Dan and Ryan discuss what the off-ramp for Vladimir Putin to save face and end his war of aggression in Ukraine will look like, referring to comments made by Secretary of State Marco Rubio on how such a deal needs to be enforceable and durable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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it off the pod. Jill Osa. She's fighting for truth
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justice in the American way. She's one of these women,
private people, just doing Cora requests, contributing to do better Denver.
When she gets outed by the Denver Post, she asks
them not to publish her name. She's got kids, she's
a stay at home mom. And he said, no, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna do it because you're a
partial public figure. Their expert said, by the way, a
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made up term. You're a partial public figure because you're
doing CORA request and submitting to do better Denver. What
utter nonsense. And I think just my constitutionally protected opinion,
just a blatant at intimidation. So hope everybody goes out
there now. If you don't already follow do Better Denver
on X, go follow them right now and follow them
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on Instagram as well, so let their power grow. I'm
not saying they're perfect. There's never been a perfect human
endeavor of any kind anywhere. But I think this crowd sourcing,
where people can get the truth out there about the
rapid decline of Denver, it's the best chance Denver has
to improve. So I think it's great service. Three all
three seven one three A two five five the number
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text d an five seven seven three nine. Glad you
are here. Historic day two. These days, man, like, every
day's interesting, right, but these days they've just really got
a jazz. You. You've got Trump, just the power, and
think about it. I know life's so fast, right, it's
hard for us to slow down sometimes and appreciate these
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amazing moments we're living through. But we're not going to
see a presidency like this again for a long time.
You know. I flashed back to and I was just
a little critter. I was six years old, you know,
when when John Kennedy was killed and I was home
from school watching Boso Circus and the breaking news in
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those days, breaking news meant something seismic and heard it
went in to tell my mom. She broke down crying,
and I remember as a six year old. This is
the point of the story. As a six year old,
I said to her, there's never going to be another
president like Kennedy, says a six year old, I could
somehow understand what was very very true, and we didn't
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have another presidency like Kennedy's right, same thing as true
of Trump. I mean, this is what we're watching right
now is kind of magical. I mean, we know the origins, right,
we know how we got to this point and why
he now has this ability to shape and influence world
events that he has, and a lot of it is
what he achieved in the past and what he overcame.
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But bottom line is, we're not likely no matter how old.
You can be a newborn right and the first thing
your parents are having you listen to outside the womb
is this show. Or you could be one hundred and twenty,
you could be Joe Biden like and everybody in between.
Nobody alive right now I think is likely to see
a presidency like this again, and so I just want
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to try to savor it. It doesn't mean it's going
to be perfect or a straight line up, but I
don't think we're going to see one like this again
in our lifetime, and the opportunity nothing's guaranteed. Right, everything
can go south, but everything can go north too, And
let's trademark that Ryan, We could sell those shirts, right,
So the opportunity we'll claim copyright right now is vast,
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and Trump is at least putting the world in a
position to win. So I do want to get to
some of that Zelensky sound from today, as well as
everything surrounding it. But before we go there, we've got
to go to maybe my favorite bite of the day now,
James Comy talking about Taylor Swift. Nothing can top that
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cut nine. Please Joe Scarborough announce a name change.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We will become MS now, which stands from my source
for news, opinion and the world. And look, Andrew, they
even have a graphic up.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I like it. It looks very sporty. So you know
you're in trouble when NBC doesn't want to be associated
with you anymore. But that aside, Yeah, when they have
to change their name, that's the biggest white flag you
can get. It's kind of like the abortion movement, right
when they had to drop the word abortion. Yeah, that's
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the clearest message you can send that you're losing that
you now have to hide who you really are to win.
You know, that's why the abortion movement could no longer
be National Abortion Rights Action League, you know. Now they've
got to be reproductive this or cobalt or whatever, anything
but abortion right because everybody knows abortion is wrong. And
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so yeah, so this NBC has to change your name.
That's another great sign. So I've got to ask you,
And if I was in studio, I'm remote, I would
just press the button I have in there for this.
But are you tired of winning yet? Ryan? Can you
dig that up and play it a couple of times
at whatever time you deem appropriate because it is probably
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our favorite Trump liner. Oh did somebody take it down
if they hired a liberal there?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But a lot of Polists, a.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Lot of oh wait, probably too much of that, right
though some of it we can never let go. So
I want to play this President. I want to play
this President Selensky bite because I think it goes right
to the heart of what's really going on here. So uh,
let's go to this trilateral bite. Cut their team, please, President.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Are you prepared to keep any and truths to their
desks for another couple of years?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Or are you going to redraws? Thank you for your questions.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
So, first of all, you know we live under each
day at tax.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know that today have been at a.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Lot of tests and a lot of wounded people.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And the child was that small one one one year
and a half.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
So we need to stop this world, to stop Russia,
and we need support American and European partners.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
We will do our best for this.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So and I think we show that we are strong
people and we supported the idea of the United States
of personal President Trump to stop this work, to make
a diplomatic way of finishing this war. And we are
ready for trilateral Ask presidents this is a good thing
about I think this is very good.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Thank you. Yeah, boy, the trilateral thing is key, right
because if you're President's Lensky, then yeah, you want Trump
at the table. You wanted to be putent. You wanted
to be Trump and Zelensky. Because Trump is the power.
Trump is what changes the playing field. It's what changes
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the battlefield. Trump is what changes the balance. If you've
got a teeter totter there, right, Trump just brings it
down hard on one side. And that's what it's going
to take. Right now, to get a deal done, and
there's no guarantee that'll get the deal done, right, But
I've got to believe that all the behind the scene
stuff that led up to last Friday and today, etc.
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That there's strong reason to believe that Putin will go
ahead and do a deal if he gets the land
he wants, the concessions he wants, and that the reason
he would do that deal is because the alternative is
vastly increased American support for Ukraine and the war effort
in a much longer war with a much stronger Ukraine. Right,
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Clearly that picture has now been painted for Putin, and
then in terms of US security guarantee in Ukraine, I
don't think the Trump administration's trying to sugarcoat it at
this point. I think they've been pretty clear that there
would be a very strong US military presence and that
if Putin violated the agreement, there would be American troops there. Now,
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you tell me, I'm really anxious to hear three or
three seven one three A two five five text DN
five seven seven three nine. Would you support a deal
like that that put American troops in a position where
if Russia invaded again, Because that's what it would be.
It wouldn't be violating a ceasefire. No, it would be
another invasion because there would have been a treaty, there
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would have been these new borders. It would be an invasion.
So essentially we may be in a position and it's
way too early to conclude that, right. We haven't seen
anything writing. You know, the President hasn't told us what
the extent of American military support would be. But if
it's a scenario where yeah, if there's another invasion, US
troops are going to be there to help protect Ukraine,
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are you okay with that? Three oh three seven one
three A two five five text d A N five
seven seven three nine Dan, why not post names and
images and home addresses of the entire Denver Post newsroom?
That is the standard they have now set? No, No, never, never,
And I don't believe that's the standard the Post is set.
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I think that what the Post did was one of
the worst things I've ever seen in journalism in Colorado.
My own constitutionally protected opinion. I believe it was done
to try to intimidate our guest, Jill and others out
of contributing to do better Denver because it's a very
bad look, right for the lefties who controlled this state.
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And it's yeah, I think that's what's going on here.
But no, no, in my view, two wrongs never ever
make a right, And no, I would not support it.
And that's one of the reasons I've been so critical
of what the Post did and still so disbelieving they
even did it, because they know, they know that there
are so many more nuts out there right now, so
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many more nuts who might get violent quickly, you know,
motivated by this this, you know, the voices they hear
in their head whatever to act politically, and so they
know journalists are so much more of a target. And
and there's are so many on the left, you know,
the left, not the Post, but the left. You know,
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violence is part of their playbook. Politics of personal destruction,
big part of their playbook. But violence, I mean, you know,
look at the way many on the left have encouraged,
you know, rampant violence across the country, say example, during
the looting following George Floyd's death. So the Post knows
how dangerous the increased level of danger out there now
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for some journalist, and yet the Post is now subjecting
this woman our guest and other private people did this
just because they submit to do better. Denver So no
two wrongs like that, in my view, would never ever
make a right three or three someone three eight, two, five, five.
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Let me. I don't have time for darn it. I
promise I'll start on the other side. One of the
strangest things you have ever heard, James Comey releases this
five minute video and part of it he's talking about
Taylor Swift. Was he impaired in this video? Why do
you think he did it? You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
There have been some absolutely major shifts. The idea that
Ukraine's going to achieve complete victory, that i.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
GEA has collapsed within Ukrainian society.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
What are we talking about here, Ukrainians on the war
versus Russia. You go back to twenty twenty two, to
the start of.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
The war, fight until Ukraine wins.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Look at this, the vast majority, about three quarters seventy
three percent agreed with that possession negotiate to end the
war as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Only twenty two percent. Look at where we are now.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
It's a complete flip it's the inverse. Now, sixty nine
percent want to negotiate to end the war as soon
as possible, compared to just twenty four percent who want
to fight until Ukraine wins. That's a forty nine point
drop in this position. Now, of course, negotiating to end
the war as soon as possible, that's a bit more nuanced, Right,
Ukrainians don't want to agree to rush all of Russia's demand.
But I think the idea of even there being some
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territory that would be not formally recognized as being given
that Russia could in fact stay, and that does have
a majority sport, But the idea of formal recognition of
Russia's man absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, and I'd say don't overread that poll right, for
the reasons he alluded to at the end. Yeah, the
idea that you're going to defeat Russia. Yeah, I mean
Ukrainians are smart people, right, Any smart person can see
that isn't going to happen because Europe was unwilling to
put boots on the ground. So defeating Russia that isn't
going to happen. Now, will it be a victory of
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historic proportions for Ukraine now to survive you know, eighty
five percent in deck. Yeah, it will be because think
of what they were facing. Joe Biden was handing the
victory to Putin. Joe Biden offered to get Zelensky out
of the country in the first twenty four hours. That
would have handed victory to Putin. Remember all those Russian tanks,
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the entire Russian army ready to move into Kiev just
twenty five miles down the road. And yeah, so the
fact that Ukraine will survive largely in fact, that's going
to be what an enormous credit to the people of Ukraine. Now,
the fact that Satan Putin gets even an inch of
Ukrainian territory, that's sick. But don't blame Trump. Don't blame Trump.
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You know, blame Biden for his weakness, blame Europe for
not putting boots on the ground to support Ukraine. But
don't blame Trump. He's just trying to be a peacemaker
and salvage the best deal he can for Ukraine. And
people say, all, like John Bolton, we played that, Oh
he wants a Nobel Peace Prize. What's wrong with that? Right?
I mean, every single human other than Jesus Christ himself
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had some mixed motives, you know, and Jesus, obviously divine,
had some mixed motives. And so there is nothing wrong
with somebody who's out there trying to make peace and
do the right thing. Also think it'd be nice to
get the Nobel Peace Prize. Nothing wrong with that. But literally,
other than God himself, yeah, God himself, when he was
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both human and divine, there's never been a human, I think,
who didn't have at least some mixed motive. Now, that
may be unfair. You look at somebody like Pope, John Paul,
the Great Mother Teresa, some others. Yeah, I'm sure there
were some who didn't have that, but the vast majority
do and I have no problem with that. As long
as their heart is in doing the right thing, and
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they do the right thing, if they can do well
by doing good, I got no problem with that. Three
or three sevene three eight two five five The number
one numbskull. We were very lucky to survive is James
call me. And I remember a point in time many
years ago where I respected him and I thought, hey,
you know, that's a great lawman there. That was shallow
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thinking on my part. But now you know, Trump helped
to expose him, and I think, as I said at
the time, I'm proud of saying it at the time
because very few were that was a coup attempt during
that first term to take down the president. Komy was
right at the center of it. But I think he's
confirmed now that he's just kind of gone nuts. Cut twelve. Please,
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maybe he's been nuts.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I bet you got pushed around. Somebody made you cold.
But the cycle ends right now because you can't leave
me down that road.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You'll be glad I didn't sing that.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
That's right because down that road is unhappiness. Nobody should
have that power over us. Thank you, Taylor Swift. Keep
the faith short. Yeah that is the shorter version. Yeah,
it's even weirder than that. We'll play some more of
it later. But one of the questions I have for
you is, why do you think he did this?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I know we had a texter who said, it's, you know,
proof of life Dan theory. I saw Comy's read video
about Taylor Swift might have been proof of life. Also,
since he's under investigation, normal communication is not possible with
his co conspirators, so this video it's coded messages for
certain people I'm not part of that theory. But why
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do you think he did do it? Is he trying
to set up an incompetence defense if they charge him.
That's a joke, by the way, But why do you
think he did this? Do you have a theory? Ryan?
It's one of the stranger things in a while.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I think he's just starving for relevance. You remember the
seashells on the shore and yeah, claimed he just happened
upon that formation.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know it's the Madonna posing naked with animals.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh, yes, very much though, right when she.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Reached that point, anything to stay in the public eye,
and then it just got weirder and weirder, no question
about it. But anxious hear from folks say, if this
Ukraine deal depends on US troops ready to help protect
Ukraine if Russia invades again, we would you support that?
Three H three seven one three A two five five
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the number? How about you there, young Ryan? Would you
support that?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
There would have to be an imminent threat or danger
to our installation somewhere in the world. I don't think
Russia's stupid enough to draw US, the United States into
a fight on Ukraine's behalf, but It's what President Trump
has been saying, It's what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now, this is Europe's war. They need to step up.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We stepped up for them in kind of a big
way in World War Two and bailed them out and
saved the continent. It's time for them to pay the piper,
and it's time for them to put their money with
their mouth. This.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, and I expect that's what this deal will look
like in the end, is that most of the security guarantee,
any troops right in Ukraine, you know, will be European.
There'll be some American presidence, enough of an American presidence
that it would make Russia think not just twice, but
ten times. But also this kind of has to be
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done with an eye to the fact that we're only
going to have President Trump for a few more years.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We expect it'll be JD after that, et cetera. But
the day could come again where we have another lefty
in the White House, and what does Russia do then
if it against senses weakness in an American president. You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I think that we had a very good conversation with
President Trump, very good and it really was the best one,
or sorry, maybe the best one will be in the future,
but it was really good and we spoke about very
sensitive points. The first one is security guarantees. And we
are very happy it with President that all the leaders
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are here and the security in Ukraine de bands on
the United States and on you, and on those leaders
who are with us in our hearts. They have been
online before yesterday and etc. So a lot of countras
on the side of Ukraine, our people and all of
us want to finish this war, stop Soprssian this war.
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We spoke about it, and we will speak more about
security guarantees. This is very important that the United States
gives such strong signal and is ready for security guarantees.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah. Right, And there's such a clear path right now
to peace right and the only thing that would block
that is Putin insisting on more than he will be
able to get right. And so that's the only question
mark out there right now is will will evil overreach
as evil often does, right, because evil can and always
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does get aroused by weakness. So evil got aroused by
the weakness of Joe Biden and the weakness of the
European capitals. And Evil saw that Biden wouldn't stop Evil
and the European capital would not put boots on the ground.
So Evil went on the march and raped and pillaged Ukraine.
What Evil did not expect is that the Ukrainian people
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would rise up and fight back with such ferocity, and
so Evil was stunned by that, and then we settle
into this mass bloodshed. But now that the outlines of
a deal have become so crystal clear, it's so obvious
that one can be achieved, right, and that is Ukraine
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gets what President Zelenski just referred to. Ukraine gets the
troops on the ground, the NATO troops on the ground
in Ukraine, not under Article five, but essentially the same
thing that it needs to know that it will survive
eighty five percent or so, maybe more, but that it
will survive. Unfortunately, Putin gets a win, and that he
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gets some territory which has real strategic advantage to him
and face saving advantage. Territory he is not entitled to
because he never should have invaded to begin with, but
he will get that. So, yeah, the outlines of a
deal are crystal clear. But again, evil overreaches by nature.
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So if Putin now decides that no, he wants more,
and I think he will do this deal, there will
just be a dance now for a while. But if
Putin does overreach, and it is possible that will happen,
then okay, then it's going to be America coming in
big on the side of Ukraine, Europe upping its contribution.
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I'm not talking about American boots on the ground. That
should not happen, it will not happen, but America coming
in big and the war continuing, but with Ukraine in
a much stronger position. So I think it's very clear
right now, that's what the very immediate future is going
to look like. It's going to go down the road
to peace or evil being what evil is. It's going
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to overreach and try to get too much. Where do
you think it lands? My young friend Ryan, he's thinking
about that deeply.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We asked the question, Daniel, Sorry, yes, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's okay. I know you're very busy back there. Yeah,
is it tic tac totard? What do you guys playing now?
Because I am remote today, But no, no, no, no,
I know you've got so many things to do. I'm
amazed you can keep it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Straight, promost.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But yeah, oh no, that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I was just throwing things at him, well.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
As you should. But Ryan does his great show two
to four in Denver and six point thirty kitch at
w and then helps me at this show, so he
has a ton of his on his plate. But I'll
tell you where I think this ends. Keep it in mind.
I was wrong on Friday. I really thought there was
going to be a ceasefire announcement made Friday. But I
think this will end up better, right because ceasefires are
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easily broken. But I wanted to cease fire Friday. I
wanted that bloodshed to stop. I thought one was wired,
and no, I was wrong about that. But I think
where this ends is I think it ends with the deal.
It's probably gonna be a bit longer dance than we'd
all like right now. But I just think at this
point that knowing the Trump and the deal's going to
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happen because of Trump, right, because he has built up
this credibility. He's not talk, he's action, Yeah, and so
Putin is just going to be very very afraid that
if he doesn't do the deal, Let's try to get
every little nibbley can at the end, right, but that
if he doesn't do the deal, this war is about
to get a lot tougher for them. And you know,
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I think Putin's got some problems at home as well.
I mean, he's a dictator. It's not like he has
to worry about real elections. But he can't be guaranteed,
he can't be guaranteed that someone won't take him out.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I think little Marco actually had a really good point.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Meet the press, Kristen Welker tried to have a gotcha
moment with him on comments that he made right after
the Russian invasion of Ukraine a few years ago, but
he scared that circle quite nicely here on what a
deal would look like to answer your question, and Dan,
and I'm with Marco Rubio on this.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, that's the point.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
That's why the deal has to have enforceable mechanisms in it.
That's why the deal has to have things like security guarantees.
That's the point I was making a few minutes ago,
and you were asking me about looking someone in the eye.
What's important here is actions, not words, not paper document
Those are all important. Those are elements of a deal,
but they have to be enforceable, they have to be verifiable,
they have to be enduring. There's no point here in
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signing a deal that's going to be violated in three
or four months. There's no point in doing that. It
actually would make things worse. So that's why this is such.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
A difficult thing.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Not only do you need a deal, you need a
deal that's verifiable, that's enforceable, and that's enduring. If you
don't achieve that, then I think you could have a
cease fire for a few months, a few weeks, and
then the war will start again and more people will die.
That's not the outcome we're interested in. That's not the
outcome anyone who wants. So that's why this is so difficult.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You see Marco Rubio, you know, just showing that skill
set that hit me so excited about him as a
presidential candidate in sixteen. And the beauty now is that
he's had this time to develop, right, and this job
is helping him get even better and better. So when
his time comes, and I believe it will, I mean,
(25:10):
I think JD. Vance is clearly next in line. But
when Marco Rubio's time comes, I think He's going to
be a phenomenal president and even more effective as Vance
will be because of the way Trump has transformed the landscape, right,
because you think of where this Republican Party was, say
in twenty sixteen before Trump was elected, you know, we
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had you know, the occasional great American Republican president like Reagan,
but the party itself, the party itself was relatively weak
and it wasn't a party of fighters. And Trump has
transformed the GOP into a party of fighters and into
the party of working people. And working people are fighters, right,
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I mean, just out there in the world, working hard
to support your family and and and let them get ahead,
et cetera. So the GOP has been transformed. Its mindset
has been transformed, it's fighting skill set has been transformed.
So now when a JD. Vance or a Marco Rubio,
you know, becomes president, you know, at that point they've
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got a party that that's ready to fight and actually
achieve some things. So so this is this has been
such an enormous transformation and so good for America. So yeah,
it's exciting to watch all this unfold. Three oh three
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D a n five seven seven three nine. Here's what
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I want to do. We've got so much great sound
today right with Selinski at the White House, Komi just
going nuts, like I think, literally, and I want to
get back and MSNBC waving the white flag right and
we'll have that sound for you. So I want to
get out. Now, come back to that getro great Texters,
you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I was talking before the break and all life's so
fast it's hard to appreciate it while it's happening. But
this is kind of a magic moment. I mean, it
doesn't mean puppies and rainbows every minute of the day.
But we're not going to have another president like Trump
probably in our lifetimes. In the opportunity now to reshape
the world in a positive way. I just I hope
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we can fully appreciate what's going on right now. But
you know, which goes to a text that we have Dan,
we don't need to be in Ukraine. We have an
ocean between us. EU needs to step up. Well, amen,
I've been saying from day one, right, I mean, if
Europe wasn't willing to put boots on the ground. Putin
would get land. It was that simple. Putin satan. It's
sick that he's going to get land. But blame Europe.
(27:43):
But we know a deal is going to get done
now in all likelihood, where Putin gets some land, Europe
gets some US troops, European troops, et cetera, ready to
fight and save Ukraine if Russia invades again. And that's
what this deal is going to look like. You know,
as much as I'm sure it bothers you to have
a single American troop in Ukraine. And then the question becomes,
(28:06):
and that's no disrespect to Ukraine. I respect the hell
out of how they fought. And it's because of the
courage and ferocity of the people of Ukraine that they're
going to be able to keep eighty five to ninety
percent of their country. They should get it all back.
I'm just being realistic, and that's due to the weakness
of Joe Biden in Europe. But here's the point in
my mind is I think we do have the US
(28:29):
as a direct vested interest in, you know, an enduring
peace in Ukraine, you know, on terms that show respect
to Ukraine and here's why, because we as a nation,
I think we benefit greatly from a more stable world.
And as long as you have this mass bloodshed continuing
(28:51):
in Ukraine, it's a disruption. It is a disruption in
the functioning of the world, and it's a disruption that
could flare up. It could flare up and go nuclear,
it could flare up in other ways, it could cause
other ripple effects across the world. So in that very
transactional practical sense, we benefit from a piece in Ukraine.
(29:14):
But another thing that I think is enormous, and you've
got to decide how you value it, right, But I
trust you probably do the same way I do. You know,
just what does America stand for? Why does America exist?
How did America come to exist? I'm with the founders
who believed can divine providence. If not for America standing
for good and against evil, the world right now would
(29:38):
be cast into total darkness. Right evil would have won
in World War Two and would have continued to build
from there. So when you see a situation where there's
some abject black and white evil, as what Putin has
done to Ukraine, if the US can help engineer a piece,
a lasting piece, a lasting peace that helps you crane
(30:00):
survive and deprives evil of all that evil wanted, because
evil wanted the whole country. Right then at that point,
I think there's great benefit as well. And I think
there's just great benefit in terms of right and wrong
and in terms of what we stand for, and in
terms of good corralling at the very least evil. And
(30:24):
I know that's not as tangible, but I think it's
really important. So yeah, I think we have a lot
to gain. Now, if you ask me, if it came
down to it, does I mean American troops go and
fight in Ukraine to defeat Russia? No, No, I would
not think that it would be worth that trade off.
But if we're talking about American troops as part of
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a peacekeeping force, you know, with multiple other European countries,
you know, if that's what it takes, as long as
the specifics are are right, yeah, I would support that personally.
I don't know if you would. I think that's going
to be the big discos that's about to occur because
I think that's the nature of the deal that's going
to fall into place. So Ryan, before we play some
(31:08):
of this other hot sound, get a couple of text
any other words of wisdom.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I just go back to what Secretary Rubio said, And
you can't trust Putin as far as you can throw them.
He might say all the right things and then once
he gets into the deal just totally ignore it. But
I don't know that he wants to roll those dice
with President Trump. And Trump needs to show what the
stick looks like compared to the Karat, meaning that he
is willing to clamp down on Russia with some real
painful sanctions that will harm the Russian people. I mean,
(31:35):
just from an economic standpoint, something that Putin will not
be able to withstand. He needs to be able to
show that he's willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I think the stick has been made clear at
this point, right publicly and much more privately. Or I
don't think Putin comes to Alaska on Friday, and I
don't think this thing is headed down the track it's
probably headed toward unless that stick has been on full
display for Putin. And obviously some of that's going to
be done behind the scenes, right because you also have
(32:05):
to allow even evil some face savings sometimes to get
that deal. But here's the tie in. I would suggest
let's play a little bit of that comy. Cut again,
Cut twelve, and I'll tell you the tie in. I
think to the Russia deal. We can't stop people from
being jerks.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
What we can do is stop it from hurting us,
from changing us. At my second Taylor Swift concert in Hartford, Connecticut,
fourteen years ago this summer.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And it goes about this, and we played the whole
clip earlier. Change Comy just looked like a nutsjob there, right,
Trump breaks people. He breaks people. I'm not saying he's
breaking Putin. That's not my point. But Putin at this
point has seen Trump accomplish so many things in the
face of impossible odds, be so strong, so strong willed,
(32:57):
so tough Trump, you know, defeating an assassin. Well, I
think with divine intervention, Trump following through with Iran, etc.
I think at this point, yeah, I think that Putin
has been convinced that he should not mess with Donald Trump.
And that's going to be far and away. You know,
(33:18):
what gets an enduring peace deal done doesn't guarantee peace
for one hundred years, but it guarantees a lot of
lives are going to be saved, a lot of innocent
lives in Ukraine and a lot of lives are going
to be saved. Ryan, thank you doctor Matt Dunn in tomorrow.
If you haven't heard Matt before, he's a great conservative,
very very good on air. He'll have the show tomorrow
(33:39):
as I continue my trial prep and get ready for
this month on trial that's coming up, about a month
long Bryan think if you're the best Kelly human Sunshine,
enjoy your evening and please be back here tomorrow at
four h six on The Dan Kapla Show.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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(00:20):
justice in the American way. She's one of these women,
private people, just doing Cora requests, contributing to do better Denver.
When she gets outed by the Denver Post, she asks
them not to publish her name. She's got kids, she's
a stay at home mom. And he said, no, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna do it because you're a
partial public figure. Their expert said, by the way, a
(00:41):
made up term. You're a partial public figure because you're
doing CORA request and submitting to do better Denver. What
utter nonsense. And I think just my constitutionally protected opinion,
just a blatant at intimidation. So hope everybody goes out
there now. If you don't already follow do Better Denver
on X, go follow them right now and follow them
(01:03):
on Instagram as well, so let their power grow. I'm
not saying they're perfect. There's never been a perfect human
endeavor of any kind anywhere. But I think this crowd sourcing,
where people can get the truth out there about the
rapid decline of Denver, it's the best chance Denver has
to improve. So I think it's great service. Three all
three seven one three A two five five the number
(01:25):
text d an five seven seven three nine. Glad you
are here. Historic day two. These days, man, like, every
day's interesting, right, but these days they've just really got
a jazz. You. You've got Trump, just the power, and
think about it. I know life's so fast, right, it's
hard for us to slow down sometimes and appreciate these
(01:45):
amazing moments we're living through. But we're not going to
see a presidency like this again for a long time.
You know. I flashed back to and I was just
a little critter. I was six years old, you know,
when when John Kennedy was killed and I was home
from school watching Boso Circus and the breaking news in
(02:06):
those days, breaking news meant something seismic and heard it
went in to tell my mom. She broke down crying,
and I remember as a six year old. This is
the point of the story. As a six year old,
I said to her, there's never going to be another
president like Kennedy, says a six year old, I could
somehow understand what was very very true, and we didn't
(02:28):
have another presidency like Kennedy's right, same thing as true
of Trump. I mean, this is what we're watching right
now is kind of magical. I mean, we know the origins, right,
we know how we got to this point and why
he now has this ability to shape and influence world
events that he has, and a lot of it is
what he achieved in the past and what he overcame.
(02:48):
But bottom line is, we're not likely no matter how old.
You can be a newborn right and the first thing
your parents are having you listen to outside the womb
is this show. Or you could be one hundred and twenty,
you could be Joe Biden like and everybody in between.
Nobody alive right now I think is likely to see
a presidency like this again, and so I just want
(03:11):
to try to savor it. It doesn't mean it's going
to be perfect or a straight line up, but I
don't think we're going to see one like this again
in our lifetime, and the opportunity nothing's guaranteed. Right, everything
can go south, but everything can go north too, And
let's trademark that Ryan, We could sell those shirts, right,
So the opportunity we'll claim copyright right now is vast,
(03:35):
and Trump is at least putting the world in a
position to win. So I do want to get to
some of that Zelensky sound from today, as well as
everything surrounding it. But before we go there, we've got
to go to maybe my favorite bite of the day now,
James Comy talking about Taylor Swift. Nothing can top that
(03:57):
cut nine. Please Joe Scarborough announce a name change.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We will become MS now, which stands from my source
for news, opinion and the world. And look, Andrew, they
even have a graphic up.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I like it. It looks very sporty. So you know
you're in trouble when NBC doesn't want to be associated
with you anymore. But that aside, Yeah, when they have
to change their name, that's the biggest white flag you
can get. It's kind of like the abortion movement, right
when they had to drop the word abortion. Yeah, that's
(04:35):
the clearest message you can send that you're losing that
you now have to hide who you really are to win.
You know, that's why the abortion movement could no longer
be National Abortion Rights Action League, you know. Now they've
got to be reproductive this or cobalt or whatever, anything
but abortion right because everybody knows abortion is wrong. And
(04:58):
so yeah, so this NBC has to change your name.
That's another great sign. So I've got to ask you,
And if I was in studio, I'm remote, I would
just press the button I have in there for this.
But are you tired of winning yet? Ryan? Can you
dig that up and play it a couple of times
at whatever time you deem appropriate because it is probably
(05:18):
our favorite Trump liner. Oh did somebody take it down
if they hired a liberal there?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But a lot of Polists, a.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Lot of oh wait, probably too much of that, right
though some of it we can never let go. So
I want to play this President. I want to play
this President Selensky bite because I think it goes right
to the heart of what's really going on here. So uh,
let's go to this trilateral bite. Cut their team, please, President.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Are you prepared to keep any and truths to their
desks for another couple of years?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Or are you going to redraws? Thank you for your questions.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
So, first of all, you know we live under each
day at tax.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know that today have been at a.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Lot of tests and a lot of wounded people.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And the child was that small one one one year
and a half.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
So we need to stop this world, to stop Russia,
and we need support American and European partners.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
We will do our best for this.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So and I think we show that we are strong
people and we supported the idea of the United States
of personal President Trump to stop this work, to make
a diplomatic way of finishing this war. And we are
ready for trilateral Ask presidents this is a good thing
about I think this is very good.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Thank you. Yeah, boy, the trilateral thing is key, right
because if you're President's Lensky, then yeah, you want Trump
at the table. You wanted to be putent. You wanted
to be Trump and Zelensky. Because Trump is the power.
Trump is what changes the playing field. It's what changes
(07:09):
the battlefield. Trump is what changes the balance. If you've
got a teeter totter there, right, Trump just brings it
down hard on one side. And that's what it's going
to take. Right now, to get a deal done, and
there's no guarantee that'll get the deal done, right, But
I've got to believe that all the behind the scene
stuff that led up to last Friday and today, etc.
(07:31):
That there's strong reason to believe that Putin will go
ahead and do a deal if he gets the land
he wants, the concessions he wants, and that the reason
he would do that deal is because the alternative is
vastly increased American support for Ukraine and the war effort
in a much longer war with a much stronger Ukraine. Right,
(07:54):
Clearly that picture has now been painted for Putin, and
then in terms of US security guarantee in Ukraine, I
don't think the Trump administration's trying to sugarcoat it at
this point. I think they've been pretty clear that there
would be a very strong US military presence and that
if Putin violated the agreement, there would be American troops there. Now,
(08:17):
you tell me, I'm really anxious to hear three or
three seven one three A two five five text DN
five seven seven three nine. Would you support a deal
like that that put American troops in a position where
if Russia invaded again, Because that's what it would be.
It wouldn't be violating a ceasefire. No, it would be
another invasion because there would have been a treaty, there
(08:39):
would have been these new borders. It would be an invasion.
So essentially we may be in a position and it's
way too early to conclude that, right. We haven't seen
anything writing. You know, the President hasn't told us what
the extent of American military support would be. But if
it's a scenario where yeah, if there's another invasion, US
troops are going to be there to help protect Ukraine,
(09:01):
are you okay with that? Three oh three seven one
three A two five five text d A N five
seven seven three nine Dan, why not post names and
images and home addresses of the entire Denver Post newsroom?
That is the standard they have now set? No, No, never, never,
And I don't believe that's the standard the Post is set.
(09:24):
I think that what the Post did was one of
the worst things I've ever seen in journalism in Colorado.
My own constitutionally protected opinion. I believe it was done
to try to intimidate our guest, Jill and others out
of contributing to do better Denver because it's a very
bad look, right for the lefties who controlled this state.
(09:48):
And it's yeah, I think that's what's going on here.
But no, no, in my view, two wrongs never ever
make a right, And no, I would not support it.
And that's one of the reasons I've been so critical
of what the Post did and still so disbelieving they
even did it, because they know, they know that there
are so many more nuts out there right now, so
(10:09):
many more nuts who might get violent quickly, you know,
motivated by this this, you know, the voices they hear
in their head whatever to act politically, and so they
know journalists are so much more of a target. And
and there's are so many on the left, you know,
the left, not the Post, but the left. You know,
(10:29):
violence is part of their playbook. Politics of personal destruction,
big part of their playbook. But violence, I mean, you know,
look at the way many on the left have encouraged,
you know, rampant violence across the country, say example, during
the looting following George Floyd's death. So the Post knows
how dangerous the increased level of danger out there now
(10:51):
for some journalist, and yet the Post is now subjecting
this woman our guest and other private people did this
just because they submit to do better. Denver So no
two wrongs like that, in my view, would never ever
make a right three or three someone three eight, two, five, five.
(11:14):
Let me. I don't have time for darn it. I
promise I'll start on the other side. One of the
strangest things you have ever heard, James Comey releases this
five minute video and part of it he's talking about
Taylor Swift. Was he impaired in this video? Why do
you think he did it? You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
There have been some absolutely major shifts. The idea that
Ukraine's going to achieve complete victory, that i.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
GEA has collapsed within Ukrainian society.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
What are we talking about here, Ukrainians on the war
versus Russia. You go back to twenty twenty two, to
the start of.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
The war, fight until Ukraine wins.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
Look at this, the vast majority, about three quarters seventy
three percent agreed with that possession negotiate to end the
war as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Only twenty two percent. Look at where we are now.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
It's a complete flip it's the inverse. Now, sixty nine
percent want to negotiate to end the war as soon
as possible, compared to just twenty four percent who want
to fight until Ukraine wins. That's a forty nine point
drop in this position. Now, of course, negotiating to end
the war as soon as possible, that's a bit more nuanced, Right,
Ukrainians don't want to agree to rush all of Russia's demand.
But I think the idea of even there being some
(12:20):
territory that would be not formally recognized as being given
that Russia could in fact stay, and that does have
a majority sport, But the idea of formal recognition of
Russia's man absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, and I'd say don't overread that poll right, for
the reasons he alluded to at the end. Yeah, the
idea that you're going to defeat Russia. Yeah, I mean
Ukrainians are smart people, right, Any smart person can see
that isn't going to happen because Europe was unwilling to
put boots on the ground. So defeating Russia that isn't
going to happen. Now, will it be a victory of
(12:53):
historic proportions for Ukraine now to survive you know, eighty
five percent in deck. Yeah, it will be because think
of what they were facing. Joe Biden was handing the
victory to Putin. Joe Biden offered to get Zelensky out
of the country in the first twenty four hours. That
would have handed victory to Putin. Remember all those Russian tanks,
(13:14):
the entire Russian army ready to move into Kiev just
twenty five miles down the road. And yeah, so the
fact that Ukraine will survive largely in fact, that's going
to be what an enormous credit to the people of Ukraine. Now,
the fact that Satan Putin gets even an inch of
Ukrainian territory, that's sick. But don't blame Trump. Don't blame Trump.
(13:36):
You know, blame Biden for his weakness, blame Europe for
not putting boots on the ground to support Ukraine. But
don't blame Trump. He's just trying to be a peacemaker
and salvage the best deal he can for Ukraine. And
people say, all, like John Bolton, we played that, Oh
he wants a Nobel Peace Prize. What's wrong with that? Right?
I mean, every single human other than Jesus Christ himself
(13:58):
had some mixed motives, you know, and Jesus, obviously divine,
had some mixed motives. And so there is nothing wrong
with somebody who's out there trying to make peace and
do the right thing. Also think it'd be nice to
get the Nobel Peace Prize. Nothing wrong with that. But literally,
other than God himself, yeah, God himself, when he was
(14:19):
both human and divine, there's never been a human, I think,
who didn't have at least some mixed motive. Now, that
may be unfair. You look at somebody like Pope, John Paul,
the Great Mother Teresa, some others. Yeah, I'm sure there
were some who didn't have that, but the vast majority
do and I have no problem with that. As long
as their heart is in doing the right thing, and
(14:39):
they do the right thing, if they can do well
by doing good, I got no problem with that. Three
or three sevene three eight two five five The number
one numbskull. We were very lucky to survive is James
call me. And I remember a point in time many
years ago where I respected him and I thought, hey,
you know, that's a great lawman there. That was shallow
(15:00):
thinking on my part. But now you know, Trump helped
to expose him, and I think, as I said at
the time, I'm proud of saying it at the time
because very few were that was a coup attempt during
that first term to take down the president. Komy was
right at the center of it. But I think he's
confirmed now that he's just kind of gone nuts. Cut twelve. Please,
(15:23):
maybe he's been nuts.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
I bet you got pushed around. Somebody made you cold.
But the cycle ends right now because you can't leave
me down that road.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You'll be glad I didn't sing that.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
That's right because down that road is unhappiness. Nobody should
have that power over us. Thank you, Taylor Swift. Keep
the faith short. Yeah that is the shorter version. Yeah,
it's even weirder than that. We'll play some more of
it later. But one of the questions I have for
you is, why do you think he did this?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I know we had a texter who said, it's, you know,
proof of life Dan theory. I saw Comy's read video
about Taylor Swift might have been proof of life. Also,
since he's under investigation, normal communication is not possible with
his co conspirators, so this video it's coded messages for
certain people I'm not part of that theory. But why
(16:19):
do you think he did do it? Is he trying
to set up an incompetence defense if they charge him.
That's a joke, by the way, But why do you
think he did this? Do you have a theory? Ryan?
It's one of the stranger things in a while.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I think he's just starving for relevance. You remember the
seashells on the shore and yeah, claimed he just happened
upon that formation.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You know it's the Madonna posing naked with animals.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh, yes, very much though, right when she.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Reached that point, anything to stay in the public eye,
and then it just got weirder and weirder, no question
about it. But anxious hear from folks say, if this
Ukraine deal depends on US troops ready to help protect
Ukraine if Russia invades again, we would you support that?
Three H three seven one three A two five five
(17:07):
the number? How about you there, young Ryan? Would you
support that?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
There would have to be an imminent threat or danger
to our installation somewhere in the world. I don't think
Russia's stupid enough to draw US, the United States into
a fight on Ukraine's behalf, but It's what President Trump
has been saying, It's what you've been saying.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Now, this is Europe's war. They need to step up.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We stepped up for them in kind of a big
way in World War Two and bailed them out and
saved the continent. It's time for them to pay the piper,
and it's time for them to put their money with
their mouth. This.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, and I expect that's what this deal will look
like in the end, is that most of the security guarantee,
any troops right in Ukraine, you know, will be European.
There'll be some American presidence, enough of an American presidence
that it would make Russia think not just twice, but
ten times. But also this kind of has to be
(18:00):
done with an eye to the fact that we're only
going to have President Trump for a few more years.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We expect it'll be JD after that, et cetera. But
the day could come again where we have another lefty
in the White House, and what does Russia do then
if it against senses weakness in an American president. You're
on the Dan Capitla Show.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I think that we had a very good conversation with
President Trump, very good and it really was the best one,
or sorry, maybe the best one will be in the future,
but it was really good and we spoke about very
sensitive points. The first one is security guarantees. And we
are very happy it with President that all the leaders
(18:48):
are here and the security in Ukraine de bands on
the United States and on you, and on those leaders
who are with us in our hearts. They have been
online before yesterday and etc. So a lot of countras
on the side of Ukraine, our people and all of
us want to finish this war, stop Soprssian this war.
(19:10):
We spoke about it, and we will speak more about
security guarantees. This is very important that the United States
gives such strong signal and is ready for security guarantees.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah. Right, And there's such a clear path right now
to peace right and the only thing that would block
that is Putin insisting on more than he will be
able to get right. And so that's the only question
mark out there right now is will will evil overreach
as evil often does, right, because evil can and always
(19:47):
does get aroused by weakness. So evil got aroused by
the weakness of Joe Biden and the weakness of the
European capitals. And Evil saw that Biden wouldn't stop Evil
and the European capital would not put boots on the ground.
So Evil went on the march and raped and pillaged Ukraine.
What Evil did not expect is that the Ukrainian people
(20:09):
would rise up and fight back with such ferocity, and
so Evil was stunned by that, and then we settle
into this mass bloodshed. But now that the outlines of
a deal have become so crystal clear, it's so obvious
that one can be achieved, right, and that is Ukraine
(20:30):
gets what President Zelenski just referred to. Ukraine gets the
troops on the ground, the NATO troops on the ground
in Ukraine, not under Article five, but essentially the same
thing that it needs to know that it will survive
eighty five percent or so, maybe more, but that it
will survive. Unfortunately, Putin gets a win, and that he
(20:54):
gets some territory which has real strategic advantage to him
and face saving advantage. Territory he is not entitled to
because he never should have invaded to begin with, but
he will get that. So, yeah, the outlines of a
deal are crystal clear. But again, evil overreaches by nature.
(21:15):
So if Putin now decides that no, he wants more,
and I think he will do this deal, there will
just be a dance now for a while. But if
Putin does overreach, and it is possible that will happen,
then okay, then it's going to be America coming in
big on the side of Ukraine, Europe upping its contribution.
(21:35):
I'm not talking about American boots on the ground. That
should not happen, it will not happen, but America coming
in big and the war continuing, but with Ukraine in
a much stronger position. So I think it's very clear
right now, that's what the very immediate future is going
to look like. It's going to go down the road
to peace or evil being what evil is. It's going
(21:57):
to overreach and try to get too much. Where do
you think it lands? My young friend Ryan, he's thinking
about that deeply.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
We asked the question, Daniel, Sorry, yes, oh, oh.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's okay. I know you're very busy back there. Yeah,
is it tic tac totard? What do you guys playing now?
Because I am remote today, But no, no, no, no,
I know you've got so many things to do. I'm
amazed you can keep it.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Straight, promost.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But yeah, oh no, that's right.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I was just throwing things at him, well.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
As you should. But Ryan does his great show two
to four in Denver and six point thirty kitch at
w and then helps me at this show, so he
has a ton of his on his plate. But I'll
tell you where I think this ends. Keep it in mind.
I was wrong on Friday. I really thought there was
going to be a ceasefire announcement made Friday. But I
think this will end up better, right because ceasefires are
(22:47):
easily broken. But I wanted to cease fire Friday. I
wanted that bloodshed to stop. I thought one was wired,
and no, I was wrong about that. But I think
where this ends is I think it ends with the deal.
It's probably gonna be a bit longer dance than we'd
all like right now. But I just think at this
point that knowing the Trump and the deal's going to
(23:10):
happen because of Trump, right, because he has built up
this credibility. He's not talk, he's action, Yeah, and so
Putin is just going to be very very afraid that
if he doesn't do the deal, Let's try to get
every little nibbley can at the end, right, but that
if he doesn't do the deal, this war is about
to get a lot tougher for them. And you know,
(23:32):
I think Putin's got some problems at home as well.
I mean, he's a dictator. It's not like he has
to worry about real elections. But he can't be guaranteed,
he can't be guaranteed that someone won't take him out.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I think little Marco actually had a really good point.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Meet the press, Kristen Welker tried to have a gotcha
moment with him on comments that he made right after
the Russian invasion of Ukraine a few years ago, but
he scared that circle quite nicely here on what a
deal would look like to answer your question, and Dan,
and I'm with Marco Rubio on this.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, that's the point.
Speaker 9 (24:02):
That's why the deal has to have enforceable mechanisms in it.
That's why the deal has to have things like security guarantees.
That's the point I was making a few minutes ago,
and you were asking me about looking someone in the eye.
What's important here is actions, not words, not paper document
Those are all important. Those are elements of a deal,
but they have to be enforceable, they have to be verifiable,
they have to be enduring. There's no point here in
(24:23):
signing a deal that's going to be violated in three
or four months. There's no point in doing that. It
actually would make things worse. So that's why this is such.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
A difficult thing.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
Not only do you need a deal, you need a
deal that's verifiable, that's enforceable, and that's enduring. If you
don't achieve that, then I think you could have a
cease fire for a few months, a few weeks, and
then the war will start again and more people will die.
That's not the outcome we're interested in. That's not the
outcome anyone who wants. So that's why this is so difficult.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
You see Marco Rubio, you know, just showing that skill
set that hit me so excited about him as a
presidential candidate in sixteen. And the beauty now is that
he's had this time to develop, right, and this job
is helping him get even better and better. So when
his time comes, and I believe it will, I mean,
(25:10):
I think JD. Vance is clearly next in line. But
when Marco Rubio's time comes, I think He's going to
be a phenomenal president and even more effective as Vance
will be because of the way Trump has transformed the landscape, right,
because you think of where this Republican Party was, say
in twenty sixteen before Trump was elected, you know, we
(25:32):
had you know, the occasional great American Republican president like Reagan,
but the party itself, the party itself was relatively weak
and it wasn't a party of fighters. And Trump has
transformed the GOP into a party of fighters and into
the party of working people. And working people are fighters, right,
(25:55):
I mean, just out there in the world, working hard
to support your family and and and let them get ahead,
et cetera. So the GOP has been transformed. Its mindset
has been transformed, it's fighting skill set has been transformed.
So now when a JD. Vance or a Marco Rubio,
you know, becomes president, you know, at that point they've
(26:18):
got a party that that's ready to fight and actually
achieve some things. So so this is this has been
such an enormous transformation and so good for America. So yeah,
it's exciting to watch all this unfold. Three oh three
seven one three A two five five The number text
D a n five seven seven three nine. Here's what
(26:38):
I want to do. We've got so much great sound
today right with Selinski at the White House, Komi just
going nuts, like I think, literally, and I want to
get back and MSNBC waving the white flag right and
we'll have that sound for you. So I want to
get out. Now, come back to that getro great Texters,
you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I was talking before the break and all life's so
fast it's hard to appreciate it while it's happening. But
this is kind of a magic moment. I mean, it
doesn't mean puppies and rainbows every minute of the day.
But we're not going to have another president like Trump
probably in our lifetimes. In the opportunity now to reshape
the world in a positive way. I just I hope
(27:23):
we can fully appreciate what's going on right now. But
you know, which goes to a text that we have Dan,
we don't need to be in Ukraine. We have an
ocean between us. EU needs to step up. Well, amen,
I've been saying from day one, right, I mean, if
Europe wasn't willing to put boots on the ground. Putin
would get land. It was that simple. Putin satan. It's
sick that he's going to get land. But blame Europe.
(27:43):
But we know a deal is going to get done
now in all likelihood, where Putin gets some land, Europe
gets some US troops, European troops, et cetera, ready to
fight and save Ukraine if Russia invades again. And that's
what this deal is going to look like. You know,
as much as I'm sure it bothers you to have
a single American troop in Ukraine. And then the question becomes,
(28:06):
and that's no disrespect to Ukraine. I respect the hell
out of how they fought. And it's because of the
courage and ferocity of the people of Ukraine that they're
going to be able to keep eighty five to ninety
percent of their country. They should get it all back.
I'm just being realistic, and that's due to the weakness
of Joe Biden in Europe. But here's the point in
my mind is I think we do have the US
(28:29):
as a direct vested interest in, you know, an enduring
peace in Ukraine, you know, on terms that show respect
to Ukraine and here's why, because we as a nation,
I think we benefit greatly from a more stable world.
And as long as you have this mass bloodshed continuing
(28:51):
in Ukraine, it's a disruption. It is a disruption in
the functioning of the world, and it's a disruption that
could flare up. It could flare up and go nuclear,
it could flare up in other ways, it could cause
other ripple effects across the world. So in that very
transactional practical sense, we benefit from a piece in Ukraine.
(29:14):
But another thing that I think is enormous, and you've
got to decide how you value it, right, But I
trust you probably do the same way I do. You know,
just what does America stand for? Why does America exist?
How did America come to exist? I'm with the founders
who believed can divine providence. If not for America standing
for good and against evil, the world right now would
(29:38):
be cast into total darkness. Right evil would have won
in World War Two and would have continued to build
from there. So when you see a situation where there's
some abject black and white evil, as what Putin has
done to Ukraine, if the US can help engineer a piece,
a lasting piece, a lasting peace that helps you crane
(30:00):
survive and deprives evil of all that evil wanted, because
evil wanted the whole country. Right then at that point,
I think there's great benefit as well. And I think
there's just great benefit in terms of right and wrong
and in terms of what we stand for, and in
terms of good corralling at the very least evil. And
(30:24):
I know that's not as tangible, but I think it's
really important. So yeah, I think we have a lot
to gain. Now, if you ask me, if it came
down to it, does I mean American troops go and
fight in Ukraine to defeat Russia? No, No, I would
not think that it would be worth that trade off.
But if we're talking about American troops as part of
(30:45):
a peacekeeping force, you know, with multiple other European countries,
you know, if that's what it takes, as long as
the specifics are are right, yeah, I would support that personally.
I don't know if you would. I think that's going
to be the big discos that's about to occur because
I think that's the nature of the deal that's going
to fall into place. So Ryan, before we play some
(31:08):
of this other hot sound, get a couple of text
any other words of wisdom.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I just go back to what Secretary Rubio said, And
you can't trust Putin as far as you can throw them.
He might say all the right things and then once
he gets into the deal just totally ignore it. But
I don't know that he wants to roll those dice
with President Trump. And Trump needs to show what the
stick looks like compared to the Karat, meaning that he
is willing to clamp down on Russia with some real
painful sanctions that will harm the Russian people. I mean,
(31:35):
just from an economic standpoint, something that Putin will not
be able to withstand. He needs to be able to
show that he's willing to do that.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I think the stick has been made clear at
this point, right publicly and much more privately. Or I
don't think Putin comes to Alaska on Friday, and I
don't think this thing is headed down the track it's
probably headed toward unless that stick has been on full
display for Putin. And obviously some of that's going to
be done behind the scenes, right because you also have
(32:05):
to allow even evil some face savings sometimes to get
that deal. But here's the tie in. I would suggest
let's play a little bit of that comy. Cut again,
Cut twelve, and I'll tell you the tie in. I
think to the Russia deal. We can't stop people from
being jerks.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
What we can do is stop it from hurting us,
from changing us. At my second Taylor Swift concert in Hartford, Connecticut,
fourteen years ago this summer.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And it goes about this, and we played the whole
clip earlier. Change Comy just looked like a nutsjob there, right,
Trump breaks people. He breaks people. I'm not saying he's
breaking Putin. That's not my point. But Putin at this
point has seen Trump accomplish so many things in the
face of impossible odds, be so strong, so strong willed,
(32:57):
so tough Trump, you know, defeating an assassin. Well, I
think with divine intervention, Trump following through with Iran, etc.
I think at this point, yeah, I think that Putin
has been convinced that he should not mess with Donald Trump.
And that's going to be far and away. You know,
(33:18):
what gets an enduring peace deal done doesn't guarantee peace
for one hundred years, but it guarantees a lot of
lives are going to be saved, a lot of innocent
lives in Ukraine and a lot of lives are going
to be saved. Ryan, thank you doctor Matt Dunn in tomorrow.
If you haven't heard Matt before, he's a great conservative,
very very good on air. He'll have the show tomorrow
(33:39):
as I continue my trial prep and get ready for
this month on trial that's coming up, about a month
long Bryan think if you're the best Kelly human Sunshine,
enjoy your evening and please be back here tomorrow at
four h six on The Dan Kapla Show.
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