
look which has nothing to do with race, but an
iconic American look with Sydney Sweeney. So all this controversy
over the ad, I personally believe at least ninety nine
percent of it is fake. That very few of the
people upset about that ad are truly upset. But we'll
get back to breaking that down because I think it
leads a lot of interesting places, and our texts are
(00:43):
exploding on it every Thursday at this time. We're really
privileged to have doctor Catherine Wheeler with us, in part
because of the fact she's a medical doctor, right, and
so when we talk about this most important civil rights
issue of our lifetime, it's great to have just the
straight medical perspective on it, and then doctor talking about
(01:04):
abortion obviously, but then doctor Wheeler brings something additional to
the table because, like Abby Johnson and others you know
who are among the great heroes of the pro life
movements saving so many lives. You know, like Abby, doctor
Wheeler used to be on the other side of this.
She used to conduct abortions. So to have her perspective
(01:24):
and to now have her saving lives is just so valuable.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Doctor. Welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Thank you so much. Dan, it's great to be on again.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, and really appreciate you following up on this topic
we started last week that this pro publica you know,
claiming that these abortion bands or abortion restrictions, now that
row has fallen and people can actually legislate on this,
that they're actually taking lives, and so great to have
(01:56):
the medical perspective to get to the truth on that.
So if you don't mind just picking it up where
we left off and just letting people know what the
truth is there, be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, the last time we did talk.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
About the claim, which is incorrect, that abortion pill complications
that have caused deaths and women in Torgia were actually
caused because of abortion restrictions, and so we talked last
time about how these were unfortunately actually abortion pill complications,
and today I wanted to talk about Texas cases that
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Pro Publica is claiming miscarriages are causing deaths because of
abortion restrictions, and they're tagging along with the American College
of obgi N, which has an ad campaign called Blame
the Bands, and so they're really looking for anything that
is not going well and trying to blame.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It on abortion bands.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Which is actually misinformation. So today I'll talk about miscarriage cases,
and there's three that i'll talk about. The first one Portia,
and I'm going to butcher her last name, Nia Meazi,
who was eleven weeks pregnant. They thought she'd had no
prenatal care, but she presented to an emergency department bleeding
(03:14):
and an ultrasound could not identify a pregnancy. That's called
a pregnancy of undetermined location. And there are three things
that that could be. She could be extremely early with
a normal pregnancy with some bleeding, which happens in about
twenty percent of pregnancies, and usually you can see the
baby with a heartbeat between five and a half and
(03:35):
six weeks, so she could have been prior to that,
she could have nick topic pregnancy, meaning a pregnancy outside
of the uterus, which is life threatening, or she could
be having a miscarriage. So it wasn't clear which one
of those three things was happening. But she was hemorrhaging
to the point of meetings blood transfusions, had two of
them over six hours, and no obstetrician had come to
(03:57):
evaluate her, which was concerning or her partner. But finally
he came and instead of doing a DNC, which is
standard of care when somebody is having life threatening bleeding,
he gave her a drug instead, which takes a while
to act, and she died within three hours. This was
(04:17):
their claim was that DNC is tangled up in state
legislation because of abortion restrictions. And I think what people
need to understand is that DNC is not abortion. DNC
when used to take a baby's life, is abortion. But
we use DNC for miscarriage management. That's legal in every
(04:39):
state and we use it forecology indications, So DNC is
not illegal. That was actually malpractice what happened to her
and very unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And doctor, could you explain what DNC is?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, thank you, So DNC means it's a surgical procedure
where you go through the vagina through the cervix with
a little instrument that looks like a straw, attach it
to section, and you're removing a baby who's already died
with a miscarriage, So you're not causing a death. You're
removing a baby who's passed away in the placenta. So
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that's called a DNC.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And perfectly eagle under Texas law.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's legal in every state. So miscarriage is not abortion.
The management of miscarriage does not change in any of
the states that have abortion restrictions.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So they're just lying about that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, there's this conflation of and I think it's very
intentional of abortion in miscarriage. It confuses people, and instead
of clarifying the law, it's being confused even further by
these media outlets and by the American College of OBQIN,
which is really unfortunate because their job is to be
(05:59):
clarify flying for the public, not causing further confusion and
really contributing to these deaths by confusing people.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, and you're such a kind soul, but they're confusing
people on purpose, which I would define as lying. But
I understand you're here for the medical facts, but thank
you for just educating all of us on that.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You know, the goal is unrestricted access. The goal is
to have abortion in every state constitution, unrestricted, no safeguards
for women, no limitations, no oversight. That's the ultimate goal.
And so that you're right, this is very purposeful.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
And why do you think that's their ultimate goal. It's
one of the things that baffles me as a guy
who used to be a Democrat, and then this commitment
to legalized abortion on demand through labor and delivery drove
me out of the party. But where do you think
that comes from? From your unique perspective? Why are these
(07:02):
interest groups so obsessed with unlimited abortion till the moment
of birth, if not beyond.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, we have to remember there's a lot of money
behind abortion. Money talks. Money is very political. Unfortunately, the
American College of OBGYN has a lot of ties to
the abortion industry. A lot of the leaders there have
ties to Planned parenthood, a lot of the researchers in
medicine have ties to abortion, and so there's a lot
(07:32):
of distortion.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Of facts when you look at.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
The abortion drug mifipristone. Actually, there's so much money that
it makes. Can you even imagine how much money that
is making now? With over seventy percent of abortions in
Colorado and over sixty percent nationally now being done by
these drugs, and both the generic drug and Danco Labs,
(07:58):
who originally brought the drug to the United States, both
of them, that's the only drug they make.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That will tell you how profitable that drug is.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
There is a lot of money behind this.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, well, and I'm sorry to cut a New York
time on the medicine. I think you had another example
out of Texas that was being misrepresented.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I do that article I told you about. The first
one actually referred to an MSNBC article, but it was
by Ryan Hamilton, and so people may recognize him as
a radio voice and podcaster. But he writes about his
wife very unfortunate. But it actually is titled Trump says
leave abortion.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Up to the States.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Texas nearly killed my wife and his wife was thirteen
weeks with their second child, bleeding in pain, goes into
a rural Texas hospital. They did an ultrasound and there's
no fetal heartbeat. So by definition, this is sadly a miscarriage.
So she had three options. One, you actually don't have
to intervene with a miscarriage. Eighty percent of women will
(09:02):
spontaneously miscarry. If they're stable, you can leave them alone.
That's one option. You can offer the DNC, the surgical option,
and you can offer medication which are similar to the
drugs used for a drug and used abortion. And the
doctor apparently refused to do a DNC. She was sent home.
(09:24):
She continued bleeding and having pain for days and passed
out at home. So now he carries her into the
er and obviously he's very upset, but his assumption is
that doctors did not do the DNC because of the
law in fear of criminal prosecution. But the two things
that I think would be helpful for people to understand.
(09:45):
When somebody comes into the emergency room with bleeding and
they're pregnant, if they're stable, they do not have to
be offered an emergency DNC on the spot. What happens,
especially in a rural hospital, usually no induspision in the
hospital all the time. Usually the operating crew is not
(10:05):
in the hospital, so the emergency room is to make
the decision. Is this an emergency where I need to
call everybody in emergently to take care of her, or
is she's stable enough that she can follow up with
an obstetrician and get scheduled as opposed to an emergency,
And apparently they didn't feel it was a true emergency
to call in a crew. So and the second thing
(10:28):
is again, if she's stable, if she's not hemorrhaging like
the first woman, if she doesn't have a fever, if
her service isn't dilated with part tissue passed and part not,
you can observe her and not do an emergency DNC.
So I think that's what a lot of people don't understand,
and he obviously couldn't understand.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well. I really appreciate you coming on each week to
clarify these things doctor, from the medical standpoint that there
is I think so much flat out lying going on
out there about you know, alleged medical facts, to have
you each week to present the true medicine. He's very
much appreciated and we'll look forward to next week.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Thank you so much, Dane. I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Thank you doctor. You take care.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That is doctor Catherine Wheeler, and really appreciate the great
work she does. Hey, when we come back, I want
to get back to that Sydney Sweeney story and the
alleged controversy. Get your take on these ads. Do you
think they're in any way racist or fascist? And the
criticism where do you think it's really coming from?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You're on the Dan Capla.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Show and now back to the Dankapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Wow, glad you're here. You know, this controversy over the
Sydney Sweeney ad really strikes me as fake because it's
it's hard for me to understand how anybody could sincerely
have a problem with this ad. And if you haven't
seen it, if you're new to the issue, it's pretty
darn straightforward. Sidney Sweeney twenty seven year old American actress.
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She's a good actress, I think, been in some hit
TV shows and movies. You know, five foot three, blonde,
blue eyed Ryan describes her.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
How, Ryan, what was your descriptor.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well proportioned curves?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Okay, you know, so kind of one of those kind
of iconic and there are so many different forms of
beauty right size and shapes, everything, but one of those
kind of iconic American beauty models.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So you've got American Eagle.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
This outfitter, you know, clothing men and women, and they
come up with this ad. It's a takeoff on a
Brookshields ad that was back in the eighties where they're
talking about genes J E A N S, but they're
referring to G E N E s and tying in
the whole good genes thing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So here's a here's a taste of it. Cut three.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like hair color, personality, and even eye color. My
genes are blue, Sydney Sweeney has grat geens.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, let me give you a longer form example as well.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
All right, well let's go with Cut two.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle chains,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing. I'm gonna need to do that. But if
you said that you want to buy the jeans, I'm
not gonna stop you. But as we're clear, this is
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not me telling you to buy American Egle chens.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Sydney Sweeney hasbury keenes.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
You see what I did there, right.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, and then I'll get to some of the criticism
in a minute. But the heart of the criticism is,
you know that, hey, this is racist. This is fastest
because she's talking about superior jeans as a white, blue
eyed woman, et cetera. So I want to get your
take on that. Three oh three seven one three A
two five five text d An five seven seven three nine.
Another criticism I'll put that in quotes, is this that
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is clearly targeting whites and claiming these genes are superior.
If it is targeting whites, and I think it probably is.
You know, is there anything wrong with that? Did I
just quote Hillary Clinton? Or was that a Seinfeld quote?
That's kind of scary. And we haven't even had time
today to get to some of the revelations from Chuck
Grassley about Hillary Clinton, but we will get there. Ryan.
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Maybe one of my favorite text ever, Dan, I'm at
a state park surrounded by about sixty people on the
beach blaring your show on abortion truths in my boat.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So many pissed. And that's that's what you live for.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Right, That's quite an interesting choice of programming for the beach.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
I thought he wantedn't want went to the yacht Rock.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah, but whoever you are, please call the show. We
are very grateful to you. Wonder if you're out of
Cherry Creek, but we'd love some more detail on that.
It was kind of like the highlight of my life
as a dad. Not really, but it's up there in
the top ten or twenty. Is uh. I was on air,
Amy was pulling into It was summer and she was
pulling into I think Wells Fargo, and they pull up
(15:20):
next to this car and it's this hot sports car
and the tops down and the radio is blaring and
it's my show and like you know, with the kids,
that was like the greatest thing ever. Wow, somebody actually
listens to that show and he's in a cool car.
Three all three seven to one, three eight two five
five text d an five seven seven three nine And
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I want to get to a bunch of these texts.
But it seems to me that the reason this criticism
must all just be fake and for show and clicks
and everything else is wait a second, she's talking about
good jeans and that she has good jeens that's not
subtle and everything else. But she's I'm not saying other
people don't have good genes. She's not saying her genes
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are better than anybody else, be they of the same
race or a different race. So where would there be
any room to criticize this whatsoever? But love your take,
and if you are critical, we will obviously send the
limo for you.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
There.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I like this text, Dan, Why is this even a conversation?
Probably because the ads themselves are pretty interesting. And then
when you go back to the Brooks Shields version of
this ad that I'll play in a second from the eighties,
which to me was legitimately controversial because those were much
much more sexual than this.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
She's writhing around on the floor at.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Age fifteen, and that to me seemed really highly inappropriate.
Let's just play at cut eight please. This is Brooks
Shields back in the eighties.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
The secret of life lies hidden in the genetic coat
jets a fundamental and determining the characteristics of an individual
and passing on these characteristics two succeeding generations. Occasionally, certain
conditions produce a structural change in the gene which will
bring about the process of evolution. This may occur in
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one or more of the following ways. Firstly, by selective
mating in which is single gene type proof superior and
transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly by gene drift,
in which certain genes may fade away while other genes persist,
and finally by natural selection, which builters out those genes
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better equipped than others to endure in the environment.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
This may result in the origin of an.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Entirely new species which brings us to Calvins and the
survival of the.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Fittest Calvin Klein genes. Yeah, so, don't you think, Ryan,
this is clearly a takeoff on those old Brookshields at
the total marketing standpoint, obviously brilliant everything else. And when
we come back a few more, we've got other news
to cover. But I'll also want to get into what's
been happening to American eagle stock since then. And it's
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not what a lot of people think. What do you
think is going on there? You're on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Interesting day. You know, the Sidney Sweeney topic is so
interesting to me because I think the whole thing's fake.
But at the same time, the spots, you know, the
spots are intriguing to listen to, particularly when you think
about the history that pretty smart marketing, right spinning off
of those very famous and effective Brookshield spots from the eighties.
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But the outrage, to me, I would bet you, is
just entirely made up. I don't see how any person
could be legitimately a set with these ads. They claim
it's racist, they claim it's fascist because she talks about
this blond haired, blue eyed woman having good genes. So
what she does, she's not suggesting in any way, shape
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or form that her genes are better than anybody of
any other race, or anybody of her own race. So
that's why I think this whole thing's made up. Three
or three seven, one, three eight two five five text
d an five seven seven three nine, getting so many
interesting texts on this though. I do want to continue
the conversation a little bit and then we'll shift to
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some other big.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
News of the day.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
But for those who have not heard the spots yet
and you can see why they've been effective, Ryan, why
don't we start with cut three please.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and eve an eye color.
My geens are blue.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sydney Sweeney has great genes. Yeah, and I really wonder
if there is any genuine upset there, whether it would
be so misplaced, but whether it has anything to do
with the fact that, wait a second, she is obviously
very attractive, and you have this entire movement out there
on the left right to kind of redefine what it
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is to be attractive, redefine what it is, you know,
to be American, redefine you know, American culture, et cetera,
American icaga. So it's all of that, and that's one
reason I think we see so much support for these
ads among our Texters. I'd be very surprised if anybody's
in our audience is running out now to buy American
(20:38):
Eagle chains. But I think they appreciate what the company's
doing because it's pushing back against this leftism and the
wocism of the left, etc. That's trying to redefine beauty
in a goofy kind of way, you know what I mean.
I mean, beauty is not Dylan mulvaney. You know, some
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guys wearing a dress not not to the vast majority
of us and and the left for so long wanted
to force us to say, Dylan mulvaney is a beautiful woman,
or we'd be banned from civilized society. And thank god
America stood up and stood up in this election and said, hey,
we got no beef with you know, men who want
to identify as women or whatever, but don't force us
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to lie and stay away from the kids. And and
so I think that very powerful common sense message from
Americans prevailed on election day. And this adds an extension
of that. Three all three seven one, three eight two
five five texts d an five seven seven three nine,
A few more texts on this, and then we'll move
on unless Ryan, you have something that you've just been
(21:42):
dying to say on this.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
No, let's get to those texts.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, so many, Dan. Never does she say superior genes?
Exactly my point. That's why there's no legitimate basis to
be upset by this, Dan, Popeye's Chicken is an overwhelming
amount of African Americans. So is that racist? Why is
it only white people can be called racist? Hypocrisy on
full display? And this is where I would disagree in
this sense, this criticism of the Sydney sweeneyad. It's not
(22:10):
coming from black people. It's not coming from our Hispanic population.
It's not coming from any of our identifiable population.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So this is not a.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Matter of black versus white or anything like that. You know,
if there's any sincere criticism and sincerely wrong, it's coming
from lefties. I gotta get to some of the short ones, Dan.
Now the liberals are blowing gaskets over Dunkin Donuts new ad,
even though the model is actually Italian. You can't make
(22:40):
this stuff up. I think you have that, don't you, Ryan,
the Dunkin Donuts ad. Look, I didn't ask to be
the King of Summer.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
It just kind of happened.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
This tan genetics. I just got my color analysis back.
Guess what Golden Summer? Literally, I can't help it.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Every time I drink Dunkin Golden Hour Refresher, it's like
the sun just finds me. So sipping these refreshers makes
me the King of Summer. Guilty is charged the Golden
Hour refresher. Only a duncan.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
What happened to the donuts? Don't they have donuts anymore?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
And they want to get away from that because it's
not like a real healthy item. They want to focus
a lot on their coffee. Maybe some of their other
offerings was just Duncan.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Now is that more.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
People go there now for coffee than donuts?
Speaker 8 (23:33):
I guess Duncan coffee is pretty good, I must say,
But you know, donuts so their signature brand be like
Krispy Kreme trying to be something else.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Listen, if you get people hooked on your coffee, you.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Know you're like one of these these starbus so called
legal dope dealers in Denver, right, I mean so if
Duncan is that kind of coffee, I'm not a coffee guy,
but if they got that kind of coffee, yeah, I
even bother with the donuts. What what was your favorite
Dunkin donut back when they had them?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
Oh, you got to go with the fritters, man, I'm
talking apples.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Oh yeah, oh, I have no question.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah. To me, it was always a toss up between
just a good old fashioned chocolate donut, not like the
fluffy ones.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
What man could eat one of those?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But just a good old fashioned, thick chocolate donuts or
in private toasted coconut just nothing.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Like cocone, A good one.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, yeah, I want to go out and get some
donuts now, it's been a long time. It's all right,
Dear Ryan Parenz. Fat fingered that one? What does it mean?
I ride horses and work construction. Don't want bag you
would need flexibility. Bump suggestion tight fitting jeans by Conway Twitty.
(24:47):
What's this fat finger You don't have fat fingers?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
No.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
I think they were saying they did in the texting process.
But what I let me clearly articulate what I meant
by what wranglers Again, the literal definition of that term
being cowboy that wrangles cattle.
Speaker 6 (25:01):
So in that work as a cattleman, you.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Don't want skin tight jeans, but you don't like want
super baggy jeans other than get caught on something to
rip off, you know, maybe tear your leg with it.
You want kind of a relaxed fit. Yeah, black cut,
yeah exactly, something like that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And the way we got on this was earlier, you know,
we were talking about, Okay, this Sydney Sweeney thing. It's
you know, it features a lot of oh your butt
looks great, and these kinds of things. And I was
making the point I don't think that's the focus for
guys when they buy jeans.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I mean it, I don't dispute that it is for
most women.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
But the truth is most most women's behinds look great
in jeans, no matter what size they are, you know
what I mean. It's just it's just a physiological thing.
I mean, guys are put together differently than women, and
so for guys, I don't think that's the obsession. That's
why that Wrangler ad remember that that featured the cowboy
and he's walking out of this diner and these like
(25:58):
girl tight jeans. He just looks so foolish because no
real man.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Is going to do that, That's all. That's all I
was saying.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
Okay, so you've kind of like an urban cowboy John
Travolta thing going on here.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, you know the ad IM talking about. I'm sure
everybody can picture it. They run at a billion times.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
Right I remember?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, And he just looks so foolish. What what real
man has his butt that tight in his jeans?
Speaker 8 (26:29):
Hold on, hold on a minute. Now, you gotta go
ask Amy this about yourself. She is, you know, she's
madly in love with you, always has been.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
But I gotta.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Believe that she, you know, likes a certain form fitting
pant on her man meaning.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
You, Well, I think I'm just speaking of universal truth
here today. I'm not saying this in the context of me.
But they're just a whole lot of people out there,
a whole lot of people out there who look better
with clothes on, you know what I mean? Okay, right,
And so what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is
(27:07):
jeans and men. It's it's not the same thing as
jeans and women. You know, God created women in such
a way that they just fit so much better into gens,
you know, for guys. That's that's not the thing that
flatters guys, you know. In other words, I'm trying to
think of a modest way to put this. If if
(27:31):
I tried to buy or wear jeans in such a
way to flatter my best features, I'd look like some
kind of freak, you know what I mean. It it
wouldn't be natural. You know what I'm saying, right, I think,
I mean, yeah, So yeah, we're just made differently. Men
(27:54):
and women are made differently, you know, for guys in
terms of clothes that can actually show off some of
your you know, best fit features. For guys, that's more
upper body stuff, because if you're trying to wear genes
to show off like lower body features, You're gonna look
like a stupid freak. Hey, help me out here. Yeah,
(28:20):
three or three seven and three. You know I'm telling
the truth. Three or three seOne three eight two five
five text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Jennifer here on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, it's really funny listening to you and
Ryan talk about this, uh this genes ad two men
talking about a woman displaying these genes and how women
look better in genes than men, because I can assure
you the right fitting genes on a man looks pretty nice.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Bingo.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Please educate us because my point, and I think you'd agree,
is that God made men and women differently, and women,
by the very nature of the way they were created,
just virtually every woman alive fits great in genes. Men don't.
I mean, that's just not the way. There are anatomical differences.
Jeanes just don't apply the same way. So can you
(29:19):
enlighten me a little bit?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Oh no, yes, it's about the fit of the genes.
It's not about look. God made man to look the
way man's supposed to look and woman to look the
way women's supposed to the cut of the genes. You
gotta have the right genes.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Well, what does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I mean, well, they've got they've got to fit right
through the hips and through the thigh and and and they.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Have to be long enough.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I'm a big proponent for men wearing a little bit
longer gene than some men.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Do you mean at the lake, you're talking about the
leg or the what do they call the rise?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You're talking about the middle or the leg.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, that's the whole fit. It's got to be the
the right rise has got to be how the leg
fits through the thigh and knee and the length of
the leg. It's all about fit.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
If you're advising the men in this audience, what is
the right fit?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I think men tend to wear their geens a little
too loose because they're afraid. I think women do it too,
because they're afraid that they won't look good in them.
You know, find your favorite person of the opposite sex
and take them shopping with you and have them.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
But wait a second, this is where we get back
to let's be realistic about anatomical differences, because don't men
and I think wisely we're genes looser because they they
want to be modest, they don't want to be offensive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I mean, go, I have to spell it out.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Well, no, you don't have to stow it out. But
like I said, the right fit is not going to
be offensive, just like with the right fit with a
woman shouldn't be a fense. Now, can we talk about the.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Ad Jennifer, You're wonderful but vague.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Oh, I think the audience knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Okay, Okay, well dam.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You know. Well, but but I have I buy them,
I buy them, I wear them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
All.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I'm saying, well, can we have, like Rodney King said,
the late Rodney King, can we all just get along
in this point that that, as a matter of fact,
the way God created women just anatomically, women are going
to just like drop naturally into jeans and virtually every
woman is going to look great in jeans, and it's
much more challenging for men.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Counselor, I think you're wrong, but I'm losing this argument clearly.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, no, no, no, listen. If I'm wrong, you're winning. But
I just yeah, but but thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thank you very much. What do you think of the
Sydney sweeneyad.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah, here's the thing. I caution everybody from jumping on
one side or another or being whole throated, wholeheartedly for
this ad, because while I am a blue eyed woman
and I get tired of apologizing for having blue eyes,
(32:19):
I didn't like the hyper sexualization of the ad. I
gotta be honest with you. I mean, there's one thing
about a woman looking attractive and desirable on a pair
of jeene, but it went a little too far from me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now, appreciate that. Thank you, and thank you for the call.
Hope we hear from you often. That's an interesting last point.
You know, our daughter Caroline is a great actress and
she is very much a Sydney Sweeney type, you know,
very attractive blonde. But I would never ever want my
daughter in that ad. I just and that ad is
(32:56):
tame compared to the Brooke Shields ad. So yeah, no,
I would not want my daughter in that ad. At
the same time, I don't think that ad went crazy far,
do you, ran?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
I mean, well, and a key distinction here that you've
kind of touched them.
Speaker 8 (33:10):
But I want to nip this in the butt is
Brickshield's fifteen in that ad Cindy Sweeney's twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Seventy seven, twenty seven, a full.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Grown woman, she can do whatever she wants.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And listen that line out there right where where this
ad I thought was and it was intended to be
sexy and all of that, and it generated that I
thought without crossing the line, and I don't I don't
have any problem with that. I understand the last caller's point,
but I don't have any problem with that. I don't
(33:39):
have any problem with anything having to do with that AD.
What I'm intrigued by is what's going on with the
American Eagle stock because you know, I read all these
stories like everybody else that talks about how great it's doing.
But I'm looking at American Eagle Outfitters down eight percent
in the last week.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
There may be other dynamics with the company, right because
it seems to me that AD is going to do
nothing but help the company because the opposition to it
I don't even think is sincere. But in any case, yeah,
I do not know the dynamics of American Eagle Outfitters.
Final words of wisdom for the day Kelly's been oddly
(34:20):
silent on this.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Well she you know, she was kind of piping up
during my program and add largely these.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Things for herself that our Texters that I would say, yeah, yeah, Well,
thanks to everybody on this. There'll be a lot of
news to cover tomorrow, a lot our local, national political
news and all this. But this thing is gripped America
right now, and I expect it's going to be like
a twenty four to forty eight hour story.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But look forward to having you back tomorrow at four
oh six.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'll give you concrete ways to help Kendrick Castillo's cause
for sainthood. You're on the Dan Capitol Show.
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