October 10, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's show, Dan looks at Donald Trump's successes and discusses where he ranks among the greatest Americans ever.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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five seven, seven, three nine. I want to get into
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something very very important to me and I hope it's
important to you as well. Who are the top five
Americans ever the entire history of the country. Where does
Trump rank in the top pick at five, ten, fifteen, twenty.
Who are the top five Colorado's in history? I just
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think it's so important to think about this, right, because
it's like gravity is so fascinating with this whole twenty
four to seven news cycle that's developed and then just
kind of exploded exponentially, right, It like reaches out and
grips you and grips the country. I think it causes
us to focus way too much on the negative. Now,
certain negative you have to focus on, right so it
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doesn't kill you. And certain negative we have to focus
on because we want to fix it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're put on this planet to fix it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But but just the need to focus on the positive
more often so. Plus, I think it's a really interesting question.
You know, who are the top five Americans?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We may be forced to brun that list out a
little bit, and where would Trump rank. I think that's
really fun to talk about, because you know, when you
think about the Washingtons, the Lincoln's, the FDRs, the JFK's,
e mlks, et cetera, you know, you've got people who
some people considered polarizing. Obviously in the case of Abraham
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Lincoln because he was standing up for freedom and humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had the Celts that at that time this very
horrific view when it came to slavery in particular. You know,
Lincoln was very polarizing in the eyes of the South.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But with with.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Donald Trump, you have somebody who is uniquely polarizing but
also uniquely great in historical terms in terms of effectiveness
on the issues that matter most. And he's I think
done so many revolutionary in all the most positive ways
things for America that are going to benefit this nation
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long after he's gone.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So love your taking all that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
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We'll do a lot of this by text today, obviously,
which I was thinking this morning. I love listening to
Michael Brown Show, and I was thinking this morning how
much it's changed, Zach. When did you start in talk radio?
Ryan is on his way to the airport. It's going
to take a quick trip home this weekend. How long
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you've been in talk radio?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Probably since about I'm trying to think it would have
been twenty nineteen, let's say somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, So you're probably the post call era, right, because
I think this is one of the few shows that
still does callers. I mean, I just.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Love callers, and I hope we always have callers, But
so much as shifted to text, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's easier for the person texting in, and for a host.
It can be great if people keep them short and
die young and you just bang bang bang, and you
spin off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But I missed the callers.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I do too, honestly, like as as someone who grew
up in that era of radio, not working it, but
listening to it. There's something gritty and personal about hearing
just the real people share their views.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, and your last part where you can have the
back and forth right in the exchange of ideas, and
so yeah, I'd love to get a lot more of that,
love to get a lot more of that.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And if you're new to the show, hey.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's not you know, like we try to embarrass or
anything else. People who disagree, No, we welcome them. We'd
send the limo if we had one. And because that's
where you just get that battle of ideas going. And
I think it's it's much more valuable. But I understand
it's just not the way it's done anymore most places,
and most people who listen to talk radio three out
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it from a caller's standpoint.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have you ever called a talk shows ach? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I think I called Broncos react or twice before I
worked here.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's funny. I was gonna say say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I called the koa show on the Broncos before I
got into talk radio. I think John Beech was on
the old GM of the Broncos, and I wanted to say,
why don't you sign Tom Ruin as a punter, And
because Tom was a buddy of mine, and I remember
John Beachyah nice, he was polite, but he gave some
dismissive answer and then pretty soon Tom's kicking firming the
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super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But yeah, look at that. Maybe you're the reason why. No, No,
I think that was in spite of me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I remember my mom calling a talk radio show
and the host was really abusive to her, and I
just remember thinking to myself, if I ever have that job,
I'm going to do that to anybuddy.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But yeah, my mom handled them.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But it was also isn't it weird now that I
think about it was also a sports show in Chicago
she had called one night after a Bear game.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The hosted rude to her.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But how great that was that my mom cared enough
about the Bears that she'd call a talk show. But
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Speaker 2 (05:29):
So and I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
To see what people say about the five Greatest Colorados,
because you know, we all think about right American history
and just different great American figures and that's always a
fun conversation. But even more fun about when you start
to think about where Trump fits and assuming this Mid
East peace deal goes through only Cow with a bullet
right moving up the charts, But Colorado people don't focus
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on it that often. I wonder, as you're driving down,
maybe you're an twenty five, maybe you're up in the
mountains somewhere, just what your first flash thought was on
the greatest Colorados, because that's where I don't think we'd
have much uniformity at all in at least the population
of Colorado. You take all Americans, and I think you'd
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have an awful lot of consistency when it comes to
the top five, the top ten, But Coloradin's probably not
so much, just because we don't think a whole lot
about it. Dan, just listening to Hickenlooper's comment, I think
we need to remind people the taxpayers are the ones
who pay government employees wages.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That includes federal and state. It's time we reduce the government.
I think our Texter, articulate Texter, needs to think of
the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
There was a comment from Hickenloper. We know he's still
with us. That's a good thing. I like John Hickenlooper,
I don't like his politics. I like him personally, but
how would you ever know that he was even still
on the planet and has there ever been a state? Seriously,
has there ever been a state? And this is we're
very fortunate to have this here where you've had two
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less of fact, give US senators at the same time
that Nick and Hooper and Bennett, which is a great
thing for us, right, I mean, if a Democrat is
going to win, you want that Democrat to be as
ineffective as possible. And just stepping back, who would argue
that the two least effective US senators in our lifetime
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have been Michael Bennett and John Hickenlooper. I mean, the
scoreboard doesn't lie, just look at it. Yeah, So we're
very fortunate that way. We'd be more fortunate if we
had a Republican senator or two. But if you got
to have Democrats, these are the two you want because
they don't do anything. So that's a good news is
that John, who's often a very nice guy and has
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always been nice to me and the family when we've
been around him, is still with us.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So that is good here.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Hopefully he'll still be with us for many years, but
not as a US senator. Hopefully somebody will pop up
and beat him. In this cycle, you don't hear much
at all about the US Senate race. I guess everybody's
just assuming that and Looper is going to win. Let's
start with Yvonne. I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly. I
never know when you have the Y before the V
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is the why silent or hard? So we'll start with Yvonne.
You're on the Dane Caplis.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You'll welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hi actually has pronounced either Yvonne or Yvonne.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
One is one.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Older French, the other's more modern French.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was close, I was close.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Are you French or hey, are you French?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah. So one of the people that I think is
pretty amazing that has been here in the state of
Colorado long dead was Mary Miller. She founded the town
of Lafayette, Colorado. She was one of the first bankers,
female bankers in the state. God eighteen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. Yeah.
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She made sure that all of the homes on the
west side or the east side of South Public Road.
I know, that's confusing, it is, and Lafayette had really
big backyards so that all the miners' children would have
places to play.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh cool, Now is there anything big named after her?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, the city of Lafayette is actually named after her
husband Lafayette.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Also, it was kind of a sexist thing, right, it
really should have been named after her.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I kind of sometimes think, so.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, yeah, fascinating. Now are you a historian.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
My first job was in the Lafayette Library and I
was sorting periodicals, and the boss helped to start to
found the Lafayette History Museum, And so I got to
hear all the old miners come in and give their
testimonies on cassette tapes, and they all pretty much all
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of them seem to have black lung and the gurgliest
coffee you've ever heard. It was disgusting. Yeah, it was
kind of cool to hear them.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Man, I love that. Well, thank you, thanks so much
for Colin. Appreciate that you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They take care. Yeh see. I love this.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Three or three seven three eight two five five text
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top really hotlines on this, this question of top Coloradin's
in history. We're also doing, you know, top Americans in
history and where would Trump rank? But would love to
hear more about top Colorado's because that's where I think
we'd we'd hear a lot of names we haven't heard before,
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like the one we just did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It is a little gray for Colorado right now. Yeah. Yeah, Personally,
I'd rather hear a little sunshine on my shoulder or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Great to have zach in. Ryan's catching a flight, gonna
head home for the weekend. Three all three seven, one,
three eight, two five five the number, Hey, getting great
callers on this. We're talking about the I've had to
expand the list now Top ten Colorado's in the history
of the state had a great caller first about Mary Miller,
founder of Flafayette.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Excuse me, not emotional. It's peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It sounds the same though, So I guess if I
ever become an actor and I need to get emotional,
I'll just eat some peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Or maybe that's an allergy. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I should have that checked. Gotta have a lot of
things checked anyway. So Top ten Colorado has a lot
of Texters on this as well.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
D An five seven, seven.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Three nine Dan Michael Bennett might make the list because
he's clearly the genesis of the voice for mister Mackie
on South Park. I don't watch South Park. Do you
know that reference zac mister Mackie.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, Ryan does a good impression of it. The okay,
I ill butcher it okay.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And mister Mackie, he has a prominent role in the show.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The school counselor who advises kids, you know, don't do drugs.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Drugs are bad and good. That's kind of his his thing,
good advice.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
How many people have drugs are ruined? I mean, and
this is you don't want to talk about drugs peoples.
You know, let's say it's some moral judgment. No, it's
not at all. It's just a practical thing. But you
think about how many people they've ruined, right, And do
you get these modern draw You get them like the
dope now you can't even call it marijuana, it's krakawana.
And they just want to hook people forever. Yeah, sad, Sorry,
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didn't mean to digress this very positive topic. Dan, How
about Baby dough Tabor, Mary Elitch, Bill Armstrong, John Andrews
and Bill Owens. That from Alexa, we have another texture
in addition to our friend Alexa.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
On bill Owens there's a lot to be said for that, right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think he's now our only Republican governor in the
last let me do some fifty or sixty years and
heck of a governor, heck of a two term governor.
So yeah, you'd have to have bill Owens up there somewhere,
high end list. And Bill Armstrong was just a great man,
just a great man. Yeah, just just fantastic. What a
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force in Colorado. So yeah, taking names, d An five
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unsinkable Molly Brown.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Dan. Bill Owens got to be on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
The list of great colour Udens. Also, Douglas Bruce should
be knighted for bringing us Tabor and uh yeah, Tabor,
great thing, long lasting.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'm so disappointed. What do you mean you would send
the limo if you had one? All the times you
promise tis Tisk the real Ralph. Great to know it's
the real Ralph. And the truth is it's it's in
the shop. I don't have a limo. Our our firm
has head a vehicle that we got it's technically a limo.
Bought it from Tom Brady, the quarterback, and it's we
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just you know, we're traveling all over the state doing work.
So I wanted something that I and our other lawyers
could just sit and work in on these long trips
so we could be very productive. And Tom Brady had
one made so that he could use it to go
to and from the Patriots facility and to and from games,
and so it's all specially equipped inside, so you know,
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he could work and use the playbook, and then he
had the screens put in so he could watch tape
and everything else. So it worked out great for our lawyers.
And yeah, so but it is literally in the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Shop, so we can't send it for you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But it's not a limo like, hey, we're gonna go
out to eat, let's jump in the limo.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, it's for work. Yeah, and it worked for him.
It's a pretty sweet setup though.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man, I'll tell you it was so wild because when
we first got it, and it's just one of the
best investments we ever made because of the productivity. But
when we first got it, our son, who probably like us,
that just very good with the technical stuff. You know,
he was in there getting some stuff wired up on
the screen because.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We in our job.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
We watch a lot of video of different things pertaining
to our cases. So he's getting it hooked up so
we could watch some video, and all of a sudden
I get a call and guy says, Tom wants to
know why somebody's on his Netflix. He had Tom Brady
had not disconnected the net Netflix, and I guess Joe
was sitting in there watching a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
He was setting us up on the system.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So we got to see what Tom and Giselle, because
they were together at the time, watch on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
What would you think?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I mean, that's a fascinating glimpse into their I feel like, yeah,
I think documentaries, but it's probably just normal kind of
flock that everyone watches.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Why, Zach, you are so right, it was That's exactly
what I said. Hey, this is just normal stuff like
we'd have on our Netflix.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah. Yeah, and maybe that's a surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Maybe it isn't, but anyway, so yeah, sorry real Ralph
that we can't send the limo, but it's literally in
the shop.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
One of my favorite Colorados was William Armstrong. He served
our nation in Congress for ten years and then got
out as he felt one should serve the nation and
then get out. He was also a founder of Cherry
Creek Mortgage, where I worked for thirteen years. There was
never a more god fearing American patriot. That's from Jenna
in Springfield, Missouri. Boy haven't had the pleasure of getting
to know Billing Allen a little bit. I would have
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to agree with the greatness. There is no doubt about
that Colorado Christian University on top of that wonderful family. Yeah,
he would have to be up there on the list.
You think Colorado should have its own Mount Rushmore? I mean,
we got so many mountains.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'd love something. We wouldn't want to do anything to
the flat Irons, but we should have our own Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I mean, like you said, there's plenty and plenty that
are even undeveloped on the western slope. It could even
maybe bring tourism to that side of the state.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Zach, That is good thinking. By the way, can somebody
tell me what's happening? Because this is an outrage. I
drive down Bellevue on the way home. You know, we're
in the south part of town and it looks like
they're strip mining, like literally strip mining.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Zach? A?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Big swaths of the foothills. If you're driving down Bellevue West,
do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I have no idea what they're doing, but I've
seen that driving and I think the same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Total outrage. This is Colorado, that's our legacy, it's our heritage,
it's our sacred duty to protect it. Bugs me when
I'm driving up by seventy and I see that big
quarry where they've cut a mountain or two up. But
I understand, we got to have a lot of gravel
and everything else to have a civilized society.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But to be.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Strip mining that the front of the foothills, somebody's got
to know. Somebody in this audience has to know what
that's all about. Could somebody please call or text us
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your point, Zach, Since they've already strip mined this big
swath of the foothills now south of Denver, maybe that's
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where we put Colorado's Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But who would be on it? Colorado should have its.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Own Mount Rushmore. We got the mountains. Who should be
on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Three h three seven one three
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three nine And while we're at an America, where would
Donald Trump fit on the list of the greatest Americans?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Top five, top ten? Where would you put them? If
you're on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I flashed back to the first car I got after
I passed the bar, which was this used Chrysler K
Car convertible, and uh, I think it was how do
you pronounce it, Sarday? Is that how you pronounced her?
Smooth Operator? It sounds like that song Smooth Operator. It's yeah,
I'm probably I.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Think similar eras this one's from U seventy four.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh yeah, you know this would have been more like
I passed the bar. They swore me in October thirty
one of eighty three, and then then bought the car
pretty soon after that, not right away.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I had to save some money. The first time I
went to court, I hitchhiked. Not not the greatest look
if you're the client, isn't that you're a lawyer on
the corner. Do we want to pick him up? Yeah? No,
I hitchhiked a sixth and canyon down to the Justice Center.
That's pretty far out. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
One thing though, if you're going to hitchhike to court,
you better win, So yeah, I was a good incentive
to win. Speaking of which, Shador Sanders promoted to Brown's
backup quarterback. Don't worry, We're not going to launch in
the x's and o's, but which means he will soon
be the starter for the Browns because he's superior to
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Dylan Gabriel, the current starter. I mean, Shehdory Sanders is.
He's a first round draft choice talent, you know who
just made some unfortunate comments. But in terms of talent
and ability, yeah, he's going to be a great NFL
quarterback if he wants to be. And when I say
that if he wants to be, that's not in a
negative way. It's just the guy has so much going
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for him and he's got a great brain, he's got
great looks, you know, comes from a great family, he's
got a ton of money already, and so at that point,
could you blame him if he decided he doesn't want
to get his brains beat.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Out on the football field. So I think the only
question with him is whether he really wants to do that.
If he does, he's he's going to be a great
starter in the league.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That is not our topic for today, unfortunately, but we
have a good one. We're talking about the top ten
Colorado's in the history of the state and gets some
real good calls and text on that related issue is
should Colorado have its own Mount Rushmore? Makes a lot
of sense, doesn't it. I mean, we've got plenty of
mountains and it would be it be a tourist attraction.
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Should we have our own Mount Rushmore? And who should
be on it?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Three or three?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Someone three eight two five five text d An five
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phone lines, a text or Dan, no all caps on
the Mount Rushmore for Colorado is a sixty plus year
old native.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Leave my dang mountains alone. If someone wants to enjoy
the mountains, get out of your car, hike and be
sure to carry out your trash and your little doggie
bags or teach your dog to go well off the trail.
It ain't that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure that's the majority view when it
comes to Colorado having its own Mount Rushmore. And the
reason I'm not sure that is because I'm pretty down
certain that this show today is the first time that's
ever been suggested in Colorado, which is pretty exciting when
you think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Let's go down a.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Beautiful Colorado Springs and talk to Ross. I'm a little
I think I can guess who Russ is going to suggest,
given that he's calling from Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Ross, welcome to the Dan cap Sure.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Good afternoon, counselor Dan, how are you living the dream?
I was not necessarily most important, but definitely notable. I
wound up back in the seventies flying Dick Lamarm because
the insurance company foun out he is flying around with
the sixty five year old highway engineer without instrum rating.
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The insurance company was really really concerned, and it's part
putter quid proprio. I agree to teach the guy for
his INTROI rating them. Anyway, we do a day trip
to Grand Josh. As you recall, and people of our
agent will recall, he was the torch bearer to cancel
the seventy sixth Eleft Spring Yeah, which I didn't think
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was a great idea because it could have had a
lot of basically free infrastructure way back when when the
cost was down. But anyway, we're coming back from Grand Junction.
We landed Stapleton and this gaggle of reporters and I said,
what's going on here? Well, he had said the day
before that he felt that people had a dude to
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die die, and I said, you gotta get well. Now
he changed his turn when he got close to sixty.
Kind of thought he got to spend some time with
his grandkids and whatnot. Oh, he kind of changed his turn.
But anyway, that was kind of what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Also, I remember the old duty to die thing Russ.
Was that really at age sixty?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Yeah, he actually said we have a duty to die
at age sixty the next generation.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And then hey, wasn't that the seventy six Olympics. Wasn't
that going to be Winter Olympics up in the mountains?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Yeah, and he cared it towards to cancel it. Yeah,
got canceled.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Personal opinion, I think a big mistake there was. Also
we can talk about some other time. There's a quick
pro pro. The reason I got involved is the help
me Edward for we're trying to sell him my new
three ronid dollar airplane, which they still have on the
condition that I teach this highway engineered position right that
actually happened. He would probably be a court case by now.
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I would also throw in Ben Nighthorse Campbell. I got
to know him fairly well, and you know, he was
a great guy. He started, as you know, as a Democrat,
switched to Republicans. He was an Olympic contender in Judo,
has a great jewelry operation. Just a very very sharp guy.
And I really cared about the state and people.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So yeah, appreciate the call. Man, great to hear from you.
Thank you. What a great start.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'd love this topic because of the really interesting people
we're hearing from, like the first woman who called and
was talking about Mary Miller, founder of Flossie. He had
Colorado and things like that. But I got to tell
you about Dick Lamb because you know, for me, my foundational.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Issue is the life issue, pro life.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But if you're going to talk about the top five
coolest pro abortion advocates I've ever met, Dick Lamb would
be very.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
High on that list because we ended up. I ended up.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I was student Boddy president at CU and I pushed
a bill that he then signed, and so I got
invited to his office and then he ended up. I
invited him up to see you, to talk to a
group and this, and he came up and I just
got to know him a little bit, and he was
such a cool guy. It was such a cool guy.
And we were polar opposites, obviously on the life issue, but.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He'd discussed it right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
He's not like so many of the lefties now just
try to shut you down or call you names.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He was just a very cool cat.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Do you ever have him on a show, because we
had him on shows a bunch.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I have in cross paths with him. But he had
a really cool guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Very very very cool guy, and just good memories of him.
And and I know, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Hey, listen, that's the life and death issue, right this
this issue is at my core. And yet I can.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Still easily be friends with people who are on the
other side of it, and he was.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He was one of them. Unfortunately, he was.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
A very powerful and effective force for the pro abortion movement.
But separate apart from that, he was just a cool guy.
Three h three someone three two five five the number
text d A N five seven seven three nine. What
do you think this idea originating on this show, Zach.
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I want to make sure I get this right. Was
this your idea or my idea? Because I don't want
to take credit for it. If it was your idea,
that was your.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Idea, thank you. I was hoping you say that, But
was it actually yours? Oh it was bad. To my knowledge,
it was your idea. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Thank you, because that's that's one of my better ideas, Kyle.
And then you said, yeah, it'd be a great tourist attraction.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So I suggested Western Slope maybe just because we don't
have a ton going on right there, but that was
my contribution.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You you suggested the Rashmore part.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You could have two. You could have front Range and
Western Slope.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, I could have Yeah. But again, like you said,
they've got plenty of mountains.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I got to tell you this, and we're getting
great text on this. I'll get to it in a second.
But one of the many just phenomenally great things about
this long trial I just had in Glenwood Springs is
it's the first time I've spent really extended time on
what and Glenwood Springs is considered part of the Western slope,
though it's obviously not all the way to Grand Junction.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Man, have you spent time up Tarzech barely any? I
think like driving through to go to Moab or something.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
But that's been with me, same with me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
This is the first time we settled in, because we
were settling in for a three week trial, and we
got there before the trial began. Phenomenal, like a slice
of heaven, that whole Roaring Fork Valley area. And I
just remember reporting back to our team because I went
up way early to settle in and just get to
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know the area better. Just remember porting back. Everybody's happier
up there. Everybody's happier up there, And I get it
because it's beautiful, incredibly beautiful, and nowhere near as congested.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is like you get down into veil or stuff like.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That, and.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Just beautiful, naturally beautiful, which I think helps explain why
everybody's happier, right, because think about it. If you're hey,
the front range is beautiful, right, I appreciate it every day.
But if you're up there surrounded by beauty every day,
you've got a lot less congestion and just a really interesting, normal,
talented population. They got something really good going on up there.
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So yeah, you could have Colorado's Mount Rushmore on the
west slope and then one on the front range. So
who would be on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five takes dam five seven seven
three nine.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Top ten coloraddens in the state's history, and I think
a very bright idea we came up with on this show.
Should we have our own Mount Rushmore, one on the
front range, one on the western slope, and who should
be on it? Jennifer from Parker, You're on the Dan
Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Welcome, Hey Dan.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I love hearing you talk about the Western Slope and
your time in Glenwood Springs because I spent almost twenty
years over there before coming to this side of the mountain,
and people over here don't.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Really understand the Western Slope and.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
How wonderful it is, and the people are, like you said,
you know, really kind and it's just a beautiful place
to be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I tell you, I was stunned because I've lived in
this state how many decades, and I I had no
idea I knew of it and drove through, but until
you settle in for a while, I had no idea
how beautiful it was, how much they have going on
up there. And yeah, now where were you on the
western Slope.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I was in Gunnison, Okay, and the Gunnison Crestibute.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
And you talk about, you know, the more remote of
an area you get to, I think the better it is.
You were talking about how some areas are more congested
and have that tourism overrun, you know, overrun with tourism.
Gunnison and Crest but are really unique because they're on
Highway fifty, the only way in and out, and really.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
A special place.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You should get up there if you ski.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah I do, but I'd love to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I got to tell you I didn't feel at
all is if glenn Wood Springs was too congested or anything.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I thought, you know, absolutely beautiful and a wonderful small town.
I mean, it struck me as and I've only spent
a little time in Aspen, but it struck me as
almost like Aspen without the ski resort, but just a.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Really cool town.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And yeah, the whole thing was everybody on the trial team,
and we had a very big team. Everybody on the
trial team, everybody who flew in for trial, different witnesses,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Everybody loved it. Yeah, so there's something.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Going on up there court community.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah yeah. And do you agree with me that the
support community for asthen do.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You agree that everybody just seems happier up there? I mean,
like in general there's less stress. Yeah, exactly. Well, Hey,
you're around the beauty, you're around the natural beauty, and
then there's less congestion, less traffic, less stress.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Well, I got to tell you, I've been here about
three years and my stress level definitely went up on
the front range. I used to work downtown. Now I've
moved out to Parker, so I've kind of come down
in the stress level. But you know, I'll probably go
back to the Western Slope, you know, eventually to retire.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, what a really pleasant surprise. So what about what
about Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Who would be on it?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I didn't think this went through.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No need. We don't do much thinking around John Elway. Well,
that gives a quote.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Do you have different Do you have different Mount rushmorees
by category? I'm not sure we'd want to have that
many Mount rushmorees.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But let's say just open ended.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, would John Elway be, say, one of the top
ten Colorado's in history.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Jennifer really appreciate the call. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I'm glad Jennifer introduced the whole sports category, so
we're just talking, we're not talking separate categories. Colorado has
one Mount Rushmore and you're going to have four spots
on it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Who should be on it? Would you have John Elway?
I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Do you think people would choose John if they were
going sports, if they were on football, would they choose
John Elway?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Would they choose Peyton Manning?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Would be if we were going to have a football
player on there to me, and I think Peyton Manning's phenomenal,
a great gift to this state. But John Elway, even
though he messed up the Tim Tebow thing and messed
up as GM, he is so underappreciated as an NFL quarterback.
And you go back and you watch some of that
tape of him throwing the ball and how he would
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win games almost single handedly, and how he was so
critical to the development of the Broncos. If you're going
to put a football player on Mount Rushmore, I think
it would have to be him.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Has a major hand in every Denver Broncos Super Bowl
victory obviously too as a player, and then was the
architect of the third team to win a Super Bowl.
I think not only is he number one on the
list of Colorado based football players for Colorado Mount Rushmore,
I think he's probably number one athlete in any sport.
And there's plenty a great Colorado and Olympians.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I think you nailed at zech. I think that would
have to be true.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And so then the question becomes, would you have an
athlete on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? You got four spots to
work with, who would you put there? So getting a
lot of great text on this. I think it obviously
have a bias because they have the privilege of representing
as folks, But I think Kendrick Castile should be there.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I think one of the.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
One of the challenges if we're doing a Mount Rushmore
is who do you pick to represent all the military
heroes from Colorado or is there one who stands out
who you just put on Mount Rushmore and then they're
just symbolic of everybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, so what do you do with that?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This is a good this is a good challenge because
I think we should have one. I think Colorado should
have its own Mount Rushmore. I think we need to
start focusing more on the positive and you know, for
the kids and ourselves, but not just our Mount Rushmore.
What do we call it? What do we call Colorado's
Mount Rushmore? Would somebody please text or call on that?
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One dam five seven seven three nine, trail three seven
one three A two five five the number?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
What do we call that?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And then just other things we can do to honor
like great Colorado and statues around things like that, just
to show the kids who and what we value as
a people, because right now that's kind of being hijack.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
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five seven, seven, three nine. I want to get into
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something very very important to me and I hope it's
important to you as well. Who are the top five
Americans ever the entire history of the country. Where does
Trump rank in the top pick at five, ten, fifteen, twenty.
Who are the top five Colorado's in history? I just
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think it's so important to think about this, right, because
it's like gravity is so fascinating with this whole twenty
four to seven news cycle that's developed and then just
kind of exploded exponentially, right, It like reaches out and
grips you and grips the country. I think it causes
us to focus way too much on the negative. Now,
certain negative you have to focus on, right so it
(01:05):
doesn't kill you. And certain negative we have to focus
on because we want to fix it.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We're put on this planet to fix it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
But but just the need to focus on the positive
more often so. Plus, I think it's a really interesting question.
You know, who are the top five Americans?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We may be forced to brun that list out a
little bit, and where would Trump rank. I think that's
really fun to talk about, because you know, when you
think about the Washingtons, the Lincoln's, the FDRs, the JFK's,
e mlks, et cetera, you know, you've got people who
some people considered polarizing. Obviously in the case of Abraham
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Lincoln because he was standing up for freedom and humanity.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had the Celts that at that time this very
horrific view when it came to slavery in particular. You know,
Lincoln was very polarizing in the eyes of the South.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But with with.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Donald Trump, you have somebody who is uniquely polarizing but
also uniquely great in historical terms in terms of effectiveness
on the issues that matter most. And he's I think
done so many revolutionary in all the most positive ways
things for America that are going to benefit this nation
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long after he's gone.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So love your taking all that.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Three h three seven one three eight two five five
the number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
We'll do a lot of this by text today, obviously,
which I was thinking this morning. I love listening to
Michael Brown Show, and I was thinking this morning how
much it's changed, Zach. When did you start in talk radio?
Ryan is on his way to the airport. It's going
to take a quick trip home this weekend. How long
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you've been in talk radio?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Probably since about I'm trying to think it would have
been twenty nineteen, let's say somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Okay, So you're probably the post call era, right, because
I think this is one of the few shows that
still does callers. I mean, I just.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Love callers, and I hope we always have callers, But
so much as shifted to text, and I get it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's easier for the person texting in, and for a host.
It can be great if people keep them short and
die young and you just bang bang bang, and you
spin off of that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
But I missed the callers.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I do too, honestly, like as as someone who grew
up in that era of radio, not working it, but
listening to it. There's something gritty and personal about hearing
just the real people share their views.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, and your last part where you can have the
back and forth right in the exchange of ideas, and
so yeah, I'd love to get a lot more of that,
love to get a lot more of that.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And if you're new to the show, hey.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's not you know, like we try to embarrass or
anything else. People who disagree, No, we welcome them. We'd
send the limo if we had one. And because that's
where you just get that battle of ideas going. And
I think it's it's much more valuable. But I understand
it's just not the way it's done anymore most places,
and most people who listen to talk radio three out
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it from a caller's standpoint.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Have you ever called a talk shows ach? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I think I called Broncos react or twice before I
worked here.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's funny. I was gonna say say the same thing.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I called the koa show on the Broncos before I
got into talk radio. I think John Beech was on
the old GM of the Broncos, and I wanted to say,
why don't you sign Tom Ruin as a punter, And
because Tom was a buddy of mine, and I remember
John Beachyah nice, he was polite, but he gave some
dismissive answer and then pretty soon Tom's kicking firming the
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super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But yeah, look at that. Maybe you're the reason why. No, No,
I think that was in spite of me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I remember my mom calling a talk radio show
and the host was really abusive to her, and I
just remember thinking to myself, if I ever have that job,
I'm going to do that to anybuddy.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But yeah, my mom handled them.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
But it was also isn't it weird now that I
think about it was also a sports show in Chicago
she had called one night after a Bear game.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
The hosted rude to her.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But how great that was that my mom cared enough
about the Bears that she'd call a talk show. But
three oh three someone three eight two five five takes
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Speaker 2 (05:29):
So and I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
To see what people say about the five Greatest Colorados,
because you know, we all think about right American history
and just different great American figures and that's always a
fun conversation. But even more fun about when you start
to think about where Trump fits and assuming this Mid
East peace deal goes through only Cow with a bullet
right moving up the charts, But Colorado people don't focus
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on it that often. I wonder, as you're driving down,
maybe you're an twenty five, maybe you're up in the
mountains somewhere, just what your first flash thought was on
the greatest Colorados, because that's where I don't think we'd
have much uniformity at all in at least the population
of Colorado. You take all Americans, and I think you'd
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have an awful lot of consistency when it comes to
the top five, the top ten, But Coloradin's probably not
so much, just because we don't think a whole lot
about it. Dan, just listening to Hickenlooper's comment, I think
we need to remind people the taxpayers are the ones
who pay government employees wages.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That includes federal and state. It's time we reduce the government.
I think our Texter, articulate Texter, needs to think of
the positive.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
There was a comment from Hickenloper. We know he's still
with us. That's a good thing. I like John Hickenlooper,
I don't like his politics. I like him personally, but
how would you ever know that he was even still
on the planet and has there ever been a state? Seriously,
has there ever been a state? And this is we're
very fortunate to have this here where you've had two
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less of fact, give US senators at the same time
that Nick and Hooper and Bennett, which is a great
thing for us, right, I mean, if a Democrat is
going to win, you want that Democrat to be as
ineffective as possible. And just stepping back, who would argue
that the two least effective US senators in our lifetime
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have been Michael Bennett and John Hickenlooper. I mean, the
scoreboard doesn't lie, just look at it. Yeah, So we're
very fortunate that way. We'd be more fortunate if we
had a Republican senator or two. But if you got
to have Democrats, these are the two you want because
they don't do anything. So that's a good news is
that John, who's often a very nice guy and has
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always been nice to me and the family when we've
been around him, is still with us.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So that is good here.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Hopefully he'll still be with us for many years, but
not as a US senator. Hopefully somebody will pop up
and beat him. In this cycle, you don't hear much
at all about the US Senate race. I guess everybody's
just assuming that and Looper is going to win. Let's
start with Yvonne. I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly. I
never know when you have the Y before the V
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is the why silent or hard? So we'll start with Yvonne.
You're on the Dane Caplis.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You'll welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Hi actually has pronounced either Yvonne or Yvonne.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
One is one.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Older French, the other's more modern French.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was close, I was close.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Are you French or hey, are you French?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Wow, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah. So one of the people that I think is
pretty amazing that has been here in the state of
Colorado long dead was Mary Miller. She founded the town
of Lafayette, Colorado. She was one of the first bankers,
female bankers in the state. God eighteen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. Yeah.
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She made sure that all of the homes on the
west side or the east side of South Public Road.
I know, that's confusing, it is, and Lafayette had really
big backyards so that all the miners' children would have
places to play.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh cool, Now is there anything big named after her?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, the city of Lafayette is actually named after her
husband Lafayette.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Also, it was kind of a sexist thing, right, it
really should have been named after her.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I kind of sometimes think, so.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, yeah, fascinating. Now are you a historian.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
My first job was in the Lafayette Library and I
was sorting periodicals, and the boss helped to start to
found the Lafayette History Museum, And so I got to
hear all the old miners come in and give their
testimonies on cassette tapes, and they all pretty much all
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of them seem to have black lung and the gurgliest
coffee you've ever heard. It was disgusting. Yeah, it was
kind of cool to hear them.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Man, I love that. Well, thank you, thanks so much
for Colin. Appreciate that you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They take care. Yeh see. I love this.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Three or three seven three eight two five five text
d A N five seven seven three nine. We have
top really hotlines on this, this question of top Coloradin's
in history. We're also doing, you know, top Americans in
history and where would Trump rank? But would love to
hear more about top Colorado's because that's where I think
we'd we'd hear a lot of names we haven't heard before,
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like the one we just did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
It is a little gray for Colorado right now. Yeah. Yeah, Personally,
I'd rather hear a little sunshine on my shoulder or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Great to have zach in. Ryan's catching a flight, gonna
head home for the weekend. Three all three seven, one,
three eight, two five five the number, Hey, getting great
callers on this. We're talking about the I've had to
expand the list now Top ten Colorado's in the history
of the state had a great caller first about Mary Miller,
founder of Flafayette.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Excuse me, not emotional. It's peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It sounds the same though, So I guess if I
ever become an actor and I need to get emotional,
I'll just eat some peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Or maybe that's an allergy. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I should have that checked. Gotta have a lot of
things checked anyway. So Top ten Colorado has a lot
of Texters on this as well.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
D An five seven, seven.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Three nine Dan Michael Bennett might make the list because
he's clearly the genesis of the voice for mister Mackie
on South Park. I don't watch South Park. Do you
know that reference zac mister Mackie.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, Ryan does a good impression of it. The okay,
I ill butcher it okay.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And mister Mackie, he has a prominent role in the show.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The school counselor who advises kids, you know, don't do drugs.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Drugs are bad and good. That's kind of his his thing,
good advice.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
How many people have drugs are ruined? I mean, and
this is you don't want to talk about drugs peoples.
You know, let's say it's some moral judgment. No, it's
not at all. It's just a practical thing. But you
think about how many people they've ruined, right, And do
you get these modern draw You get them like the
dope now you can't even call it marijuana, it's krakawana.
And they just want to hook people forever. Yeah, sad, Sorry,
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didn't mean to digress this very positive topic. Dan, How
about Baby dough Tabor, Mary Elitch, Bill Armstrong, John Andrews
and Bill Owens. That from Alexa, we have another texture
in addition to our friend Alexa.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
On bill Owens there's a lot to be said for that, right.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think he's now our only Republican governor in the
last let me do some fifty or sixty years and
heck of a governor, heck of a two term governor.
So yeah, you'd have to have bill Owens up there somewhere,
high end list. And Bill Armstrong was just a great man,
just a great man. Yeah, just just fantastic. What a
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force in Colorado. So yeah, taking names, d An five
seven seven three nine you want to text it, three
oh three sevene three eight two five five Dan, the
unsinkable Molly Brown.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Dan. Bill Owens got to be on.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
The list of great colour Udens. Also, Douglas Bruce should
be knighted for bringing us Tabor and uh yeah, Tabor,
great thing, long lasting.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I'm so disappointed. What do you mean you would send
the limo if you had one? All the times you
promise tis Tisk the real Ralph. Great to know it's
the real Ralph. And the truth is it's it's in
the shop. I don't have a limo. Our our firm
has head a vehicle that we got it's technically a limo.
Bought it from Tom Brady, the quarterback, and it's we
(14:03):
just you know, we're traveling all over the state doing work.
So I wanted something that I and our other lawyers
could just sit and work in on these long trips
so we could be very productive. And Tom Brady had
one made so that he could use it to go
to and from the Patriots facility and to and from games,
and so it's all specially equipped inside, so you know,
(14:25):
he could work and use the playbook, and then he
had the screens put in so he could watch tape
and everything else. So it worked out great for our lawyers.
And yeah, so but it is literally in the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Shop, so we can't send it for you.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But it's not a limo like, hey, we're gonna go
out to eat, let's jump in the limo.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
No, it's for work. Yeah, and it worked for him.
It's a pretty sweet setup though.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man, I'll tell you it was so wild because when
we first got it, and it's just one of the
best investments we ever made because of the productivity. But
when we first got it, our son, who probably like us,
that just very good with the technical stuff. You know,
he was in there getting some stuff wired up on
the screen because.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We in our job.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
We watch a lot of video of different things pertaining
to our cases. So he's getting it hooked up so
we could watch some video, and all of a sudden
I get a call and guy says, Tom wants to
know why somebody's on his Netflix. He had Tom Brady
had not disconnected the net Netflix, and I guess Joe
was sitting in there watching a movie.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
He was setting us up on the system.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
So we got to see what Tom and Giselle, because
they were together at the time, watch on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
What would you think?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
I mean, that's a fascinating glimpse into their I feel like, yeah,
I think documentaries, but it's probably just normal kind of
flock that everyone watches.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Why, Zach, you are so right, it was That's exactly
what I said. Hey, this is just normal stuff like
we'd have on our Netflix.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah. Yeah, and maybe that's a surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Maybe it isn't, but anyway, so yeah, sorry real Ralph
that we can't send the limo, but it's literally in
the shop.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
One of my favorite Colorados was William Armstrong. He served
our nation in Congress for ten years and then got
out as he felt one should serve the nation and
then get out. He was also a founder of Cherry
Creek Mortgage, where I worked for thirteen years. There was
never a more god fearing American patriot. That's from Jenna
in Springfield, Missouri. Boy haven't had the pleasure of getting
to know Billing Allen a little bit. I would have
(16:33):
to agree with the greatness. There is no doubt about
that Colorado Christian University on top of that wonderful family. Yeah,
he would have to be up there on the list.
You think Colorado should have its own Mount Rushmore? I mean,
we got so many mountains.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I'd love something. We wouldn't want to do anything to
the flat Irons, but we should have our own Mount Rushmore. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I mean, like you said, there's plenty and plenty that
are even undeveloped on the western slope. It could even
maybe bring tourism to that side of the state.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Zach, That is good thinking. By the way, can somebody
tell me what's happening? Because this is an outrage. I
drive down Bellevue on the way home. You know, we're
in the south part of town and it looks like
they're strip mining, like literally strip mining.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Zach? A?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Big swaths of the foothills. If you're driving down Bellevue West,
do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, I have no idea what they're doing, but I've
seen that driving and I think the same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Total outrage. This is Colorado, that's our legacy, it's our heritage,
it's our sacred duty to protect it. Bugs me when
I'm driving up by seventy and I see that big
quarry where they've cut a mountain or two up. But
I understand, we got to have a lot of gravel
and everything else to have a civilized society.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
But to be.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Strip mining that the front of the foothills, somebody's got
to know. Somebody in this audience has to know what
that's all about. Could somebody please call or text us
three oh three seven one three eight two five five
text d A N five seven seven three nine. But
your point, Zach, Since they've already strip mined this big
swath of the foothills now south of Denver, maybe that's
(18:07):
where we put Colorado's Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But who would be on it? Colorado should have its.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Own Mount Rushmore. We got the mountains. Who should be
on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Three h three seven one three
eight two five five text d an five seven seven
three nine And while we're at an America, where would
Donald Trump fit on the list of the greatest Americans?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Top five, top ten? Where would you put them? If
you're on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I flashed back to the first car I got after
I passed the bar, which was this used Chrysler K
Car convertible, and uh, I think it was how do
you pronounce it, Sarday? Is that how you pronounced her?
Smooth Operator? It sounds like that song Smooth Operator. It's yeah,
I'm probably I.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Think similar eras this one's from U seventy four.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh yeah, you know this would have been more like
I passed the bar. They swore me in October thirty
one of eighty three, and then then bought the car
pretty soon after that, not right away.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I had to save some money. The first time I
went to court, I hitchhiked. Not not the greatest look
if you're the client, isn't that you're a lawyer on
the corner. Do we want to pick him up? Yeah? No,
I hitchhiked a sixth and canyon down to the Justice Center.
That's pretty far out. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
One thing though, if you're going to hitchhike to court,
you better win, So yeah, I was a good incentive
to win. Speaking of which, Shador Sanders promoted to Brown's
backup quarterback. Don't worry, We're not going to launch in
the x's and o's, but which means he will soon
be the starter for the Browns because he's superior to
(20:05):
Dylan Gabriel, the current starter. I mean, Shehdory Sanders is.
He's a first round draft choice talent, you know who
just made some unfortunate comments. But in terms of talent
and ability, yeah, he's going to be a great NFL
quarterback if he wants to be. And when I say
that if he wants to be, that's not in a
negative way. It's just the guy has so much going
(20:26):
for him and he's got a great brain, he's got
great looks, you know, comes from a great family, he's
got a ton of money already, and so at that point,
could you blame him if he decided he doesn't want
to get his brains beat.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Out on the football field. So I think the only
question with him is whether he really wants to do that.
If he does, he's he's going to be a great
starter in the league.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That is not our topic for today, unfortunately, but we
have a good one. We're talking about the top ten
Colorado's in the history of the state and gets some
real good calls and text on that related issue is
should Colorado have its own Mount Rushmore? Makes a lot
of sense, doesn't it. I mean, we've got plenty of
mountains and it would be it be a tourist attraction.
(21:14):
Should we have our own Mount Rushmore? And who should
be on it?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Three or three?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Someone three eight two five five text d An five
seven seven three nine. Before I go back to the
phone lines, a text or Dan, no all caps on
the Mount Rushmore for Colorado is a sixty plus year
old native.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Leave my dang mountains alone. If someone wants to enjoy
the mountains, get out of your car, hike and be
sure to carry out your trash and your little doggie
bags or teach your dog to go well off the trail.
It ain't that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I'm not sure that's the majority view when it
comes to Colorado having its own Mount Rushmore. And the
reason I'm not sure that is because I'm pretty down
certain that this show today is the first time that's
ever been suggested in Colorado, which is pretty exciting when
you think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Let's go down a.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Beautiful Colorado Springs and talk to Ross. I'm a little
I think I can guess who Russ is going to suggest,
given that he's calling from Colorado Springs.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Ross, welcome to the Dan cap Sure.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Good afternoon, counselor Dan, how are you living the dream?
I was not necessarily most important, but definitely notable. I
wound up back in the seventies flying Dick Lamarm because
the insurance company foun out he is flying around with
the sixty five year old highway engineer without instrum rating.
(22:41):
The insurance company was really really concerned, and it's part
putter quid proprio. I agree to teach the guy for
his INTROI rating them. Anyway, we do a day trip
to Grand Josh. As you recall, and people of our
agent will recall, he was the torch bearer to cancel
the seventy sixth Eleft Spring Yeah, which I didn't think
(23:02):
was a great idea because it could have had a
lot of basically free infrastructure way back when when the
cost was down. But anyway, we're coming back from Grand Junction.
We landed Stapleton and this gaggle of reporters and I said,
what's going on here? Well, he had said the day
before that he felt that people had a dude to
(23:23):
die die, and I said, you gotta get well. Now
he changed his turn when he got close to sixty.
Kind of thought he got to spend some time with
his grandkids and whatnot. Oh, he kind of changed his turn.
But anyway, that was kind of what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Also, I remember the old duty to die thing Russ.
Was that really at age sixty?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Yeah, he actually said we have a duty to die
at age sixty the next generation.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And then hey, wasn't that the seventy six Olympics. Wasn't
that going to be Winter Olympics up in the mountains?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
That is correct?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Yeah, and he cared it towards to cancel it. Yeah,
got canceled.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Personal opinion, I think a big mistake there was. Also
we can talk about some other time. There's a quick
pro pro. The reason I got involved is the help
me Edward for we're trying to sell him my new
three ronid dollar airplane, which they still have on the
condition that I teach this highway engineered position right that
actually happened. He would probably be a court case by now.
(24:26):
I would also throw in Ben Nighthorse Campbell. I got
to know him fairly well, and you know, he was
a great guy. He started, as you know, as a Democrat,
switched to Republicans. He was an Olympic contender in Judo,
has a great jewelry operation. Just a very very sharp guy.
And I really cared about the state and people.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
So yeah, appreciate the call. Man, great to hear from you.
Thank you. What a great start.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I'd love this topic because of the really interesting people
we're hearing from, like the first woman who called and
was talking about Mary Miller, founder of Flossie. He had
Colorado and things like that. But I got to tell
you about Dick Lamb because you know, for me, my foundational.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Issue is the life issue, pro life.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But if you're going to talk about the top five
coolest pro abortion advocates I've ever met, Dick Lamb would
be very.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
High on that list because we ended up. I ended up.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I was student Boddy president at CU and I pushed
a bill that he then signed, and so I got
invited to his office and then he ended up. I
invited him up to see you, to talk to a
group and this, and he came up and I just
got to know him a little bit, and he was
such a cool guy. It was such a cool guy.
And we were polar opposites, obviously on the life issue, but.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
He'd discussed it right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
He's not like so many of the lefties now just
try to shut you down or call you names.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He was just a very cool cat.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Do you ever have him on a show, because we
had him on shows a bunch.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I have in cross paths with him. But he had
a really cool guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Very very very cool guy, and just good memories of him.
And and I know, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Hey, listen, that's the life and death issue, right this
this issue is at my core. And yet I can.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Still easily be friends with people who are on the
other side of it, and he was.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
He was one of them. Unfortunately, he was.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
A very powerful and effective force for the pro abortion movement.
But separate apart from that, he was just a cool guy.
Three h three someone three two five five the number
text d A N five seven seven three nine. What
do you think this idea originating on this show, Zach.
(26:41):
I want to make sure I get this right. Was
this your idea or my idea? Because I don't want
to take credit for it. If it was your idea,
that was your.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Idea, thank you. I was hoping you say that, But
was it actually yours? Oh it was bad. To my knowledge,
it was your idea. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Thank you, because that's that's one of my better ideas, Kyle.
And then you said, yeah, it'd be a great tourist attraction.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So I suggested Western Slope maybe just because we don't
have a ton going on right there, but that was
my contribution.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
You you suggested the Rashmore part.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You could have two. You could have front Range and
Western Slope.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, I could have Yeah. But again, like you said,
they've got plenty of mountains.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I got to tell you this, and we're getting
great text on this. I'll get to it in a second.
But one of the many just phenomenally great things about
this long trial I just had in Glenwood Springs is
it's the first time I've spent really extended time on
what and Glenwood Springs is considered part of the Western slope,
though it's obviously not all the way to Grand Junction.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Man, have you spent time up Tarzech barely any? I
think like driving through to go to Moab or something.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
But that's been with me, same with me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
This is the first time we settled in, because we
were settling in for a three week trial, and we
got there before the trial began. Phenomenal, like a slice
of heaven, that whole Roaring Fork Valley area. And I
just remember reporting back to our team because I went
up way early to settle in and just get to
(28:09):
know the area better. Just remember porting back. Everybody's happier
up there. Everybody's happier up there, And I get it
because it's beautiful, incredibly beautiful, and nowhere near as congested.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Is like you get down into veil or stuff like.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That, and.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Just beautiful, naturally beautiful, which I think helps explain why
everybody's happier, right, because think about it. If you're hey,
the front range is beautiful, right, I appreciate it every day.
But if you're up there surrounded by beauty every day,
you've got a lot less congestion and just a really interesting, normal,
talented population. They got something really good going on up there.
(28:50):
So yeah, you could have Colorado's Mount Rushmore on the
west slope and then one on the front range. So
who would be on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Three or three seven, one,
three eight, two five five takes dam five seven seven
three nine.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Top ten coloraddens in the state's history, and I think
a very bright idea we came up with on this show.
Should we have our own Mount Rushmore, one on the
front range, one on the western slope, and who should
be on it? Jennifer from Parker, You're on the Dan
Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Welcome, Hey Dan.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
I love hearing you talk about the Western Slope and
your time in Glenwood Springs because I spent almost twenty
years over there before coming to this side of the mountain,
and people over here don't.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Really understand the Western Slope and.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
How wonderful it is, and the people are, like you said,
you know, really kind and it's just a beautiful place
to be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I tell you, I was stunned because I've lived in
this state how many decades, and I I had no
idea I knew of it and drove through, but until
you settle in for a while, I had no idea
how beautiful it was, how much they have going on
up there. And yeah, now where were you on the
western Slope.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
I was in Gunnison, Okay, and the Gunnison Crestibute.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
And you talk about, you know, the more remote of
an area you get to, I think the better it is.
You were talking about how some areas are more congested
and have that tourism overrun, you know, overrun with tourism.
Gunnison and Crest but are really unique because they're on
Highway fifty, the only way in and out, and really.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
A special place.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
You should get up there if you ski.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah I do, but I'd love to do that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I got to tell you I didn't feel at
all is if glenn Wood Springs was too congested or anything.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Quite the opposite.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I thought, you know, absolutely beautiful and a wonderful small town.
I mean, it struck me as and I've only spent
a little time in Aspen, but it struck me as
almost like Aspen without the ski resort, but just a.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Really cool town.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And yeah, the whole thing was everybody on the trial team,
and we had a very big team. Everybody on the
trial team, everybody who flew in for trial, different witnesses,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Everybody loved it. Yeah, so there's something.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Going on up there court community.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah yeah. And do you agree with me that the
support community for asthen do.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You agree that everybody just seems happier up there? I mean,
like in general there's less stress. Yeah, exactly. Well, Hey,
you're around the beauty, you're around the natural beauty, and
then there's less congestion, less traffic, less stress.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
Well, I got to tell you, I've been here about
three years and my stress level definitely went up on
the front range. I used to work downtown. Now I've
moved out to Parker, so I've kind of come down
in the stress level. But you know, I'll probably go
back to the Western Slope, you know, eventually to retire.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, what a really pleasant surprise. So what about what
about Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Who would be on it?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I didn't think this went through.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
No need. We don't do much thinking around John Elway. Well,
that gives a quote.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Do you have different Do you have different Mount rushmorees
by category? I'm not sure we'd want to have that
many Mount rushmorees.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But let's say just open ended.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, would John Elway be, say, one of the top
ten Colorado's in history.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Jennifer really appreciate the call. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And I'm glad Jennifer introduced the whole sports category, so
we're just talking, we're not talking separate categories. Colorado has
one Mount Rushmore and you're going to have four spots
on it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Who should be on it? Would you have John Elway?
I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Do you think people would choose John if they were
going sports, if they were on football, would they choose
John Elway?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Would they choose Peyton Manning?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Would be if we were going to have a football
player on there to me, and I think Peyton Manning's phenomenal,
a great gift to this state. But John Elway, even
though he messed up the Tim Tebow thing and messed
up as GM, he is so underappreciated as an NFL quarterback.
And you go back and you watch some of that
tape of him throwing the ball and how he would
(33:23):
win games almost single handedly, and how he was so
critical to the development of the Broncos. If you're going
to put a football player on Mount Rushmore, I think
it would have to be him.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Has a major hand in every Denver Broncos Super Bowl
victory obviously too as a player, and then was the
architect of the third team to win a Super Bowl.
I think not only is he number one on the
list of Colorado based football players for Colorado Mount Rushmore,
I think he's probably number one athlete in any sport.
And there's plenty a great Colorado and Olympians.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I think you nailed at zech. I think that would
have to be true.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And so then the question becomes, would you have an
athlete on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? You got four spots to
work with, who would you put there? So getting a
lot of great text on this. I think it obviously
have a bias because they have the privilege of representing
as folks, But I think Kendrick Castile should be there.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I think one of the.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
One of the challenges if we're doing a Mount Rushmore
is who do you pick to represent all the military
heroes from Colorado or is there one who stands out
who you just put on Mount Rushmore and then they're
just symbolic of everybody else.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, so what do you do with that?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
This is a good this is a good challenge because
I think we should have one. I think Colorado should
have its own Mount Rushmore. I think we need to
start focusing more on the positive and you know, for
the kids and ourselves, but not just our Mount Rushmore.
What do we call it? What do we call Colorado's
Mount Rushmore? Would somebody please text or call on that?
(34:59):
One dam five seven seven three nine, trail three seven
one three A two five five the number?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
What do we call that?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And then just other things we can do to honor
like great Colorado and statues around things like that, just
to show the kids who and what we value as
a people, because right now that's kind of being hijack.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
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