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This is Dan Caples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. America right now and across the party
lines, to a certain extent,is pushing back against this, that this

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clear miscarriage of justice, his clearabuse of process, That this clear corruption
not in the legal prosecutable sense,but in the moral sense of our sacred
what should be sacred justice system,in the wrongful conviction of Donald Trump,
and as predicted, we see thatunfolding in many ways. I want to
update you on a few of thoseeight y five four zero five eight two

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five to five, the number techsDAN five seven seven thirty nine, much
more on the agenda as well,locally and nationally. But two hundred million,
now is what the Trump campaign isclaiming has been raised since this conviction.
Think of that for context, Biden, this juggernaut right fundraising juggernaut raised

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about fifty million in April, sojust since this wrongful conviction on Thursday,
two hundred million raised seventy million insmall donations. Now, the legal definition
of small donations is two hundred dollarsor less than. Obviously, you wish
that two hundred million. You wishthat had been two hundred million one dollar
donations, right, because that showsa level of commitment from more people.

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And you get two hundred million votes, you're probably gonna win, right,
right. So yeah, but thekey is seventy million of that in small
donations. And I think there's realsignificance in the other one hundred and thirty
coming from the billionaire types, inthe depocketed types, because you know you're
going to need some of that too. And one point I've been hammering,
and David Sacks, I believe itwas, who said this, one of

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the billionaires who stepped up after Trumpwas wrongfully convicted, stepped up and said,
wait a second, there's only oneissue now in November, this election
is boiled down to one question,do you want America to become a banana
Republic or not? And that's thepoint I've been making before that because it's
so vital, right, it's sovital. Because now that now that that's

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if not the key issue, akey issue come November five, you open
up this entire other bucket of voterswho were never going to vote for Trump.
They don't even like them, butnow they're going to cast a ballot
for Donald Trump. Not because theywant to vote for him, but electing
him is the only way to stopthe left and stop us from becoming a

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banana republic. So you see thisunfolding in very tangible ways now in terms
of dollars, for example. AndI expect we're going to see polls bounce
around a little bit for the firsttwo or three weeks, etc. But
then it's going to settle back downto this in part. And this is
this Governor Doug Bergham from North Dakota, who is being talked about as a

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VP choice. I predict you won'tbe, but he's an impressive guy in
lots of ways. If they wererunning for president and changing those business records
to obscure donations to their own campaign, you know what I'm saying, This
isn't just filing error. Well,I hear what you're saying, but most
Americans cannot explain it. Many ofthe legal act many of your legal experts

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that stood on the curb outside thecourthouse for sex years can't for six weeks
can't explain it. So Americans aregoing to come back to the issues that
affect them because this trial outcome doesn'taffect them. Their inflation affects it does.
Yeah, so voter obviously, comeon, voters are going to vote
their self interest. And I don'tmean that in the narrow selfish kind of
way. It's just like, comeon, what do you care about most

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of your life? You'd probably sayyour children, right, you care about
your spouse. I mean, obviouslypeople care about their faith. But people
are going to vote their self interestoverall, So they're going to come back
to I used the example last week. Your house is on fire. You
look outside. You got one guy. He has a sign on says convicted,
and he's got this big old firehose and it's tied to this hydrant

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and it's just gurgling over with waterpressure. And you know he's going to
be able to save you and yourfamily trapped on the third floor. He
got this other, puny little guy. He's got a sign on that says
not convicted felon, but probably shouldbe, and he's got this little bucket
of water. I mean, whoyou're going to vote for? There?
Right, and America is in thatsituation right now. Plus, I think

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the vast majority of people understand thatthis is a bogus conviction by normal American
justice system standard save five five forzero five eight two five five the number.
I want to get to text.But let's start with Dean in Florida.
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.Welcome Dean, Hey, Thank Dan.
One day, I want to talkabout Fauci. It seems like the

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Democrats just love to protect their own. They will never own up to any
mistake. Uh you know, they'llthey do turn on each other and when
they make a mistake, which ishow upposed to be. That's all.
And then I wanted to get backto the Trump. I mean, it
seems to me like the judge andBrag they colluded. I mean they had

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to have gotten together and put thisgame plan together on how to convict Trump.
Isn't there laws against that? Oh? Sure? Listen if and I
don't believe that kind of collusion occurredhere. If you were saying that Bragg
and the judge met and they said, Okay, this is how we're going
to get Trump, Uh yeah,you bet, that would be legal.
Everybody there could go to jail getinspired. I don't believe that occurred.

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No, I don't believe a prettygood game plan. Well, listen,
I think what you had. Ithink you had a court and a DA
that were similarly inclined. I thinkyou had a court. Obviously, this
judge, while it was only thirtyfive dollars, it's the principle that matters.
The judge had given to an antiTrump organization. There's no way,

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in my opinion, at that pointthat any judge should should be here in
that case. If it had beena judge who had given thirty five dollars
to a pro Trump group, thatjudge should not be hearing that case.
Then, on top of that,this was a situation where the court's daughter,
you know, was working for acompany that made lots and lots and
lots of money from Democrat activist group. And so again, if if this

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had been a pro Trump judge whohad the same kind of family relations,
nobody would want that judge on thetrial. And so so, No,
I don't think there's attorney well,attorney with days is sustaining it or I
mean, it's just a it wasso lopsided, it's not even like a
fair trial. Well but but butDean, understand this. I mean,

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to the extent Jonathan Turley has donebrilliant work on this. Andy McCarthy has
done brilliant work on this. Andboth of those guys were there. I
wasn't even there. Both of thoseguys were there. And so, but
understand this that the way things work, the way things work in the process,
that appearance, that that appearance ofbias will help Trump greatly unappeal because

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I've getten some blowback in the backgroundthere. Dean, thank you for your
call, that'll help them greatly onappeal. Because I believe after forty years
of doing this, and I'm notan appellate specialist, but I'm certainly familiar
with the Pellet law, and I'veattended those hearings in my own cases and
cases that I've covered for national media, and I believe that. First of
all, I believe that the vastmajority of judges across Colorado and the country

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try very very hard to get itright and work very hard to do so,
regardless of political leanings. Second,at the appellate level, I think
that, yeah, you're looking atindividual legal issues because that's what appell court
judges and justices address, but Ithink that judges are also looking at the
totality, They're looking at the overall. They're they're trusting their own intuition to

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a certain extent, the whole greaterthan the sum of the parts. Was
this fair? Was this whole blanketthing fair? And I think all of
these very fair criticisms of the courtin New York, etc. Just lay
the groundwork for it being much easierfor Trump to overturn this on appeal,
because I think the vast majority offolks looking at this, whether they're pelic

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court justices or not, are goingto say, you know, this thing
doesn't feel right. It just doesn'tfeel like this was a level playing field
for Trump. Then you get intosome of the individual issues and rulings,
such as the fact that the originalindictment didn't even specify what the crime was,
that the alleged falsification of business recordswas designed to cover up. I

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mean stuff like that. I've neverbeen more sure of anything in the law
that Trump's going to win. Butas the left knows, it's going to
be after election day, he willnot die convicted. Fellon Donald Trump in
the meantime, that label will behelpful to him politically because people know what's

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really going on here. At leastthe people will decide this election know what's
really going on here. And thechoice now is do we want to be
a banana Republic or not? Eightfive five for zero five eight two five
five. And this is why Isaid the day before the conviction that a
conviction would help Trump more politically.I wish he hadn't been convicted. He
shouldn't have been, but it'll helpmore politically because if he'd been acquitted,

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Yeah, nice, sugar high,you raise some money? How much money?
I'll as grind this when we comeback, and you text me as
well DN five seven seven three nine. How much money do you think Trump
raises if it had been an acquittalrather than a conviction. And if it
had been an acquittal, and Iwish it was, then yeah, you've
got this rash. It's rocket fuelfor his campaign, no doubt. But

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now there's nothing left for the voterto do. Now. What's left for
the voter to do is the voter'sthe only one who can stop America from
becoming a banana Republic by thoroughly rejectingthis tactic of going out now and getting
these wrongful convictions of political opponents.Only the voter can stop it. Only
the voter can save America. That'sthe biggest reason this is going to help

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Trump so much. Eight five urzero five A two five five the number
when we come back. A wholebunch of stuff I want to get into
on top of that, including CaitlinClark is what happened to her over the
weekend on the basketball court? Racial? Is is it because she's straight?
What do you think is going onthere? You're on the Dan Kapla Show

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and now back to the Dan KaplisShow podcast. People also say, can
you bring the country together? Andthe answer is yes, success will bring
the country together, because I amen, I want to hear you say that
a hundred times a day between nowand election day. Success will bring the
country together. We need to hearthat from the president over and over again.

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And then he went on in thatclip to talk about all the success
he had had and he did andthe country was coming together, not in
a big kumbayah, oh there's alefty let me go hug him kind of
way, but the country was comingtogether. If not for COVID, Trump
obviously would have won in a landslide. So that is I mean there are
two ways this three ways this countrycomes together, right, I mean some

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kind of profound divine intervention, whichis always a distinct pot usibility. That's
how this country was created to beginwith. Don't believe me. Ask the
founders right the last line of theDeclaration of Independence, you know where they
just said it. Hey, we'redoing this crazy thing right, which is
likely to fail, and we're alllikely to end up getting hung by the
British. But we're doing all thisbecause we rely on divine providence. So

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it comes together. This country comestogether in one of three different ways,
right, some type of divine intervention, some type of in a good positive
sense, transformative leader. And Ibelieve there's a very good chance that kind
of leader is going to come downthe pike or through success through the country

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as a whole. Never everybody,but enough a solid majority of the country
saying you know what, I don'treally like that solb in office. I
don't like his or her party orwhatever, but the country's doing so well.
That stuff works, that conservative stuffworks, and that's what brings the
country together enough that we can getpast this toxic, dangerous polarization. And

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Donald Trump was on track to accomplishthat when COVID hit, and Donald Trump
is in a position to accomplish thatagain in a second term. There's no
guarantee it would happen, but thereis an infinitely better chance that it would
happen then with the Democrat. Andby the way, it's probably time for
us to talk about this again becausewe waste so much time and it's so

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silly talking about Joe Biden and talkingabout Trump versus Biden, etc. And
I understand at the moment it's nominallyrelevant because Biden is the presumptive nominee,
but we all know Joe Biden isnot going to be the Democrat candidate and
election Day, so as we talkabout this fallout from this wrongful conviction,
you know, it really is onedimensional and just playing stupid for us to

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talk about it in terms of Biden. We have to be talking about what
it's going to mean on election Daywhen Trump is facing that Democrat nominee,
whoever he or she may be.And obviously the answer to that question is
different depending upon who the nominee is. Eight five five four zero five A
two to five to five the numbertext d A N five seven seven three

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nine. I know right now,the presumption is that the DEM nominee would
be Jared Polis, Right, Isn'tthat the presumption in the police household?
Ryan? I thought it was infront of an audience of one maybe yeah,
right and yeah, I won't goodtime, right, but anyway,
uh yes, So at this point, right that this smart money would be

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that the DEM nominee is either goingto be Newsome or they're going to be
stuck with Kamala Harris and then twovastly different scenarios. They're right, but
I'm just putting it out there.Let's let's just start being a little more
accurate and talking in terms of ofwhat's really going to be the situation on
election day, and that is notgoing to be Joe Biden. Let's go

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down to Beautiful Publo. We'll startwith Roger. You're on the Dan cap
A Show. Welcome, Roger.Oh, Roger, I want to give
you this little news bullet and poppingup on CNN right now, breaking news
Georgia case now unlikely to go totrial before election after court set's October hearing
to consider removing da Fannie Willis,So think about this scenario, as perverted

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as the left is right now whenit comes to our justice system. This
scenario that President Trump wins the secondterm, which is likely at this point,
and then these lefti's don't stop andFannie Willis puts him on trial anyway
down in Georgia and convicts him andsentences in jail in Georgia. I mean,

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keep in mind that possibility. Becausethe left right now is many of
them not all so consumed with hateand so one caring about America obviously that
you cannot rule that scenario out.Go ahead, my friend, Dan,
how do you doing, buddy?Good? And don't mean to imply that
they could legitimately convict him in GeorgiaFor the reasons I've stated before, These

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are, in my view, boguscharges against Trump, and he he is
not guilty of a crime in Georgia. But that didn't stop what happened in
New York from happening. Go ahead, Dan, how are you doing,
buddy? Living the dream? Still? It's been a while since we talk.
Yes, I got a I hadsome hope going into the New York
City tlge. I didn't go tolaw school, but that was bogus.

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Okay, you're not alone. Igot a I got a bad feeling about
is this judge is just aching toplay him in prison. Okay, did
you, Roger, did you seePresident Trump's response to that this weekend when
he said, I'm not going tobeg I'm not going to beg to stay
out of prison. I love thatresponse. Yeah, yeah, and I

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applauded him for that. But Igot a I got a bad feeling about
this that his appeal in New YorkState will not hold up because it's all
blue and we all hate Trump tothe bone. Yet but but my friend,
remember this bizarre that, this bizarrewhat was it five hundred million dollars
fine against Trump? I mean,first of all, that whole thing should

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have been tossed out. But atleast the appellate court cut it by a
few hundred million and allowed Trump wasn'tallowed to post a bond, So there
is some hope there. I thinkthere are also some constitutional issues that that
could go beyond the New York system. I'm hoping they show a brain during

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all this, you know what Imean, Yeah, hoping they show that
they got half a burden and Roger, I got a bell now. But
great to hear from you, myfriend. And again, another reason I
have confidence is because you have thesemultiple appellate levels, and then you have
some constitutional due process issues you knowthat arise as well. I mean in
our federal constitution, you know,so ultimately you've got enough possible levels of

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appeal that in a case where inmy opinion and my view of this,
you know, there there is somuch error that eventually it's hard to even
imagine a scenario where this conviction couldstick day five to five four zero five
eight two five five textdam five sevenseven three nine And as Andy McCarthy says,
I think you know, the lefthas known him that for a long

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time, but they don't care.They just wanted a conviction before election day.
Hopefully try to get Trump jailed.And and again I love what Trump
said over the weekend. I'm notgoing to beg this judge to keep me
on a jail. I think oneof the more interesting things, and I
wish it would be televised, willbe the sentence scene of President Trump following
this wrongful conviction just days before theGOP Convention. I wish that would be

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televised because Trump will have a rightto speak at that sentencing and it'll be
fascinating to see what he says.But I love his attitude that he's not
going to beg to stay out ofjail. And Ryan, what do you
think the chances are that this trialcourt sentences him and actually puts him in
jail. He may sentence him tojail time and suspended. He may order
some home detention. Whatever he does, I fully expect to be stayed pending

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appeal, meaning it'll be put offinto the future pending appeal. My question
would be do they want him towin? Because he will absolutely win if
they go ahead and do that.Yeah, one of the many reasons I'm
very confident he will. They willnot attempt to put him in jail.
Now eight y five for zero fiveA two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine. Doyou think President Biden wants Hunter Biden convicted

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in the trial that started today?You're on the Dan Capless Show. You're
listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast. There he's tuned. But what's that
all about? What's the hidden meaning? The deeper point? Just at Atlantis.
Morris set tended to write a lotin ironic and that was one of

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her songs, Like contradictions. Okay, I knew it was deep in some
way, and so deep. Istill don't understand it. She and I
are the same agent. She justturned the big five. Oh hmm hmmm.
She's a couple months older than me, though. Wow, I cannot
believe that you're going to be fifty. Yeah, really, it's coming up.
Honestly, if I met you onthe street, i'd put you at

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thirty. Yeah. Wow, Ineed you to be my hype man,
gonna bring you along. Yeah.No, No, it doesn't take any
hype, doesn't take anype at all. It's just a fact hype. This
was some hype. See what doyou think President Trump should do next in
order to ensure victory in November.We'll be talking about that more tomorrow.
But I think these first few daysare critical. And this was Sean Strickland.

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You want to fight a UFC fightover the weekend. This was in
New Jersey and Trump was there andit was raucous and it was awesome,
and I was so glad to seeTrump there because this is a critical demo
for him, right, And thiswhole UFC thing is a way to reach
younger people and more diverse people.It's a beautiful thing, and it has
to really terrify the left, particularlyas they try to decide who their nomine

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he is going to be for November. But anyway, what do you think
he should be doing right now?Because you know, there's prime time right
Like when I try a case,you know, I find yours to always
be very attentive and hard working.But you know, and you know how
it is in your own life,no matter what you do for a living,
you know, in your personal life, you know, in your relationships,
there's that prime time. There arethose moments where people are most dialed

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in and most receptive, and somany people are dialed into President Trump right
now. What do you want tosee him doing in the first week?
But anyway, here was the encouragingreaction at UFC, the Trump you the
man broing to the damn travesty whatthey're doing now. I'll be donating here,
my man. Let's get it done, get it done, god like

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second lady, gentlemen. Yeah,and they say two hundred million race since
last Thursday's conviction, seventy million ofit small money, I meaning under two
hundred dollars contributions. Great to see. So that's that's fascinating though when you
think about smaller contributions, because theday of the conviction, I donated five
hundred. I would not have thoughtof that as like you think of large

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contributions. You think of these moneymen, these billionaire types. But I think
it so if they're saying seventy millionsmall money mean two hundred or less,
I would think that you probably hadone hundred million or more that came from
people who were, you know,real wealthy folks. And I love that
because again, it just shows theenthusiasm. And they talk about this enthusiasm

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gap, this enthusiasm gap between Trumpand Biden, which is a beautiful thing
to see, right, But Ithink we also because you always have to
be clear eyed about the threats inthe landscape, you have to be clear
eyed about the strengths of your opponent, in this case the Democratic Party,
not Joe Biden. But you've gotthis enormous enthusiasm for President Trump, which

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is now off the scale among hisyou know, supporters and people like me.
You are going to vote for him? Anyway. But we have to
be realistic about the fact that thereis intensity and enthusiasm not for Biden or
the Democrat nominee, but to voteagainst Trump. We have to be realistic
about the fact, even though wedon't agree with it, that it is

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out there, and it is outthere in a large enough dose to be
a threat on election day. Soif you're advising President Trump, aren't you
telling him that, Hey, betweennow an election day, you need to
be doing everything you can to softenthose folks, to drain that group of

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some of their enthusiasm for voting againstyou, while not losing the enthusiasm of
your supporters. I think there's anawful lot opportunity there because the enthusiasm for
Trump among those who are going tovote from anyway is so high. I
think it's almost impossible to lose that. So I think that gives him more
room to move in terms of tryingto lessen the enthusiasm of those voting against

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him and if nothing else, justjust get him to stay home. So
that's why I want to go tothis clip, and I think this should
be his refrain throughout the campaign.You don't have to give up the fun
stuff. You don't have to giveup the edge. But this needs to
be you know, he's a masterbrander. This needs to be his branding,
you know, bringing us together.You know, people also say,

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can you bring the country together?And the answer is yes, success will
bring the country together because I hadit together. See that is such a
great point. Now, a lotof people would disagree that the country had
come together under Trump. It waswell on its way, and if it
hadn't been for COVID, I thinkit would have come together to a significant
extent after he's reelected. But successcan bring the country together, as we

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talked about earlier, and I thinkhe needs to just keep talking about that
together and as I will bring ustogether, I'll bring us together through success,
because that's also credible. If hegot up there and tried to say
I'll bring us together through force ofmy personality, it wouldn't be credible and
it would hurt his brand as atruth teller and somebody who's authentic. And
when I say truth teller, Iunderstand. Every now and then Trump tells

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a whopper, right, just somethingabout you know where you just have to
laugh and you wonder, is itpart of a comedy routine. Right,
he'll come out and say something likeI've never lost to this or I've never
lost to that. But Trump hasan authenticity that helped him win in sixteen
and is helping him now. Andif he was to come out and say
that, oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, I'll bring us

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together just because I'm me and peoplelove me, nobody's going to buy that.
But it rings true. If yousay I'm going to bring us together
through success, We're going to beso successful this nation will come together a
lot more. I hope he keepstalking like that because that will also help
drain. You don't have to drainall the enthusiasm of that block that's enthusiastic

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about voting against you. They don'tgive a darn about Biden. They probably
don't even like them. They're notenthusiastic about him or the Democrat nominee.
They're enthusiastic about voting against you.I think that approach, which is credible,
helps drain that. Let me getto some text to a dam five
seven seven three nine, Dan,if you actually listened to the rambling nonsense
that Trump utter is trying to keepthe focus on himself, he as well

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as Biden are not firing on allcylinders. I disagree with that. Listen,
Donald Trump is as Donald Trump andthe A plus Trump since the conviction
that he was in the weeks leadingup to the conviction. No, I
think that just shows that he's humanand that obviously, you get convicted of
thirty four felonies, no matter howbogus it is, etc. No matter

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who you are, let alone aformer president who's done so much for the
country and could have just ended yourlife and the ultimate luxury instead stepped up
to serve. Yeah, he's humanand I think he's shown that humanity,
you know, since this wrongful conviction. And has he been as sharp,
Has he been as on target allthe time as he was in the week's
leading up. No, but heis still benefiting in the ways we've discussed.

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People can see this for what itis. They don't want to be
and a republic, and he's justgoing to get sharper from here. Biden.
In the meantime, you can tellthat's not intellectually honest from the text
or Biden obviously has not been competentfor a long time. I mean he
has moments, right, but overallhe's not been competent, and he's just
getting worse. Dan, why didyou say the statutes of a statute of

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limitations had run, meaning expired.That's on the misdemeanor false book keeping entry
charges and they were on I thinkthey were on maybe a five year clock,
but they had expired in twenty nineteen. The only way they were able
to bring them back from the deadwas to link them with this bogus claim
that Trump had violated federal election financelaws state finance laws I believe as well,

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And that's how they were able tobring it back. Dan. Even
the Colorado voting system will not allowfor a fair election because any public services
providing to illegals allows them to registerto vote. So we have lots of
people even in the Colorado system thatshouldn't be voting. Respectfully, disagree,
Texture and if I'm wrong, somebodyplease just show me I'm wrong here.
The fact that somebody is able toregister for saying electric bill or gas service,

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etc. It just does not qualifysomebody to go vote in Colorado.
I don't believe it qualifies them toregister to vote. If I'm wrong about
that, please do point that out. By the way, fascinating peace today,
and we'll try to spend more timeon it. That Biden has secretly
basically suspended the asylum process for threehundred and fifty thousand people, very quietly

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done. That I'm over simplifying itat the moment, but allegations out there
right now that he's taken three hundredand fifty thousand people who entered I legally
and basically put the legal process onhold for them so they can just wander
the country without at this point anytype of fear or repercussion, at least
for now. Now. That doesn'tmean they'd be eligible to vote. But

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Texter, so I don't believe that'saccurate. Please do correct me if I'm
wrong. I understand the concern thatfolks have about folks here illegally who may
then try to vote. I understandthe concern folks have, and I don't
criticize that concern. You know,I don't think it's happening in large numbers,
but I understand the concern that itmight one is too many. I

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get that too. But I also, as I pointed out on air,
remember when you had the whole groupof folks who had come here illegally then
make all the demands on Denver MayorMike Johnston. And I said at the
time, Hey, they're just actinglike voters because I think those folks understand
completely why the Democrats invited him here, Let him into the country, allow

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them to stay, take care ofthem, because the Democrats view them as
future voters. And I think,you know, is it possible that in
the minds of some they believe thatthey're able to vote right now? I
could see where maybe that confusion wouldexist because of the way the left has
courted them. But certainly the leftuse them as future voters. Eight five
five for zero five A two fivefive the number you're on the Dan Capla

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Show. And now back to theDan Kaplass Show podcast. Just now,
I think the second or third timeon this show when I've co hosted that
we have talked about women's basketball,and it is because of Caitlyn Clark.
So the WNBA has been a failureforever. It just has been. You
can like the product, you candislike. Bias carried it. They don't

(29:27):
make money. They have not turneda profit ever, and you look at
the interest at the college level.Now at the WNBA level in Caitlin Clark,
the jersey sales, the ticket sales, the TV ratings. This league
would be suicidal to not protect itsmost valuable asset in the history of the
league and letting her get like shovedaround like this is embarrassing, that should

(29:49):
not be allowed to stand. Andthen notice the woman who checked her to
the floor then wouldn't talk about it. It's like, oh, next question,
No, I'm sorry, you justflager fouled the league's star. Yeah,
you don't get to say, nocomment. Well, you know a
lot of people making this out tobe racial because Kitlyn Clark, if you
don't follow women's basketball, Caitlyn Clarkis white, and the woman who not

(30:14):
woman who knocked her to the flooris black. And then this Angel Reese,
who had been a great college playerand arrival of Clark's from the college
days, cheered on the move andcongratulated the one who thuggishly knocked Caitlyn Clark
down. So a lot of peopletrying to say it's racial, A lot
of people trying to say it hassomething to do with with, you know,
whether somebody's gay or straight. CaitlynClark being straight. I don't see

(30:38):
it that way at all. AndRyan, tell me if you think I'm
missing something, I don't see itthat way at all. I think this
is as old as time. Ithink it's biblical and nature. I think
it's just raw jealousy. I thinkthey are just profoundly jealous of Caitlyn Clark
and the big dollar endorsement deals andall of the love and adoration that she

(31:00):
I don't think it has to dowith race. I don't think it has
to do with whether somebody's gay orstraight, or who they sleep with.
I think it's just jealousy. AndI'm gonna take a step further. Dan,
you might not go there, butI'm going to because this reminds me
a lot of a situation I encounteredwith a young woman who I really looked
up to. She was two gradesolder than me. Her name was Andrea
Kimball. She was an all statebasketball player. She ended up going to

(31:22):
Western Michigan out of our little podunkgrass Lake High School, but she transferred
before graduating from grass Lake because therewas so much cattiness on the team that
resented her that they didn't want topass her the ball. And I'm sorry,
I think this is more prevalent inwomen's athletics than men's. I don't
think that a Caitlin Clark type playeron the men's side would receive this kind
of treatment, not remotely, notclose. And I've seen this too when

(31:45):
I'm talking to a fellow colleagues ofmine who were female athletes in a team
sports setting. For whatever reason,it's a lot harder, I think,
to get them to all pull inthe same direction to sacrifice for the good
of the team. And I justdidn't experience that in my boys sports in
high school. Yeah, and again, I just think it's jealousy here.
And I understand you're stereotyping your genderstereotype. And he's saying it's cattiness.

(32:09):
It is. And I played witha major league baseball player, by the
way, a guy that would endup in the major leagues, and you
know, he was cocky and ericagain, and he had a lot of
scouts coming out to see him.And would I have rather been into his
shoes? Yeah, but I wantedto win. That was more important to
me. So I'm just saying that'smy experience. Well, but but what
Ryan Schuling is is saying, andI'm not trying to shame before it or

(32:30):
anything. I respect you coming forwardwith your opinion, but what you're saying
is that you just think it's aWhat we're seeing with the roughing up of
Caitlin Clark is a cattiness. Yes, that's just you Ryan Schuling are contending
is part of of the female gender. I think that it's harder to coach.
Bill Amber was successful at it withthe Detroit Shock, but it's a

(32:52):
unique challenge. I think women aredifferent than men. I think they're wired
differently in this regard. I reallydo. And that's what I witnessed,
that's what I've exc experience myself.Yeah, and listen, I'm not trying
to be woke or politically correct orpolitically woke or any of that stuff.
I just respectfully disagree. I don'tthink it has anything to do with that,
and and I would apply that onmultiple levels, from you know,

(33:13):
work stuff to other stuff. Ijust don't see it that way, my
friend, I think this is jealousy. Now. I do think there should
be an enforcer. And what reallyconcerned me is that nobody on Caitlin Clark's
team knocked the floor with that,with that girl who had knocked her down,
right, you know, where's theenforcer? And and that's what I
want to see from Caitlin Clark's team. I don't want to see anybody,

(33:37):
you know, scheduled for a funeralor anybody seriously injured. But I want
to see somebody from Kaitlin and Clark'steam the next time somebody knocks her down.
You know, don't hurt, butdo do retaliate within the bounds of
the sport, you know, doretaliate. I mean, you've got to
protect your your teammates. Eight fivefive or zero five two five five?

(33:58):
Dinn Are you going to talk aboutthe cops killed in New York by an
illegal? Says a Texter. Thankgod those officers are still with us.
Here's the Fox story. Illegal immigrantfrom Venezuela shoots two New York City police
officers during footchase, and Queen's authoritiessay, and so just before one five
am this morning, those officers stillalive, both are expected to recover.

(34:22):
Let's pray for those officers. Butin terms of ammunition, that hey,
it's it's national suicide to not havea border. This this is, yes,
another very very important exhibit, butwe have so many other exhibits as
well. You just can't have anation like that. If you don't have

(34:42):
borders, you don't have a nation. America gets that. Biden's efforts now
to try to pretend like you're seriousabout the border, they're going to convince
anybody. Brian, tremendous job,my friend as always, Kelly, great
work. Tremendous Aura as well.Behind the glass Texters. If we didn't
get to you today, A lotof these are Evergreen Oultre try to get
them back on air tomorrow. Pleasejoin us at four on the dan Kaplo shop
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