October 31, 2024 • 34 mins
Wayne Williams, former Colorado Secretary of State, joins Dan to discuss the password leak controversy and firestorm in the aftermath of an error made by current Secretary of State Jena Griswold's office in posting such sensitive, confidential information in a spreadsheet on their website.
Heidi Ganahl, Rocky Mountain Voice has been following the story from its outset and updates Dan on the very latest details as more are calling on Griswold to resign.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
We've got lefty heads exploding everywhere right now, and it's
just so much fun to watch and talk about. Let's
go to the VIP line talk to Wayne Williams, former
Secretary of State in Colorado, very very highly regarded secretary
of state, respected across party lines. Wayne, Welcome back to
the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Dan, thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wayne. What do you make of what I view as
just this monumental failure by the Colorado Secretary of State's office?
Six hundred of these bios passwords, and we'll ask you
in more detail what those are and what they can do.
What do you make of those being published? The story
right now? The reporting is online four months before discovered,
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and then that Jenna Griswold allegedly didn't tell the county
clerks for five days after it was discovered.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So everyone who's ever had an employee knows, and everyone
who's ever been a person knows that mistakes are sometimes made.
And this was I believe in inadvertent disclosure. But when
the Secretary became aware of it, she did not take
appropriate action. She should have immediately notified the county clerks
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and should have immediately begun the process of inspecting the machines.
That finally a week later is what was announced today,
and that's something that there was no reason to wait
for the week. It causes one to question whether that
waiting only occurred in the hopes that no one would notice,
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and whether that was actually triggered when someone else brought
that forward. I will note that at least one of
the people who brought the issue forward, according to the affidavit,
knew about it months ahead of time and didn't say
anything either.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I thought that wasn't that person wasn't part of the
secretary of State's office.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right, they weren't. But the Secretary of States should be
encouraging people to come forward when they see something. So
if you see something as you go into a polling
place that's not right, tell the election judges. Then tell
the county clerk. Then don't wait for yea.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But this isn't the fault of the person who discovered
it didn't come forward, right, I mean, what possible reason
could there be for the Secretary of State, once this
is discovered, to not notify the clerks. And the allegation
is that she sat on it until it was publicly reported, and.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
She did because I've talked to enough clerks to know
that they were not told. And that's where the fact
that an error occurred is bad. The fact that nothing
was done to address that error, that people were not informed,
that the steps necessary, such as suspecting the machines were
not being taken, that lies squarely at the top, and
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that's where the real issue is here, because when you
become aware of an issue, particularly one that affects the
conduct of an election that is underway, you need to
take action to address that immediately. We believe that the
clerks are trusted election partners. That's who we have repeatedly
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said we should be trusting. We have as a people
in Colorado, and each end of our individual counties elected
someone to be that clerk. That clerk is charged with
running the election and not tell the clerk, there is
an issue with your machine. We inadvertently disclosed a password
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that could be used. Is I believe inexcusable. I will
note right that the password by itself can't do anything
unless you actually have physical access to the machine. But
if you have that physical access, there are a number
of things that can be done with that password. The
bios you asked about that in the passing at the
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beginning is the route password to make changes in the computer.
You could change where it boots up from. You could
have it boot up from a thumb drive. You could
install and activate a wireless device. Any of those could
be done with that route password. And that's why it's
so critical that every one of those machines that had
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a password disclosed is inspected. I am glad the governor
has stepped forward.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I am sure if you asked a week ago, he
would have done it then. But that request didn't take
place a week ago, and it should have.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, should it have taken a request? What's that should
have taking a request to the governor once his story broke,
shouldn't he, as governor have taken the lead and said,
wait a second, I'm getting to the bottom of this.
I want a special prosecutor. I want everything done immediately
to go out there and make sure this whole process
is safe and secure. But why are we just hearing
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from them now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know, I'm looking at it from the Secretary of
State standpoint, which is the Secretary State should have made
that request if you don't have the resources to do
it yourself until you know, I would say, as a
former Secretary of State, I don't know. The governor always knows,
my business doesn't, but certainly that offer is something that
could have been made when it broke a couple of
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days ago, And I don't know if it was or wasn't,
But what I do know is that if you don't
have the resources to do it yourself, then you need
to see those resources. And there is a history at
state government of working when together when the Department of
Transportation had got hit with a ransomware my it people
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went in to help, even though the Secretary of State's
job is not helped DOT deal with ransomware. But in
this case, you've got a situation where the clerks weren't
told the trusted election partners who actually have the machines
that the public wasn't told and you know the statement
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of you know, we're going to call it a partial
password release is not accurate. It was the complete password.
It is all one needs to access and change the
bios to a machine if you have that physical access. Now,
I do want to emphasize a couple things Dan, that
we've got under some standards that I adopted the Secretary
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of State. We now have paper ballots, and Colorado did
not have paper ballots and all the jurisdictions when I
became secretary. It's one of the new standards I adopted.
So you do have an actual paper ballot to refer.
You do have a risk limiting audit that we established
when I was secretary, where we forensically exist and the
actual ballots and make sure the machine was accurate. I
(07:04):
would say we ought to examine more of those ballots
this time. I would if I were Secretary, I would
be picking a closer race, which is what triggers the
number of ballots reviewed in each county, because I think
this cast a cloud that we need to be able
to rebut and we do that by examining more ballots
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forensically and making sure that the election was indeed counted. Accurately.
But that first step, right is going back here, changing
the password and making sure nothing changed in the bias.
If something was changed in the bias, if there's an
alteration in the log then you need to completely take
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that machine out of service, reinstall everything, do a new
logic and accuracy test, and rescan anything that went through
that machine. And that is that's a step that has
to be taken. You can't take that stuff until you
know whether anything did occur. And that's why that inspection
should have been taking place last.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Week, not this week, right, And before I get to
next step, questions on Okay, let's say in one of
these machines, hypothetically a change is found. Wouldn't that require
shutting everything down? But before I get to that wing,
going back to the apparent decision of Griswold, at least
the reporting not to tell the clerks at that point,
doesn't that clearly mean that she was putting her own
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political interest ahead of election security and integrity?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That specter is there. I want to focus right now
and making sure this election is run properly, and that's
what the focus of my concern is between now and
when this election is finished. In at the vote of
the electoral college. So that's where I think.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
The focus needs to be. Let me ask you this
on that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Certainly, certainly I have not heard a logical explanation yet
for why that decision was made. I think I just
offered one, and I've heard no rebuttal, no rebuttal explanation.
Let me let me refrain that, right, and so you
(09:19):
know there may be I haven't heard it. At which
she was asked by Kyle Clark, would you did you
plan to tell the public ever? Did you plan to
tell the clerks? There was no answer, and that's troubling
because part of the issue, the way you increase confidence
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and elections, and I've talked to this and lots of
times is transparency. That's why we have bipartisan judges. It's
why when I built the counting room for Opasa County,
I put the largest windows in it. The fire Marshall
would let me put in, we should be transparent in
what is happening. And that's not what occurred here, and
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that's what the issue is, right, and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's why you were respected across party lines, and many
secretary of States from both parties were because that's what
this state needs, and she's the polar opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And as I said, I have heard no logical explanation
for the action. And why, right, why would you not
tell the county clerk who has a machine that's potentially
well has had the password posted on this In the.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
End, my constitutionally protected opinion, this proves Griswold does not
care about election integrity in Colorado. She cares about herself
and her politics. That's the only reason not to tell
the clerks, because I'll tell you this one. I don't
think there's anybody in this state who has any doubt
about even one of the clerks. So the only conceivable
reason not to tell the clerks is Griswold doesn't really
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care about election integrity.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, and it wasn't just one of the clerks that
she didn't tell. She didn't tell. As far as I know,
I'm not aware of her telling any.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Of any of them any And I've been.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
In contact with some of the leadership of the Colorado
County Clerks Association. Uh, you know the Alpacicantic clerk who
found out about it, well via you know us US.
You know, when the based on the letters sent by
the Colorado Republican Party. That's never how you should find
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out as an election official that there's a problem, and
that that is the part which is not a decision,
not a screw up by a staffer, that's a decision
made at the top.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Well, I sure appreciate it. You've been fantastic to come on.
I wish you were still in that office, and I
hope we can follow up on this as the story unfolds.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Happy to it would not have happened this way were
I there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh amen, No, I truly wish we could bring you back.
Thank you, Wayne. You take care. That is Wayne Williams.
And if you're new to the state, Wayne was widely
respected across party lines when he was in that job.
That's the type of person Democrat or Republican, the type
of person we need in that job. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show. Podcast doesn't
even feel like Halloween for some reason. I think there's
just so much focus on this presidential race. But get
home tonight and we'll give away the candy. And for me,
at least, Halloween, it's it's such a cool day because
just growing up as a little kid. You know, well,
I had more than this goal in life. But one
(12:42):
of my biggest goals in life was to get a
decent job, get a decent paycheck, and be able to
give out full size bars. Because growing up in the neighborhood,
there was one family that gave away full size bars.
And I guarantee you every kid who went to Saint
Mary Star of the Sea with me could tell you
where they lived.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And it's you know, it's just a very cool thing.
So so that's what I do every Halloween. And so
I go home and I'll love it, and it's just
so cool. The kid's eyes light up. It's a full
size bar, and then you can hear them out there
they're getting away full size bars. It's just a cool thing.
So eight five five four zero five eight two five
five and I won't bite anybody. Did you see Ryan
(13:20):
those pictures Biden bit three different kids yesterday? My goodness, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Doesn't surprise me though it's weirdo.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, my goodness. And anyway, a lot of ground to
cover if you just joined us. Wayne Williams joined us earlier,
George Brockler at four h six. As we talk about
one of the biggest scandals I don't, and scandal I
use that term more broadly. We've ever seen in any
elective office in Colorado the Colorado Secretary of State who's
been so self righteous, right, the one who wanted to
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keep Donald Trump off the bellt and the interest of democracy,
to protect democracy, voters shouldn't have a choice, right for
the leading presidential candidate, Supreme Court slaptor down nine zip,
Jenna Griswold, who sent what tens of thousands of mailors
to people not eligible to vote before one election and
now thanks to the Colorado GOP outed on six hundred
(14:11):
very important passwords. Has just heard Wayne Williams describe on
her show former secretary of State you know, published online,
sat out there reportedly for a very long time. And
here's here's even worse. Once it was discovered, according to
the reporting, she didn't tell the county clerks for five
days and only told the county clerks according to the reporting,
(14:32):
after it became public. And as you just heard me
asking Wayne Williams, is there any explanation for that other
than she just doesn't care about Colorado election integrity. She
cares about herself. She cares about herself politically she cares
about her politics, but to me, that's absolute, concrete proof
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she doesn't care a whit about election integrity. Very ironic
since she's out there campaigning to put other people in jail.
Eight five five for zero five eight two five five
the number. So we'll take your calls. We'll get to
text on that as well. I do have to get
to this sound from Mark Cuban, And you know, the
left is just a gift that keeps on given, and
(15:13):
the Left is so anti woman in so many provable ways,
starting with glorifying the killing of over a half million
females a year in America. But Mark Cuban comes out
and says, Donald Trump, you never see him around strong
intelligent women ever.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's just that simple. Obviously one of the dumbest things
ever said in American politics on two different levels, first
just provably false to the extreme and second handing the
political opponent a gift, right, a major gift, since clearly
Donald Trump is around strong intelligent women all the time.
(15:56):
And so again it's hilarious now as we watch the
Harris Cam pain try to back pedal off of that.
But just another gift from the left, maybe maybe a
bigger gift in its own way, Ryan than Biden labeling
us as garbage.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
No, Biden, he is the president and you expect him
to have some role in the campaign. My question is,
why is Mark Cuban, of all people, an advocate, a surrogate,
one of the top ones, it appears for the Kamala
Harris campaign.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well, that's all they could get, right, and he knows that.
He assumes. I believe that there's an awful lot in
it for him if she wins. But yeah, but he
he at that point right now. I don't think he's
intentionally out to sinker, not at all. I think Biden is,
and I think Obama is, and I think Michelle Obama is,
and I think a lot of these others are like Whitmer.
(16:46):
But no, I think he thinks he's trying to help her,
and then he was just exposed in that moment, so
as you know, being willing to say anything, no matter
how false, to try to help her, and then of
course it ends up hurting her as it should.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
This is mindless, though. I'm trying to view this from
Cuban's perspective. He's trying so hard to rip Trump that
he didn't even realize in that moment what he was
really saying about all women who support him must be
weak and dumb.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, no, it's well, that's starting point with the left, right,
His starting point with the left is the truth means
nothing to them. So as the left sits there and
they debate, for example, they're not thinking through, Okay, what's true.
I want to say what's true? They're just thinking there,
I've got to respond to this argument, I've got to
hit back heart, et cetera. And the truth isn't even
a relevant consideration to them. And I think that's how
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this sort of things ends up happening now. The Biden
gift to the Trump campaign, the Biden DeCamp of Harris,
that was Biden saying something false that he believes to
be true. That was Biden speaking the truth as he
sees it. Now. He's wrong, He's completely wrong, It's absolutely false.
(17:58):
The opposite is true. The quality of the typical Trump's
supporter is one hundred times greater than the quality of
Joe Biden. Here on the Dankplas Show.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So was it a ghost this morning, Ryan, I only
asked because it was Halloween, and it's never happened before.
I've never heard of it happening. And I'm backing out
this morning. Every time I hit reverse, that my trunk opens,
you know, because I have an SUV with a hatchback.
Happened over and over again. I don't even think there's
a mechanical explanation for that. No, so is that Halloween
(18:38):
and I've I've had other encounters. You may want to
call him ghost, I would call him spirits or you know,
life that's still out there, but this was the first
one like that. Hey, let's go to the VIP line.
Sh'll of the answer. That's Heidiganol from Rocky Mountain Voice,
who's been very, very focused on election integrity issues. Obviously
(18:59):
now across the country there's great attention being paid to
self righteous Jenna Griswold, the gold Standards, self described gold standard,
Jenna wund six hundred bios passwords being put online and
according to the reporting, even after she found out, she
didn't tell the county clerks until the story went public.
So and not much concern there for election integrity on
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the part of Jenna Heidi, what do you make of that?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, Dan, I would suggest she could probably blame it
on ghosts in the machine, but that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's not the cave.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
This is really serious. And I don't know if you
saw the letter that Scott Gessler wrote for the Trump campaign,
but there's some demands on how to fix this ahead
of the election. We'll see if she meets them. She
was supposed to meet him by ten am this morning.
I have a call into Scott to see if that happened.
But this isn't the only problem right now. I have
a whole list. I just put out an article earlier
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today on Rocky Mountain Boys with a compilation the best
hit of all of Jenna's mishaps as Secretary of State,
just that we've discovered or dug into in the last
couple of months. And it's bad. And I can go
through the list, I'm happy to, but most of it
will sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, we only have a two hour show.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I know.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
It's like the remote access in our voting system that
she said didn't exist. It's the passwords that she waked.
Of course, it's the fraudulent ballots that were allowed through
in Mason County, three of which went through the system.
They don't know what if the vote is three points away,
three votes away, what are they going to do? And
then there's the ballot scanners and three counties that aren't working.
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There's voters that are registered in multiple states like Kansas
and New Mexico, and the voter rolls are questionable, and
there's a lawsuit going on around that. So the list goes.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
On and on. Yeah, and Heidi, how do we get
to the bottom of it? That's something when Williams and I,
George Brockler and I were talking about, I mean, there
obviously has to be a special prosecutor. My gut tells
me that there probably wasn't a crime commits, but we
can't know that without a special prosecutor, somebody truly independent,
without forensic experts at his or her disposal. Yet the
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governor's not stepping up to say that. Phil Wiser isn't
stepping up to say that. So are they really just
going to sweep this one under the rug.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
That's going to be pretty tough with all the national
attention on this, especially Laura Trump just tweeted out too
that she's aware of what's going on. Here's the thing
that we discovered through all of this stuff with the
post office, with the machines, with the dropboxes. There are
no outside auditors that come out, like independent forensic auditors
to come in and look at our systems and processes
(21:42):
and say, hey, this works pretty well. The signature of
verification process. You know, there's only zero point five percent
failure rate. That's an example of all the different ways
that we need to look at the various processes, the
voting machines. We have to have external certified forensic experts
that base their work on industry audit standards come in
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and look at every aspect of this, not just one aspect,
but all of it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And what kind of fixes because Scott obviously knows what
he's talking about, Scott Gessler, what kind of fixes do
we need to see? Now?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You know, I don't have the letter right in front
of me, but I believe it was, of course that
they need to change the passwords and change them in
a way that meets expectations by forensic experts, not just hey,
we're just going to go in and change it to
my dog's name and you know the.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Year of my verse.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, kind of kidding, kind of not, but they've got
to do it right, and they put together a list.
It's on my Twitter feed at Heidi Ganal if you
want to check it out the letters, and I can
pull it up before the next break if you want
to keep me on.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But well, I mean you're welcome to stay on, but yeah, no,
need to check it out because I guess part of it,
Heidi is I'm sitting here believing the Left is going
to make her walk the plank very soon, that she
is too much of a liability, my personal suspicion, and
that's all it is is this story. This story was
run to get rid of her before the governor's race.
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But they will make her walk the plank, And so
what happens then.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Dan I actually said the same thing on Twitter last night.
We think a lot of like I was, like, I
think Kyle Clark is exercising journalism because he's helping Polish
get Jenna Griswold out of the way, and they're taking
this opportunity to clear the way for Phil Wiser.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, right, I mean for all these guys on the left.
But I underline guys, because don't the Democrats have a
big problem here because they're so self righteous about we're
holier than now, we're diversity, equity, inclusion, and then all
the top jobs go to boring old white guys or
boring young white guys. Right, So they don't want Jenna.
They don't want Jenna hanging around saying hey what about me?
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What about women?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
You're right, I think it's going to be the governor's race.
I think is going to come down to Mike Johnson
and his money with the LinkedIn founder and Mike Bloomberg
backing him, and then Jonah Goose. Possibly if we keep
the House of Republicans, Republicans win the House, I think
the Goose runs for governor. I think if we don't,
then he runs for Speaker. And then of course Phil Wiser,
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who's I think pull US's favorite. So I think it's
going to come down to those three, and they just
don't need the mess of dealing with a woman. You
know that they've got to play their DEI card and
keep in the race because they have to have their
token woman.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
In the race.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, Heidi canal our guests. This is going to be
amazing to watch because obviously the governor's race starts openly
in a week, well, probably a week from yesterday. Wow. Well, Heidi,
just so great to have you on. And you've been
so diligent about reporting on these issues, way beyond the
password issue. But the password issue is obviously so monumental
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and to me, and this is why I don't think
that the Left will let her survive in office. The
decision not to tell the clerks, because I have not
heard one human express one shred of concern about any
county clerk in Colorado. So for Griswold to decide she's
not going to tell the clerks that, oh, by the way,
those bios passwords to those machines you have, they've been
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compromised to not tell them. The only possible explanation in
my mind is is that she was putting her own
political interest ahead of election security.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I would suggest you're correct, And.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I want to hear from Tina Peters on this. Can
you get me an interview?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Oh my gosh, I can try. If so, you can
call you from county jail.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'll go there and we'll tape it. But
I want to hear from her on this. And Tina
and I have obviously had our disagreements, but I think
she needs to be heard on this as well.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
And I also encourage people to talk to their county commissioners.
I think people underestimate how much power the county commissioners have.
They hire and fire and manage the county attorneys. And
when we tried to do this recount right after my election,
it was the county attorney in Douglas County that put
the kabash on it for the instructions from the county
clerk that they work together. And so your county commissioners
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have a lot of power to affect these issues. So
talk to them, talk to the clerk's office, ask the
right questions. I've put some good questions in this article
that I just put out, like does our do our
voting machines have remote access? And if so, don't tell
me they're just turned off. Have you had a forensic
expert come in and say that they're absolutely full proof
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that no one can get into those machines? And how
about those invoices from the post office? Why don't they match?
Where are all those undeliverable ballots? And how about your
drop boxes? Can we see the footage? Can we watch
and make sure that no one's doing anything that far
you and is the footage high quality enough to prosecute
if the case is.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That, well, you know that great movie line. You know,
being on the left means never having to say you're sorry, right,
Oh jeez? Yeah, Hey, what kind of candy are you
giving away?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I mean I love traditional candy, like candy corn and
you know, just old school halloween candy that.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
We used to get.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah, but I think my husband just went to Costco
and bought eight big bags because our neighborhood's like crazy
for Halloween. But I have three different kids that are
trigger treating, so of course they're all going to three
different neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, well that's the fun of it. Enjoy every minute
of it. Thank you, Heidi.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Thanks Dan, have a great night you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's just it's funny how the human mind works. Right,
For some reason, my mind just flashed to I've been
out with the kids trick or treating. Amy was at
home given candy away at the door, and this group
of like high school boys is walking away from our
front porch, describing my wife as I don't think I
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can use that term on air. Fine, fine, yes, and
going into more detail, but and I just just remember
it's just one of a small mess that strikes me. Anyway,
we'll come back. Hey, some polling coming down. You're really
going to enjoy this from CNN and CNN putting up
some big headlines cautioning Democrats. You're on the dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Wow, it's just that simple. Wow, what a lie and
what a gift to the Trump campaign. I mean, think
about this, this double barrel gift. That just the motivation
not only for Trump's base because he's counting on a
massive turnout, right and that's how he won in sixteen
and big part of why I will win again, but
also getting some other persuadables on the edges. So you
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come out and you label all of Trump's supporters garbage
as the sitting president with your vice president now being
the presidential candidate after you were deposed and you endorsed her. Yeah,
that's not only going to get the Trump base further
revd up, it's going to expand. It's going to expand
it because that truly is clearly how the left views
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half of America. There are a lot of people who
just don't like that, a lot of people beyond normal
Trump supporters. And then coming out and making this extraordinarily sexist,
demeaning comment about the women around Trump. That's going to
help Trump with women beyond the women who currently support them.
It's going to help them beyond further motivating the women
who are ready support them. So what a gift. And
(29:31):
at the same time, they're big attack on Trump now
is that he says he wants to protect women, whether
they like it or not, or whether they want it
or not. Wow, when you are reduced to that, Oh,
this guy says he wants to protect you from from
people here illegally because we left the border open, whether
you want it or not. Yeah, that is not exactly
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the strongest position for Harris to be in. So wow,
it's all so much fun to watch, it's all so encouraging.
But here the CNN headlines I was telling you about
just before break, they just released some new polling, and
before getting into numbers, here are the headlines they put up.
The first headline, CNN poll more voters say Trump brings
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quote change US needs so great to see that's their
poll result, but even better to see they decided to
put that headline up and then their next headline, Corey Booker,
something has really shifted with black men and Trump. Ryan,
Before I go to the phone lines, Why do you
think that their CNN's going out of its way to
put those headlines up.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Why would Corey Booker be saying that. I mean, he's
just trying to give a warning. Kind I think they're
trying to get ahead of it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Storm on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, I think they're trying to get ahead of it. Yeah,
let's go to the phone lines. So we'll start with
Jim and Denver. You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Welcome, Hi Dan, we almost find the stars.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yes, glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, you had all your guests. And I just think
that when Donald Trump persists in this evidence free accusation
that the Democrats stole the last election, and that accusation
resulted in significant violence, and he's still persisting in that
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now and predicting that if he loses this election, it'll
be because the Democrats cheated and stole another one. I
think it's just really reckless rhetoric that increases the likelihood
of violence after the election if he loses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Jim let me ask you this, why do you think
the left went to court to oppose Virginia taking ineligible
voters off of the voting records. Why do you think
they went to court to stop that these are people
not eligible to vote. It's proven they're not eligible to vote.
They've admitted they're not eligible to vote because they're not
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US citizens. Virginia wanted to take them off the records,
and the Biden administration went to court to try to
leave them on the voting roles. Can you blame Donald
Trump or anybody for believing the left is trying to
steal the election when the Biden administration went to court
to leave admittedly illegal voters on the voting roles.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm not prepared to answer that, Dan, I really don't
know the case.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And so Jimmy and I get that you have a
real life. You can't study all these things. All I'm
saying is that there are a lot of people who
truly believe that the Left is going to try to
cheat to win. Why shouldn't they be free to voice that,
particularly when you have examples like the one I just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Well, the counter examples of a free and fair election
so far outweigh the other examples of the Democrats trying
to steal an election that it's just totally unreasonable. I mean,
Bill Barr was angry at Trump when he resigned. He said,
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you got to stop shoveling this bs out the American public.
And Barr had, you know, the biggest investigative force, well
in the world, and Jim, every chance that there was
massive fraud.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And Jim, you know what I've said repeatedly, which is
I have not seen proof that there was enough fraud
to change the outcome of the election. But we're talking
about something different here. We're talking about whether people who
have an honest concern that the election may be stolen
should have the freedom to talk about that. And when
we look at that Virginia example, Jim and Andy McCarthy
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was on the show yesterday talking about this, what other
conclusion can you draw from that other than the Biden
administration wants some people here illegally to vote. What other
conclusion do you draw from that? Fortunately, the US Supreme
Court slapped down the Biden administration and sided with Virginia.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and Dan, I know, I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I understand you. I'm a busy guy. People are busy
with the realizers. But I'd ask you to take a
look at that, Jim, because that's a concern.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And I do agree with you, Dan, I agree with you.
The people have every right and they should question elections
when they have legitimate questions, and we need to do that.
We need to vet the elections. But that election was
vetted more than any election in history.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And Jim, why don't we know? That'll have to be
the final word for today. I do hope you can
come back and talk tomorrow. As I said, I never
saw a proof twenty twenty was stolen, but there are
some legitimate concerns this time around, and I think we
should all speak out for election integrity. Thank you, Ryan,
Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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sound to throw your way. As predicted, the left's heads.
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We've got lefty heads exploding everywhere right now, and it's
just so much fun to watch and talk about. Let's
go to the VIP line talk to Wayne Williams, former
Secretary of State in Colorado, very very highly regarded secretary
of state, respected across party lines. Wayne, Welcome back to
the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Dan, thanks for having me on again.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wayne. What do you make of what I view as
just this monumental failure by the Colorado Secretary of State's office?
Six hundred of these bios passwords, and we'll ask you
in more detail what those are and what they can do.
What do you make of those being published? The story
right now? The reporting is online four months before discovered,
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and then that Jenna Griswold allegedly didn't tell the county
clerks for five days after it was discovered.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
So everyone who's ever had an employee knows, and everyone
who's ever been a person knows that mistakes are sometimes made.
And this was I believe in inadvertent disclosure. But when
the Secretary became aware of it, she did not take
appropriate action. She should have immediately notified the county clerks
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and should have immediately begun the process of inspecting the machines.
That finally a week later is what was announced today,
and that's something that there was no reason to wait
for the week. It causes one to question whether that
waiting only occurred in the hopes that no one would notice,
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and whether that was actually triggered when someone else brought
that forward. I will note that at least one of
the people who brought the issue forward, according to the affidavit,
knew about it months ahead of time and didn't say
anything either.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I thought that wasn't that person wasn't part of the
secretary of State's office.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Right, they weren't. But the Secretary of States should be
encouraging people to come forward when they see something. So
if you see something as you go into a polling
place that's not right, tell the election judges. Then tell
the county clerk. Then don't wait for yea.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But this isn't the fault of the person who discovered
it didn't come forward, right, I mean, what possible reason
could there be for the Secretary of State, once this
is discovered, to not notify the clerks. And the allegation
is that she sat on it until it was publicly reported, and.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
She did because I've talked to enough clerks to know
that they were not told. And that's where the fact
that an error occurred is bad. The fact that nothing
was done to address that error, that people were not informed,
that the steps necessary, such as suspecting the machines were
not being taken, that lies squarely at the top, and
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that's where the real issue is here, because when you
become aware of an issue, particularly one that affects the
conduct of an election that is underway, you need to
take action to address that immediately. We believe that the
clerks are trusted election partners. That's who we have repeatedly
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said we should be trusting. We have as a people
in Colorado, and each end of our individual counties elected
someone to be that clerk. That clerk is charged with
running the election and not tell the clerk, there is
an issue with your machine. We inadvertently disclosed a password
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that could be used. Is I believe inexcusable. I will
note right that the password by itself can't do anything
unless you actually have physical access to the machine. But
if you have that physical access, there are a number
of things that can be done with that password. The
bios you asked about that in the passing at the
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beginning is the route password to make changes in the computer.
You could change where it boots up from. You could
have it boot up from a thumb drive. You could
install and activate a wireless device. Any of those could
be done with that route password. And that's why it's
so critical that every one of those machines that had
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a password disclosed is inspected. I am glad the governor
has stepped forward.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I am sure if you asked a week ago, he
would have done it then. But that request didn't take
place a week ago, and it should have.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, should it have taken a request? What's that should
have taking a request to the governor once his story broke,
shouldn't he, as governor have taken the lead and said,
wait a second, I'm getting to the bottom of this.
I want a special prosecutor. I want everything done immediately
to go out there and make sure this whole process
is safe and secure. But why are we just hearing
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from them now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know, I'm looking at it from the Secretary of
State standpoint, which is the Secretary State should have made
that request if you don't have the resources to do
it yourself until you know, I would say, as a
former Secretary of State, I don't know. The governor always knows,
my business doesn't, but certainly that offer is something that
could have been made when it broke a couple of
(05:38):
days ago, And I don't know if it was or wasn't,
But what I do know is that if you don't
have the resources to do it yourself, then you need
to see those resources. And there is a history at
state government of working when together when the Department of
Transportation had got hit with a ransomware my it people
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went in to help, even though the Secretary of State's
job is not helped DOT deal with ransomware. But in
this case, you've got a situation where the clerks weren't
told the trusted election partners who actually have the machines
that the public wasn't told and you know the statement
(06:21):
of you know, we're going to call it a partial
password release is not accurate. It was the complete password.
It is all one needs to access and change the
bios to a machine if you have that physical access. Now,
I do want to emphasize a couple things Dan, that
we've got under some standards that I adopted the Secretary
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of State. We now have paper ballots, and Colorado did
not have paper ballots and all the jurisdictions when I
became secretary. It's one of the new standards I adopted.
So you do have an actual paper ballot to refer.
You do have a risk limiting audit that we established
when I was secretary, where we forensically exist and the
actual ballots and make sure the machine was accurate. I
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would say we ought to examine more of those ballots
this time. I would if I were Secretary, I would
be picking a closer race, which is what triggers the
number of ballots reviewed in each county, because I think
this cast a cloud that we need to be able
to rebut and we do that by examining more ballots
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forensically and making sure that the election was indeed counted. Accurately.
But that first step, right is going back here, changing
the password and making sure nothing changed in the bias.
If something was changed in the bias, if there's an
alteration in the log then you need to completely take
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that machine out of service, reinstall everything, do a new
logic and accuracy test, and rescan anything that went through
that machine. And that is that's a step that has
to be taken. You can't take that stuff until you
know whether anything did occur. And that's why that inspection
should have been taking place last.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Week, not this week, right, And before I get to
next step, questions on Okay, let's say in one of
these machines, hypothetically a change is found. Wouldn't that require
shutting everything down? But before I get to that wing,
going back to the apparent decision of Griswold, at least
the reporting not to tell the clerks at that point,
doesn't that clearly mean that she was putting her own
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political interest ahead of election security and integrity?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That specter is there. I want to focus right now
and making sure this election is run properly, and that's
what the focus of my concern is between now and
when this election is finished. In at the vote of
the electoral college. So that's where I think.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
The focus needs to be. Let me ask you this
on that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Certainly, certainly I have not heard a logical explanation yet
for why that decision was made. I think I just
offered one, and I've heard no rebuttal, no rebuttal explanation.
Let me let me refrain that, right, and so you
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know there may be I haven't heard it. At which
she was asked by Kyle Clark, would you did you
plan to tell the public ever? Did you plan to
tell the clerks? There was no answer, and that's troubling
because part of the issue, the way you increase confidence
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and elections, and I've talked to this and lots of
times is transparency. That's why we have bipartisan judges. It's
why when I built the counting room for Opasa County,
I put the largest windows in it. The fire Marshall
would let me put in, we should be transparent in
what is happening. And that's not what occurred here, and
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that's what the issue is, right, and.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's why you were respected across party lines, and many
secretary of States from both parties were because that's what
this state needs, and she's the polar opposite of that.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And as I said, I have heard no logical explanation
for the action. And why, right, why would you not
tell the county clerk who has a machine that's potentially
well has had the password posted on this In the.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
End, my constitutionally protected opinion, this proves Griswold does not
care about election integrity in Colorado. She cares about herself
and her politics. That's the only reason not to tell
the clerks, because I'll tell you this one. I don't
think there's anybody in this state who has any doubt
about even one of the clerks. So the only conceivable
reason not to tell the clerks is Griswold doesn't really
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care about election integrity.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, and it wasn't just one of the clerks that
she didn't tell. She didn't tell. As far as I know,
I'm not aware of her telling any.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Of any of them any And I've been.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
In contact with some of the leadership of the Colorado
County Clerks Association. Uh, you know the Alpacicantic clerk who
found out about it, well via you know us US.
You know, when the based on the letters sent by
the Colorado Republican Party. That's never how you should find
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out as an election official that there's a problem, and
that that is the part which is not a decision,
not a screw up by a staffer, that's a decision
made at the top.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Well, I sure appreciate it. You've been fantastic to come on.
I wish you were still in that office, and I
hope we can follow up on this as the story unfolds.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Happy to it would not have happened this way were
I there.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh amen, No, I truly wish we could bring you back.
Thank you, Wayne. You take care. That is Wayne Williams.
And if you're new to the state, Wayne was widely
respected across party lines when he was in that job.
That's the type of person Democrat or Republican, the type
of person we need in that job. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show. Podcast doesn't
even feel like Halloween for some reason. I think there's
just so much focus on this presidential race. But get
home tonight and we'll give away the candy. And for me,
at least, Halloween, it's it's such a cool day because
just growing up as a little kid. You know, well,
I had more than this goal in life. But one
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of my biggest goals in life was to get a
decent job, get a decent paycheck, and be able to
give out full size bars. Because growing up in the neighborhood,
there was one family that gave away full size bars.
And I guarantee you every kid who went to Saint
Mary Star of the Sea with me could tell you
where they lived.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And it's you know, it's just a very cool thing.
So so that's what I do every Halloween. And so
I go home and I'll love it, and it's just
so cool. The kid's eyes light up. It's a full
size bar, and then you can hear them out there
they're getting away full size bars. It's just a cool thing.
So eight five five four zero five eight two five
five and I won't bite anybody. Did you see Ryan
(13:20):
those pictures Biden bit three different kids yesterday? My goodness, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Doesn't surprise me though it's weirdo.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, my goodness. And anyway, a lot of ground to
cover if you just joined us. Wayne Williams joined us earlier,
George Brockler at four h six. As we talk about
one of the biggest scandals I don't, and scandal I
use that term more broadly. We've ever seen in any
elective office in Colorado the Colorado Secretary of State who's
been so self righteous, right, the one who wanted to
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keep Donald Trump off the bellt and the interest of democracy,
to protect democracy, voters shouldn't have a choice, right for
the leading presidential candidate, Supreme Court slaptor down nine zip,
Jenna Griswold, who sent what tens of thousands of mailors
to people not eligible to vote before one election and
now thanks to the Colorado GOP outed on six hundred
(14:11):
very important passwords. Has just heard Wayne Williams describe on
her show former secretary of State you know, published online,
sat out there reportedly for a very long time. And
here's here's even worse. Once it was discovered, according to
the reporting, she didn't tell the county clerks for five
days and only told the county clerks according to the reporting,
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after it became public. And as you just heard me
asking Wayne Williams, is there any explanation for that other
than she just doesn't care about Colorado election integrity. She
cares about herself. She cares about herself politically she cares
about her politics, but to me, that's absolute, concrete proof
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she doesn't care a whit about election integrity. Very ironic
since she's out there campaigning to put other people in jail.
Eight five five for zero five eight two five five
the number. So we'll take your calls. We'll get to
text on that as well. I do have to get
to this sound from Mark Cuban, And you know, the
left is just a gift that keeps on given, and
(15:13):
the Left is so anti woman in so many provable ways,
starting with glorifying the killing of over a half million
females a year in America. But Mark Cuban comes out
and says, Donald Trump, you never see him around strong
intelligent women ever.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
It's just that simple. Obviously one of the dumbest things
ever said in American politics on two different levels, first
just provably false to the extreme and second handing the
political opponent a gift, right, a major gift, since clearly
Donald Trump is around strong intelligent women all the time.
(15:56):
And so again it's hilarious now as we watch the
Harris Cam pain try to back pedal off of that.
But just another gift from the left, maybe maybe a
bigger gift in its own way, Ryan than Biden labeling
us as garbage.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
No, Biden, he is the president and you expect him
to have some role in the campaign. My question is,
why is Mark Cuban, of all people, an advocate, a surrogate,
one of the top ones, it appears for the Kamala
Harris campaign.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well, that's all they could get, right, and he knows that.
He assumes. I believe that there's an awful lot in
it for him if she wins. But yeah, but he
he at that point right now. I don't think he's
intentionally out to sinker, not at all. I think Biden is,
and I think Obama is, and I think Michelle Obama is,
and I think a lot of these others are like Whitmer.
(16:46):
But no, I think he thinks he's trying to help her,
and then he was just exposed in that moment, so
as you know, being willing to say anything, no matter
how false, to try to help her, and then of
course it ends up hurting her as it should.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
This is mindless, though. I'm trying to view this from
Cuban's perspective. He's trying so hard to rip Trump that
he didn't even realize in that moment what he was
really saying about all women who support him must be
weak and dumb.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, no, it's well, that's starting point with the left, right,
His starting point with the left is the truth means
nothing to them. So as the left sits there and
they debate, for example, they're not thinking through, Okay, what's true.
I want to say what's true? They're just thinking there,
I've got to respond to this argument, I've got to
hit back heart, et cetera. And the truth isn't even
a relevant consideration to them. And I think that's how
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this sort of things ends up happening now. The Biden
gift to the Trump campaign, the Biden DeCamp of Harris,
that was Biden saying something false that he believes to
be true. That was Biden speaking the truth as he
sees it. Now. He's wrong, He's completely wrong, It's absolutely false.
(17:58):
The opposite is true. The quality of the typical Trump's
supporter is one hundred times greater than the quality of
Joe Biden. Here on the Dankplas Show.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So was it a ghost this morning, Ryan, I only
asked because it was Halloween, and it's never happened before.
I've never heard of it happening. And I'm backing out
this morning. Every time I hit reverse, that my trunk opens,
you know, because I have an SUV with a hatchback.
Happened over and over again. I don't even think there's
a mechanical explanation for that. No, so is that Halloween
(18:38):
and I've I've had other encounters. You may want to
call him ghost, I would call him spirits or you know,
life that's still out there, but this was the first
one like that. Hey, let's go to the VIP line.
Sh'll of the answer. That's Heidiganol from Rocky Mountain Voice,
who's been very, very focused on election integrity issues. Obviously
(18:59):
now across the country there's great attention being paid to
self righteous Jenna Griswold, the gold Standards, self described gold standard,
Jenna wund six hundred bios passwords being put online and
according to the reporting, even after she found out, she
didn't tell the county clerks until the story went public.
So and not much concern there for election integrity on
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the part of Jenna Heidi, what do you make of that?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Well, Dan, I would suggest she could probably blame it
on ghosts in the machine, but that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's not the cave.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
This is really serious. And I don't know if you
saw the letter that Scott Gessler wrote for the Trump campaign,
but there's some demands on how to fix this ahead
of the election. We'll see if she meets them. She
was supposed to meet him by ten am this morning.
I have a call into Scott to see if that happened.
But this isn't the only problem right now. I have
a whole list. I just put out an article earlier
(19:54):
today on Rocky Mountain Boys with a compilation the best
hit of all of Jenna's mishaps as Secretary of State,
just that we've discovered or dug into in the last
couple of months. And it's bad. And I can go
through the list, I'm happy to, but most of it
will sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, we only have a two hour show.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
I know.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
It's like the remote access in our voting system that
she said didn't exist. It's the passwords that she waked.
Of course, it's the fraudulent ballots that were allowed through
in Mason County, three of which went through the system.
They don't know what if the vote is three points away,
three votes away, what are they going to do? And
then there's the ballot scanners and three counties that aren't working.
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There's voters that are registered in multiple states like Kansas
and New Mexico, and the voter rolls are questionable, and
there's a lawsuit going on around that. So the list goes.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
On and on. Yeah, and Heidi, how do we get
to the bottom of it? That's something when Williams and I,
George Brockler and I were talking about, I mean, there
obviously has to be a special prosecutor. My gut tells
me that there probably wasn't a crime commits, but we
can't know that without a special prosecutor, somebody truly independent,
without forensic experts at his or her disposal. Yet the
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governor's not stepping up to say that. Phil Wiser isn't
stepping up to say that. So are they really just
going to sweep this one under the rug.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
That's going to be pretty tough with all the national
attention on this, especially Laura Trump just tweeted out too
that she's aware of what's going on. Here's the thing
that we discovered through all of this stuff with the
post office, with the machines, with the dropboxes. There are
no outside auditors that come out, like independent forensic auditors
to come in and look at our systems and processes
(21:42):
and say, hey, this works pretty well. The signature of
verification process. You know, there's only zero point five percent
failure rate. That's an example of all the different ways
that we need to look at the various processes, the
voting machines. We have to have external certified forensic experts
that base their work on industry audit standards come in
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and look at every aspect of this, not just one aspect,
but all of it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And what kind of fixes because Scott obviously knows what
he's talking about, Scott Gessler, what kind of fixes do
we need to see? Now?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
You know, I don't have the letter right in front
of me, but I believe it was, of course that
they need to change the passwords and change them in
a way that meets expectations by forensic experts, not just hey,
we're just going to go in and change it to
my dog's name and you know the.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Year of my verse.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Yeah, kind of kidding, kind of not, but they've got
to do it right, and they put together a list.
It's on my Twitter feed at Heidi Ganal if you
want to check it out the letters, and I can
pull it up before the next break if you want
to keep me on.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
But well, I mean you're welcome to stay on, but yeah, no,
need to check it out because I guess part of it,
Heidi is I'm sitting here believing the Left is going
to make her walk the plank very soon, that she
is too much of a liability, my personal suspicion, and
that's all it is is this story. This story was
run to get rid of her before the governor's race.
(23:05):
But they will make her walk the plank, And so
what happens then.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Dan I actually said the same thing on Twitter last night.
We think a lot of like I was, like, I
think Kyle Clark is exercising journalism because he's helping Polish
get Jenna Griswold out of the way, and they're taking
this opportunity to clear the way for Phil Wiser.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, right, I mean for all these guys on the left.
But I underline guys, because don't the Democrats have a
big problem here because they're so self righteous about we're
holier than now, we're diversity, equity, inclusion, and then all
the top jobs go to boring old white guys or
boring young white guys. Right, So they don't want Jenna.
They don't want Jenna hanging around saying hey what about me?
(23:48):
What about women?
Speaker 6 (23:51):
You're right, I think it's going to be the governor's race.
I think is going to come down to Mike Johnson
and his money with the LinkedIn founder and Mike Bloomberg
backing him, and then Jonah Goose. Possibly if we keep
the House of Republicans, Republicans win the House, I think
the Goose runs for governor. I think if we don't,
then he runs for Speaker. And then of course Phil Wiser,
(24:13):
who's I think pull US's favorite. So I think it's
going to come down to those three, and they just
don't need the mess of dealing with a woman. You
know that they've got to play their DEI card and
keep in the race because they have to have their
token woman.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
In the race.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, Heidi canal our guests. This is going to be
amazing to watch because obviously the governor's race starts openly
in a week, well, probably a week from yesterday. Wow. Well, Heidi,
just so great to have you on. And you've been
so diligent about reporting on these issues, way beyond the
password issue. But the password issue is obviously so monumental
(24:48):
and to me, and this is why I don't think
that the Left will let her survive in office. The
decision not to tell the clerks, because I have not
heard one human express one shred of concern about any
county clerk in Colorado. So for Griswold to decide she's
not going to tell the clerks that, oh, by the way,
those bios passwords to those machines you have, they've been
(25:10):
compromised to not tell them. The only possible explanation in
my mind is is that she was putting her own
political interest ahead of election security.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I would suggest you're correct, And.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I want to hear from Tina Peters on this. Can
you get me an interview?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Oh my gosh, I can try. If so, you can
call you from county jail.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'll go there and we'll tape it. But
I want to hear from her on this. And Tina
and I have obviously had our disagreements, but I think
she needs to be heard on this as well.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
And I also encourage people to talk to their county commissioners.
I think people underestimate how much power the county commissioners have.
They hire and fire and manage the county attorneys. And
when we tried to do this recount right after my election,
it was the county attorney in Douglas County that put
the kabash on it for the instructions from the county
clerk that they work together. And so your county commissioners
(26:08):
have a lot of power to affect these issues. So
talk to them, talk to the clerk's office, ask the
right questions. I've put some good questions in this article
that I just put out, like does our do our
voting machines have remote access? And if so, don't tell
me they're just turned off. Have you had a forensic
expert come in and say that they're absolutely full proof
(26:29):
that no one can get into those machines? And how
about those invoices from the post office? Why don't they match?
Where are all those undeliverable ballots? And how about your
drop boxes? Can we see the footage? Can we watch
and make sure that no one's doing anything that far
you and is the footage high quality enough to prosecute
if the case is.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
That, well, you know that great movie line. You know,
being on the left means never having to say you're sorry, right,
Oh jeez? Yeah, Hey, what kind of candy are you
giving away?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I mean I love traditional candy, like candy corn and
you know, just old school halloween candy that.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
We used to get.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah, but I think my husband just went to Costco
and bought eight big bags because our neighborhood's like crazy
for Halloween. But I have three different kids that are
trigger treating, so of course they're all going to three
different neighborhoods.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, well that's the fun of it. Enjoy every minute
of it. Thank you, Heidi.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Thanks Dan, have a great night you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
It's just it's funny how the human mind works. Right,
For some reason, my mind just flashed to I've been
out with the kids trick or treating. Amy was at
home given candy away at the door, and this group
of like high school boys is walking away from our
front porch, describing my wife as I don't think I
(27:50):
can use that term on air. Fine, fine, yes, and
going into more detail, but and I just just remember
it's just one of a small mess that strikes me. Anyway,
we'll come back. Hey, some polling coming down. You're really
going to enjoy this from CNN and CNN putting up
some big headlines cautioning Democrats. You're on the dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Donald Trump, you never see him around strong intelligent women ever.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Wow, it's just that simple. Wow, what a lie and
what a gift to the Trump campaign. I mean, think
about this, this double barrel gift. That just the motivation
not only for Trump's base because he's counting on a
massive turnout, right and that's how he won in sixteen
and big part of why I will win again, but
also getting some other persuadables on the edges. So you
(28:46):
come out and you label all of Trump's supporters garbage
as the sitting president with your vice president now being
the presidential candidate after you were deposed and you endorsed her. Yeah,
that's not only going to get the Trump base further
revd up, it's going to expand. It's going to expand
it because that truly is clearly how the left views
(29:08):
half of America. There are a lot of people who
just don't like that, a lot of people beyond normal
Trump supporters. And then coming out and making this extraordinarily sexist,
demeaning comment about the women around Trump. That's going to
help Trump with women beyond the women who currently support them.
It's going to help them beyond further motivating the women
who are ready support them. So what a gift. And
(29:31):
at the same time, they're big attack on Trump now
is that he says he wants to protect women, whether
they like it or not, or whether they want it
or not. Wow, when you are reduced to that, Oh,
this guy says he wants to protect you from from
people here illegally because we left the border open, whether
you want it or not. Yeah, that is not exactly
(29:51):
the strongest position for Harris to be in. So wow,
it's all so much fun to watch, it's all so encouraging.
But here the CNN headlines I was telling you about
just before break, they just released some new polling, and
before getting into numbers, here are the headlines they put up.
The first headline, CNN poll more voters say Trump brings
(30:13):
quote change US needs so great to see that's their
poll result, but even better to see they decided to
put that headline up and then their next headline, Corey Booker,
something has really shifted with black men and Trump. Ryan,
Before I go to the phone lines, Why do you
think that their CNN's going out of its way to
put those headlines up.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Why would Corey Booker be saying that. I mean, he's
just trying to give a warning. Kind I think they're
trying to get ahead of it.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Storm on the horizon.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, I think they're trying to get ahead of it. Yeah,
let's go to the phone lines. So we'll start with
Jim and Denver. You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Welcome, Hi Dan, we almost find the stars.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yes, glad you're back.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, you had all your guests. And I just think
that when Donald Trump persists in this evidence free accusation
that the Democrats stole the last election, and that accusation
resulted in significant violence, and he's still persisting in that
(31:12):
now and predicting that if he loses this election, it'll
be because the Democrats cheated and stole another one. I
think it's just really reckless rhetoric that increases the likelihood
of violence after the election if he loses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Jim let me ask you this, why do you think
the left went to court to oppose Virginia taking ineligible
voters off of the voting records. Why do you think
they went to court to stop that these are people
not eligible to vote. It's proven they're not eligible to vote.
They've admitted they're not eligible to vote because they're not
(31:51):
US citizens. Virginia wanted to take them off the records,
and the Biden administration went to court to try to
leave them on the voting roles. Can you blame Donald
Trump or anybody for believing the left is trying to
steal the election when the Biden administration went to court
to leave admittedly illegal voters on the voting roles.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
I'm not prepared to answer that, Dan, I really don't
know the case.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
And so Jimmy and I get that you have a
real life. You can't study all these things. All I'm
saying is that there are a lot of people who
truly believe that the Left is going to try to
cheat to win. Why shouldn't they be free to voice that,
particularly when you have examples like the one I just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Well, the counter examples of a free and fair election
so far outweigh the other examples of the Democrats trying
to steal an election that it's just totally unreasonable. I mean,
Bill Barr was angry at Trump when he resigned. He said,
(32:59):
you got to stop shoveling this bs out the American public.
And Barr had, you know, the biggest investigative force, well
in the world, and Jim, every chance that there was
massive fraud.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And Jim, you know what I've said repeatedly, which is
I have not seen proof that there was enough fraud
to change the outcome of the election. But we're talking
about something different here. We're talking about whether people who
have an honest concern that the election may be stolen
should have the freedom to talk about that. And when
we look at that Virginia example, Jim and Andy McCarthy
(33:34):
was on the show yesterday talking about this, what other
conclusion can you draw from that other than the Biden
administration wants some people here illegally to vote. What other
conclusion do you draw from that? Fortunately, the US Supreme
Court slapped down the Biden administration and sided with Virginia.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and Dan, I know, I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I understand you. I'm a busy guy. People are busy
with the realizers. But I'd ask you to take a
look at that, Jim, because that's a concern.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And I do agree with you, Dan, I agree with you.
The people have every right and they should question elections
when they have legitimate questions, and we need to do that.
We need to vet the elections. But that election was
vetted more than any election in history.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
And Jim, why don't we know? That'll have to be
the final word for today. I do hope you can
come back and talk tomorrow. As I said, I never
saw a proof twenty twenty was stolen, but there are
some legitimate concerns this time around, and I think we
should all speak out for election integrity. Thank you, Ryan,
Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow
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