March 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams fills in for Dan once again, introducing GOP candidate for Colorado governor and fellow Sheriff Jason Mikesell (Teller County) to tell why he's decided to enter the race.
Also, Republican minority leader Rep. Ty Winter (R-47) provides an update from the golden dome of the Colorado General Assembly.
Also, Republican minority leader Rep. Ty Winter (R-47) provides an update from the golden dome of the Colorado General Assembly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Sang on my phone.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I don't some of you know this on the iPhone.
They've got that little stock app. I added Tesla Tude
to give me a little boost during the day two
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
And if you own one.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
If you own one, we're not blaming you. You can
you can take dental floss and pull the Tesla thing off,
you know, and take out of just telling you and well,
this nation guy could kick most of their ass. I
do that.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I know I can't run them, but I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We're going to fall into that place where we want to. Okay,
we challenge you to a do you know, a wwe
fight here type of thing.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. We're starting off with
something like that because the show can only go up
from here. As you can tell you're not listening to
Dan Capless and Self today, you have Sheriff Steve Riams
filling in for a second day in a row here,
but I just couldn't help but started to show off
with such a low note with tampon Tim getting ready
to take on all the Republicans. You know, I don't
(01:12):
know if he's looking for volunteers to get into the
ring with, but I'm more than happy to be the
first on the agenda. Oh, I can't think of anything
more that I would like to do than to wrestle
or box tampon Tim. Make him use one of those
to fix his bloody nose.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Keep going with that. And also, if you remember the
JD Vance Jim from the office side eye look during
the debate and then the wide eyed look by Tim Walls,
that would be the look he had when Sheriff Steve
Reams is coming into the ring.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I would love to see his wild hands trying to
figure out how he's going to amaze me with everything
he's going to do.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
There's gestures and waves and gallivanting.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
This guy has no tough guy status whatsoever, but he's
trying to flex tough guy status. And look, you know,
you either do or you don't. But he has to
have a family around him that just looks at him.
And says, yeah, you're a dad guy. Don't try to
be the tough guy. Lean into that. Don't try to
get into a boxing room. You're going to get your
butt kicked.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
You're right, But you think about the family around him.
Wasn't his wife Gwen the one that she doesn't blink
and then she was just looking at the audience, going
turn the page, turn the page. It was like a
villain from a Stephen King movie or something.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, you know, when Harris picked him as her vice
presidential running mate, she used the same playbook that Biden
did and said, who could I pick that would be
worse than me? And she found him, I mean, the
most awkward guy ever, and yeah, the most awkward family ever.
I don't know. I kept thinking this guy would go away,
but he keeps trying to be relevant.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
So you look at the diminishing returns of the domino
effect you described their sheriff and Obama of course picked
Biden for the reason you obsoluted. So then Biden picks
Kamala for that reason, and then Kamala picks Walls for
that reason. Where do you go from Walls aoc lower?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't know. I think at some point you're picking
like a bean bag or a trash bag or something.
You know, sack up a Yeah, it's a mess, but hey,
as long as they're in free fall, let's let him
stay that way. And you know, hopefully the Democrats in
Colorado will take a page out of that playbook and
they'll they'll start pushing to those crazy far leftists to
run for the highest office. And I didn't I don't
(03:16):
think you can. I didn't think you could get much
farther to the left than Jared Polis. But I have
a feeling in this next election cycle we're going to
see some we're going to see some weirdo's come out
of the woodworks. But when we're talking about candidates for governor,
you know, I'm worried about what's going to come from
the left, but I'm pretty I'm pretty hopeful with what's
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going to come from the right. And uh here recently
we had a candidate that announced that he was going
to run for governor on the Republican side. He's a
guy that I've known for a little bit of time.
He's the sheriff in Teller County. His name is Jason
mike Sel And we're going to start off the show
with giving Jason Mikexel some time to kind of talk
about why he's getting in the race and what he
(03:59):
can bring to the state of Colorado. Jason, how you doing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm good, Steve, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I'm doing great. Hey, thanks for coming on the show.
You know, like I said, I've known you for a
long time. I think a lot of people in southern
Colorado know you. Here. Recently, you've made a splash in
the news taking on the ACLU and pushing some immigration
bills at the state capitol that obviously took a fiery
demise from the Democrats. But why don't you take just
a few minutes to introduce yourself as a candidate and
(04:25):
kind of give your background a little bit so that
we can get to know you and so the listeners
can get to know you.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
My name is Jason Mike sol I'm a third generation
Colorado and I grew up in the car Springs area,
born in car Springs. I'll tell you, I love Colorado.
I grew up here and I remember running the woods
and just being a part of everything that had to
be Colorado at the time, just the freedoms that we
were given. And you know, I've been in law enforcement
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almost thirty years now. I left law enforcement, retired for
a short time, started my own companies. I've had both
big companies that I've had to scale and I've had
small companies now that I wanted to create an environment
within my own county that they have people had places
to go, and so I and my wife actually invested
back into our local community. And really, I love business
and I love all the things to do that, and
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I love being a sheriff and protecting a community and
just being part of that community. And really, Colorado is
home and it is my community all across Sport everywhere
I go, and I meet such great sheriffs and people.
So that's one of the reasons I wanted to run,
and really I want and we have a tagline, so
it's I want my Colorado back, and I truly do.
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But I want it back for our children, and I
want it back for the freedoms that they should be
able to get. And I want young people to be
able to buy homes and go to state parks and
not have to pay all these crazy fees and be
able to drive down a highway and Colorado do not
have to pay a toll just because so hunting fishing
has been a big part of my life also and
really enjoying our outdoors, and it's really coming under fire lately.
(05:58):
And I just finally woke up with more and said,
you know, it's time to stand up and just do
the right thing. And knowing that I was going to
get blasted by the Democratic side, a very leftist Democrat side,
but I think there's a large part of Colorado that
just really wanted to be a Colorado where you can
be free and enjoy what we have here in the states.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
All those things are I think things that resonate with
a lot of the voters here in Colorado. And to
make things clear, you're going to be running on the
Republican side. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
But just for the listener's sake, where do you see
your pathway to winning? I mean, what's the message that
you have that no one else does? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think leadership, clear leadership. We haven't really had a
clear leader in Colorado in a mayor position, are in
a governor position for a very long time. And here's
the thing I have dealt with large Colorado wildfires. I've
dealt with mine incidences within my own county that have
been the international incidences. You know, you steal so many
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things as a and Colorado when it deals with leadership
and making decisions, and I think, you know, that's that's
something you can't teach. It's something that you have to
have that badge of ownership and have earned. And the
other side owning businesses and understanding, you know, how you
treat employees, how you deal with things, and how you
grow companies because Colorado has really got to grow, right,
We've we've got a lot of crisises within Colorado budget crisises.
(07:22):
You know, we're one three one point three billion dollars
shortfall for the year, and in any business they would fire.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
The leadership for doing that.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, So you know, there's so many different things steve
that that really I think is a path to win
in this state. And a lot of it has to
do with our crisis in law enforcement, our mental health,
the fact that we're just taking tax payer money and
throwing it out the door and we're given it to
people that have come here undocumented and illegally into the state.
That that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, we have Jason Michael on the line as candidate
for governor, Republican candidate for governor, just giving us a
little bit of his background and his reasoning for getting
into the governor's race. You hinted to it just a
little bit about, you know, kind of the attack on
law enforcement or the general tone towards law enforcement. You know,
you've you've been a sheriff for what six years? Eight
(08:11):
years somewhere in there.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yeah, what have you seen that?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
What have you seen that the tone change in your
time of not just as sheriff, but in law enforcement
in general. And where do you think that takes the
state of Colorado in general?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Where to start?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean, you know, I remember back in the day
law enforcement was able to do what was needed to
protect the citizens. I look at it now and I go,
you have a group like the ACLU that's firing off
letters to sheriffs basically saying they're going to go after
deputies who they believe are doing the wrong things. You've
got more lawsuits that are happening towards law enforcement because
(08:46):
current legislation is opening the door for that. You have
a state legislature that's reducing laws in Colorado, like we're
dealing with one today. I have people testifying on which
is extreme indifference. So if somebody shoots in your house
as they drive by, or temps skill a law enforcement
officer but they miss, they're going to reduce that from
a Class two felony down to a classify phony so
(09:08):
that those people can be released on parole. Sure, we're
shutting down prisons at a record pace and then we're
releasing them back into parle which then go after communities.
And I hear a lot of issues about well, you know,
the single moms and the mothers are trying to buy
eggs because the cost of groceries. Don't totally get that.
But when they go back to their car and their
car has been broken into, it doesn't help there either.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I think there's a lot of issues I've seen that
far are far beyond the pale. And problem is not
going to get any better. With the candidates on seeing
that are running and the lack of understanding of what
the second order of impacts are when they produce these laws,
it's just going to get worse.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Absolutely. So you hinted a little issue about the ACLU.
We're going to take a break, if you'll stand by
with us through the break. When we come back, I
want to open up with kind of your battles with
the ACL you I've had my own. We can commiserate
over that just a little bit. But we'll go to break,
hang out with us, Jason, and as soon as we
come back, we'll dive right back in. You're listening to
the Dan Caplis Show and you have Sheriff Steve Reims
(10:08):
as guest host.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. You got Sheriff
Steve Reims setting in for day number two. Real pleasure
to be here filling in for Dan. Like I said yesterday,
he's a person I love to listen to. He and
Ryan both big fan and it's just really cool to
be sitting in the seat today. But when we went
to break, we were talking with with Sheriff Jason mike
(10:35):
Sel from Tuller County who's announced that he's a candidate
for governor, And before we went to break, he was
talking a little bit about some of the issues he's
faced as sheriff, and I know one of those is
dealing with the ACLU which I like to call the
Alien Civil Liberties Unit, Unit Union, whatever you want to
call him. They certainly don't represent Americans too much anymore.
(10:55):
And I know Jason had quite a run in with him.
So Jason, let's come back with how did you end
up dealing with the ACLU and what was the issue
that you were fighting to push for your agency?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Well, really it started like two days after I became
a sheriff. I had the first call from the ACA
you basically killing me. Hey, listen, are you going to
get on board like other shriffs? So I started calling
around to find out what had happened. And what they're
wanting me to do is sign a letter saying that
I would not detain, I would not arrest, I would
not assist ice in any operations. And part of the
(11:29):
problem that I ran into was that when we had
the black market marijuana epidemic that was running, and we
had lots of cartels in my county because they just
grow marijuana, and every time I ran into one of
these places, we were dealing with criminal, illegal aliens, And
really that was driving a lot of the FEN and
a lot of sexual traffic and a lot of issues
in the Colorado and into my area as well. So
(11:51):
when we started arresting these folks for doing crimes in Colorado,
we started contacting ICE. Well, when I was doing the
detentions on these people the Aco, you became very unhappy
because they wanted me to basically bond them and release
them and not contact ICE. But when I start talking
to ICE, some of these people were, you know, they're
pretty nasty criminals. They had criminalistories from everywhere.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
That's shocking they don't.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was just shocking to me and I went, why
would I want to release this person back in my
community right? And really what they try to do is
they didn't even call around the restaurants in different areas
in my county to find out how I treated, you know,
Hispanic population or other populations. And what they got back
from people is they liked me. And there was this
false narrative push constantly, and we were winning in court
(12:37):
with them. We were running willing in the legislatures because
they weren't able to get their bills across. And even
when we had the appeals court decision that said, hey,
the sheriff can't arrest people, they still upheld that I
could actually still having a two eighty seven G program
with ICE, and that we could still go and work
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with ICE, and that prior to that, they'd put out
a letter saying that, you know, I had lost the case,
and they knew I couldn't say anything because we're right
in the middle of it. Yeah, you have the letter,
and it shocked me because they knew I couldn't say anything.
So when it finally ended, I put out a statement, Hey,
you know we're still standing. We won because we did
and I'm still doing the two eighty seven G program.
(13:18):
But what they really did was they pushed this far
false narrative that I was out to get every illegal
immigrant in Colorado and that wasn't the case. And actually,
I've been to so many countries and illegal immigrants or
immigration isn't a bad thing. You want people to come here,
you want them to work, you want them to enjoy
it with just want them to do it the right way.
And what the Aco you really doesn't like is that
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we arrested someone not very long ago who was a
criminal illegal alien. The person that makes the arrest is
from another country here on a work visa, working for me,
and he makes the arrest. The person does a two
eighty seven G program, came to America, ended up getting
their work visas, getting their American citizenship. They got to
swear under oath to be an American citizen in my uniform.
(14:04):
And they're the ones I sent the two eighty seven
G program, and they're the ones that did the two
eighty seven G program. So it's hard for them to
argue with me that I hate immigrants, but I just
wanted to do right dealing with this criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So Jason from that, I think that kind of puts
you in the action of trying to push Senateville forty
seven that we saw die a fiery death this legislative season,
but it wasn't without remark and if you would kind
of form the listeners about what Senate Bill forty seven
was aiming at doing.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Well, some of Bill zero forty seven basically it went
after dealing with criminal illegal aliens only, and we even
talked about the fact that we wouldn't be able to
do stop and ask for papers, We wouldn't be able to,
you know, just arrest people because they're Hispanic, we wouldn't
be able to do round up operations. But what it
did say is that we could work with ICE. It
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allowed the State of Colorado actually to speak with ICE
about people that incarcerated in jails and allow us to
jail people for ICE so that that we could house
more criminal illegal aliens in the state of Colorado. And
that bill, which really had a horrible death because it
was party line vote. Again, weird people testifying against it
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that really didn't even know what the bill said. Their
whole testimony was, well, you're going to do round up operations. Well,
it says in the bill you can, and on and
on and on and on, and it just it was
amazing to me that we want criminal illegal aliens. And
you know, Steve, I didn't know if you know this,
but Colorado actually had a bill it passed two years
ago that funds legal operations for illegal aliens. Yes, to
(15:42):
fight these things. Yeah, yeah, we have our taxpayer dollars
are doing that.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
We have a taxpayer funded organization or taxpayer fund that
helps defend illegals from the deportation process. It's it's absurd,
it's obscene, but that's what the State of Colorado is.
And in a narrative in this where we're seeing you know,
apartment complexes being taken over, which by the way, actually happened,
despite the mainstream media trying to tell everybody that it didn't.
(16:09):
You come forward with a common sense bill. You you
found some sponsors down at the state House said look,
we're just trying to get rid of the bad ones.
Let us do our job, and they killed it on
a party line vote. I mean, if it died a
very fiery death, but it wasn't without note. I mean,
you know, sometimes message bills are exactly that, and I
think you delivered a loud message.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well I appreciate it, Steve, just I tell you that
was a tough road.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, we're talking with Sheriff Jason Michel from Teller County.
He's a candidate for governor here in the state of
Colorado or Colorado on the Republican side. We got just
a few minutes left, Jason, if you want to take it,
you know, this last minute and a half and kind
of explain to the listener where they can find more
about you, some of your key points for your campaign,
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and if they want to support you, how they can
do so the best.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I have a campaign platform. It's on It's a web page.
You can go to Mike School. It's m I K, E,
S E L L or gov the number four gov
dot com. All my platforms are there. It has all
the information that you need. You can make donations there.
You can actually ask to help us on that site.
So if you would just go to it, you can
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see everything you have and I can answer any questions
you may have for it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, that's that's a good start. I got one question.
Are the roads in Tyler County and Colorado Springs as
bad down there as they are everywhere else in the state.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'd say our roads are atrocious. It's it's a travesy.
I come from other states. I'll drive in the state
of Colorado when I'm when I'm out visiting family and friends,
and you know, when you cross into Colorado there's no missing.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I just have to say, if any if any one
pillar of your campaign can be fixing the roads, please
add that in. Jason, we really appreciate you coming on
the show. You know, it's great having a candidate jump in.
I'm sure there'll be some more on the radio show
before too long. But again thanks to Jason Michel from
Teller County for getting on with the Dan Kapla show.
You have Steve Raims his guest host.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Thank you you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Welcome back to the Dan Caples Show. You're here with
Steve Raims, Weld County Sheriff as the guest host today.
And before we get to the next guest, I just
want to throw out a couple of numbers here. If
you want to call into the show, it's three oh
three seven one three eight two five five or the
text line start your text with Dan at five seven,
seven thirty nine. Our next guest is Ty Winter. And
if you were paying attention to the song that Ryan played,
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that should have been a prelude. But Ty Winter is
the state rep from HD forty seven. He's also the
assistant Minority leader. But I knew him first as the
Las Animus County GOP chair, and quite honestly, he represented
what I believe is the polar opposite of a guy
like Tampon Tim who we led to show with. Ty
(19:11):
Winter is a true rock star. He's a solid guy
for the Republicans and I'm glad to have him on
the line.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Ty, how you doing good, Sheriff?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
It great to be with you. And thank you for
all the compliments, and right back at you, sir, I
appreciate what you do for Wild County in the state
of Colorado, and it's an honor to be on with
you today.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Well, we have a chance to get to know each
other during the Red Flag saga, and you invited me
down to speak to your GOP group down there, and
I was blown away with the amount of turnout that
you produced down there in the southern part of Colorado.
You had a following, and I'm sure you're continuing to
foster that today with your work down at the State House.
But I won't eat up too much time sending praises
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your way. You've earned all those. As the assistant Minority leader,
you've kind of got a little bigger burden to carry
down there, and I know you're pushing a bill that
I think is good for all of Colorado. That's House
Bill twenty. Tell us about that.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Bill, Yes, sir, it's really exciting. I mean, it's important
in some ways. It doesn't do a whole lot in
some ways, but I think it's huge first and foremost,
as we see our oil and gas industry being killed
here at the state Capitol. That's unfortunate. But at the
end of the day, we know the wind and solar
aren't going to be the only things that power this state.
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We need base load power and we just aren't going
to get it with intermittent power. So myself and Representative
Eldez out of Denver, we ran House Bill ten forty.
And what that does is that first and foremost, it
brings federal language and state language together. It takes nuclear
energy out of green energy and puts it in clean
That's the first part of the bill. But the most
important part of the bill is it it's going to
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replace that severage tax that we've lost through oil and gas.
And you know, these small modular reactors and these microreactors,
the technology is unbelievable. Uses left land a lot less water,
and I think that you know, unfortunately the end date
that the Colorado Democrats have set on oil and gaps
in this state. This is our only next true step
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to being able to power Colorado.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And where do you see that bill going? Is it
gonna Is it going to get the support it needs
or are we gonna Are we gonna see nuclear energy
welcomed into the state of Colorado.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
It's on the governor's desks, or made it out of
the House, that made it out on the Senate. We're
just waiting for it to be signed.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Do you mean a bill with bipartisan support made it
to the governor's desk? Say it's not.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
So it did start, and it's exciting. You know, we
had myself and Ret Valdez here in the House, and
we had Senator Robertson Senator Listing over in the Senate,
and it's an exciting new day for Colorado. And you know,
basically what this is is a conversation. This is the
cornerstone to foundation. This opens up talks and then hopefully
they still get people excited and investors excited to come
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in and you know, have these conversations and see what
communities actually want these in their community and hopefully we
get some build outs started.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Well, I got to tell you it's good to have
just a little bit of positive news. Even if this
isn't you know, seeing nuclear energy start tomorrow, at least
it's a pathway to a future here in Colorado. We
know energy demands are going to continue to go up,
and at least you're creating that pathway. So we went
from talking to the good and you know, we got
to shift gears a little bit. Let's talk about the bad,
which I'm sure there's a lot of it down there.
(22:19):
What's the bill that you've seen just be the worst mess?
I'm guessing Senate Bill three, but maybe you've got a different.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
One, you know, sir, when it comes to you know,
constitutional rights, by far, Senate Bill three is the biggest
mess that we face. I mean, we could be on
here for the next forty eight hours to try to
pick out every bad bill that rolls through the Yeah. No, kid,
to be honest with you, there's a there's a ton
of bad legislation.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Actually, I don't know if you saw what happened in Pueblo.
Chief Noler just did a press conference that three officers
were shot in Pueblo last night. Yeah, and you know
somebody that had, you know, been a career criminal basically.
So we see a lot of anti law enforcement, soft
on crime legislation. You and I both know that, you know,
we believe if you commit a crime, you should be
punished for it. I know you strike the same vein
(23:05):
so all the anti law enforcements, soft on crime legislation
is bad. But I would have to say Senate Bill
three is probably the most egregious attack on our amendments
in this building by far since I've been here.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
What's the tone been like as that bill has traveled
through the House and the Senate. Yeah, I know, you
said on at least one of the committees that heard
that bill, what was the testimony like, what was the
back and forth like between the Republicans and Democrats?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
You know, basically it's what you could expect, sir. You know,
you have Republicans fighting for constitutional rights, fighting for life,
basically the ability to protect protect life, liberty, and property.
We see the crime issues and we understand how you
know important the Second Amendment is. You know, like Colonel
Colt said, you know, God made man that Colonel Colt
made them all equal, and that's huge. I think that's
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really big. So, you know, it was a big fight
in the Senate, and my roommate, Senator Palton, him and
Byron Pealton fought it really hard. The Senate committee and
of course the Senate Republicans gave it a pretty good
beating on the floor. It's been amended a million times, right,
you real.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Completely changed a couple of times really.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, it's to make it palatable for the governor. That's
the talk in the building. You know. I think that
the far left Dems would have pushed it through the
way it originally was, but I think they knew the
only way that the governor would think about even signing
it is with these amendments. That way, you know, he could,
you know, make it palatable for himself. So right now
we heard it in committee, then we have it in finance.
(24:31):
That was on Friday, and the rumor is is that
I'm pretty sure it's scheduled for Friday, this Friday on
the House floor. You know, we'll gabble in and you
know we're going to go to work on this thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Well, it's got to have a huge appropriation tag to it,
our fiscal note, I would think. And with the state
legislature being so up down, upside down for the state budget,
do you think there's any chance that that kills the
bill or are we just going to have to see
if this goes to the governor's desk and we can
talk him out of signing it.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I think it's going to make the governor's death or
he housed it in CPW, you know, he's put a
ton of responsibility back on the sheriffs testified. I said,
it was unenforceable. Now you guys are going to be
hit with an you know, unfunded mandate, which then you're
going to have to hit your folks with is another
unfunded mandate. But some of the huge things that you know,
we listen to a lot of people testify, and I learned,
(25:21):
you know, we usually hear you know, Second Amendment arguments, constitutional,
you know, come and take it, but the arguments were
so much different this time, Sheriff. I mean, we had
folks talk about how gun rights or civil rights, how
are people with learning disabilities, how's this going to limit
their assets of firearms? The financial barriers. This is almost
creating a class system where the rich will have guns
(25:42):
and the poor won't. It's just disgusting. I mean, we've
talked about we talked about source causes, whether it be
mental health or lack of morality and family values. Like
I said, we heard from the sheriffs who were totally
ignored and then can CEPW do the job in a
timely fashion? And I think the one thing that we've
learned about this, sir, is that it's death by a
thousand cuts. They want to skirt up against the Second
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Amendment because they.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Know effectually, through serious.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Legislation, they can't kill it, so they just keep making
They put putting paywalls and roadblocks and death by a
thousand cuts. So you know, it's just hard to see
this play out with anti gun bill after anti gun bill.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
It seems like every session that you know, they stack
one on top of the other. You already have a
three day waiting period, you already have a background check
when you go to buy a gun. Now you're going
to have a class and a certificate, another background check,
I mean your card that you have to carry so
you can buy a gun. I mean, it just it
gets to the point where it's it's utter ridiculousness. And
all the while, do criminals follow any of that?
Speaker 7 (26:41):
No, sir, no, sir, such a such a yeah, no, no, no,
they don't care about it. This was just disarm law
biting citizens. And what makes it even more disgusted than
anything because they're taking a god given, unalienable right and
creating and making it a government privilege. And that should
scare every American because we know when we lose the
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second the first isn't far behind.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Absolutely, Ty, you can have said it better. Hey, we
really appreciate the work that you're doing down there. You've
been a fighter, you've been a yeoman down at the
state Capitol. I hope you stay down there for as
long as they'll have you. Maybe there's a Senate run
in your future. Like I said, I think you are
truly one of those guys that represents the future of
this party. You are a hard working dude, and I've
seen it from before you made it to the State House.
(27:26):
I mean, you set your county up to foster success
amongst the Republican Party and I couldn't be prouder to
know you.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Same here, Shirp. I appreciate you, my Brotherren. You know,
most importantly, let's fix this state in God bless America.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Thanks for being with us, Ty, and we're going to
cut to break. You're listening to The Dan Kaplas Show
with Steve Reims as guest host.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
If you're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show, have Steve Reams,
the Well County Sheriff filling in for day number two
for Dan and you know We've had some guests on already.
We had Jason Mike sel Teller kind of sheriff. He
was the he's running for a Republican governor seat. And
Ty Winter, the HD forty seven rep and assistant minority leader,
(28:15):
kind of talking about you know, what's going on down
to the State House and if there are any wins,
you know, what do they look like? And we know
they're thin, but at least we got a few guys
fighting for us. So yesterday after the show, I got
a couple of text messages and messages through Facebook, and
one that I couldn't ignore was is there anything good
that came from the police reform movement in twenty nineteen,
(28:37):
twenty twenty twenty twenty one. Was there any one good
thing that surfaced? And I had to scratch my brain
a little bit. Send it Bill two seventeen, House Built
twelve twelve fifty, or the two bills that come to
mind most. But there is one positive that I think
has come out of that legislation, and it's a little
thing called the post Portal. And for those of you
that are interested in knowing, you know, good cops versus
(29:00):
bad cops, which is very important to me, especially if
we're potentially hiring a new person. Anybody in Colorado can
can do a Google search to the Colorado Post Portal
and you do a little do a little deep dive,
and it doesn't take much, but you can get to
a page that will show you you can find I
think it's tad to here, find action on individual officers,
(29:23):
and you can just start scrolling through officers that have
been placed on the on the i'll say bad cop list,
and it goes by most recent to you know, most
I guess most historical, and I couldn't help. But when
I logged in today and I was kind of looking
at the looking at the page, I noticed there were
two Department of Corrections folks that have been put on
(29:45):
that screen. And it's the first time I've seen anyone
from DC in there for a very long time. And
it looks like they're both put on there for forgery,
which I'm assuming that has something to do with training records.
But I say that because initially this post Portal and
Senate Bill two seventeen wasn't going to apply to anything
other than county officers and local officers, and we actually
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the rest of us kind of fought and said, now
this needs to be equally applied. You know, you can
have bad cops anywhere, and to see those two doc
officers on there was a little shocking. I think one
of them, if memory serves me right, was connected to
Evan Ebel as the parole officer when the former Director
of Prisons, Tom Clements was killed by that individual. So
(30:28):
a lot of ties there. I hope that someone does
a deeper dive into why those two people appeared on
the post portal. As a law enforcement officer, I want
to make sure we get rid of bad cops, and
hopefully someone will dig into those names. I obviously don't
have the time to do that today, but as we're
going through kind of what the tone of the day is,
(30:49):
you know, we had a governor's candidate on here. I'm
sure a lot of you have an opinion about who
could run for governor in the state of Colorado. And
when I happen to have an opinion, I'd love to
hear your ideas of who you think run for governor
here in Colorado. And let's stick to the Republican side.
I don't care about the Democrat side, but if there
is anyone on the Republican side that could win. Who
(31:09):
would it be? You can text in at five seven
seven three nine, or you can call in at three
o three seven one three eight two five five. I
happen to think Dan Kaplis would make a great candidate,
but I think he probably thinks I have a hit
injury like I described him as having when he gave
me opportunity to take this show over. But I think
Dan would be a great candidate for a statewide race,
whether that was governor Senate, whatever that may be. I mean,
(31:32):
he's got quite a broad background and a definite name
recognition and good listenership.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So why not.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
You know, you can get with me if you want
and help try to push Dan into the political arena.
But I'm sure he's going to tell me to kiss off.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
On your behalf and also suffering from a head injury myself.
Who would you rather want litigating the case in literal
terms right for our party, for our point of view,
oh than Dan Caplis. I mean, there is no stronger
advocate for the truth and for what we stand for
here on this platform, on this show.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
I think Dan does a great job of you know,
if he's if he doesn't agree with someone on a
particular topic, he defends his stance and he lets you
have your piece, and you know, we agree to disagree
and move on. And there's plenty of things that Dan
and I probably don't see eye to eye on, but
I can respect him because I know where he stands,
and I think that's important in a candidate. But you know,
I'd love to hear what other people think. If it's
(32:30):
Dan Caplis or if it's whomever. You know, we got
to find that person to hold up and say this
is this is our guy to get behind. You know,
I've heard all kinds of names coming out of the woodworks,
and you know, Jason Michael may be the guy too.
I think time will tell is as competition, you know,
makes men stronger, makes women stronger.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
And we're going yes, I did broach this subject with
one mister Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Oh boy, what's the answer, And.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
He basically said, wow, little girl, you have a very
interesting imagination.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Well you know that's coming from you, though, Kelly. I
mean he's not wrong, am I right?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I about her imagination? Well, all of those things, all
of those things that's true.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
So here on the text, while you know, we started
out with tampon Tim's comments, and somebody says, hey, I
find Tim Wall's extremely creepy. He really gives me super
icky vibes. There's nothing, there's nothing, there's something wrong with
him that I think. That's pretty on point. And then
a carryover from your show, it says Dan Steve Ryan,
a little nauseating to hear Richard Holdtorf on Ryan's show
(33:39):
channeling his inner h W. Bush with kinder gentler pablum.
It looks weak, it sounds weak. And if Trump has
shown anything, it's that smash mouth Conservatism wins and limp
wristed Republicanism is a loser. But some folks will never learn,
Like I've never thought of Richard Holdtorf as being a
quiet man. No, no, you know that's this one tech opinion.
(34:01):
There's a lot of things that Richard Holdtorf and I
don't agree on, but I if that was the kinder
gentler Richard Holdtorf that you had on, I guess I missed.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
It well, maybe by his standard, but I think the
Texter's right on one point, and that is, you know,
taking the action to the opponent the way that Jamie
Vance has learned to do, I think under the tutelage
of Donald Trump and then also governor around De Santa
same thing. I mean, he went from a razor thin
winning margin in his first gubernatorial race to a twenty
point margin in his run for reelections. So I think
(34:33):
there's something to be learned from that as well.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, you know, I think this it's good to have
a strong opinion. I think it's good to take on
the you know, take on the naysayers. And you know,
Richard Holdtorf is never back down from too many fights.
I don't know what the pathway is to becoming the
GOP chairman, and I think he's trying to figure that out.
So time will tell. We go down to the state
the state reorganization meeting on the twenty ninth, and it
(34:55):
should be a bloodbath. So we're going to see how
that goes. In the next hour, we're gonna have several
more guests on. We'll start off with Senator Byron Pelton
in the next hour. Right now, you're listening to The
Dan Kapla Show with Steve Raims as your guest host
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Sang on my phone.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I don't some of you know this on the iPhone.
They've got that little stock app. I added Tesla Tude
to give me a little boost during the day two
twenty five and dropping.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And if you own one.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
If you own one, we're not blaming you. You can
you can take dental floss and pull the Tesla thing off,
you know, and take out of just telling you and well,
this nation guy could kick most of their ass. I
do that.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I know I can't run them, but I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We're going to fall into that place where we want to. Okay,
we challenge you to a do you know, a wwe
fight here type of thing.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. We're starting off with
something like that because the show can only go up
from here. As you can tell you're not listening to
Dan Capless and Self today, you have Sheriff Steve Riams
filling in for a second day in a row here,
but I just couldn't help but started to show off
with such a low note with tampon Tim getting ready
to take on all the Republicans. You know, I don't
(01:12):
know if he's looking for volunteers to get into the
ring with, but I'm more than happy to be the
first on the agenda. Oh, I can't think of anything
more that I would like to do than to wrestle
or box tampon Tim. Make him use one of those
to fix his bloody nose.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I like it.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Keep going with that. And also, if you remember the
JD Vance Jim from the office side eye look during
the debate and then the wide eyed look by Tim Walls,
that would be the look he had when Sheriff Steve
Reams is coming into the ring.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
I would love to see his wild hands trying to
figure out how he's going to amaze me with everything
he's going to do.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
There's gestures and waves and gallivanting.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
This guy has no tough guy status whatsoever, but he's
trying to flex tough guy status. And look, you know,
you either do or you don't. But he has to
have a family around him that just looks at him.
And says, yeah, you're a dad guy. Don't try to
be the tough guy. Lean into that. Don't try to
get into a boxing room. You're going to get your
butt kicked.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
You're right, But you think about the family around him.
Wasn't his wife Gwen the one that she doesn't blink
and then she was just looking at the audience, going
turn the page, turn the page. It was like a
villain from a Stephen King movie or something.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, you know, when Harris picked him as her vice
presidential running mate, she used the same playbook that Biden
did and said, who could I pick that would be
worse than me? And she found him, I mean, the
most awkward guy ever, and yeah, the most awkward family ever.
I don't know. I kept thinking this guy would go away,
but he keeps trying to be relevant.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
So you look at the diminishing returns of the domino
effect you described their sheriff and Obama of course picked
Biden for the reason you obsoluted. So then Biden picks
Kamala for that reason, and then Kamala picks Walls for
that reason. Where do you go from Walls aoc lower?
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't know. I think at some point you're picking
like a bean bag or a trash bag or something.
You know, sack up a Yeah, it's a mess, but hey,
as long as they're in free fall, let's let him
stay that way. And you know, hopefully the Democrats in
Colorado will take a page out of that playbook and
they'll they'll start pushing to those crazy far leftists to
run for the highest office. And I didn't I don't
(03:16):
think you can. I didn't think you could get much
farther to the left than Jared Polis. But I have
a feeling in this next election cycle we're going to
see some we're going to see some weirdo's come out
of the woodworks. But when we're talking about candidates for governor,
you know, I'm worried about what's going to come from
the left, but I'm pretty I'm pretty hopeful with what's
(03:36):
going to come from the right. And uh here recently
we had a candidate that announced that he was going
to run for governor on the Republican side. He's a
guy that I've known for a little bit of time.
He's the sheriff in Teller County. His name is Jason
mike Sel And we're going to start off the show
with giving Jason Mikexel some time to kind of talk
about why he's getting in the race and what he
(03:59):
can bring to the state of Colorado. Jason, how you doing.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm good, Steve, how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I'm doing great. Hey, thanks for coming on the show.
You know, like I said, I've known you for a
long time. I think a lot of people in southern
Colorado know you. Here. Recently, you've made a splash in
the news taking on the ACLU and pushing some immigration
bills at the state capitol that obviously took a fiery
demise from the Democrats. But why don't you take just
a few minutes to introduce yourself as a candidate and
(04:25):
kind of give your background a little bit so that
we can get to know you and so the listeners
can get to know you.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
My name is Jason Mike sol I'm a third generation
Colorado and I grew up in the car Springs area,
born in car Springs. I'll tell you, I love Colorado.
I grew up here and I remember running the woods
and just being a part of everything that had to
be Colorado at the time, just the freedoms that we
were given. And you know, I've been in law enforcement
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almost thirty years now. I left law enforcement, retired for
a short time, started my own companies. I've had both
big companies that I've had to scale and I've had
small companies now that I wanted to create an environment
within my own county that they have people had places
to go, and so I and my wife actually invested
back into our local community. And really, I love business
and I love all the things to do that, and
(05:15):
I love being a sheriff and protecting a community and
just being part of that community. And really, Colorado is
home and it is my community all across Sport everywhere
I go, and I meet such great sheriffs and people.
So that's one of the reasons I wanted to run,
and really I want and we have a tagline, so
it's I want my Colorado back, and I truly do.
(05:37):
But I want it back for our children, and I
want it back for the freedoms that they should be
able to get. And I want young people to be
able to buy homes and go to state parks and
not have to pay all these crazy fees and be
able to drive down a highway and Colorado do not
have to pay a toll just because so hunting fishing
has been a big part of my life also and
really enjoying our outdoors, and it's really coming under fire lately.
(05:58):
And I just finally woke up with more and said,
you know, it's time to stand up and just do
the right thing. And knowing that I was going to
get blasted by the Democratic side, a very leftist Democrat side,
but I think there's a large part of Colorado that
just really wanted to be a Colorado where you can
be free and enjoy what we have here in the states.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
All those things are I think things that resonate with
a lot of the voters here in Colorado. And to
make things clear, you're going to be running on the
Republican side. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
But just for the listener's sake, where do you see
your pathway to winning? I mean, what's the message that
you have that no one else does? Well?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think leadership, clear leadership. We haven't really had a
clear leader in Colorado in a mayor position, are in
a governor position for a very long time. And here's
the thing I have dealt with large Colorado wildfires. I've
dealt with mine incidences within my own county that have
been the international incidences. You know, you steal so many
(06:59):
things as a and Colorado when it deals with leadership
and making decisions, and I think, you know, that's that's
something you can't teach. It's something that you have to
have that badge of ownership and have earned. And the
other side owning businesses and understanding, you know, how you
treat employees, how you deal with things, and how you
grow companies because Colorado has really got to grow, right,
We've we've got a lot of crisises within Colorado budget crisises.
(07:22):
You know, we're one three one point three billion dollars
shortfall for the year, and in any business they would fire.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
The leadership for doing that.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, So you know, there's so many different things steve
that that really I think is a path to win
in this state. And a lot of it has to
do with our crisis in law enforcement, our mental health,
the fact that we're just taking tax payer money and
throwing it out the door and we're given it to
people that have come here undocumented and illegally into the state.
That that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, we have Jason Michael on the line as candidate
for governor, Republican candidate for governor, just giving us a
little bit of his background and his reasoning for getting
into the governor's race. You hinted to it just a
little bit about, you know, kind of the attack on
law enforcement or the general tone towards law enforcement. You know,
you've you've been a sheriff for what six years? Eight
(08:11):
years somewhere in there.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yeah, what have you seen that?
Speaker 5 (08:14):
What have you seen that the tone change in your
time of not just as sheriff, but in law enforcement
in general. And where do you think that takes the
state of Colorado in general?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Where to start?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I mean, you know, I remember back in the day
law enforcement was able to do what was needed to
protect the citizens. I look at it now and I go,
you have a group like the ACLU that's firing off
letters to sheriffs basically saying they're going to go after
deputies who they believe are doing the wrong things. You've
got more lawsuits that are happening towards law enforcement because
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current legislation is opening the door for that. You have
a state legislature that's reducing laws in Colorado, like we're
dealing with one today. I have people testifying on which
is extreme indifference. So if somebody shoots in your house
as they drive by, or temps skill a law enforcement
officer but they miss, they're going to reduce that from
a Class two felony down to a classify phony so
(09:08):
that those people can be released on parole. Sure, we're
shutting down prisons at a record pace and then we're
releasing them back into parle which then go after communities.
And I hear a lot of issues about well, you know,
the single moms and the mothers are trying to buy
eggs because the cost of groceries. Don't totally get that.
But when they go back to their car and their
car has been broken into, it doesn't help there either.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I think there's a lot of issues I've seen that
far are far beyond the pale. And problem is not
going to get any better. With the candidates on seeing
that are running and the lack of understanding of what
the second order of impacts are when they produce these laws,
it's just going to get worse.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Absolutely. So you hinted a little issue about the ACLU.
We're going to take a break, if you'll stand by
with us through the break. When we come back, I
want to open up with kind of your battles with
the ACL you I've had my own. We can commiserate
over that just a little bit. But we'll go to break,
hang out with us, Jason, and as soon as we
come back, we'll dive right back in. You're listening to
the Dan Caplis Show and you have Sheriff Steve Reims
(10:08):
as guest host.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. You got Sheriff
Steve Reims setting in for day number two. Real pleasure
to be here filling in for Dan. Like I said yesterday,
he's a person I love to listen to. He and
Ryan both big fan and it's just really cool to
be sitting in the seat today. But when we went
to break, we were talking with with Sheriff Jason mike
(10:35):
Sel from Tuller County who's announced that he's a candidate
for governor, And before we went to break, he was
talking a little bit about some of the issues he's
faced as sheriff, and I know one of those is
dealing with the ACLU which I like to call the
Alien Civil Liberties Unit, Unit Union, whatever you want to
call him. They certainly don't represent Americans too much anymore.
(10:55):
And I know Jason had quite a run in with him.
So Jason, let's come back with how did you end
up dealing with the ACLU and what was the issue
that you were fighting to push for your agency?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Well, really it started like two days after I became
a sheriff. I had the first call from the ACA
you basically killing me. Hey, listen, are you going to
get on board like other shriffs? So I started calling
around to find out what had happened. And what they're
wanting me to do is sign a letter saying that
I would not detain, I would not arrest, I would
not assist ice in any operations. And part of the
(11:29):
problem that I ran into was that when we had
the black market marijuana epidemic that was running, and we
had lots of cartels in my county because they just
grow marijuana, and every time I ran into one of
these places, we were dealing with criminal, illegal aliens, And
really that was driving a lot of the FEN and
a lot of sexual traffic and a lot of issues
in the Colorado and into my area as well. So
(11:51):
when we started arresting these folks for doing crimes in Colorado,
we started contacting ICE. Well, when I was doing the
detentions on these people the Aco, you became very unhappy
because they wanted me to basically bond them and release
them and not contact ICE. But when I start talking
to ICE, some of these people were, you know, they're
pretty nasty criminals. They had criminalistories from everywhere.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
That's shocking they don't.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
It was just shocking to me and I went, why
would I want to release this person back in my
community right? And really what they try to do is
they didn't even call around the restaurants in different areas
in my county to find out how I treated, you know,
Hispanic population or other populations. And what they got back
from people is they liked me. And there was this
false narrative push constantly, and we were winning in court
(12:37):
with them. We were running willing in the legislatures because
they weren't able to get their bills across. And even
when we had the appeals court decision that said, hey,
the sheriff can't arrest people, they still upheld that I
could actually still having a two eighty seven G program
with ICE, and that we could still go and work
(12:57):
with ICE, and that prior to that, they'd put out
a letter saying that, you know, I had lost the case,
and they knew I couldn't say anything because we're right
in the middle of it. Yeah, you have the letter,
and it shocked me because they knew I couldn't say anything.
So when it finally ended, I put out a statement, Hey,
you know we're still standing. We won because we did
and I'm still doing the two eighty seven G program.
(13:18):
But what they really did was they pushed this far
false narrative that I was out to get every illegal
immigrant in Colorado and that wasn't the case. And actually,
I've been to so many countries and illegal immigrants or
immigration isn't a bad thing. You want people to come here,
you want them to work, you want them to enjoy
it with just want them to do it the right way.
And what the Aco you really doesn't like is that
(13:41):
we arrested someone not very long ago who was a
criminal illegal alien. The person that makes the arrest is
from another country here on a work visa, working for me,
and he makes the arrest. The person does a two
eighty seven G program, came to America, ended up getting
their work visas, getting their American citizenship. They got to
swear under oath to be an American citizen in my uniform.
(14:04):
And they're the ones I sent the two eighty seven
G program, and they're the ones that did the two
eighty seven G program. So it's hard for them to
argue with me that I hate immigrants, but I just
wanted to do right dealing with this criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
So Jason from that, I think that kind of puts
you in the action of trying to push Senateville forty
seven that we saw die a fiery death this legislative season,
but it wasn't without remark and if you would kind
of form the listeners about what Senate Bill forty seven
was aiming at doing.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Well, some of Bill zero forty seven basically it went
after dealing with criminal illegal aliens only, and we even
talked about the fact that we wouldn't be able to
do stop and ask for papers, We wouldn't be able to,
you know, just arrest people because they're Hispanic, we wouldn't
be able to do round up operations. But what it
did say is that we could work with ICE. It
(14:56):
allowed the State of Colorado actually to speak with ICE
about people that incarcerated in jails and allow us to
jail people for ICE so that that we could house
more criminal illegal aliens in the state of Colorado. And
that bill, which really had a horrible death because it
was party line vote. Again, weird people testifying against it
(15:19):
that really didn't even know what the bill said. Their
whole testimony was, well, you're going to do round up operations. Well,
it says in the bill you can, and on and
on and on and on, and it just it was
amazing to me that we want criminal illegal aliens. And
you know, Steve, I didn't know if you know this,
but Colorado actually had a bill it passed two years
ago that funds legal operations for illegal aliens. Yes, to
(15:42):
fight these things. Yeah, yeah, we have our taxpayer dollars
are doing that.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
We have a taxpayer funded organization or taxpayer fund that
helps defend illegals from the deportation process. It's it's absurd,
it's obscene, but that's what the State of Colorado is.
And in a narrative in this where we're seeing you know,
apartment complexes being taken over, which by the way, actually happened,
despite the mainstream media trying to tell everybody that it didn't.
(16:09):
You come forward with a common sense bill. You you
found some sponsors down at the state House said look,
we're just trying to get rid of the bad ones.
Let us do our job, and they killed it on
a party line vote. I mean, if it died a
very fiery death, but it wasn't without note. I mean,
you know, sometimes message bills are exactly that, and I
think you delivered a loud message.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well I appreciate it, Steve, just I tell you that
was a tough road.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, we're talking with Sheriff Jason Michel from Teller County.
He's a candidate for governor here in the state of
Colorado or Colorado on the Republican side. We got just
a few minutes left, Jason, if you want to take it,
you know, this last minute and a half and kind
of explain to the listener where they can find more
about you, some of your key points for your campaign,
(16:55):
and if they want to support you, how they can
do so the best.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I have a campaign platform. It's on It's a web page.
You can go to Mike School. It's m I K, E,
S E L L or gov the number four gov
dot com. All my platforms are there. It has all
the information that you need. You can make donations there.
You can actually ask to help us on that site.
So if you would just go to it, you can
(17:22):
see everything you have and I can answer any questions
you may have for it.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Well, that's that's a good start. I got one question.
Are the roads in Tyler County and Colorado Springs as
bad down there as they are everywhere else in the state.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I'd say our roads are atrocious. It's it's a travesy.
I come from other states. I'll drive in the state
of Colorado when I'm when I'm out visiting family and friends,
and you know, when you cross into Colorado there's no missing.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I just have to say, if any if any one
pillar of your campaign can be fixing the roads, please
add that in. Jason, we really appreciate you coming on
the show. You know, it's great having a candidate jump in.
I'm sure there'll be some more on the radio show
before too long. But again thanks to Jason Michel from
Teller County for getting on with the Dan Kapla show.
You have Steve Raims his guest host.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Thank you you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Welcome back to the Dan Caples Show. You're here with
Steve Raims, Weld County Sheriff as the guest host today.
And before we get to the next guest, I just
want to throw out a couple of numbers here. If
you want to call into the show, it's three oh
three seven one three eight two five five or the
text line start your text with Dan at five seven,
seven thirty nine. Our next guest is Ty Winter. And
if you were paying attention to the song that Ryan played,
(18:49):
that should have been a prelude. But Ty Winter is
the state rep from HD forty seven. He's also the
assistant Minority leader. But I knew him first as the
Las Animus County GOP chair, and quite honestly, he represented
what I believe is the polar opposite of a guy
like Tampon Tim who we led to show with. Ty
(19:11):
Winter is a true rock star. He's a solid guy
for the Republicans and I'm glad to have him on
the line.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Ty, how you doing good, Sheriff?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
It great to be with you. And thank you for
all the compliments, and right back at you, sir, I
appreciate what you do for Wild County in the state
of Colorado, and it's an honor to be on with
you today.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Well, we have a chance to get to know each
other during the Red Flag saga, and you invited me
down to speak to your GOP group down there, and
I was blown away with the amount of turnout that
you produced down there in the southern part of Colorado.
You had a following, and I'm sure you're continuing to
foster that today with your work down at the State House.
But I won't eat up too much time sending praises
(19:51):
your way. You've earned all those. As the assistant Minority leader,
you've kind of got a little bigger burden to carry
down there, and I know you're pushing a bill that
I think is good for all of Colorado. That's House
Bill twenty. Tell us about that.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Bill, Yes, sir, it's really exciting. I mean, it's important
in some ways. It doesn't do a whole lot in
some ways, but I think it's huge first and foremost,
as we see our oil and gas industry being killed
here at the state Capitol. That's unfortunate. But at the
end of the day, we know the wind and solar
aren't going to be the only things that power this state.
(20:28):
We need base load power and we just aren't going
to get it with intermittent power. So myself and Representative
Eldez out of Denver, we ran House Bill ten forty.
And what that does is that first and foremost, it
brings federal language and state language together. It takes nuclear
energy out of green energy and puts it in clean
That's the first part of the bill. But the most
important part of the bill is it it's going to
(20:49):
replace that severage tax that we've lost through oil and gas.
And you know, these small modular reactors and these microreactors,
the technology is unbelievable. Uses left land a lot less water,
and I think that you know, unfortunately the end date
that the Colorado Democrats have set on oil and gaps
in this state. This is our only next true step
(21:09):
to being able to power Colorado.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And where do you see that bill going? Is it
gonna Is it going to get the support it needs
or are we gonna Are we gonna see nuclear energy
welcomed into the state of Colorado.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
It's on the governor's desks, or made it out of
the House, that made it out on the Senate. We're
just waiting for it to be signed.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Do you mean a bill with bipartisan support made it
to the governor's desk? Say it's not.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
So it did start, and it's exciting. You know, we
had myself and Ret Valdez here in the House, and
we had Senator Robertson Senator Listing over in the Senate,
and it's an exciting new day for Colorado. And you know,
basically what this is is a conversation. This is the
cornerstone to foundation. This opens up talks and then hopefully
they still get people excited and investors excited to come
(21:51):
in and you know, have these conversations and see what
communities actually want these in their community and hopefully we
get some build outs started.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Well, I got to tell you it's good to have
just a little bit of positive news. Even if this
isn't you know, seeing nuclear energy start tomorrow, at least
it's a pathway to a future here in Colorado. We
know energy demands are going to continue to go up,
and at least you're creating that pathway. So we went
from talking to the good and you know, we got
to shift gears a little bit. Let's talk about the bad,
which I'm sure there's a lot of it down there.
(22:19):
What's the bill that you've seen just be the worst mess?
I'm guessing Senate Bill three, but maybe you've got a different.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
One, you know, sir, when it comes to you know,
constitutional rights, by far, Senate Bill three is the biggest
mess that we face. I mean, we could be on
here for the next forty eight hours to try to
pick out every bad bill that rolls through the Yeah. No, kid,
to be honest with you, there's a there's a ton
of bad legislation.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
You know.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Actually, I don't know if you saw what happened in Pueblo.
Chief Noler just did a press conference that three officers
were shot in Pueblo last night. Yeah, and you know
somebody that had, you know, been a career criminal basically.
So we see a lot of anti law enforcement, soft
on crime legislation. You and I both know that, you know,
we believe if you commit a crime, you should be
punished for it. I know you strike the same vein
(23:05):
so all the anti law enforcements, soft on crime legislation
is bad. But I would have to say Senate Bill
three is probably the most egregious attack on our amendments
in this building by far since I've been here.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
What's the tone been like as that bill has traveled
through the House and the Senate. Yeah, I know, you
said on at least one of the committees that heard
that bill, what was the testimony like, what was the
back and forth like between the Republicans and Democrats?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
You know, basically it's what you could expect, sir. You know,
you have Republicans fighting for constitutional rights, fighting for life,
basically the ability to protect protect life, liberty, and property.
We see the crime issues and we understand how you
know important the Second Amendment is. You know, like Colonel
Colt said, you know, God made man that Colonel Colt
made them all equal, and that's huge. I think that's
(23:54):
really big. So, you know, it was a big fight
in the Senate, and my roommate, Senator Palton, him and
Byron Pealton fought it really hard. The Senate committee and
of course the Senate Republicans gave it a pretty good
beating on the floor. It's been amended a million times, right,
you real.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Completely changed a couple of times really.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, it's to make it palatable for the governor. That's
the talk in the building. You know. I think that
the far left Dems would have pushed it through the
way it originally was, but I think they knew the
only way that the governor would think about even signing
it is with these amendments. That way, you know, he could,
you know, make it palatable for himself. So right now
we heard it in committee, then we have it in finance.
(24:31):
That was on Friday, and the rumor is is that
I'm pretty sure it's scheduled for Friday, this Friday on
the House floor. You know, we'll gabble in and you
know we're going to go to work on this thing.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Well, it's got to have a huge appropriation tag to it,
our fiscal note, I would think. And with the state
legislature being so up down, upside down for the state budget,
do you think there's any chance that that kills the
bill or are we just going to have to see
if this goes to the governor's desk and we can
talk him out of signing it.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I think it's going to make the governor's death or
he housed it in CPW, you know, he's put a
ton of responsibility back on the sheriffs testified. I said,
it was unenforceable. Now you guys are going to be
hit with an you know, unfunded mandate, which then you're
going to have to hit your folks with is another
unfunded mandate. But some of the huge things that you know,
we listen to a lot of people testify, and I learned,
(25:21):
you know, we usually hear you know, Second Amendment arguments, constitutional,
you know, come and take it, but the arguments were
so much different this time, Sheriff. I mean, we had
folks talk about how gun rights or civil rights, how
are people with learning disabilities, how's this going to limit
their assets of firearms? The financial barriers. This is almost
creating a class system where the rich will have guns
(25:42):
and the poor won't. It's just disgusting. I mean, we've
talked about we talked about source causes, whether it be
mental health or lack of morality and family values. Like
I said, we heard from the sheriffs who were totally
ignored and then can CEPW do the job in a
timely fashion? And I think the one thing that we've
learned about this, sir, is that it's death by a
thousand cuts. They want to skirt up against the Second
(26:03):
Amendment because they.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Know effectually, through serious.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Legislation, they can't kill it, so they just keep making
They put putting paywalls and roadblocks and death by a
thousand cuts. So you know, it's just hard to see
this play out with anti gun bill after anti gun bill.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
It seems like every session that you know, they stack
one on top of the other. You already have a
three day waiting period, you already have a background check
when you go to buy a gun. Now you're going
to have a class and a certificate, another background check,
I mean your card that you have to carry so
you can buy a gun. I mean, it just it
gets to the point where it's it's utter ridiculousness. And
all the while, do criminals follow any of that?
Speaker 7 (26:41):
No, sir, no, sir, such a such a yeah, no, no, no,
they don't care about it. This was just disarm law
biting citizens. And what makes it even more disgusted than
anything because they're taking a god given, unalienable right and
creating and making it a government privilege. And that should
scare every American because we know when we lose the
(27:03):
second the first isn't far behind.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Absolutely, Ty, you can have said it better. Hey, we
really appreciate the work that you're doing down there. You've
been a fighter, you've been a yeoman down at the
state Capitol. I hope you stay down there for as
long as they'll have you. Maybe there's a Senate run
in your future. Like I said, I think you are
truly one of those guys that represents the future of
this party. You are a hard working dude, and I've
seen it from before you made it to the State House.
(27:26):
I mean, you set your county up to foster success
amongst the Republican Party and I couldn't be prouder to
know you.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Same here, Shirp. I appreciate you, my Brotherren. You know,
most importantly, let's fix this state in God bless America.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Thanks for being with us, Ty, and we're going to
cut to break. You're listening to The Dan Kaplas Show
with Steve Reims as guest host.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
If you're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show, have Steve Reams,
the Well County Sheriff filling in for day number two
for Dan and you know We've had some guests on already.
We had Jason Mike sel Teller kind of sheriff. He
was the he's running for a Republican governor seat. And
Ty Winter, the HD forty seven rep and assistant minority leader,
(28:15):
kind of talking about you know, what's going on down
to the State House and if there are any wins,
you know, what do they look like? And we know
they're thin, but at least we got a few guys
fighting for us. So yesterday after the show, I got
a couple of text messages and messages through Facebook, and
one that I couldn't ignore was is there anything good
that came from the police reform movement in twenty nineteen,
(28:37):
twenty twenty twenty twenty one. Was there any one good
thing that surfaced? And I had to scratch my brain
a little bit. Send it Bill two seventeen, House Built
twelve twelve fifty, or the two bills that come to
mind most. But there is one positive that I think
has come out of that legislation, and it's a little
thing called the post Portal. And for those of you
that are interested in knowing, you know, good cops versus
(29:00):
bad cops, which is very important to me, especially if
we're potentially hiring a new person. Anybody in Colorado can
can do a Google search to the Colorado Post Portal
and you do a little do a little deep dive,
and it doesn't take much, but you can get to
a page that will show you you can find I
think it's tad to here, find action on individual officers,
(29:23):
and you can just start scrolling through officers that have
been placed on the on the i'll say bad cop list,
and it goes by most recent to you know, most
I guess most historical, and I couldn't help. But when
I logged in today and I was kind of looking
at the looking at the page, I noticed there were
two Department of Corrections folks that have been put on
(29:45):
that screen. And it's the first time I've seen anyone
from DC in there for a very long time. And
it looks like they're both put on there for forgery,
which I'm assuming that has something to do with training records.
But I say that because initially this post Portal and
Senate Bill two seventeen wasn't going to apply to anything
other than county officers and local officers, and we actually
(30:07):
the rest of us kind of fought and said, now
this needs to be equally applied. You know, you can
have bad cops anywhere, and to see those two doc
officers on there was a little shocking. I think one
of them, if memory serves me right, was connected to
Evan Ebel as the parole officer when the former Director
of Prisons, Tom Clements was killed by that individual. So
(30:28):
a lot of ties there. I hope that someone does
a deeper dive into why those two people appeared on
the post portal. As a law enforcement officer, I want
to make sure we get rid of bad cops, and
hopefully someone will dig into those names. I obviously don't
have the time to do that today, but as we're
going through kind of what the tone of the day is,
(30:49):
you know, we had a governor's candidate on here. I'm
sure a lot of you have an opinion about who
could run for governor in the state of Colorado. And
when I happen to have an opinion, I'd love to
hear your ideas of who you think run for governor
here in Colorado. And let's stick to the Republican side.
I don't care about the Democrat side, but if there
is anyone on the Republican side that could win. Who
(31:09):
would it be? You can text in at five seven
seven three nine, or you can call in at three
o three seven one three eight two five five. I
happen to think Dan Kaplis would make a great candidate,
but I think he probably thinks I have a hit
injury like I described him as having when he gave
me opportunity to take this show over. But I think
Dan would be a great candidate for a statewide race,
whether that was governor Senate, whatever that may be. I mean,
(31:32):
he's got quite a broad background and a definite name
recognition and good listenership.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So why not.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
You know, you can get with me if you want
and help try to push Dan into the political arena.
But I'm sure he's going to tell me to kiss off.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
On your behalf and also suffering from a head injury myself.
Who would you rather want litigating the case in literal
terms right for our party, for our point of view,
oh than Dan Caplis. I mean, there is no stronger
advocate for the truth and for what we stand for
here on this platform, on this show.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
I think Dan does a great job of you know,
if he's if he doesn't agree with someone on a
particular topic, he defends his stance and he lets you
have your piece, and you know, we agree to disagree
and move on. And there's plenty of things that Dan
and I probably don't see eye to eye on, but
I can respect him because I know where he stands,
and I think that's important in a candidate. But you know,
I'd love to hear what other people think. If it's
(32:30):
Dan Caplis or if it's whomever. You know, we got
to find that person to hold up and say this
is this is our guy to get behind. You know,
I've heard all kinds of names coming out of the woodworks,
and you know, Jason Michael may be the guy too.
I think time will tell is as competition, you know,
makes men stronger, makes women stronger.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
And we're going yes, I did broach this subject with
one mister Dan Caplis.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Oh boy, what's the answer, And.
Speaker 8 (32:57):
He basically said, wow, little girl, you have a very
interesting imagination.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Well you know that's coming from you, though, Kelly. I
mean he's not wrong, am I right?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I about her imagination? Well, all of those things, all
of those things that's true.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
So here on the text, while you know, we started
out with tampon Tim's comments, and somebody says, hey, I
find Tim Wall's extremely creepy. He really gives me super
icky vibes. There's nothing, there's nothing, there's something wrong with
him that I think. That's pretty on point. And then
a carryover from your show, it says Dan Steve Ryan,
a little nauseating to hear Richard Holdtorf on Ryan's show
(33:39):
channeling his inner h W. Bush with kinder gentler pablum.
It looks weak, it sounds weak. And if Trump has
shown anything, it's that smash mouth Conservatism wins and limp
wristed Republicanism is a loser. But some folks will never learn,
Like I've never thought of Richard Holdtorf as being a
quiet man. No, no, you know that's this one tech opinion.
(34:01):
There's a lot of things that Richard Holdtorf and I
don't agree on, but I if that was the kinder
gentler Richard Holdtorf that you had on, I guess I missed.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
It well, maybe by his standard, but I think the
Texter's right on one point, and that is, you know,
taking the action to the opponent the way that Jamie
Vance has learned to do, I think under the tutelage
of Donald Trump and then also governor around De Santa
same thing. I mean, he went from a razor thin
winning margin in his first gubernatorial race to a twenty
point margin in his run for reelections. So I think
(34:33):
there's something to be learned from that as well.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, you know, I think this it's good to have
a strong opinion. I think it's good to take on
the you know, take on the naysayers. And you know,
Richard Holdtorf is never back down from too many fights.
I don't know what the pathway is to becoming the
GOP chairman, and I think he's trying to figure that out.
So time will tell. We go down to the state
the state reorganization meeting on the twenty ninth, and it
(34:55):
should be a bloodbath. So we're going to see how
that goes. In the next hour, we're gonna have several
more guests on. We'll start off with Senator Byron Pelton
in the next hour. Right now, you're listening to The
Dan Kapla Show with Steve Raims as your guest host
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