October 16, 2025 • 34 mins
Wayne Laugesen started the buzz of a potential George Brauchler run for governor, citing polling data showing him besting the current GOP field in Colorado, all of which is news to the 23rd district attorney. Shouuld Brauchler enter the race? What effect might Colorado Springs mayor Yemi Mobolade's presence have as a third-party independent?
Ace Frehley died Thursday at the age of 74, Ryan remembers the late KISS guitarists with some of his best-known songs. Dan still prefers Styx when it comes to four-letter bands.
Ace Frehley died Thursday at the age of 74, Ryan remembers the late KISS guitarists with some of his best-known songs. Dan still prefers Styx when it comes to four-letter bands.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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is exciting him. I'm getting excited now. Just talk to
Wayne Logison from Wayne's Word, and he says that Yummy Mobilatt,
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the mayor of Colorado Springs, maybe getting into the governor's race.
He would get in as an independent. And I said
the other day, maybe it was too quickly that well, okay,
an independent can't win in Colorado, but maybe in this
cycle maybe Yemmy Mobilatt could, particularly if he's pro life.
Now Wayne doesn't know, he has not had that conversation
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with Yemmy. When is the mayor coming on with us?
Ryan Tuesday four six for two segments, two segments wonderful. Yeah,
I'd love to get him in studio sometime, but in
any case, we'll have that conversation and that'll be one
of the first questions I ask him. You know, whether
he's pro life, because for me that obviously it's foundational
because if they kill you, then the other issues don't
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matter as much. So but this could really be intriguing.
And then Wayne mentioned that George Brockler may be getting
into the race. I think he was quoting a Forbes
article and some polling that was done. And so I've
texted George. Let's see if he's texted me back. I
don't know that he has.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He's gasting me and I sent him a Wedding Crashers meme.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh okay, well then yeah, if he goes that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well he'll get the reference. But as I've found out,
you have not seen that movie Wedding Crashers.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I've seen it four times.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We see you come out of left field with some
of these.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've seen it four times.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What do you do the scene?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So which scene?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, Vince Vaughn's character lets Owen Wilson know that he
has a special wedding crashing trip planned. Yeah, and Owen
Wilson turns him. He slams the tables, you sandbag and son.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Of Am and then I see, yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well it applies to George if he's running for governor.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah, because we text look at me, Ti,
we text I've texted with him than I've texted with Amy.
Now we have other means of communication. But yeah, yeah,
I'm texting with George all the time. He said about that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I texted him earlier today about an unrelated topic, and
then I texted him that meme and he'll get it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, Okay, well let's get it. Let's see what he says.
For those not familiar with winning Crashers, you know, if
you have kids, or sensibilities or morals, you probably don't
want to.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
See the movie phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Got it was. That's why I saw it four times.
Kathy and Hugo, you're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Welcome, well, thank you. I enjoy program so much. I
frequently email and call our senators and president representatives too,
with concerns that I have the illegals of climb in
Colorado and most recently the government shutdown. I got an
email back from Senator Bennett and in the email, I
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think it was a group eatail. I'm sure it was.
He said that the Republicans are to blame for the
shutdown and that while the government is shut down, he
will not take his pay. I don't think they should
get paid when we're shut down, but I know legally
they are. But we need to get more word out
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about Senator Bennett. He is just I think he's worthless,
but he's pointing fingers and giving people the wrong impression.
We have to let people know what's really going on.
I'm glad you do that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And I tried. I tried to respond to his email,
but it wouldn't let you a new email to him.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what the key is, Kathy, if I can
make a suggestion, the key is to call the office
because they I know, our son used to work that
position in two different US senator's offices, and they have
calls to the office have significantly more impact, and they
have a very organized process for recording and reporting those.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, and I've heard that they keep track and I
do call good But I'm a meg, so I take every.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Approach, all of the above. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But when I called hicken Looper's office, the message says
that due to the Republicans shutting down the government, they're
not in the office.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh so that's how devoted he is to this country.
Right First, John Hickenlooper is very wealthy, and I respect
him for his prosperity. It's hard earned and good on him.
But he could afford to throw some interns in their
answering calls. Second, if he's that committed to America, the
round up some volunteers and get him in there to
answer some calls. Kathy, thank you for reporting on that,
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and thank you for being an active citizen. Wow, so
so hiccken Looper won't even feel constituent calls. Ryan, you
heard that.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You should be protected and stuff like that. It's a
pretty good hit.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And that is And listen, John is a nice guy.
Every time I've been around him, we've enjoyed each other.
His ideology is just awful for the state, right though,
this whole leftist ideology and ideologically he's a wolf in
sheep's clothing, but he's he's an enjoyable guy to be around.
And you know, we're very when you look at it
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this way. First, this state needs two Republican senators. Sorry
for all the reasons we talk about, but if you
have to have Democrats, and we don't, but if you're
going to have Democrats, you want him to Bennett and
higgin Looper because they're completely ineffective. I mean, really, Ryan,
can you think of any US Senator in America who
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is less effective than either John Hickenlooper or Michael Bennett.
This is not a pejorative that there isn't one.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They're going through the motions and they are not the
go tos, shall we say, on the talk show circuits,
the Sunday Morning shows, any of that, either one of them,
any of those platforms, any of those states.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, they don't have the capital. The only way you're
going to be effective as a US senator is if
you have the capital, if you have some way to
move the needle. And for some people, they may be
a small state senator, they are parties out of power,
but they've got the ability to use that platform to
go out there and to persuade, to advance the agenda,
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et cetera. These two guys from Colorado, they don't bring
any of that. And the you know, the the fascinating
thing is, you know, while the ideology is all wrong,
you have some talented young Democrats who Bennett and Hickenlooper
are keeping off the board. They're they're keeping them from
these high ranking positions because you've got these completely ineffective
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old guys just occupying seats. But it's just in the end.
The big point is it just shows you the dishonesty
of the modern Democratic party.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They don't care about minorities, they don't care about when,
and they don't care about all these issues. They just
care about their own power, getting it and keeping it,
even though they're not doing anything to advance their cause.
And thank goodness for that, because it's a terrible cause.
They have three at three sevenone, three eight, two, five
five texts d an five seven, seven through nine. You know,
it's the first time I think we've had somebody who's
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been a guest on this show indicted. Yeah, he sat
right there for a long time and now he's indicted today,
John Bolton. And we're not getting a lot of details yet,
but as we get deeper in the case, we'll share
more of that with you. A lot of texts that
are just too long to get in, Please do try
to keep them. Do a sentence or two at the most.
(07:42):
After textur Day and after George Brockler sold all of
us gun owners down the river with red Flag, I
have very little trust in him and not sure that
I would vote for him ever. Thank you for that text,
because I know that's an issue out there, and I'd
really like to take that head on because I've known
George for a very long time and a lot of
different circumstances, including practicing law with them. And I can
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tell you right now, as a guy who literally has
more guns at my house than I can count, I
would have one hundred percent confidence in George Brockler when
it comes to my two way rights. One hundred percent confidence.
And hey, listen, I understand concerns about different versions of
Red Flag and votes on it and things like that,
But all I'm saying is, you know, give him a chance.
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If George is getting in this race, give him a
chance and let him just lay out you know where
he ended up on red Flag and why. But all
I can tell you is, and you know, bringing a
stack of bibles, put me on a polly and I
would pass both tests. I would have, and for good reason,
one hundred percent confidence in George on two way issues.
Jennifer and Parker, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Welcome, Hey Dan, good to talk to you too. What
do you think I'm curious? You know, this M mobile
audience is really curious to me. And here's why. Now
I'm a committed Republican. I like Barb Kirkmeyer governor. Yeah,
because she has the well, there's the economic prowess that
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this state needs to get on its economic feet first
and foremost, you know, the cultural stuff needs to change too,
But economics are going to drive this election in my opinion. Now,
I'm not convinced that a Republican is in a position
to win this election, so therefore we default to Wiser Bennett.
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I'm thinking Bennett's the lesser of two evils. But you
put Yemi Mobiladi in there, and I think he's got
appeal to a wide range of voters. Clearly, fifty percent
or more at this point in Colorado of the voting
population are unaffiliated, and they're unaffiliated for a reason, because
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they're not happy with either party. I think he might
have appeal. And I think here's what I'm going to
make this case for a report publicans is it might
be a good idea because this steamship is going so
far down the DEM road, it's going to take a
gradual turning back before we're going to get a common
sense Colorado. Again. It's not going to happen with a
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snap of a finger.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Jennifer, are you saying then that if jam mobilate, first
of all, would it matter to you whether he's pro life.
If he's not pro life, I could not support him
for whatever. That's sort of.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
The problem with him coming out as pro life. Dan
and you know this, and we could probably have a
long conversation with Jennifer.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can you do me a favorite, because in Colorado, I
think we're going to disagree on this, and I want
you to have all the airtime you need because this
is a great discussion to have. Can you stay through
a break?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, great, Great, We'll come back with Jennifer on the
other side, because we disagree on this and it's good
to have the conversation. I think where Jennifer is going
is that, hey, if jam Mobilaate is pro life, he's
not going to win as an independent. We'll see if
that's what Jennifer says. And I would disagree completely on
that and we can lay out our reasons. But I
also think Jennifer suggesting that as a Republican she might
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support Mmobolatti as an independent because it would be the
best chance to defeat the Democrat. What do you think
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I met yesterday with some of the highest ranking members
of the delegation that we'll be meeting with President Zelenski
delegation from Ukraine, and they are very, very hopeful that
President Trump will authorize those Tomahawk missiles, which are so
important to going after the places and production.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, what do you think should the US give Ukraine
Tomawk missiles to use? Now? Of course, the big news
sense that clip is that President says he and Putin
are going to meet in Budapest within the next couple
of weeks, following an advanced meeting Rubio and high ranking Russians. Now,
you would think that normally this would signal that a
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deal is in the works, at least a cease fire deal.
And obviously if Trump's able to achieve this on top
of everything else, You'll have to go beyond the term
historically great president to describe what we're experiencing together right now. Now,
the reasons behind this upcoming some and I've got my thoughts,
but I want to get to him after we're finished
(12:26):
speaking with Jennifer. I love Jennifer's call. Jennifer's calling from
Partnership Parkner. She's calling about the governor's race. And before
the break she was saying, Hey, she's a Republican, supports
Barbara Kirkmeyer. But the news that Jemmy Mobilate is probably
getting in the governor's race as an independent candidate the
current mayor of Colorado Springs raises interesting possibilities. Jennifer take
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it from there. And I know the issue on the
table when we went to break was the life issue.
And my position is I simply can't vote for a
candidate who's pro abortion. I don't know where Yemmy's at
on that. He's going to join me Tuesday at four
thirty six, I'll ask him. And Jennifer was about to say, no, Dan,
you got it wrong. So please, Jennifer tell everybody how
wrong I am.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I don't know that you have it completely wrong. I
hate to phrase things. I hate to be so black
and white about that. And here's why. Twenty twenty two, Dan,
let's go to that election. One of the best candidates
to run as a Republican statewide was John Kellner. John
Kellner was a I mean, I think out of all
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the candidates that ran statewide, he finished the best. Yes,
but here's what phil Wiser did, and this is what
Democrats do. They take that abortion issue and they tag
it on that candidate. And so what pil Wiser did
to John Kellner was he said, if you elect this man,
he is going he's going to threaten your abortion rights
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because he's pro life. That was not true. I went
to countless debates and John Kellner said, I personally am
pro life, However, the state law is such that it
cannot be challenged, and therefore I have to uphold the law.
And he still got that label of being someone who
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was going to shut down women's rights. That's what the
left does day, right.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But Jennifer, thank you for raising twenty two. Isn't that
the twenty two election the one that confirms my belief
because yeah, John Kellner, who's my current law partner, is
managing partner of our firm. I was a phenomenal candidate,
one of the best candidate we've had in many, many years.
And as Jennifer says, he was the top vote getter
for the GOP and he was true to his pro
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life position on the other hand, we had another tremendously
talented candidate, and Joe O'Day, who was our Republican candidate
for Senate. He was pro abortion, and Joe Oday got smoked.
John Kellner did better than Joe Oday. So doesn't that
prove my point that if our Republican candidates abandoned the
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unborn and now say their pro abortion, they're first going
to be wrong? And what's the sense in winning if
you're just going to be wrong? But second, it's just
going to get you beat.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think you have evidence that proves that it's not
beyond a reasonable doubt. How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, wait, wait a second, Jennifer, We and a lot
of really good smart people think as you do, that
if the GOP just abandons the life issue, the GOP
will do better in Colorado. But it wouldn't. And because
the math issue is you're going to have so many
GOP voters and unaffiliated to vote for the GOP and
the life issue who would abandon the GOP if it
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abandoned life? And Joe Oday proves that. Do you agree
with me, Jennifer? He was a tremendous candidate in every
other way. Joe O'Day was he was good.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I would say he was a good candidate. I think
there could have been a better candidate. I think we
need a little more spark, a little more positive. I
think the candidate that finally turns it for Republicans is
going to be the one that goes out and provides inspiration,
not you know, inspiring of what Colorado could be, what
the economy could be. I mean, of course we're going
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to have to point fingers at the left, but I
think people are tired with both sides and they want
to be inspired.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And Jennifer, I think that's why you called originally. Are
you saying that as a Republican you may support you
Mobilat as an independent candidate because you think he'd have
a better chance to beat the Democrat than the Republican would.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm not sure. It depends on what he runs, on
what he talks about. It depends on how the Republican
candidates are doing. I hate to say, you know, I'm
a fairweather voter, but if they're strong polling that shows
that Mobilatti could beat a Democrat, might support him just
to get it over because in the long run, I
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think you have a third party candidate it's going to
favor the Democrat running. But I think the Democrat is
favored anyway, Sister, Sister, Sister, Jennifer time until.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Year whoa, And I got to tell you, I think
the math is very obvious. If m. A. Mobilari runs
as an independent, he's going to take far more, I think,
away from the Democrat than the Republican because assuming Michael
Bennett's the dem nominee, there is zero excitement for Michael Bennett.
And he's going to have a lot of money and
this and that, but zero excitement. And so I see
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an awful lot of Dems who are going to look
at this articulate, intelligent, interesting guy mayor of Colorado Springs
who happens to be African American, and they're going to
say that excites me more than Michael Bennett. I think
he's much more likely to peel off Democrats and maybe
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that opens.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The door for the any of the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but Deve Jennifer Green, is he more excited? Is
more excited?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Thank you? Dan?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Do you think that Jemmy Mobilatti is more exciting than
any of the Republicans so far? That's that would be key.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What a great question. Let me pick that up after
this break, Jennifer. And you know, we hear a lot
of people are excited about Victor Marx. I'm anxious to
talk to him. It'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. Glad you're
here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Buddy called me during the break and he said, name,
you're telling people you've been practicing law forty one years.
He said, I graduated with you. It's forty two. How
do you miss a whole year?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
A whole year?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So it has been forty two years. Sworn in on Halloween.
Very appropriate coming up three oh three seven one three
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five seven seven three nine. I am excited now. This
last call from Jennifer. Great caller from Parker and she's
supporting Barb Kirkmeyer. And you know she helps Republicans win,
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does Jennifer? And she's saying, wait a second, if Yemmy Mobili,
the mayor of Colorado Springs, is really getting in this
race as an independent, is he the better chance to
beat the Democrat than the Republican candidate? Yeah, so we're
we're really going to get into that. We'll spend a
lot of time on it tomorrow. Now, she wasn't endorsing
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I'm saying she was going to support him. She was
just raising that question. She doesn't know enough about him
yet to know whether she would support him, and we're
going to learn more Tuesday at four thirty six, Right Ryan,
when Mobilatti will join us for two segments. We've had
him on before and enjoyed our conversations, but they reached
out to us this time, and that tells me he's running.
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So one of my very first questions, if not the first,
is going to be, you know, are you pro life?
And well, a better question, will you be a pro
life governor in terms of policy? You know, because you
get all these knuckleheads who say, oh, yeah, I'm pro life,
but I'm not going to be that way in off Yeah,
then what good are you? Right? So that's like somebody's
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saying I'm against slavery, but in office, yeah, chain them up,
do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean that kind of garbage,
But I want to find out would he be a
pro life governor? Now, he let plenty of Republican voters
who will say, I don't care I don't care if
he is or not. I want to defeat the Democrats
because of the economic stuff. I want to defeat the
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Democrats for the hundred other reasons we should all want
to defeat the Democrats. But I would certainly like to know.
And this we do know. And I was not a
math major, but I can count pretty well. We do
know that if the GOP was to abandon its pro
life position, the GOP would be aborted. GOP would die
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because it would It wouldn't lose everybody, but it would
lose so many voters that it would have no chance
to win anymore. And that's the way it should be, right,
What is the point of winning if you're going to
do the wrong thing with the power just to say
I want yeah, Oh great, so you one now and
you're the person who can support slavery because you gave
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in all the people who want slavery. No. No, The
only reason to want to win is to do the
right thing. And if to win you have to do
the wrong thing, then what's the point of winning? Three
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very cool when you actually stand up to wrong. The
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odds are against you, the winds in your face, the
mountain is tall, and you say, I'm on the right
side of this. I'm on the right side of history.
I'm on the right side of morality. I'm on the
right side of medicine. I'm on the right side of everything.
And the odds are against me. But I'm going to win,
and then you win. That's really cool. Donald Trump almost
want the exact opposite direction. During most of his adult life,
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I understood him to be probably pro choice, but then
you had doubts about him. Twenty sixteen, it was kind
of unknown, and he became perhaps the best strongest pro
life president we've ever had. And then he holds a
press conference today.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Dan, I'm not sure how you feel about this issue,
but he's extremely supportive of IVF and of enabling that
procedure for young companies.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And President Trump may still be pro choice, but he's
still the most pro life president, the best pro life
president we've had in our lifetime. He has saved countless
lives through his pro life policy positions. But at heart, Ryan,
if you had to bet, if you had to bet
your Bugatti on whether he is personally pro choice or not.
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Would what would you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Bet Donald Trump at this point? Yeah, I think he's
a changed, fundamentally changed man. I think Butler Pennsylvania changed
him in a big, big way and made him much
more reflective and religious. I think he's personally very pro
pro life right now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Interesting he might be. He might be if somebody said, Okay, Dan,
really you got to bet your life, your life, and
we're going to find out right now. It's in this
envelope right here, if he is pro life or pro
choice personally, and we're going to open this envelope. So
two minutes from now, you're going to be alive or dead.
Based on this answer, I would say that's pretty heavy,
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But I would also say pro choice. My guess is
that at heart he is pro choice. But from a
policy standpoint, I think he's a man of integrity. He
ran on these promises to actually have Supreme Court justices
who will interpret the law rather than make it, and
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he ran on these promises to adopt these pro life
positions and he delivered on him. So he has been
the most pro life president of our lifetime, no question
about it. But at heart is he pro life? For
pro choice? I would have to say he's probably still
pro choice, and I don't care in this sense. What
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I care about is what somebody does it. They're so
I have no use for these people say, oh, I'm
pro life, but in office, No, I'm going to leave
the choice on slavery to you, or I'm going to
leave the choice on abortion to you. I have no
use for those people. I'd rather have a Donald Trump
or somebody else who's personally pro choice, but it's going
to be pro life in office from a policy standpoint.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Every time I've seen President Trump speak on this issue
of late in particular, maybe it's his wisdom in his
old age. Maybe it's having grandchildren of his own. He
loves babies. I love them. They're great. You know, he's
just talking in a very warm, engaging tone.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Of there's only one guy, an X who does a
better Trump than you do.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's Sean Ferish.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And you know, Ryan, it is quite possible, quite quite
quite possible. You're right that that Butler changed him. I mean,
just I mean, come on, he believes, as I believe
in many others believe that God saved him in that field.
And yeah, maybe that if he was pro choice before
that and maybe that changed him. We know as a
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fact there are so many people who are pro abortion
because you can't really call it pro choice. The baby
doesn't have a choice, right, they're pro abortion, and then
they changed when they had their first child. So it's
probably ninety nine to one or ninety nine thousand to
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one the number of people who change their position on abortion,
who change from being pro abortion to pro life versus
those who go from pro life to pro abortion. For
every one person who goes from pro life to pro abortion,
I think you probably have a million people who go
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from pro abortion to pro life for obvious reasons. You
just follow the facts, you follow the medicine, you follow
the truth. Yeah, so we may never know. On President Trump.
All I know is from a policy standpoint, which is
what matters, because that's what either saves or kills lives.
From a policy standpoint, he has been the greatest pro
life president of my lifetime by a lot, not an inch,
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but a mile, And I literally thank God for that
and for the Trump voters who made it happen, of
which I was one, a meaningless one, but still mattered
to me. Three h three seven one three eight two
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not understand at all. Ryan, what is this omg Ace Freely?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, I told you that during the breakdown. That's why
I'm playing the Kiss music in Ace Freeley's music. He
passed away at the age of seventy four, one of
the foundational members of Kiss.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh the Kiss of Death. Oh yeah, sorry to sad
rest his soul. It's funny. They were radical in their lifetime, right,
I mean he kiss the whole thing, and now it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Would be it's pretty tame to be. Okay, that's my
first The Halloween costume was a Gene Simmons mass and
I was that for Halloween at age four. A lot
of nineteen seventy eight memories.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Right noweteen seventy eight, Yeah, because John Paul the.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Great, right, we talked about that to start the show
comes full circle.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, today, that's the anniversary today, Dan, single issue voter
question mark three question marks A yeah, just like the
abolitionist right, just like the people who opposed slavery, they
were single issue voters. Do you think people would be
critical of them today? Saying oh, blanky blank, single issue
(27:33):
voters opposing slavery. Now they'd say, hey, those most people
got it right, they had it figured out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Dan Trump carried thirty percent pro abortion voters in Missouri, Nevada, Arizona.
According to NPR, that is no surprise at all, and
it's one of a million different reasons, starting with like
right and wrong, go thro out a Republican party should
never abandon its pro life position because first you are
a gonna, well, you're doing the right thing, and that's
what matters. But electorally, you're still going to get a
(28:05):
lot of votes from people who would prefer that the
laws be pro choice, but they have other priorities and
the Republicans is going to better fulfill those priorities. So
don't listen to those who say we should abandon what's
right just to try to win. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Can agree? God rest the show. That's just not very
good music.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's kissing.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Cultural happened. Yeah, but I mean truly, if you didn't
know that, and you blindfolded yourself and you were putting
a gym, you would think, Okay, that's some high school
band at a high school dance, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You What about Sticks back when you encountered them, man
out of the gate, they were so good even back then.
They're young, very old.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was the same thing. Like
I could close my eyes right now, I keep my
eyes open and I can picture them like it happened
two minutes ago doing Lady in our high school gym.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So you were impressed by them.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But they were just as well. It was just it
was better music than what you just played. All right,
it really would. Don't you think?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So Sticks greater than Kiss.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In your Oh not even close?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what about his performance? Because it was really lesatrical
to costumes.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If Kiss hadn't done the makeup, that's what I mean,
nobody'd be talking about them, right. It's like it's like
under arm or the product. If they had called that
sports underwear, none of us ever would have bought it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Good point, Yeah, good comparison, pretty solid metaphor.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Actually, thank you, my friend. Did you see that video
I just sent you me draining that what free throw
at ball arena?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's recent if you like that form? Wow, I look
at step on the line.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
My father's son. My father was a great what's that?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is this a reverse video? Orre you left handed?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm left handed?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Youre's sandbagger. I didn't know you were.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Like, I'm kind of ambidextrous.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
But I shoot I basketball left handed, right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I throw left of it left right, right, eat right,
I eat right?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah you do?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I never knew that about you being a south paul.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Did you fight left handed? Boxing? No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right handed?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I see you're throwing me off? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And my opponents? Where'd that come from? Too late? All right?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, So tell me how you like that form?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So very out?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, my dad was a great college basketball player.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Is a referee too, right?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, really good referee? Three oh three seven three eight
two five five The number text d a N five
seven seven three nine probably helps to be a six three,
two hundred and thirty pound rip Chicago police officer when
you're roughing high school.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Games, don't get a lot of guff that way.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It helps to know basketball. But you know, he he was,
he was such a good guy, this big, strong, tough guy,
but such a good guy. He'd always you know, never
fired his gun, got out of work. The toughest Neighborhood's
got out a lot of tough situations just with his
smarts and his imposing presence, but never fired his gun.
Thirty years Chicago p d on the on the streets.
(31:11):
But like when he'd ref these games and this, you know,
there would be some very tense jam gyms and everything else,
sometimes different races, and he just always everybody was men,
addressed everybody as men. It could be some freshmen on
the court and dressed him as men, and he was
just able to keep things calm. But all right, let's
go back to the phone lines. We'll take some text
(31:33):
as well. If you just joined us. Thanks, a lot
of really important stuff going on today. To me, topping
it all is, you know the guy who used to
sit right there, two feet away indicted today. Who would
have seen that coming? Yeah, John Bolton on Bolton, John Bolton,
regular guest on the show, indicted. I guess we all
saw it coming. But we'll find out together whether he's
(31:54):
convicted or not. I don't see John Bolton doing a
plea deal, so we will find that out together. But
I think topping the charts today by far is the
announcement that Trump and Putin are going to have a summit,
and they say a couple of weeks in Budapest after
some advance work is done by Secretary of State Rubio
and high ranking Russians. So normally, Ryan, wouldn't you think
(32:18):
that this is not being announced unless they have a
deal or they believe they're going to have a deal,
whether it's a ceasefire deal or whether it's an actual
ceasefire pending a proposed well Trump deal.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Trump's on a heater. He's ended eight oars in eight months,
so just brought peace to the Middle East, So why
not stop the war in your Ukraine as well?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, but if it's really happening, and you have to
believe it is, or this would not be right after
the disappointment up in Alaska, which it may turn out
was just important groundwork. But if it's really happening, why now?
And my theory on that is, listen, Putin is evil, right,
It's no different than Satan himself coming up, been thrown
(33:00):
on an expensive suit and tie and sitting in that
office in Moscow. He's just raw evil incarnate. So why
if they're doing a deal, any kind of deal that
would be reasonable and I put reasonable quotes because Putin
is the devil. He raped and pillaged Ukraine. He had
no right to be in there. He shouldn't get one
(33:20):
inch of territory, but he will. And the reason he
will is not Trump's fault. It's Europe's fault because Europe
had to make a decision and decided not to stand
up to Putin. Europe decided to sacrifice Ukraine if it
had to. So that's why Putin is going to get
some territory when he shouldn't get an inch. But that
kind of deal is going to be better than than
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allowing the mass carnage to continue, because Putin has made
it clear he will kill as many Russians and Ukrainians,
says he has to to continue this war. So why
Ryan in my theory is this, if it's really happening,
it's because Trump has shown a new way. He's shown
a new way in the Mid East, and I believe
he's shown a new way to Russia, which is, hey,
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you can be very popular successful leaders through peace and prosperity.
And so Trump is if you look what's happening now
in God's in the Mid East. Trump first goes in
and he does these financial deals with these critical rulers
in the Mid East, not all of them, but most,
and he talked about it. President Trump did again today,
(34:26):
you know, in the two hour Collie Edward putin all
the talk about prosperity for Russia, different trade opportunities, etc.
And so I think this is this new path that
Trump is carving out. Others have talked about it in
theory before, but he's making it work in ways nobody's
seen before. So let's say prayer it works here too. Ran,
great job. Please join us tomorrow on The Dan Caplo Show.
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. And Nancy Way
is exciting him. I'm getting excited now. Just talk to
Wayne Logison from Wayne's Word, and he says that Yummy Mobilatt,
(00:23):
the mayor of Colorado Springs, maybe getting into the governor's race.
He would get in as an independent. And I said
the other day, maybe it was too quickly that well, okay,
an independent can't win in Colorado, but maybe in this
cycle maybe Yemmy Mobilatt could, particularly if he's pro life.
Now Wayne doesn't know, he has not had that conversation
(00:45):
with Yemmy. When is the mayor coming on with us?
Ryan Tuesday four six for two segments, two segments wonderful. Yeah,
I'd love to get him in studio sometime, but in
any case, we'll have that conversation and that'll be one
of the first questions I ask him. You know, whether
he's pro life, because for me that obviously it's foundational
because if they kill you, then the other issues don't
(01:08):
matter as much. So but this could really be intriguing.
And then Wayne mentioned that George Brockler may be getting
into the race. I think he was quoting a Forbes
article and some polling that was done. And so I've
texted George. Let's see if he's texted me back. I
don't know that he has.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He's gasting me and I sent him a Wedding Crashers meme.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh okay, well then yeah, if he goes that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well he'll get the reference. But as I've found out,
you have not seen that movie Wedding Crashers.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I've seen it four times.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
We see you come out of left field with some
of these.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've seen it four times.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What do you do the scene?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So which scene?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, Vince Vaughn's character lets Owen Wilson know that he
has a special wedding crashing trip planned. Yeah, and Owen
Wilson turns him. He slams the tables, you sandbag and son.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Of Am and then I see, yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well it applies to George if he's running for governor.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, oh my goodness. Yeah, because we text look at me, Ti,
we text I've texted with him than I've texted with Amy.
Now we have other means of communication. But yeah, yeah,
I'm texting with George all the time. He said about that.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I texted him earlier today about an unrelated topic, and
then I texted him that meme and he'll get it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, Okay, well let's get it. Let's see what he says.
For those not familiar with winning Crashers, you know, if
you have kids, or sensibilities or morals, you probably don't
want to.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
See the movie phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Got it was. That's why I saw it four times.
Kathy and Hugo, you're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Welcome, well, thank you. I enjoy program so much. I
frequently email and call our senators and president representatives too,
with concerns that I have the illegals of climb in
Colorado and most recently the government shutdown. I got an
email back from Senator Bennett and in the email, I
(02:57):
think it was a group eatail. I'm sure it was.
He said that the Republicans are to blame for the
shutdown and that while the government is shut down, he
will not take his pay. I don't think they should
get paid when we're shut down, but I know legally
they are. But we need to get more word out
(03:19):
about Senator Bennett. He is just I think he's worthless,
but he's pointing fingers and giving people the wrong impression.
We have to let people know what's really going on.
I'm glad you do that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And I tried. I tried to respond to his email,
but it wouldn't let you a new email to him.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know what the key is, Kathy, if I can
make a suggestion, the key is to call the office
because they I know, our son used to work that
position in two different US senator's offices, and they have
calls to the office have significantly more impact, and they
have a very organized process for recording and reporting those.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yes, and I've heard that they keep track and I
do call good But I'm a meg, so I take every.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Approach, all of the above. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But when I called hicken Looper's office, the message says
that due to the Republicans shutting down the government, they're
not in the office.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh so that's how devoted he is to this country.
Right First, John Hickenlooper is very wealthy, and I respect
him for his prosperity. It's hard earned and good on him.
But he could afford to throw some interns in their
answering calls. Second, if he's that committed to America, the
round up some volunteers and get him in there to
answer some calls. Kathy, thank you for reporting on that,
(04:51):
and thank you for being an active citizen. Wow, so
so hiccken Looper won't even feel constituent calls. Ryan, you
heard that.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You should be protected and stuff like that. It's a
pretty good hit.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And that is And listen, John is a nice guy.
Every time I've been around him, we've enjoyed each other.
His ideology is just awful for the state, right though,
this whole leftist ideology and ideologically he's a wolf in
sheep's clothing, but he's he's an enjoyable guy to be around.
And you know, we're very when you look at it
(05:24):
this way. First, this state needs two Republican senators. Sorry
for all the reasons we talk about, but if you
have to have Democrats, and we don't, but if you're
going to have Democrats, you want him to Bennett and
higgin Looper because they're completely ineffective. I mean, really, Ryan,
can you think of any US Senator in America who
(05:45):
is less effective than either John Hickenlooper or Michael Bennett.
This is not a pejorative that there isn't one.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
They're going through the motions and they are not the
go tos, shall we say, on the talk show circuits,
the Sunday Morning shows, any of that, either one of them,
any of those platforms, any of those states.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, they don't have the capital. The only way you're
going to be effective as a US senator is if
you have the capital, if you have some way to
move the needle. And for some people, they may be
a small state senator, they are parties out of power,
but they've got the ability to use that platform to
go out there and to persuade, to advance the agenda,
(06:24):
et cetera. These two guys from Colorado, they don't bring
any of that. And the you know, the the fascinating
thing is, you know, while the ideology is all wrong,
you have some talented young Democrats who Bennett and Hickenlooper
are keeping off the board. They're they're keeping them from
these high ranking positions because you've got these completely ineffective
(06:48):
old guys just occupying seats. But it's just in the end.
The big point is it just shows you the dishonesty
of the modern Democratic party.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They don't care about minorities, they don't care about when,
and they don't care about all these issues. They just
care about their own power, getting it and keeping it,
even though they're not doing anything to advance their cause.
And thank goodness for that, because it's a terrible cause.
They have three at three sevenone, three eight, two, five
five texts d an five seven, seven through nine. You know,
it's the first time I think we've had somebody who's
(07:20):
been a guest on this show indicted. Yeah, he sat
right there for a long time and now he's indicted today,
John Bolton. And we're not getting a lot of details yet,
but as we get deeper in the case, we'll share
more of that with you. A lot of texts that
are just too long to get in, Please do try
to keep them. Do a sentence or two at the most.
(07:42):
After textur Day and after George Brockler sold all of
us gun owners down the river with red Flag, I
have very little trust in him and not sure that
I would vote for him ever. Thank you for that text,
because I know that's an issue out there, and I'd
really like to take that head on because I've known
George for a very long time and a lot of
different circumstances, including practicing law with them. And I can
(08:04):
tell you right now, as a guy who literally has
more guns at my house than I can count, I
would have one hundred percent confidence in George Brockler when
it comes to my two way rights. One hundred percent confidence.
And hey, listen, I understand concerns about different versions of
Red Flag and votes on it and things like that,
But all I'm saying is, you know, give him a chance.
(08:27):
If George is getting in this race, give him a
chance and let him just lay out you know where
he ended up on red Flag and why. But all
I can tell you is, and you know, bringing a
stack of bibles, put me on a polly and I
would pass both tests. I would have, and for good reason,
one hundred percent confidence in George on two way issues.
Jennifer and Parker, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Welcome, Hey Dan, good to talk to you too. What
do you think I'm curious? You know, this M mobile
audience is really curious to me. And here's why. Now
I'm a committed Republican. I like Barb Kirkmeyer governor. Yeah,
because she has the well, there's the economic prowess that
(09:12):
this state needs to get on its economic feet first
and foremost, you know, the cultural stuff needs to change too,
But economics are going to drive this election in my opinion. Now,
I'm not convinced that a Republican is in a position
to win this election, so therefore we default to Wiser Bennett.
(09:33):
I'm thinking Bennett's the lesser of two evils. But you
put Yemi Mobiladi in there, and I think he's got
appeal to a wide range of voters. Clearly, fifty percent
or more at this point in Colorado of the voting
population are unaffiliated, and they're unaffiliated for a reason, because
(09:53):
they're not happy with either party. I think he might
have appeal. And I think here's what I'm going to
make this case for a report publicans is it might
be a good idea because this steamship is going so
far down the DEM road, it's going to take a
gradual turning back before we're going to get a common
sense Colorado. Again. It's not going to happen with a
(10:16):
snap of a finger.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Jennifer, are you saying then that if jam mobilate, first
of all, would it matter to you whether he's pro life.
If he's not pro life, I could not support him
for whatever. That's sort of.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
The problem with him coming out as pro life. Dan
and you know this, and we could probably have a
long conversation with Jennifer.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Can you do me a favorite, because in Colorado, I
think we're going to disagree on this, and I want
you to have all the airtime you need because this
is a great discussion to have. Can you stay through
a break?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, great, Great, We'll come back with Jennifer on the
other side, because we disagree on this and it's good
to have the conversation. I think where Jennifer is going
is that, hey, if jam Mobilaate is pro life, he's
not going to win as an independent. We'll see if
that's what Jennifer says. And I would disagree completely on
that and we can lay out our reasons. But I
also think Jennifer suggesting that as a Republican she might
(11:08):
support Mmobolatti as an independent because it would be the
best chance to defeat the Democrat. What do you think
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I met yesterday with some of the highest ranking members
of the delegation that we'll be meeting with President Zelenski
delegation from Ukraine, and they are very, very hopeful that
President Trump will authorize those Tomahawk missiles, which are so
important to going after the places and production.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, what do you think should the US give Ukraine
Tomawk missiles to use? Now? Of course, the big news
sense that clip is that President says he and Putin
are going to meet in Budapest within the next couple
of weeks, following an advanced meeting Rubio and high ranking Russians. Now,
you would think that normally this would signal that a
(12:06):
deal is in the works, at least a cease fire deal.
And obviously if Trump's able to achieve this on top
of everything else, You'll have to go beyond the term
historically great president to describe what we're experiencing together right now. Now,
the reasons behind this upcoming some and I've got my thoughts,
but I want to get to him after we're finished
(12:26):
speaking with Jennifer. I love Jennifer's call. Jennifer's calling from
Partnership Parkner. She's calling about the governor's race. And before
the break she was saying, Hey, she's a Republican, supports
Barbara Kirkmeyer. But the news that Jemmy Mobilate is probably
getting in the governor's race as an independent candidate the
current mayor of Colorado Springs raises interesting possibilities. Jennifer take
(12:47):
it from there. And I know the issue on the
table when we went to break was the life issue.
And my position is I simply can't vote for a
candidate who's pro abortion. I don't know where Yemmy's at
on that. He's going to join me Tuesday at four
thirty six, I'll ask him. And Jennifer was about to say, no, Dan,
you got it wrong. So please, Jennifer tell everybody how
wrong I am.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I don't know that you have it completely wrong. I
hate to phrase things. I hate to be so black
and white about that. And here's why. Twenty twenty two, Dan,
let's go to that election. One of the best candidates
to run as a Republican statewide was John Kellner. John
Kellner was a I mean, I think out of all
(13:29):
the candidates that ran statewide, he finished the best. Yes,
but here's what phil Wiser did, and this is what
Democrats do. They take that abortion issue and they tag
it on that candidate. And so what pil Wiser did
to John Kellner was he said, if you elect this man,
he is going he's going to threaten your abortion rights
(13:51):
because he's pro life. That was not true. I went
to countless debates and John Kellner said, I personally am
pro life, However, the state law is such that it
cannot be challenged, and therefore I have to uphold the law.
And he still got that label of being someone who
(14:11):
was going to shut down women's rights. That's what the
left does day, right.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But Jennifer, thank you for raising twenty two. Isn't that
the twenty two election the one that confirms my belief
because yeah, John Kellner, who's my current law partner, is
managing partner of our firm. I was a phenomenal candidate,
one of the best candidate we've had in many, many years.
And as Jennifer says, he was the top vote getter
for the GOP and he was true to his pro
(14:38):
life position on the other hand, we had another tremendously
talented candidate, and Joe O'Day, who was our Republican candidate
for Senate. He was pro abortion, and Joe Oday got smoked.
John Kellner did better than Joe Oday. So doesn't that
prove my point that if our Republican candidates abandoned the
(15:00):
unborn and now say their pro abortion, they're first going
to be wrong? And what's the sense in winning if
you're just going to be wrong? But second, it's just
going to get you beat.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
I think you have evidence that proves that it's not
beyond a reasonable doubt. How about that?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, wait, wait a second, Jennifer, We and a lot
of really good smart people think as you do, that
if the GOP just abandons the life issue, the GOP
will do better in Colorado. But it wouldn't. And because
the math issue is you're going to have so many
GOP voters and unaffiliated to vote for the GOP and
the life issue who would abandon the GOP if it
(15:44):
abandoned life? And Joe Oday proves that. Do you agree
with me, Jennifer? He was a tremendous candidate in every
other way. Joe O'Day was he was good.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I would say he was a good candidate. I think
there could have been a better candidate. I think we
need a little more spark, a little more positive. I
think the candidate that finally turns it for Republicans is
going to be the one that goes out and provides inspiration,
not you know, inspiring of what Colorado could be, what
the economy could be. I mean, of course we're going
(16:18):
to have to point fingers at the left, but I
think people are tired with both sides and they want
to be inspired.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
And Jennifer, I think that's why you called originally. Are
you saying that as a Republican you may support you
Mobilat as an independent candidate because you think he'd have
a better chance to beat the Democrat than the Republican would.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm not sure. It depends on what he runs, on
what he talks about. It depends on how the Republican
candidates are doing. I hate to say, you know, I'm
a fairweather voter, but if they're strong polling that shows
that Mobilatti could beat a Democrat, might support him just
to get it over because in the long run, I
(17:00):
think you have a third party candidate it's going to
favor the Democrat running. But I think the Democrat is
favored anyway, Sister, Sister, Sister, Jennifer time until.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Year whoa, And I got to tell you, I think
the math is very obvious. If m. A. Mobilari runs
as an independent, he's going to take far more, I think,
away from the Democrat than the Republican because assuming Michael
Bennett's the dem nominee, there is zero excitement for Michael Bennett.
And he's going to have a lot of money and
this and that, but zero excitement. And so I see
(17:32):
an awful lot of Dems who are going to look
at this articulate, intelligent, interesting guy mayor of Colorado Springs
who happens to be African American, and they're going to
say that excites me more than Michael Bennett. I think
he's much more likely to peel off Democrats and maybe
(17:53):
that opens.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The door for the any of the Republicans.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but Deve Jennifer Green, is he more excited? Is
more excited?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Thank you? Dan?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Do you think that Jemmy Mobilatti is more exciting than
any of the Republicans so far? That's that would be key.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What a great question. Let me pick that up after
this break, Jennifer. And you know, we hear a lot
of people are excited about Victor Marx. I'm anxious to
talk to him. It'd be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. Glad you're
here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Buddy called me during the break and he said, name,
you're telling people you've been practicing law forty one years.
He said, I graduated with you. It's forty two. How
do you miss a whole year?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
A whole year?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
So it has been forty two years. Sworn in on Halloween.
Very appropriate coming up three oh three seven one three
eight two five five the number text d A N
five seven seven three nine. I am excited now. This
last call from Jennifer. Great caller from Parker and she's
supporting Barb Kirkmeyer. And you know she helps Republicans win,
(18:57):
does Jennifer? And she's saying, wait a second, if Yemmy Mobili,
the mayor of Colorado Springs, is really getting in this
race as an independent, is he the better chance to
beat the Democrat than the Republican candidate? Yeah, so we're
we're really going to get into that. We'll spend a
lot of time on it tomorrow. Now, she wasn't endorsing
(19:18):
I'm saying she was going to support him. She was
just raising that question. She doesn't know enough about him
yet to know whether she would support him, and we're
going to learn more Tuesday at four thirty six, Right Ryan,
when Mobilatti will join us for two segments. We've had
him on before and enjoyed our conversations, but they reached
out to us this time, and that tells me he's running.
(19:41):
So one of my very first questions, if not the first,
is going to be, you know, are you pro life?
And well, a better question, will you be a pro
life governor in terms of policy? You know, because you
get all these knuckleheads who say, oh, yeah, I'm pro life,
but I'm not going to be that way in off Yeah,
then what good are you? Right? So that's like somebody's
(20:03):
saying I'm against slavery, but in office, yeah, chain them up,
do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean that kind of garbage,
But I want to find out would he be a
pro life governor? Now, he let plenty of Republican voters
who will say, I don't care I don't care if
he is or not. I want to defeat the Democrats
because of the economic stuff. I want to defeat the
(20:24):
Democrats for the hundred other reasons we should all want
to defeat the Democrats. But I would certainly like to know.
And this we do know. And I was not a
math major, but I can count pretty well. We do
know that if the GOP was to abandon its pro
life position, the GOP would be aborted. GOP would die
(20:45):
because it would It wouldn't lose everybody, but it would
lose so many voters that it would have no chance
to win anymore. And that's the way it should be, right,
What is the point of winning if you're going to
do the wrong thing with the power just to say
I want yeah, Oh great, so you one now and
you're the person who can support slavery because you gave
(21:06):
in all the people who want slavery. No. No, The
only reason to want to win is to do the
right thing. And if to win you have to do
the wrong thing, then what's the point of winning? Three
oh three seven three eight two five five text d
an five seven seven three nine. But winning is very
very cool when you actually stand up to wrong. The
(21:31):
odds are against you, the winds in your face, the
mountain is tall, and you say, I'm on the right
side of this. I'm on the right side of history.
I'm on the right side of morality. I'm on the
right side of medicine. I'm on the right side of everything.
And the odds are against me. But I'm going to win,
and then you win. That's really cool. Donald Trump almost
want the exact opposite direction. During most of his adult life,
(21:52):
I understood him to be probably pro choice, but then
you had doubts about him. Twenty sixteen, it was kind
of unknown, and he became perhaps the best strongest pro
life president we've ever had. And then he holds a
press conference today.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Dan, I'm not sure how you feel about this issue,
but he's extremely supportive of IVF and of enabling that
procedure for young companies.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And President Trump may still be pro choice, but he's
still the most pro life president, the best pro life
president we've had in our lifetime. He has saved countless
lives through his pro life policy positions. But at heart, Ryan,
if you had to bet, if you had to bet
your Bugatti on whether he is personally pro choice or not.
(22:36):
Would what would you.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Bet Donald Trump at this point? Yeah, I think he's
a changed, fundamentally changed man. I think Butler Pennsylvania changed
him in a big, big way and made him much
more reflective and religious. I think he's personally very pro
pro life right now.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Interesting he might be. He might be if somebody said, Okay, Dan,
really you got to bet your life, your life, and
we're going to find out right now. It's in this
envelope right here, if he is pro life or pro
choice personally, and we're going to open this envelope. So
two minutes from now, you're going to be alive or dead.
Based on this answer, I would say that's pretty heavy,
(23:15):
But I would also say pro choice. My guess is
that at heart he is pro choice. But from a
policy standpoint, I think he's a man of integrity. He
ran on these promises to actually have Supreme Court justices
who will interpret the law rather than make it, and
(23:37):
he ran on these promises to adopt these pro life
positions and he delivered on him. So he has been
the most pro life president of our lifetime, no question
about it. But at heart is he pro life? For
pro choice? I would have to say he's probably still
pro choice, and I don't care in this sense. What
(23:58):
I care about is what somebody does it. They're so
I have no use for these people say, oh, I'm
pro life, but in office, No, I'm going to leave
the choice on slavery to you, or I'm going to
leave the choice on abortion to you. I have no
use for those people. I'd rather have a Donald Trump
or somebody else who's personally pro choice, but it's going
to be pro life in office from a policy standpoint.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Every time I've seen President Trump speak on this issue
of late in particular, maybe it's his wisdom in his
old age. Maybe it's having grandchildren of his own. He
loves babies. I love them. They're great. You know, he's
just talking in a very warm, engaging tone.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Of there's only one guy, an X who does a
better Trump than you do.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That's Sean Ferish.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And you know, Ryan, it is quite possible, quite quite
quite possible. You're right that that Butler changed him. I mean,
just I mean, come on, he believes, as I believe
in many others believe that God saved him in that field.
And yeah, maybe that if he was pro choice before
that and maybe that changed him. We know as a
(25:01):
fact there are so many people who are pro abortion
because you can't really call it pro choice. The baby
doesn't have a choice, right, they're pro abortion, and then
they changed when they had their first child. So it's
probably ninety nine to one or ninety nine thousand to
(25:21):
one the number of people who change their position on abortion,
who change from being pro abortion to pro life versus
those who go from pro life to pro abortion. For
every one person who goes from pro life to pro abortion,
I think you probably have a million people who go
(25:42):
from pro abortion to pro life for obvious reasons. You
just follow the facts, you follow the medicine, you follow
the truth. Yeah, so we may never know. On President Trump.
All I know is from a policy standpoint, which is
what matters, because that's what either saves or kills lives.
From a policy standpoint, he has been the greatest pro
life president of my lifetime by a lot, not an inch,
(26:07):
but a mile, And I literally thank God for that
and for the Trump voters who made it happen, of
which I was one, a meaningless one, but still mattered
to me. Three h three seven one three eight two
five five The number text d A N five seven
seven three nine. Many texts coming in that I do
not understand at all. Ryan, what is this omg Ace Freely?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, I told you that during the breakdown. That's why
I'm playing the Kiss music in Ace Freeley's music. He
passed away at the age of seventy four, one of
the foundational members of Kiss.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh the Kiss of Death. Oh yeah, sorry to sad
rest his soul. It's funny. They were radical in their lifetime, right,
I mean he kiss the whole thing, and now it.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Would be it's pretty tame to be. Okay, that's my
first The Halloween costume was a Gene Simmons mass and
I was that for Halloween at age four. A lot
of nineteen seventy eight memories.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Right noweteen seventy eight, Yeah, because John Paul the.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Great, right, we talked about that to start the show
comes full circle.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, today, that's the anniversary today, Dan, single issue voter
question mark three question marks A yeah, just like the
abolitionist right, just like the people who opposed slavery, they
were single issue voters. Do you think people would be
critical of them today? Saying oh, blanky blank, single issue
(27:33):
voters opposing slavery. Now they'd say, hey, those most people
got it right, they had it figured out.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Dan Trump carried thirty percent pro abortion voters in Missouri, Nevada, Arizona.
According to NPR, that is no surprise at all, and
it's one of a million different reasons, starting with like
right and wrong, go thro out a Republican party should
never abandon its pro life position because first you are
a gonna, well, you're doing the right thing, and that's
what matters. But electorally, you're still going to get a
(28:05):
lot of votes from people who would prefer that the
laws be pro choice, but they have other priorities and
the Republicans is going to better fulfill those priorities. So
don't listen to those who say we should abandon what's
right just to try to win. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Can agree? God rest the show. That's just not very
good music.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
It's kissing.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Cultural happened. Yeah, but I mean truly, if you didn't
know that, and you blindfolded yourself and you were putting
a gym, you would think, Okay, that's some high school
band at a high school dance, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You What about Sticks back when you encountered them, man
out of the gate, they were so good even back then.
They're young, very old.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was the same thing. Like
I could close my eyes right now, I keep my
eyes open and I can picture them like it happened
two minutes ago doing Lady in our high school gym.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
So you were impressed by them.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But they were just as well. It was just it
was better music than what you just played. All right,
it really would. Don't you think?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So Sticks greater than Kiss.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In your Oh not even close?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what about his performance? Because it was really lesatrical
to costumes.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If Kiss hadn't done the makeup, that's what I mean,
nobody'd be talking about them, right. It's like it's like
under arm or the product. If they had called that
sports underwear, none of us ever would have bought it.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Good point, Yeah, good comparison, pretty solid metaphor.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Actually, thank you, my friend. Did you see that video
I just sent you me draining that what free throw
at ball arena?
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's recent if you like that form? Wow, I look
at step on the line.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
My father's son. My father was a great what's that?
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Is this a reverse video? Orre you left handed?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm left handed?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Youre's sandbagger. I didn't know you were.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Like, I'm kind of ambidextrous.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
But I shoot I basketball left handed, right.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I throw left of it left right, right, eat right,
I eat right?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah you do?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
I never knew that about you being a south paul.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Did you fight left handed? Boxing? No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Right handed?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I see you're throwing me off? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And my opponents? Where'd that come from? Too late? All right?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, So tell me how you like that form?
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So very out?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, my dad was a great college basketball player.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Is a referee too, right?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, really good referee? Three oh three seven three eight
two five five The number text d a N five
seven seven three nine probably helps to be a six three,
two hundred and thirty pound rip Chicago police officer when
you're roughing high school.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Games, don't get a lot of guff that way.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It helps to know basketball. But you know, he he was,
he was such a good guy, this big, strong, tough guy,
but such a good guy. He'd always you know, never
fired his gun, got out of work. The toughest Neighborhood's
got out a lot of tough situations just with his
smarts and his imposing presence, but never fired his gun.
Thirty years Chicago p d on the on the streets.
(31:11):
But like when he'd ref these games and this, you know,
there would be some very tense jam gyms and everything else,
sometimes different races, and he just always everybody was men,
addressed everybody as men. It could be some freshmen on
the court and dressed him as men, and he was
just able to keep things calm. But all right, let's
go back to the phone lines. We'll take some text
(31:33):
as well. If you just joined us. Thanks, a lot
of really important stuff going on today. To me, topping
it all is, you know the guy who used to
sit right there, two feet away indicted today. Who would
have seen that coming? Yeah, John Bolton on Bolton, John Bolton,
regular guest on the show, indicted. I guess we all
saw it coming. But we'll find out together whether he's
(31:54):
convicted or not. I don't see John Bolton doing a
plea deal, so we will find that out together. But
I think topping the charts today by far is the
announcement that Trump and Putin are going to have a summit,
and they say a couple of weeks in Budapest after
some advance work is done by Secretary of State Rubio
and high ranking Russians. So normally, Ryan, wouldn't you think
(32:18):
that this is not being announced unless they have a
deal or they believe they're going to have a deal,
whether it's a ceasefire deal or whether it's an actual
ceasefire pending a proposed well Trump deal.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Trump's on a heater. He's ended eight oars in eight months,
so just brought peace to the Middle East, So why
not stop the war in your Ukraine as well?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, but if it's really happening, and you have to
believe it is, or this would not be right after
the disappointment up in Alaska, which it may turn out
was just important groundwork. But if it's really happening, why now?
And my theory on that is, listen, Putin is evil, right,
It's no different than Satan himself coming up, been thrown
(33:00):
on an expensive suit and tie and sitting in that
office in Moscow. He's just raw evil incarnate. So why
if they're doing a deal, any kind of deal that
would be reasonable and I put reasonable quotes because Putin
is the devil. He raped and pillaged Ukraine. He had
no right to be in there. He shouldn't get one
(33:20):
inch of territory, but he will. And the reason he
will is not Trump's fault. It's Europe's fault because Europe
had to make a decision and decided not to stand
up to Putin. Europe decided to sacrifice Ukraine if it
had to. So that's why Putin is going to get
some territory when he shouldn't get an inch. But that
kind of deal is going to be better than than
(33:41):
allowing the mass carnage to continue, because Putin has made
it clear he will kill as many Russians and Ukrainians,
says he has to to continue this war. So why
Ryan in my theory is this, if it's really happening,
it's because Trump has shown a new way. He's shown
a new way in the Mid East, and I believe
he's shown a new way to Russia, which is, hey,
(34:04):
you can be very popular successful leaders through peace and prosperity.
And so Trump is if you look what's happening now
in God's in the Mid East. Trump first goes in
and he does these financial deals with these critical rulers
in the Mid East, not all of them, but most,
and he talked about it. President Trump did again today,
(34:26):
you know, in the two hour Collie Edward putin all
the talk about prosperity for Russia, different trade opportunities, etc.
And so I think this is this new path that
Trump is carving out. Others have talked about it in
theory before, but he's making it work in ways nobody's
seen before. So let's say prayer it works here too. Ran,
great job. Please join us tomorrow on The Dan Caplo Show.
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