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June 26, 2025 36 mins
Zohran Mamdani winning the mayoral primary in New York City tells us a lot about the current state of the Democratic party in America, Dan outlines the details.

Hilary Fordwich joins with her analysis on the booming Trump economy after initial concerns about his tariffs on international trade.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaples, and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Are you winning
so much you're going to get tired of winning? Hopefully
not three?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Or three?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Someone three A two five five the number text d
an five seven seven three nine? How do you imagine that?
Isn't it getting tired of winning? I understand it's a
kind of human nature that we can get spoiled, we
can take a lot for granted, I think that's you know,
most of us do that all the time, right, and
we fight against it. But I'm talking about getting tired
of flat out winning big wins. And I opened the

(00:40):
show yesterday talking about everything there was to celebrate and
doing the same thing again today. I hope that does
not get monotonous, but I think we can expect a
lot more of this. It's not a straight line up again,
that's not the human condition, but it's a much more,
much more of an upward trend than we've seen during.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Biden, Obama, etc. So this is fun stuff. Today. One
of the.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Highlights, certainly a big important one, is the US Supreme
Court getting it right. Says now, the state of South Carolina,
they don't want to use taxpayer funds to fund the
killing of humans, and they don't have to. So good
to see the Supreme Court in Medina v. Planned Parenthood
come down with that opinion. Now, if you want to
deep dive the opinion, I'm happy to do that. It

(01:25):
gets a little tough, particularly when you're behind the wheel.
But the way a Gorsach authored opinion, the way the
Supreme Court got there was through a standing type of issue.
In other words, what they said is, hey, the planned
Parenthood and the Planned Parenthood patron who sued can't do

(01:49):
that because federal civil rights law doesn't allow a direct
action for this particular statute. So see, like I promised you, right,
gets technical, but bottom line is, yeah, now if a
state wants to say, yeah, you know what I heard,
our taxpayer money, we're not going to use it to
kill people.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, they don't have to.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So great news there, three or three someone three eight
two five five text d an five seven seven three nine.
So you know, the arc of history bending toward justice.
I do believe that. Personally, I just believe that the
way we were created, that we're given this free will right,
but we're given the.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Chance to get it right.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I believe that the vast majority of people are are
basically good, and so we're going to keep moving in
that good direction. And then you need the occasional heroes,
right from all walks of life, all all two genders,
et cetera. You need the occasional heroes to step up
and accelerate things. But it's going to bend that way,
and every now and then you have to overcome some

(02:51):
real monsters, whether they're individual monsters or whether they're policy monsters.
Every now and then just have to rally the troops
and overcome those horrible things. And that's certainly been the
pattern in American We're in the process right now of
overcoming this scourge of legalized killing that has killed so many,

(03:12):
taking so many innocent lives before birth. But we're in
the process of overcoming that. Not an easy fight. It's
a long fight. It's never going to be completely won.
But if that was the standard, well then we've never
had any success in America, and lord knows, we've had
a lot so great news to start the show. Three
h three someone three eight two five five. The number
takes d A and five seven seven three nine. I

(03:35):
thought of Ryan showing today as I was thinking about
the show and thinking about stuff on my mind, and
with the Bezos wedding going on, you know, it just
crossed my mind how much is too much for a wedding?
And you can talk in dollar terms, or you can
talk about different elements, but what kind of stuff is
just too extravagant and very much on my mind for

(03:57):
two reasons so well. Three one is the whole Bezos thing,
which is so far over the top, right, it's it's
just entertainment. But the other is I was at this
fantastic wedding in Milwaukee last weekend for my nephew, who
you know, I tried a case with used to be
with their law firm, and then and then our anniversary
is coming up and we had a heck of a wedding.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
So it just got me thinking how much is too much?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So if you have thoughts on that three O three
seven three eight two five five the number, don't get
the wrong idea. I'm not planning on another wedding. I've
I've just been happy as an absolute clam during our
thirty one years?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Where does that scene come from? Ryan?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And I guess I shouldn't count chickens since thirty one
doesn't hit till July third, And that's still true? Is
that a week from today? Yeah, I'll start the celebration early.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It should be a festival it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Have you ever considered like renewing your valves, just doing
something kind of cool and special along those lines?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I think we do that every week.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think, well, that's good. Sometimes how much is too much?
I think depends on the the individual, the couple. But
I would put it quite simply this way. If you
have to go into debt to finance it, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
If you can't stave it up enough for the one
that you want, and do the one that you can.
And as happy as a clam, I don't know. I
always interpreted that as the clam like when it's shut,
it has like a smile kind of baked into it,
pun intended.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
I'm gonna look that up right now, But I think Rob,
you would be really good, like on trivia ball or something.
Happy as a clam origin because that's a pretty darn.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Good guess that's my guess. Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Likely originates from the longer idiom happy as a clam
at high water, ah suggests clams are safe and content
when the tide is high and are less vulnerable to
being dug up by humans. I'm telling you that's sane
as a real stretch, because who can measure the brain
power of a clam? Did I send you that thing
off Twitter? On the IQ of Different Living Things? No,

(05:55):
I wish I'll pull that up. I'll do that in
the next segment. It's absolutely fascinating. I know it has
to be accurate because it's on Twitter. It seemed roughly accurate.
But comparing everything, they didn't have a clam, but everything
from like a I think they had a snail all
the way up to a human. Fascinating. What what would
your first guest be as to the smartest creature other

(06:15):
than humans?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Chimpanzee?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think you're right, I'll pull it up. How about
the second smartest other than humans?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Gorilla?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
All those primates, the fun ones in the primate of
the primate category?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
What's the smartest thing out there besides us?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think maybe a horse?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Good guess, pig? Yeah, pigs are smart, smart, they get
credit for pigs.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
And then we went through that fad of everybody having
pet pigs, did you We did not. I didn't see
any redeeming value there. Plus would make me feel really
guilty eating bacon.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well what if Caroline looked up to you with those
teary eyes and said, Dad, can I please have a
pet pig?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Come on? You melt be the easiest knowing my life?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, easiest know my life? Oh come on, but I
do remember the day. I do remember the day she
just brought this dog home from the pet store.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Uh huh yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You could tell she was so She felt so bad
because she hadn't asked us, and she'd work hard with
her babysitting, money and everything else. And that was just
one of those parenting moments.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
You know, what do you do? What did you do?
I said, you can keep it? But you melted?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, no, no handled it.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I thought we both did pretty well with it, because
you know, it would not have fit into the family
life or home at that point. I can't even count
the number of living things that wander through our house
on any given day. Speaking of which, the way my
day started, all right, two thirty in the morning, getting up,
starting work, you know, And because I had to be
up so early, I slept in a separate bed.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I didn't want to wake everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
So I'm walking into our bedroom and the first thing
I do is trip over one of the dogs. Okay,
so down goes Dan, which no fighter had ever been
able to accomplish.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Wow, but the dog did.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
So I get up, dust myself off, take about three steps,
and then slam my head into the bathroom door. Because
I didn't want to wake her up, I didn't have
my cell phone with me to light the way. So
dog takes me down and then slam my head against
the bathroom door.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I was wide awake at that point.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
You were wide awake, my vocabulary fully fully fired up.
Three or three someone three eight two five five the
number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
The rest of the day, though, how do you think
the rest of the day went after those back to
back set back.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Well, it could only go up from there.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Then.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It actually has been a phenomenal day, like a pendulum,
a phenomenal day. And it was funny because when those
two things happened, I didn't think, all right, this is
going to be one of those challenging days.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
I didn't feel that way at all.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I just thought, okay, now I'm awake, and yeah, it's
been a tremendous day. Good three out three someone three
eight two five five text d A N five seven
seven nine. We have a lot of ground to cover
when we get back, but jump on any of those
if you'd like. And then I want to play some
sound from the the Nightmare, the Democratic Party's Nightmare. Right

(09:11):
now this guy's about to be mayor of New York
and is becoming the face of the Democratic Party across America.
And come back to a couple of quotes of his
And the reason I want is first the entertainment value,
but also get your take on this.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
How would you respond to this?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
And I also want you to hear that the appeal,
the superficial appeal, this has to, you know, three or
four segments of the population, including some well intentioned, particularly
younger folks who just don't have a lot of experience
who haven't thought things through thoroughly, and then not well
intentioned younger and older folks, and then some folks may

(09:51):
be older who are just desperate at this point financially
because you know, they've they've had some adversity, et cetera,
and income redistribution, they think maybe their only chance. So
that's why I'm saying the socialists slash communist they will
not prevail in the end.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's not who we are.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
But you can't just laugh them off right now, because
I mean, look how many of one in Colorado? And
this guy's about to be mayor of New York here
on the Dan Kapler Show.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
I will admit to not being like a huge student
of New York City politics, but I think that what
I can take from it, the message that came across
a lot and clear, I guess to me was number one,
people just like in November, are still really focused on
costs in the economy and their own kitchen table math,

(10:43):
and they're looking for a new generation of leadership.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Those were to me.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
The two that's Alyssa Slatkin talking about the anti Semitic
commedy nutjob who apparently is on track to be the.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Next mayor in New York.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And I know a lot of smart people are saying
now Eric Adams is going to run as a new
dependent and beat them.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But don't be so sure.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
And I'm just not basing it on the polls right
now that say Adams will lose. But a lot of
things going on here Adams is damaged goods and once
you get that energy going and a lot of it misplaced,
but a lot of it from people who want socialism
in this country. It'd be absolutely naive to sit here
and think that we didn't have a large chunk of

(11:23):
people in this country want socialism. But it's not the
people who the elitists think it is right. Because as
a kidder grew up in the wealthiest family in America,
my dad a cop, and my mom stayed.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Home with us.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I know how these lefties, how these elitists look at me,
look at our family, look at all of us. They
look down on us, they always have. And what they
think is that we working people. They think that we
are jealous of those people out there with money that
we want we want the government to take their money
and give it to us, or we want those people
to fail. And that's why the left is failing so

(11:58):
dramatically most places, is in America.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's part of.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
It is they just completely misunderstand working people. And misunderstand
people of faith and misunderstand the fact that the vast
majority of working people are people of faith, and so
they just don't get it. But you do have this
big chunk of people who want socialism, and those tend
to be a lot of younger people. But we've seen

(12:24):
a lot of younger people become more conservative. So you've
got a lot of younger people. You have some people
who are say older than twenty five or so who
just have this far left ideology where they just want
socialism that they want to take from the quote rich
and they want that money given to them. They want
to see the quote rich fall. Then you get into

(12:44):
their definition of rich. So my only point to you
is is what we can't laugh off these these socialists
and I call them nut jobs because this guy is
in New York. But we can't laugh this thing off
because there are a lot of people they were blessed
with intelligence they now used to do terrible things.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But there are a lot of.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
These people out there who are plotting to gain power,
already have power as either announced.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Socialist or closet socialist.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Like you look at a lot of stuff that Mike
Johnston's doing a mayor of Denver. And you know he
doesn't prance around like this this guy in New York
and call himself a Democrats socialist. And I'm not going
to get caught up in labels. But what do you
call it when you've got a mayor of Denver who says, Okay,
I'm taking your heart earned money. I'm taking your taxpayer

(13:35):
dollars to buy homes for anybody who wants one. And
when I say a home, I mean a place to live.
And he has said that.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
To the world.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
He is announced to the world, you come to Denver,
we will get you a home.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
We will get you a home. We will get you
a home.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
And that was addressed to the un housed population around
the world. And so what do you call that? But
I've got it, and I don't want to hold it back.
I don't want to tea into a break because this
is the absolute kryptonite of all these socialists, right And
there may be a rare exception somewhere, but not enough
to disturb this tactic. Whether it's Mike Johnston or whether

(14:11):
it's this guy Mandani and let me play the latest
sound from him. There is one way to completely expose
them with one short question. But before I give you
that kryptonite, listen to this.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
There are in the country about twelve hundred people who
are just wealthy, beyond beyond anything, right, And in twenty
five years ago there were only about forty of them.
Now there are twelve hundred people who are worth more
than a billion dollars and much more than that. That
has to be addressed at some point because they're not
paying the taxes that the rest of us are. Bad.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Absolutely, and I think it gets to the heart of
the matter, which is that there is enough money for
a life of dignity for all people. It's just a
question of whether we have the political will to ensure
that that money is being spent on delivering that.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It reminds me of a great line from our parish priest.
I've got to give you a second. But yeah, so
there's enough money out there, we just need to take
it from the people who have it and then give
it to the people who don't.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? And that's worked everywhere,
it's been tried. Right, But here's the silver bullet for
a guy like that, or for Mike Johnston when he
talks about generosity to newcomers, etc. As he lays off
or furloughs, I should say, lays off some people, cuts
paychecks of others, cuts city services. And if you driven

(15:34):
through I'm sure you have ryan any of these intersections
up and down Night twenty five, any of these highway exchanges,
I'd say we look like a third world country. But
most third wordal countries I've been in look a whole
lot better that. Then you know these grass and tumbleweeds
and garbage and everything everywhere at these highway exchanges. I mean, so,
Mike Johnston takes your money right to spend on newcomers,

(15:59):
encourage illegal immigration, et cetera. But here's the and then
he just talks about righteousness and everything else. But here's
the question for him, and if he'd ever have the
courage to come on the show, my first question would
be how much have you given out of your own
pocket to the newcomers? And my question for mom Donnie
would be, Okay, open the books, show us how much
money you've given to the poor, and what you're going

(16:22):
to see go through the left, go through that go
through those who do have to file their tax of turns,
et cetera. And see first how wealthy most of these
officeholders are on the left, and then how much they've
given to the poor out of their own pocket.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
You know, they want.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
To redistribute your income, but how much out of their
own pockets? So that is, that is the kryptonite for
all of these lefties. Now there may be the occasional exception,
but the vast majority of them. Yeah, they want to
give away your money, but not their own three or
three someone three eight, two, five, five the number. How
would you respond to that? How would you respond to

(16:59):
that that? Wait a second, there's plenty of money out
there for everybody to be doing well.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
We just have to.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Change who ends up with what? How would you respond
to that argument? And then when we come back from
this break, I want to play I want to play
some sound of how this guy and listen. I understand
we don't live in New York, and but but what
happens in New York, what happens with these socialists, whether
they call themselves that or not, doesn't stay in New York.

(17:31):
We've got plenty of it in Colorado. If you're listening
in Colorado, we certainly have plenty of it in Denver.
It's growing it's spreading the people in office. Democrats who
pretend to be moderate, many of them actually employ a
fair number of these socialist you know, techniques and policies
and programs.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
So yeah, it's worth having this conversation.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
When we come back from this break, we'll play that
the doctor King argument he tries to drop, and then
get your take on how you would best respond to that,
and certainly give you mine.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
But I also want to take some.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Text and calls on this issue of how much is
too much on a wedding? And I'm not just talking
about dollar amount of talking about different features and stuff,
as this Bezos wedding is getting a lot of press
right now, and would that be your starting point? Would
you say that what he's doing right now in Venice
is too much? Or would you just say nothing's too much.

(18:25):
Somebody's got the money and they're going to enjoy that.
Nothing's too much? Why should it matter to me? So
will weave your take on that in and out of
the show today, and of course we'll revisit at different
points this really important, tremendous US Supreme Court ruling today.
We've been saying that a lot lately, haven't we This
one Medina Vi planned parenthood for the Supreme Court says, no, hey,
stay of South Carolina, you or any other state, you

(18:47):
don't want to use your taxpayer dollars to pay for
killing people you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
It seems like a very common sense approach to me.
You're on the Dan Kapsula Show.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
We're just minutes away from the closing bell on Wall
Street and the S and P five hundred closed yesterday
on the cusp.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Of a record high.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
Right now kind of flatlining down. Just Kensey wincy Bit
Santa's Vannessa R. Cavis joins us now with more Vanessa.
This is really impressive given where the market was not
that long ago.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Yeah, really a remarkable story on Wall Street. We've been
watching the S and P very closely all day as
it has been flirting with a new record, the last
one set back in February. But it is remarkable because
at the low of the S ANDP it had shed
nine point eight trillion dollars in April, almost entering bear
market territory, and it's nearly now recovered all of its losses.

(19:43):
And just look at the markets. You see the DOW,
the SMP and the NASDAC on your screen, that dramatic
v shape drop and then recovery.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Book that had to hurt CNN to say that had
Hillary Ford, which kind enough to be with us just here,
and a lot of these business shows, network shows, etc.
That are talking about the market and more. She used
to work internationally as head of global business development for
KPMG and much more.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Hillary, Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
Yes, good evening, Dan, lovely to be here. Thank you
for having me.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
And someday I hope to have an accent just like yours.
I mean anywhere you go that that has to be helpful.

Speaker 10 (20:19):
But Hillary Trump says the same thing, So that's rather lovely.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Okay, Well, you know that doesn't get any better than that,
particularly not now. I mean, my goodness, funny how life works, right,
I mean, he was facing just just a mountain of adversity,
overcame it all and now he's on top of the world.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
Well, absolutely, And I have to tell you, Dan, I
look at I really kind an enjoyment actually and pleasure
looking at direct contrast, when you can say, look, you know,
the sort of then and now, like a photograph from
years ago, the reception that he received during his birth
presidency at NATO. I don't know if you remember, people
like Ankle and Michael actually literally want her back to

(21:00):
him I and he was basically ostracized. No one was
talking to him, and it was it was an embarrassment.
And now Dan to see them capitulating, to have each
of those nations, apart from Spain, spending nearly five percent
of their GDP. And I will actually say, could I
just say something with regard to the Brits, only the
British and the Poles have really stepped up in terms

(21:22):
of Western European nations. A lot of the Eastern European
nations have always made their you know, paid their fair
share as it used to be two percent. But this
is what I would like to say to Americans, so
you can really sort of understand this. Can you imagine
saying because in Europe, of course, a lot of people
are complaining about this. Can you imagine saying to a
British taxpayer, a Dutch taxpayer, a French taxpayer. Can you

(21:44):
imagine saying to them, we want you to spend millions,
actually billions on defending the US southern border. The reaction
would be, why should we do that? And America really
has been and I'm very proud to be an American,
more so than ever actually, but we've always been sort
of the daddy and the policeman.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
For the whole world.

Speaker 10 (22:06):
And why should we Why should the American tax payer?
Why should Dan, why should every member of the audience
and me? Why should we go to work with our
swite equity provide for their security? Now, I believe in
a safe world. Look, I'm from England, I'm from that
part of the world. I think it's wonderful that we
do sort of help them a bit, but it should
not be such a burden on the American taxpayer. And

(22:30):
I think President Trump is one hundred percent right on this,
And I'd love an American taxpayer to stand up and
say no, no, no, we don't want them to pay
their five percent. We're a Democrat, in which case, you know,
just give some more in your taxes at the end
of the year. That's what you think.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It's a Hillary Ford Richard guests, But Yan, it doesn't
get any better than Trump going to NATO and being
called daddy by the head.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
But that's just being a point, right.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
Martha Root that Marco Ruta, he's the Dutch was former
Dutch prime minister, and he's the head now NATO. You're
absolutely right he did. He referred him with daddy.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
And that's one of the most intriguing things about President
Trump to me is his ability and I'm trying to
think of any other president who's had this, his ability
to change the way we think about certain things. And
he successfully now changed the way America thinks about NATO.
You know, before it was all the knee jerk stuff,
and then enough people said, yeah, this just isn't fair.
And so what happens He bends that arc and now NATO,

(23:22):
most NATO countries are paying more.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:25):
Absolutely, and you see, actually the Germans are even thinking about,
you know, reinstating the draft. I think what he's going
to do is normalize that they should pay five percent.
And I think that's absolutely fair. Oh, I think what
he should have done. Actually, so my advice and President
Trump was listening to this, but just like he talks
about reciprocal tariffs, he should have said, or we can
just make it reciprocal. You can pay whatever percentage you want.

(23:47):
Towards your own defense. But then you'll pay that percentage
to our devents, right right, No, it's how would they
react to that? To my former point about the you know,
French tax payer paying for our southern border security.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I want to know it's a winning I love the
direction we're going right now, which then brings us to
the stock market, because I think any time that we
try to talk about the current state of the stock
market is an indicator of the success of a president.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
We like.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's very perilous, right because so many different things can
affect the market. But but obviously I'm very happy to
see it going where it's going right now.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But what's your take on it?

Speaker 10 (24:22):
Well, you know what I say about the market, I mean,
people are into making money. And you know, there are
a lot of obviously people that voted differently than than
for our current president. A lot of Democrats are you know,
in the market, and they're on Wall Street and they
live in New York, et cetera. But people want to
make money. This is what I think about the markets.
And by the way, you know, you know, full disclosure,
I wouldn't say that I'm a stockbroker and speak to

(24:44):
your wealth advisor. I'm not pretending to be an expert,
but I will give you the business perspective my expertise
in the business world. Businesses never like uncertainty. Uncertainty is
not good for any business. And the entire I will
say DC region, and I deal with a lot of
international as well as national companies, and is in the
dcvgion there's very much this weight and see attitude. A

(25:04):
lot of companies aren't firing a lot, but they're also
not hiring dam There's this weight and see mentality because
they need to see a certain degree of certainty. The
more trade deals are done and President Trump just announced
the trade deal with China, We've had the trade deal
secured with the UK, We've got the Indian trade deal.
The more trade deals that are done, the less insecurity

(25:26):
about tariff, the more secure the market steal and business
people feel. And that's when you will see an improving market.
And you're right, this should not There isn't necessarily a
direct correlation between the success of a president and the market. Nevertheless,
the policies of a presidency affect business and therefore affect
the markets. So I think it is an indicator of success.

(25:49):
It's just one data point. But I think my bed
is don't bet against Donald Trump. I think we're going
to see markets eventually. We've already hit all records highs.
I think that we'll go and go higher. I think
there will be a new golden age when we see light.
Just recently it was either to day or yesterday the
CEO of the major Oh right, it's gone right out

(26:10):
of my mind. That dish wash, the washing machine manufacturers,
they've just announced that they're going to make washing machines
now in Kentucky and some China.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Nice.

Speaker 10 (26:19):
And I think that's really important when you see things
like that, that's what's really important to our economy, restoring
American manufacturing. But I will say, Dan, don't forget that
takes time, and things that take time aren't going to
be reflected in the market immediately.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well, I love your point about don't bet against Trump,
because I've done the opposite. I've bet with him, and
I always tell people, hey, if I start talking about
buying stocks, do the opposite. But when we had that
big dip right in the midst of all the tariff
stuff and everything else, I just you know, and our kids,
and they're good, hard working smart young kids. Just got

(26:57):
everybody together and said, hey, you may want to look
because you know they have they are a little investment funds.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
You may want to look at make it a big
move now.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
And I'm glad we did because listen, I understand it's
always going to be up and down, but I do
believe on embedding on Trump and you just look at
his economic track record. But my last question for you,
Hillary goes to your point, which is, Okay, you know
there's going to come a point where things settle down
on that front and things settle in with the trade deals.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
What's your rough sense of timing on that.

Speaker 10 (27:27):
Oh, I'll always tell you when I definitely know. I
will say, just going back to when I was talking
about those washing machines, the ge washing machines coming touch Kentucky.
I'm not in the manufacturing industry. I'm in professional services.
Like you said, I had a global BUSINESSWM of the KPMG.
You know, the best thing to do is look and
see how long does that manufacturing cycle take to reasure.

(27:48):
I don't know, but what I would say is we're
the middle of this year. I would be very surprised
it's by twenty six. We didn't have the beginning of
or we weren't in the Golden age. I think that
in general, and it's the way I'm behaving with things
that I'm doing is hold on steady now. Don't expect anything.
You know, people say we're on a roller coaster. I
think we're gliding right now. I think just hold on

(28:10):
to where you are. And that's what businesses are doing.
They're not hiring, but they're not firing because we haven't
seen unemployment go up down, which means they're holding on
to their staff. Why because they're anticipating more of a boom.
I think everybody listening should wait and see. Like businesses are,
hold on tight, but be ready and get yourself poised
and do anything you need to do, whether it's investments,

(28:31):
whether it's train your people, whatever you need to do
to get ready for next year, for the end of
next year, and for this year, at the end of
next the end of this year and next year. I
say it's going to be next year feels like it.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
And last question in our last twenty seconds. You're a
golf course raider for Golf Digest, right, Golf Week, Golf
Week forgive me best course in Colorado.

Speaker 10 (28:55):
Oh goodness. Actually I haven't played a lot of golf
in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Oh my lord, you got to change that. All some
of the best golf in the world.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
But I'm flying out tomorrow to the Senior Open. I've
been invited and I will be there at the Broadmaw
and I can let you know another time. What's I
think of the Broadwall.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, that's going to be easy. I'm telling you this
right now, that the Broadmoor. I mean it is like
one of the great resorts in the world plunked down
right in the middle of Colorado Springs. And in terms
of courses, that East course at the Broadmoor, you're going
to be on for that tournament. Yeah, I don't know
how you get much better than that. But but hey, Hillary, thanks.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
About golf of Colorado. Is the airs thin, the bullgo father,
and you have less timidity? I love Colorado.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, that that's a lot of fun, but that has
its own peril. And the greens at the Broadmoor, holy cow,
good luck with that. But but Hillary, have a great
time out there and look forward to the next conversation.

Speaker 10 (29:46):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Thank you you take care of that is Hillary Fordwich
kind of enough to join us.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You're on the Dan Kapla.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Show and now back to the Dan Kaepla Show podcast.
Who is that again?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I feel Dan never would have guessed that hold on
loosely following the advice of Hillary Fordwitch with the economy there,
don't grip too tightly or get out of control.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's really good. Thanks, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
You know, have you ever thought of and we've got
to We've just got to pick a day and do that,
that show where it's going to be all humor, but
we're still talking about the serious stuff. It's just going
to be all humor, not Rodney Dangerfield jokes or anything else,
as good as those are, but just just much much
harder challenge, you know, all humor on serious topics.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
You need to do a show.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'm and I need to get ten percent of whatever
flows from this for you. You need to do a
show where every point you're making on just the normal
issues of the day is made with music.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
That's a great idea. I do got a knack for that,
thank you. Uh, there's that. But then I also I
always try to grab these, you know, little snippets or
clips of pop culture references TV shows, movies, music being
another one that kind of help drive those points home.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
And think that's another avenue to explore and to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
I certainly love the idea of using humor because that's
what I was just playing him during the break and
Kelly was listening. Rush Limbaugh was the master of this right,
and that he could discuss breakdown serious topics, but he
was hilarious, he was funny, he was engaging. He had
John Shanklin with the musical bits and parodies, and I
think that was very effective.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, And I think listen, I think that's
the way we were designed and created is is certain things,
certain things cut through, right. I think that's why Christ
taught in parables, were just wired in such a way
that we learn better through stories. And then obviously humor,
as you say, it just opens hearts and minds and

(31:41):
it's chemical. And then I think the SAME's true with music.
I mean, music can transport people back, and I'm sure
a lot of people in the audience experience it was
some of the stuff you pull to a specific moment
in a heartbeat, and it's completely involuntary.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
So if you could do an entire show making all
of your points with music. Yeah, And you know what,
as I listened to that, I have a bunch of
trials coming up.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
I just think that I think I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I think for some real important points, I'm just gonna
think of a song that everybody knows and just say, hey,
you know, like that song and because you think of
some points that are made in a song, and so
many people that can resonate with And you know, because
we're always right when we go to trial, I'm just
being literal there. We're just always right. We're coming in

(32:33):
with righteous cases and the facts and the law, et cetera.
So often it's just a matter of getting people to
see it honestly and correctly. And I think something like that,
a reference to a song, for example, can just help
people find a new way to look at it, just
like you know humor can't yep. Yeah, three h three
someone three eight two five five the number text d

(32:54):
A N five seven seven three nine. Let me get
to some of those texts right now before I get
behind Dan per Tony Saruga GPS puts uh So Ron
Mundani at Barock's war room twice in six weeks that
from Alexa. I'm surprised it isn't every day, because I
it occurred to me yesterday as we started to really

(33:15):
look at this.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
This goofball in New York.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And the reason I use pejoratives for him is I
hate anti Semites. I'm sorry, I do, and I just
think he's anti Semitic. And you know, there are obviously
all sorts of other problems with him, like being a
socialist and everything else, if not a communist, but people
people who are anti Semites, people who are racist, things
like that. It's just I'm sure it is with you too.

(33:40):
It's just visceral with me. I just yeah, I just
can't stand people like that. But how about some more
of these texts, Dan and Ryan I use Seinfeld quotes
all the time to highlight points. Boy, that is such
a great point.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
It's not a lie. They can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
That is we we should we should.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Add textures for some of their best Seinfeld quotes. And
I told you about that guy into it the Nuggets game, right,
the guy in the parking lot who has taking the tickets,
who had every Seinfeld character tattooed.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
On them, you know, Serenity. Now, all those grits. Yeah,
we I have that somewhere, don't. It's on You beat that?
How do you beat that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (34:26):
The opposite of the guy with the Seinfeldt tattoos would
be Kelly, who never watched the show.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Despite living through the night.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
She never watched that show.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
No, hold on, she has no sense of humor. Oh on,
man zero, that is not true, very true.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I think every one of them literally, I think one
year for Christmas, we got him the gift set.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, just a real brief time out here for those
in the listening audience that celebrate it is Kelly Couchier's birthday.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, well, why where's the festival puts on? It's like
the bezos wedding.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Every time somebody here has a birthday, it could be
somebody who doesn't even work here. Yeah you know, they
just they were delivering for grub Hub and Kelly, you
throw them the party of the year.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
How are we not having a party? I know? How
can you not tell me.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
It's my fault I dropped the ball or totally blame me.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
But for our listener texters out there, you can call in,
you can text in with your birthday wishes for.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh my goodness, I can't even believe that she's thirty six.
Oh Kelly, happy birthday. Yeah wow, Well, we'll have to
make up for this too much for that.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm not thirty six.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
You've attained thirty six years. You do have the in
your quiver.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I you yep, Okay, that's not accurate. We have some
great how long you've been married?

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Twenty four years?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, we've got.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Some great text coming in on this Bezos sweating, so
we'll we'll pick up on that because it ties into
other issues as well. I want to get you some
more sound from this socialist commienti semi is about to
be mayor of New York.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Get your reaction to that.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And as always, when we come back, a medical doctor
talking about the brutal realities of abortion
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