Callers flood the lines with differing takes on the Trump administration announcement that six states (Florida, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas, Louisiana, Colorado) will be joining others in banning the use of SNAP benefits to purchase unhealthy food items like sugary drinks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
And the American Way is freedom right.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So now you have a governor of Colorado who claims
bizarrely to be all about freedom.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You have freedom to do what he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And now he says to poor people, no cake for you.
Poor people down Colorado, they can't buy a Coca Cola
on food stamps, so that their kid, their kid wants
a coke, like every little kid kind of a write
a passage, right, they want a Coca Cola. No, Jared
Paula says no. Now, Jared Poulos will put push dope
on your kid all day long, right up to an
including putting on Colorado license plates. He knows your kid's
(00:45):
going to look at you know, all these messages glorifying dope.
But no, your kid wants a Coca Cola. Uh, Jared
Poula says, no, poor person, you can't have that. Three
oh three seOne, three eight two five five The number Unfortunately,
RFK Junior, who I like in lots of other ways,
agrees with Polus on this. In the administration is going
(01:06):
down that road as well, so we're taking lots of
calls on that before we get to that. I just
have to be on the record on this. How big
is too big for lips? I think we passed that
a long long time ago. I mean, Ryan, are you
watching the monitor right now. I won't name any names
because I really like this person, but one of our
favorite national hosts, Hey, did you notice anything different about
(01:30):
her lips? All I'm saying is, and I'm sure everybody listening,
and yeah, just so many people now, predominantly women, are
just getting their lips inflated like tires, right, and it
just doesn't work. Listen, I'm a lottery I'm the luckiest
guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
My wife and she was known for it this, so
we've been married thirty one years. Back in the days,
they weren't taking you down to the gas station and
just you know, she just had these naturally huge lips,
very attractive feature. But these days it's they're just pumping
people through anything they can find. All right, let's get
back to the phone. Line, sir, in fuego, We'll go
(02:08):
to Boulder. You're on the dan Kapla show. Kevin welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, I got a statement, and you can't question.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
The town hall.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We love that form.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The government's job is to see to it that we
are not hurt or killed by food ingredients by making
the food makers prove that the ingredients are safe before
the food is put on the market. Test question. Can
you hear me?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah? I just disagree with your premise, But go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Who was the first FDA case against and why?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The answer to all those questions is Woodrow.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wilson wrong, ng wrong? Okay, Ken, I guess address Socrates
is dead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Just hit me between the ISIDs.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Their first case was against Coca Cola, and uh it
was because they were transporting what across state lines?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Was it like real coke, real cocaine?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It was sugar.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And that's that's why.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Every state has its own Coca Cola bottling plants.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Hey man, fascinating Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I understand there's a lot of dangerous stuff and food,
and I love a lot of stuff RFK Junior is
doing to try to clean up America's food supply. I'm
all behind that. All I'm saying though, is way too
slippery of slope when the government's saying you can you
can't buy a coke for your kid, but you can
buy all this other stuff. That's what worries me here,
ste and just the dignity of the pool work Steven Centennial,
(04:01):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Hey Dan, I disagree with you. I guess you normally
agree with you, but in.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
This case.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I don't you Just as as just a personal experience,
my daughter did a maracorps for about eighteen months. They
don't pay enough to sustain you, so they encourage you
to get on Snap or whatever it is. It was
Snap I think where she was, and it is bizarre
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she could buy food, but she couldn't buy dish detergent
or a sponge to clean her dishes, right, I mean
not super logical, but I guess I believe if if
the government is supporting somebody to sustain themselves with food,
(04:59):
I frankly believe it should be very stringent on what
you can buy.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's not.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
You know, the dignity issue is, you know, why aren't
you able to sustain yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (05:13):
We don't in the same token on a medical side.
We have Medicare Medicaid, but you don't get to your comment.
You don't get to get botox while you're on Medicare
or Medicaid. I should say, right, we limit that to
essential things, and I think if if, if we're paying
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for somebody to eat, I think it ought to be
very restrictive on limited categories of food. And if you
don't like it, then figure out how to get a
job and buy your own code, by your own sweeps.
That's that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, I appreciate that, and I understand proudly ninety nine
percent of the folks in this conversation agree with you.
But what I would say is, of course there are lines,
and there should be lines, but where do you draw
those lines? And the reason I have a real problem
with drawing this line at coke, at sugary drinks is well,
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you got all this other stuff that you can still
use the food stamps for that have a whole lot
of sugar in it or are otherwise dangerous for you.
So that's why to me, I think, Steve, anytime you're
going to infringe on freedom, you have to have a
really compelling justification. It has to be narrowly tailored and
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very clean, defensible lines.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I just don't see that here.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
No, definitely, you know, and I think the freedom issue
is definitely a valid one. The question is, you know,
when you're on a government subsidized scenario, you are you
trading some of those freedoms for practicality? Now, is the
government good at making common sense decisions? I think we
(07:09):
know the answer to that question is absolutely no. So
you know your your point is, yes, very arbitrary that
coke is is not allowed, but you can probably buy
Oreo cookies or Popnarts or or Captain crunch.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, and to your point, a Texter makes the point
Ben Franklin said, if you want to help the poor,
make it difficult for him.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And what I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Here, though, is that that everybody who has these food
stamps qualifies for it. Right now, I know there's abuse
in any human endeavor, but but I'm assuming they qualify
for it. And so that that's what brings me back
to the dignity point. Unless you have a clear, bright,
consistent line, Okay, you can't use it to buy X
because it's it's harmful for you or your kids. That
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then just went about the dignity of people. But where
would you draw that line, Steve? Right, because so much
of our food is arguably bad for us.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Right, maybe it's fruits, vegetables, you know, dairy and and
you know meat.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Hey, listen. Then I think that's the common ground here.
I think if you're gonna have a program where those
lines are drawn in such a completely consistent way, where
it's just those very basics, nobody could argue that. You know,
you can always argue something's bad, right, but yet clear
more consistent lines. Great call, man. I hope we hear
(08:32):
from you often. Do we have time? Yes, we do
to pop down to Pueblo West.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Very popular area. Guy. You're on the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Welcome, Hi Dan.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I'm wondering what restrictions there are in these programs already.
For an example, we're talking about buying a beverage Coca Cola.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yep, Well, can you.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Use food stamps to buy a beer?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I would hope not too. But I don't think he
is like, where do you.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Draw that line?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That line, and I'm glad you raised it. But that
line's easy, right, But yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
But I could see people bringing that point.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, Yeah, that that line's easy but interesting. You know. Uh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna look at that during the break.
I've never claimed to be an expert on food stamps.
I hadn't even thought about him till this issue came
up yesterday. And I appreciate the call, my friend. I'll
have more on that after the break. And then, what
do you think police is up to with this?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Because his position is completely inconsistent with other things he
claims to stand for.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I think I know his play.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, we'll touch on that, but bottom line, because the
Trump administration is into this too, right, they're saying the
same thing. So bottom line, right or wrong for the
government to say, no, poor person, you can't have that coke.
Your kid can't have that coke. You're on the Dan
Caplas Show.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show pod cast.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well you drink some pain and the thesis left Coca.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Seol.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wow, you just joined us, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, we're talking about King Polos now says, unfortunately joined
by the Trump administration that if you're pour in Colorado,
you're in food stamps.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, you can't have that Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So the government now saying that they're going to micro
manage your diet to that point. And listen, I understand
the good arguments on the other side of me. I'm
just saying, in the end, freedom should win. Freedom should
win any close call, certainly, freedom should win. And I
think anybody trying to impinge on freedom should have to
have a very very clear, compelling, consistent, narrowly tailored argument.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And I don't see it here. I just don't see
it here.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Three at three someone three A two five five text
d A N five seven seven three nine not to
mention the slippery slope and the hypocrisy slash dishonesty from Polis.
Who oh, pol is now pretending to care so much
about these poor kids that oh, yeah, now your parents,
you can't have that coke. The kid down the street,
their parents doing better, they can have the coke you can't.
(11:14):
And so he cares so much for kids, right while
he goes out there and he pushes drugs on kids
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Look what he does. What do you think he's doing.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
When Polis decides he's going to have all these license
plates printed that glorify the use of dope of marijuana,
he doesn't think kids are going to see those plates.
He knows exactly what he's doing. He's sending the message
through the state official state imperature right license plates. Yeah,
that glorify dope use. Yeah, but he cares so much
about the kids, right, what's the political play? I think
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we all know what the political play is. You know,
Polis is trying to live this political lie that he's
some kind of moderate now that he's term limited in
the governor's job and he's looking to do something national.
He needs a lane, right, Polis needs some kind of lane,
and he's trying to create this moderately. So he's now
the first blue state governor who has done this. Right,
(12:05):
some red state governors have done it, ironically, he's now
the first blue state governor to do it. Yeah, he's
just trying to carve out a lane. Can anybody show
me anything that would suggest to them that Polis sincerely
cares about the kids. Here, let's go to Roberton Mead
or it's Robert Mead one way or the other. You're
welcome here on the dan Kaplis show how you doing?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Robert good damn, how you doing? And it's Robert from Meade, Colorado, wonderfow.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You're a lucky man. You're a lucky man.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Thanks for taking my call. And I do have a
narrowly focused perspective on this. I wasn't too familiar with
the EBT process until my father moved to Colorado a
couple of years ago. And he's eighty four years old,
also security, so he is he has an EBT card.
But the one thing that has always frustrated.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Me is.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I'm not a fan of polists, but let's start there.
But I want my dad to be able to have
a coke. But I think it could be maybe cap,
the monthly cap on it, you know, for things like
coke and candy and cookies and things like that. The
thing that frustrates me is my dad can't go buy
(13:21):
you know, soap and shampoo and toilet paper with an
EBT card, but you can go buy eight cases of coke. Yeah,
so that's sort of the oh I work I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I get that, I get that frustration, you bet, And
I'm just saying, and I'd extend this to the toilet paper.
If you're going to infringe on a poor person's freedom,
and this assumes that the person qualifies to be on.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The program to begin with.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right, But if you're going to infringe on a poor
person's freedom, you better have a darn good reason, and
it better be consistent across the board, not just some
haphazard knee jerk political spasm from King Polis to try
to get ahead linees Hey.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Robin, but I was going to take the w and go,
but you're welcome to stay.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I've had so few people agree with me, I want
to lock one up here.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You have a great a you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So you know how much there's a trick to this question, Ryan,
you know how much you can make and still get
food stamps in Colorado under certain conditions? What would you
guess the max you can make? I'm going to guess
forty thousand dollars a year. You could make one hundred
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and nine thousand a year. Come on, but big butt,
like a big coke fueled buck.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I like five kids eighth.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Your household size would have to be eight. How much
do you think you can make? I'm on the state
state's website here. How much do you think you can
make and get food stamps for one gross gross income?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But there won't be taxes?
Speaker 10 (15:07):
For one person. I'm gonna go thirty k Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You're right about that. Yeah, you're right about that. How
about a family of four?
Speaker 11 (15:18):
Well somewhere in between what you just said eighty five
sixty one thousand, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So anyway, what do you think should King Polis while
he's doing it? So, do you think he's right to
be telling poor people? No coke for you? And then
I want to get to Kyle Clark's take from KUSA
probably the best argument that I'm wrong here that he
agrees with me. Polis back Robert F. Kenny Junior for help.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh no, I want to start this one at the beginning.
How about right.
Speaker 12 (15:49):
There, Democratic Governor Jared Polis is once again finding common
ground with the Trump administration making sure that poor kids
don't buy soda.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
With food benefits.
Speaker 12 (15:59):
Yes, he is a self proclaimed libertarian and the Republican
administration preaches against government medaling in people's lives. But man,
there is something about a low income kid cracking open
a PEPSI bought with snap that just steams their beans.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Polus backed Robert F.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Kenny Junior for Health Secretary.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
And today Colorado and a bunch of Republican states got
federal go ahead to ban families from using SNAP benefits
to buy soda and sugary beverages. Governor's office says this
is a health issue and that this will force stores
and low income neighborhoods to stock less soda in favor
of better for you drinks. Milk and one percent juice
drinks will be exempt from the ban. Colorado's the only
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Democrat led state that's slapping taxpayer funded SODA's out of
the hands of kids this year, joins today's waiver requests
from Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, and Luisi.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
If you really cared about the kids, he'd support true
school choice so that all these people now could reach
their full economic potential and they wouldn't need food stamps.
That's the thing. Polists in the left are dead set
on keeping people in this cycle of power already fighting
for scraps, because once people start to make sixty thousand
or more, they vote Republican in a majority. And so, yeah,
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if he really cared about the kids, he would show
it in ways that really matter. By the way, what
does the food stamp SNAP program allow you to buy?
What kind of food? For the household. I'm reading right
off the state website today, predictably, breads and cereals. Oh
my lord, cap'n Crunch. That'll kill you in thirty seconds, right, yeah,
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cap'n Crunch. But you can go buy your cap'n Crunch.
How much sugar do you think he's in cap'n Crunch loads?
Holy cow, Holy cow. I will bet you half the
people who went to jail in the sixties and seventies
it was because of cap'n Crunch.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'm serious. We would go off, we would go off.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
To Saint Mary's Star of the Sea every morning, load
it up on cap'n Crunch. No, Jerry would have convicted
any of those nons. Did your mom stop buying cap'n
Crunch for that reason?
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We lived for cal Crunch. She got it for you anyway.
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean they just attributed my behavior
to it. Dropped on my head or something.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But when we come back, I'll keep going through that list.
King Polis wrong to say to poor people, no coke
for you. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast just for
the fun of it, just for the bon of it.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Just while the taste of it diet just the stute.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No poke for you, says King Polish to the poor
people of Colorado. You can no longer buy it on
food stamps because Jared says it's bad for you. All
this other stuff that's bad for you know that that's okay.
But King Jared right, governor Freedom he likes to call himself. Yeah,
you're free to do what Polis wants you to do. Unfortunately,
the Trump administration with him on this. I think it's
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a I think it's a bone the president's throwing to
RFK Junior. And I like a lot of things RFK
Junior is doing. I just don't like this one. And
as we go to our jam lines, I understand I'm
in the minority here, but I just believe this is
a freedom issue and if the government's going to start
get involved in micromanaging diet like that, there better be clear, bright,
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consistent lines.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And I don't see that at all here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think this is a knee jerk, politically spasmatic play
by polists and that's not enough in my mind, doing
fringe on freedom. And I know these people are in
food stamps, but I assume they all qualify. And so
once you open the door to this kind of government
micro management of diet, you think Jared Polis is going
to be happy stopping there or the left I'm not
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choking here, it's peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Maybe I'm choking on peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Or that the left's going to be happy stopping with
poor people and soda.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Really you think that's the end game?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, even if it is, you know, poor people on
the Snap program, I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Todd, and you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Welcome, Hey Dan, how are you living the dream?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Coke free?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do you good?
Speaker 9 (20:08):
You?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And Ryan and Jelly drink Coca cola on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Man, it's been forty years for me.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
I'm a big coke zero guy.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I shouldn't drink it, but I enjoy it.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
And you know, regular Coca cola when it's the real
cane sugar with the Mexican coke style, I love that,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I did have my first beer of the year the
other night.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Good for you. I am proud of didn't stop the one.
Very proud of you.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, the reason you don't drink it is it's not
good for you. And so I wouldn't use the dichotomy
rich and poor kid. I would use the dichotomy informed kid.
And I'm an informed kid.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
My friend. I understand where you're going, but your health.
But here, here's why I would disagree, and that is
I think of and I think this is a common
experience for lots of kids. Our son Joe, right, I mean,
we didn't give our kids is coke or pepsi or
anything like that. But the first time Grandpa was going
to babysit for him, Joe's mission in life, and he
was probably three or four was getting Grandpa to get
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him a pepsi. And one of my late father's great
joys in life was getting Joe's first pepsi. And so, no,
I don't want him sitting there drinking it out of
a bottle from birth. But I just don't see why
a poor kid shouldn't be able to have a coke
just like the next kid.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Oh, the poor kid can save us some money and
have a coke.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, get a paper route at four.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I wouldn't be feeding a four year old.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, I'm joking. I'm joking with you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm sure And I only made that comment because.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I informed and uninformed, and since RFK and bullish Go
I'm not a fan of are bringing this out, people
can ask themselves why not.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well how about this?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm themselves that it's not good for them?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, who gets to decide that though? Right, See, that's
where the slippery slope comes in. You're a great caller.
I hope you all often. But as we go to
the rest of our jam lines and you can get
Todd's right now if you want it. Here, I'm reading
from the list fresh off the website Current today.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Okay, what can you buy with this?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack, crackers and ice cream?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What do you think's next? How much sugar do you
think there is an ice cream? You think Polis stops?
You think the left stops at coke? Since when have
they stopped anywhere? Christine in beautiful Cheyenne, you're on the
dan Kaplis.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
You'll welcome, Thank you. I just think you're making a
big leap from the pork kid with no cokes to
the rich kid down the block with a coke. There
are millions of taxpayers in between the kid on snap
and the rich kid, and those taxpayers are making decisions
every day whether they can afford certain things, and that
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includes pizza and cokes and candy, and they must pay
the IRS. And you talk out a poor person's freedom
and dignity. Yes, every human being deserves to be treated
with dignity, but it's pretty undignified and doesn't speak well
to freedom when you work like a dog all day
and have to send money to the IRS and have
(23:15):
to budget, denying your kids certain things or not being
able to say for college like you'd like to. So
coke is a luxury, just like going out for pizza
or something like that, and many people can't do that,
but they're paying their taxes. Well, I think luxuries are
not shouldn't be on the list.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So where do you draw the line?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Listen, I can relate to I had the greatest parents,
the greatest stuff bringing in all of America. We are
the wealthiest people in America. But I had to save
up for a long time to buy a candy bar
and it made that candy bar taste great. But where
do you draw the line then, when you're infringing on freedom,
Because I'm reading off the Colorado list right now. You
can buy soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream.
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Do you say no ice cream because there's going to
be as much sugar in that ice creams as there
is in the pop.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
There may be, but.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
Right now we're talking about Coca cola and that's a luxury.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right, But what is ice cream?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Luxury?
Speaker 13 (24:13):
Isn't afford luxury?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Growing up?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It is ice cream a luxury? I think it arguably
would be right? So would you take that out of
the food stamp program too?
Speaker 13 (24:24):
And we're talking about cop right now though, In Christine,
ice cream is something that a lot of families. It's special,
it's only for birthday. Yes, I mean people budgets, people
watch their pennies.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I am one hundred percent with you on that. And
what I'm saying, Christine is if you're going to infringe
on freedom as the government, you've got to have I think,
a clear reason for it, and you got to be consistent.
So polists will still let you go out and buy
ice cream? How does that make any sense?
Speaker 13 (24:56):
It doesn't? But then what that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, hey, is Rodney King would say we can all
get along. Hey, thank you, Christine, sure appreciate that great call.
We're getting so many great callers today, and I took
that call from Cheyenne in honor of food. You guys know,
Adline Major Wyoming law grad just finished the bar. Starts
with our law firm tomorrow's Yeah, she's been clerking for us.
(25:22):
Now she'll pass the bar. They don't get results until
early October. Yeah, she starts, so well, yeah, let's go
to Deborah in Lakewood. You're on the dan Kaplas. She'll
welcome Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Dan.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
I think a point that I have not heard anybody
else make is that there is no law preventing them
from buying Coca cola. But they need to use their
own money. And people that are on food stamps or
the SNAP program have a source of income from somewhere
else that they pay their rent, and they buy their gas,
(25:57):
and they do all the other normal things. They go
out for inner, they take their children to McDonald's if
they have the money, and they buy Coca cola there
for their children. So Paula's is not banning Coca cola.
Nobody asks if they have Snap cards before they can
buy a coke anywhere. It's just at a grocery store
with money that the taxpayers are giving them.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, respectfully, I think the challenge with your logic there
is that so often folks need that other money for
other stuff SNAP doesn't pay for, you know, like rent, car,
et cetera. But but I would I would also belie.
Speaker 14 (26:34):
If it's that important to them, then they will find
the money.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But do you see the bigger danger and the bigger
point here, which is this precedent of government telling you
what you can eat and drink and and so.
Speaker 14 (26:49):
The there's a lot of things that they shouldn't be
allowed to buy that are junk food. I mean, I
totally agree with banning a lot of those things. They
shouldn't buy, Oreo cookies, those things are deadly to you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, I'd have a lot easier time with all this
if it was consistent if you had, as I'd mentioned
to an earlier, very intelligent caller like you, if you
if you had a program that just said listen, man,
when it comes to this stuff, we're just talking about
keeping you and the kids alive. And so you know,
you can buy your milk, you can buy your eggs,
you can buy your meat. You can and you narrowed
(27:24):
it to those very limited categories that would at least
have some logical intellectual consistency. I mean, you could argue
that it's in humane in its own ways, but at
least there'd be something consistent there. This is just a
poll list with a spasmatic political play that I don't
(27:46):
I think it's a dangerous precedent.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Hey, great call I have to tell you, Ryan Kelly
Lines Jammed. I think this may be the best group
of callers wired to wire in a show that we've
had in a long time. And we pride ourselves on
our great callers, but a lot of good thinking here.
I just ask people to ponder this though. If if
you support this, then haven't you just opened that door
(28:12):
real wide to government deciding what you can eat and drink.
Now they can't come into your home and say, okay,
you can't eat or drink that, assuming you're paying for
it yourself, but they can stop it from ever getting
to your house. You think it's going to stop here?
You're on the Dan Kapla Show, And.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
Now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 15 (28:35):
Dollars a day on Snap and about ten percent is
going to sugar be drinks and between and if you
add candies to that it's about thirteen to seventeen percent.
And we all believe in free choice. We live in
a democracy. People can make their own choice about what
(28:55):
they're going to buy and what they're not going to buy.
If you want to buy a ugar Arisota, you ought
to be able to do that. A US taxpayer should
not pay for it. The US taxpayers should not be
paying to feed kids foods supporest kids in our country
with foods that are going to give them diabetes, and
(29:18):
then my agency ends up through Medicaid and medicare paying
for those injuries. Oh, we're going to put it into
that and we're doing it step by step, state by state.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, but wait a second.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I share the concern about the health of kids nationwide
and people nationwide, all of us nationwide because of what's
going on in the American food supply. But if you're
now going to say to Americans, Okay, you qualify for
this program, but we the government, are telling you you
can't buy this food versus that food, what I'm saying
is you better have a very compelling, consistent reason. So
(29:55):
I don't doubt RFK Junior sincerity, not one little bit.
But why in the world. Would you be saying no
pop but still allowing ice cream things like that?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So hey, if you want to make a clear, consistent,
you know, ruling here across the board, I could get
behind that, But this piecemeal stuff that seems more like
kind of a political play at the moment. And I
aim that at Polis. I think RFK Junior is one
hundred percent Sincere. I think he deeply, deeply cares about
(30:27):
the children and people of America and how our food
supply is hurting us. I think he's a one hundred
percent sincere guy. I think Polis is very close to
the opposite end of that spectrum. All right, he back
to the phone lines which are in Fuego. How about
Brian and Vada. You're on the Dan Kapla, she'll welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Hey Dan, we got the most child obesity and then
he got diabetes. And this is Freedom's not free? Is
the problem. See, these people can't ask for something and
then expect something. So what I would do is make
a program where okay, you get so much out on
(31:08):
the ground, beep, make it specific, because let's a you
have generations of people who've been living on this dependent
people and that's why you have a lot of Democratic
voters and make them dependent, you know, to get the
pre internet and them all this garbage for free. So
do their kids about fat they get up, they want
to get on Medicaid because they got diabetes at twenty
(31:30):
years old. There's no way they can hold the tactory,
doubt nothing if we would focus on energy of maybe
the pre schooling.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Brian, I am so sorry because we love your calls.
There's something wrong with your phone line now, but I
think we got the gist of your point.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And listen.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I've said repeatedly throughout this showing others that the left,
the Democratic Party Polish is the worst. They just want
to make all that he's not the worst of but
he's one of the worst. They just want to make
all these people depending on government right for the reasons
Brian says. And worst of all, they want to rob
them of their prosperity, their opportunity, equal opportunity. That's why
they oppose school choice. They want them fighting for scraps
(32:08):
because if you're more than sixty thousand dollars, chances are
your voting Republican. I understand all that. I'm just saying
that that to pick out pop within a program like this,
I think is so arbitrary and inconsistent. I am good
with you want to say, in a food stamp program,
we're just limiting it to the very basic, most highly
nutritious stuff that somebody needs to stay alive.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You know, I get that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But to just pick out pop when you're still paying
for all this other stuff, to me, no, you're infringing
on freedom. You better be compelling and consistent. And the
other thing is, do you really think polists and the
rest of the left want to stop with pop for
poor people? You think they're going to stop there? Drew
and Denver, welcome to the show. And I don't drink
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Welcome Drew. I'm fighting for others, good man.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'll tell you. What Holst is doing is just crazy.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
But I had a coke and a smile, you know
this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Okay, and you and the president.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And what he's doing.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
I've been an investor into coke for twenty five years.
Most of my retirement money is in coke. I'm selling
it tomorrow now.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So that's a you're telling me you've drank it or
you bought the stock.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
No, I bought the stock.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, because you're in Buffett really likes that stock or
he did know.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
But I'm gonna sell the stock now tomorrow to this
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I'll call my stockbroker.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
I won't mention their name, but I will. I'll sell
it and reinvest in something else.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Okay, Well that's a bold move there, Drew, and hey,
apologies to everybody you didn't get through Texters as well.
I'm sure we'll follow up on this some more tomorrow
because we have some outstanding text and this issue isn't
going away because the Left ain't stopping here, and I
don't like the Trump administration involvment in that. Here's the difference, though, Ryan,
I don't think the Trump administration has any designs on
(34:18):
saying you, as an individual, will not be able to
use your own money to buy pop. I think the
left is all about that end right. They brought it
up before.
Speaker 11 (34:27):
Well, the interesting thing about today's topic is, Dan, I
don't know that we've ever had one that was so
evenly divided in the responses, both by phone and text
as our callers here, it's really an even split.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it's one of those issues where you can make
really intelligent arguments on either side right, and to me
it just comes down to if something's going to infringe
on freedom, got to hire a burden there in my view.
But yeah, some really great arguments on the other side,
So thank you everybody for that, I do think, and
we pride ourselves on our great callers. Probably the best
(34:58):
wire to wire group of callers that we've had on
any topic in a very very.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Long time, maybe ever. Thank you Ryan, Thank you Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Please join us tomorrow on The Dan Kepler Show.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
And the American Way is freedom right.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So now you have a governor of Colorado who claims
bizarrely to be all about freedom.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You have freedom to do what he wants to do.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And now he says to poor people, no cake for you.
Poor people down Colorado, they can't buy a Coca Cola
on food stamps, so that their kid, their kid wants
a coke, like every little kid kind of a write
a passage, right, they want a Coca Cola. No, Jared
Paula says no. Now, Jared Poulos will put push dope
on your kid all day long, right up to an
including putting on Colorado license plates. He knows your kid's
(00:45):
going to look at you know, all these messages glorifying dope.
But no, your kid wants a Coca Cola. Uh, Jared
Poula says, no, poor person, you can't have that. Three
oh three seOne, three eight two five five The number Unfortunately,
RFK Junior, who I like in lots of other ways,
agrees with Polus on this. In the administration is going
(01:06):
down that road as well, so we're taking lots of
calls on that before we get to that. I just
have to be on the record on this. How big
is too big for lips? I think we passed that
a long long time ago. I mean, Ryan, are you
watching the monitor right now. I won't name any names
because I really like this person, but one of our
favorite national hosts, Hey, did you notice anything different about
(01:30):
her lips? All I'm saying is, and I'm sure everybody listening,
and yeah, just so many people now, predominantly women, are
just getting their lips inflated like tires, right, and it
just doesn't work. Listen, I'm a lottery I'm the luckiest
guy in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
My wife and she was known for it this, so
we've been married thirty one years. Back in the days,
they weren't taking you down to the gas station and
just you know, she just had these naturally huge lips,
very attractive feature. But these days it's they're just pumping
people through anything they can find. All right, let's get
back to the phone. Line, sir, in fuego, We'll go
(02:08):
to Boulder. You're on the dan Kapla show. Kevin welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, I got a statement, and you can't question.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
The town hall.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We love that form.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The government's job is to see to it that we
are not hurt or killed by food ingredients by making
the food makers prove that the ingredients are safe before
the food is put on the market. Test question. Can
you hear me?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah? I just disagree with your premise, But go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Who was the first FDA case against and why?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The answer to all those questions is Woodrow.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wilson wrong, ng wrong? Okay, Ken, I guess address Socrates
is dead.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Just hit me between the ISIDs.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Their first case was against Coca Cola, and uh it
was because they were transporting what across state lines?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Was it like real coke, real cocaine?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It was sugar.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And that's that's why.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Every state has its own Coca Cola bottling plants.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Hey man, fascinating Listen.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I understand there's a lot of dangerous stuff and food,
and I love a lot of stuff RFK Junior is
doing to try to clean up America's food supply. I'm
all behind that. All I'm saying though, is way too
slippery of slope when the government's saying you can you
can't buy a coke for your kid, but you can
buy all this other stuff. That's what worries me here,
ste and just the dignity of the pool work Steven Centennial,
(04:01):
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Hey Dan, I disagree with you. I guess you normally
agree with you, but in.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
This case.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I don't you Just as as just a personal experience,
my daughter did a maracorps for about eighteen months. They
don't pay enough to sustain you, so they encourage you
to get on Snap or whatever it is. It was
Snap I think where she was, and it is bizarre
(04:37):
she could buy food, but she couldn't buy dish detergent
or a sponge to clean her dishes, right, I mean
not super logical, but I guess I believe if if
the government is supporting somebody to sustain themselves with food,
(04:59):
I frankly believe it should be very stringent on what
you can buy.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's not.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
You know, the dignity issue is, you know, why aren't
you able to sustain yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (05:13):
We don't in the same token on a medical side.
We have Medicare Medicaid, but you don't get to your comment.
You don't get to get botox while you're on Medicare
or Medicaid. I should say, right, we limit that to
essential things, and I think if if, if we're paying
(05:36):
for somebody to eat, I think it ought to be
very restrictive on limited categories of food. And if you
don't like it, then figure out how to get a
job and buy your own code, by your own sweeps.
That's that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
No, I appreciate that, and I understand proudly ninety nine
percent of the folks in this conversation agree with you.
But what I would say is, of course there are lines,
and there should be lines, but where do you draw
those lines? And the reason I have a real problem
with drawing this line at coke, at sugary drinks is well,
(06:20):
you got all this other stuff that you can still
use the food stamps for that have a whole lot
of sugar in it or are otherwise dangerous for you.
So that's why to me, I think, Steve, anytime you're
going to infringe on freedom, you have to have a
really compelling justification. It has to be narrowly tailored and
(06:41):
very clean, defensible lines.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I just don't see that here.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
No, definitely, you know, and I think the freedom issue
is definitely a valid one. The question is, you know,
when you're on a government subsidized scenario, you are you
trading some of those freedoms for practicality? Now, is the
government good at making common sense decisions? I think we
(07:09):
know the answer to that question is absolutely no. So
you know your your point is, yes, very arbitrary that
coke is is not allowed, but you can probably buy
Oreo cookies or Popnarts or or Captain crunch.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, and to your point, a Texter makes the point
Ben Franklin said, if you want to help the poor,
make it difficult for him.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And what I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Here, though, is that that everybody who has these food
stamps qualifies for it. Right now, I know there's abuse
in any human endeavor, but but I'm assuming they qualify
for it. And so that that's what brings me back
to the dignity point. Unless you have a clear, bright,
consistent line, Okay, you can't use it to buy X
because it's it's harmful for you or your kids. That
(07:55):
then just went about the dignity of people. But where
would you draw that line, Steve? Right, because so much
of our food is arguably bad for us.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Right, maybe it's fruits, vegetables, you know, dairy and and
you know meat.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Hey, listen. Then I think that's the common ground here.
I think if you're gonna have a program where those
lines are drawn in such a completely consistent way, where
it's just those very basics, nobody could argue that. You know,
you can always argue something's bad, right, but yet clear
more consistent lines. Great call, man. I hope we hear
(08:32):
from you often. Do we have time? Yes, we do
to pop down to Pueblo West.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Very popular area. Guy. You're on the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Welcome, Hi Dan.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I'm wondering what restrictions there are in these programs already.
For an example, we're talking about buying a beverage Coca Cola.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yep, Well, can you.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Use food stamps to buy a beer?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I would hope not too. But I don't think he
is like, where do you.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Draw that line?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That line, and I'm glad you raised it. But that
line's easy, right, But yeah.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
But I could see people bringing that point.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, Yeah, that that line's easy but interesting. You know. Uh,
I'm gonna I'm gonna look at that during the break.
I've never claimed to be an expert on food stamps.
I hadn't even thought about him till this issue came
up yesterday. And I appreciate the call, my friend. I'll
have more on that after the break. And then, what
do you think police is up to with this?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Because his position is completely inconsistent with other things he
claims to stand for.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I think I know his play.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, we'll touch on that, but bottom line, because the
Trump administration is into this too, right, they're saying the
same thing. So bottom line, right or wrong for the
government to say, no, poor person, you can't have that coke.
Your kid can't have that coke. You're on the Dan
Caplas Show.
Speaker 10 (09:57):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show pod cast.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well you drink some pain and the thesis left Coca.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Seol.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Wow, you just joined us, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, we're talking about King Polos now says, unfortunately joined
by the Trump administration that if you're pour in Colorado,
you're in food stamps.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, you can't have that Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
So the government now saying that they're going to micro
manage your diet to that point. And listen, I understand
the good arguments on the other side of me. I'm
just saying, in the end, freedom should win. Freedom should
win any close call, certainly, freedom should win. And I
think anybody trying to impinge on freedom should have to
have a very very clear, compelling, consistent, narrowly tailored argument.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And I don't see it here. I just don't see
it here.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Three at three someone three A two five five text
d A N five seven seven three nine not to
mention the slippery slope and the hypocrisy slash dishonesty from Polis.
Who oh, pol is now pretending to care so much
about these poor kids that oh, yeah, now your parents,
you can't have that coke. The kid down the street,
their parents doing better, they can have the coke you can't.
(11:14):
And so he cares so much for kids, right while
he goes out there and he pushes drugs on kids
in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Look what he does. What do you think he's doing.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
When Polis decides he's going to have all these license
plates printed that glorify the use of dope of marijuana,
he doesn't think kids are going to see those plates.
He knows exactly what he's doing. He's sending the message
through the state official state imperature right license plates. Yeah,
that glorify dope use. Yeah, but he cares so much
about the kids, right, what's the political play? I think
(11:43):
we all know what the political play is. You know,
Polis is trying to live this political lie that he's
some kind of moderate now that he's term limited in
the governor's job and he's looking to do something national.
He needs a lane, right, Polis needs some kind of lane,
and he's trying to create this moderately. So he's now
the first blue state governor who has done this. Right,
(12:05):
some red state governors have done it, ironically, he's now
the first blue state governor to do it. Yeah, he's
just trying to carve out a lane. Can anybody show
me anything that would suggest to them that Polis sincerely
cares about the kids. Here, let's go to Roberton Mead
or it's Robert Mead one way or the other. You're
welcome here on the dan Kaplis show how you doing?
Speaker 7 (12:26):
Robert good damn, how you doing? And it's Robert from Meade, Colorado, wonderfow.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
You're a lucky man. You're a lucky man.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Thanks for taking my call. And I do have a
narrowly focused perspective on this. I wasn't too familiar with
the EBT process until my father moved to Colorado a
couple of years ago. And he's eighty four years old,
also security, so he is he has an EBT card.
But the one thing that has always frustrated.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Me is.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
I'm not a fan of polists, but let's start there.
But I want my dad to be able to have
a coke. But I think it could be maybe cap,
the monthly cap on it, you know, for things like
coke and candy and cookies and things like that. The
thing that frustrates me is my dad can't go buy
(13:21):
you know, soap and shampoo and toilet paper with an
EBT card, but you can go buy eight cases of coke. Yeah,
so that's sort of the oh I work I'm coming from.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I get that, I get that frustration, you bet, And
I'm just saying, and I'd extend this to the toilet paper.
If you're going to infringe on a poor person's freedom,
and this assumes that the person qualifies to be on.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The program to begin with.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Right, But if you're going to infringe on a poor
person's freedom, you better have a darn good reason, and
it better be consistent across the board, not just some
haphazard knee jerk political spasm from King Polis to try
to get ahead linees Hey.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Robin, but I was going to take the w and go,
but you're welcome to stay.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I've had so few people agree with me, I want
to lock one up here.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You have a great a you too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So you know how much there's a trick to this question, Ryan,
you know how much you can make and still get
food stamps in Colorado under certain conditions? What would you
guess the max you can make? I'm going to guess
forty thousand dollars a year. You could make one hundred
(14:43):
and nine thousand a year. Come on, but big butt,
like a big coke fueled buck.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I like five kids eighth.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Your household size would have to be eight. How much
do you think you can make? I'm on the state
state's website here. How much do you think you can
make and get food stamps for one gross gross income?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But there won't be taxes?
Speaker 10 (15:07):
For one person. I'm gonna go thirty k Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You're right about that. Yeah, you're right about that. How
about a family of four?
Speaker 11 (15:18):
Well somewhere in between what you just said eighty five
sixty one thousand, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So anyway, what do you think should King Polis while
he's doing it? So, do you think he's right to
be telling poor people? No coke for you? And then
I want to get to Kyle Clark's take from KUSA
probably the best argument that I'm wrong here that he
agrees with me. Polis back Robert F. Kenny Junior for help.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh no, I want to start this one at the beginning.
How about right.
Speaker 12 (15:49):
There, Democratic Governor Jared Polis is once again finding common
ground with the Trump administration making sure that poor kids
don't buy soda.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
With food benefits.
Speaker 12 (15:59):
Yes, he is a self proclaimed libertarian and the Republican
administration preaches against government medaling in people's lives. But man,
there is something about a low income kid cracking open
a PEPSI bought with snap that just steams their beans.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Polus backed Robert F.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Kenny Junior for Health Secretary.
Speaker 12 (16:15):
And today Colorado and a bunch of Republican states got
federal go ahead to ban families from using SNAP benefits
to buy soda and sugary beverages. Governor's office says this
is a health issue and that this will force stores
and low income neighborhoods to stock less soda in favor
of better for you drinks. Milk and one percent juice
drinks will be exempt from the ban. Colorado's the only
(16:36):
Democrat led state that's slapping taxpayer funded SODA's out of
the hands of kids this year, joins today's waiver requests
from Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, and Luisi.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
If you really cared about the kids, he'd support true
school choice so that all these people now could reach
their full economic potential and they wouldn't need food stamps.
That's the thing. Polists in the left are dead set
on keeping people in this cycle of power already fighting
for scraps, because once people start to make sixty thousand
or more, they vote Republican in a majority. And so, yeah,
(17:08):
if he really cared about the kids, he would show
it in ways that really matter. By the way, what
does the food stamp SNAP program allow you to buy?
What kind of food? For the household. I'm reading right
off the state website today, predictably, breads and cereals. Oh
my lord, cap'n Crunch. That'll kill you in thirty seconds, right, yeah,
(17:29):
cap'n Crunch. But you can go buy your cap'n Crunch.
How much sugar do you think he's in cap'n Crunch loads?
Holy cow, Holy cow. I will bet you half the
people who went to jail in the sixties and seventies
it was because of cap'n Crunch.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I'm serious. We would go off, we would go off.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
To Saint Mary's Star of the Sea every morning, load
it up on cap'n Crunch. No, Jerry would have convicted
any of those nons. Did your mom stop buying cap'n
Crunch for that reason?
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
We lived for cal Crunch. She got it for you anyway.
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean they just attributed my behavior
to it. Dropped on my head or something.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
But when we come back, I'll keep going through that list.
King Polis wrong to say to poor people, no coke
for you. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast just for
the fun of it, just for the bon of it.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Just while the taste of it diet just the stute.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
No poke for you, says King Polish to the poor
people of Colorado. You can no longer buy it on
food stamps because Jared says it's bad for you. All
this other stuff that's bad for you know that that's okay.
But King Jared right, governor Freedom he likes to call himself. Yeah,
you're free to do what Polis wants you to do. Unfortunately,
the Trump administration with him on this. I think it's
(18:58):
a I think it's a bone the president's throwing to
RFK Junior. And I like a lot of things RFK
Junior is doing. I just don't like this one. And
as we go to our jam lines, I understand I'm
in the minority here, but I just believe this is
a freedom issue and if the government's going to start
get involved in micromanaging diet like that, there better be clear, bright,
(19:19):
consistent lines.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
And I don't see that at all here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I think this is a knee jerk, politically spasmatic play
by polists and that's not enough in my mind, doing
fringe on freedom. And I know these people are in
food stamps, but I assume they all qualify. And so
once you open the door to this kind of government
micro management of diet, you think Jared Polis is going
to be happy stopping there or the left I'm not
(19:44):
choking here, it's peanut butter.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Maybe I'm choking on peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Or that the left's going to be happy stopping with
poor people and soda.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Really you think that's the end game?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, even if it is, you know, poor people on
the Snap program, I just don't like it.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Todd, and you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Welcome, Hey Dan, how are you living the dream?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Coke free?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Do you good?
Speaker 9 (20:08):
You?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
And Ryan and Jelly drink Coca cola on a regular basis.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Man, it's been forty years for me.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
I'm a big coke zero guy.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I shouldn't drink it, but I enjoy it.
Speaker 11 (20:18):
And you know, regular Coca cola when it's the real
cane sugar with the Mexican coke style, I love that,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I did have my first beer of the year the
other night.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Good for you. I am proud of didn't stop the one.
Very proud of you.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well, the reason you don't drink it is it's not
good for you. And so I wouldn't use the dichotomy
rich and poor kid. I would use the dichotomy informed kid.
And I'm an informed kid.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
My friend. I understand where you're going, but your health.
But here, here's why I would disagree, and that is
I think of and I think this is a common
experience for lots of kids. Our son Joe, right, I mean,
we didn't give our kids is coke or pepsi or
anything like that. But the first time Grandpa was going
to babysit for him, Joe's mission in life, and he
was probably three or four was getting Grandpa to get
(21:09):
him a pepsi. And one of my late father's great
joys in life was getting Joe's first pepsi. And so, no,
I don't want him sitting there drinking it out of
a bottle from birth. But I just don't see why
a poor kid shouldn't be able to have a coke
just like the next kid.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Oh, the poor kid can save us some money and
have a coke.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, get a paper route at four.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I wouldn't be feeding a four year old.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, I'm joking. I'm joking with you, my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm sure And I only made that comment because.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I informed and uninformed, and since RFK and bullish Go
I'm not a fan of are bringing this out, people
can ask themselves why not.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Well how about this?
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm themselves that it's not good for them?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, who gets to decide that though? Right, See, that's
where the slippery slope comes in. You're a great caller.
I hope you all often. But as we go to
the rest of our jam lines and you can get
Todd's right now if you want it. Here, I'm reading
from the list fresh off the website Current today.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Okay, what can you buy with this?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack, crackers and ice cream?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
All right?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
What do you think's next? How much sugar do you
think there is an ice cream? You think Polis stops?
You think the left stops at coke? Since when have
they stopped anywhere? Christine in beautiful Cheyenne, you're on the
dan Kaplis.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
You'll welcome, Thank you. I just think you're making a
big leap from the pork kid with no cokes to
the rich kid down the block with a coke. There
are millions of taxpayers in between the kid on snap
and the rich kid, and those taxpayers are making decisions
every day whether they can afford certain things, and that
(22:53):
includes pizza and cokes and candy, and they must pay
the IRS. And you talk out a poor person's freedom
and dignity. Yes, every human being deserves to be treated
with dignity, but it's pretty undignified and doesn't speak well
to freedom when you work like a dog all day
and have to send money to the IRS and have
(23:15):
to budget, denying your kids certain things or not being
able to say for college like you'd like to. So
coke is a luxury, just like going out for pizza
or something like that, and many people can't do that,
but they're paying their taxes. Well, I think luxuries are
not shouldn't be on the list.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
So where do you draw the line?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Listen, I can relate to I had the greatest parents,
the greatest stuff bringing in all of America. We are
the wealthiest people in America. But I had to save
up for a long time to buy a candy bar
and it made that candy bar taste great. But where
do you draw the line then, when you're infringing on freedom,
Because I'm reading off the Colorado list right now. You
can buy soft drinks, candy, cookies, snack crackers, and ice cream.
(24:00):
Do you say no ice cream because there's going to
be as much sugar in that ice creams as there
is in the pop.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
There may be, but.
Speaker 13 (24:08):
Right now we're talking about Coca cola and that's a luxury.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right, But what is ice cream?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Luxury?
Speaker 13 (24:13):
Isn't afford luxury?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Growing up?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
It is ice cream a luxury? I think it arguably
would be right? So would you take that out of
the food stamp program too?
Speaker 13 (24:24):
And we're talking about cop right now though, In Christine,
ice cream is something that a lot of families. It's special,
it's only for birthday. Yes, I mean people budgets, people
watch their pennies.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I am one hundred percent with you on that. And
what I'm saying, Christine is if you're going to infringe
on freedom as the government, you've got to have I think,
a clear reason for it, and you got to be consistent.
So polists will still let you go out and buy
ice cream? How does that make any sense?
Speaker 13 (24:56):
It doesn't? But then what that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, hey, is Rodney King would say we can all
get along. Hey, thank you, Christine, sure appreciate that great call.
We're getting so many great callers today, and I took
that call from Cheyenne in honor of food. You guys know,
Adline Major Wyoming law grad just finished the bar. Starts
with our law firm tomorrow's Yeah, she's been clerking for us.
(25:22):
Now she'll pass the bar. They don't get results until
early October. Yeah, she starts, so well, yeah, let's go
to Deborah in Lakewood. You're on the dan Kaplas. She'll
welcome Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
Dan.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
I think a point that I have not heard anybody
else make is that there is no law preventing them
from buying Coca cola. But they need to use their
own money. And people that are on food stamps or
the SNAP program have a source of income from somewhere
else that they pay their rent, and they buy their gas,
(25:57):
and they do all the other normal things. They go
out for inner, they take their children to McDonald's if
they have the money, and they buy Coca cola there
for their children. So Paula's is not banning Coca cola.
Nobody asks if they have Snap cards before they can
buy a coke anywhere. It's just at a grocery store
with money that the taxpayers are giving them.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, respectfully, I think the challenge with your logic there
is that so often folks need that other money for
other stuff SNAP doesn't pay for, you know, like rent, car,
et cetera. But but I would I would also belie.
Speaker 14 (26:34):
If it's that important to them, then they will find
the money.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
But do you see the bigger danger and the bigger
point here, which is this precedent of government telling you
what you can eat and drink and and so.
Speaker 14 (26:49):
The there's a lot of things that they shouldn't be
allowed to buy that are junk food. I mean, I
totally agree with banning a lot of those things. They
shouldn't buy, Oreo cookies, those things are deadly to you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Well, I'd have a lot easier time with all this
if it was consistent if you had, as I'd mentioned
to an earlier, very intelligent caller like you, if you
if you had a program that just said listen, man,
when it comes to this stuff, we're just talking about
keeping you and the kids alive. And so you know,
you can buy your milk, you can buy your eggs,
you can buy your meat. You can and you narrowed
(27:24):
it to those very limited categories that would at least
have some logical intellectual consistency. I mean, you could argue
that it's in humane in its own ways, but at
least there'd be something consistent there. This is just a
poll list with a spasmatic political play that I don't
(27:46):
I think it's a dangerous precedent.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Hey, great call I have to tell you, Ryan Kelly
Lines Jammed. I think this may be the best group
of callers wired to wire in a show that we've
had in a long time. And we pride ourselves on
our great callers, but a lot of good thinking here.
I just ask people to ponder this though. If if
you support this, then haven't you just opened that door
(28:12):
real wide to government deciding what you can eat and drink.
Now they can't come into your home and say, okay,
you can't eat or drink that, assuming you're paying for
it yourself, but they can stop it from ever getting
to your house. You think it's going to stop here?
You're on the Dan Kapla Show, And.
Speaker 10 (28:30):
Now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 15 (28:35):
Dollars a day on Snap and about ten percent is
going to sugar be drinks and between and if you
add candies to that it's about thirteen to seventeen percent.
And we all believe in free choice. We live in
a democracy. People can make their own choice about what
(28:55):
they're going to buy and what they're not going to buy.
If you want to buy a ugar Arisota, you ought
to be able to do that. A US taxpayer should
not pay for it. The US taxpayers should not be
paying to feed kids foods supporest kids in our country
with foods that are going to give them diabetes, and
(29:18):
then my agency ends up through Medicaid and medicare paying
for those injuries. Oh, we're going to put it into
that and we're doing it step by step, state by state.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, but wait a second.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I share the concern about the health of kids nationwide
and people nationwide, all of us nationwide because of what's
going on in the American food supply. But if you're
now going to say to Americans, Okay, you qualify for
this program, but we the government, are telling you you
can't buy this food versus that food, what I'm saying
is you better have a very compelling, consistent reason. So
(29:55):
I don't doubt RFK Junior sincerity, not one little bit.
But why in the world. Would you be saying no
pop but still allowing ice cream things like that?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So hey, if you want to make a clear, consistent,
you know, ruling here across the board, I could get
behind that, But this piecemeal stuff that seems more like
kind of a political play at the moment. And I
aim that at Polis. I think RFK Junior is one
hundred percent Sincere. I think he deeply, deeply cares about
(30:27):
the children and people of America and how our food
supply is hurting us. I think he's a one hundred
percent sincere guy. I think Polis is very close to
the opposite end of that spectrum. All right, he back
to the phone lines which are in Fuego. How about
Brian and Vada. You're on the Dan Kapla, she'll welcome.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Hey Dan, we got the most child obesity and then
he got diabetes. And this is Freedom's not free? Is
the problem. See, these people can't ask for something and
then expect something. So what I would do is make
a program where okay, you get so much out on
(31:08):
the ground, beep, make it specific, because let's a you
have generations of people who've been living on this dependent
people and that's why you have a lot of Democratic
voters and make them dependent, you know, to get the
pre internet and them all this garbage for free. So
do their kids about fat they get up, they want
to get on Medicaid because they got diabetes at twenty
(31:30):
years old. There's no way they can hold the tactory,
doubt nothing if we would focus on energy of maybe
the pre schooling.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Brian, I am so sorry because we love your calls.
There's something wrong with your phone line now, but I
think we got the gist of your point.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
And listen.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I've said repeatedly throughout this showing others that the left,
the Democratic Party Polish is the worst. They just want
to make all that he's not the worst of but
he's one of the worst. They just want to make
all these people depending on government right for the reasons
Brian says. And worst of all, they want to rob
them of their prosperity, their opportunity, equal opportunity. That's why
they oppose school choice. They want them fighting for scraps
(32:08):
because if you're more than sixty thousand dollars, chances are
your voting Republican. I understand all that. I'm just saying
that that to pick out pop within a program like this,
I think is so arbitrary and inconsistent. I am good
with you want to say, in a food stamp program,
we're just limiting it to the very basic, most highly
nutritious stuff that somebody needs to stay alive.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You know, I get that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But to just pick out pop when you're still paying
for all this other stuff, to me, no, you're infringing
on freedom. You better be compelling and consistent. And the
other thing is, do you really think polists and the
rest of the left want to stop with pop for
poor people? You think they're going to stop there? Drew
and Denver, welcome to the show. And I don't drink
this stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Welcome Drew. I'm fighting for others, good man.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I tell you what.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I'll tell you. What Holst is doing is just crazy.
Speaker 9 (33:02):
But I had a coke and a smile, you know
this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Okay, and you and the president.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And what he's doing.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
I've been an investor into coke for twenty five years.
Most of my retirement money is in coke. I'm selling
it tomorrow now.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
So that's a you're telling me you've drank it or
you bought the stock.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
No, I bought the stock.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, because you're in Buffett really likes that stock or
he did know.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
But I'm gonna sell the stock now tomorrow to this
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I'll call my stockbroker.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
I won't mention their name, but I will. I'll sell
it and reinvest in something else.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Okay, Well that's a bold move there, Drew, and hey,
apologies to everybody you didn't get through Texters as well.
I'm sure we'll follow up on this some more tomorrow
because we have some outstanding text and this issue isn't
going away because the Left ain't stopping here, and I
don't like the Trump administration involvment in that. Here's the difference, though, Ryan,
I don't think the Trump administration has any designs on
(34:18):
saying you, as an individual, will not be able to
use your own money to buy pop. I think the
left is all about that end right. They brought it
up before.
Speaker 11 (34:27):
Well, the interesting thing about today's topic is, Dan, I
don't know that we've ever had one that was so
evenly divided in the responses, both by phone and text
as our callers here, it's really an even split.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, it's one of those issues where you can make
really intelligent arguments on either side right, and to me
it just comes down to if something's going to infringe
on freedom, got to hire a burden there in my view.
But yeah, some really great arguments on the other side,
So thank you everybody for that, I do think, and
we pride ourselves on our great callers. Probably the best
(34:58):
wire to wire group of callers that we've had on
any topic in a very very.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Long time, maybe ever. Thank you Ryan, Thank you Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Please join us tomorrow on The Dan Kepler Show.
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