April 10, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan discusses Jared Polis' decision to sign Colorado's latest gun-ban bill into law. To discect the topic, Dan is joined by Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams and 2A advocate Alicia Garcia.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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fight hard for the American Way because the Colorado Democrats
they don't have any respect for it, or not much anyway,
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on full display today, we are told we're waiting for
confirmation a somewhat secret signing in the Governor's office, probably
just moments ago. Again, it appears to be so secretive.
We're just waiting to be able to pin all this down.
But apparently as Senate Bill three, which I think will
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well face very serious constitutional challenge quite quickly. Senate Bill three,
you know, that's the one that says, hey, you got
to go out and you got to get this training,
and you got to pay for this license, etc. To
be able to exercise your Second Amendment right with certain
types of firearms in Colorado. That apparently being signed behind
closed doors by the governor. Now again we've been unable
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to confirm that the specific nature of this signing, but
we're working on that, right now. Now, if no, you're
going to see pictures, right, because I'm sure there are
some people allowed in there and they'll have the smiley
kind of pictures with this thing. But if it's true
that this was done behind closed doors and out in
a typical kind of way, particularly for a quote big bill,
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meaning a bill of major impact, most bills that violate
the Constitution aren't considered to be bills of major impact,
that would tell you something, right, because if this thing
really is being done behind closed doors, well just tells
you the governor can't be very very proud of it, right,
So why is he signing it? Three or three? Someone?
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Three eight, two five five the number. We plan to
have a number of guests on that as we confirm
what we are told is happening right now. Now tying
into that because it's local and they're all lefties, and
some of them pretend to be moderate because they think
that's what they need to win statewide, and they're probably right,
so they try to pull off this kind of being moderates.
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And in that category is Michael Bennett, who is going
to announce tomorrow if he hasn't already, that he's running
for governor in the great state of Colorado. Who want
to get your react on that, since it is apparently
official or about to be. I find this part absolutely fascinating.
This is going to be so much fun to watch.
The glowing Denver Post article on Bennett's entry into the
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race talks about how this entry could help clear the
field of other major potential Democratic candidates. Now this tells
me that Joanah Goose is probably not getting in the
race because he would dust Michael Bennett. I think in
a Democrat primary, I don't think Bennett gets in unless
he's had assurances that no, Goose will not can.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I didn't interject one moment Dan on that front. Let
me run this bias, see what you think. Yes, So
Bennett declares his candidacy for governor tomorrow. He strikes a
deal with Joe Nogose, telling him if you don't run,
I'll appoint you to my former Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah. No, it makes perfect sense. Right. But here's here's
the issue, my good friend. Unclear at this point is
whether Michael Bennett is going to give up his Well,
wait a second, let's do the math. Bennett is up
in twenty eight right, Okay, so your math works kicking
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Loopers up in twenty six, Bennett's up in twenty eight.
So you're right, Bennett gets elected in twenty six, and
then under your theory, the payoff to No Goose in
terms of an appointment to the last two years of
the seat. Correct, good thinking, good thinking. Yeah, but no
way Bennett's getting in right now unless he's been assured
No Goose is not. But I think the real fun
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part is going to be this battle between Wiser and Bennett, Right,
I mean two guys who are I think, woefully out
of touch with your typical Colorado and far far, far,
far far far left of them pretending to be moderate.
And here's exhibit A. Wiser has now branded himself quote
the People's lawyer, right, says Attorney General Colorado. I wonder
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how much you paid a consultant for that, So those
I that's kind of cute. Now, well, you know that
is so true, right in this sense, And there are
people out there who do that, who really are the
people's lawyer. And they can fall into all sorts of
different categories that can be Democrats or Republicans or unaffiliateds,
but they're not Phil Wiser, right, Okay, So I mean
a guy like me, and it's been a privilege, you know,
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last forty years. Yeah, I'm representing real people from all
walks of life. These are real people. I'm not representing corporations.
I'm representing It can be anybody from a homeless person,
a CEO, teacher, professional athlete. I've represented them all for
forty years. The common denominator is they're good people with
the righteous case. Now, Phil Wiser, what is he out
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there doing? Hey, he's up. They're abusing the power he's
been given, not in an illegal sense, but abusing the
power he's been given to go out and pursue all
these far left fringe causes. That ain't the people's lawyer, right,
that's the far left wackos lawyer. But now he's billing
himself as the people's lawyer against Michael Bennett. So this
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is going to be rich, right, This is got literally rich.
Here here's a quote from Wiser. I am the fighter
Colorado needs as our next governor, Wiser said in a
statement two years ago, the voter sent Senator Bennett back
to d C because we believed he would be there
for us no matter what, especially in historically dangerous moments
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like the one we currently face now more than ever,
we need experience democratic leaders in Washington. So he's taking
his little pop at Bennett there, right, But you know,
the knives are to get sharpened here as this thing continues,
unless Wiser just gets steamrolled. Right. So this is going
to be fun to watch, and I think any skilled
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GOP nominee for governor will have a lot of fun
with Phil Wiser's self branding as quote the People's lawyer
three or three someone three eight, two five five the
number the people's lawyers. Certainly willing wouldn't be willing to
infringe on the people's Second Amendment rights the way that
Phil Wiser is. But then again he infringes so many
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different rights. Well, well, follow this in more detail tomorrow
when Bennett makes it official. But that tells you a
lot about the state of the Democratic Party in Colorado,
doesn't it, And just the the utter dishonesty. People call
it hypocrisy, but that's too gentle, right, It's this con game.
It's this bade and switch where where they pretend to
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be so woke, can they They tell voters of color
you know we're for you, they're racist over there, And
then who gets all the top jobs. Right, Well, let's
think about kid. No, no, And I'm not being fair,
right because we've had so many people of color be
the Democrat, a governor in Colorado, the Democrat senator. Let's
just go through the list, right, I mean, John Hickenlooper,
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he is the model of diversity, isn't he. You cannot
get any more diverse than John Hickenlooper or you know,
Roy Romer before him, Bill Ritter certainly epitome of diversity.
And come on now, Jared Polis, he is mister diversity, right,
And then yeah, who would we have had? Oh? Yeah,
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a woman Carrie Kennedy, Right, she was going to be
and she was going to win. She was going to
be the first female governor of Colorado. And Jared poulis
just steamroller with his cash.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But now we have the battle of the DEI Titans,
the diversity titans here Michael Bennett and Phil Wiser, Right,
I mean, I could you get too more diverse candidates
squaring off? Now? At a certain point, you know, if
you're someone of color who's been habitually voting for the
Democratic Party and they've been telling you all this stuff
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about how they care so much. At some point, don't
you have to say, well, wait a second, I mean,
where are your candidates of color? Where are your female candidates?
How come all these top jobs except for Secretary of State?
How come but governor, US Senate, Attorney General? How come
all of those go to the old white guys? Right,
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very revealing, So be interesting to see how they address that.
My friend, So we're lining up guests on Senate built
three that this build that in such a weird way
infringes on Second Amendment rights. I believe in a way
that's going to be struck down as unconstitutional. But we'll
find that out together, and we'll find out shortly whether
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it's true. Ryan, you have reliable sources. I'm just seeing
some stuff online, et cetera that Poulis is just sign
this in a non public ceremony. Again, have not been
able to confirm either. Well, it's your take.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Here is the confirmation.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Dan Rob Dawson our KOA newsroom reporting that Meg Frolitch,
who's one of the co sponsors of the bill, was
in the Governor's office as he was signing it, kind
of behind closed doors. I don't see a lot of
fanfare along with this but we'll see some of that
residual media coverage coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, Rob says it, it's true. We know that much, right,
So hey, we'll come back, we'll dive into that. We'll
have the latest done. Obviously, this ongoing effort of President
Trump to level the playing field and to do this
reset around the world with tariffs and so much more.
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Speaker 4 (09:53):
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Speaker 1 (09:56):
Talking about Senate Bill three. It's confirmed now that this
really bizarre infringement on Second Amendment rights has now been
signed by PAULUS apparently about an hour ago, and no
no big public ceremony from what we can tell so far,
but we're waiting to confirm all of those details. And obviously,
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you know, Paul has kind of left Colorado behind in
his mind a long time ago. He's just trying to
navigate things now so he can have some hope in
a presidential race, and he knows that that signing a
bill like this is really going to make it a
lot tougher to get into the lane. He wants to
get in right, which is as some kind of moderate
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nationally Yeah, infringing on Second Amendment rights not a great
entry ramp into that lane. So he crafted this bizarre
quote compromise where Okay, now they can infringe on your
Second Amendment right for semi auto rifles, for some pistols
that have you know, that are gas fed to a
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certain ex things like that. I mean, they're infringing on
your right by requiring a different kind of background check,
requiring this training, etc. So this is the so called
compromise that polists forged, And obviously it doesn't make any
sense at all, right, because first, you shouldn't be infringing
on Second Amendment rights, and I don't think this thing's
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going to stand up constitutionally. But then the second thing is,
wait a second. I thought the point of any law right,
but the point of these laws, allegedly is public safety.
And so you have to come back to this question.
If you're going to claim a right to infringe on
a fundamental right to a Second Amendment right, what is
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the compelling state interest? What is this supposed to accomplish?
And can any honest person in the world look you
in the eye and say this bill is somehow going
to thwart a determined mass killer. Nobody could do that, right.
I mean it comes back to this profound truth that
the Left can never get around, which is that somebody
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willing to kill another person, somebody willing to violate the
most important law in our society, the law against murder,
is not going to care about your gun law. Is
there any effective counter argument to that? Can anybody even
begin to make a case for why somebody who is
willing to murder would then be deterred by a gun law. No,
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it's nonsense. So then the argument becomes old. But they
won't be able to get them. Well, same thing, if
somebody is willing to go out and murder, well, somebody
is going to be willing to violate the law to
go get their guns. I mean, the whole thing is
absolutely ridiculous, particularly when you look at it against the
backdrop of what the Left is not willing to do
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to protect the innocent, starting with children, right, which is
a sacred obligation, a sacred trust. The left is not
willing to do what the left actively opposes, really concrete
steps that would save the innocent. The left opposes why,
because to save the innocent, you would have to have
good guys and gals with guns. And because the left's
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true mission is to undermine the Second Amendment. If they
can't do away with it on paper, then to just
undermine the right, because that's their true mission, and their
anti gun ideology is more important to them than the
lives of innocent children. They stand there and they oppose,
they oppose most of them, you know, armed guards in schools,
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you know, properly heavily trained and qualified teachers, being allowed
to have a concealed weapon in schools, etc. No, truly,
their anti gun ideology is more important than the lives
of innocent children. And they play Russian roulette right when
they oppose these measures that would actually help give kids
a fighting chance and staff. When the next monsters show
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up at a Colorado school, you know, they're playing Russian
roulette with the lives of all of those kids and
all of those teachers. But that doesn't bother Left for
a second. So anyway, we'll get deeper into this Senate
built three nonsense, which is now apparently signed by Polis
and Law in Colorado. Ryan, we should have a little
pool here. I'm sure we have some kind of prize
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to give away. We should have a little pool. How quickly,
how quickly will this be in court? How quickly will
this be in court? Because remember you have had you
have had liberty groups be very, very very successful. I mean,
nobody wins every case, but they've been winning a ton
of cases. Rocky Mount gun owners is I think of,
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on a ton of cases and have won them early,
you know, in the injunction phase. So how quickly will
this end up in court? So hey, happy, We're going
to have Sheriff Steve Riems with us at thirty six
the Great Wealth kind of sheriff get his take on
this as well. So if somebody wants to argue in
favor of this bill, I would love to have the conversation.
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Love to have the conversation because again I would love
to get into the heads of the people on the
left who are pushing all of this, because they must
know it's not going to stop a single mass shooter,
and yet at the same time they oppose the things
that really would protect the innocent. It's crazy stuff, crazy
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and dangerous stuff. By the way, I do want to
talk to you at some point today about space command. Right,
we have a Republican Congressional delegation in Colorado taking the
initiative to appeal to President Trump, as they should, to
keep Space Command in Colorado, Alabama pushing hard for it.
I think the starting point is the obvious one, right,
Space Command should be in Colorado. That is best for
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our national security, and it should remain here. Vision like
this should not be politicized. But we know there is
a very very real danger that President Trump will move it.
And so what's fascinating to me is, given the importance
of Space Command to Colorado, why have so many high
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level Colorado Democrats gone out of their way to antagonize
President Trump, who, by the way, gets to make the
decision as to whether Space Command remains in Colorado. So
all it tells you is they don't really care about that.
These democrats who tell you they care so much about it,
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yet at the same time go out of their way
to gratuitous, gratuitously and bizarrely and in the most extreme
ways attack President Trump. Are going to cry these crocodile
tears for Space Command. Well, let's hope it doesn't leave
to begin with, and it would be a mistake. You know,
President Trump, great president, but it would be a mistake
if he sends it to Alabama, buddy. And if you're
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the state where you've got now the candidate for Attorney
Jenner General Jenna Griswold out there trying to get Trump
off the ballot. You've got all these big time lefties
in all these high offices calling Trump the worst possible things.
How do they think that's going to help keep Space
Command in Colorado? Yeah, I'd love to have that conversation
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with them, but I don't think they're interested in that
because they don't have a good answer. Three or three
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Raimes coming up next. We'll talk about police signing Senate
Bill three. This pretty significant restriction on Second Amendment rights.
And even if it wasn't as big a restriction and
infringement as this is, any infringement is big, right because
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it's a fundamental right. You're just not allowed to do
that unless you have a very compelling reason to do so.
So we'll have that conversation with Sheriff Rames after the break.
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Speaker 4 (18:18):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
The sheriff from Welled County, Colorado, to talk about Senate
Bill three, which apparently has now been signed by the
governor and his law in Colorado. I expect it will
be in court very very quickly and be tested there. Sheriff,
thank you for being here, love to get your take.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Thanks for having me on, Dan, And I would think
I wasn't under these circumstances. Yeah, not a good day
for Colorado. It's certainly not a good day for Second
Amendment advocates, and it's a hell of a bad day
for sheriffs across the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah. And Jeriff, would you elaborate on that as well, because,
as I understand Senate Bill three, it also includes and
involvement on the part of sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, because the bill sponsors of this bill were trying
to you know, cook the books behind the scenes. I'm
choosing my words wisely here. You know, they were trying
to push this whole thing to a way in which
the Colorado Parks and Wildlife guys would basically oversee this
and we we as sheriff, well, that's that's a terrible idea.
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We just the bill needs to go away. So instead
they leverage the sheriff in the middle of this bill
and said, okay, well it'll be the sheriff that will
that will issue these permits so that people can go
out and buy guns that they should be able to
buy anyway. So they're basically trying to put sheriffs, you know,
in the middle of this so that our constituents will
see us as the enemy if they're not educated as
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to what this bill is all about. And obviously, you know,
any sheriff that says, well I'm just going to oppose
the bill, I won't do it, well, then you know,
the sheriff is the person that's going to be standing
in the way of someone ex exercising their gun rights.
And right obviously none of us want to do that.
So yeah, it puts uh, you know, it puts the
sheriffs in a really awkward situation where we're having to
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it's an unfunded mandate where we're having to issue a
permit to a person that quite honestly, we don't think
we should be involved in, and we think people should
be able to go out and exercise their second Amendment rights.
I don't think there was a sheriff in the state
of Colorado that supported this crappy legislation, and yet here
we are and for the for the governor to sign this,
you know, in darkness, so to speak, you know, without
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any fan there. It tells you how proud of you
is to this bill. Yeah, I just I think it's cowardly.
I think it's I'll seize my words again.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sure, Iff Steve Reams always a straight sugar sheriff. Do
you think this was part of the motive behind this
bill was to put sheriffs in this difficult position, undermine sheriffs,
undermine confidence in sheriffs. I mean, with the radical left
controlling the Democratic Party in Colorado, I don't think any
of that is beyond the realm of possibility, if not likelihood.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think that's absolutely the case. You know, the sheriffs
are down there at the state capitol. Myself included pushing
back on a lot of different radical bills at the
left to have run over the years. You know, I
was obviously a staunch opponent of red flag law, as
I still am, and I think they just got tired
of it, so they're trying to figure out. Okay, well,
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how can we silence the sheriffs. Well, this isn't going
to work. You know, we're still going to stand for
our constituents. We're still going to let our constituents know
who passed this bad legislation and will lay it at
the feet of the people that are responsible. In the meantime,
this bill doesn't go into effect until I think it's
August first of twenty twenty six, and don't quote me
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on that date, but you know, the Democrats will be
the best gun salesman in the state of Colorado than
anyone's ever seen. There'll be a run on every gun
that they've banned between now and August two thousand and
six and are twenty twenty six, And you know that's
that's what, That's what Colorado. What should do? Go out
and buy them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What a great point that you make. And let's talk
about the type of firearms that are affected here. How
would you best summarize it? I know that actually reading
through the bill, which I've done multiple times, is mind
numbing for anyone, but but how would you summarize the
firearms affected?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Basically? The way I I've told constituent constituents. Is it's
anything that's that's quote unquote black and scary as far
as you know when they're when they're talking about one
of the assault rifles, Yeah, yeah, it's AR fifteen. Are
are something that that it's similar to an AR fifteen,
That's what they're going after. A detactable magazine, and a
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gas tube that helps in the in the circulation of
the gun. Long story short, The biggest part of this
bill that's that's troubling though, when you're talking about what
guns does it affect, is there's actually a section in
there that gives the Attorney General the authority to make
determinations about what guns should be on this list into
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the future. Well, when you think about who's announced that
they're going to run for attorney General, you know, if
you weren't worried about Phil Wiser making these decisions, well
then the you know, the possibility of Jennet Griswold being
the gun expert for the state of Colorado. I mean,
I can't think of anything more asinine than that. It's
like we're living in a circus. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know, one thing I'd love your take on because
you know, Sheriff Reems always keeps it real and he
walks the talk, right, I mean, he's out there doing
that dangerous job and he's out on the streets all
the time. Is why do you think the Democrats and
this isn't meant as a shot, I think it's just obvious.
Why do you think they have so little to no
concern about our ability to protect ourselves?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean starting with oh, okay, we can't have more
than fifteen rounds in a I mean, why do they
not have that concern? Or are we just kind of
an acceptable casualty rate?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You know, I've asked myself that many times, many times, Dan,
And the only thing I can think of is they
want to go back to a to a world that
you know, guns never existed in, and you can't you
can't put the you can't you can't go back in
time and change that. It's not going to happen. And
so they have this panacea that if well no guns existed,
that there would be no gun violence. Well, that's that
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ship has sailed, that's long gone. And so then the
idea is, well, then let's just let's let's make guns
scary and if no one, no one wants to go
out and use guns, and maybe sometime in the future
these guns will go away. And I'm giving them all
the you know, all the width in the world to
try to give give space to their argument, but ultimately
they want to go after the one thing that keeps
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government in control and what the Second Amendment was written for.
And that's what I truly believe. And while they don't
have say that, you know, they say it's about safety
and whatnot. If they really thought about safety, if this
was really about safety, they wouldn't be banning guns. They'd
be going out and buying them.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well a great point, and they'd be backing these measures
to try to protect the innocent from bad guys with guns,
you know, such as they stand in the way of
so much that can make our school safer. Sheriff Steve Reims,
our guest and Sheriff, you've made kind of the point
of the week, if not the month, which is I
hadn't even thought of that yet. I'm going to be
one of them too. You know, this is going to
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send a lot of people out to buy these firearms
now because it doesn't become effective to August to twenty six,
because they have to put so much bureaucracy in place
now to be able to facilitate all of this training.
They're requiring issuing of permits, et cetera. So, yeah, I'm
going to be one of those people, you know, heading
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out to get to get these guns. They're going to
be the Yeah they.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Ever been on the fence about owning one of these
particular weapons. I think it's time to get off the
fence and go buy it. You know, two or three
you have some for in the future because the law
is not retroactive. You know, exercise the right way you
have it before you have to pay to use it.
I mean, this is again, it's it's ridiculous. There's not
a criminal out there that's paying any attention to what
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the legislature's doing and saying, well, you know, I guess
I'll have to stop my criminal acts as of August
of twenty twenty six. That's not how this works. But
the law of nighting citizen as of right now should
go out and save themselves some cash, buy now, and
buy by early and by often. No.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is such great advice and sherif frames our guests. Now,
I use the wrong word when I said banned because
it's not technically a ban. It just creates all of
these obstacles and all this expense. But clearly the left
wants to ban these firearms, and as you look down
the road toward the real possibility of a Michael Bennett
or a Phil Wiser as the next governor, et cetera,
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you have to anticipate that possibility as well. Sheriff in
our last minute together, would love your thought on on
whether you've ever heard one of these people who wants
to infringe on two way answer this question, Well, what
makes you believe that somebody who's willing to violate our
laws against murder is going to obey our laws about guns?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
The best answer I've ever heard any of them give is, well,
the less guns that are out there on the street,
the less opportunity there is for someone to get a
hold of them. So they're basically admitting that criminals aren't
going to follow the law, they're going to steal them
from someone who bought them legally, so they just rather
the legal people not have them. You know, that's the
most backwards ideologic ideal that I can ever think of,
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But that's the best argument I've heard them give and
that's a terrible argument.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Boy, it sure is, especially since it all starts so
it's wait a second, we do have that constitutional right.
But Sheriff, you've been heroic in so many different ways
on this and other issues. So thank you for the
time today.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Hey, thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You take care of that is as Sheriff Steve reams,
and we're hoping the sheriff will be hosting this show
coming up. I've got this run of jury trials starting
soon and I think I'm going to have like four
and six weeks and so I'll be on when I'm
not in trial. But then we're trying to get some
other great folks like share Frames to sit in as
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he did a couple of weeks ago. So we're going
to have a great crew as we always do. Three
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show, Podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Three being signed today by Governor Polus. Unfortunately, Sheriff Steve
Reims just joined us. Was fantastic and very informative. As always.
Let's go now to the boomstick Babe. Alicia Garcia, welcome
back to the dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, what's your take on this?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
This is disgusting. Well, you know, I think most of
us in this industry new that he was going to
finn this. I also don't think that we knew that
he was going to do it in such a cowardly
and timid fashion. He did it behind closed door. If
he announced it today, I'm pretty sure that the anti
gun organizations such as every Town who wrote this bill
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and Mom's Demand Action were well aware that he was
going to sign this today, because they were all sitting
around him clamoring once it was signed. And yet I
feel as if you were going to rob Colorado of
its constitutional rights, at least have the audacity to look
us in the face and have a public ceremony when
you do it.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't think that Polus has developed a reputation for
courage right there. I mean, remember, I mean literally he
disappeared when the mob descended upon downtown Denver after the
killing of George Floyd. Literally disappeared for a couple of days.
But Alicia, please tell people what your biggest concerns are
with this build there are so many but what are
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your biggest concerns?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well, this puts Colorado in a very precurious and dangerous
place because we are now number one in the United
States in gun control. We are surpassing California, we are
surpassing every other state that has all of these extra
overreaches from the government. But what this does is it
basically turns Colorado from a shell issue to a may
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issue state. It also makes guns more dangerous. Having guns
with a fixed magazines that are poxied onto the firearm
per the requests of this mandate here, it makes guns
more dangerous. You're not going to be able to clear firearms,
or drop magazines or clear chambers with the fixed magazines.
You're also going to put a lot of small businesses out,
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which are very important to me as my business partner.
In the second cidicate is Spartan Defense in Colorado Springs
shout out to them, but I mean, these are people
that have fought their way to make a way for
people to be able to defend themselves, and now they're
robbing them of that right to exist. And this is
also going to put a lot of people in jeopardy
because they may not be able to afford these these
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laws and these visual requirements in these classes.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, Alicia Garcia, our guest and sheriff frames made a
brilliant point I thought a couple of minutes ago, which is,
wait a second, this thing isn't effective until August of
twenty six for the reasons Alicia just referred to, which is,
you've got to put all this bureaucracy in place right
now that you're going to require all these permits, all
these permits issued by sheriffs, that whole process. So there's
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just going to be a big run on these firearms
between now and then, in including me. I mean, you know,
I wasn't sitting around thinking, boy, you know, I really
need to go out and buy a couple of these
right now until Sheriff mentioned that, and then it's I'm
going to clear some time tomorrow and go get a couple.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Well, I mean, be sure to come down and support
us at Spartan Defense down in Colorado Springs, because wonderful,
that's what we do for you. That's what we do
is we supply the best firearms here in Colorado. You know,
one of the things that I have concerned about this
entire bill is now that we have to wait another
year to be infringed upon. What is going to happen
in the meantime to the other bills that have already
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passed from last year that still have not gone into effect.
How is that going to affect the gun industry right now?
I mean, they pass an excise tax on firearms and
ammunition that went an effect in April. Well, how are
you supposed to tax a item and things that you're
not able to even purchase in the first place. So
it's kind of like they're not even allowing the laws
that they've passed to take place to see how they
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affect or change the political landscape of Colorado and just
keep force speeding more gun control down our throats. And sadly,
this isn't the only bill that's hurting us right now.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is the main one.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But it is literally a death by a thousand cuts
by saying, hey, you know what, we have this awful bill,
but we still have what I think twenty five bills
total this legislative session that have the word firearm in it.
I think it's just it's just a little bit over
the top.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Well, yeah, and then how quickly. Is this one going
to be in court? I have to imagine this will
be in court within the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Well, the thing is they can't. They can't litigate this
until it actually goes into effect. So for people like myself,
my business partners and I just establish a five oh
one C. Four by the name of the Second Syndicate,
which is a grassroost to a effort to unite Colorado.
One of the issues that we're going to face here
is that we can't even file lawsuits about this bill
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until it is in effect, So we would have to
wait till August first of twenty twenty six to even
make that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, let me check into that. Alicia cam pardon me, Alicia,
our special guest Boomstick Babe. How can people follow you?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You can find me on X at Boomstick Babe. You
can find me on Instagram at the Boomstick Babe. You
can go to my website at the second syndicate, the
number two. You can follow us at the second syndicate
on X. You can find me as Spartan Defense. You
can find just google Alicia A. Garth and you'll see
me with a gun.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You're like Coach Prime, you ain't hard to find, but
appreciate you being found here today. Thank you for that,
Thank you for having me. You take care of that
is Lesia Garcia, the boomstick of Babe. So we'll be
talking more obviously about SB three and the five o'clock
hour as well. Hey, really special guests coming up at
five oh six. Jenny Bradley Lickter is going to be
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our guest. She's president of the National March for Life
and she's in town for you know, our March for
Life here and so we'll do a hit with her
at five oh six. We'll talk a lot about Senate
Bill three. In the five o'clock hour, we'll try to
talk about something that nobody seems to have any interest
in which is fascinating to me, and that is Michael
Bennett making it official now as of tomorrow that he'll
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be in the governor's race, and Phil Wiser taking some
gentle shots at him right now. Wiser now billing himself
Ryan as quote, the People's Lawyer Jack, whoever the GOP
nominee is, is going to have a lot of fun
with that. Right now. The People's Lawyer would be out
there going to court to make sure that there cannot
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be men in girls' bathrooms and showers. That's what the
people's lawyer would do. The people's lawyer is not going
to go to court so men can be in girls showers. Yeah,
so this is going to be a lot of fun,
and that Democratic primary is going to be a lot
of fun as well. Here are three someone three eight
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they don't have any respect for it, or not much anyway,
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on full display today, we are told we're waiting for
confirmation a somewhat secret signing in the Governor's office, probably
just moments ago. Again, it appears to be so secretive.
We're just waiting to be able to pin all this down.
But apparently as Senate Bill three, which I think will
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well face very serious constitutional challenge quite quickly. Senate Bill three,
you know, that's the one that says, hey, you got
to go out and you got to get this training,
and you got to pay for this license, etc. To
be able to exercise your Second Amendment right with certain
types of firearms in Colorado. That apparently being signed behind
closed doors by the governor. Now again we've been unable
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to confirm that the specific nature of this signing, but
we're working on that, right now. Now, if no, you're
going to see pictures, right, because I'm sure there are
some people allowed in there and they'll have the smiley
kind of pictures with this thing. But if it's true
that this was done behind closed doors and out in
a typical kind of way, particularly for a quote big bill,
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meaning a bill of major impact, most bills that violate
the Constitution aren't considered to be bills of major impact,
that would tell you something, right, because if this thing
really is being done behind closed doors, well just tells
you the governor can't be very very proud of it, right,
So why is he signing it? Three or three? Someone?
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Three eight, two five five the number. We plan to
have a number of guests on that as we confirm
what we are told is happening right now. Now tying
into that because it's local and they're all lefties, and
some of them pretend to be moderate because they think
that's what they need to win statewide, and they're probably right,
so they try to pull off this kind of being moderates.
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And in that category is Michael Bennett, who is going
to announce tomorrow if he hasn't already, that he's running
for governor in the great state of Colorado. Who want
to get your react on that, since it is apparently
official or about to be. I find this part absolutely fascinating.
This is going to be so much fun to watch.
The glowing Denver Post article on Bennett's entry into the
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race talks about how this entry could help clear the
field of other major potential Democratic candidates. Now this tells
me that Joanah Goose is probably not getting in the
race because he would dust Michael Bennett. I think in
a Democrat primary, I don't think Bennett gets in unless
he's had assurances that no, Goose will not can.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I didn't interject one moment Dan on that front. Let
me run this bias, see what you think. Yes, So
Bennett declares his candidacy for governor tomorrow. He strikes a
deal with Joe Nogose, telling him if you don't run,
I'll appoint you to my former Senate seat.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah. No, it makes perfect sense. Right. But here's here's
the issue, my good friend. Unclear at this point is
whether Michael Bennett is going to give up his Well,
wait a second, let's do the math. Bennett is up
in twenty eight right, Okay, so your math works kicking
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Loopers up in twenty six, Bennett's up in twenty eight.
So you're right, Bennett gets elected in twenty six, and
then under your theory, the payoff to No Goose in
terms of an appointment to the last two years of
the seat. Correct, good thinking, good thinking. Yeah, but no
way Bennett's getting in right now unless he's been assured
No Goose is not. But I think the real fun
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part is going to be this battle between Wiser and Bennett, Right,
I mean two guys who are I think, woefully out
of touch with your typical Colorado and far far, far,
far far far left of them pretending to be moderate.
And here's exhibit A. Wiser has now branded himself quote
the People's lawyer, right, says Attorney General Colorado. I wonder
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how much you paid a consultant for that, So those
I that's kind of cute. Now, well, you know that
is so true, right in this sense, And there are
people out there who do that, who really are the
people's lawyer. And they can fall into all sorts of
different categories that can be Democrats or Republicans or unaffiliateds,
but they're not Phil Wiser, right, Okay, So I mean
a guy like me, and it's been a privilege, you know,
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last forty years. Yeah, I'm representing real people from all
walks of life. These are real people. I'm not representing corporations.
I'm representing It can be anybody from a homeless person,
a CEO, teacher, professional athlete. I've represented them all for
forty years. The common denominator is they're good people with
the righteous case. Now, Phil Wiser, what is he out
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there doing? Hey, he's up. They're abusing the power he's
been given, not in an illegal sense, but abusing the
power he's been given to go out and pursue all
these far left fringe causes. That ain't the people's lawyer, right,
that's the far left wackos lawyer. But now he's billing
himself as the people's lawyer against Michael Bennett. So this
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is going to be rich, right, This is got literally rich.
Here here's a quote from Wiser. I am the fighter
Colorado needs as our next governor, Wiser said in a
statement two years ago, the voter sent Senator Bennett back
to d C because we believed he would be there
for us no matter what, especially in historically dangerous moments
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like the one we currently face now more than ever,
we need experience democratic leaders in Washington. So he's taking
his little pop at Bennett there, right, But you know,
the knives are to get sharpened here as this thing continues,
unless Wiser just gets steamrolled. Right. So this is going
to be fun to watch, and I think any skilled
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GOP nominee for governor will have a lot of fun
with Phil Wiser's self branding as quote the People's lawyer
three or three someone three eight, two five five the
number the people's lawyers. Certainly willing wouldn't be willing to
infringe on the people's Second Amendment rights the way that
Phil Wiser is. But then again he infringes so many
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different rights. Well, well, follow this in more detail tomorrow
when Bennett makes it official. But that tells you a
lot about the state of the Democratic Party in Colorado,
doesn't it, And just the the utter dishonesty. People call
it hypocrisy, but that's too gentle, right, It's this con game.
It's this bade and switch where where they pretend to
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be so woke, can they They tell voters of color
you know we're for you, they're racist over there, And
then who gets all the top jobs. Right, Well, let's
think about kid. No, no, And I'm not being fair,
right because we've had so many people of color be
the Democrat, a governor in Colorado, the Democrat senator. Let's
just go through the list, right, I mean, John Hickenlooper,
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he is the model of diversity, isn't he. You cannot
get any more diverse than John Hickenlooper or you know,
Roy Romer before him, Bill Ritter certainly epitome of diversity.
And come on now, Jared Polis, he is mister diversity, right,
And then yeah, who would we have had? Oh? Yeah,
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a woman Carrie Kennedy, Right, she was going to be
and she was going to win. She was going to
be the first female governor of Colorado. And Jared poulis
just steamroller with his cash.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But now we have the battle of the DEI Titans,
the diversity titans here Michael Bennett and Phil Wiser, Right,
I mean, I could you get too more diverse candidates
squaring off? Now? At a certain point, you know, if
you're someone of color who's been habitually voting for the
Democratic Party and they've been telling you all this stuff
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about how they care so much. At some point, don't
you have to say, well, wait a second, I mean,
where are your candidates of color? Where are your female candidates?
How come all these top jobs except for Secretary of State?
How come but governor, US Senate, Attorney General? How come
all of those go to the old white guys? Right,
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very revealing, So be interesting to see how they address that.
My friend, So we're lining up guests on Senate built
three that this build that in such a weird way
infringes on Second Amendment rights. I believe in a way
that's going to be struck down as unconstitutional. But we'll
find that out together, and we'll find out shortly whether
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it's true. Ryan, you have reliable sources. I'm just seeing
some stuff online, et cetera that Poulis is just sign
this in a non public ceremony. Again, have not been
able to confirm either. Well, it's your take.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Here is the confirmation.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Dan Rob Dawson our KOA newsroom reporting that Meg Frolitch,
who's one of the co sponsors of the bill, was
in the Governor's office as he was signing it, kind
of behind closed doors. I don't see a lot of
fanfare along with this but we'll see some of that
residual media coverage coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, Rob says it, it's true. We know that much, right,
So hey, we'll come back, we'll dive into that. We'll
have the latest done. Obviously, this ongoing effort of President
Trump to level the playing field and to do this
reset around the world with tariffs and so much more.
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Speaker 4 (09:53):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Talking about Senate Bill three. It's confirmed now that this
really bizarre infringement on Second Amendment rights has now been
signed by PAULUS apparently about an hour ago, and no
no big public ceremony from what we can tell so far,
but we're waiting to confirm all of those details. And obviously,
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you know, Paul has kind of left Colorado behind in
his mind a long time ago. He's just trying to
navigate things now so he can have some hope in
a presidential race, and he knows that that signing a
bill like this is really going to make it a
lot tougher to get into the lane. He wants to
get in right, which is as some kind of moderate
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nationally Yeah, infringing on Second Amendment rights not a great
entry ramp into that lane. So he crafted this bizarre
quote compromise where Okay, now they can infringe on your
Second Amendment right for semi auto rifles, for some pistols
that have you know, that are gas fed to a
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certain ex things like that. I mean, they're infringing on
your right by requiring a different kind of background check,
requiring this training, etc. So this is the so called
compromise that polists forged, And obviously it doesn't make any
sense at all, right, because first, you shouldn't be infringing
on Second Amendment rights, and I don't think this thing's
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going to stand up constitutionally. But then the second thing is,
wait a second. I thought the point of any law right,
but the point of these laws, allegedly is public safety.
And so you have to come back to this question.
If you're going to claim a right to infringe on
a fundamental right to a Second Amendment right, what is
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the compelling state interest? What is this supposed to accomplish?
And can any honest person in the world look you
in the eye and say this bill is somehow going
to thwart a determined mass killer. Nobody could do that, right.
I mean it comes back to this profound truth that
the Left can never get around, which is that somebody
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willing to kill another person, somebody willing to violate the
most important law in our society, the law against murder,
is not going to care about your gun law. Is
there any effective counter argument to that? Can anybody even
begin to make a case for why somebody who is
willing to murder would then be deterred by a gun law. No,
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it's nonsense. So then the argument becomes old. But they
won't be able to get them. Well, same thing, if
somebody is willing to go out and murder, well, somebody
is going to be willing to violate the law to
go get their guns. I mean, the whole thing is
absolutely ridiculous, particularly when you look at it against the
backdrop of what the Left is not willing to do
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to protect the innocent, starting with children, right, which is
a sacred obligation, a sacred trust. The left is not
willing to do what the left actively opposes, really concrete
steps that would save the innocent. The left opposes why,
because to save the innocent, you would have to have
good guys and gals with guns. And because the left's
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true mission is to undermine the Second Amendment. If they
can't do away with it on paper, then to just
undermine the right, because that's their true mission, and their
anti gun ideology is more important to them than the
lives of innocent children. They stand there and they oppose,
they oppose most of them, you know, armed guards in schools,
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you know, properly heavily trained and qualified teachers, being allowed
to have a concealed weapon in schools, etc. No, truly,
their anti gun ideology is more important than the lives
of innocent children. And they play Russian roulette right when
they oppose these measures that would actually help give kids
a fighting chance and staff. When the next monsters show
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up at a Colorado school, you know, they're playing Russian
roulette with the lives of all of those kids and
all of those teachers. But that doesn't bother Left for
a second. So anyway, we'll get deeper into this Senate
built three nonsense, which is now apparently signed by Polis
and Law in Colorado. Ryan, we should have a little
pool here. I'm sure we have some kind of prize
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to give away. We should have a little pool. How quickly,
how quickly will this be in court? How quickly will
this be in court? Because remember you have had you
have had liberty groups be very, very very successful. I mean,
nobody wins every case, but they've been winning a ton
of cases. Rocky Mount gun owners is I think of,
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on a ton of cases and have won them early,
you know, in the injunction phase. So how quickly will
this end up in court? So hey, happy, We're going
to have Sheriff Steve Riems with us at thirty six
the Great Wealth kind of sheriff get his take on
this as well. So if somebody wants to argue in
favor of this bill, I would love to have the conversation.
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Love to have the conversation because again I would love
to get into the heads of the people on the
left who are pushing all of this, because they must
know it's not going to stop a single mass shooter,
and yet at the same time they oppose the things
that really would protect the innocent. It's crazy stuff, crazy
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and dangerous stuff. By the way, I do want to
talk to you at some point today about space command. Right,
we have a Republican Congressional delegation in Colorado taking the
initiative to appeal to President Trump, as they should, to
keep Space Command in Colorado, Alabama pushing hard for it.
I think the starting point is the obvious one, right,
Space Command should be in Colorado. That is best for
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our national security, and it should remain here. Vision like
this should not be politicized. But we know there is
a very very real danger that President Trump will move it.
And so what's fascinating to me is, given the importance
of Space Command to Colorado, why have so many high
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level Colorado Democrats gone out of their way to antagonize
President Trump, who, by the way, gets to make the
decision as to whether Space Command remains in Colorado. So
all it tells you is they don't really care about that.
These democrats who tell you they care so much about it,
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yet at the same time go out of their way
to gratuitous, gratuitously and bizarrely and in the most extreme
ways attack President Trump. Are going to cry these crocodile
tears for Space Command. Well, let's hope it doesn't leave
to begin with, and it would be a mistake. You know,
President Trump, great president, but it would be a mistake
if he sends it to Alabama, buddy. And if you're
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the state where you've got now the candidate for Attorney
Jenner General Jenna Griswold out there trying to get Trump
off the ballot. You've got all these big time lefties
in all these high offices calling Trump the worst possible things.
How do they think that's going to help keep Space
Command in Colorado? Yeah, I'd love to have that conversation
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with them, but I don't think they're interested in that
because they don't have a good answer. Three or three
someone three eight two five five the number Sheriff Steve
Raimes coming up next. We'll talk about police signing Senate
Bill three. This pretty significant restriction on Second Amendment rights.
And even if it wasn't as big a restriction and
infringement as this is, any infringement is big, right because
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it's a fundamental right. You're just not allowed to do
that unless you have a very compelling reason to do so.
So we'll have that conversation with Sheriff Rames after the break.
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Speaker 4 (18:18):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
The sheriff from Welled County, Colorado, to talk about Senate
Bill three, which apparently has now been signed by the
governor and his law in Colorado. I expect it will
be in court very very quickly and be tested there. Sheriff,
thank you for being here, love to get your take.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Thanks for having me on, Dan, And I would think
I wasn't under these circumstances. Yeah, not a good day
for Colorado. It's certainly not a good day for Second
Amendment advocates, and it's a hell of a bad day
for sheriffs across the state of Colorado.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah. And Jeriff, would you elaborate on that as well, because,
as I understand Senate Bill three, it also includes and
involvement on the part of sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, because the bill sponsors of this bill were trying
to you know, cook the books behind the scenes. I'm
choosing my words wisely here. You know, they were trying
to push this whole thing to a way in which
the Colorado Parks and Wildlife guys would basically oversee this
and we we as sheriff, well, that's that's a terrible idea.
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We just the bill needs to go away. So instead
they leverage the sheriff in the middle of this bill
and said, okay, well it'll be the sheriff that will
that will issue these permits so that people can go
out and buy guns that they should be able to
buy anyway. So they're basically trying to put sheriffs, you know,
in the middle of this so that our constituents will
see us as the enemy if they're not educated as
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to what this bill is all about. And obviously, you know,
any sheriff that says, well I'm just going to oppose
the bill, I won't do it, well, then you know,
the sheriff is the person that's going to be standing
in the way of someone ex exercising their gun rights.
And right obviously none of us want to do that.
So yeah, it puts uh, you know, it puts the
sheriffs in a really awkward situation where we're having to
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it's an unfunded mandate where we're having to issue a
permit to a person that quite honestly, we don't think
we should be involved in, and we think people should
be able to go out and exercise their second Amendment rights.
I don't think there was a sheriff in the state
of Colorado that supported this crappy legislation, and yet here
we are and for the for the governor to sign this,
you know, in darkness, so to speak, you know, without
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any fan there. It tells you how proud of you
is to this bill. Yeah, I just I think it's cowardly.
I think it's I'll seize my words again.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sure, Iff Steve Reams always a straight sugar sheriff. Do
you think this was part of the motive behind this
bill was to put sheriffs in this difficult position, undermine sheriffs,
undermine confidence in sheriffs. I mean, with the radical left
controlling the Democratic Party in Colorado, I don't think any
of that is beyond the realm of possibility, if not likelihood.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I think that's absolutely the case. You know, the sheriffs
are down there at the state capitol. Myself included pushing
back on a lot of different radical bills at the
left to have run over the years. You know, I
was obviously a staunch opponent of red flag law, as
I still am, and I think they just got tired
of it, so they're trying to figure out. Okay, well,
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how can we silence the sheriffs. Well, this isn't going
to work. You know, we're still going to stand for
our constituents. We're still going to let our constituents know
who passed this bad legislation and will lay it at
the feet of the people that are responsible. In the meantime,
this bill doesn't go into effect until I think it's
August first of twenty twenty six, and don't quote me
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on that date, but you know, the Democrats will be
the best gun salesman in the state of Colorado than
anyone's ever seen. There'll be a run on every gun
that they've banned between now and August two thousand and
six and are twenty twenty six, And you know that's
that's what, That's what Colorado. What should do? Go out
and buy them.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
What a great point that you make. And let's talk
about the type of firearms that are affected here. How
would you best summarize it? I know that actually reading
through the bill, which I've done multiple times, is mind
numbing for anyone, but but how would you summarize the
firearms affected?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Basically? The way I I've told constituent constituents. Is it's
anything that's that's quote unquote black and scary as far
as you know when they're when they're talking about one
of the assault rifles, Yeah, yeah, it's AR fifteen. Are
are something that that it's similar to an AR fifteen,
That's what they're going after. A detactable magazine, and a
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gas tube that helps in the in the circulation of
the gun. Long story short, The biggest part of this
bill that's that's troubling though, when you're talking about what
guns does it affect, is there's actually a section in
there that gives the Attorney General the authority to make
determinations about what guns should be on this list into
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the future. Well, when you think about who's announced that
they're going to run for attorney General, you know, if
you weren't worried about Phil Wiser making these decisions, well
then the you know, the possibility of Jennet Griswold being
the gun expert for the state of Colorado. I mean,
I can't think of anything more asinine than that. It's
like we're living in a circus. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know, one thing I'd love your take on because
you know, Sheriff Reems always keeps it real and he
walks the talk, right, I mean, he's out there doing
that dangerous job and he's out on the streets all
the time. Is why do you think the Democrats and
this isn't meant as a shot, I think it's just obvious.
Why do you think they have so little to no
concern about our ability to protect ourselves?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean starting with oh, okay, we can't have more
than fifteen rounds in a I mean, why do they
not have that concern? Or are we just kind of
an acceptable casualty rate?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You know, I've asked myself that many times, many times, Dan,
And the only thing I can think of is they
want to go back to a to a world that
you know, guns never existed in, and you can't you
can't put the you can't you can't go back in
time and change that. It's not going to happen. And
so they have this panacea that if well no guns existed,
that there would be no gun violence. Well, that's that
(24:31):
ship has sailed, that's long gone. And so then the
idea is, well, then let's just let's let's make guns
scary and if no one, no one wants to go
out and use guns, and maybe sometime in the future
these guns will go away. And I'm giving them all
the you know, all the width in the world to
try to give give space to their argument, but ultimately
they want to go after the one thing that keeps
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government in control and what the Second Amendment was written for.
And that's what I truly believe. And while they don't
have say that, you know, they say it's about safety
and whatnot. If they really thought about safety, if this
was really about safety, they wouldn't be banning guns. They'd
be going out and buying them.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well a great point, and they'd be backing these measures
to try to protect the innocent from bad guys with guns,
you know, such as they stand in the way of
so much that can make our school safer. Sheriff Steve Reims,
our guest and Sheriff, you've made kind of the point
of the week, if not the month, which is I
hadn't even thought of that yet. I'm going to be
one of them too. You know, this is going to
(25:30):
send a lot of people out to buy these firearms
now because it doesn't become effective to August to twenty six,
because they have to put so much bureaucracy in place
now to be able to facilitate all of this training.
They're requiring issuing of permits, et cetera. So, yeah, I'm
going to be one of those people, you know, heading
(25:50):
out to get to get these guns. They're going to
be the Yeah they.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Ever been on the fence about owning one of these
particular weapons. I think it's time to get off the
fence and go buy it. You know, two or three
you have some for in the future because the law
is not retroactive. You know, exercise the right way you
have it before you have to pay to use it.
I mean, this is again, it's it's ridiculous. There's not
a criminal out there that's paying any attention to what
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the legislature's doing and saying, well, you know, I guess
I'll have to stop my criminal acts as of August
of twenty twenty six. That's not how this works. But
the law of nighting citizen as of right now should
go out and save themselves some cash, buy now, and
buy by early and by often. No.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is such great advice and sherif frames our guests. Now,
I use the wrong word when I said banned because
it's not technically a ban. It just creates all of
these obstacles and all this expense. But clearly the left
wants to ban these firearms, and as you look down
the road toward the real possibility of a Michael Bennett
or a Phil Wiser as the next governor, et cetera,
(26:53):
you have to anticipate that possibility as well. Sheriff in
our last minute together, would love your thought on on
whether you've ever heard one of these people who wants
to infringe on two way answer this question, Well, what
makes you believe that somebody who's willing to violate our
laws against murder is going to obey our laws about guns?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
The best answer I've ever heard any of them give is, well,
the less guns that are out there on the street,
the less opportunity there is for someone to get a
hold of them. So they're basically admitting that criminals aren't
going to follow the law, they're going to steal them
from someone who bought them legally, so they just rather
the legal people not have them. You know, that's the
most backwards ideologic ideal that I can ever think of,
(27:37):
But that's the best argument I've heard them give and
that's a terrible argument.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Boy, it sure is, especially since it all starts so
it's wait a second, we do have that constitutional right.
But Sheriff, you've been heroic in so many different ways
on this and other issues. So thank you for the
time today.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Hey, thanks for having me, Dan, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You take care of that is as Sheriff Steve reams,
and we're hoping the sheriff will be hosting this show
coming up. I've got this run of jury trials starting
soon and I think I'm going to have like four
and six weeks and so I'll be on when I'm
not in trial. But then we're trying to get some
other great folks like share Frames to sit in as
(28:16):
he did a couple of weeks ago. So we're going
to have a great crew as we always do. Three
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Speaker 4 (28:32):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show, Podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Three being signed today by Governor Polus. Unfortunately, Sheriff Steve
Reims just joined us. Was fantastic and very informative. As always.
Let's go now to the boomstick Babe. Alicia Garcia, welcome
back to the dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Well, what's your take on this?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
This is disgusting. Well, you know, I think most of
us in this industry new that he was going to
finn this. I also don't think that we knew that
he was going to do it in such a cowardly
and timid fashion. He did it behind closed door. If
he announced it today, I'm pretty sure that the anti
gun organizations such as every Town who wrote this bill
(29:16):
and Mom's Demand Action were well aware that he was
going to sign this today, because they were all sitting
around him clamoring once it was signed. And yet I
feel as if you were going to rob Colorado of
its constitutional rights, at least have the audacity to look
us in the face and have a public ceremony when
you do it.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't think that Polus has developed a reputation for
courage right there. I mean, remember, I mean literally he
disappeared when the mob descended upon downtown Denver after the
killing of George Floyd. Literally disappeared for a couple of days.
But Alicia, please tell people what your biggest concerns are
with this build there are so many but what are
(29:57):
your biggest concerns?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Well, this puts Colorado in a very precurious and dangerous
place because we are now number one in the United
States in gun control. We are surpassing California, we are
surpassing every other state that has all of these extra
overreaches from the government. But what this does is it
basically turns Colorado from a shell issue to a may
(30:19):
issue state. It also makes guns more dangerous. Having guns
with a fixed magazines that are poxied onto the firearm
per the requests of this mandate here, it makes guns
more dangerous. You're not going to be able to clear firearms,
or drop magazines or clear chambers with the fixed magazines.
You're also going to put a lot of small businesses out,
(30:40):
which are very important to me as my business partner.
In the second cidicate is Spartan Defense in Colorado Springs
shout out to them, but I mean, these are people
that have fought their way to make a way for
people to be able to defend themselves, and now they're
robbing them of that right to exist. And this is
also going to put a lot of people in jeopardy
because they may not be able to afford these these
(31:00):
laws and these visual requirements in these classes.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, Alicia Garcia, our guest and sheriff frames made a
brilliant point I thought a couple of minutes ago, which is,
wait a second, this thing isn't effective until August of
twenty six for the reasons Alicia just referred to, which is,
you've got to put all this bureaucracy in place right
now that you're going to require all these permits, all
these permits issued by sheriffs, that whole process. So there's
(31:25):
just going to be a big run on these firearms
between now and then, in including me. I mean, you know,
I wasn't sitting around thinking, boy, you know, I really
need to go out and buy a couple of these
right now until Sheriff mentioned that, and then it's I'm
going to clear some time tomorrow and go get a couple.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Well, I mean, be sure to come down and support
us at Spartan Defense down in Colorado Springs, because wonderful,
that's what we do for you. That's what we do
is we supply the best firearms here in Colorado. You know,
one of the things that I have concerned about this
entire bill is now that we have to wait another
year to be infringed upon. What is going to happen
in the meantime to the other bills that have already
(32:04):
passed from last year that still have not gone into effect.
How is that going to affect the gun industry right now?
I mean, they pass an excise tax on firearms and
ammunition that went an effect in April. Well, how are
you supposed to tax a item and things that you're
not able to even purchase in the first place. So
it's kind of like they're not even allowing the laws
that they've passed to take place to see how they
(32:27):
affect or change the political landscape of Colorado and just
keep force speeding more gun control down our throats. And sadly,
this isn't the only bill that's hurting us right now.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is the main one.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But it is literally a death by a thousand cuts
by saying, hey, you know what, we have this awful bill,
but we still have what I think twenty five bills
total this legislative session that have the word firearm in it.
I think it's just it's just a little bit over
the top.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Well, yeah, and then how quickly. Is this one going
to be in court? I have to imagine this will
be in court within the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Well, the thing is they can't. They can't litigate this
until it actually goes into effect. So for people like myself,
my business partners and I just establish a five oh
one C. Four by the name of the Second Syndicate,
which is a grassroost to a effort to unite Colorado.
One of the issues that we're going to face here
is that we can't even file lawsuits about this bill
(33:22):
until it is in effect, So we would have to
wait till August first of twenty twenty six to even
make that happen.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, let me check into that. Alicia cam pardon me, Alicia,
our special guest Boomstick Babe. How can people follow you?
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You can find me on X at Boomstick Babe. You
can find me on Instagram at the Boomstick Babe. You
can go to my website at the second syndicate, the
number two. You can follow us at the second syndicate
on X. You can find me as Spartan Defense. You
can find just google Alicia A. Garth and you'll see
me with a gun.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
You're like Coach Prime, you ain't hard to find, but
appreciate you being found here today. Thank you for that,
Thank you for having me. You take care of that
is Lesia Garcia, the boomstick of Babe. So we'll be
talking more obviously about SB three and the five o'clock
hour as well. Hey, really special guests coming up at
five oh six. Jenny Bradley Lickter is going to be
(34:16):
our guest. She's president of the National March for Life
and she's in town for you know, our March for
Life here and so we'll do a hit with her
at five oh six. We'll talk a lot about Senate
Bill three. In the five o'clock hour, we'll try to
talk about something that nobody seems to have any interest
in which is fascinating to me, and that is Michael
Bennett making it official now as of tomorrow that he'll
(34:37):
be in the governor's race, and Phil Wiser taking some
gentle shots at him right now. Wiser now billing himself
Ryan as quote, the People's Lawyer Jack, whoever the GOP
nominee is, is going to have a lot of fun
with that. Right now. The People's Lawyer would be out
there going to court to make sure that there cannot
(34:58):
be men in girls' bathrooms and showers. That's what the
people's lawyer would do. The people's lawyer is not going
to go to court so men can be in girls showers. Yeah,
so this is going to be a lot of fun,
and that Democratic primary is going to be a lot
of fun as well. Here are three someone three eight
two five five techs D eight and five seven seven
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three nine. It's a blessing to live in interesting times.
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