October 10, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Dan Caplis discusses which all-time great Coloradans would belong on a local version of Mt. Rushmore
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. What do you
put on it? You can only pick four, three or
three someone three eight, two, five, five the numbers. So
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we got that going for us. Much more going on
in the news today as well. Uproar this afternoon over
news reports inaccurate from everything I can tell, that the
Trump administration is allowing Qatar to now build an air
Force base in Idaho. I believe the actual truth is
that what the administration is allowing, as it has allowed
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with other for nations, some that by American aircraft, for example,
is that a Qatar is going to be able to say,
build a facility at an existing US Air Force base.
So my understanding of the truth, they'll be able to
build a hangar, they'll be able to build other and
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it'll be built by American contractors. You're going to be
able to build you know, the office facilities, et cetera.
And then they're going to train on these new fighter jets.
At the US I think agreed to sell back in
twenty seventeen or so. So when you see on Luftis
TV the story that Guitar is going to have an
air Force base in the US, No, that is that
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story is not accurate. Now maybe maybe it bothers you
that the administration has agreed to allow some facilities to
be built for training to be done. You know right
now Singapore has a similar arrangement with the US government,
et cetera. But I want to let you know that
stories out there. If you have thoughts on it, you
know where to find me. Dan, We don't need Mount Rushmore.
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Check out the Colorado Freedom Memorial al By Buckley, like
the Vietnam War, but for all Colorado is killed in
action since Colorado stated. That kind of memorial is critical.
But it needs to be somewhere everybody's going to see it.
The school kids are going to see it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's the kind of memorial you have to have down
near the state capitol, or maybe you have it out
near the new Broncos Stadium or something. But you've got
to have it somewhere people are going to actually see it.
That's the thing about whatever we're going to call Colorado's
new Mount Rushmore. You know, as people are going to
see it, they can't miss it. It's on the side
of a mountain. Dan John Fielder, the great nature photographer.
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Somebody suggesting for a Mount Rushmore. Another texter to Da
n five seven seven three nine, says Dan. Bill McCartney,
regardless of sports or not, needs to be on it. Boy,
I would second that. My friend absolutely second that. What
a great man with the long term influence. And that's why,
you know, Zach and I were having this conversation earlier.
Ryan is on a well deserved half day off. But anyway,
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you know we're talking about do you have anybody from
sports on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Because those spots are limited right,
going fast, and Zach and I agree, if it's anybody
from sports, it needs to be John Elway. Now I
would consider Bill McCartney beyond sports, transcend sports, and then
you have to look at the lasting impact of it.
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And with Bill McCartney to today, lasting impact outside of sports.
Let's go to Lewis in Littleton. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Welcome, Hi Dan, thank you. What would you think about
putting Adolph cores.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
On that mountain. Fascinating. I think we had another text
or two. You know, I just don't know enough about him.
I know Pete Course, so I think is a tremendous
guy and well great force for good in our community.
But I just don't know much about Adolph Course.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, he was either kidnapped or murdered. I forget which.
It's been like the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Wow, But he definitely has brought a lot of action
to Colorado and a lot of good time.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
There was a lot of bad times.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He's a pretty prominent Colorado Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Thanks man, appreciate the call. I want to learn more
about the Course family has obviously done great things for
the state. I just don't know much about him. Dan
Otto Meers the pathfinder of the San Juan built roads
and railroads. It's one of the things I like about
this topic. I'm just learning more about Colorado history and Dan.
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David H. Moffat railroad builder, founder of the Denver, Northwestern
and Pacific and inspired the Moffat Tunnel. Dan William Jackson,
Palmer Civil War hero, founder of the Denver and Rio
Grand Railroad, Colorado Springs and Colorado College. Wow. Wow, Dan
My experience with meeting Governor Lamb was much different. We
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ran into him at Washington Park and he had a
basst hound and we had a bass and hound dogs
got along great. Gotti's wife was very nice, but Governor
Lamb was very unfriendly. Maybe he was having a bad day.
Who knows, Texter, thank you. My guess is that he
was having a bad day, because again he and I
political opposites. But I just he was a cool guy,
really enjoyed him. Did a couple of favors for me
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when I was student body president and asked him to
come up speak to a group or two. Yeah, just
found him to be a very cool guy. Very sorry
he had that position on abortion, the fundamental civil rights issue,
but yeah, I bet he was just having a bad
day the day you met him. Dan, so true about
the two Colorado senators invisible and thankfully, as you say,
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in effective, who are the hig pathetic senators in name only?
I was just making the point, as we go back
to the phone lines at the start of the show,
that we are so fortunate in Colorado that if we
have to have Democrat senators or other a Republican right,
but if you have to have Democrats. The two you
want are Bennett and Hickenlooper, because there's the two least
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effective senators in America, maybe in American history. And if
you're going to have Democrats, that's what you want. Democrats
who don't get anything done. Let's go to share and
in Highland's Ranch. You're on the Dan Capitol Show. Maybe
we'll get a Republican this time around, hope. So how
you doing, Sharon? Hi?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Dan, I'm doing fine.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
How are you living the dream? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So, on your recommendation for a Rushmore style monument, I
would name it Rocky Mountain Heroes. I would put Kendro
Castillo to represent a millennial hero.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I would put Danny diets On there to represent a
gen X hero. Eric Tally was the police officer who
put his life at to try and rescue people in
King Supers and Boulder. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, yes, what a hero?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What a generation he was from?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But then then how about the gentleman that calls your
show off in Colonel is it? Colonel Dan Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Colonel kirk Colonel kirk Dale?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, you would be probably what a boomer generation hero?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
What would you call the colonel because excuse me, you
know he yeah, he because he and I were texting
last night. Let me pull that text up because I
was asking him how many combat missions he flew and
he was kind enough to write me back last night
he texted me one hundred and fifty three combat missions. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, that's a zero.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, that that would be. That would be a hero.
And then isn't the challenge when it comes to the
men and women from the military. There are so many
great ones. How do you choose one?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I was just trying to capture generations, no generation, good tech.
You know, those are the ones that you know, I
came up with. You know, there are two from the
two from the military, one from police, and one was
obviously a student hero that that his life and some
one of other students.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, that is so beautiful. Thank you, Sharon, appreciate that.
And I'm glad you areon mentioned Derek Kelly And there
may be a statue in Boulder that I'm not aware
of Derek Talley, but if there is, isn't one yet,
there really needs to be. You know, he knew, he
knew in that situation he was likely to sacrifice his
life to save others in that mass shooting, and he
went full speed to add Kevin and Empire. You're on
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the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm doing great? How about you?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So I I the one nominee that takes care of
both categories, right there is Byron Whizzard.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That's a good one.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Uh you like it?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh? I love that. I love that. Yeah, all America, Yeah,
Associate Justice but still US Supreme Court. Yeah, that is
a great Yeah. And you left out my friend. And
I don't mean to be self serving, but Colorado's had
two two term student body presidents at the University of Colorado.
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Can anybody name those two? Colin Wiz or White? And
I won't mention the other one out of an abundance
of humility, but yeah, what a great suggestion. Thank you
for that. Thank you, Kevin. Great call man, great call.
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I love that Wizard Whit. Actually got to watch us
see you football game with Wizard. Why that was really cool.
Just sat right next to him, watched the game. He
hadn't you know. I don't fault him at all for this,
had no idea who I was. And I don't blame
him because I'm nobody but got to sit next to
him and it was just really cool. What a great guy.
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And he always said he didn't say it at the
game because he and I didn't talk much. I was
just listening, being respectful and listening. But he had always
said there is no way President Kennedy who appointed Justice White.
Justice White was President Kennedy's only appointment to the Court
before he was murdered. But he always said there was
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no way John Kennedy would have supported legal life abortion.
And I don't remember the specifics of the comment, but
he was adamant about that. I don't know if the
Justice was talking about the constitutional view that there's a
constitutional right to it. Maybe that's what he was talking about.
But what a great guy and truly a great American.
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So would you have Justice White on Colorado's Mount Rushmore?
And one thing I'd love to hear from people is
what do you want to call Colorado's Mount Rushmore? We
can't call it Mount Rushmore obviously cost too much confusion.
But what should that be called? And who should be
on it? You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Colorado of its own Mount Rushmore and who would you
put on it? What would you call it? Also, so
many great calls and texts today, and I've learned an
awful lot about I've learned an awful lot about Colorado history.
Just in that segment today, Dan just tuned in five
year years ago. Today Lee Keltner was murdered. He should
be there to represent the total lack of justice in Colorado.
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Jeff the DPD point of contact and never questioned witnesses,
my friend the Texter. I can tell you that my
office and I have probably spent three or four hundred
hours investigating that since it happened, and we've been involved
in very active litigation pertaining to that because and it's
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just one of those cases you take on because of
the important cause involved. And so I can tell you
at this point I probably know more about the facts
of what happened there than most people alive. In fact,
so many of our great attorneys have been involved in
this case, and we just had a long, long meeting
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on it yesterday as well. And so no, we've been fighting.
We've been fighting through the civil justice system. We've been
up to the Court of Appeals and back as as
they fought to dismiss all of their claims. So we
are in active litigation and it's like so many important
cases where that the primary point of the case is
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that the victim is suing for the truth, and we
do not represent the Keltner family. We represent somebody else
who was there standing next to mister Keltner as he
was gunned down. So yeah, we have we have walked
the talk, and we have put hundreds of hours into
this because it's just so wrong and we want wherever
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the facts lead you, right, whatever the full truth is,
we just want it all out there. And when the
DA that my constitutionally protected opinion that politically motivated DA
did what she did in that case, now, we just
want the full truth out there and we want justice done.
And that's that's the crazy thing about our system, right
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in a good way, that the civil justice system gives
you so many more tools called discovery tools to get
to the truth when you have a valid claim, as
we do that, I just feel it's part of our
obligation to the community where we're very blessed, we've been
very blessed to do very well in our practice, and
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and it's part of our obligation of the community, use
our skills and our abilities to get the full truth
on something like this and get it out there, because
it's it's just, in my view, so wrong. Kevin in
Beautiful Boulder, Colorado, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A famous person died in Glenwood Springs. Do you know
who that was?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I do hold on one second, Kevin, Doc Holiday.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
That's right?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Okay, Yeah, the Google really helps, doesn't that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, it wasn't Google. I'm going to pull up a
picture I'm gonna put yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Do you have.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
The building he died in is not there, but the
building that is has a plaque.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
For Doc Holliday.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Kevin, what I was going to do was I was
going to pull up a picture of me in that
building next to the plaque. And I took a picture
of the plaque. And you know why, I took a
picture of.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
The plaque so you could be famous like him.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
No, because it has it has bullet holes in it
from people who had been shooting at. It's actually the
original tombstone that people had been shooting at, so then
they got a new one. But no, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
About that, and Doc Holliday and Wider lived in Denver
for a while before they went to Glenwood Springs. And oh,
Bat Masterson. You know that name, don't you?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I do?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
He was sriff of Trinidad in southern Colorado.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
A small world, small world? Hey Dad, do appreciate the
call there, Kevin? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, we're talking about should we have our own Mount
Rushmore here? And who would you have on it?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Honor our heroes in public arena? Absolutely, but third of
four generations seventies native leave our beautiful rocky mountains alone,
Mountain Grandma on Mountain Grandpa. I'm with you? But is
Zach if we had any callers or textures yet? Anybody
explaining what this strip mining is on the foothills? You know?
I drive home on Bellevue every night and it looks
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like they're strip mining a big swath of the foothills
just south of Denver. Does anybody know what's going on there?
I can't believe this is happening, and we've got to
try to stop it. But first I need to find
out what it is, So please, somebody tell me what's
going on there? Three h three seven one three eight
two five five text d An five seven seven three nine,
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Texter says, Peter Boyles needs to be on Colorado's Mount
Rushmore boy It's it's wild. Does I sit in the
seat here in the studio If you're new to the
area of Pete Boyles and you know people was on
air this morning. He's just an icon of Colorado legend
and you know, a talk show host for so many
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years and used to be in this studio. He's now
with a different station, but you know he is. Pete
is one of the greats ever in the business. Dan
and Rora, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Welcome thanky fellow, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay. I was going to suggest two things. Number one
and name could be monument of excellence. Then if you're
going to put a military person on there, I would
definitely nominate Drew Dix, Congressional Medal of Honor winner out
of Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Tell us the story.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
He was a Pueblo man. They actually named a street
down there for him, and I'm an.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
Old marine's nummy guy, and Jim and his small group
of special forces virtually single handedly.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Saved a complete Vietnamese village and captured a high ranking
Vietcong leader during the tet Offensive.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm going to look that up. Dan Hay, thank you man,
sure appreciate that. Drew Dix, right.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, Dix is that thing? And the guys a start man.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah awesome, Well, thank you, And that's as as we've
been getting calls and text. One of the challenges is
we have so many military heroes in Colorado. If we
only have four spots on our Mount Rushmore, who do
you put up there? But hey, we'll continue this and
much more in the news. I want to get to
as well. Threl three seven two five five text d
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An five seventy nine and what should we call Colorado's
Mount Rushmore? You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Learned a lot during the conversation today because we're talking
about Mount Rushmore. Should Colorado have its own Mount Rushmore?
One thing I've learned is that Mount Rushmore is not
actually the name of Mount Rushmore. It's just the name
of the mountain. It's not technically the name of given
to the facade the Wall of Heroes. So we'll get
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into what that is named. But should Colorado have its
own Who should be on it? What would you name it?
I think is Zach behind the glass for Ryan today?
Well deserved a offer, Ryan Zack. It may be too
early to say there's any consensus emerging. We haven't had
enough calls or text yet to say there's a true consensus,
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But I think it's fair to say some of the
leaders in the clubhouse Justice by Renwhite, you know, and
not a tough one there, right, I mean Colorado hero,
two term c U student Body president, Associate Justice of
the US Supreme Court, All American football player at CU,
all pro football player with the Chicago Bears, naval intelligence
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officer during World War Two. What a slacker but uh
and also just an all around good guy. So don't
you think at this point Zach he would have to
be there. You couldn't have Colorado's Mount Rushmore without He's
Justice White.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
He checks too many boxes. I think I think he's
a pretty safe bet to make it on there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, what box does he not check? World War two?
Naval intelligence and the war hero?
Speaker 10 (19:37):
Maybe he was he was, Yeah, well but he served
yeah exactly, that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Serves yeah yeah, and uh yeah, and and I bet
as we dig into that further, we'll find the I
mean he was out there, he's on a ship. I
think he was on a ship naval intelligence. But I
think you throw in President Kennedy's only appointment to the
US Supreme Court, all American at CEU, all pro with
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the Bears. Yeah, and then of course the CU student
body President. I know this is too long a text
to get into. Okay, Another Dan. Mount Rushmore was the
name of the mountain before it was sculpted. But what
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should we call Colorado Colorado's version because everybody calls it
Mount Rushmore? Right, what do we call Colorado's version? Dan?
With popp being legal for the last decade and a
half in Colorado hasn't been that long. Instead of Mount Rushmore.
I'm surprised it's not Mount Cushmore. Also really surprised there
isn't a pot leaf on our state flag. I think
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it's got to be so clear to everybody right now
that that was one of the biggest mistakes in Colorado history,
if not the single biggest mistake in Colorado history, the
legalization of marijuana. And hopefully someday this state will reverse it.
Don't give up hope. Remember before Colorado The only state
to have made that big mistake was Alaska in nineteen
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seventy six if I remember right. And then Alaska ended
up reversing it because there were just so much, so
many dead bodies, so many kids destroyed by it, etc.
I understand. The decades later the big marijuana money came in,
Alaska voted for it again. But yeah, before Colorado, Alaska
had been the only one. Dad, I don't know if
this is mentioned. Jack Swigert, astronaut call it the mountain
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you put it on. Yeah, boy, what a great suggestion there,
Jack Swigert. And one of the truly great statues. Have
you ever seen that Jack Swygert statute statue at DIA. Yes, yes,
I have beautifully done right, beautifully done, And so many
statues are not like they make the head too big
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or too small or something. Jack Swigert, just right and
after rain, John Denver, the monument should be called Colorado
Rocky Mountain high Dan Coach Prime on our Mount Rushmore. Okay, boy,
like we said, Hey, we were calling foot on the
show before anybody was for Coach Prime to come to Colorado.
So great, great contributions, but I don't think quite mount
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Rushmore Worthy, But I'm so glad he is here. Dan.
What about Colorado's Mount Rushmore on the north wall of
the Black Canyon of the Gunnison. Wow, I have not
seen it. Thanks to the suggestion, I hope to get
up there and see it. Warren in Colorado Springs here
on the Dan Kaplis show Welcome.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah, I was just curious. Dan talked to you before
several times about things as Warren the Springs usually talk
about Ukraine. I'd want to ask you about something else,
so if I could, have you ever heard of a
command by the name of it Colonel David Shoop s.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
H o up sounds familiar, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Well he was. He won the Middle of Honor of
Tahwah in a seventies six hour fight to gain that island.
Be cost about eleven hundred marines killed and about double
that wounded in a seventy six hour fight to take
that small island of Tarawa. He became the come out
comment dow of the Marine Corps. Eventually retired out of
the Marine Corps, but he was also appoint Tee F. Eisenhower,
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who terms coming in continuing the Kennedy administration and he
had something to say in regards to Vietnam and being
a Medal of Autor winner. I think his comments should
be in World War two take a little different attitude.
I'll tell you what he said. He said and see
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at students in May of nineteen sixty six, he told
students at Perce College, Woodland, Kells, California, all Southeast Asia,
as related to the President of future safety in freedom
of the people of this country, was not worth the
life or limb of a single American, he said. I
believe that if we had and would keep our dirty,
bloody dollar crooked fingers out of the business of these
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nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive
at solution to their own What do you think about?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
That?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Interesting it? You know you think about Vietnam. The first
thing I think about is all the American boys who
gave their lives, all of their family members, and I'd
never want to diminish their sacrifice in any way I
think about. I was in the seminary at the time.
I remember asking the parish priest if I could just
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during mass stand up and read a poem about Vietnam
and all the lives that had been lost. It was
I just grew up in that era. I was too
young to serve, but I just weren't. I just wouldn't
want to say anything that would disrespect the sacrifice that
was made by those Americans. Obviously, you know, you had
a lot of politicians make a lot of mistakes there,
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and yeah, I just I wish there had not been
a single American life loss there. I just want to
show consummate respect to those who sacrificed. I was a
little kid, man, I was a little kid at the time.
But I can remember with my mom walking down the
street in Chicago and I asked her, because we're all
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of these stars in the windows in our neighborhood. It
seemed like every block there were two or three stars.
I'm sure it wasn't that many. And we were walking
down the block and I asked my mom, I said,
why is there a star in that house now? And
she just started crying. And I was too young. She
didn't explain to me. I just vividly remember her crying
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because I thought, a star, boy, that's really great. That's
got to be something really great, right. I didn't understand
we were talking about, you know, the ultimate sacrifice of
gold Star family and she just started crying. And yeah,
I don't think I learned for years. You know that
all of these neighbors, all of these neighbors had lost
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a child in Vietnam three or three one, three, eight, two,
five five the number. Somebody says, Dan, you need to
save a space on that mountain for Eerie. Mike, not
sure we'll be doing that. But who would you put
on Colorado's Mount Rushmore and Zach. I don't know about you,
but I have not heard yet like the absolute winning
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name for that. You have any suggestions.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
One that I saw just doing some research on the
military euro front Joe P.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Martinez.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
He's the first ever recipient in state history. Earned it
for his valor in World War Two. I was reading
about what he did there and which he's pretty impressive.
Helped storm a position up high, a Nazi position up
high on top of a mountain, and he helped kind
of lead the charge up it and was motivating other
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men and women to come with him. I guess just
meant at that point, but motivating his fellow troops to
follow him into battle. Was the first ever recipient, and
say history also the first ever Hispanic American recipient Joe
MARTINZ Medal of Honor.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, Joe Jill.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
He's got statues. He has a park here in Denver
named after him, and he had a ship in the
Korean War named after him.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You know, you think of you hear these stories, right,
and you think of all these people here Coloradden's who
did these things that are just unimaginably heroic, Because don't
you think Zach I mean, when you were reading about him,
he had to believe he was going to die doing that, right,
And so many of these stories we hear these are
people who said, Okay, I'm going to give my life
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to go serve this way. I mean, that's that's just yeah.
There needs to be as many things as we can do.
But this just popped into my head as you were
telling that Joe Martinez story, and this should be the
nail and the coffin, right, there is no way in
the world. This prime spot out at DiiA that everybody
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sees as they drive in and out should have old meth. There,
should have satan steed that that horse needs to be
taken down. And we need to have some type we
need to have some type of incredibly tall, impressive statues
there that honor at least some of these people we're
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talking about today as we talk about people for a
Colorado Mount Rushmore, that that honor at least some of
those people. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of
the good. But that spot that has to be probably
the prime viewing spot at least on the front range
of Colorado. And who would you put there? And wouldn't
that be so cool, Zach if we had like these
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these five six story statues there of these heroic figures.
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
We're talking about Colorado. Should we have our own Mount Rushmore?
And what would you call it? Who would be on it?
You got four to work with? Who do you put there?
A lot of folks this afternoon can't claim a consensus.
We haven't enough calls and text for that, but clear
leaders in the clubhouse, Justice White, Kendrick Castile. But there
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have been many others and it's been great. I've learned
so much just about all these really heroic Coloraden's I
hadn't even heard of before. And that's why I think,
and that's how we started the show, right, we need
to be and it needs to be intentional. We need
to make a concerted effort to do a better job
of honoring the Coloradens who represent the best of us, right,
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the virtues, the character, everything else you want the little
kids to emulate, and just focusing on them and things like, yeah,
tear down Satan Steed at Dia and put up you
couldn't get them all in there, right, But even if
it was like two or three of these enormous, impressive,
large statues of the same kind of people, we'd put
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on our Mount Rushmore. Texter says, I recommend Saint Francis Cabrini. Boy,
what what a tremendous idea. Right opened so many orphanages,
so many schools, did so much great work for the
miners in Colorado and around the world for that matter.
Julia Greeley, right, a freed slave, became the quote angel
of Charity in Denver. She's being considered for sainthood, as
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Kendrick Castillo is as well. So yeah, let's let's start
making an effort to do that. I know there's plenty
of bad in the world. We talk about it all
the time, probably too much, but let's yeah, let's focus
some more on the good. Zach As we've gone through
it to says, here's one Dan, how about Judge Mage
on a mountain. He didn't take blank from anybody on
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either side. That is so true, having had the privilege
of appearing before Judgemge. So, Zach As you have pondered this,
I know you're back. You're doing the research everything else.
What other suggestions? And have you come up with a
good name for our Mount Rushmore?
Speaker 10 (31:07):
We need the name for it, for the name I
was thinking, rather than you know, naming it, you know,
the Monument of Valor, I don't know, something like that,
giving naming it after another name like Mount Rushmore Rushmore
is I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It sounds like someone's name.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
I figured you could honor a fifth person by naming
whatever mountain after that figure. And then that way you're
kind of working an additional figure in because one thing
I have noticed, taking these calls and everything, there is
a wide range of people you could go with.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah. No, that's a good point, which brings us to
this other issue is do we need you know President
Trump is planning this? What's he calling it? Is he
calling it the Garden of Heroes, but where you're gonna
have like one hundred different statues of you know, top
American heroes from all walks of life. We need that somewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The first thing that comes to mind is down on
the state Capitol. But who wants to go down there anymore?
You know, given what the left has done with that city?
Where would you put something like that? Because you're right,
there are so many where would you put that? And
I want to give some more thought to the name
over the weekend, also because I think this is a
great idea, not because it was mine, but I just
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think we need that sort of thing. Like you ever
listen to Dennis Prager, who now is.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
I've heard him here and there.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yea, it's a brilliant guy. And I had a chance
to meet him in person a few times MC some
events he spoke at and brilliant, brilliant, great man and
now battling these horrific, horrific health problems. But he always
used to do this happiness hour each week. Maybe we
should start a happiness hour.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
We need more of that in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Only because it's not being pollyannish or cheerleader. It's just
when you look objectively what's going on in the world,
there's so much more good than bad. But ninety nine
percent of the news average to talk radio time, everything
else goes to the bad. I mean, just in the
interest of balance, let alone the good stuff to come
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from a gym. Maybe we need to do our own
version of that.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
I heard a great There was this college football coach
this weekend who was talking to the media, you know,
having his normal press conference, and he was talking about
negativity and positivity.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And he took a piece of paper.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Out and like a marker or a pen, and drew
a black circle in the middle of it and held
it up to the media and goes, what do you see.
Someone goes, oh, I see a black dot, And he's like,
most people see the black dot, they don't see the
white page that surrounds it.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, fascinating, fascinating, And I guess to a certain extent,
it's kind of a self defense measure, right, just to okay,
focus on what's the threat out there? You know, what's bad?
What's what's the threat? What do we need to fix?
But just for the sake of sanity and positivity and
moving forward, we need just some dedicated space where we're
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going to focus on the positive. Also, well positive is
it's time for the weekend? Is that great to work
with you? Thank you, my friend. I hope you have
a wonderful one. Expecting a big Bronco in predicting a
CEO upset of Iowa State, So looking forward to that game. Also,
I have a great weekend. Catching Monday on The Dan
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three someone three eight, two, five, five the numbers. So
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we got that going for us. Much more going on
in the news today as well. Uproar this afternoon over
news reports inaccurate from everything I can tell, that the
Trump administration is allowing Qatar to now build an air
Force base in Idaho. I believe the actual truth is
that what the administration is allowing, as it has allowed
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with other for nations, some that by American aircraft, for example,
is that a Qatar is going to be able to say,
build a facility at an existing US Air Force base.
So my understanding of the truth, they'll be able to
build a hangar, they'll be able to build other and
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it'll be built by American contractors. You're going to be
able to build you know, the office facilities, et cetera.
And then they're going to train on these new fighter jets.
At the US I think agreed to sell back in
twenty seventeen or so. So when you see on Luftis
TV the story that Guitar is going to have an
air Force base in the US, No, that is that
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story is not accurate. Now maybe maybe it bothers you
that the administration has agreed to allow some facilities to
be built for training to be done. You know right
now Singapore has a similar arrangement with the US government,
et cetera. But I want to let you know that
stories out there. If you have thoughts on it, you
know where to find me. Dan, We don't need Mount Rushmore.
(01:47):
Check out the Colorado Freedom Memorial al By Buckley, like
the Vietnam War, but for all Colorado is killed in
action since Colorado stated. That kind of memorial is critical.
But it needs to be somewhere everybody's going to see it.
The school kids are going to see it.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's the kind of memorial you have to have down
near the state capitol, or maybe you have it out
near the new Broncos Stadium or something. But you've got
to have it somewhere people are going to actually see it.
That's the thing about whatever we're going to call Colorado's
new Mount Rushmore. You know, as people are going to
see it, they can't miss it. It's on the side
of a mountain. Dan John Fielder, the great nature photographer.
(02:27):
Somebody suggesting for a Mount Rushmore. Another texter to Da
n five seven seven three nine, says Dan. Bill McCartney,
regardless of sports or not, needs to be on it. Boy,
I would second that. My friend absolutely second that. What
a great man with the long term influence. And that's why,
you know, Zach and I were having this conversation earlier.
Ryan is on a well deserved half day off. But anyway,
(02:52):
you know we're talking about do you have anybody from
sports on Colorado's Mount Rushmore? Because those spots are limited right,
going fast, and Zach and I agree, if it's anybody
from sports, it needs to be John Elway. Now I
would consider Bill McCartney beyond sports, transcend sports, and then
you have to look at the lasting impact of it.
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And with Bill McCartney to today, lasting impact outside of sports.
Let's go to Lewis in Littleton. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Welcome, Hi Dan, thank you. What would you think about
putting Adolph cores.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
On that mountain. Fascinating. I think we had another text
or two. You know, I just don't know enough about him.
I know Pete Course, so I think is a tremendous
guy and well great force for good in our community.
But I just don't know much about Adolph Course.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, he was either kidnapped or murdered. I forget which.
It's been like the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Wow, But he definitely has brought a lot of action
to Colorado and a lot of good time.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
There was a lot of bad times.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
He's a pretty prominent Colorado Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Thanks man, appreciate the call. I want to learn more
about the Course family has obviously done great things for
the state. I just don't know much about him. Dan
Otto Meers the pathfinder of the San Juan built roads
and railroads. It's one of the things I like about
this topic. I'm just learning more about Colorado history and Dan.
(04:24):
David H. Moffat railroad builder, founder of the Denver, Northwestern
and Pacific and inspired the Moffat Tunnel. Dan William Jackson,
Palmer Civil War hero, founder of the Denver and Rio
Grand Railroad, Colorado Springs and Colorado College. Wow. Wow, Dan
My experience with meeting Governor Lamb was much different. We
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ran into him at Washington Park and he had a
basst hound and we had a bass and hound dogs
got along great. Gotti's wife was very nice, but Governor
Lamb was very unfriendly. Maybe he was having a bad day.
Who knows, Texter, thank you. My guess is that he
was having a bad day, because again he and I
political opposites. But I just he was a cool guy,
really enjoyed him. Did a couple of favors for me
(05:08):
when I was student body president and asked him to
come up speak to a group or two. Yeah, just
found him to be a very cool guy. Very sorry
he had that position on abortion, the fundamental civil rights issue,
but yeah, I bet he was just having a bad
day the day you met him. Dan, so true about
the two Colorado senators invisible and thankfully, as you say,
(05:30):
in effective, who are the hig pathetic senators in name only?
I was just making the point, as we go back
to the phone lines at the start of the show,
that we are so fortunate in Colorado that if we
have to have Democrat senators or other a Republican right,
but if you have to have Democrats. The two you
want are Bennett and Hickenlooper, because there's the two least
(05:50):
effective senators in America, maybe in American history. And if
you're going to have Democrats, that's what you want. Democrats
who don't get anything done. Let's go to share and
in Highland's Ranch. You're on the Dan Capitol Show. Maybe
we'll get a Republican this time around, hope. So how
you doing, Sharon? Hi?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Dan, I'm doing fine.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
How are you living the dream? What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well?
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So, on your recommendation for a Rushmore style monument, I
would name it Rocky Mountain Heroes. I would put Kendro
Castillo to represent a millennial hero.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I would put Danny diets On there to represent a
gen X hero. Eric Tally was the police officer who
put his life at to try and rescue people in
King Supers and Boulder. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, yes, what a hero?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
What a generation he was from?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
But then then how about the gentleman that calls your
show off in Colonel is it? Colonel Dan Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Colonel kirk Colonel kirk Dale?
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Yeah, you would be probably what a boomer generation hero?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
What would you call the colonel because excuse me, you
know he yeah, he because he and I were texting
last night. Let me pull that text up because I
was asking him how many combat missions he flew and
he was kind enough to write me back last night
he texted me one hundred and fifty three combat missions. Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, that's a zero.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, that that would be. That would be a hero.
And then isn't the challenge when it comes to the
men and women from the military. There are so many
great ones. How do you choose one?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, it's tough.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
I was just trying to capture generations, no generation, good tech.
You know, those are the ones that you know, I
came up with. You know, there are two from the
two from the military, one from police, and one was
obviously a student hero that that his life and some
one of other students.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, that is so beautiful. Thank you, Sharon, appreciate that.
And I'm glad you areon mentioned Derek Kelly And there
may be a statue in Boulder that I'm not aware
of Derek Talley, but if there is, isn't one yet,
there really needs to be. You know, he knew, he
knew in that situation he was likely to sacrifice his
life to save others in that mass shooting, and he
went full speed to add Kevin and Empire. You're on
(08:12):
the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome Dan.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
How are you doing.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm doing great? How about you?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So I I the one nominee that takes care of
both categories, right there is Byron Whizzard.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
That's a good one.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Uh you like it?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh? I love that. I love that. Yeah, all America, Yeah,
Associate Justice but still US Supreme Court. Yeah, that is
a great Yeah. And you left out my friend. And
I don't mean to be self serving, but Colorado's had
two two term student body presidents at the University of Colorado.
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Can anybody name those two? Colin Wiz or White? And
I won't mention the other one out of an abundance
of humility, but yeah, what a great suggestion. Thank you
for that. Thank you, Kevin. Great call man, great call.
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I love that Wizard Whit. Actually got to watch us
see you football game with Wizard. Why that was really cool.
Just sat right next to him, watched the game. He
hadn't you know. I don't fault him at all for this,
had no idea who I was. And I don't blame
him because I'm nobody but got to sit next to
him and it was just really cool. What a great guy.
(09:35):
And he always said he didn't say it at the
game because he and I didn't talk much. I was
just listening, being respectful and listening. But he had always
said there is no way President Kennedy who appointed Justice White.
Justice White was President Kennedy's only appointment to the Court
before he was murdered. But he always said there was
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no way John Kennedy would have supported legal life abortion.
And I don't remember the specifics of the comment, but
he was adamant about that. I don't know if the
Justice was talking about the constitutional view that there's a
constitutional right to it. Maybe that's what he was talking about.
But what a great guy and truly a great American.
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So would you have Justice White on Colorado's Mount Rushmore?
And one thing I'd love to hear from people is
what do you want to call Colorado's Mount Rushmore? We
can't call it Mount Rushmore obviously cost too much confusion.
But what should that be called? And who should be
on it? You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Colorado of its own Mount Rushmore and who would you
put on it? What would you call it? Also, so
many great calls and texts today, and I've learned an
awful lot about I've learned an awful lot about Colorado history.
Just in that segment today, Dan just tuned in five
year years ago. Today Lee Keltner was murdered. He should
be there to represent the total lack of justice in Colorado.
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Jeff the DPD point of contact and never questioned witnesses,
my friend the Texter. I can tell you that my
office and I have probably spent three or four hundred
hours investigating that since it happened, and we've been involved
in very active litigation pertaining to that because and it's
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just one of those cases you take on because of
the important cause involved. And so I can tell you
at this point I probably know more about the facts
of what happened there than most people alive. In fact,
so many of our great attorneys have been involved in
this case, and we just had a long, long meeting
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on it yesterday as well. And so no, we've been fighting.
We've been fighting through the civil justice system. We've been
up to the Court of Appeals and back as as
they fought to dismiss all of their claims. So we
are in active litigation and it's like so many important
cases where that the primary point of the case is
(12:11):
that the victim is suing for the truth, and we
do not represent the Keltner family. We represent somebody else
who was there standing next to mister Keltner as he
was gunned down. So yeah, we have we have walked
the talk, and we have put hundreds of hours into
this because it's just so wrong and we want wherever
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the facts lead you, right, whatever the full truth is,
we just want it all out there. And when the
DA that my constitutionally protected opinion that politically motivated DA
did what she did in that case, now, we just
want the full truth out there and we want justice done.
And that's that's the crazy thing about our system, right
(12:53):
in a good way, that the civil justice system gives
you so many more tools called discovery tools to get
to the truth when you have a valid claim, as
we do that, I just feel it's part of our
obligation to the community where we're very blessed, we've been
very blessed to do very well in our practice, and
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and it's part of our obligation of the community, use
our skills and our abilities to get the full truth
on something like this and get it out there, because
it's it's just, in my view, so wrong. Kevin in
Beautiful Boulder, Colorado, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A famous person died in Glenwood Springs. Do you know
who that was?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I do hold on one second, Kevin, Doc Holiday.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
That's right?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Okay, Yeah, the Google really helps, doesn't that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, it wasn't Google. I'm going to pull up a
picture I'm gonna put yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Do you have.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
The building he died in is not there, but the
building that is has a plaque.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
For Doc Holliday.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Kevin, what I was going to do was I was
going to pull up a picture of me in that
building next to the plaque. And I took a picture
of the plaque. And you know why, I took a
picture of.
Speaker 8 (14:16):
The plaque so you could be famous like him.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
No, because it has it has bullet holes in it
from people who had been shooting at. It's actually the
original tombstone that people had been shooting at, so then
they got a new one. But no, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
About that, and Doc Holliday and Wider lived in Denver
for a while before they went to Glenwood Springs. And oh,
Bat Masterson. You know that name, don't you?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I do?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
He was sriff of Trinidad in southern Colorado.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
A small world, small world? Hey Dad, do appreciate the
call there, Kevin? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, we're talking about should we have our own Mount
Rushmore here? And who would you have on it?
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Honor our heroes in public arena? Absolutely, but third of
four generations seventies native leave our beautiful rocky mountains alone,
Mountain Grandma on Mountain Grandpa. I'm with you? But is
Zach if we had any callers or textures yet? Anybody
explaining what this strip mining is on the foothills? You know?
I drive home on Bellevue every night and it looks
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like they're strip mining a big swath of the foothills
just south of Denver. Does anybody know what's going on there?
I can't believe this is happening, and we've got to
try to stop it. But first I need to find
out what it is, So please, somebody tell me what's
going on there? Three h three seven one three eight
two five five text d An five seven seven three nine,
(15:48):
Texter says, Peter Boyles needs to be on Colorado's Mount
Rushmore boy It's it's wild. Does I sit in the
seat here in the studio If you're new to the
area of Pete Boyles and you know people was on
air this morning. He's just an icon of Colorado legend
and you know, a talk show host for so many
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years and used to be in this studio. He's now
with a different station, but you know he is. Pete
is one of the greats ever in the business. Dan
and Rora, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Welcome thanky fellow, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay. I was going to suggest two things. Number one
and name could be monument of excellence. Then if you're
going to put a military person on there, I would
definitely nominate Drew Dix, Congressional Medal of Honor winner out
of Vietnam.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Tell us the story.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
He was a Pueblo man. They actually named a street
down there for him, and I'm an.
Speaker 9 (16:52):
Old marine's nummy guy, and Jim and his small group
of special forces virtually single handedly.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Saved a complete Vietnamese village and captured a high ranking
Vietcong leader during the tet Offensive.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I'm going to look that up. Dan Hay, thank you man,
sure appreciate that. Drew Dix, right.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, Dix is that thing? And the guys a start man.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah awesome, Well, thank you, And that's as as we've
been getting calls and text. One of the challenges is
we have so many military heroes in Colorado. If we
only have four spots on our Mount Rushmore, who do
you put up there? But hey, we'll continue this and
much more in the news. I want to get to
as well. Threl three seven two five five text d
(17:48):
An five seventy nine and what should we call Colorado's
Mount Rushmore? You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Learned a lot during the conversation today because we're talking
about Mount Rushmore. Should Colorado have its own Mount Rushmore?
One thing I've learned is that Mount Rushmore is not
actually the name of Mount Rushmore. It's just the name
of the mountain. It's not technically the name of given
to the facade the Wall of Heroes. So we'll get
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into what that is named. But should Colorado have its
own Who should be on it? What would you name it?
I think is Zach behind the glass for Ryan today?
Well deserved a offer, Ryan Zack. It may be too
early to say there's any consensus emerging. We haven't had
enough calls or text yet to say there's a true consensus,
(18:48):
But I think it's fair to say some of the
leaders in the clubhouse Justice by Renwhite, you know, and
not a tough one there, right, I mean Colorado hero,
two term c U student Body president, Associate Justice of
the US Supreme Court, All American football player at CU,
all pro football player with the Chicago Bears, naval intelligence
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officer during World War Two. What a slacker but uh
and also just an all around good guy. So don't
you think at this point Zach he would have to
be there. You couldn't have Colorado's Mount Rushmore without He's
Justice White.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
He checks too many boxes. I think I think he's
a pretty safe bet to make it on there.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, what box does he not check? World War two?
Naval intelligence and the war hero?
Speaker 10 (19:37):
Maybe he was he was, Yeah, well but he served
yeah exactly, that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Serves yeah yeah, and uh yeah, and and I bet
as we dig into that further, we'll find the I
mean he was out there, he's on a ship. I
think he was on a ship naval intelligence. But I
think you throw in President Kennedy's only appointment to the
US Supreme Court, all American at CEU, all pro with
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the Bears. Yeah, and then of course the CU student
body President. I know this is too long a text
to get into. Okay, Another Dan. Mount Rushmore was the
name of the mountain before it was sculpted. But what
(20:26):
should we call Colorado Colorado's version because everybody calls it
Mount Rushmore? Right, what do we call Colorado's version? Dan?
With popp being legal for the last decade and a
half in Colorado hasn't been that long. Instead of Mount Rushmore.
I'm surprised it's not Mount Cushmore. Also really surprised there
isn't a pot leaf on our state flag. I think
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it's got to be so clear to everybody right now
that that was one of the biggest mistakes in Colorado history,
if not the single biggest mistake in Colorado history, the
legalization of marijuana. And hopefully someday this state will reverse it.
Don't give up hope. Remember before Colorado The only state
to have made that big mistake was Alaska in nineteen
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seventy six if I remember right. And then Alaska ended
up reversing it because there were just so much, so
many dead bodies, so many kids destroyed by it, etc.
I understand. The decades later the big marijuana money came in,
Alaska voted for it again. But yeah, before Colorado, Alaska
had been the only one. Dad, I don't know if
this is mentioned. Jack Swigert, astronaut call it the mountain
(21:32):
you put it on. Yeah, boy, what a great suggestion there,
Jack Swigert. And one of the truly great statues. Have
you ever seen that Jack Swygert statute statue at DIA. Yes, yes,
I have beautifully done right, beautifully done, And so many
statues are not like they make the head too big
(21:52):
or too small or something. Jack Swigert, just right and
after rain, John Denver, the monument should be called Colorado
Rocky Mountain high Dan Coach Prime on our Mount Rushmore. Okay, boy,
like we said, Hey, we were calling foot on the
show before anybody was for Coach Prime to come to Colorado.
So great, great contributions, but I don't think quite mount
(22:17):
Rushmore Worthy, But I'm so glad he is here. Dan.
What about Colorado's Mount Rushmore on the north wall of
the Black Canyon of the Gunnison. Wow, I have not
seen it. Thanks to the suggestion, I hope to get
up there and see it. Warren in Colorado Springs here
on the Dan Kaplis show Welcome.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah, I was just curious. Dan talked to you before
several times about things as Warren the Springs usually talk
about Ukraine. I'd want to ask you about something else,
so if I could, have you ever heard of a
command by the name of it Colonel David Shoop s.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
H o up sounds familiar, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Well he was. He won the Middle of Honor of
Tahwah in a seventies six hour fight to gain that island.
Be cost about eleven hundred marines killed and about double
that wounded in a seventy six hour fight to take
that small island of Tarawa. He became the come out
comment dow of the Marine Corps. Eventually retired out of
the Marine Corps, but he was also appoint Tee F. Eisenhower,
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who terms coming in continuing the Kennedy administration and he
had something to say in regards to Vietnam and being
a Medal of Autor winner. I think his comments should
be in World War two take a little different attitude.
I'll tell you what he said. He said and see
(23:39):
at students in May of nineteen sixty six, he told
students at Perce College, Woodland, Kells, California, all Southeast Asia,
as related to the President of future safety in freedom
of the people of this country, was not worth the
life or limb of a single American, he said. I
believe that if we had and would keep our dirty,
bloody dollar crooked fingers out of the business of these
(24:02):
nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive
at solution to their own What do you think about?
Speaker 5 (24:08):
That?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Interesting it? You know you think about Vietnam. The first
thing I think about is all the American boys who
gave their lives, all of their family members, and I'd
never want to diminish their sacrifice in any way I
think about. I was in the seminary at the time.
I remember asking the parish priest if I could just
(24:31):
during mass stand up and read a poem about Vietnam
and all the lives that had been lost. It was
I just grew up in that era. I was too
young to serve, but I just weren't. I just wouldn't
want to say anything that would disrespect the sacrifice that
was made by those Americans. Obviously, you know, you had
a lot of politicians make a lot of mistakes there,
(24:52):
and yeah, I just I wish there had not been
a single American life loss there. I just want to
show consummate respect to those who sacrificed. I was a
little kid, man, I was a little kid at the time.
But I can remember with my mom walking down the
street in Chicago and I asked her, because we're all
(25:13):
of these stars in the windows in our neighborhood. It
seemed like every block there were two or three stars.
I'm sure it wasn't that many. And we were walking
down the block and I asked my mom, I said,
why is there a star in that house now? And
she just started crying. And I was too young. She
didn't explain to me. I just vividly remember her crying
(25:34):
because I thought, a star, boy, that's really great. That's
got to be something really great, right. I didn't understand
we were talking about, you know, the ultimate sacrifice of
gold Star family and she just started crying. And yeah,
I don't think I learned for years. You know that
all of these neighbors, all of these neighbors had lost
(25:56):
a child in Vietnam three or three one, three, eight, two,
five five the number. Somebody says, Dan, you need to
save a space on that mountain for Eerie. Mike, not
sure we'll be doing that. But who would you put
on Colorado's Mount Rushmore and Zach. I don't know about you,
but I have not heard yet like the absolute winning
(26:19):
name for that. You have any suggestions.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
One that I saw just doing some research on the
military euro front Joe P.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Martinez.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
He's the first ever recipient in state history. Earned it
for his valor in World War Two. I was reading
about what he did there and which he's pretty impressive.
Helped storm a position up high, a Nazi position up
high on top of a mountain, and he helped kind
of lead the charge up it and was motivating other
(26:51):
men and women to come with him. I guess just
meant at that point, but motivating his fellow troops to
follow him into battle. Was the first ever recipient, and
say history also the first ever Hispanic American recipient Joe
MARTINZ Medal of Honor.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yes, Joe Jill.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
He's got statues. He has a park here in Denver
named after him, and he had a ship in the
Korean War named after him.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
You know, you think of you hear these stories, right,
and you think of all these people here Coloradden's who
did these things that are just unimaginably heroic, Because don't
you think Zach I mean, when you were reading about him,
he had to believe he was going to die doing that, right,
And so many of these stories we hear these are
people who said, Okay, I'm going to give my life
(27:36):
to go serve this way. I mean, that's that's just yeah.
There needs to be as many things as we can do.
But this just popped into my head as you were
telling that Joe Martinez story, and this should be the
nail and the coffin, right, there is no way in
the world. This prime spot out at DiiA that everybody
(27:58):
sees as they drive in and out should have old meth. There,
should have satan steed that that horse needs to be
taken down. And we need to have some type we
need to have some type of incredibly tall, impressive statues
there that honor at least some of these people we're
(28:19):
talking about today as we talk about people for a
Colorado Mount Rushmore, that that honor at least some of
those people. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of
the good. But that spot that has to be probably
the prime viewing spot at least on the front range
of Colorado. And who would you put there? And wouldn't
that be so cool, Zach if we had like these
(28:42):
these five six story statues there of these heroic figures.
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
And now back to the dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
We're talking about Colorado. Should we have our own Mount Rushmore?
And what would you call it? Who would be on it?
You got four to work with? Who do you put there?
A lot of folks this afternoon can't claim a consensus.
We haven't enough calls and text for that, but clear
leaders in the clubhouse, Justice White, Kendrick Castile. But there
(29:21):
have been many others and it's been great. I've learned
so much just about all these really heroic Coloraden's I
hadn't even heard of before. And that's why I think,
and that's how we started the show, right, we need
to be and it needs to be intentional. We need
to make a concerted effort to do a better job
of honoring the Coloradens who represent the best of us, right,
(29:42):
the virtues, the character, everything else you want the little
kids to emulate, and just focusing on them and things like, yeah,
tear down Satan Steed at Dia and put up you
couldn't get them all in there, right, But even if
it was like two or three of these enormous, impressive,
large statues of the same kind of people, we'd put
(30:03):
on our Mount Rushmore. Texter says, I recommend Saint Francis Cabrini. Boy,
what what a tremendous idea. Right opened so many orphanages,
so many schools, did so much great work for the
miners in Colorado and around the world for that matter.
Julia Greeley, right, a freed slave, became the quote angel
of Charity in Denver. She's being considered for sainthood, as
(30:27):
Kendrick Castillo is as well. So yeah, let's let's start
making an effort to do that. I know there's plenty
of bad in the world. We talk about it all
the time, probably too much, but let's yeah, let's focus
some more on the good. Zach As we've gone through
it to says, here's one Dan, how about Judge Mage
on a mountain. He didn't take blank from anybody on
(30:49):
either side. That is so true, having had the privilege
of appearing before Judgemge. So, Zach As you have pondered this,
I know you're back. You're doing the research everything else.
What other suggestions? And have you come up with a
good name for our Mount Rushmore?
Speaker 10 (31:07):
We need the name for it, for the name I
was thinking, rather than you know, naming it, you know,
the Monument of Valor, I don't know, something like that,
giving naming it after another name like Mount Rushmore Rushmore
is I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
It sounds like someone's name.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
I figured you could honor a fifth person by naming
whatever mountain after that figure. And then that way you're
kind of working an additional figure in because one thing
I have noticed, taking these calls and everything, there is
a wide range of people you could go with.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah. No, that's a good point, which brings us to
this other issue is do we need you know President
Trump is planning this? What's he calling it? Is he
calling it the Garden of Heroes, but where you're gonna
have like one hundred different statues of you know, top
American heroes from all walks of life. We need that somewhere.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The first thing that comes to mind is down on
the state Capitol. But who wants to go down there anymore?
You know, given what the left has done with that city?
Where would you put something like that? Because you're right,
there are so many where would you put that? And
I want to give some more thought to the name
over the weekend, also because I think this is a
great idea, not because it was mine, but I just
(32:20):
think we need that sort of thing. Like you ever
listen to Dennis Prager, who now is.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
I've heard him here and there.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yea, it's a brilliant guy. And I had a chance
to meet him in person a few times MC some
events he spoke at and brilliant, brilliant, great man and
now battling these horrific, horrific health problems. But he always
used to do this happiness hour each week. Maybe we
should start a happiness hour.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
We need more of that in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Only because it's not being pollyannish or cheerleader. It's just
when you look objectively what's going on in the world,
there's so much more good than bad. But ninety nine
percent of the news average to talk radio time, everything
else goes to the bad. I mean, just in the
interest of balance, let alone the good stuff to come
(33:09):
from a gym. Maybe we need to do our own
version of that.
Speaker 10 (33:12):
I heard a great There was this college football coach
this weekend who was talking to the media, you know,
having his normal press conference, and he was talking about
negativity and positivity.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And he took a piece of paper.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Out and like a marker or a pen, and drew
a black circle in the middle of it and held
it up to the media and goes, what do you see.
Someone goes, oh, I see a black dot, And he's like,
most people see the black dot, they don't see the
white page that surrounds it.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, fascinating, fascinating, And I guess to a certain extent,
it's kind of a self defense measure, right, just to okay,
focus on what's the threat out there? You know, what's bad?
What's what's the threat? What do we need to fix?
But just for the sake of sanity and positivity and
moving forward, we need just some dedicated space where we're
(34:00):
going to focus on the positive. Also, well positive is
it's time for the weekend? Is that great to work
with you? Thank you, my friend. I hope you have
a wonderful one. Expecting a big Bronco in predicting a
CEO upset of Iowa State, So looking forward to that game. Also,
I have a great weekend. Catching Monday on The Dan
Kapla Show.
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