Vince Bzdek joins Dan to discuss his latest editorial for the Denver Gazette entitled 'Denver grows its homelessness-industrial complex.'
EDITORIAL: Denver grows its homelessness-industrial complex - Denver Gazette
A woman shot and killed by an ICE agent today in Minneapolis is reportedly 37-year-old Colorado native Renee Nicole Good. City mayor Jacob Frey tells ICE to 'get the f--- out of Minneapolis, we don't want you here' in the wake of the tragic indicent.
EDITORIAL: Denver grows its homelessness-industrial complex - Denver Gazette
A woman shot and killed by an ICE agent today in Minneapolis is reportedly 37-year-old Colorado native Renee Nicole Good. City mayor Jacob Frey tells ICE to 'get the f--- out of Minneapolis, we don't want you here' in the wake of the tragic indicent.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I'll tell you who's fighting that fight every day.
That's the Denver Gazette and they're doing tremendous work. I
hope you take a quick look. And if you're not
a subscriber, now that you've become one quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's a real go to. Let's go to Vince Bizdik.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He is of course the editor of the Gazette and
they do a lot of great work in a lot
of areas. But they coined the term the homeless industrial
complex for what has been going on in Denver. They
had another installment of this in the January to House Editorial. Vince,
welcome back to the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Dan, great to be back, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
For those who have not seen the House Editorial yet,
can you give them an overview of this Denver Homeless
Industrial Complex and the latest chapter there.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know, we have written a lot of accountability stories
about how Denver is trying to tackle homelessness, and it
feels like they're almost perpetuating the problem more than solving
the problem. For a variety of reasons, but one of
them is they've kind of created a super bureaucracy, a
web among a wide ranging number of nonprofit contractors, subcontractors,
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city and county governments, and you know, we've kind of
been finding one hand is watching the other, resulting in
this revolving door hiring between cities and homeost service providers.
And the latest incident of that is in May, the
city hired a new deputy director of well, let's see
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what his title exactly, is Deputy director of Denver's Office
of Housing Stability, and they hired him from his company
called Urban Alchemy, where he was the chief growth officer. Well,
loan behold. The city council just approved a contract in
December for Urban Alchemy to start running it's probably most
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troubled shelter, the Double Tree Shelter. And the problem is
not only that Kaziski used to be their chief growth officer,
but they have a whole list of problems Urban Alchemy
does with their operations across the country. They face criticism
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and lawsuits involving allegations of labor code violations, employee misconduct, discrimination,
sexual assessment, sexual harassment, and allegations of reaching lobbying rules.
And Kaziski was even involved in one of those allegations
about the lobbying rules. So it's very incestuous, right, and
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then and then even worse with this new contractor to
run this homeless shelter. We we did some research on
Urban Alchemy and six percent of their staff are former prisoners.
So that's what could go wrong. Model is to hire
former business for prisoners. So now Dan, we've got staff
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there for Homa Shelter in Denver, and it just seems
like a weird way to solve the problem. And that's
kind where our editorial went. If that makes sense to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You, Oh it does, But but Vince, what could go
wrong there? I mean, ninety six percent of your people
are former prisoners. But what's the rationale for that? Because
I think everybody listening that you know, they want people
to have second chances. But when your business model it
is to hire largely former prisoners, what's the rationale?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
The rationale Urban can be told us. The rationale is that, hey,
these people know sort of the streets, and they know
they were once a lot of them were once homeless,
and they can relate to these people. And you know,
they know how to talk to homeless people and help
them that they have lived experience, you know, man, And
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I think that could be true. But god, I mean,
you look at our recidivism rate in Colorado, right, and
fifty percent of our prisoners go back to prison. So
a lot of them haven't solved those problems for themselves alone.
You know, whether or not they can help others solve
their problems.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, but I think it goes back to where you
started all of this, which is, wait a second. You
know that they seem to be perpetuating the problem rather
than solving it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And is that intentional? I mean, is that intentional on the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Part of this homeless industrial complex the politicians behind it
to not solve the problem, because obviously there's a lot
of money involved here. I think the contract you were
talking about to run the double Tree, you know, that
got into some pretty serious eight figures.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah. You know, I have written before Dan that by
some estimates, Denver spends a half a billion dollars on
its housing situation every year, the diver Housing Authority ALON
spends two hundred and sixty seven million dollars, So we
are talking a lot of money. Now. I do think,
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you know, our new mayor was very genuine about trying
to do something about homeless steps. The problem is, I
think it's mostly an optical, superficial solution. He did get
a thousand people off the street in his first term,
and he's gotten another thousand offs since then, but they
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mostly went to these temporary shelters, these these hotels, the
city Box and you know, these camps, and it wasn't
really permanent housing. And we did some serious enterprise reporting
on this approach, and it really was all these all
these places are run by people who are good at
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emergency services. They're not good at getting people wrap around
services to help them become you know, valuable members of
a community. Again, they don't get them mental health services,
they don't get them addiction services. So yeah, they got
a lot of people off the street and into these shelters.
But then then you know the point of time account
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they do every year, almost this went up last year.
You know, it's still went up, which it's gone to
solving the problem right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right when you're mayor and you come out and you're
inaugural address and you say, come to Denver, we will
get you a home. I mean, then, of course homelessness
is going to grow. And at what cost did they
just hide all these people in what used to be hotels?
A cost that's unsustainable, I think, is the Gazette has
so well documented.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah. Yeah, And I do worry Dan that you what
you said is true that now Denvers identify a place
where you can get shelter and food without too many
strings attached. I found the programs that work best have
strings attached, like the Step Up program where they really
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require men to live in their shelter, not do drugs, work,
They require all these things of people so that they,
you know, get out of their bad habits. And I
just don't see the city overall really focusing on those
permanent changes and really helping people get away from their
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addictions and their mental health problems and you know, get
into housing that they can sustain through work and through
healthy living, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, Which brings them back to the question of whether
they really want to solve the problem, because I think
there are a lot of your readers and a lot
of people listening, you would say, wait a second, Okay,
if we're talking about breaking the cycle and rehabbing people
and helping them actually, you know, get back to a
normal life, then yeah, I'm good with spending some money
on that. But but I don't see that as the
Democrats play. I see the Democrats plays get them off
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the street, you know, ty to make voters happy, but
perpetuate all this and then you know, suck up these
three hundred to five hundred million dollars a year with
their different crony networks.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I worry about that, Dan, I also worry you know,
the Democrats want to be empathetic and in empathetic about
homeless people, but keeping them homeless, that's not empathy to me.
You know, that does not help them. And so I
think they think they're helping them. But I also think,
like you said, these contractors have vested interest in receiving
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their money and continuing to receive their money. Now the
city did you know, decide that to get away from
three contracts. The Salvation Army ads run shelters, and we
did some reporting on their problems running these shelters. But
then to me, Dan, they went to somebody worse, you know,
in this urban alchemy that that wasn't that wasn't a
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step up. It's you know, a place run mostly by
convicted criminals and with some with some dicey, dicey track
record around the country.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, listen an Evince Bistik, our guest editor, the Denver Zet.
I know, you know, there are some people involved in
helping the homeless who.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Have the purest of motives and they do great work.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, I'm thinking of and I'm on the board
of directors of Catholic charities. I'm thinking of Samaritan House
and places like that where they have rules, they have
a system, their goal is to help these people break
this cycle, and they achieve their goal a lot. So,
you know, you have the examples of what will work.
I just don't understand why Denver doesn't want to fully
commit to that.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Denver doesn't seem to embrace those programs except you know,
here and there and those programs that work. It's interesting, Dan,
they don't get a lot of support from the city government.
They do their own work, you know, they do their
own fund raising, and those independent groups like you mentioned
seem to do a better job at this, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Think they have a different goal in mind.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But Vince, I love the work that the Gazette's doing,
the hard work, that the really true journalism, and please
do keep it up and hopefully more and more people will.
We'll find you and dial in.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Thank you. Dan. We're really committed to accountability journalism and
we just feel government Denver needs a pretty pretty sharp watchdog.
So that's what we're about.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Amen to that. Well, keep it up, my friend, appreciate
the time today.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Thanks for having me, Dan, take care.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That is Evince Bizdik from Denver Gazette. I'm a subscriber.
I hope you become one too. Hey, when we come back,
we have a lot of ground to cover, including this
shoot up in Minnesota. And is there any question that
this was anything other than a legally justified shoot You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, and.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I have a message for Ice to Ice, get the
fuck out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here.
Your stated reason for being in this city is to
create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly
the opposite. People are being hurt, families are being ripped apart.
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Long term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to
our city, to our culture, to our economy are being
terrorized and now somebody is dead. That's on you, and
it's also on you to leave. It's on you to
make sure that further damage, further loss of life and
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injury is not done.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Is anybody notice how many like disproportion Democrat leaders we
have who are mentally and emotionally unstable. I'm not saying
they all are, and maybe it'd be more precise, who
have some really bizarre mentally unstable moments? Do we have
that sound Handy Ryan, I'm remote today obviously, but that
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sound of Polis having that breakdown on the house floor
that the mainstream media didn't do much with, but we
certainly have. And that doesn't mean that Jared Polis is
mentally unstable. That's not the point. It's just that we
have these Democrats like today this mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye,
who have these really mentally and emotionally unhinged public moments.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Such as this one. And listen, just like Tim Walls,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's the venom from people like this Minnesota mayor and
from Walls, the governor up there, and from Michael Johnston
and others. That leads to this violence, that leads to
this violence against law enforcement, and then leads to death,
really sad death. Like this woman who used to be
from Colorado, ren A Good thirty seven, you know, who
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was killed by the ICE agent today. But from the
publicly available video, she makes a decision to drive right
at him after she's been told to stop, and she's
driving away from another ICE agent who has told her
to stop, and according to the angle of the video
I've seen, it looks like the ICE agent has then hit.
But bottom line is if somebody is told to stop
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and chooses to drive directly toward a left law enforcement officer,
they should expect to get shot. Doesn't mean that every
law enforcement officer in that same situation is going to
make the same decision, but it means that I think
it's clearly an unequivocally illegally justified shooting. And so for
somebody like this mayor to come out and say that's BS,
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but he says the full word and then say Ice,
get the f out of here. All that he's doing,
and he hass to know it is encouraging more violence
against law enforcement, which means that more people are going
to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But you think he cares about that. Knowing Ryan, do
you have.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A favorite clip from that long police attack on the
woman who is serving a Speaker of the House that day?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Would you fire that? This is our own governor Jared
Polos back when he was in Congress.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Well, gentlemen from Colorado, understand, all members.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Well, the speaker understand that the speaker is obstructing Hr
fifteen from coming to the floor. Will speak, Will a
speaker understand that? Will the speaker understand that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Gentleman be proceeed?
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Will the speaker understand that the speaker is preventing Hr
fifteen from coming to the floor. And that is why
there are men and women in the gallery that potentially
phase deportation and their families are being torn apart.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's very simple. It's very simple, very simple, Madam.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Speaker, Wow, talk about a psychotic break and talk about sexism.
If a Republican had done that to a female Democrats
Speaker of the House, their political career would.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Have ended that day.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But we see this, we see this, We saw it
from Polis, we see it from lots of these elected Democrats.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And it makes you wonder what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But that aside, hopefully there will not be more violence
in Minnesota tonight. But to me, it's just one of
the saddust and most dangerous things in America right now,
the way that the Democrats promote this violence against law enforcement,
violence against political opponents. Even after President Trump miraculously and
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I believe it was divine intervention that saved him in
that Butler field, but even after he miraculously avoids the
assassin's bullet, the Democrats continue to use these violent imagery
with regard to Trump. But you go back, you go
back historically. I was a target of it when I
was in student governmant c U Boulder. The Left can't
win on log and fact and reason, so the left
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has to resort to other things, including violence, which has
been a central part of their playbook for a long
long time. So it's our job just to defeat that,
to overcome it, to stand tall against it. And just
so sad that you know, today we see a life
lost and not the fault of the ice officer, not
from everything I've seen. And it'll be interesting, Ryan, as
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we learn more about Rene Good thirty seven at one
point from Colorado, and we'll see you know what that
whole history is. But why does anybody make a decision
to accelerate toward a law enforcement officer after they've been
told to stop?
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Well, and that's this is the chaos you tackled the
projection day. I think that's a key point from Jacob
Fry from Tim Walls defining ICE as gestapo agents looking
to kidnap people off the streets, planning these seeds of
fury and rage and anger in the mind of someone
like this young woman. It would appear because she just
slammed on the gas dan when she was clearly being
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asked to exeter vehicle. And anybody knows you're in that situation,
you do what the officer tells you to do, and
you certainly don't try to plow that officer over with
your vehicle, as it appears is what happened in that video.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I don't know. Do ICE agents wear bodycam?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I hope this first of all, the publicly available video
so thoroughly supports the ICE agent who fired the shots
to begin with it. But if he has bodycam on
as well, that will further support him. But from everything
I've seen, there could not be any kind of honest
or credible criminal prosecution of him. But it'll be interesting
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to see what they try to do up in Minnesota,
because at this point it's clear through this Mayor Fry
and through the Governor Wall's rule of law, equal application
of the law, fare out location a lot, none of
that matters to those guys, right, So we'll keep an
eye on that.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Three seven three eight two five five. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Take glad you're with.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Us keeping a close eye on what's going on up
in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is so many on the left.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Starting with Tim Walls and then that goofball, equally goofball
Mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, appear to be openly trying
to incite violence, and so let's hope they don't get
what appears to be their wish there three O three
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the fatal shooting of a thirty seven year old woman
used to be from Colorado, drove a vehicle after being
told to stop, drove a vehicle directly at an ice
officer and was shot and killed. By all appearances, clearly
legally justified. Shoot, let's go to the phone lines there
in Fuego. We'll start with Kent in Bellevue. You're on
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the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Welcome, Hey Dan, how are you doing living the dream?
My friend? How about you?
Speaker 9 (19:14):
I'm good good. I just called to say, like, as
a supervisor, if something happens at work, the first question
we asked is how could this accident.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Have been avoided?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And so in that.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
Poor gal in Minnesota's case, you know, how could have
been avoided? Well, how about not being there to begin with?
She was there to disrupt and cause issues, and it's
in her life.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Listen, somebody wants to show up and they want to protest,
and they want to voice their opposition. As long as
they're not interfering with law enforcement operations, knock yourself out.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's America.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But when you are interfering and then you're given direct orders,
and here here's the key, even if the order was
somehow unjustified, and there's no indication it was unjustified. But
even if it was, you still have to follow the order.
You can't then just accelerate at toward a law enforcement
officer with your vehicle. Now, there are reports out there
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right now, and this is happening quickly, so I can't
independently verify on the fly.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But there are reports.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Connected to some video excuse me, that seemed to indicate
that the deceased wife was on the scene outside the vehicle,
videoing the scene. And if that turns out to be corroborated,
what does that tell you?
Speaker 10 (20:42):
I'll agree about.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
These guy's a limit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
We've had so many and again it's at the encouragement
of the left. Right, Mike Johnston talked about sending Denver
police out to take on federal law enforcement. Fifty thousand
Denver rights taken into the streets, all the encouragement from
the left to combat law enforcement officers who are just
enforcing the law. I mean, these are the new Confederates,
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you know, these lefties like Johnston and others who say,
we don't like this federal law, so we're not going
to let you enforce.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It in our town.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, that's not America, and that's the irony, right, They
get these no Kings demonstrations, when in fact it's the
left who want to be the Kings.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They don't want to follow the law. They don't want
to follow the federal law.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So they're going to use large numbers of people to
try to block federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law. Well,
thank god we have Trump standing up to them and
say no, we're one nation and way.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's rule of law, and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
We're going to enforce the federal law. Johnston and the
rest on the left don't like that. Hey, thank you
for your call, Kent. Let's go to Leonard in beautiful Pueblo.
You're on the Dan Caplis show.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Welcome, Yes, sir, I just calling fat that they got
got hurt in radio day that the court is doesn't
Danian Belleta. But what do they overspend when they have money?
Don't have that much, but's coming in right, they keep
supporting supporting illegal alien immigrants at the same time takes
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him out of the budget and they would probably be
able to balance a budget.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, you're right about all that. And can you imagine
if we did not have Tabor how deep a hole
we'd be in Leonard?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Thank you for that. Call.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The big question, of course, is whether Colorado voters are
going to care.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We talked to Michael Allen earlier. He's the Olpasso DA
running for attorney general, and I'm so glad he is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
He'd be a great attorney general.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He's got a real chance to win because his opponent
is probably going to be Jenna Griswold, and again not
a pejorative.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
She just whack And there's nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Who can honestly say they picture her as an attorney general.
I don't think there's any office you can picture her for,
but certainly not attorney general, certainly not law enforcement officers.
So real chance to win there, but that won't be
driven by the Democrats overspending. It'll be interesting to see
if Colorado voters really care about that at this point.
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Let's go to Boulder. Talk to Susan. You're on the
Dan Caplis show. Thank you for your patient, Susan.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well?
Speaker 12 (23:16):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I'm great? Thank you? What are you thinking?
Speaker 12 (23:22):
This happened yesterday and I thought of you. Yesterday morning.
I got an email from the Center for Humanities and
the Arts from CU Boulder, from the chair of the department,
and it gives information what's going on. But her basic
letter was she wrote it after the US took control
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of Venezuela. And she goes on and says, how a
horrible thing it is, and that we have the US
federal government is a fastest authoritarian regime.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
How are you on this mail list?
Speaker 12 (24:01):
Well, I aw that classes But the more interesting part
is that this came in at a thirty and I
will gladly send this to you.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Please came in at a thirty.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
And the thing is later that day I get another
email and she says, I accidentally left out this crucial,
crucial piece of information ahead of the January newsletter. So
they're resending it. And please note what it was at
the bottom, which says that she is speaking on as
a as a private individual. And then it says the
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director of the CHA, Jennifer Hoe, is not enough officer
of the university. Therefore, all comments by doctor Hoe are
not to be confused as con miser it with a
reflective of comments by the university. And I'm here is
somebody that's head of a department telling us that we
lived in a fascist government. Yeah, you get yourse. Its
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consequences yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, but please do send it to me. If you
hang on, Ryan can give you my direct email. But no,
we would love to see that and think.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
What starts the stuff that happens in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
No, and you know, if you go out and I
haven't seen this particular email, but we hear it from
the left all the time. You go out and you
portray our law enforcement officers as the enemy. I think
if I remember Mike Johnston had referred to National Guard
if they were coming in from other states as invading
things like that, what do you expect to happen? Because
there are some real wing nuts out there now, I'm
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the first guy Susan to say on air, wait a second,
I'm not going to blame somebody on the left for
political violence if they use common types of you know,
war or or fighting kind of metaphors. Right, people on
both sides do that, Hey, we're in the fight of
our lives. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, stuff
like that. Those are common police metaphors. But when you
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decide to single out law enforcement as the enemy as
all of these other bad things, you know that what
you're doing now is green lighting some violent wing nuts
out there. To go out and take them out. And
so I think it's flat out immral what people like
Tim Walls and this Jacob Fry the mare up there,
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and what Mike Johnston did you know? Mike Johnston dresses
it up a little better. But when he comes out
and talks about sending Denver police out to the county
line to stop ice and fifty thousand Denver rights in
the streets and referring to out of state National Guard
as an invasion, what does he think he's encouraging?
Speaker 12 (26:42):
Right, Yeah, for her to send it out and it
came out in her official capacity and then she has
to walk it back. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well please do
not very that's not very smart.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
No, please do send it to us. Would love to
love to see that. Thank you, Susan, appreciate ate it.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
You're welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
When we come back, we have a lot of ground
to cover. I have to tell you though, it's just
kind of visceral for me, Ryan, every time we have
an issue out to see you or a caller or whatever,
it just brings a smile to my face because I
loved every single day on that campus.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I loved that campus. I loved being there.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I felt so lucky to be there, and yeah, you
had all this goofball lefty politics and at one point
the leftist put me in the hospital and everything else.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But I just love the place.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It is a special, special place, and I just hope
over time we can get some actual balance in there.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But still I just smile every time there's a CU.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Topic three or three seven one, three eight two five
five the number text d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And now back to the Dankaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Wow, I just had an experience I don't think I've
ever had before. Ryan, have you had this happen where
you look in the mirror and you don't recognize the person?
I mean it's like a millisecond, It's a flash, right,
I mean obviously I figured out mirror me. I mean
even my dog does that. But have you ever had
that happen for just like that millisecond?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah, after maybe some rough nights, rough days, Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wish that what it was.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know, I am as you know, I'm buried now
in trial prep again for a big trial we have
coming up in February, So I'm just isolated and I'm
just just doing that deep work, and so all of
a sudden I just looked in the mirror and long
hair beard. I mean, not like a Santa Claus beard,
but for me a beard.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And it's like, who's that guy?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But yeah, well it might be an improvement. Three or
three someone three eight, two, five, five the number. Let's
go to David in whatmore.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You're on the Dan Kaplos Show. Welcome David.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
Dan Hey, thanks for your coverage, and I want to
do a little back and forth. I was trying to
reach out yes, and they see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It, well, thank you.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
The I'm just trying to figure out. Let me make
this statement first, real quick. You repeatedly make statements about
the GOP will not win the mid terms. I'm trying
to figure out why you take that position.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Go ahead, you sure sure, let me start with that, David,
good question, and believe me, I want the GOP to
win the midterms. I'm just a truth seeker. And the
reality is that there is so much pent up anger
and intensity, and that comes from the political impotence the
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left has right now and the success of Donald Trump.
You know that the Democrats and their supporters are just
ready to unleach, and I think we're going to see
massive turnout on the Democrats side in the midterms. On
the other side, we've seen it over and over again,
my friend, haven't we where a meaningful number of Trump
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voters do not show up if Trump is not on
the ballot. And when I combine that with historical trends
and and right now how the House is essentially equally divided,
that's why I think.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We're going to end up a few seats short in
the midterms.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
So I know you're a very successor attorney, and you
keep you and out that Teama at a fair trial,
and I really don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
You have all the facts.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
And would you win a trial, let's say the wind
with springs one if you are unable to.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Put a defense.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
So I know you're on the other side on this week,
sure would you have been would you be able to
win a try trial having a defense?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, listen, if your point is that you have to
be able to present your evidence the evidence that by
law that should come in, no, you're right.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We we were blessed with a very good and fair
and balanced trial court that allowed both sides to fully
present their case within the bounds of the law, and
that's what you know led to the big verdict, the
truth that.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Came out to that evidence.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So I understand your point is that Tina Peters was
not allowed to put in evidence that she should have
been able to put in, right, That's that's what you're saying.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
Like none, So you might want to do a little
more research. Stat Ryan had opened on. I don't know
if they covered that topic or not, but i'd highly
recommend versus that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So, well, my.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Friend, can you help me out right now? Hey, if
you can help me out right now?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I've done a bunch of research and I am not
seeing what evidence Tina Peters could have put in that
would change the underlying fact that she gave somebody who
was not entitled to access access, and she gave them
improper credentials to do that, and then they shut off
the video system to facilitate it. Now, my point on
(31:56):
Tina Peters has been I believe that she was properly
charged and convicted, but she should no longer be in prison,
and I think it's wrung for police to be keeping
her there under that the very principles police has set
now through his own actions. So yeah, I don't think
she should be in prison anymore.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I got that.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
I think a little more investigation or research on that maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Well just tell me.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
We're here, David, my friend, as you know, you're always
welcome here, and we're having a conversation right now. If
if you can tell me what evidence would have changed
the outcome if she'd been allowed to put it in.
I'd love to have that conversation. If her attorney wants
to be on the show, open door, love to have
that conversation.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
I'm not an expert on it. That I've heard multiple times,
and I understand that the person that helped her with
that evidence or whatever, and they and I know you
find this hard to believe the Secretary of State kind
of changed the move to cheese, if you will, on
the whole thing situation. On that note, I think she
(33:02):
was tricked a little bit about who she let in there,
and I understand that she probably did something wrong. We're
going to leave that alone right now, because I'd like
to talk about Colerado elections for the past fifteen years.
I'm curious why you believe we have the same percentages,
the same turnout, the same numbers that and that they
(33:23):
they're not dumb. They give us a few wins here
and there, so that not many really questioned the system.
But Dan, the system is mailing ballots the machines. And
I don't know if you've listened to President yesterday morning
talk about when you go to paper.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Ballots and.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
Tyler I was fought with corruption.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well, David, where I come down on that is listen,
my mind's open to whatever's true and whatever facts are
out there. But when I look at this, of course
there should be a very, very demanding voter id and
there's no question that when you have mail in ballots
you have more opportunity for fraud. What I've never seen
is any evidence that there's fraud occurring on a large
(34:10):
enough scale to be changing the outcome of these races. Now, David,
the music means that obviously we have to bail for today.
But my door is open, David, whether it's you or
somebody else, to walk into the studio, take an hour,
lay out all the evidence showing the scale of voter
fraud that you believe exists. I think what we can
(34:31):
agree on is there shouldn't be any zero tolerated at all. Ryan,
Thank you very much, I hope you join us tomorrow
on The Dan Kaplis Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I'll tell you who's fighting that fight every day.
That's the Denver Gazette and they're doing tremendous work. I
hope you take a quick look. And if you're not
a subscriber, now that you've become one quickly.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's a real go to. Let's go to Vince Bizdik.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He is of course the editor of the Gazette and
they do a lot of great work in a lot
of areas. But they coined the term the homeless industrial
complex for what has been going on in Denver. They
had another installment of this in the January to House Editorial. Vince,
welcome back to the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Dan, great to be back, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
For those who have not seen the House Editorial yet,
can you give them an overview of this Denver Homeless
Industrial Complex and the latest chapter there.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know, we have written a lot of accountability stories
about how Denver is trying to tackle homelessness, and it
feels like they're almost perpetuating the problem more than solving
the problem. For a variety of reasons, but one of
them is they've kind of created a super bureaucracy, a
web among a wide ranging number of nonprofit contractors, subcontractors,
(01:26):
city and county governments, and you know, we've kind of
been finding one hand is watching the other, resulting in
this revolving door hiring between cities and homeost service providers.
And the latest incident of that is in May, the
city hired a new deputy director of well, let's see
(01:48):
what his title exactly, is Deputy director of Denver's Office
of Housing Stability, and they hired him from his company
called Urban Alchemy, where he was the chief growth officer. Well,
loan behold. The city council just approved a contract in
December for Urban Alchemy to start running it's probably most
(02:12):
troubled shelter, the Double Tree Shelter. And the problem is
not only that Kaziski used to be their chief growth officer,
but they have a whole list of problems Urban Alchemy
does with their operations across the country. They face criticism
(02:33):
and lawsuits involving allegations of labor code violations, employee misconduct, discrimination,
sexual assessment, sexual harassment, and allegations of reaching lobbying rules.
And Kaziski was even involved in one of those allegations
about the lobbying rules. So it's very incestuous, right, and
(02:55):
then and then even worse with this new contractor to
run this homeless shelter. We we did some research on
Urban Alchemy and six percent of their staff are former prisoners.
So that's what could go wrong. Model is to hire
former business for prisoners. So now Dan, we've got staff
(03:18):
there for Homa Shelter in Denver, and it just seems
like a weird way to solve the problem. And that's
kind where our editorial went. If that makes sense to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
You, Oh it does, But but Vince, what could go
wrong there? I mean, ninety six percent of your people
are former prisoners. But what's the rationale for that? Because
I think everybody listening that you know, they want people
to have second chances. But when your business model it
is to hire largely former prisoners, what's the rationale?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
The rationale Urban can be told us. The rationale is that, hey,
these people know sort of the streets, and they know
they were once a lot of them were once homeless,
and they can relate to these people. And you know,
they know how to talk to homeless people and help
them that they have lived experience, you know, man, And
(04:10):
I think that could be true. But god, I mean,
you look at our recidivism rate in Colorado, right, and
fifty percent of our prisoners go back to prison. So
a lot of them haven't solved those problems for themselves alone.
You know, whether or not they can help others solve
their problems.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Well, but I think it goes back to where you
started all of this, which is, wait a second. You
know that they seem to be perpetuating the problem rather
than solving it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
And is that intentional? I mean, is that intentional on the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Part of this homeless industrial complex the politicians behind it
to not solve the problem, because obviously there's a lot
of money involved here. I think the contract you were
talking about to run the double Tree, you know, that
got into some pretty serious eight figures.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah. You know, I have written before Dan that by
some estimates, Denver spends a half a billion dollars on
its housing situation every year, the diver Housing Authority ALON
spends two hundred and sixty seven million dollars, So we
are talking a lot of money. Now. I do think,
(05:24):
you know, our new mayor was very genuine about trying
to do something about homeless steps. The problem is, I
think it's mostly an optical, superficial solution. He did get
a thousand people off the street in his first term,
and he's gotten another thousand offs since then, but they
(05:47):
mostly went to these temporary shelters, these these hotels, the
city Box and you know, these camps, and it wasn't
really permanent housing. And we did some serious enterprise reporting
on this approach, and it really was all these all
these places are run by people who are good at
(06:07):
emergency services. They're not good at getting people wrap around
services to help them become you know, valuable members of
a community. Again, they don't get them mental health services,
they don't get them addiction services. So yeah, they got
a lot of people off the street and into these shelters.
But then then you know the point of time account
(06:30):
they do every year, almost this went up last year.
You know, it's still went up, which it's gone to
solving the problem right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Right when you're mayor and you come out and you're
inaugural address and you say, come to Denver, we will
get you a home. I mean, then, of course homelessness
is going to grow. And at what cost did they
just hide all these people in what used to be hotels?
A cost that's unsustainable, I think, is the Gazette has
so well documented.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah. Yeah, And I do worry Dan that you what
you said is true that now Denvers identify a place
where you can get shelter and food without too many
strings attached. I found the programs that work best have
strings attached, like the Step Up program where they really
(07:23):
require men to live in their shelter, not do drugs, work,
They require all these things of people so that they,
you know, get out of their bad habits. And I
just don't see the city overall really focusing on those
permanent changes and really helping people get away from their
(07:44):
addictions and their mental health problems and you know, get
into housing that they can sustain through work and through
healthy living, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Right, Which brings them back to the question of whether
they really want to solve the problem, because I think
there are a lot of your readers and a lot
of people listening, you would say, wait a second, Okay,
if we're talking about breaking the cycle and rehabbing people
and helping them actually, you know, get back to a
normal life, then yeah, I'm good with spending some money
on that. But but I don't see that as the
Democrats play. I see the Democrats plays get them off
(08:18):
the street, you know, ty to make voters happy, but
perpetuate all this and then you know, suck up these
three hundred to five hundred million dollars a year with
their different crony networks.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I worry about that, Dan, I also worry you know,
the Democrats want to be empathetic and in empathetic about
homeless people, but keeping them homeless, that's not empathy to me.
You know, that does not help them. And so I
think they think they're helping them. But I also think,
like you said, these contractors have vested interest in receiving
(08:52):
their money and continuing to receive their money. Now the
city did you know, decide that to get away from
three contracts. The Salvation Army ads run shelters, and we
did some reporting on their problems running these shelters. But
then to me, Dan, they went to somebody worse, you know,
in this urban alchemy that that wasn't that wasn't a
(09:13):
step up. It's you know, a place run mostly by
convicted criminals and with some with some dicey, dicey track
record around the country.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, listen an Evince Bistik, our guest editor, the Denver Zet.
I know, you know, there are some people involved in
helping the homeless who.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Have the purest of motives and they do great work.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I mean, I'm thinking of and I'm on the board
of directors of Catholic charities. I'm thinking of Samaritan House
and places like that where they have rules, they have
a system, their goal is to help these people break
this cycle, and they achieve their goal a lot. So,
you know, you have the examples of what will work.
I just don't understand why Denver doesn't want to fully
commit to that.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Denver doesn't seem to embrace those programs except you know,
here and there and those programs that work. It's interesting, Dan,
they don't get a lot of support from the city government.
They do their own work, you know, they do their
own fund raising, and those independent groups like you mentioned
seem to do a better job at this, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Think they have a different goal in mind.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
But Vince, I love the work that the Gazette's doing,
the hard work, that the really true journalism, and please
do keep it up and hopefully more and more people will.
We'll find you and dial in.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Thank you. Dan. We're really committed to accountability journalism and
we just feel government Denver needs a pretty pretty sharp watchdog.
So that's what we're about.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Amen to that. Well, keep it up, my friend, appreciate
the time today.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Thanks for having me, Dan, take care.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That is Evince Bizdik from Denver Gazette. I'm a subscriber.
I hope you become one too. Hey, when we come back,
we have a lot of ground to cover, including this
shoot up in Minnesota. And is there any question that
this was anything other than a legally justified shoot You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, and.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I have a message for Ice to Ice, get the
fuck out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here.
Your stated reason for being in this city is to
create some kind of safety, and you are doing exactly
the opposite. People are being hurt, families are being ripped apart.
(11:30):
Long term Minneapolis residents that have contributed so greatly to
our city, to our culture, to our economy are being
terrorized and now somebody is dead. That's on you, and
it's also on you to leave. It's on you to
make sure that further damage, further loss of life and
(11:53):
injury is not done.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Is anybody notice how many like disproportion Democrat leaders we
have who are mentally and emotionally unstable. I'm not saying
they all are, and maybe it'd be more precise, who
have some really bizarre mentally unstable moments? Do we have
that sound Handy Ryan, I'm remote today obviously, but that
(12:18):
sound of Polis having that breakdown on the house floor
that the mainstream media didn't do much with, but we
certainly have. And that doesn't mean that Jared Polis is
mentally unstable. That's not the point. It's just that we
have these Democrats like today this mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye,
who have these really mentally and emotionally unhinged public moments.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Such as this one. And listen, just like Tim Walls,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's the venom from people like this Minnesota mayor and
from Walls, the governor up there, and from Michael Johnston
and others. That leads to this violence, that leads to
this violence against law enforcement, and then leads to death,
really sad death. Like this woman who used to be
from Colorado, ren A Good thirty seven, you know, who
(13:09):
was killed by the ICE agent today. But from the
publicly available video, she makes a decision to drive right
at him after she's been told to stop, and she's
driving away from another ICE agent who has told her
to stop, and according to the angle of the video
I've seen, it looks like the ICE agent has then hit.
But bottom line is if somebody is told to stop
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and chooses to drive directly toward a left law enforcement officer,
they should expect to get shot. Doesn't mean that every
law enforcement officer in that same situation is going to
make the same decision, but it means that I think
it's clearly an unequivocally illegally justified shooting. And so for
somebody like this mayor to come out and say that's BS,
(13:54):
but he says the full word and then say Ice,
get the f out of here. All that he's doing,
and he hass to know it is encouraging more violence
against law enforcement, which means that more people are going
to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But you think he cares about that. Knowing Ryan, do
you have.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
A favorite clip from that long police attack on the
woman who is serving a Speaker of the House that day?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Would you fire that? This is our own governor Jared
Polos back when he was in Congress.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Well, gentlemen from Colorado, understand, all members.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Well, the speaker understand that the speaker is obstructing Hr
fifteen from coming to the floor. Will speak, Will a
speaker understand that? Will the speaker understand that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Gentleman be proceeed?
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Will the speaker understand that the speaker is preventing Hr
fifteen from coming to the floor. And that is why
there are men and women in the gallery that potentially
phase deportation and their families are being torn apart.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's very simple. It's very simple, very simple, Madam.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Speaker, Wow, talk about a psychotic break and talk about sexism.
If a Republican had done that to a female Democrats
Speaker of the House, their political career would.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Have ended that day.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But we see this, we see this, We saw it
from Polis, we see it from lots of these elected Democrats.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And it makes you wonder what's going on there.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But that aside, hopefully there will not be more violence
in Minnesota tonight. But to me, it's just one of
the saddust and most dangerous things in America right now,
the way that the Democrats promote this violence against law enforcement,
violence against political opponents. Even after President Trump miraculously and
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I believe it was divine intervention that saved him in
that Butler field, but even after he miraculously avoids the
assassin's bullet, the Democrats continue to use these violent imagery
with regard to Trump. But you go back, you go
back historically. I was a target of it when I
was in student governmant c U Boulder. The Left can't
win on log and fact and reason, so the left
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has to resort to other things, including violence, which has
been a central part of their playbook for a long
long time. So it's our job just to defeat that,
to overcome it, to stand tall against it. And just
so sad that you know, today we see a life
lost and not the fault of the ice officer, not
from everything I've seen. And it'll be interesting, Ryan, as
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we learn more about Rene Good thirty seven at one
point from Colorado, and we'll see you know what that
whole history is. But why does anybody make a decision
to accelerate toward a law enforcement officer after they've been
told to stop?
Speaker 7 (16:44):
Well, and that's this is the chaos you tackled the
projection day. I think that's a key point from Jacob
Fry from Tim Walls defining ICE as gestapo agents looking
to kidnap people off the streets, planning these seeds of
fury and rage and anger in the mind of someone
like this young woman. It would appear because she just
slammed on the gas dan when she was clearly being
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asked to exeter vehicle. And anybody knows you're in that situation,
you do what the officer tells you to do, and
you certainly don't try to plow that officer over with
your vehicle, as it appears is what happened in that video.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I don't know. Do ICE agents wear bodycam?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I hope this first of all, the publicly available video
so thoroughly supports the ICE agent who fired the shots
to begin with it. But if he has bodycam on
as well, that will further support him. But from everything
I've seen, there could not be any kind of honest
or credible criminal prosecution of him. But it'll be interesting
(17:48):
to see what they try to do up in Minnesota,
because at this point it's clear through this Mayor Fry
and through the Governor Wall's rule of law, equal application
of the law, fare out location a lot, none of
that matters to those guys, right, So we'll keep an
eye on that.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Three seven three eight two five five. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Take glad you're with.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Us keeping a close eye on what's going on up
in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Is so many on the left.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Starting with Tim Walls and then that goofball, equally goofball
Mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, appear to be openly trying
to incite violence, and so let's hope they don't get
what appears to be their wish there three O three
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the fatal shooting of a thirty seven year old woman
used to be from Colorado, drove a vehicle after being
told to stop, drove a vehicle directly at an ice
officer and was shot and killed. By all appearances, clearly
legally justified. Shoot, let's go to the phone lines there
in Fuego. We'll start with Kent in Bellevue. You're on
(19:06):
the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Welcome, Hey Dan, how are you doing living the dream?
My friend? How about you?
Speaker 9 (19:14):
I'm good good. I just called to say, like, as
a supervisor, if something happens at work, the first question
we asked is how could this accident.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Have been avoided?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And so in that.
Speaker 9 (19:29):
Poor gal in Minnesota's case, you know, how could have
been avoided? Well, how about not being there to begin with?
She was there to disrupt and cause issues, and it's
in her life.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Listen, somebody wants to show up and they want to protest,
and they want to voice their opposition. As long as
they're not interfering with law enforcement operations, knock yourself out.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It's America.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
But when you are interfering and then you're given direct orders,
and here here's the key, even if the order was
somehow unjustified, and there's no indication it was unjustified. But
even if it was, you still have to follow the order.
You can't then just accelerate at toward a law enforcement
officer with your vehicle. Now, there are reports out there
(20:17):
right now, and this is happening quickly, so I can't
independently verify on the fly.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But there are reports.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Connected to some video excuse me, that seemed to indicate
that the deceased wife was on the scene outside the vehicle,
videoing the scene. And if that turns out to be corroborated,
what does that tell you?
Speaker 10 (20:42):
I'll agree about.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
These guy's a limit.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
We've had so many and again it's at the encouragement
of the left. Right, Mike Johnston talked about sending Denver
police out to take on federal law enforcement. Fifty thousand
Denver rights taken into the streets, all the encouragement from
the left to combat law enforcement officers who are just
enforcing the law. I mean, these are the new Confederates,
(21:10):
you know, these lefties like Johnston and others who say,
we don't like this federal law, so we're not going
to let you enforce.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It in our town.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
No, that's not America, and that's the irony, right, They
get these no Kings demonstrations, when in fact it's the
left who want to be the Kings.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They don't want to follow the law. They don't want
to follow the federal law.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
So they're going to use large numbers of people to
try to block federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law. Well,
thank god we have Trump standing up to them and
say no, we're one nation and way.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's rule of law, and.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
We're going to enforce the federal law. Johnston and the
rest on the left don't like that. Hey, thank you
for your call, Kent. Let's go to Leonard in beautiful Pueblo.
You're on the Dan Caplis show.
Speaker 11 (21:51):
Welcome, Yes, sir, I just calling fat that they got
got hurt in radio day that the court is doesn't
Danian Belleta. But what do they overspend when they have money?
Don't have that much, but's coming in right, they keep
supporting supporting illegal alien immigrants at the same time takes
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him out of the budget and they would probably be
able to balance a budget.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
No, you're right about all that. And can you imagine
if we did not have Tabor how deep a hole
we'd be in Leonard?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Thank you for that. Call.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The big question, of course, is whether Colorado voters are
going to care.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We talked to Michael Allen earlier. He's the Olpasso DA
running for attorney general, and I'm so glad he is.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
He'd be a great attorney general.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
He's got a real chance to win because his opponent
is probably going to be Jenna Griswold, and again not
a pejorative.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
She just whack And there's nobody.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Who can honestly say they picture her as an attorney general.
I don't think there's any office you can picture her for,
but certainly not attorney general, certainly not law enforcement officers.
So real chance to win there, but that won't be
driven by the Democrats overspending. It'll be interesting to see
if Colorado voters really care about that at this point.
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Let's go to Boulder. Talk to Susan. You're on the
Dan Caplis show. Thank you for your patient, Susan.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well?
Speaker 12 (23:16):
How are you Dan?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I'm great? Thank you? What are you thinking?
Speaker 12 (23:22):
This happened yesterday and I thought of you. Yesterday morning.
I got an email from the Center for Humanities and
the Arts from CU Boulder, from the chair of the department,
and it gives information what's going on. But her basic
letter was she wrote it after the US took control
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of Venezuela. And she goes on and says, how a
horrible thing it is, and that we have the US
federal government is a fastest authoritarian regime.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
How are you on this mail list?
Speaker 12 (24:01):
Well, I aw that classes But the more interesting part
is that this came in at a thirty and I
will gladly send this to you.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Please came in at a thirty.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
And the thing is later that day I get another
email and she says, I accidentally left out this crucial,
crucial piece of information ahead of the January newsletter. So
they're resending it. And please note what it was at
the bottom, which says that she is speaking on as
a as a private individual. And then it says the
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director of the CHA, Jennifer Hoe, is not enough officer
of the university. Therefore, all comments by doctor Hoe are
not to be confused as con miser it with a
reflective of comments by the university. And I'm here is
somebody that's head of a department telling us that we
lived in a fascist government. Yeah, you get yourse. Its
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consequences yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, but please do send it to me. If you
hang on, Ryan can give you my direct email. But no,
we would love to see that and think.
Speaker 12 (25:12):
What starts the stuff that happens in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
No, and you know, if you go out and I
haven't seen this particular email, but we hear it from
the left all the time. You go out and you
portray our law enforcement officers as the enemy. I think
if I remember Mike Johnston had referred to National Guard
if they were coming in from other states as invading
things like that, what do you expect to happen? Because
there are some real wing nuts out there now, I'm
(25:40):
the first guy Susan to say on air, wait a second,
I'm not going to blame somebody on the left for
political violence if they use common types of you know,
war or or fighting kind of metaphors. Right, people on
both sides do that, Hey, we're in the fight of
our lives. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, stuff
like that. Those are common police metaphors. But when you
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decide to single out law enforcement as the enemy as
all of these other bad things, you know that what
you're doing now is green lighting some violent wing nuts
out there. To go out and take them out. And
so I think it's flat out immral what people like
Tim Walls and this Jacob Fry the mare up there,
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and what Mike Johnston did you know? Mike Johnston dresses
it up a little better. But when he comes out
and talks about sending Denver police out to the county
line to stop ice and fifty thousand Denver rights in
the streets and referring to out of state National Guard
as an invasion, what does he think he's encouraging?
Speaker 12 (26:42):
Right, Yeah, for her to send it out and it
came out in her official capacity and then she has
to walk it back. Yeah yeah, yeah, Well please do
not very that's not very smart.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
No, please do send it to us. Would love to
love to see that. Thank you, Susan, appreciate ate it.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
You're welcome, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
When we come back, we have a lot of ground
to cover. I have to tell you though, it's just
kind of visceral for me, Ryan, every time we have
an issue out to see you or a caller or whatever,
it just brings a smile to my face because I
loved every single day on that campus.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I loved that campus. I loved being there.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I felt so lucky to be there, and yeah, you
had all this goofball lefty politics and at one point
the leftist put me in the hospital and everything else.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But I just love the place.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It is a special, special place, and I just hope
over time we can get some actual balance in there.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But still I just smile every time there's a CU.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Topic three or three seven one, three eight two five
five the number text d an five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
And now back to the Dankaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Wow, I just had an experience I don't think I've
ever had before. Ryan, have you had this happen where
you look in the mirror and you don't recognize the person?
I mean it's like a millisecond, It's a flash, right,
I mean obviously I figured out mirror me. I mean
even my dog does that. But have you ever had
that happen for just like that millisecond?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah, after maybe some rough nights, rough days, Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wish that what it was.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You know, I am as you know, I'm buried now
in trial prep again for a big trial we have
coming up in February, So I'm just isolated and I'm
just just doing that deep work, and so all of
a sudden I just looked in the mirror and long
hair beard. I mean, not like a Santa Claus beard,
but for me a beard.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
And it's like, who's that guy?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But yeah, well it might be an improvement. Three or
three someone three eight, two, five, five the number. Let's
go to David in whatmore.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
You're on the Dan Kaplos Show. Welcome David.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
Dan Hey, thanks for your coverage, and I want to
do a little back and forth. I was trying to
reach out yes, and they see.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
It, well, thank you.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
The I'm just trying to figure out. Let me make
this statement first, real quick. You repeatedly make statements about
the GOP will not win the mid terms. I'm trying
to figure out why you take that position.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Go ahead, you sure sure, let me start with that, David,
good question, and believe me, I want the GOP to
win the midterms. I'm just a truth seeker. And the
reality is that there is so much pent up anger
and intensity, and that comes from the political impotence the
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left has right now and the success of Donald Trump.
You know that the Democrats and their supporters are just
ready to unleach, and I think we're going to see
massive turnout on the Democrats side in the midterms. On
the other side, we've seen it over and over again,
my friend, haven't we where a meaningful number of Trump
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voters do not show up if Trump is not on
the ballot. And when I combine that with historical trends
and and right now how the House is essentially equally divided,
that's why I think.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We're going to end up a few seats short in
the midterms.
Speaker 10 (30:15):
So I know you're a very successor attorney, and you
keep you and out that Teama at a fair trial,
and I really don't think.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
You have all the facts.
Speaker 10 (30:28):
And would you win a trial, let's say the wind
with springs one if you are unable to.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Put a defense.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
So I know you're on the other side on this week,
sure would you have been would you be able to
win a try trial having a defense?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, listen, if your point is that you have to
be able to present your evidence the evidence that by
law that should come in, no, you're right.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We we were blessed with a very good and fair
and balanced trial court that allowed both sides to fully
present their case within the bounds of the law, and
that's what you know led to the big verdict, the
truth that.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Came out to that evidence.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So I understand your point is that Tina Peters was
not allowed to put in evidence that she should have
been able to put in, right, That's that's what you're saying.
Speaker 10 (31:18):
Like none, So you might want to do a little
more research. Stat Ryan had opened on. I don't know
if they covered that topic or not, but i'd highly
recommend versus that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So, well, my.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Friend, can you help me out right now? Hey, if
you can help me out right now?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I've done a bunch of research and I am not
seeing what evidence Tina Peters could have put in that
would change the underlying fact that she gave somebody who
was not entitled to access access, and she gave them
improper credentials to do that, and then they shut off
the video system to facilitate it. Now, my point on
(31:56):
Tina Peters has been I believe that she was properly
charged and convicted, but she should no longer be in prison,
and I think it's wrung for police to be keeping
her there under that the very principles police has set
now through his own actions. So yeah, I don't think
she should be in prison anymore.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I got that.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
I think a little more investigation or research on that maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Well just tell me.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
We're here, David, my friend, as you know, you're always
welcome here, and we're having a conversation right now. If
if you can tell me what evidence would have changed
the outcome if she'd been allowed to put it in.
I'd love to have that conversation. If her attorney wants
to be on the show, open door, love to have
that conversation.
Speaker 10 (32:42):
I'm not an expert on it. That I've heard multiple times,
and I understand that the person that helped her with
that evidence or whatever, and they and I know you
find this hard to believe the Secretary of State kind
of changed the move to cheese, if you will, on
the whole thing situation. On that note, I think she
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was tricked a little bit about who she let in there,
and I understand that she probably did something wrong. We're
going to leave that alone right now, because I'd like
to talk about Colerado elections for the past fifteen years.
I'm curious why you believe we have the same percentages,
the same turnout, the same numbers that and that they
(33:23):
they're not dumb. They give us a few wins here
and there, so that not many really questioned the system.
But Dan, the system is mailing ballots the machines. And
I don't know if you've listened to President yesterday morning
talk about when you go to paper.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Ballots and.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
Tyler I was fought with corruption.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well, David, where I come down on that is listen,
my mind's open to whatever's true and whatever facts are
out there. But when I look at this, of course
there should be a very, very demanding voter id and
there's no question that when you have mail in ballots
you have more opportunity for fraud. What I've never seen
is any evidence that there's fraud occurring on a large
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enough scale to be changing the outcome of these races. Now, David,
the music means that obviously we have to bail for today.
But my door is open, David, whether it's you or
somebody else, to walk into the studio, take an hour,
lay out all the evidence showing the scale of voter
fraud that you believe exists. I think what we can
(34:31):
agree on is there shouldn't be any zero tolerated at all. Ryan,
Thank you very much, I hope you join us tomorrow
on The Dan Kaplis Show.
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