Some Dave Williams loyalists come out of the woodwork to defend the embattled chair of the Colorado GOP, while Jon Caldara continues to drive home the point that his fate has been sealed. He's done.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Mister Caplis is not here. I think he's going to
the CU game. That'll be okay. You know, Dan and
I are alike in a lot of ways, and we're
really opposite in a lot of ways. We both think
his wife is spectacular. True, we have the same values
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on a lot of governmental issues. True, we both love
our kids. True. But I think he actually has pride
from graduating from CEU.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh big time.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's just nutbags. I mean, that's that makes no sense.
See you is a factory of socialism. It pumps out
out people who are socialists. It is tax money going
to socialism. I understand people have a great time in college,
and and by the way, people's great time in college
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didn't really happen. I think for a lot of people,
college is an angst ridden, anxiety filled weird thing. But
in the rearview mirror it gets very very rosy. So no,
no pride, no SeeU pride here. And yet John, you
still live in Boulder, don't you? Yes? How, yes, I do.
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How people's Republic of Boulder, how partly because it really
pisses people off. I mean I Bolder, and I mean
this sincerely. Bolder is the most intolerant, hateful town in
the state.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's full of elitists who claim they support diversity intolerance.
But really that's only if you're a liberal or progressive,
then they can tolerate you. If your gun owner, no,
they hate you. If you're a conservative, no, they hate you.
But I've been here for so long that it was
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my town before it was their town.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So they can't take that from you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well they can. They have. I'm sure I'm a criminal
by their gun laws and everything else. But no, And
if you want to know the truth, back in college,
I was in my house, I sitting out on the
stoop one day and a beautiful, gorgeous topless woman walks by,
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cuts across my lawn and to go down the road,
and I look at her, smile and wave. She looks
at me and smiles and waves. And for the last
forty years I have been waiting on my stoop for
that woman to come back, and until she does, I'm
staying in Boulder. A guy can dream. That guy can
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dream dream three or three seven, one, three, eight, two
five five The Land of the Last Hours. Talking to Brad,
who didn't really have time to fairly answer the question.
He wants to make the case that the current GOP
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chair is still in power because of all these parliamentary reasons,
which will let a judge decide, because a judge will
end up deciding this. But the way he was doing
it sounded very much like the way election deniers say
that Trump didn't win the election. I asked him this question,
did Trump lose the election or win the election? So
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I thought I'd leave him on just for enough to
answer that question, Brad, did Trump win?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Did Trump win the election?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The answer is I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
The answer is there was four hundred and fifty thousand
new vot placed on our voter roles in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All right, now you're gonna give all the stop stop
stop stop stop stop stop, no goodbye. Let me put
you on hold because you don't want to have a conversation.
You just want to put out your conspiracy theories about
Dave Williams okay, so you, But I just want to
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make it clear. If I let you ramble, you were
my turn. If I were to let you ramble, you
would be rambling on about all the inconsistencies in the election,
giving giving evidence that Trump could very easily have won.
Would I be right?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I don't know, all right, We don't know how those
votes would have turned.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We have no idea, but we have questions. My god,
all right, and so Dave Williams. At the end of
all this legal maneuvering, and when the courts and the
National Party have to decide, do you think Dave Williams
will remain in.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Power again, that's up to the Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, oh my god, have a nice day. When somebody
has a strength to give me some straight answers, please
give me a call three h three seven one three
eight two five five seven to one three talk. I'm
not trying to do any sort of talk show voodoo
on somebody. I just want some straight answers. That's it.
The straight answer is that a huge majority of the
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Central Committee have expressed they want Dave Williams out. Dave
Williams is using every last legal maneuver to stay in power.
That's the truth. That is the only truth there is.
Eighty percent of them voted to yank him. Well, a
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lot of those were proxies. The majority of those were proxies. Yeah,
and when you give your a proxy to somebody, it
has the full force and weight of your vote. Let's
go to the thrones. Talk to Susie. Hey, Susie, you're
with John Calderow. Welcome, Susan.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I'm sorry, Susan, Susan, Okay, sorry, Yes, I am a Republican,
but I am not a member of the SEC. And
we all know that the meeting last Saturday was illegitimate
and that the rn C has weighed in on this,
and they did call it illegitimate. So they have not
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been removed.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And that is.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Absolutely opposite of what I heard. Because the spokesman of.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
You may afford you the letter from the rn C, please,
I can avoided you. I'll be the documentation here and
I can also show you that they were told the
question tolf of the Cholera Republican Party. So let me
do that, all right, Well, no, you're es for me.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Let me ask you the question, do you believe a
majority of the Central Committee has expressed their viewpoint that
they want Dave Williams gone.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
No, the SEC meeting is not until the thirty first,
and we know the bulk of the SEC is with
Dave Williams.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
How can that be when because meeting with the fringe
minority of seventy seven people.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
With enough vote so the proxies do not even count.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What will it take for you to be convinced that
Dave Williams is ousted?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, I will be there at the SEC on Saturday.
I invite you to come.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I didn't ask you that. No, I don't care. I
don't care about the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I know you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You've I've had it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I've had it with a dysfunction. I've had it with
the inefficiencies.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I've had it since minority that's been doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Wait, did a fringe minority shop? Did a fringe minority
call for the burning of gay pride flags? Did a
fringe minority? Did a fringe minority? Did a fringe minority
endorse eighteen candidates in the primary for the first time
in Colorado history, fourteen of which lost. Was that a
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fringe minority.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Should calling money from our candidates?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Did a fringe minority call for the banning and burning
of flags.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Gays against Groomers did that?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No? I know Gays against Groomers and they never called
to burning flags.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Talk to them again about that.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I know the head of Gays against Groomers and he did.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Not call for burn Again about that?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I asked you, did a fringe minority or did Dave
Williams call for the burning of gay pride flags?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Extringe minority does not speak the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Did Dave I'm Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
It takes three sixths.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Did Dave Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
People?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's a simple yes or no question here, it's a
simple question.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
You're not paying attention to the bit.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But I'm not gonna I'm not going to pay attention
to anything till you answer my little question. You answer
my question, I'll answer your question. Did Dave Williams call
for the burning of Gabe? He didn't, And.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
He is against pedophilia and transcendering of our children.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So when I read his email calling for the burning
of gay pride flags, that was not him. Did somebody
did somebody hijack his email?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
He put somebody else's video on there, and you had
to read the entire thing. You guys do people like
you don't read the entire thing. You think you see
part of it, and then you may the judgment call.
But the bottom line here is you're saying that Dave
has been replaced and he has not. The State Central
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Committee meeting is this Saturday. Then it will come up
and we'll discuss it at that time.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
And so the special meeting that was called had any
authority over the State Central Committee or the State Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I got to tell you, this is enjoyable, this desision.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
For three fifths of the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What's so enjoyable about this dysfunction? Again, it is two
warring poor parties fighting over a postage stamp. This is
this is how much land you're you're you're doing so
you're not helping Republicans win, you're bashing other Republicans. You're
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you're not You're not helping people who have lost or
won their primaries because they didn't like Dave Williams and
Dave Williams decided to endorse the other candidate. This is
all just dysfunction, complete dysfunction, And I gotta tell you
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it's comical. It is comical three h three seven one
three eight two five five seven one three talk the
procedure said this, and this all right, great, you're gonna
go to court. Court's gonna figure it out. The National
Party is going to weigh in, and by the time
it's solved, the election will be over and Republicans will
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take it on the chin again because Republicans don't like
dealing with reality, at least in this state. Back after this,
I'm John Calberian for Capitalis Keep it here six point
thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I've started to realize just how out of touch many
hardcore Republicans are in Colorado. In politics, you need to
accept this reality. In order to win. You need to
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convince people who aren't going to vote for you, your candidate,
or your cause to vote for you or your candidate
or your cause, which means when you talk to them,
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you can't think they think the same way you do.
This is why, over the last decade Colorado has become
the minority of Republicans have become the minority party in Colorado.
It used to be the majority. No, Republicans are now
the minority, and they they have a hard time accepting
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political reality. Reality is that in those swing districts that
Republicans need to win to get back seats in the
state legislature, if you have an R behind your name,
you might as well have a swastika. That's not my opinion.
That's the opinion of swing voters who are scared of
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Trump and hate him and want to protect abortion rights.
And those are the people you need to tempt over
to vote for Republicans. Dave Williams does not do that,
or put it more simply, politics is the art of addition,
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and Dave Williams and his sycophants believe that politics is
the art of subtraction. The more you kick people out
for not being purest enough, the more we're going to
be able to win in the fall. That's just plain delusional.
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In for in for the big Man, I'm John Kel
there are three h three seven to one, three eight,
two five five. Have several callers now talk about how
how procedurally Dave is still the still the still the guy. Well,
I guess the RNC and in the courts will decide.
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But to say that that the extremists are not the
ones in charge of the party that Dave Williams isn't
the extremist is I think comical? And the guy calls
for burning gay Pride flags and yes, that's what his
email said. I read it. When he decides to endorse
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candidates into a primary, that's extreme. You see, the party
doesn't have many functions anymore now that we have campaign
finance limits. The party's job is just two things. One
to run fair primaries to find out who our candidate
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is going to be in the fall, and then two
to funnel money to them. They cash checks, that's it.
They cash checks, often from outside groups like the RNC
or the Republican Governors Association or other groups outside of
the state to target different races. That's a job. The
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job is to elect Republicans. When you think about it,
you gotta wonder, is there some George Soros character paying
off Dave Williams and crew. You've just got a wonder
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And it's it's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And by the way, even if it was somewhat functional,
even if Dave was not the chair right now, even
if he accepted the obvious will of the Central Committee
and went away, Republicans are still likely to take it
on the chinn this fall. Trump is on the ballot,
Abortion will be on the ballot, and that's going to
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bring a lot of folks out.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
One thing that I was thinking too, John, is along
the exact lines I've been watching this. I talked to
you during the break. You know, I'm pretty plugged into
Republican politics like you are. You make appearances, I talk
to people. If you were trying to lose, like the
Washington Generals to the Harlem globetrotters, if you were trying
to sabotage the Colorado Republican Party, what would you be
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doing differently than Dave Williams right now and up till now.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I would have stopped spending other people's money from the
party on my personal election, which is a huge violation
and just completely unethical, And I would I would learn
to accept the realities that saying things like burning gay
pride flags is a good thing for for Republicans.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
But see, you're telling me what you would do if
you want to trying to win. I'm asking you, if
you're trying to lose, SUBE, if you're going to sabotage
a sabage, sabotage, burn it down, what would you function?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Dysfunction in a party guarantees your opponent's win. Matter of fact,
I remembered eighth grade at Saint Mary's Missus Rinaldo, making
it clear. When a party splits, the other party wins.
And it's happened throughout history, and it's happening here. It's
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it's good stuff. Hey, give me a good analogy about
what's going on in the Colorado Republican Party. I need
to paint this picture better. Three h three seven to one,
three eight two five five seven to one three talk
and for Dan, I'm John Caldrek.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Keep it here six thirty k How you're listening to
the Dan Kaplis Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Play man, I can guess the artists on this one. Yeah,
not Donnie and Marie, not quite Tony Orlando. Oh that's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
My dad saw him live twice.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You're kidding.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh no, I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh man. I finally saw Clapton last year for the
very first time. I'm really glad I did. That was
kind of a yeah, nostalgic, right. I wish I was
able to see the Who when Keith Moon was alive,
but to see Hendrix would have been something to something
to take for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And my dad saw Clapton when he was with Cream
in his prime, late sixties. My dad was everywhere with that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yep, Oh how cool. So my old man, who grew
up in the Bronx in the time of some big bands,
get this. You go to radio City or someplace and
they would have a constant show of a movie and
then a comedian and then a band. Nice. So think
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of this, he believes. Now he's definitely saw all these people,
but he thinks it's all on the same show as
a kid saw whatever movie, followed by Groucho Marx as
a stand up comedian, followed by Tommy Dorsey Orchestra Wow,
And Tommy Dorsey Orchestra at the time had the lead
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singer of Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's a list upon a list.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean that's you know for a different generation. Oh yeah,
that's Hendrix, you know, that's that is as big as
that is huge totally, So you know, and this I
can say that when I was a kid, I took
my little sister to see the Go Gos.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's awsome. I always had a big crush on Belinda Carlisle,
like who didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right, Yeah, Nah, are you? Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Nat? Remember that there was that that kind of girl
power pop thing that was going on in a while
with the Go Gos and No No, who is the
other one? The other girl band Bengals, Bengals? That was it?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, the Bengals, Bananorama, Kelly's rattling all these off. Joan
Jet was the bad girl that I liked too, Blackheart.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah she is. I'll put up Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders.
Love Hill still giving good show.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Already because she showed a Rush Limba such grace with
him using her song, which her dad was a big
fan of his program, even though she.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Was not a conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Oh really, and she put out the nicest tweet too
when Rush passed. Was very graceful and sweet that she
paid tribute to him, and she took a lot of
heat for it as well from those those who.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Probably don't know. The theme song at the beginning of
every Limbaugh show was was it tearing My City Down?
I'm trying to remember my city is gone, My city
is gone? By the Pretenders, I think she wrote it,
and so you gotta imagine she hated that rush Limbaugh
used it.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
At first, she did, my city was gone past tense.
But then what she the tale she tells is that
she and her dad, her dad was a conservative, and
they didn't agree on a lot, so they didn't talk
a lot, but that that song, when it would come
on and he knew it was her, kind of made
his face light up, and it gave them something to
talk about, and it brought them together. And it's kind
of a nice story of yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Nice story.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I saw her open for the who the pretenders?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
And she said, I want to dedicate this next song
to the most important organization in America, People for the
Ethical Treatment of Animals.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Big into that. Yeah, Yeah, she's big into that and people.
And her reaction to the booze was that's all right,
come around sometime, which I thought was, you know, I
completely disagree with her on it, but it was like,
what a classy way to handle an audience booing at you. Okay,
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you get there. She's a great lady. I like her
a lot. Yeah, yeah, all right, back to what we've
got here. I'm trying to find the right analogy for
what's going on with the Colorado Republican Party. I think
I got one. Here's a writer it says, it feels
pretty awful knowing that as a Conservative, my home is
being destroyed by and my party representatives are basically destroying
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each other. It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets
to save someone that's drowning. I saw them all on
the streets of Aurora until they put them all in
the streets at Aurora, till they can learn how to function.
That's a good one. I shall put it this way.
It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets to save
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someone who's already drowned. I think that will be my
I think how about this one, John, I'm going to
wholeheartedly agree with you with a bias and caveat about
what politics is. The Soviets one political because politically, because
they were able to screw up two whole generations of
people in the country to where they would not listen
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to somebody with a different belief Why do you think
Generation Z is so important? Generation Z still hangs onto
the BS factor of the environment and doesn't understand cycles
all right, if Dave is really supporting the Republican Party,
he would step down because it's the right thing to do.
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He's just causing disruption. He's not a Republican, He's not
even a rhino. John. At least the last two callers
are the reason. The last two callers of the reason
Republicans have lost the state of Colorado. That's some DK
and Broomfield. Thanks DK. How about this one to Dan
Cavilli's you must have some low ratings when John Calferophil
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and he men to that brother strive for right. Yeah.
My goal in life is to ruin his livelihood. If
I can do that job done, to go to the
phones and talk to Jan three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, Jan, welcome here with John.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Hi, Hi to be here. So so my analogy is
actually a very short story, so I'll say it quickly.
I'll try and be succinc So I have a great
great great uncle that was riding on horse down by
the Platte River in Littleton. This was in the early
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nineteen hundreds, and the sheriff came along and said to
him that horse was reported stolen. I'm going to take
you to jail, and he did, and it was a
little one room jail, and then the people of the
town started gossiping, and they said he stole a horse,
and somebody else said, yeah, he blasted some women too,
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and then pretty soon somebody else said he cheated at cards,
and somebody else said, hey, he stood up for some
kids and he had no right to do that. And
pretty soon they worked themselves into a frenzy and they
all went down to the jail and said, marshall, you
need to take care of this. We want to do
something now. And the marshall said, we need to wait
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for the judge because he will be here in about
thirty days. Let's hear this out with the judge. And
the people said, no, we want him now, and so,
without evidence, without hearing what the truth was, they grabbed
him out of the jail and went to lynch him.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And bring that. Bring that to what's going on with
the GOP here in Colorado today.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Okay, So there was one hearing where the Executive Committee
twenty five people met and decided that the petitions were
erroneous and they said that they don't count. And then
what has happened is this group of people have said
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we're going to have our meeting regardless, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Not to get into not to get into the details
because I get I get the point, I get the
procedural points. I can see that people say, procedurally, this
isn't true. So are you Are you comparing Dave Williams
to the innocent person who was accused of horse thievery
and then hung.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yes, because there hasn't been any hearing for him, and
this group of people got together to hang him last
Saturday without the due process that was set up with
the party, and that due process will happen this Saturday.
The other point I want to make in it's hand.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
In a second, the other side, and I know many
people on it give similar procedural reasons why it was
completely legitimate. And I am satisfied that a majority of
people on the Central Committee wished to oust him. So
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I'll ask you this. I'll ask you this. Should the
RNC or a judge come in and say no, that
vote was legitimate, you are out. Here's the court order
for you to give the keys to the office to
this other guy. Will you respect that?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So, first of all, it's not a simple majority to oust.
It should be three fifths of the whole body.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You get my larger point. Let me try this again.
If a judge agrees with the people who met and
ousted him, will you.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Accept that it's there? Yeah. I mean if the RNC
or a judge says that that's true, and I think
they will stand with that, I don't believe Dave won't.
But what I do believe is is this lynching that's
going on that isn't acceptable. And then do you believe.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That do you believe that Dave went to extraordinary circumstances
to make it difficult to have that vote, including having
a meeting under a bridge?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
He had the meeting under a bridge because the other
side went in and signed up for the structure that
was there and put money down so the meeting couldn't
be heard there.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So no, My question was do you believe that Dave
Williams went to a great extent to make it difficult
to have this vote? No?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
He's been fourth right, the party has been notified of
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And that's so we have we have to wait until
the RNC or a judge weighs in and then you
and Dave Williams.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Will it'll be Saturday and Saturday and the other group
has canceled the meeting so by one by one play
it's been canceled by another.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's going on. It's all very entertaining. I got to
run to a break. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Hold on, let me say one more thing.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Minute late for break, Go ahead and get it out.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Go ahead, okay. So Monday night, the Greeley School Board
voted to allow kids to change their names to wear
clothes they want. And teachers are in trouble if they
tell their the parents what's going on. That's what they
voted on Monday night. And so that is grooming, and
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that is what what does that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Have to do with the topic we're talking about, because.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
That is what Dave Williams is speaking up against, is grooming.
He's not speaking there, and.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So have I many and I've done so without saying
we should burn flag about it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
If we don't speak up about it, people aren't going
to be aware.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Got it all right? Thank you for the call. Gotta
go three oh three uh seven one three eight two
five five. By the way, I agree completely with our
last caller. We gotta sat in a light on this
grooming and it's and it is awful and it's ridiculous
calling for people to burn gay pride flags is not
the way to do it. Back after this, keep it
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on six thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You gotta admit this is a good opener. I miss
I miss Rush. Yeah, it's iconic.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You hear it. You know what it means.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know what it means. He never changed it over
all of his years. Nope, I never liked it. He's
showing my age when Johnny Carson would change up his set,
you know, and the curtain that he you have would change.
Oh no, no, the old colored one. I like the
one with all the colors. Yeah, yeah, and uh this
it was just it was just great. And I believe
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the Pretenders continue to play that song in concert without
any hesitation, even though they hated the man or hated
what he stood for. Right, Hey, three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five In for Capitalists, I'm John
Caldera to the phones. We go to justin justin good evening.
You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Hey, John, how you doing here?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
For you?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Well, I want to go back to the day of
fans tracks. I'll change topics a little bit. RTD has
the trains going ten miles an hour because they don't
do regular maintenance into a Roncos game. To me, an
hour and a half from Little Tin to Downtownship be
like a twenty three minute ride. And of change trains.
I want to give you a little feather in your
cap about that. What was it back in the mid nineties,
(31:56):
you and the independence in the institute, we're saying the
fast tracks to be a told of fastertainin.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I led the campaign against what was called Guide the
Ride in nineteen ninety seven. They came back with like
four times more money in two thousand and four and
passed fast tracks against our very clear information that it
was a scam. RTD is not about moving people. RTD
is about moving money once you understand and accept that
(32:22):
everything else makes sense, moving.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Money to the people that are not taxpayers. But yeah,
so I don't know if you know that the news
lately left or three months the trains have been going
ten miles an hour instead of fifty five. Have you
heard about that story?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And think about that. These tracks are relatively new, they
should last thirty years before they need to be replaced.
And it's still not work. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's and
remember we were supposed to get some relief from traffic
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is a relief in traffic, and here no, In fact,
what it's done is guaranteed traffic because it takes the
space that could be used for carpool lanes or bus
lanes or even general purpose lanes away. The real cost
of rail, if you take anything, the real cost of
rail is the right of way that when you take
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away the right of way that could be used for
something that relieves traffic and puts on something that keeps
a government monopoly in place. And that's the only reason
for rail is to keep other competitors off. You realize
what a waste it is. Think of the rail going
down to the tech center on I twenty five. That
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could be a bus lane that could be having transit
fly at full speed doing express routes. Whenever you see
a railroad track for RTD, you look at it and
a car goes by and you go, oh, that's not
don't look at it when a car goes by, look
at it when there's no car on it. It's like
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looking at a lane of highway you're not allowed to
drive on. In fact, no one's driving on it, and
then fifteen minutes later a car goes by and then
it's empty. If there was a lane next to you
that was treated that way, you'd lose your stuff. And
that's what it is. Hey, I'm John Caldera. Check out
the Independence Institute. Go to thinkfreedom dot org. That's thinkfreedom
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Mister Caplis is not here. I think he's going to
the CU game. That'll be okay. You know, Dan and
I are alike in a lot of ways, and we're
really opposite in a lot of ways. We both think
his wife is spectacular. True, we have the same values
(00:36):
on a lot of governmental issues. True, we both love
our kids. True. But I think he actually has pride
from graduating from CEU.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh big time.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's just nutbags. I mean, that's that makes no sense.
See you is a factory of socialism. It pumps out
out people who are socialists. It is tax money going
to socialism. I understand people have a great time in college,
and and by the way, people's great time in college
(01:12):
didn't really happen. I think for a lot of people,
college is an angst ridden, anxiety filled weird thing. But
in the rearview mirror it gets very very rosy. So no,
no pride, no SeeU pride here. And yet John, you
still live in Boulder, don't you? Yes? How, yes, I do.
(01:36):
How people's Republic of Boulder, how partly because it really
pisses people off. I mean I Bolder, and I mean
this sincerely. Bolder is the most intolerant, hateful town in
the state.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's full of elitists who claim they support diversity intolerance.
But really that's only if you're a liberal or progressive,
then they can tolerate you. If your gun owner, no,
they hate you. If you're a conservative, no, they hate you.
But I've been here for so long that it was
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my town before it was their town.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So they can't take that from you.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well they can. They have. I'm sure I'm a criminal
by their gun laws and everything else. But no, And
if you want to know the truth, back in college,
I was in my house, I sitting out on the
stoop one day and a beautiful, gorgeous topless woman walks by,
(02:42):
cuts across my lawn and to go down the road,
and I look at her, smile and wave. She looks
at me and smiles and waves. And for the last
forty years I have been waiting on my stoop for
that woman to come back, and until she does, I'm
staying in Boulder. A guy can dream. That guy can
(03:04):
dream dream three or three seven, one, three, eight, two
five five The Land of the Last Hours. Talking to Brad,
who didn't really have time to fairly answer the question.
He wants to make the case that the current GOP
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chair is still in power because of all these parliamentary reasons,
which will let a judge decide, because a judge will
end up deciding this. But the way he was doing
it sounded very much like the way election deniers say
that Trump didn't win the election. I asked him this question,
did Trump lose the election or win the election? So
(03:47):
I thought I'd leave him on just for enough to
answer that question, Brad, did Trump win?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Did Trump win the election?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
The answer is I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
The answer is there was four hundred and fifty thousand
new vot placed on our voter roles in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
All right, now you're gonna give all the stop stop
stop stop stop stop stop, no goodbye. Let me put
you on hold because you don't want to have a conversation.
You just want to put out your conspiracy theories about
Dave Williams okay, so you, But I just want to
(04:21):
make it clear. If I let you ramble, you were
my turn. If I were to let you ramble, you
would be rambling on about all the inconsistencies in the election,
giving giving evidence that Trump could very easily have won.
Would I be right?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
I don't know, all right, We don't know how those
votes would have turned.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We have no idea, but we have questions. My god,
all right, and so Dave Williams. At the end of
all this legal maneuvering, and when the courts and the
National Party have to decide, do you think Dave Williams
will remain in.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Power again, that's up to the Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, oh my god, have a nice day. When somebody
has a strength to give me some straight answers, please
give me a call three h three seven one three
eight two five five seven to one three talk. I'm
not trying to do any sort of talk show voodoo
on somebody. I just want some straight answers. That's it.
The straight answer is that a huge majority of the
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Central Committee have expressed they want Dave Williams out. Dave
Williams is using every last legal maneuver to stay in power.
That's the truth. That is the only truth there is.
Eighty percent of them voted to yank him. Well, a
(05:50):
lot of those were proxies. The majority of those were proxies. Yeah,
and when you give your a proxy to somebody, it
has the full force and weight of your vote. Let's
go to the thrones. Talk to Susie. Hey, Susie, you're
with John Calderow. Welcome, Susan.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
I'm sorry, Susan, Susan, Okay, sorry, Yes, I am a Republican,
but I am not a member of the SEC. And
we all know that the meeting last Saturday was illegitimate
and that the rn C has weighed in on this,
and they did call it illegitimate. So they have not
(06:26):
been removed.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And that is.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Absolutely opposite of what I heard. Because the spokesman of.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
You may afford you the letter from the rn C, please,
I can avoided you. I'll be the documentation here and
I can also show you that they were told the
question tolf of the Cholera Republican Party. So let me
do that, all right, Well, no, you're es for me.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Let me ask you the question, do you believe a
majority of the Central Committee has expressed their viewpoint that
they want Dave Williams gone.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
No, the SEC meeting is not until the thirty first,
and we know the bulk of the SEC is with
Dave Williams.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
How can that be when because meeting with the fringe
minority of seventy seven people.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
With enough vote so the proxies do not even count.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What will it take for you to be convinced that
Dave Williams is ousted?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, I will be there at the SEC on Saturday.
I invite you to come.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I didn't ask you that. No, I don't care. I
don't care about the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I know you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You've I've had it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I've had it with a dysfunction. I've had it with
the inefficiencies.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I've had it since minority that's been doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Wait, did a fringe minority shop? Did a fringe minority
call for the burning of gay pride flags? Did a
fringe minority? Did a fringe minority? Did a fringe minority
endorse eighteen candidates in the primary for the first time
in Colorado history, fourteen of which lost. Was that a
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fringe minority.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Should calling money from our candidates?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Did a fringe minority call for the banning and burning
of flags.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Gays against Groomers did that?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No? I know Gays against Groomers and they never called
to burning flags.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Talk to them again about that.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I know the head of Gays against Groomers and he did.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Not call for burn Again about that?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I asked you, did a fringe minority or did Dave
Williams call for the burning of gay pride flags?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Extringe minority does not speak the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Did Dave I'm Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
It takes three sixths.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Did Dave Williams call for the burning of flags?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
People?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's a simple yes or no question here, it's a
simple question.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
You're not paying attention to the bit.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But I'm not gonna I'm not going to pay attention
to anything till you answer my little question. You answer
my question, I'll answer your question. Did Dave Williams call
for the burning of Gabe? He didn't, And.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
He is against pedophilia and transcendering of our children.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So when I read his email calling for the burning
of gay pride flags, that was not him. Did somebody
did somebody hijack his email?
Speaker 6 (09:45):
He put somebody else's video on there, and you had
to read the entire thing. You guys do people like
you don't read the entire thing. You think you see
part of it, and then you may the judgment call.
But the bottom line here is you're saying that Dave
has been replaced and he has not. The State Central
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Committee meeting is this Saturday. Then it will come up
and we'll discuss it at that time.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
And so the special meeting that was called had any
authority over the State Central Committee or the State Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I got to tell you, this is enjoyable, this desision.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
For three fifths of the State Central Committee.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What's so enjoyable about this dysfunction? Again, it is two
warring poor parties fighting over a postage stamp. This is
this is how much land you're you're you're doing so
you're not helping Republicans win, you're bashing other Republicans. You're
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you're not You're not helping people who have lost or
won their primaries because they didn't like Dave Williams and
Dave Williams decided to endorse the other candidate. This is
all just dysfunction, complete dysfunction, And I gotta tell you
(11:10):
it's comical. It is comical three h three seven one
three eight two five five seven one three talk the
procedure said this, and this all right, great, you're gonna
go to court. Court's gonna figure it out. The National
Party is going to weigh in, and by the time
it's solved, the election will be over and Republicans will
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take it on the chin again because Republicans don't like
dealing with reality, at least in this state. Back after this,
I'm John Calberian for Capitalis Keep it here six point
thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I've started to realize just how out of touch many
hardcore Republicans are in Colorado. In politics, you need to
accept this reality. In order to win. You need to
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convince people who aren't going to vote for you, your candidate,
or your cause to vote for you or your candidate
or your cause, which means when you talk to them,
(12:34):
you can't think they think the same way you do.
This is why, over the last decade Colorado has become
the minority of Republicans have become the minority party in Colorado.
It used to be the majority. No, Republicans are now
the minority, and they they have a hard time accepting
(12:56):
political reality. Reality is that in those swing districts that
Republicans need to win to get back seats in the
state legislature, if you have an R behind your name,
you might as well have a swastika. That's not my opinion.
That's the opinion of swing voters who are scared of
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Trump and hate him and want to protect abortion rights.
And those are the people you need to tempt over
to vote for Republicans. Dave Williams does not do that,
or put it more simply, politics is the art of addition,
(13:44):
and Dave Williams and his sycophants believe that politics is
the art of subtraction. The more you kick people out
for not being purest enough, the more we're going to
be able to win in the fall. That's just plain delusional.
(14:07):
In for in for the big Man, I'm John Kel
there are three h three seven to one, three eight,
two five five. Have several callers now talk about how
how procedurally Dave is still the still the still the guy. Well,
I guess the RNC and in the courts will decide.
(14:30):
But to say that that the extremists are not the
ones in charge of the party that Dave Williams isn't
the extremist is I think comical? And the guy calls
for burning gay Pride flags and yes, that's what his
email said. I read it. When he decides to endorse
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candidates into a primary, that's extreme. You see, the party
doesn't have many functions anymore now that we have campaign
finance limits. The party's job is just two things. One
to run fair primaries to find out who our candidate
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is going to be in the fall, and then two
to funnel money to them. They cash checks, that's it.
They cash checks, often from outside groups like the RNC
or the Republican Governors Association or other groups outside of
the state to target different races. That's a job. The
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job is to elect Republicans. When you think about it,
you gotta wonder, is there some George Soros character paying
off Dave Williams and crew. You've just got a wonder
(15:59):
And it's it's sad. It's sad.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And by the way, even if it was somewhat functional,
even if Dave was not the chair right now, even
if he accepted the obvious will of the Central Committee
and went away, Republicans are still likely to take it
on the chinn this fall. Trump is on the ballot,
Abortion will be on the ballot, and that's going to
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bring a lot of folks out.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
One thing that I was thinking too, John, is along
the exact lines I've been watching this. I talked to
you during the break. You know, I'm pretty plugged into
Republican politics like you are. You make appearances, I talk
to people. If you were trying to lose, like the
Washington Generals to the Harlem globetrotters, if you were trying
to sabotage the Colorado Republican Party, what would you be
(16:49):
doing differently than Dave Williams right now and up till now.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I would have stopped spending other people's money from the
party on my personal election, which is a huge violation
and just completely unethical, And I would I would learn
to accept the realities that saying things like burning gay
pride flags is a good thing for for Republicans.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
But see, you're telling me what you would do if
you want to trying to win. I'm asking you, if
you're trying to lose, SUBE, if you're going to sabotage
a sabage, sabotage, burn it down, what would you function?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Dysfunction in a party guarantees your opponent's win. Matter of fact,
I remembered eighth grade at Saint Mary's Missus Rinaldo, making
it clear. When a party splits, the other party wins.
And it's happened throughout history, and it's happening here. It's
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it's good stuff. Hey, give me a good analogy about
what's going on in the Colorado Republican Party. I need
to paint this picture better. Three h three seven to one,
three eight two five five seven to one three talk
and for Dan, I'm John Caldrek.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Keep it here six thirty k How you're listening to
the Dan Kaplis Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Play man, I can guess the artists on this one. Yeah,
not Donnie and Marie, not quite Tony Orlando. Oh that's
a good one.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
My dad saw him live twice.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You're kidding.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh no, I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh man. I finally saw Clapton last year for the
very first time. I'm really glad I did. That was
kind of a yeah, nostalgic, right. I wish I was
able to see the Who when Keith Moon was alive,
but to see Hendrix would have been something to something
to take for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And my dad saw Clapton when he was with Cream
in his prime, late sixties. My dad was everywhere with that.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yep, Oh how cool. So my old man, who grew
up in the Bronx in the time of some big bands,
get this. You go to radio City or someplace and
they would have a constant show of a movie and
then a comedian and then a band. Nice. So think
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of this, he believes. Now he's definitely saw all these people,
but he thinks it's all on the same show as
a kid saw whatever movie, followed by Groucho Marx as
a stand up comedian, followed by Tommy Dorsey Orchestra Wow,
And Tommy Dorsey Orchestra at the time had the lead
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singer of Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's a list upon a list.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean that's you know for a different generation. Oh yeah,
that's Hendrix, you know, that's that is as big as
that is huge totally, So you know, and this I
can say that when I was a kid, I took
my little sister to see the Go Gos.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
That's awsome. I always had a big crush on Belinda Carlisle,
like who didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right, Yeah, Nah, are you? Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Nat? Remember that there was that that kind of girl
power pop thing that was going on in a while
with the Go Gos and No No, who is the
other one? The other girl band Bengals, Bengals? That was it?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, the Bengals, Bananorama, Kelly's rattling all these off. Joan
Jet was the bad girl that I liked too, Blackheart.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah she is. I'll put up Chrissy Hine from The Pretenders.
Love Hill still giving good show.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Already because she showed a Rush Limba such grace with
him using her song, which her dad was a big
fan of his program, even though she.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Was not a conservative.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Oh really, and she put out the nicest tweet too
when Rush passed. Was very graceful and sweet that she
paid tribute to him, and she took a lot of
heat for it as well from those those who.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Probably don't know. The theme song at the beginning of
every Limbaugh show was was it tearing My City Down?
I'm trying to remember my city is gone, My city
is gone? By the Pretenders, I think she wrote it,
and so you gotta imagine she hated that rush Limbaugh
used it.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
At first, she did, my city was gone past tense.
But then what she the tale she tells is that
she and her dad, her dad was a conservative, and
they didn't agree on a lot, so they didn't talk
a lot, but that that song, when it would come
on and he knew it was her, kind of made
his face light up, and it gave them something to
talk about, and it brought them together. And it's kind
of a nice story of yesterday.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Nice story.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I saw her open for the who the pretenders?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Wow?
Speaker 8 (21:41):
And she said, I want to dedicate this next song
to the most important organization in America, People for the
Ethical Treatment of Animals.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Big into that. Yeah, Yeah, she's big into that and people.
And her reaction to the booze was that's all right,
come around sometime, which I thought was, you know, I
completely disagree with her on it, but it was like,
what a classy way to handle an audience booing at you. Okay,
(22:12):
you get there. She's a great lady. I like her
a lot. Yeah, yeah, all right, back to what we've
got here. I'm trying to find the right analogy for
what's going on with the Colorado Republican Party. I think
I got one. Here's a writer it says, it feels
pretty awful knowing that as a Conservative, my home is
being destroyed by and my party representatives are basically destroying
(22:35):
each other. It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets
to save someone that's drowning. I saw them all on
the streets of Aurora until they put them all in
the streets at Aurora, till they can learn how to function.
That's a good one. I shall put it this way.
It's like two lifeguards fighting over who gets to save
(22:56):
someone who's already drowned. I think that will be my
I think how about this one, John, I'm going to
wholeheartedly agree with you with a bias and caveat about
what politics is. The Soviets one political because politically, because
they were able to screw up two whole generations of
people in the country to where they would not listen
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to somebody with a different belief Why do you think
Generation Z is so important? Generation Z still hangs onto
the BS factor of the environment and doesn't understand cycles
all right, if Dave is really supporting the Republican Party,
he would step down because it's the right thing to do.
(23:39):
He's just causing disruption. He's not a Republican, He's not
even a rhino. John. At least the last two callers
are the reason. The last two callers of the reason
Republicans have lost the state of Colorado. That's some DK
and Broomfield. Thanks DK. How about this one to Dan
Cavilli's you must have some low ratings when John Calferophil
(24:00):
and he men to that brother strive for right. Yeah.
My goal in life is to ruin his livelihood. If
I can do that job done, to go to the
phones and talk to Jan three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five, Jan, welcome here with John.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Hi, Hi to be here. So so my analogy is
actually a very short story, so I'll say it quickly.
I'll try and be succinc So I have a great
great great uncle that was riding on horse down by
the Platte River in Littleton. This was in the early
(24:37):
nineteen hundreds, and the sheriff came along and said to
him that horse was reported stolen. I'm going to take
you to jail, and he did, and it was a
little one room jail, and then the people of the
town started gossiping, and they said he stole a horse,
and somebody else said, yeah, he blasted some women too,
(24:58):
and then pretty soon somebody else said he cheated at cards,
and somebody else said, hey, he stood up for some
kids and he had no right to do that. And
pretty soon they worked themselves into a frenzy and they
all went down to the jail and said, marshall, you
need to take care of this. We want to do
something now. And the marshall said, we need to wait
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for the judge because he will be here in about
thirty days. Let's hear this out with the judge. And
the people said, no, we want him now, and so,
without evidence, without hearing what the truth was, they grabbed
him out of the jail and went to lynch him.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And bring that. Bring that to what's going on with
the GOP here in Colorado today.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Okay, So there was one hearing where the Executive Committee
twenty five people met and decided that the petitions were
erroneous and they said that they don't count. And then
what has happened is this group of people have said
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we're going to have our meeting regardless, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Not to get into not to get into the details
because I get I get the point, I get the
procedural points. I can see that people say, procedurally, this
isn't true. So are you Are you comparing Dave Williams
to the innocent person who was accused of horse thievery
and then hung.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yes, because there hasn't been any hearing for him, and
this group of people got together to hang him last
Saturday without the due process that was set up with
the party, and that due process will happen this Saturday.
The other point I want to make in it's hand.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
In a second, the other side, and I know many
people on it give similar procedural reasons why it was
completely legitimate. And I am satisfied that a majority of
people on the Central Committee wished to oust him. So
(27:15):
I'll ask you this. I'll ask you this. Should the
RNC or a judge come in and say no, that
vote was legitimate, you are out. Here's the court order
for you to give the keys to the office to
this other guy. Will you respect that?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
So, first of all, it's not a simple majority to oust.
It should be three fifths of the whole body.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You get my larger point. Let me try this again.
If a judge agrees with the people who met and
ousted him, will you.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Accept that it's there? Yeah. I mean if the RNC
or a judge says that that's true, and I think
they will stand with that, I don't believe Dave won't.
But what I do believe is is this lynching that's
going on that isn't acceptable. And then do you believe.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That do you believe that Dave went to extraordinary circumstances
to make it difficult to have that vote, including having
a meeting under a bridge?
Speaker 5 (28:24):
He had the meeting under a bridge because the other
side went in and signed up for the structure that
was there and put money down so the meeting couldn't
be heard there.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
So no, My question was do you believe that Dave
Williams went to a great extent to make it difficult
to have this vote? No?
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
He's been fourth right, the party has been notified of
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And that's so we have we have to wait until
the RNC or a judge weighs in and then you
and Dave Williams.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Will it'll be Saturday and Saturday and the other group
has canceled the meeting so by one by one play
it's been canceled by another.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
That's going on. It's all very entertaining. I got to
run to a break. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Hold on, let me say one more thing.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Minute late for break, Go ahead and get it out.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Go ahead, okay. So Monday night, the Greeley School Board
voted to allow kids to change their names to wear
clothes they want. And teachers are in trouble if they
tell their the parents what's going on. That's what they
voted on Monday night. And so that is grooming, and
(29:48):
that is what what does that.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Have to do with the topic we're talking about, because.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
That is what Dave Williams is speaking up against, is grooming.
He's not speaking there, and.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So have I many and I've done so without saying
we should burn flag about it.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
If we don't speak up about it, people aren't going
to be aware.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Got it all right? Thank you for the call. Gotta
go three oh three uh seven one three eight two
five five. By the way, I agree completely with our
last caller. We gotta sat in a light on this
grooming and it's and it is awful and it's ridiculous
calling for people to burn gay pride flags is not
the way to do it. Back after this, keep it
(30:32):
on six thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You gotta admit this is a good opener. I miss
I miss Rush. Yeah, it's iconic.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You hear it. You know what it means.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know what it means. He never changed it over
all of his years. Nope, I never liked it. He's
showing my age when Johnny Carson would change up his set,
you know, and the curtain that he you have would change.
Oh no, no, the old colored one. I like the
one with all the colors. Yeah, yeah, and uh this
it was just it was just great. And I believe
(31:12):
the Pretenders continue to play that song in concert without
any hesitation, even though they hated the man or hated
what he stood for. Right, Hey, three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five In for Capitalists, I'm John
Caldera to the phones. We go to justin justin good evening.
You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Hey, John, how you doing here?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
For you?
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Well, I want to go back to the day of
fans tracks. I'll change topics a little bit. RTD has
the trains going ten miles an hour because they don't
do regular maintenance into a Roncos game. To me, an
hour and a half from Little Tin to Downtownship be
like a twenty three minute ride. And of change trains.
I want to give you a little feather in your
cap about that. What was it back in the mid nineties,
(31:56):
you and the independence in the institute, we're saying the
fast tracks to be a told of fastertainin.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I led the campaign against what was called Guide the
Ride in nineteen ninety seven. They came back with like
four times more money in two thousand and four and
passed fast tracks against our very clear information that it
was a scam. RTD is not about moving people. RTD
is about moving money once you understand and accept that
(32:22):
everything else makes sense, moving.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Money to the people that are not taxpayers. But yeah,
so I don't know if you know that the news
lately left or three months the trains have been going
ten miles an hour instead of fifty five. Have you
heard about that story?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
And think about that. These tracks are relatively new, they
should last thirty years before they need to be replaced.
And it's still not work. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's and
remember we were supposed to get some relief from traffic
(33:00):
is a relief in traffic, and here no, In fact,
what it's done is guaranteed traffic because it takes the
space that could be used for carpool lanes or bus
lanes or even general purpose lanes away. The real cost
of rail, if you take anything, the real cost of
rail is the right of way that when you take
(33:24):
away the right of way that could be used for
something that relieves traffic and puts on something that keeps
a government monopoly in place. And that's the only reason
for rail is to keep other competitors off. You realize
what a waste it is. Think of the rail going
down to the tech center on I twenty five. That
(33:44):
could be a bus lane that could be having transit
fly at full speed doing express routes. Whenever you see
a railroad track for RTD, you look at it and
a car goes by and you go, oh, that's not
don't look at it when a car goes by, look
at it when there's no car on it. It's like
(34:06):
looking at a lane of highway you're not allowed to
drive on. In fact, no one's driving on it, and
then fifteen minutes later a car goes by and then
it's empty. If there was a lane next to you
that was treated that way, you'd lose your stuff. And
that's what it is. Hey, I'm John Caldera. Check out
the Independence Institute. Go to thinkfreedom dot org. That's thinkfreedom
(34:28):
dot org. Sign up for my newsletter. I'd love to
keep in touch with you, and by all means, keep
it here here on six thirty K how
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