July 3, 2025 • 35 mins
With Dan Caplis returning, Dan asks the audience, what would Colorado's version of President Trump's National Garden of Heroes look like?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It turns out in the big Beautiful Bill, and we've
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talked about it more broadly and we will some more.
There is forty million dollars to kick off. Now it'll
cost a lot more than that in the end. But
this garden of American Heroes that President Trumps has wanted
for a long time, and I think he's right to
or they're going to be two hundred and fifty life
size statues and then you'll get the full story regarding
the individuals, if you know you're a kid or any
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of us wandering through this garden in DC, two hundred
and fifty American heroes, because I mean, you can only
have so many big heads in Mount Rushmore, right, Mount
Mount Rushmore, as they say in English, is awesome. But
that's led to the conversation of a Colorado Garden of Heroes,
a Garden of Colorado Heroes, whose life size statues would
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you want there? Ed, We're gonna have a hero from
the pro life movement join us in a minute as well.
But our lines are in fuego on this. I'm gonna
fly through and find out who people want in the
Colorado Garden of Heroes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
James and you go, you go, my friend.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Thank you. You've never heard that before, seven and eighteen times. Yeah, right,
I would nominate I believe it was Lieutenant Silas Sewell,
who was a part of Shovington's the soldiers who went
down to the Sand Creek massacre, and Lieutenant Sewell.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Held his men.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No motionless and would not take part in the massacre
when the hearing was held in Denver. After that the
whatever it was, after he testified, he was ambushed and
killed in Denver. And I think that he took a
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very principal stand, and I would nominate his name.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hey, you go, I'm sorry, James, and you go, thank
you for that. I'm going to look him up during
the break. I didn't know that story. Thank you, man,
appreciate that. I wonder is that who Sewell Hall is
named after? On CU I don't know, might just be
a donor. But I'm going to look that up during
the break. Larry and Thornton. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Welcome, Hello, Dan. I didn't know if you had seen
the item on TV four or five nights ago. They
said that Trump had submitted a different portrait, yes, since
he didn't like the one that Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Had understandably, Well, did you see that?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yes, sir, Well, it looked to me like somebody had
taken his mugshot and converted the color to atrocious colors,
reds and orison made it look like an angry I
don't know somebody, but I cannot believe that was really true.
I think that's got to be fake.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Interesting and Larry, my understanding was the President approved of
the new one and he liked that look, but appreciate
the call. Would you agree with me the old one
that had to go?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That just wasn't anything.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, it didn't really even look like resemblance. No, it
looked Moss. It looked more like the guy that plays
Trump on Saturday Night Lost.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Trump well said, well, said thank you Elaine in Denver.
You're on the Dan Kapla s.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Hi there, Dan, my suggestion for a garden of heroes.
Do you remember back when they had Daddy Bruce Randall.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, he should be there. Great suggestion.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
He had so many free Thanksgiving dinner, yes, that he prepared,
not just for the homeless, but for anybody, anybody, even
I could go down there and if I wanted to,
And I always wanted to volunteer downtown with him, but
I never did. And then he passed on. I don't
know if he had anybody take over for that, yeah
situation or not. I don't know if he had kids.
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And I think Dan, they may have named the street
after him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah they did, But you are one hundred percent right
a lane, and thank you for that. Yet, Daddy Bruce Randolph,
he should be in that Garden of heroes. And if
you're new to the state, you don't know the name.
See that's why we need a garden of Heroes, just
like Trump is now doing through the Big Beautiful Bill,
because these are people who need to be remembered for
what they did individually, but also what they symbolize and
represent and the best of us and what we want
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to let our kids know what it is we value.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Speaking of a hero.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This woman is a tremendous hero the civil rights issue
of our day, which is life and the right to life.
Doctor Catherine Willer used to be an abortionist. She used
to perform abortions, and now she saves babies and those
are the ultimate heroes of this movement. But she joins
us each week to talk about medicine, you know, as
a physician, to talk about medical issues relating to abortion.
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And today, given the South Carolina decision which allowed that state,
as you know by nowicing no, we're not funding abortion,
you know, through a medicaid program. Wanted to get the
doctor's take on whether this decrease of government funding of
planned paranoide, which is also through the Big Beautiful Bill,
will affect the safety net of essential women's healthcare. This
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from a medical perspective, Doctor, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Hello Dan, thanks for having me back and thanks for
letting me talk about this. And I heard you talking
about it last week and saw a lot in the
news these claims that unless Planned Parenthood has government funding
in places like South Carolina and across the country, that
people who are at risk, low income people will not
be able to access care adequately. So I mean, is
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that really true? So three primary things I would think of.
First of all, South Carolina had a right to not
fund Planned Parenthood because they have a law that they
they don't use public funds to go to abortion providers.
And of course, funds going to Planned Parenthood are fungible,
so even if it does not directly pay for an abortion,
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it can be used for any of their other operating expenses,
which frees them up for their primary mission, which really
is abortion and advocacy, So they're really subsidizing abortion. Secondly,
Planned Parenthood likes to say that they're a medical provider
of all kinds of healthcare services, not just for women
but for men, and they're doing a lot of gender
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care now, but really they're primarily an abortion provider. So
when you look at their annual report, and the last
one that I saw was twenty two to twenty three,
what they do is they count individual services that they
provide and they count them as equal value, no matter
what their revenue is. So for example, a woman comes
in primarily for an abortion, and so they don't count
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that as one visit. They count every single thing they
do for her separately, So a pregnancy test, medication, for coming,
that's the infection screening, her exam, her counseling, contraception for
afterwards or perhaps near and then the abortion, and they
count them as you goal value, So she may get
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eight or ten services, and the abortion may bring in
revenue of five hundred and eighty dollars average if it's
a drug, two thousand average if it's surgery. But everything
there is counted as equal value, and so it's greatly diluted.
So when they say four percent of what they do
is abortion, very twisted numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But doesn't that tell you something, doctor, Doesn't it tell
you that even Planned Parenthood is embarrassed that they do
these abortions. Right, And just like the core terminology of
the big abortion movement, which is that they don't even
want to use the word abortion anymore. They've got to
call it something else because so many people have seen
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ultrasounds now they get it that abortion is the taking
of an instant human life. So they have to call
it reproductive health care or something else.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Yeah, they do disccount that that's really the primary thing
they do. They want to be seen as healthcare providers.
But we've talked about this. This is not healthcare because
it ends a patient's life and it doesn't promote health obviously.
You know the other part of this is women have
better options for care. So plant period does not do
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comprehensive care if she wants to continue her pregnancy, they
don't do prenatal care, they don't do primary care, ongoing
primary care, they refer for all of that. In fact,
less than one percent of the paps and you'res done
in the United States are done the planned parenthoods. So
we're not going to miss them. If they're not providing
that service, where will people go. Well, we've got federally
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qualified health centers outnumber planned parenthood fifteen to one. In
the fact, one in ten Americans access that, and they
do provide all of the comprehensive primary healthcare for low
income and vulnerable under serve populations. So no, we're not
going to have people not being able to access care.
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There is the ability to get really excellent, high quality,
comprehensive care, truly comprehensive healthcare in other ways that planned
parenthood is actually not really providing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And obviously, you know, coming from your medical perspective, it
carries even more weight with folks, as each of these
segments do right, because I'm just a firm believer the
truth will set us free, including from the scourge of abortion.
And the more people who know the true medical facts
when it comes to this that the more people who
are going to shift toward life. So thank you, doctor,
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and any big independence state plans.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Well, I will be going to Woodland Park.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Nice. Nice, That's it's beautiful up there.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, we're gonna have a blast. It's our thirty first
anniversary today. And assuming she's still there when I get home,
and I expect, yes, Yeah, our boys coming in tonight,
our boys coming in tonight from his job in DC.
And our daughter who's was out in the trial prep
trip with me because she's on our trial team, is
coming home.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We're all going to be together.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And as everybody knows, that's nirvana, right when you got
the crew together.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Oh, isn't that true? Well, I hope you have just
the most wonderful fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh, thank you, we will you take care.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's doctor Catherine Wheeler, and sure appreciate her time this week.
And it's it's a really cool thing about the pro
life movement. And I've been privileged to have a very
very very small part in it for many, many decades
because my mom I considered to be one of the
founders of the movement after Roe back on the South
Side of Chicago. But anyway, within this movement, you know,
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the ultimate heroes my perception, I think almost everybody'd say
the same thing are the women who've had abortions and
then help save other lives and other women from abortions.
And the doctors who used to perform abortions like our
last guest, and then say no, this is wrong and
we need to go out and save lives. Hey, when
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we come back, the President, he's getting the American Garden
of Heroes in the big beautiful bill. Who should be
in a Colorado Garden of Heroes? You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Now the most important vote of this Congress, and I
think this may be the most important vote that any
of us take in our entire lifetimes. And everybody better
remember it. However you vote today, my friends, the President
of the United States is waiting with his pen. The
American people are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough
talk it's time for action. Let's finish the job for him.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Vote yes on the bill that was pretty well done
and they did so.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, really impressed with Speaker Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And yeah, I talk with you about that when I
had the privilege of interviewing in one on one and
just came away thinking, Yeah, no, this this guy, I
mean just absolutely brilliant and tough and principled and yeah,
and he has risen to that position. And my goodness,
I mean, think about all the good things that says
to America on a conscious direct but also an implicit
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kind of level, about the competence and the unity and
the coherence of the GOP that they were able to
pull this off. And whether somebody likes everything that's in
the bill or doesn't urse a mix, the fact that
GOP was able to keep these slim majorities together and
get this bill passed. That is a testament to leadership.
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It's a testament to unity and to the ability to
get things done. And again, I don't claim to be
an expert on this bill, but it will also it'll
be great for the country in that sense, right, because
the Democrats are total mess and the GOP now is
together and organized and unified enough to get.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
A bill like this through.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That contrast helps, and it's important to the greatest nation
on earth to have at least one functioning, unified political party,
and no sane person would suggest to you the Democrats
are so that contrast is good for the GOP heading
into a midterm year, and good for the country the
bill itself. And again I don't claim to know everything
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in there, but I think Trump has shown. Trump has
shown a tremendous ability when it comes to understanding what
makes this US economy go and how to get it there.
And so he's fully committed to this idea of growing
our way out of this debt and deficit trouble. And
so this bill is intended to provide.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That kind of fuel. And so I think he has.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Earned that trust and I'm looking forward to watching it happen.
I mean selfishly, Yeah, I'm happy there isn't going to
be the tax increase that would have happened if the
Trump tax cuts had expired, which they would have without
this bill. And I haven't seen the particulars yet on
no tax on tips, But I.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Just love the idea.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I love the idea that so many working people are
going to get that kind of relief. I was always
raised to believe and I still believe it and do
my best to live it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That about the best money you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Can spend, other than if there's a starving person in
front of you, the best money you can spend is
on tipping people because those I mean, you get a
chance to meet the person, just size them up.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You know they're out there working hard.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And it's just kind of that direct return and the
idea that people don't have to pay money on those tips.
And I used to work for tips as a golf
caddy and short time as a bartender until it interfered
with studies too much. Plus, at that time, Zach, I
thought I was going back to the seminary, and so
after college I was in a high school seminary and
then got an Evans Caddy scholarship to see you Boulder.
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So I thought I'd come to see you Boulder, then
go back to the major seminary. And so working in
a bar at night was not really conducive to my
planned return.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
To the seminary. If you know what I mean. It
doesn't quite line up. No, no, it did not. It
did not.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But so that's why I left my work in the bar,
but I used to do a lot of work for tips,
and I you know, I don't know if other people
are the same. I'm not choking up. I'm just choking
on peanut butter. I mean, like I can literally sitting
here right now, I can picture it. I can remember
a guy who gave me a particularly good tip when
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I was working as a caddy, like a long time ago,
and when I was working as a car parker, you know,
so you remember the and believe it or not, when
I was working as a bar tap, I mean, you
remember those things. So happy to see people who work
for tips get some real relief.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I understand the arguments on the other side.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I respect those, but I just think this country, this party,
the GOP, and the country, there's just so much more
that has to be focused on working people, you know,
for this country to be what it needs to be,
for the GOP to be what it should be, and
for the GOP to be successful, because what knows, Democrats
are not the party of the working people anymore. I
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don't think any sane person, any honest person, would try to.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Contend that they are.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And that's been a fascinating thing for me to watch,
at least as a kid who grew up a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I was a Democrat till my thirties and just proud
of it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because you know John Kennedy, and you know the party
that stood for the working men and women and for
the week in defense US and then over time, but
certainly the big turning point was legalized abortion. Then all
of a sudden, the party that I thought stood for
all those good things, you know what, was now the
opposite and has continued to be and get even worse.
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So this is one of the reasons I'm so optimistic
for America is there are so many good people, patriotic Americans,
conservative Americans who have the same good intentions that the
vast majority of Republicans have, who still vote Democrat out
of habit and out of the stereotype, the negative stereotype
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of the GOP. So one of the reasons I'm so
optimistic is that we're starting to see it happened in layers, right,
but the day is going to come when a whole
lot tipping point kind of moment when a whole lot
of people who normally vote Democrat start voting Republican. And
you don't need that many flips to all of a
sudden dramatically change landscape. But I get the Colorado is
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a harder nut to crack. But on this Independence Day weekend,
it's good to remember the bigger the challenge, right, the
bigger the privilege. Three h three someone three eight two
five five takes d an five seven seven three nine.
In the Big Beautiful Bill, we have forty million dollars
set aside and it'll just be seed money. The final
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cost will be much more, but worth it for President
Trump's Garden of American Heroes lifetime statues of two hundred
and fifty American heroes. If we were to do that
kind of Garden of Colorado hero say down at the Capitol,
and first you'd have to start to protect the Capitol
in downtown.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But who should be in that garden? Love your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
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Speaker 8 (18:34):
You're on the Dan Caplish, you're listening to the Dan
Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:46):
They even get tired of winning, and you'll say, please, please,
it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore, mister President.
It's too much and I'll say.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We have to keep winning. We have to win more.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
We're gonna win more.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We gotta be top ten. Trump sound never get tired
of that bite. And what a perfect day to play.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It, right, I mean, we're heading into Independence Day weekend.
Just a monumental win on the big beautiful bill. And
imagine how tough it had to be to herd those
cats to get that through with such narrow margins. And
obviously it doesn't happen without the big role that President
Trump has been on, a great job by the Speaker
and by John Thuns. So yeah, the whole idea behind this,
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obviously is to fuel economic growth to increase government revenues
that way to tackle that and deficit. And President Trump
obviously firmly committed to saving America that way because something's
got to change, right, I mean, if we continue on
the current road, then America will meet economic rule. So
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something has to change. Trump committed to doing it through growth.
This bill designed to accomplish that. I think he has
certainly proven that he understands the American economy and how
to make it work. And he's had tremendous success under
very adverse circumstances, particularly in the first term, so trust
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him and be anxious to see this go to work.
So we've been talking about a few individual pieces, but
one that's also really intriguing is there's forty million in here,
and it'll just be the seed money, right, but forty
million in here for a garden of American heroes and
it's going to be two hundred and fifty statues and
then there'll be a process for deciding who gets in
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there of American heroes from all different walks of life.
And I love this idea, assuming they pick the right
people and they do it right of you know, the
school kids who go to DC and the rest of us,
you know, just wandering through this big garden and these
life size figures, and then they'll be all the interactive stuff,
right And yes, so I probably be able to play
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catch with Mickey Mantle, or at least canical version of
Mickey Mantle. So I love this concept, and in Colorado,
I would not trust it in lefty hands right now.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Can you imagine who they'd put in the garden.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But I'd love to see that once the state regains
its sanity. I'd love to see it up around the
Capitol and Civic Center Park, and you know, the kids
would be able to see like what we value, you know,
the people who represent the things we really value. So
asking you who would you want in there? So we're
talking about that, We're talking about lots of other things.
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Speaker 2 (21:34):
Five seven seven three nine? Who would you want in there?
The Colorado Garden of Heroes?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So obviously, I mean, I think everybody a top choice
for everybody. And I'm biased here because I've had the
privilege of representing Kendrick Castio's amazing parents, John and Maria.
But yeah, Kendrick Castio would have to be in there.
Text or Dan Kendrickkesis comes to my mind. Beyond that,
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never a politician that isn't at least fifty years deceased.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I you know, I don't know that i'd want to.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Would you want a hardline un deceased?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Maybe you'd have to have that, But yeah, maybe you
have to have that just to be safe, Like it
drives me crazy. I like Frederick Opina fine, I mean
we differ politically, but the times I've met him, like
youth baseball stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like the guy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But the idea you've got one of the major roads
in Hall of Colorado named after a living guy, a
Democrat politician.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I don't buy that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, if you're going to do that, then you
have to have I twenty five named after Bill Owens, Right,
a great Republican governor, a great two term Republican governor, or,
should be something named after him. But I think you've
got to be naming stuff after first. You got to
be naming stuff after people who've died for the state,
for the country, their life for the state or the country.
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So you got to have Kendrick Castillo gave his life
to save his classmates and teachers. You got to have
Dave Sanders gave his life to save his students at Columbine.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think you'd have to have Danny Diets in there,
you know, Navy seal hero.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And then I think one of the big challenges would
be we have so many, particularly this date right and
our military tradition, we have so many military heroes from
this state.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
How do you choose who goes in and who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Same with law enforcement people who broke heroically given their
lives people who've heroically risked death to save others and
did not die in the process.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Would be quite a challenge narrowing it down, assuming you
went with kind of the same two fifty number, and
there would have to be some space limitation, right, So yeah,
I'd love to hear from you who you would like
to see in there.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But can you.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Imagine the other thing your thoughts on if the left
was to do that now, which which it won't, right,
I mean, just the whole idea heroes kind of thing
anesthetical to the hard left that controls the Democratic Party.
But if they were to do that, who do you
think they'd put in there?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh? My goodness, all.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Right, I want to get to some of our texters.
Dan of Colorado is to have a garden of heroes
that should celebrate our military heroes like William Crawford, Drew Dick,
Sector Flores and others.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And it goes on from there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dan. I called a Congressman's office yesterday about the big
beautiful bill, and at the end of the call, I
wish the person on the phone a happy Fourth of July,
and they replied with happy Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't often say agreeting to people on fourth of July. However,
I feel a special sense of celibratory and I'm proud
this year interesting because I found the transition for me
to be very easy because for the first few years
of my life, I've always said happy fourth of July
or referred to it as the fourth of July. And
then we had a Texter take me to task for
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that earlier in the show, and you know, it's Independence Day,
and Texter's right. So I think the last five times
I've referred to it on the show today with guests,
et cetera, it's been Independence Day, and it rolls off
the tongue. So I think that is a thing, and
I get it. And I get it mainly because you know,
people didn't die for the date on the calendar. They
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died for our independence and it is one of the
greatest gifts in the history of the world, right, this
kind of independence and freedom.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So I get it, and I am now an.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Independence Day guy, just like Christmas. And listen, you can't
compare anything to Christmas, right, because that's God. But yeah,
I mean, I'm an Independence Day guy. I'm sure I'll
slip here and there Warren in Colorado Springs here on
the dancap plashow.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Yeah, I want to talk to you about how much
I have to this buying Colinborder got well. I was
living for fifteen years before I move back to Colorado.
I lived Becore, leaning out of Hope. I'm familiar with
the Idaho situation, but I hate our legal system for
being able to put that guy off well penalty. I
just can't stand their all legal system because it makes
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me so irritated. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah. Yeah, and that is particularly maddening.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I haven't dug into the details, but does he actually
have some opportunity even in theory, for parole or is
he just locked in for life.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
For certain Well, I'd say he's locked in for life. Yeah,
there's no chance of parole, but big deal. You can
possibly escape or he can read legal books and figure
out a way to get out within ten or fifteen years.
That's happened before.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, And I understand if you have family members there,
and sometimes family members are divided. Because I represent my
civil practice, sometimes folks who've had somebody murdered and then
there's a civil case that arives from it. Sometimes you
have family members who would get great comfort from the
death penalty. Sometimes they are family members who who don't
want the death penalty for personal or religious reasons, et cetera.
(27:05):
But how frustrating for those who want it.
Speaker 11 (27:08):
There against the death penalty the way it celebrating this country.
If they gave the death penalty, he'd still lived for
ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
Yeah, But as far as I'm concerned, now, you're going
to think this about Aric, because I already feel about
this guy. If there are some male relatives that would
like to take him and do whatever they want with him,
I'd say give him to him.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You think the law should be changed to allow that?
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yes, interesting, because I feel I've lost somebody close when
I was sixteen, family members, and I can imagine the
pain suffering I went on with those relatives to parents
and brothers and sisters and poor kids, and they just
can't stand the legal system allows that piece of garbage
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extremate to survive and live. Yeah, away, that's all I
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, I appreciate the call. And you know the reason
I would oppose what Warren's suggesting is is not the
idea that this mass murderer doesn't deserve it. It's the
idea that our country deserves better, right, and for the
good of our nation, I think we don't want to
be punishing people in the way Warren describes. And again
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it has nothing to do with any kind of sympathy
for protection of these evil, demon acting murderers. It's more
the good of our country. Three h three someone three
eight two five five. Hey, we'll we come back to
some more callers and texts for the president now, and
I'm glad he's going to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
A big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's going to get his Garden of American Heroes two
hundred and fifty life sized statues. If we were to
have a garden of Colorado heroes, who would you want
in there? And then a recreation of a great George
Washington speech to up celebrate Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
This may be the most important vote that any of
us take in our entire lifetimes, and everybody better remember it.
However you vote today, my friends, the President of the
United States is waiting with his pen. The American people
are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough talk. It's
time for action. Let's finish the job for him. Vote
yes on the bill.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Boy, They got it done too.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No matter what you think about the content of the bill,
it is so impressive they were able to get it done.
And Trump hashon he knows what he's talking about when
it comes to this nation's economy, and he absolutely believes
what's in this bill is going to fuel massive growth,
which will generate the government revenue to then lower debts
(29:47):
and deficits. And we've got to do that right so,
and then the bit about defunding planned parenthood, very very
excited to see that. I want to get into the
particulars over the weekend and get a good grip on that,
the certainty of that, and to make sure it's absolute,
and then we could talk about that some more next week.
I want to get you a little bit from this
(30:07):
recreation of a George Washington speech as we head into
Independence Day weekend.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
You have done all I have asked you to do
and more, But your country is at stake. Your wives,
youre homes, and all you hold dear. You have worn
yourselves out with fatigues and hardships. If you will consent
to stay one month longer. You will render that service
to the cause of liberty into your country, which you
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can probably never do under any other circumstance. Again, the
drums rolled, and this time all the men began stepping
forward to God Almighty wrote with Daniel Green, inclined their
hearts to listen to the proposal, and they engaged a new.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean, you think about the difference.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm sure you've seen it in your own life, right,
maybe you've been that gygao, But you think about the
difference leadership, mate, and it's made throughout the history of
our country. And if you don't have this leader at
this moment, things just go off the rails, right, and
we probably just don't have anywhere near the same nation or.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
World that we do today.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So it goes back to her at the end of
the Declaration of Independence, where all these folks, all these guys,
and you can be sure their wives had the same attitude, right,
or they probably wouldn't have been doing it is with
reliance on divine providence, right, that they pledge each other
their lives, their fortune, their sacred honors. So yeah, and
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awful lot of people who believe President Trump is the
man for this moment. And I'm one of those as
well who believe that. And that doesn't mean I'm good
with every single thing he's ever sun or said or done.
Nobody'd ever say that about anybody in history. But it
goes back to us we talked about, and we're coming
up on the anniversary now, right of that assassination attempt
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in the Butler Field, and my belief at the time
more and more reason to believe that sense that there
was divine intervention there. And I can't know that for sure, right.
I hope to someday be in a place where I
will know that for sure. But that's my personal belief.
I know the president believes that. But then you see
all the good things he's done for the country since then,
(32:17):
and the country being spared. Can you imagine, don't even
want to think about what would have happened to this
nation if that assassin had succeeded. So, you know, another
major turning point for the better in our nation when
President Trump turned his head that afternoon and the assassin failed.
And then critically, can you imagine the presence of mind
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in the moment, and then the courage and the coherence.
President Trump to just jump up and say fight, fight, fight,
and we talked about it. I think that following Monday
on the show, that race was essentially over there. I
think that race was over long before then, right, because
America was just it was never going to elect Joe Biden,
was never going to be the candidate come elect in America.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Wasn't gonna let Kamala Harris for very good reason.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But even if the Democrats had a candidate who could win,
the election was over when President Trump showed the ability
to do that under fire.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So wow, what a year.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So much reason for hope, so much reason for hope
and optimism. So we got to finish the show with
this sound, right, I mean, I just put this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Thing on a loop.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
You have done it all.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I like that too. That's not the sound I wanted
to finish the show with. I wanted to finish the
show with this.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
We're gonna win so much. You may even get tired
of winning. And you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We can't take.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
It anymore, mister President, It's too much, And I'll say, no,
it isn't.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We have to keep winning.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
We have to win more.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
We're gonna win more.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
One of the greatest Trump clips ever. And it's not
only contagious, but it builds on itself. Right when when
you talk about winning, it's contagious for the obvious reasons.
Some of it's chemical, some of it's practical, but it
builds on itself because you get these victories and then
stuff works, and then it's easier to convince people to
keep going further down this road with more victories, whether
(34:13):
you're talking about peace or strength, whether you're talking about
the economy. And then what I believe we're in the
middle of experiencing together is then you're going to get
to the point where, come twenty twenty eight, and this
would have happened without COVID, right, If COVID had not happened,
Trump would have had a consecutive term, a second turn
back to back. Then you would have had a Republican
elected in twenty four because it would have been so
(34:35):
much continuing success under Trump. And that's what we're on
track for here. It's not guaranteed, right, everybody has to
do their thing, but you're just going to have this
success continue to build on itself to the point where
the GOP nominee. Particularly with the deep bench, the GOP
has has a very very good chance to win in
twenty eight and then as long as they keep doing
(34:56):
the right stuff, because that's the thing is a former Democrat,
had took me a long time to come to appreciate
these conservative ideas. The conservative approach really does work, and
so America sees it continuing to work, and then you're
going to have more and more GOP presidents.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's going to perpetuate. Zach, you're the best man. Thank
you for that. Kelly, have a great weekend, enjoy it all.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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way and perfect creative kind of way to do it.
It turns out in the big Beautiful Bill, and we've
(00:21):
talked about it more broadly and we will some more.
There is forty million dollars to kick off. Now it'll
cost a lot more than that in the end. But
this garden of American Heroes that President Trumps has wanted
for a long time, and I think he's right to
or they're going to be two hundred and fifty life
size statues and then you'll get the full story regarding
the individuals, if you know you're a kid or any
(00:43):
of us wandering through this garden in DC, two hundred
and fifty American heroes, because I mean, you can only
have so many big heads in Mount Rushmore, right, Mount
Mount Rushmore, as they say in English, is awesome. But
that's led to the conversation of a Colorado Garden of Heroes,
a Garden of Colorado Heroes, whose life size statues would
(01:05):
you want there? Ed, We're gonna have a hero from
the pro life movement join us in a minute as well.
But our lines are in fuego on this. I'm gonna
fly through and find out who people want in the
Colorado Garden of Heroes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
James and you go, you go, my friend.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Thank you. You've never heard that before, seven and eighteen times. Yeah, right,
I would nominate I believe it was Lieutenant Silas Sewell,
who was a part of Shovington's the soldiers who went
down to the Sand Creek massacre, and Lieutenant Sewell.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Held his men.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
No motionless and would not take part in the massacre
when the hearing was held in Denver. After that the
whatever it was, after he testified, he was ambushed and
killed in Denver. And I think that he took a
(02:07):
very principal stand, and I would nominate his name.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Hey, you go, I'm sorry, James, and you go, thank
you for that. I'm going to look him up during
the break. I didn't know that story. Thank you, man,
appreciate that. I wonder is that who Sewell Hall is
named after? On CU I don't know, might just be
a donor. But I'm going to look that up during
the break. Larry and Thornton. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Welcome, Hello, Dan. I didn't know if you had seen
the item on TV four or five nights ago. They
said that Trump had submitted a different portrait, yes, since
he didn't like the one that Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Had understandably, Well, did you see that?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yes, sir, Well, it looked to me like somebody had
taken his mugshot and converted the color to atrocious colors,
reds and orison made it look like an angry I
don't know somebody, but I cannot believe that was really true.
I think that's got to be fake.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Interesting and Larry, my understanding was the President approved of
the new one and he liked that look, but appreciate
the call. Would you agree with me the old one
that had to go?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That just wasn't anything.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, it didn't really even look like resemblance. No, it
looked Moss. It looked more like the guy that plays
Trump on Saturday Night Lost.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Trump well said, well, said thank you Elaine in Denver.
You're on the Dan Kapla s.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Hi there, Dan, my suggestion for a garden of heroes.
Do you remember back when they had Daddy Bruce Randall.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, he should be there. Great suggestion.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
He had so many free Thanksgiving dinner, yes, that he prepared,
not just for the homeless, but for anybody, anybody, even
I could go down there and if I wanted to,
And I always wanted to volunteer downtown with him, but
I never did. And then he passed on. I don't
know if he had anybody take over for that, yeah
situation or not. I don't know if he had kids.
(04:13):
And I think Dan, they may have named the street
after him.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah they did, But you are one hundred percent right
a lane, and thank you for that. Yet, Daddy Bruce Randolph,
he should be in that Garden of heroes. And if
you're new to the state, you don't know the name.
See that's why we need a garden of Heroes, just
like Trump is now doing through the Big Beautiful Bill,
because these are people who need to be remembered for
what they did individually, but also what they symbolize and
represent and the best of us and what we want
(04:39):
to let our kids know what it is we value.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Speaking of a hero.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This woman is a tremendous hero the civil rights issue
of our day, which is life and the right to life.
Doctor Catherine Willer used to be an abortionist. She used
to perform abortions, and now she saves babies and those
are the ultimate heroes of this movement. But she joins
us each week to talk about medicine, you know, as
a physician, to talk about medical issues relating to abortion.
(05:06):
And today, given the South Carolina decision which allowed that state,
as you know by nowicing no, we're not funding abortion,
you know, through a medicaid program. Wanted to get the
doctor's take on whether this decrease of government funding of
planned paranoide, which is also through the Big Beautiful Bill,
will affect the safety net of essential women's healthcare. This
(05:28):
from a medical perspective, Doctor, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Hello Dan, thanks for having me back and thanks for
letting me talk about this. And I heard you talking
about it last week and saw a lot in the
news these claims that unless Planned Parenthood has government funding
in places like South Carolina and across the country, that
people who are at risk, low income people will not
be able to access care adequately. So I mean, is
(05:55):
that really true? So three primary things I would think of.
First of all, South Carolina had a right to not
fund Planned Parenthood because they have a law that they
they don't use public funds to go to abortion providers.
And of course, funds going to Planned Parenthood are fungible,
so even if it does not directly pay for an abortion,
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it can be used for any of their other operating expenses,
which frees them up for their primary mission, which really
is abortion and advocacy, So they're really subsidizing abortion. Secondly,
Planned Parenthood likes to say that they're a medical provider
of all kinds of healthcare services, not just for women
but for men, and they're doing a lot of gender
(06:39):
care now, but really they're primarily an abortion provider. So
when you look at their annual report, and the last
one that I saw was twenty two to twenty three,
what they do is they count individual services that they
provide and they count them as equal value, no matter
what their revenue is. So for example, a woman comes
in primarily for an abortion, and so they don't count
(07:03):
that as one visit. They count every single thing they
do for her separately, So a pregnancy test, medication, for coming,
that's the infection screening, her exam, her counseling, contraception for
afterwards or perhaps near and then the abortion, and they
count them as you goal value, So she may get
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eight or ten services, and the abortion may bring in
revenue of five hundred and eighty dollars average if it's
a drug, two thousand average if it's surgery. But everything
there is counted as equal value, and so it's greatly diluted.
So when they say four percent of what they do
is abortion, very twisted numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But doesn't that tell you something, doctor, Doesn't it tell
you that even Planned Parenthood is embarrassed that they do
these abortions. Right, And just like the core terminology of
the big abortion movement, which is that they don't even
want to use the word abortion anymore. They've got to
call it something else because so many people have seen
(08:06):
ultrasounds now they get it that abortion is the taking
of an instant human life. So they have to call
it reproductive health care or something else.
Speaker 7 (08:15):
Yeah, they do disccount that that's really the primary thing
they do. They want to be seen as healthcare providers.
But we've talked about this. This is not healthcare because
it ends a patient's life and it doesn't promote health obviously.
You know the other part of this is women have
better options for care. So plant period does not do
(08:36):
comprehensive care if she wants to continue her pregnancy, they
don't do prenatal care, they don't do primary care, ongoing
primary care, they refer for all of that. In fact,
less than one percent of the paps and you'res done
in the United States are done the planned parenthoods. So
we're not going to miss them. If they're not providing
that service, where will people go. Well, we've got federally
(08:57):
qualified health centers outnumber planned parenthood fifteen to one. In
the fact, one in ten Americans access that, and they
do provide all of the comprehensive primary healthcare for low
income and vulnerable under serve populations. So no, we're not
going to have people not being able to access care.
(09:18):
There is the ability to get really excellent, high quality,
comprehensive care, truly comprehensive healthcare in other ways that planned
parenthood is actually not really providing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And obviously, you know, coming from your medical perspective, it
carries even more weight with folks, as each of these
segments do right, because I'm just a firm believer the
truth will set us free, including from the scourge of abortion.
And the more people who know the true medical facts
when it comes to this that the more people who
are going to shift toward life. So thank you, doctor,
(09:53):
and any big independence state plans.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Well, I will be going to Woodland Park.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Nice. Nice, That's it's beautiful up there.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, we're gonna have a blast. It's our thirty first
anniversary today. And assuming she's still there when I get home,
and I expect, yes, Yeah, our boys coming in tonight,
our boys coming in tonight from his job in DC.
And our daughter who's was out in the trial prep
trip with me because she's on our trial team, is
coming home.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We're all going to be together.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And as everybody knows, that's nirvana, right when you got
the crew together.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Oh, isn't that true? Well, I hope you have just
the most wonderful fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh, thank you, we will you take care.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's doctor Catherine Wheeler, and sure appreciate her time this week.
And it's it's a really cool thing about the pro
life movement. And I've been privileged to have a very
very very small part in it for many, many decades
because my mom I considered to be one of the
founders of the movement after Roe back on the South
Side of Chicago. But anyway, within this movement, you know,
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the ultimate heroes my perception, I think almost everybody'd say
the same thing are the women who've had abortions and
then help save other lives and other women from abortions.
And the doctors who used to perform abortions like our
last guest, and then say no, this is wrong and
we need to go out and save lives. Hey, when
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we come back, the President, he's getting the American Garden
of Heroes in the big beautiful bill. Who should be
in a Colorado Garden of Heroes? You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Now the most important vote of this Congress, and I
think this may be the most important vote that any
of us take in our entire lifetimes. And everybody better
remember it. However you vote today, my friends, the President
of the United States is waiting with his pen. The
American people are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough
talk it's time for action. Let's finish the job for him.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Vote yes on the bill that was pretty well done
and they did so.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, really impressed with Speaker Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And yeah, I talk with you about that when I
had the privilege of interviewing in one on one and
just came away thinking, Yeah, no, this this guy, I
mean just absolutely brilliant and tough and principled and yeah,
and he has risen to that position. And my goodness,
I mean, think about all the good things that says
to America on a conscious direct but also an implicit
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kind of level, about the competence and the unity and
the coherence of the GOP that they were able to
pull this off. And whether somebody likes everything that's in
the bill or doesn't urse a mix, the fact that
GOP was able to keep these slim majorities together and
get this bill passed. That is a testament to leadership.
(12:57):
It's a testament to unity and to the ability to
get things done. And again, I don't claim to be
an expert on this bill, but it will also it'll
be great for the country in that sense, right, because
the Democrats are total mess and the GOP now is
together and organized and unified enough to get.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
A bill like this through.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
That contrast helps, and it's important to the greatest nation
on earth to have at least one functioning, unified political party,
and no sane person would suggest to you the Democrats
are so that contrast is good for the GOP heading
into a midterm year, and good for the country the
bill itself. And again I don't claim to know everything
(13:37):
in there, but I think Trump has shown. Trump has
shown a tremendous ability when it comes to understanding what
makes this US economy go and how to get it there.
And so he's fully committed to this idea of growing
our way out of this debt and deficit trouble. And
so this bill is intended to provide.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That kind of fuel. And so I think he has.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Earned that trust and I'm looking forward to watching it happen.
I mean selfishly, Yeah, I'm happy there isn't going to
be the tax increase that would have happened if the
Trump tax cuts had expired, which they would have without
this bill. And I haven't seen the particulars yet on
no tax on tips, But I.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Just love the idea.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I love the idea that so many working people are
going to get that kind of relief. I was always
raised to believe and I still believe it and do
my best to live it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That about the best money you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Can spend, other than if there's a starving person in
front of you, the best money you can spend is
on tipping people because those I mean, you get a
chance to meet the person, just size them up.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
You know they're out there working hard.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And it's just kind of that direct return and the
idea that people don't have to pay money on those tips.
And I used to work for tips as a golf
caddy and short time as a bartender until it interfered
with studies too much. Plus, at that time, Zach, I
thought I was going back to the seminary, and so
after college I was in a high school seminary and
then got an Evans Caddy scholarship to see you Boulder.
(15:09):
So I thought I'd come to see you Boulder, then
go back to the major seminary. And so working in
a bar at night was not really conducive to my
planned return.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
To the seminary. If you know what I mean. It
doesn't quite line up. No, no, it did not. It
did not.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But so that's why I left my work in the bar,
but I used to do a lot of work for tips,
and I you know, I don't know if other people
are the same. I'm not choking up. I'm just choking
on peanut butter. I mean, like I can literally sitting
here right now, I can picture it. I can remember
a guy who gave me a particularly good tip when
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I was working as a caddy, like a long time ago,
and when I was working as a car parker, you know,
so you remember the and believe it or not, when
I was working as a bar tap, I mean, you
remember those things. So happy to see people who work
for tips get some real relief.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I understand the arguments on the other side.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I respect those, but I just think this country, this party,
the GOP, and the country, there's just so much more
that has to be focused on working people, you know,
for this country to be what it needs to be,
for the GOP to be what it should be, and
for the GOP to be successful, because what knows, Democrats
are not the party of the working people anymore. I
(16:27):
don't think any sane person, any honest person, would try to.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Contend that they are.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And that's been a fascinating thing for me to watch,
at least as a kid who grew up a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I was a Democrat till my thirties and just proud
of it.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Because you know John Kennedy, and you know the party
that stood for the working men and women and for
the week in defense US and then over time, but
certainly the big turning point was legalized abortion. Then all
of a sudden, the party that I thought stood for
all those good things, you know what, was now the
opposite and has continued to be and get even worse.
(17:06):
So this is one of the reasons I'm so optimistic
for America is there are so many good people, patriotic Americans,
conservative Americans who have the same good intentions that the
vast majority of Republicans have, who still vote Democrat out
of habit and out of the stereotype, the negative stereotype
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of the GOP. So one of the reasons I'm so
optimistic is that we're starting to see it happened in layers, right,
but the day is going to come when a whole
lot tipping point kind of moment when a whole lot
of people who normally vote Democrat start voting Republican. And
you don't need that many flips to all of a
sudden dramatically change landscape. But I get the Colorado is
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a harder nut to crack. But on this Independence Day weekend,
it's good to remember the bigger the challenge, right, the
bigger the privilege. Three h three someone three eight two
five five takes d an five seven seven three nine.
In the Big Beautiful Bill, we have forty million dollars
set aside and it'll just be seed money. The final
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cost will be much more, but worth it for President
Trump's Garden of American Heroes lifetime statues of two hundred
and fifty American heroes. If we were to do that
kind of Garden of Colorado hero say down at the Capitol,
and first you'd have to start to protect the Capitol
in downtown.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
But who should be in that garden? Love your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
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Speaker 8 (18:34):
You're on the Dan Caplish, you're listening to the Dan
Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 10 (18:46):
They even get tired of winning, and you'll say, please, please,
it's too much winning. We can't take it anymore, mister President.
It's too much and I'll say.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
We have to keep winning. We have to win more.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
We're gonna win more.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
We gotta be top ten. Trump sound never get tired
of that bite. And what a perfect day to play.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It, right, I mean, we're heading into Independence Day weekend.
Just a monumental win on the big beautiful bill. And
imagine how tough it had to be to herd those
cats to get that through with such narrow margins. And
obviously it doesn't happen without the big role that President
Trump has been on, a great job by the Speaker
and by John Thuns. So yeah, the whole idea behind this,
(19:31):
obviously is to fuel economic growth to increase government revenues
that way to tackle that and deficit. And President Trump
obviously firmly committed to saving America that way because something's
got to change, right, I mean, if we continue on
the current road, then America will meet economic rule. So
(19:53):
something has to change. Trump committed to doing it through growth.
This bill designed to accomplish that. I think he has
certainly proven that he understands the American economy and how
to make it work. And he's had tremendous success under
very adverse circumstances, particularly in the first term, so trust
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him and be anxious to see this go to work.
So we've been talking about a few individual pieces, but
one that's also really intriguing is there's forty million in here,
and it'll just be the seed money, right, but forty
million in here for a garden of American heroes and
it's going to be two hundred and fifty statues and
then there'll be a process for deciding who gets in
(20:33):
there of American heroes from all different walks of life.
And I love this idea, assuming they pick the right
people and they do it right of you know, the
school kids who go to DC and the rest of us,
you know, just wandering through this big garden and these
life size figures, and then they'll be all the interactive stuff,
right And yes, so I probably be able to play
(20:56):
catch with Mickey Mantle, or at least canical version of
Mickey Mantle. So I love this concept, and in Colorado,
I would not trust it in lefty hands right now.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Can you imagine who they'd put in the garden.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
But I'd love to see that once the state regains
its sanity. I'd love to see it up around the
Capitol and Civic Center Park, and you know, the kids
would be able to see like what we value, you know,
the people who represent the things we really value. So
asking you who would you want in there? So we're
talking about that, We're talking about lots of other things.
(21:30):
Three h three someone three A two five five, text,
d an.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Five seven seven three nine? Who would you want in there?
The Colorado Garden of Heroes?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So obviously, I mean, I think everybody a top choice
for everybody. And I'm biased here because I've had the
privilege of representing Kendrick Castio's amazing parents, John and Maria.
But yeah, Kendrick Castio would have to be in there.
Text or Dan Kendrickkesis comes to my mind. Beyond that,
(22:02):
never a politician that isn't at least fifty years deceased.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I you know, I don't know that i'd want to.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Would you want a hardline un deceased?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Maybe you'd have to have that, But yeah, maybe you
have to have that just to be safe, Like it
drives me crazy. I like Frederick Opina fine, I mean
we differ politically, but the times I've met him, like
youth baseball stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like the guy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But the idea you've got one of the major roads
in Hall of Colorado named after a living guy, a
Democrat politician.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, I don't buy that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, if you're going to do that, then you
have to have I twenty five named after Bill Owens, Right,
a great Republican governor, a great two term Republican governor, or,
should be something named after him. But I think you've
got to be naming stuff after first. You got to
be naming stuff after people who've died for the state,
for the country, their life for the state or the country.
(23:02):
So you got to have Kendrick Castillo gave his life
to save his classmates and teachers. You got to have
Dave Sanders gave his life to save his students at Columbine.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think you'd have to have Danny Diets in there,
you know, Navy seal hero.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And then I think one of the big challenges would
be we have so many, particularly this date right and
our military tradition, we have so many military heroes from
this state.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
How do you choose who goes in and who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Same with law enforcement people who broke heroically given their
lives people who've heroically risked death to save others and
did not die in the process.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
So yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Would be quite a challenge narrowing it down, assuming you
went with kind of the same two fifty number, and
there would have to be some space limitation, right, So yeah,
I'd love to hear from you who you would like
to see in there.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But can you.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Imagine the other thing your thoughts on if the left
was to do that now, which which it won't, right,
I mean, just the whole idea heroes kind of thing
anesthetical to the hard left that controls the Democratic Party.
But if they were to do that, who do you
think they'd put in there?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Oh? My goodness, all.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Right, I want to get to some of our texters.
Dan of Colorado is to have a garden of heroes
that should celebrate our military heroes like William Crawford, Drew Dick,
Sector Flores and others.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
And it goes on from there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Dan. I called a Congressman's office yesterday about the big
beautiful bill, and at the end of the call, I
wish the person on the phone a happy Fourth of July,
and they replied with happy Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Now?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't often say agreeting to people on fourth of July. However,
I feel a special sense of celibratory and I'm proud
this year interesting because I found the transition for me
to be very easy because for the first few years
of my life, I've always said happy fourth of July
or referred to it as the fourth of July. And
then we had a Texter take me to task for
(25:07):
that earlier in the show, and you know, it's Independence Day,
and Texter's right. So I think the last five times
I've referred to it on the show today with guests,
et cetera, it's been Independence Day, and it rolls off
the tongue. So I think that is a thing, and
I get it. And I get it mainly because you know,
people didn't die for the date on the calendar. They
(25:30):
died for our independence and it is one of the
greatest gifts in the history of the world, right, this
kind of independence and freedom.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
So I get it, and I am now an.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Independence Day guy, just like Christmas. And listen, you can't
compare anything to Christmas, right, because that's God. But yeah,
I mean, I'm an Independence Day guy. I'm sure I'll
slip here and there Warren in Colorado Springs here on
the dancap plashow.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Welcome.
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Yeah, I want to talk to you about how much
I have to this buying Colinborder got well. I was
living for fifteen years before I move back to Colorado.
I lived Becore, leaning out of Hope. I'm familiar with
the Idaho situation, but I hate our legal system for
being able to put that guy off well penalty. I
just can't stand their all legal system because it makes
(26:16):
me so irritated. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah. Yeah, and that is particularly maddening.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I haven't dug into the details, but does he actually
have some opportunity even in theory, for parole or is
he just locked in for life.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
For certain Well, I'd say he's locked in for life. Yeah,
there's no chance of parole, but big deal. You can
possibly escape or he can read legal books and figure
out a way to get out within ten or fifteen years.
That's happened before.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, And I understand if you have family members there,
and sometimes family members are divided. Because I represent my
civil practice, sometimes folks who've had somebody murdered and then
there's a civil case that arives from it. Sometimes you
have family members who would get great comfort from the
death penalty. Sometimes they are family members who who don't
want the death penalty for personal or religious reasons, et cetera.
(27:05):
But how frustrating for those who want it.
Speaker 11 (27:08):
There against the death penalty the way it celebrating this country.
If they gave the death penalty, he'd still lived for
ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (27:16):
Yeah, But as far as I'm concerned, now, you're going
to think this about Aric, because I already feel about
this guy. If there are some male relatives that would
like to take him and do whatever they want with him,
I'd say give him to him.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
You think the law should be changed to allow that?
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Yes, interesting, because I feel I've lost somebody close when
I was sixteen, family members, and I can imagine the
pain suffering I went on with those relatives to parents
and brothers and sisters and poor kids, and they just
can't stand the legal system allows that piece of garbage
(27:53):
extremate to survive and live. Yeah, away, that's all I
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, I appreciate the call. And you know the reason
I would oppose what Warren's suggesting is is not the
idea that this mass murderer doesn't deserve it. It's the
idea that our country deserves better, right, and for the
good of our nation, I think we don't want to
be punishing people in the way Warren describes. And again
(28:21):
it has nothing to do with any kind of sympathy
for protection of these evil, demon acting murderers. It's more
the good of our country. Three h three someone three
eight two five five. Hey, we'll we come back to
some more callers and texts for the president now, and
I'm glad he's going to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
A big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's going to get his Garden of American Heroes two
hundred and fifty life sized statues. If we were to
have a garden of Colorado heroes, who would you want
in there? And then a recreation of a great George
Washington speech to up celebrate Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
This may be the most important vote that any of
us take in our entire lifetimes, and everybody better remember it.
However you vote today, my friends, the President of the
United States is waiting with his pen. The American people
are waiting for this relief. We've heard enough talk. It's
time for action. Let's finish the job for him. Vote
yes on the bill.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Boy, They got it done too.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
No matter what you think about the content of the bill,
it is so impressive they were able to get it done.
And Trump hashon he knows what he's talking about when
it comes to this nation's economy, and he absolutely believes
what's in this bill is going to fuel massive growth,
which will generate the government revenue to then lower debts
(29:47):
and deficits. And we've got to do that right so,
and then the bit about defunding planned parenthood, very very
excited to see that. I want to get into the
particulars over the weekend and get a good grip on that,
the certainty of that, and to make sure it's absolute,
and then we could talk about that some more next week.
I want to get you a little bit from this
(30:07):
recreation of a George Washington speech as we head into
Independence Day weekend.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
You have done all I have asked you to do
and more, But your country is at stake. Your wives,
youre homes, and all you hold dear. You have worn
yourselves out with fatigues and hardships. If you will consent
to stay one month longer. You will render that service
to the cause of liberty into your country, which you
(30:34):
can probably never do under any other circumstance. Again, the
drums rolled, and this time all the men began stepping
forward to God Almighty wrote with Daniel Green, inclined their
hearts to listen to the proposal, and they engaged a new.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean, you think about the difference.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm sure you've seen it in your own life, right,
maybe you've been that gygao, But you think about the
difference leadership, mate, and it's made throughout the history of
our country. And if you don't have this leader at
this moment, things just go off the rails, right, and
we probably just don't have anywhere near the same nation or.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
World that we do today.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So it goes back to her at the end of
the Declaration of Independence, where all these folks, all these guys,
and you can be sure their wives had the same attitude, right,
or they probably wouldn't have been doing it is with
reliance on divine providence, right, that they pledge each other
their lives, their fortune, their sacred honors. So yeah, and
(31:36):
awful lot of people who believe President Trump is the
man for this moment. And I'm one of those as
well who believe that. And that doesn't mean I'm good
with every single thing he's ever sun or said or done.
Nobody'd ever say that about anybody in history. But it
goes back to us we talked about, and we're coming
up on the anniversary now, right of that assassination attempt
(31:57):
in the Butler Field, and my belief at the time
more and more reason to believe that sense that there
was divine intervention there. And I can't know that for sure, right.
I hope to someday be in a place where I
will know that for sure. But that's my personal belief.
I know the president believes that. But then you see
all the good things he's done for the country since then,
(32:17):
and the country being spared. Can you imagine, don't even
want to think about what would have happened to this
nation if that assassin had succeeded. So, you know, another
major turning point for the better in our nation when
President Trump turned his head that afternoon and the assassin failed.
And then critically, can you imagine the presence of mind
(32:39):
in the moment, and then the courage and the coherence.
President Trump to just jump up and say fight, fight, fight,
and we talked about it. I think that following Monday
on the show, that race was essentially over there. I
think that race was over long before then, right, because
America was just it was never going to elect Joe Biden,
was never going to be the candidate come elect in America.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Wasn't gonna let Kamala Harris for very good reason.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But even if the Democrats had a candidate who could win,
the election was over when President Trump showed the ability
to do that under fire.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
So wow, what a year.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So much reason for hope, so much reason for hope
and optimism. So we got to finish the show with
this sound, right, I mean, I just put this.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Thing on a loop.
Speaker 12 (33:26):
You have done it all.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I like that too. That's not the sound I wanted
to finish the show with. I wanted to finish the
show with this.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
We're gonna win so much. You may even get tired
of winning. And you'll say, please, please, it's too much winning.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
We can't take.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
It anymore, mister President, It's too much, And I'll say, no,
it isn't.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We have to keep winning.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
We have to win more.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
We're gonna win more.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
One of the greatest Trump clips ever. And it's not
only contagious, but it builds on itself. Right when when
you talk about winning, it's contagious for the obvious reasons.
Some of it's chemical, some of it's practical, but it
builds on itself because you get these victories and then
stuff works, and then it's easier to convince people to
keep going further down this road with more victories, whether
(34:13):
you're talking about peace or strength, whether you're talking about
the economy. And then what I believe we're in the
middle of experiencing together is then you're going to get
to the point where, come twenty twenty eight, and this
would have happened without COVID, right, If COVID had not happened,
Trump would have had a consecutive term, a second turn
back to back. Then you would have had a Republican
elected in twenty four because it would have been so
(34:35):
much continuing success under Trump. And that's what we're on
track for here. It's not guaranteed, right, everybody has to
do their thing, but you're just going to have this
success continue to build on itself to the point where
the GOP nominee. Particularly with the deep bench, the GOP
has has a very very good chance to win in
twenty eight and then as long as they keep doing
(34:56):
the right stuff, because that's the thing is a former Democrat,
had took me a long time to come to appreciate
these conservative ideas. The conservative approach really does work, and
so America sees it continuing to work, and then you're
going to have more and more GOP presidents.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
That's going to perpetuate. Zach, you're the best man. Thank
you for that. Kelly, have a great weekend, enjoy it all.
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