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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm very pleased to welcome to the show, my friend,
my colleague, the guy who did such an amazing job
with our Nuggets parade coverage that I won an award
for it with him, even though he did all the
hard work. Ryan Edwards is co host of KOA Sports
from three pm to six pm right here on KOA,
and as I say from time to time, Ryan has
(00:22):
forgotten more about sports.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Than I will ever know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hi. Ryan, Hello, my friend, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Very good?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I want to talk to you just for a few minutes,
kind of a lightning round sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
About the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Denver Broncos, the Denver Broncos draft.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So you ready to go?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, So we knew last week and we talked briefly
on the show about John A.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Baron.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But now that you've had a little more time to
look at him, what should we think of that pick?
And what should we think of the fact that they
took a cornerback as their first pick. When the common wisdom,
or I don't know if it's wisdom, the common thinking
was that the Broncos needed help at running back and
tight end.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I mean, there's a lot of ways to look
at it. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I really like him as a prospect. I think I
like the plan that they have for him on the roster.
And know a lot of people will say, well, you're
already great in the secondary, you can always be better
in the secondary. And this is a guy that can
kind of move around the formation. He could start at nickel,
He's a guy that you could put on the outside,
you could play him up in the Boxer's all sorts
of really great options with Joda Baron. But more than anything,
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I think it was about value, right. I think that
they sat there at pick twenty, they had a couple
of players they kind of haven't had in mind. I
got to be honest, I think if they didn't take
Jadday Baron there at twenty, they are probably trading out
of the first round altogether. That's my take. I don't
know if that's going to be what actually would have happened,
We'll never know. But Jaday Baron represented too much value.
They thought he was a top ten, top twelve prospect,
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and they got him there at twenty, and once he
was available there at twenty, they just basically said, all right,
this is our guy.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What do you think the odds are not necessarily for
Game one. And I'm talking about regular season games, not preseason.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What do you think the.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Odds are that jod Day Baron starts a game for
the Broncos this year.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think he'll start every game.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Really, do you think he's that already?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah? I think he's that kind of talent.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I mean, again, you talk about the other cornerbacks that
are usually drafted in the first.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Round, even even their pick twenty. He's not developmental.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
He's not a guy that you have to bring along
slowly and you have to coach up and you just
want to get him in the room.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
He's a day one starter for them. I'd say he's
a day one starter at Nickels. So that, you know,
not great news for Jawan McMillan necessarily, but he's probably
your day one starter at Nickel. But the fact that
you kind of move him around most of the league
right now five dbs Nickel is base. So basically what
I mean by that is that most teams now they
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want to have three wide receivers on the field, which
means you need to be lighter in the back end.
You know, you go to older school football and maybe
you only have two cornerbacks, you have two safeties, and
then you got three linebackers on the field because everybody's
running the ball at Yah. Well that's not the league now.
The league now is where everybody wants to throw the ball,
which means you have need to have more cornerbacks. And
so in this case, I think he starts day one.
(03:12):
I think they're gonna be excited about it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean I go back to the to the days
of John Reagan's the diesel running for the Redskins with
the Hogs, you know, so I know, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Know exactly what you're talking about. One other thing about
John A.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Baron, I'm really enjoying the stuff that I'm reading about
him in terms of what seems like like his character.
You know, there was this stuff about how he was
in church for the hour before the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
You know, talking with his pastor.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Or a priest or whichever it is, for his particular faith.
And there's a lot of talk about him being very intelligent,
and he seems like a guy who I maybe not
as a rookie, but he seems like a kind of
guy who could be a team captain.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think that's exactly I mean, maybe not rookie to captain,
but down the road absolutely. I mean, Patritan's already a
team captain, but imagine having those two kind of quality
players and humans there in your secondary.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think it's a great point.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I thought there was a lot of really nice moments
he talked about when he was drafted, or at least
the Broncos. Talked about how he has to be put
on speaker phone and talked to the draft room and
thank them for changing not only his life but his
mother's life. I've never even heard of something like that.
I know that maybe some of those stories kind of
get overblown, but I do think it speaks to his
character and his personality. He looks in the mirror every
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day and sets a goal for himself, which is again
just sort of goes to his character. I remember meeting
him at the combine and I was so blown away
by his maturity. In fact, he even said that's something
that he prides himself on. A lot of people will
look at the tape and they'll see what they want
to see, but he talked about himself as a person.
He also talked a lot at the comic because I
remember it stuck with me more specifically about how you
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can't really control the process. You have to let the
process go. And I think some of that goes to
his religion, but in his mind, you know, there's only
so much you can do to force the situation. You
have to sort of be at the will of it.
And I just thought there were some really cool kind
of zen like or religious like things to take away
from that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, and I'm not going to get into this with you,
but for two guys who appear to be, you know,
men of faith, the presentation between Johday Baron and shid
Or Sanders could hardly be more different.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't know if you want to offer any brief
comment on that, well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mean, again, it different bringings, right, I mean you
think about Shore Sanders with coach Prime and Deon Sanders
as your dad, just the over the top nature of
Dion Sanders versus the parents that obviously raised Jodd Barron.
And yeah, I mean, I you know, religion and faith
and all those kinds of things they represent different for everybody.
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But more than anything, I think, you know, again you
think about the climates that you're raised in, and for
shud Or Sanders, who's coming into the NFL. He only
knows one way and that is the prime way, and
so unfortunately I think that backfired a live before him.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's a great point, all right, Round two? Who the
Broncos taken?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Round two? And what should we think of him?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So they traded back a couple of times, tried to
add some extra draft capital, which ended up helping them
out a lot, especially because a player they were able
to sneak back into the third round later and get.
They went with pick sixty. R. J. Harvey's a running
back at a UCF, A super talented four four speed,
so very fast. The thing that jumps out about him
that I liked about him in the pre draft process
was his vision. He knows how to really find those
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spots in the zone or the spots in the offensive line,
and he just sort of squeezes through them. But he's
also patient with his blockers, which again for a younger
player that's sometimes tough to find. Usually had to develop
some of that or in some cases some analysts out
there will say either you have it or you don't.
He has it, and so you do appreciate the vision
that he brings. The explosiveness I mean, he'll take what
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is a shorder run and he can break it off
to a sixty yard touchdown. The Broncos really haven't had
a lot of that recently, so I can see why
they really fell in love with him. As far as
him being a three down back, I mean, it's a
little bit of a discussion point. I don't think they've
grafted him to be a three year down back, but
he does offer some versatility there. He needs to be
better in pass pro at the biggest knock against him
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if I had one, and that's something you'll have to
develop at the next level.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, and I don't think he's very big, right, I
don't think he's very tall.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean, I'm sure his legs.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are probably as thick as my chest, but he's not
very tall. It reminds me a little bit of like
maybe Darren Sprolls and a couple of these other guys
who were, you know, small and really low center of
gravity could get through the hole. You don't always see though,
the guys who I will lovingly call little have that
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crazy kind of speed.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, he's five nine two await, so you're you're absolutely right,
but he's thick.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
If you will right.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
He's got strong on lower legs and a lot of drive,
and he's not afraid of contact. Sometimes with those lighter
backs like you talk about not Darren Sprolls, but I
think about Ronnie Hillman for example, he's here. You know,
they're sometimes kind of running away from contact, and it
makes sense, like you don't want to get beat up
too much when you're one of the lighter backs, you
want to use that speed.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Really you are run away from people. But RJ.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Harvey's not that guy. He's gonna he's look looking for contact.
But more than anything is is he's elusive enough that
he doesn't always have to be hit.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So it's a nice balance for him.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
By the way, if they're saying he's five to nine
two eight, did you say two eight? Yeah, if they
If they say he's five nine two o eight, then
he's then he's five seven and a half one ninety one.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Night right.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You don't have to confer, you don't have to confirm
or deny. But that's how the NFL. That's how college
ball works too. I know because when I was on
my college team, they listed me at at five eleven
one ninety five and I'm five nine on a good day.
So anyway, all right, let's let's go a little quickly
here around three.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Pat Bryant. Who's he?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, Pat Bryant's a big receiver. I mean he's six'
to two a little about two ten or. SO i
think the thing that jumps out with, him and you
heard it From Sean payton after the, draft he reminds
him Of Michael. Thomas he's got some of those ball,
traits the way he has a massive catch, radius contorts his.
Body he's really quick off the, line though his forty
(09:22):
times was a bit. Slow it's the reason why he
didn't really go higher in the. Draft he's a four
to six one, forty which is pretty. Significant in, FACT
i think it is the second slowest as far as
wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Go so it's not a.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Great forty, Time but when you watch, him you don't see.
That it doesn't show up when you watch. Him so
the More i've dug in On Pat, bryant the More
i've liked. It though this will be the considerable consensus
reach for The. Broncos most people had him go in
the fifth.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Round, interesting, yeah so we'll have to see if if
his routes are as sharp as they, think and if
his hands are as good as they, think because that's
what you. Need if you're, not if you're not super,
fast let's see what. Else, okay pick number one oh,
one who's.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That Yeps Savean jones defensive end out OF. Lsu this
is a guy that can play, inside he can play
a bit of the. Edge he's just a, big physical defensive.
END i think that he can he could play a
lot of staffs early on as a rotation. GUY i
think they want to develop some of his pass rush
moves a little bit, more not make him not just
a power. Guy but he obviously already brings the power stuff.
(10:21):
There and as you know you're playing THE, sec you're
SEEING nfl talent.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Away he started twenty seven games to close out his
career AT, lsu so he's available and he plays all the.
Time in, fact when we interviewed, him we talked about
how much he takes takes care of his body and
he makes that a. Priority and again they drafted, Captains
they drafted mature guys throughout this, draft and he's another one.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Of them in terms of physical size and rushing. Style
who might you compare him to is He Vonne miller?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Type is he a little bigger than? That what's he?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like he's a little.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Bigger i'd say he's actually pretty close To John, myers
who we out here In. Denver i'd say that's a
little bit. More now Again John Franklin, MYERS i think
that he has a little bit more. Ability he's a
little more savvy at this point in his. Career but
again you're talking about development. Arc he's got the physical
tools to get there as far As i'm, Concerned and
it gives you some leverage Because John Franklin myers is
(11:18):
in a contract.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Year round, four who'd they?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Pick they Took Ke, robinson outside linebacker out Of. Alabama
he is more of a stand up edge and developmental
at That he didn't REALLY i think he started like
four games something like.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That he didn't play a ton at, edge AND i
think that's because he's kind of a.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Tweener but he is a considerable special teams. Player AND
i know some people, say, well fourth round or special,
teams that seems like a bit of a, reach and
some people on consistence would say, that But Nick saban
said he's the best special teams player he's ever, coached
AND i feel like that's pretty high remarks for this
player and The broncos once, again they're, showing, hey we're
not going to go into one specific position here in the.
(11:55):
Draft we're gonna draft for all three, phases and this
guy could be a core special team or a Day speaking.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Of special, teams how about that round six, Pick.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah Jervy Chris. Crosshaw, yeah we interviewed.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Him he's An aussie and he's got a fabulous, mustache
although he said he shaved it because of the humidity
down In, florida but we told him you can grow
it right back because he's.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
In colorado now, here and he's a. Punter.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yep they decided to go punter, there but they need a,
punter so you, know they brought In hake in the off.
Season but this gives you a cost control option there
in the sixth, round which is a, steal all.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Right and then round seven is a position where a
lot of people have thought The broncos needed. Help were
you surprised that it took to round seven to pick
a tight?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
End, no not.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
REALLY i imagine that The broncos had some tight ends
on their. Board it just didn't fall that. Way and
that happens in. Drafts sometimes it's, like, hey there's a
guy that you'd. Like if he's there around, there maybe
you trade up a couple spots and get. Him BUT
i think the board just felling away where they didn't
come away with. One, plus they Added Evan ingram in
the off, season so they felt like they weren't desperate
to do. Something he's a basketball, player kill. Blowner he
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only played this last year At. Utah he caught four
passes for four. Touchdowns that's that's the extent of. It
but they're all those box, out you, know red. Zone
just throw it up and let him go up and get.
It he's six foot seven and two hundred and fifty,
pounds SO i think this is just. Project but you,
know you get him in the building and you just
see if there's something you can do. There Sean payton
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very quickly has done such a great job developing these basketball,
Players Jimmy graham being one of the most notable. Ones
it's a basketball player that they drafted and they turned
it into one of the elite tight ends in the.
Game we've Seen Antonio, gates we've seen other guys that
had basketball.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Backgrounds tony J.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Tony, Gonzal, yep, Exactly Tony gonzalez another. One so we've
seen that be a bit of a trend in the
last couple of decades where teams have, said, hey we'll
take a risk on a, guy it's a basketball, player
and just see if we can turn him into a tight.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
End, Yeah i'm very proud of myself for getting The
Tony gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Thing i'm very very proud of. Myself you nailed.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It we're talking With Ryan, edwards co host OF Koa
sports three pm to six pm today And i'm sure
that you guys are going to spend much or most
of the show talking about the. Draft SO i have
one last question for. You what grade would you give
The broncos on their?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Draft?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
OVERALL i feel like A b OR b minus is pretty. Fair,
again you, know it's all subjective at this. POINT i
want to see the plan ultimately for these. Players, yeah
there's some, players the wide receivers specifically there when they
Took Pat bryant THAT i probably would have selected ahead of.
Him but again that's my. Consensus that's my grades or
players THAT i liked versus what The broncos. Like if
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they Get Pat bryan here and he's wide receiver two
from day, one well then, heck we're not even talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
This this isn't even a. Problem.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Right if He's Tim patrick or The, broncos then we're.
Good So i'd SAY bb minus as we sit here.
Today but it certainly can. Improve you've got some, Needs
you've got some high upside swing, players and NOW i
can't wait to see how they.
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Speaker 2 (15:25):
Awesome thanks for your, Time, ryan appreciate.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It, yeah appreciate You, man thank, you
I'm very pleased to welcome to the show, my friend,
my colleague, the guy who did such an amazing job
with our Nuggets parade coverage that I won an award
for it with him, even though he did all the
hard work. Ryan Edwards is co host of KOA Sports
from three pm to six pm right here on KOA,
and as I say from time to time, Ryan has
(00:22):
forgotten more about sports.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Than I will ever know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hi. Ryan, Hello, my friend, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Very good?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I want to talk to you just for a few minutes,
kind of a lightning round sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
About the.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Denver Broncos, the Denver Broncos draft.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So you ready to go?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, So we knew last week and we talked briefly
on the show about John A.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Baron.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
But now that you've had a little more time to
look at him, what should we think of that pick?
And what should we think of the fact that they
took a cornerback as their first pick. When the common wisdom,
or I don't know if it's wisdom, the common thinking
was that the Broncos needed help at running back and
tight end.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I mean, there's a lot of ways to look
at it. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I really like him as a prospect. I think I
like the plan that they have for him on the roster.
And know a lot of people will say, well, you're
already great in the secondary, you can always be better
in the secondary. And this is a guy that can
kind of move around the formation. He could start at nickel,
He's a guy that you could put on the outside,
you could play him up in the Boxer's all sorts
of really great options with Joda Baron. But more than anything,
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I think it was about value, right. I think that
they sat there at pick twenty, they had a couple
of players they kind of haven't had in mind. I
got to be honest, I think if they didn't take
Jadday Baron there at twenty, they are probably trading out
of the first round altogether. That's my take. I don't
know if that's going to be what actually would have happened,
We'll never know. But Jaday Baron represented too much value.
They thought he was a top ten, top twelve prospect,
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and they got him there at twenty, and once he
was available there at twenty, they just basically said, all right,
this is our guy.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What do you think the odds are not necessarily for
Game one. And I'm talking about regular season games, not preseason.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What do you think the.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Odds are that jod Day Baron starts a game for
the Broncos this year.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think he'll start every game.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Really, do you think he's that already?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah? I think he's that kind of talent.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I mean, again, you talk about the other cornerbacks that
are usually drafted in the first.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Round, even even their pick twenty. He's not developmental.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
He's not a guy that you have to bring along
slowly and you have to coach up and you just
want to get him in the room.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
He's a day one starter for them. I'd say he's
a day one starter at Nickels. So that, you know,
not great news for Jawan McMillan necessarily, but he's probably
your day one starter at Nickel. But the fact that
you kind of move him around most of the league
right now five dbs Nickel is base. So basically what
I mean by that is that most teams now they
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want to have three wide receivers on the field, which
means you need to be lighter in the back end.
You know, you go to older school football and maybe
you only have two cornerbacks, you have two safeties, and
then you got three linebackers on the field because everybody's
running the ball at Yah. Well that's not the league now.
The league now is where everybody wants to throw the ball,
which means you have need to have more cornerbacks. And
so in this case, I think he starts day one.
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I think they're gonna be excited about it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean I go back to the to the days
of John Reagan's the diesel running for the Redskins with
the Hogs, you know, so I know, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Know exactly what you're talking about. One other thing about
John A.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Baron, I'm really enjoying the stuff that I'm reading about
him in terms of what seems like like his character.
You know, there was this stuff about how he was
in church for the hour before the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
You know, talking with his pastor.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Or a priest or whichever it is, for his particular faith.
And there's a lot of talk about him being very intelligent,
and he seems like a guy who I maybe not
as a rookie, but he seems like a kind of
guy who could be a team captain.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I think that's exactly I mean, maybe not rookie to captain,
but down the road absolutely. I mean, Patritan's already a
team captain, but imagine having those two kind of quality
players and humans there in your secondary.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I think it's a great point.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
I thought there was a lot of really nice moments
he talked about when he was drafted, or at least
the Broncos. Talked about how he has to be put
on speaker phone and talked to the draft room and
thank them for changing not only his life but his
mother's life. I've never even heard of something like that.
I know that maybe some of those stories kind of
get overblown, but I do think it speaks to his
character and his personality. He looks in the mirror every
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day and sets a goal for himself, which is again
just sort of goes to his character. I remember meeting
him at the combine and I was so blown away
by his maturity. In fact, he even said that's something
that he prides himself on. A lot of people will
look at the tape and they'll see what they want
to see, but he talked about himself as a person.
He also talked a lot at the comic because I
remember it stuck with me more specifically about how you
(04:56):
can't really control the process. You have to let the
process go. And I think some of that goes to
his religion, but in his mind, you know, there's only
so much you can do to force the situation. You
have to sort of be at the will of it.
And I just thought there were some really cool kind
of zen like or religious like things to take away
from that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, and I'm not going to get into this with you,
but for two guys who appear to be, you know,
men of faith, the presentation between Johday Baron and shid
Or Sanders could hardly be more different.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't know if you want to offer any brief
comment on that, well.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mean, again, it different bringings, right, I mean you
think about Shore Sanders with coach Prime and Deon Sanders
as your dad, just the over the top nature of
Dion Sanders versus the parents that obviously raised Jodd Barron.
And yeah, I mean, I you know, religion and faith
and all those kinds of things they represent different for everybody.
(05:55):
But more than anything, I think, you know, again you
think about the climates that you're raised in, and for
shud Or Sanders, who's coming into the NFL. He only
knows one way and that is the prime way, and
so unfortunately I think that backfired a live before him.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's a great point, all right, Round two? Who the
Broncos taken?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Round two? And what should we think of him?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
So they traded back a couple of times, tried to
add some extra draft capital, which ended up helping them
out a lot, especially because a player they were able
to sneak back into the third round later and get.
They went with pick sixty. R. J. Harvey's a running
back at a UCF, A super talented four four speed,
so very fast. The thing that jumps out about him
that I liked about him in the pre draft process
was his vision. He knows how to really find those
(06:38):
spots in the zone or the spots in the offensive line,
and he just sort of squeezes through them. But he's
also patient with his blockers, which again for a younger
player that's sometimes tough to find. Usually had to develop
some of that or in some cases some analysts out
there will say either you have it or you don't.
He has it, and so you do appreciate the vision
that he brings. The explosiveness I mean, he'll take what
(06:59):
is a shorder run and he can break it off
to a sixty yard touchdown. The Broncos really haven't had
a lot of that recently, so I can see why
they really fell in love with him. As far as
him being a three down back, I mean, it's a
little bit of a discussion point. I don't think they've
grafted him to be a three year down back, but
he does offer some versatility there. He needs to be
better in pass pro at the biggest knock against him
(07:20):
if I had one, and that's something you'll have to
develop at the next level.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, and I don't think he's very big, right, I
don't think he's very tall.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I mean, I'm sure his legs.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Are probably as thick as my chest, but he's not
very tall. It reminds me a little bit of like
maybe Darren Sprolls and a couple of these other guys
who were, you know, small and really low center of
gravity could get through the hole. You don't always see though,
the guys who I will lovingly call little have that
(07:50):
crazy kind of speed.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, he's five nine two await, so you're you're absolutely right,
but he's thick.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
If you will right.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
He's got strong on lower legs and a lot of drive,
and he's not afraid of contact. Sometimes with those lighter
backs like you talk about not Darren Sprolls, but I
think about Ronnie Hillman for example, he's here. You know,
they're sometimes kind of running away from contact, and it
makes sense, like you don't want to get beat up
too much when you're one of the lighter backs, you
want to use that speed.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Really you are run away from people. But RJ.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Harvey's not that guy. He's gonna he's look looking for contact.
But more than anything is is he's elusive enough that
he doesn't always have to be hit.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So it's a nice balance for him.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
By the way, if they're saying he's five to nine
two eight, did you say two eight? Yeah, if they
If they say he's five nine two o eight, then
he's then he's five seven and a half one ninety one.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Night right.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You don't have to confer, you don't have to confirm
or deny. But that's how the NFL. That's how college
ball works too. I know because when I was on
my college team, they listed me at at five eleven
one ninety five and I'm five nine on a good day.
So anyway, all right, let's let's go a little quickly
here around three.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Pat Bryant. Who's he?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, Pat Bryant's a big receiver. I mean he's six'
to two a little about two ten or. SO i
think the thing that jumps out with, him and you
heard it From Sean payton after the, draft he reminds
him Of Michael. Thomas he's got some of those ball,
traits the way he has a massive catch, radius contorts his.
Body he's really quick off the, line though his forty
(09:22):
times was a bit. Slow it's the reason why he
didn't really go higher in the. Draft he's a four
to six one, forty which is pretty. Significant in, FACT
i think it is the second slowest as far as
wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Go so it's not a.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Great forty, Time but when you watch, him you don't see.
That it doesn't show up when you watch. Him so
the More i've dug in On Pat, bryant the More
i've liked. It though this will be the considerable consensus
reach for The. Broncos most people had him go in
the fifth.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Round, interesting, yeah so we'll have to see if if
his routes are as sharp as they, think and if
his hands are as good as they, think because that's
what you. Need if you're, not if you're not super,
fast let's see what. Else, okay pick number one oh,
one who's.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That Yeps Savean jones defensive end out OF. Lsu this
is a guy that can play, inside he can play
a bit of the. Edge he's just a, big physical defensive.
END i think that he can he could play a
lot of staffs early on as a rotation. GUY i
think they want to develop some of his pass rush
moves a little bit, more not make him not just
a power. Guy but he obviously already brings the power stuff.
(10:21):
There and as you know you're playing THE, sec you're
SEEING nfl talent.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Away he started twenty seven games to close out his
career AT, lsu so he's available and he plays all the.
Time in, fact when we interviewed, him we talked about
how much he takes takes care of his body and
he makes that a. Priority and again they drafted, Captains
they drafted mature guys throughout this, draft and he's another one.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Of them in terms of physical size and rushing. Style
who might you compare him to is He Vonne miller?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Type is he a little bigger than? That what's he?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like he's a little.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Bigger i'd say he's actually pretty close To John, myers
who we out here In. Denver i'd say that's a
little bit. More now Again John Franklin, MYERS i think
that he has a little bit more. Ability he's a
little more savvy at this point in his. Career but
again you're talking about development. Arc he's got the physical
tools to get there as far As i'm, Concerned and
it gives you some leverage Because John Franklin myers is
(11:18):
in a contract.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Year round, four who'd they?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Pick they Took Ke, robinson outside linebacker out Of. Alabama
he is more of a stand up edge and developmental
at That he didn't REALLY i think he started like
four games something like.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
That he didn't play a ton at, edge AND i
think that's because he's kind of a.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Tweener but he is a considerable special teams. Player AND
i know some people, say, well fourth round or special,
teams that seems like a bit of a, reach and
some people on consistence would say, that But Nick saban
said he's the best special teams player he's ever, coached
AND i feel like that's pretty high remarks for this
player and The broncos once, again they're, showing, hey we're
not going to go into one specific position here in the.
(11:55):
Draft we're gonna draft for all three, phases and this
guy could be a core special team or a Day speaking.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Of special, teams how about that round six, Pick.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah Jervy Chris. Crosshaw, yeah we interviewed.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Him he's An aussie and he's got a fabulous, mustache
although he said he shaved it because of the humidity
down In, florida but we told him you can grow
it right back because he's.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
In colorado now, here and he's a. Punter.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yep they decided to go punter, there but they need a,
punter so you, know they brought In hake in the off.
Season but this gives you a cost control option there
in the sixth, round which is a, steal all.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Right and then round seven is a position where a
lot of people have thought The broncos needed. Help were
you surprised that it took to round seven to pick
a tight?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
End, no not.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
REALLY i imagine that The broncos had some tight ends
on their. Board it just didn't fall that. Way and
that happens in. Drafts sometimes it's, like, hey there's a
guy that you'd. Like if he's there around, there maybe
you trade up a couple spots and get. Him BUT
i think the board just felling away where they didn't
come away with. One, plus they Added Evan ingram in
the off, season so they felt like they weren't desperate
to do. Something he's a basketball, player kill. Blowner he
(13:01):
only played this last year At. Utah he caught four
passes for four. Touchdowns that's that's the extent of. It
but they're all those box, out you, know red. Zone
just throw it up and let him go up and get.
It he's six foot seven and two hundred and fifty,
pounds SO i think this is just. Project but you,
know you get him in the building and you just
see if there's something you can do. There Sean payton
(13:24):
very quickly has done such a great job developing these basketball,
Players Jimmy graham being one of the most notable. Ones
it's a basketball player that they drafted and they turned
it into one of the elite tight ends in the.
Game we've Seen Antonio, gates we've seen other guys that
had basketball.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Backgrounds tony J.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Tony, Gonzal, yep, Exactly Tony gonzalez another. One so we've
seen that be a bit of a trend in the
last couple of decades where teams have, said, hey we'll
take a risk on a, guy it's a basketball, player
and just see if we can turn him into a tight.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
End, Yeah i'm very proud of myself for getting The
Tony gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Thing i'm very very proud of. Myself you nailed.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It we're talking With Ryan, edwards co host OF Koa
sports three pm to six pm today And i'm sure
that you guys are going to spend much or most
of the show talking about the. Draft SO i have
one last question for. You what grade would you give
The broncos on their?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Draft?
Speaker 4 (14:11):
OVERALL i feel like A b OR b minus is pretty. Fair,
again you, know it's all subjective at this. POINT i
want to see the plan ultimately for these. Players, yeah
there's some, players the wide receivers specifically there when they
Took Pat bryant THAT i probably would have selected ahead of.
Him but again that's my. Consensus that's my grades or
players THAT i liked versus what The broncos. Like if
(14:33):
they Get Pat bryan here and he's wide receiver two
from day, one well then, heck we're not even talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
This this isn't even a. Problem.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Right if He's Tim patrick or The, broncos then we're.
Good So i'd SAY bb minus as we sit here.
Today but it certainly can. Improve you've got some, Needs
you've got some high upside swing, players and NOW i
can't wait to see how they.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Develop everybody tune in at three, pm three to six
FOR Koa sports and you can Hear ryan and all the.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Guys talk about this.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Stuff AND i should also note that tomorrow from three
to six you can Join Dave logan and this Same
ryan And Nick ferguson At Sam's number Three diner in
bar In glendale On.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
South Cherry street and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
WATCH i guess that'll be A nuggets, game. RIGHT i
think THE abs played a night in The nuggets, Tomorrow
is that?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Right that is?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Correct, yep it'll Be game five in The apps to,
night but Then game five The nuggets And clippers, tomorrow
which would be a good one since their tie.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Too too.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Awesome thanks for your, Time, ryan appreciate.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It, yeah appreciate You, man thank, you
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