04-8-25 - *FULL SHOW* Criminalizing Pronouns; Now What for the Economy; Experts

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The least important story of the day, so I have
every once in a while I try to demonstrate to
myself that I am capable. You need to listen to
this story, Shannon, because I think you'll appreciate it that
I am capable of abiding by a little bit of discipline.
I consider myself a fairly undisciplined person. I'm relatively disciplined

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at my job and not very disciplined at anything else.
And sometimes I don't know whether it's a form of
stoic of living, a kind of stoic philosophy, or whether
it's more of a Buddhist thing.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm not Buddhist at all, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
But I just try to find a way to be
tolerant of things that people generally should not be tolerant of,
just to see if I can, as if somehow it
makes me a slightly better person, if I can be
tolerant of something that I should be upset with and

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that any normal person would be upset with. And exhibit
A for this week and why I'm slightly proud of myself.
About a week ago, I went into our bathroom, the
bathroom that is, you know, part of attached to.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
The master bedroom in our house.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I went into the bathroom and my lovely bride, Kristen,
had installed a new role of toilet paper backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Everybody knows that the toilet paper.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Comes forward over the top and comes down over the
front of the role, and does not go down behind
the back and come out behind the roll. That's a
communist way. Everybody knows that. And the reason that I'm
proud of myself is not just that I didn't turn
it around. I also didn't say anything to Christen about

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her communist toilet paper position, and I left it there for.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
The whole week our However, it long.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Long it took to go through that whole roll of
toilet paper. By the way, if I were the only
one using that bathroom, it would probably take a month.
But my wife, being a woman, uses a lot more
toilet paper than I do, and so it's about a
week or so maybe a little more to get through
a roll of toilet paper. And as of this morning,

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that roll of toilet paper was gone, but she hadn't
installed a new one yet. Now she installs a new
one the common way. I'm probably not going to be
so tolerant, but I was very proud of myself for
being able to go into that bathroom every day once
at least once every day, go in there every day
and see communist toilet paper and not react to it.

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And I'm very pleased with myself. Maybe it means I'm
maturing a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
And able to able to just tolerate and forgive.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So that's that's my lesson for the days for me
more than my listen for you. Congratulations to the Florida
Gators for winning the NCAA Men's basketball Tournament. Shannon, how
many games did you watch of the NCAA NCAA Basketball Tournament? What?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Uh huh uh.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's the same number of games I watched. I didn't
even watch the last game last night, although it looks
like it was quite a fabulous game. Congratulations anyway to Florida.
I will note one thing because you know that sometimes
even if there's a sport that don't care particularly about,
sometimes there's some information about the sport that's particularly interesting, right,
especially as a data nerd. So you know how they

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do the brackets there, there's four different You've got the
whole massive bracket, and then you've got four regions and
sixteen teams in each region, and the four sixteen team
regions add up to the sixty four teams in the tournament,
and each team each region is ranked seeded.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's called one through sixteen.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Final four this year were all the number one seeds.
This seeding thing started in nineteen seventy nine. So what
is that forty five forty six years ago?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, forty six years ago.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And this was only the second time since.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Then all four final four teams were number one seeds.
So I thought that was I thought that was pretty interesting.
So that's about all I have to say with you
to you on that.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
What else do I want to talk about? Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
So I mentioned yesterday on the show that there was
an insane, absolutely insane move in the stock market yesterday
morning around eight o'clock hour time. In less than twenty minutes,
the stock market went up around seven percent something in
the neighborhood of two and a half trillion dollars in

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value based on chirn words on the bottom of the
screen on CNBC that said that said Trump is considering
a ninety day pause in tariffs for all countries except China.

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Now here's a headline from Fox Business. CNBC issues on
air correction after pushing viral falsehood about Trump tariff pause.
So apparently what happened is and I went and watched
the clip. At some point, Kevin Hassett, who was a
National Economic Council Director for Donald Trump, was doing an
interview on Fox News. On with Fox and Friends, Brian

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Kilnead was asking him a question. He said, do you
think Donald Trump would consider a ninety day pause on
tariff's and has it? Who seemed to be half kind
of listening to somebody else or still responding to something
else or whatever. He said, like just almost briefly, like
you could barely hear it. He said yeah, and then

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said and you could you could tell that wasn't really
his answer. I'll try to do it the way he did.
I wish I don't have the audio in front of me,
but I'll just try to recreate it for you. Do
you think President Trump will consider a ninety day pause? Yeah?
The President will decide what he's going to decide. Well,
that's not a yes. But what happened was somebody at

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CNBC just picked up that.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Little yeah at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And then put this thing on the screen saying that
the White House is looking at a ninety day pause.
And it was completely fake news. And it was a
two and a half trillion dollar move in the market,
and then it gave it all almost all back, and
then it came back up later in the day. We
have a decent little rally going in the market today.
It's well off its highs, but still up two point

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four percent in the Dow and a little more in.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
The S and P.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's fine, But what an amazing story to see
the most important financial network put up a completely false
headline about the most important economic story, not only of
the day, but maybe of a generation, and they put

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up fake news, moving the market in fifteen or twenty minutes,
an amount that sometimes is less than the complete market
move in a year, although obviously within a year you'll
have ups and downs. But I mean, if the market
moved up or down seven percent in a month, you

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would say that's a big deal. Now, not compared to
the previous few days where we were down eight percent
in a couple of days, and we were down a.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Lot before that, But that's not normal.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Normally, a seven percent move in a month would be
a very big deal list with seven percent in fifteen
or twenty minutes because CNN couldn't.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Do their free and jobs.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
And his name is Jim, And you know, I was
just talking about the communist toilet paper positioning that my
wife did, where the you know, she installed a new
roll of toilet paper with the paper coming down behind
the back of the roll, which is the way Vladimir
Putin would do it, or write or Chairman Mao even,

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rather than the American way, which is the freedom loving
American way, which is the paper coming over the front.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Now a few people have sent me this picture before.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Jim just sent it again and it's a picture of
the illustration for a patent for a roll of toilet paper,
and it's from eighteen ninety one and it shows, of
course the paper going the correct American non communist way,

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coming down over the front from the top. And I know,
I know my listeners are all or all all freedom
loving patriotic Americans who would never have the toilet paper
coming down behind the back of the role.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So I didn't really need to remind you of that.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
But what I wanted to just share with you, and
I need to get this dude, on the show if
he's willing to come on.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He might be listening right now.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
But Jim said that what he does for a living,
or at least part of his living, I don't know
if it's his full time job is And he said
he's been doing this for forty five years. He's a
patent illustrator. Doesn't that sound like an awesome job. Somebody
comes up with a new thing and you have to

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you have to draw it. Isn't that cool? And then
you get to see all these new things before other
people even ever hear of them.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think that's just so neat.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm a nerd. But all right, Jim, I'm gonna try
to get you on the show if you're up for it.
So let me switch to some state politics for a minute.
So before the political thing, producer, Shannon, have you have
you heard of something called the Peter principle? Have you
heard of this before? The Peter principle, which I remember

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my dad explaining to me. Wait, I need to just
interject here for a second. I'm sitting here behind the
microphone and I've kind of got I find myself fidgeting
with what would you.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Call this area right here?

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Shannon the area just below the collar of my I'm
wearing a short sleeve shirt that has two or three buttons.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Up to the neck.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So I don't know what you call like a polo shirt.
Would you call a polo shirt? And it's got two
or three buttons, And I'm find myself sitting here, what
do you see with this shirt? Not the logo on it?
What's wrong with this shirt? Why am I fidgeting with it?
Why did I have such a hard time with this
shirt this morning? Shannon looks like a Chinese medium. It's

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not the size, It's that the buttons are on the
wrong side for right. So normally I can button my
shirts with my right with my right hand, because the
part of the collar with the buttons is on the right,
and the part of the or whatever you call this
vertical part right the buttons are on my right and

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the part of the shirt that has the little slits
that the buttons go into or on the left.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
But this one is backwards, and so it really threw me.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Off kilter this morning, and I find myself continuing to
fidget with it as I'm sitting here behind the microphone.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's a very disconcerting thing.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was told once, and I haven't verified that this
is true, that the buttons are on the opposite side
on women's shirts as for men's shirts. So me, but
I don't think this is a woman's shirt. In fact,
I think with these polos, I don't think they even
make different between men and women. But I just find myself.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Fidgeting with this.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Oh God, you're neurotic, talk show host this morning.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Peter principle.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
My dad told me about the Peter principle at some
point when I was a kid, and I don't remember
what the context was, and Dad might be listening right now,
and I don't think he would remember the context for
this particular thing either, But you know, maybe there was
somebody in the place where he was working who he
thought just wasn't very good at his job or her job.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And the Peter.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Principle is essentially the concept that you rise to the
level of your incompetence, and it actually makes sense, although
some people do better than that. The concept is this,
you're pretty good at a job, so you get promoted.
You're pretty good at that job, so you get promoted again,
and then you're bad at that job, so you don't

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get promoted again, and you end up at the level
of your incompetence. You get promoted to the level of
your incompetence. Now, some people again exceed that. For example,
Joe Biden, right, Joe Biden was an incompetent senator who, nevertheless,
because of the alternative and the mo of the country
at the time, became President of the United States where

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he was where he was arguably the most incompetent president
we've had in one hundred years or something. Right, So
that's the Peter principle. You rise to the level of
your incompetence. And I was thinking of that when I
saw a piece in the Denver Gazette a couple of
days ago Colorado Secretary of State Jenna Griswold joins Democratic

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primary for Attorney General. Now, Jenna Griswold is an untalented
partisan hack who happened to beat the very good Secretary
of State Wayne Williams in an election several years ago
because the mood of Colorado was essentially, you know, suburban

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women were stamping their feet and voting against every Republican
they could find, and they tossed out a lot of
good people and they didn't care who they were electing,
they just voted against the R even more than they
voted for the D. So Jenna Griswold, who really does
didn't ever belong in political office.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It became Secretary of State.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Then she presided over trying to remove Donald Trump from
the ballot, which actually the state Supreme Court upheld that.
But we know that our state Supreme Court is terrible.
The Federal Supreme Court overturned the State Supreme Court unanimously.
All the liberal judges said Jenna Griswold was wrong. So

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she's unethical, she doesn't know the law, she doesn't care
about the law.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And then of course.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
There's that thing where the bios passwords were exposed. Just
to be clear, I don't think there was any real
risk here, but still doesn't mean it wasn't a significant thing.
You had some of these passwords for voting systems that
were exposed in a public of that were available in
a publicly available spreadsheet.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
And it's not just.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
From Griswold's office, but it's not just that. But she
didn't tell anybody, She didn't tell the public. She didn't
know anything about it until Republicans found out about it
and exposed it and then she came out she has
no business being anywhere anywhere in public office.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
But she's going to run for age. And I want
to tell you.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
That whoever wins the Democratic primary for attorney General is
going to be attorney general.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
No Republicans going to win that job.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay, you could pick the best Republican candidate in the state.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
He or she will lose to the Democrat.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
It is very important that all of us, even if
you are a Republican, work together when the time comes
to get a different Democrat other than Jenna Griswald nominated
on the Democratic side to be attorney General. I'm thinking
right now that the best choice is Michael Doherty, the
District Attorney of Boulder. We'll talk about it more when

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the time comes, but Jenna Griswold is an incredible example
of the Peter principle. Maybe the Boxton's say, men, women,
and just have a bunch of different sizes. I just
picked up a shirt. I have a large at home.
This is a it's an I Heart polo shirt. Right,
So I have a gray one at home, and there's
a big iHeart logo on it, you know that red heart,
and then it says iHeart radio below it. I have

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a large at home and it's a little baggy on me,
so I thought i'd get a medium. I went over
to the box over by the boss's office and I
grabbed a medium, and and today's the first day.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I ever wore it. And it's slightly tight on me.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I don't know that it's tight enough that I would
think it's a woman's medium, because I would think that
would be really tight on me. But the buttons are
backwards and so and so. Now now I'm thinking it's
either it's a commie shirt the same way I got
the communist toilet paper at my house, or or it's

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a woman's shirt. So the question then is, if I
believe it's a woman's shirt, do I actually care if
it fits me?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, and I mean, Shannon, if.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
You see me in this shirt, would you say I'm
wearing a woman's shirt or what?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
No, But I am fascinated by the hangar bumps on
your shoulders.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
It was I picked this thing up out of the
box probably six months ago, and it's been sitting on
a hangar the whole time.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Are there really hanger bumps there? Yeah? That's funny. So
I got it but would.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
You say it? Does it look like a woman's.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Shirt or just a shirt?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
You look great? You lost all that weight? Yeah, yeah, here,
you're great. Yeah, I look good and this shirt looks fine.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Will I wear something that I think is hell?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Why not? I guess I'm comfortable with my masculinity. And
it's just buttons on.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
The wrong side. It's not as bad.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
As toilet paper coming down the back of the role.
So I'll probably just I'll probably just stick with it.
Probably just stick with it. Listener question. This is in
the context of what I was talking about in the
last segment of the show, where I mentioned that, no
matter who the Republican candidate is, for probably any statewide

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office Colorado, this is my prediction, and it's not a
very difficult prediction because it's been this way for a
little while, But for probably any statewide office, meaning any
elected office where any voter, every voter in the state
can vote on it. Right, So governor, senator, attorney general, treasurer,

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Secretary of state at large, c regent, and any of
those jobs, any of those jobs, no Republicans gonna win
in Colorado in twenty twenty six and probably not in
twenty twenty eight and a listener asks, how do Republicans

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turn it around? Or can as a can a Republican
run as a Democrat? So I'll deal with the second
one first. You could kind of theoretically sort of try that,
but the Democrats know who the Democrats are, and you
can always go look up it's public information what somebody's
voter registrate. I think, I think you can look up
someboddies voter registration history. But in any case, if you're

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actually gonna run for office as a Democrat, the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Will do all the due diligence on you, and they'll
know who you are.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
And if you're a Republican trying to run as a Democrat,
they'll challenge you in the primary and they'll and they'll
beat you. Right, unless you're gonna spend millions of dollars,
you know, marketing yourself, maybe have a small chance. But
it's very very very unlikely that a Republican or even
a conservative non Republican or libertarian non Republican and non

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Democrat could suddenly become a Democrat and run win. So
I don't think that's going anywhere. So then the then
the question is can Republicans.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Turn it around?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
And the answer is no, not in the short term.
And there's three reasons that Republicans can't turn it around
here in the short term. Number one is due to
the nature of the immigrants into this state.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I'm not talking about the illegal alien immigrants.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm talking about immigration from other states into Colorado. We've
had an enormous influx of Californians. And then I think,
so this is just a theory. Now, Okay, I have
a theory. I've seen a lot of vehicles with Texas
license plates lately, more than I have seen in recent years. Shannon,

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you drive a lot of you Have you noticed that
he's nodding. Yes. My theory is that those are liberals
leaving Texas right the same way the conservatives are leaving Colorado.
When we're getting this kind of self sorting around the country,
some people are just moving because because the regulation and

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the taxes and whatever, and the weather you know, suck,
like people who are leaving New York and you know,
like sixty five year olds who are retiring and moving
to Florida, right or South Carolina or Arizona or somewhere
warmer where the weather is better, but also the politics
are better. But here we've had such an influx, particularly

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of Californians, but also I think of Democrats from other
places that we are a very blue state, and don't
let the voter registration thing full you. It's true that
we have a steadily increasing number of unaffiliated voters, and
you know, decreasing number, maybe a little stable on Democrats,
but they over the last decade, let's say, decreasing number

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of Republicans and Democrats an increasing.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Number of unaffiliated voters.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But do not confuse an unaffiliated voter with a moderate
voter or with a swing voter. The reason you've got
an immense number of unaffiliated voters who are not swing
voters and are not up for grabs. They are some
of them, if they vote, always going to vote Republican,
and others, if they vote, always going to vote Democrat.

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And in Colorado East California, it's way more of the latter.
We have an immense number of unaffiliated voters who were
actually Democrats. Because why bother registering with a party when
you are in a state where being unaffiliated allows you.
If y'all wanted to to mess around in the other
parties primary. And it's not just for Shenanigans, right, it's

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not just for Shnana.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And I'll give you a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right, I've only ever voted for one Democrat in my
entire life, and that was for a local office.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I've never voted for a Democrat for state office.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
And if you want to know, the one Democrat that
I voted for in my whole life was a Rappahoe
County sheriff, Tyler Brown in his re election. Did not
vote for him in the first election because I didn't
think he had the experience.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
To do a good job.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
And then in his first term he did an incredible job.
And I thought to myself, where this dude has earned
my vote?

Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's earned my vote.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And he was a Democrat, but he's not a leftist.
And he went down to the Capitol and and lobbied
and testified against the worst of the leftist bills, against
any defund the police, against fentanyl, decriminalization, decriminalization. He earned
my vote, and I voted for him. That's the only
Democrat I've ever voted for in my life. Now, I

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just mentioned earlier that the untalented, unethical, modestly intelligent Jenna
Griswold is going to run for attorney general. She's got
at least two other Democrats running against her, Crissanta Duran,

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former Speaker of the House State House. I have no
interest in Crissanta Duran holding any further office. And Michael Doherty,
who's been a guest on the show a few times,
Boulder County District Attorney. I'm sure he's well to my
left on most things, but has always struck me as
rational and honest, where Jenna Griswold strikes me as neither
of those things. Now, in my past, I have been

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a registered Libertarian, although not in Colorado. This was many
years ago when I lived in Illinois. In Colorado, I
was for a little while a registered Republican, but have
for most of my years here been unaffiliated.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
If you think about that race, if.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You care about your state, you want to beat Jenna
Griswold in the primary, and if you're registered as a Republican,
you can't cast that vote. So I want to encourage you,
if you are a Republican, even just for tactical purposes,

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make yourself unaffiliated. You don't have to do it today,
you can wait until it's almost time, whatever the deadline
will be before the primaries. You have to do it
by such and such a date in order to be
eligible for the primaries. But change yourself to unaffiliated, get
that Democratic primary ballot, and not just in this race,
but in other races that might have a similar dynamic
going on, where a Democrat is for sure going to

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win the general election, but in the primary there's some
Democrat who is much better than the rest, or some
Democrat who is much worse than the rest, and you
need to try to help the former type and need
to try to stop the latter type. And since you
can do that with either party's ballot, but not both,
you have to pick one voting in the primary. Right,

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if you're an affiliated you can vote in the Republican
primary or the Democratic primary.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
But not both. Get to pick one. You can do
it if you're ONU affiliated.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
And that's why there's so many unaffiliated voters here. There's
there's actually a disincentive to be a member of the party.
All right, So let me get back to let me
get back to the listeners. The listeners question about can
the Republicans turn it around? No, not soon. First, because
there are too many Californians in the state is too blue.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Second, because at least.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
In a year and a half or whenever the midterms
are a little over a year and a half, Donald
Trump will still be president of the United States, and
so so many unaffiliated voters and even some moderate Republicans
in this state cannot stand Donald Trump. And if Donald
Trump is in office, they will vote against every Republican,

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even if it's against their own actual interests, because they
just they see the Republican Party as the Party of Trump,
as enabling Trump, as all this stuff. They hate Trump,
so they will vote against every Republican, just like they
did back in whatever year that was twenty eighteen, I think, yeah,

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twenty eighteen, sorry, twenty eighteen. So that's the other thing.
And then finally here in Colorado, the Republican Party's brand
in Colorado specifically is particularly tarnished because we had this
terrible lying grifter, Dave Williams and his minions running the

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party and they got involved in things like endorsing Republicans
in primaries, and almost every Republican they endorsed in the
primaries lost, But.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
These guys corrupted the party.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Now britt Horn and the new team that just want
election to be The leaders of the Republican Party now
are going to try to turn that around, and I
hope that they will, but it's not something they're gonna
be able to do very quickly. So the answer, can
the Republican Party turn it around in Colorado and win
statewide races?

Speaker 2 (27:32):
The answer is not soon.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Not soon. I'm going to tie a couple of things
together that have been it's been bothering me a little bit,
and I actually posted this on Twitter this morning or
on x and you can go read about It's actually
all in my blog. I actually start my blog today
if you go to Roscommisky dot com and click on
the Tuesday blogcast.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I start my blog with this concept.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And I'm gonna do this in a big picture sort
of way before I jump into the current story.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So let me just back up and do the macro.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Historically, Republicans have had some decent amount of respect. Conservatives
have had some decent amount of respect for experts. Now
I don't really necessarily mean academics and professors, but for experts,
And historically I think that if somebody went to one
of the best schools got a fancy degree, your average

(28:32):
conservative your average Republican would think that that's a positive
for that person and makes them at least somewhat more credible.
Nobody's automatically one hundred percent credible, except maybe the Pope
if you're Catholic. But other than that, you know, you've
got a little bit of doubt about everybody.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
But expertise meant something.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
The reputational value of expertise has been somewhere between damaged
and destroyed in recent years by two main things, one
much bigger than the other.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
The biggest one, by far is covid.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Anthony Fauci, you, by the way, got his medical degree
at the very prestigious Cornell University Medical School, spent a
couple of years lying to us about almost everything, but
not only just lying to us, and not only you know,
in endorsing shutting down the economy and endorsing shutting down schools,
and endorsing wearing masks when there was no data, and

(29:31):
endorsing the six foot you know, stay six feet from
someone else when there was no data behind that. Right,
The biggest, my biggest problem with Fauci by far, because
let's just assume him for a minute. He was well
intended and was just trying to make sure the fewer
people got sick, and he was willing to make stuff
up because he was trying to save lives. Okay, all right,
not great for a public servant, not great. But what

(29:55):
I will never forgive him for, and what you should
never forgive him for, is encouraging scientists, actual scientists, to
lie about the origin of COVID. I always found it
a very strange thing the and we may never know
for sure, by the way, but the so called lablink

(30:17):
always made much more sense, just as a matter of
logic than the wet lap. What are the chances that
a brand new virus that was a mutation of a
virus carried in bats would show up for the first
time in one of the only places in the world

(30:38):
that researches that kind of virus. Just a coincidence that
it happened in Wuhan, and we're supposed to think it
came from a pangulin in the market. And doctor Fauci
got all these scientists together who privately were saying, ah,
probably a lablink or could have been a lablak, and
had them publicly come out with a paper saying it

(30:59):
couldn't be a lie. Laque that did incredible damage to
the reputation of experts, and deservedly so they deserve everything
that happens to them. The other thing that really, I
think continues to trash the reputation of experts is climate change.
People who really pay attention to what's going on know

(31:22):
that there are so many lies and exaggerations coming from
scientists and I'm holding up my fingers for air quotes
here who want to make sure that they get the
next grant from the Ford Foundation or the Rockefeller Foundation,
or the MacArthur Genius Award or you know some other recognition,
or more importantly, money from left wing foundations. And so

(31:43):
they make stuff up, and they torture the data until
it says what they want.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
And people who are paying.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Attention to this know that these experts have been corrupted,
and it damages the reputation of expertise as it should
as it should, and it made conservatives very, very skeptical,
and understandably so. Doctor Fauci himself did more damage to

(32:11):
how many Americans, but I think especially conservatives think of
experts than anything else I can think of in my
entire life.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Now, let me give you one other quick example.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Robert F.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Is a liar and a grifter, almost to the extent
of Dave Williams.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Not quite but actually probably more. I shouldn't say not quite.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Actually RFK Junior is probably way more harmful than Dave Williams,
because Dave Williams only destroyed a party in one state.
RFK Junior spent years telling parents not to vaccinate their kids.
And I'm talking about before COVID, all right, he spent
and he either should have known or did know that
the stuff that he was relying on was absolute junk

(32:59):
science even call it science was just junk. But he
wanted the clicks and the donations and the fame of
saying that vaccines were harmful and he didn't care how
many kids he hurt to get it. I will never
forgive him. And now that we've got this measles outbreak

(33:23):
going on mostly against mostly among an unvaccinated Mennonite population.
And to be clear, I'm not saying that the Mennonite
population isn't vaccinating their kids because of politics. It's more
of a religious thing. It's they're not following, They're not
intentionally following RFK.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Right, it's just that's the way they live.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Now, we had the second child to die from measles
this year, and RFK Junior has now said, and.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm going to quote, the.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is
the MMR vACC Wait what I'll say it again, The
most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is
the MMR vaccine. Dude, you spent twenty years telling parents
not to give their kids the vaccine. Oh my gosh,

(34:19):
this guy what an unethical I mean, he's right now
after spending most of his adult life telling parents to
risk harm to their kids.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Are you kidding me? So this again in the context.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Of experts or should be experts, destroying any reason to
trust them, and what occurred to me about this? I'm
gonna do this quickly because we got a very good
guest coming up to the next segment. It's Peter Navarro.
Peter Navarro, Donald Trump's trade advisor, a long time Democrat,
ran for Congress four times as a Democrat, as far

(34:56):
as I know, never had a private sector job. He
was all ways a professor. Since when do conservatives trust
professors with no real world experience to be making policy?
And on a pure IQ basis. I'm sure Navarro is smart.
I'm sure RFK is smart on a pure IQ basis,

(35:17):
And Navarro has a PhD in economics from Harvard, And
even I, who am inclined to give a little bit
of benefit of the doubt to people who went to
fancy schools and studied stuff for a long time, a
little bit. It's more than a bit strange to hear

(35:40):
Naga folks, who are the most anti expert group there
is in America today. They don't trust experts. They don't
care what your fancy degree was. They know you will
lie to them regardless of your degree. And they also
don't trust people who have never had an actual private
sector job. Are now out there defending Peter Navarro by saying,

(36:03):
but he has a Harvard PhD. Are you kidding me?
Pick a position and stick with it. I mentioned to
you this morning that I'm frustrated with the shirt that
I'm wearing because the buttons are backwards. They are on
the wrong side on this polo shirt, which usually means
that it's a woman's shirt, and so on the tag
it says M slash M, which I thought meant men's medium.

(36:25):
But I think what it actually means is M for
medium in French and then M for the equivalent word
for medium in English, M for medium in English and
M for the equivalent of medium in French, and somewhere
else on the label it does say woman's and I
didn't notice it. So it's a woman's shirt that I'm wearing.
And now I don't know what to do because it
fits me pretty well. And so now people are asking me, Ross,

(36:49):
now that you're wearing a woman's shirt today, does it
mean you can like go to a woman's bathroom? Does
it mean I'm supposed to switch from him to they
or z or whatever is the thing these day? And
if somebody and if somebody uses the wrong pronouns on me,
can I have them charged with a crime? Joining us
to talk about that actually rather serious issue, despite my

(37:10):
silly lead in is my friend Corey DeAngelis, who is
Senior Fellow at the American Culture Project. He is one
of the nations leading proponents of school choice and one
of the most effective people in the country, which would
mean in the world on actually getting school choice expanded. Corey,
good to talk to.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
You, Hey, Ross, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, glad to do it.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
So I wanted to talk to you a little bit
about this bill that's up in the state legislature, House
Bill thirteen twelve entitled Legal Protections for Transgender Individuals. I
know this is something that's come to your attention, So
what's on your mind.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Yeah, I mean it's authoritarian overreach. It's the way for
the Democrats to insert the state between other people's children
and the parent. It's an abuse of the parent child relationship,
and it's a form of socialism. It basically classifies the
misgendering as child abuse. And if you don't affirm, you know,

(38:11):
their new gender, the you know, the delusions of a
small child, then one you could be labeled as a
child abuser, but two you can have your child taken
away from you. And this bill got rammed through the
House on Sunday, which is very ironic that they chose
a special Sunday to do this in a day that's
interfering with a lot of people's faith on this very topic.

(38:35):
They all the Democrats voted for, all the Republicans against it.
It passed through thirty six to twenty, and the Democrats
invoked what you guys call in Colorado rule, sixteen to
silence all debate on the issue on final passage. So
they know this is unpopular, They know this is a
bad idea. They know the debt that the Republicans might

(38:55):
win some votes on this issue, so they shut out
all debates so that that would reduce the likelihood that
there would be viral clips circulating about conversations. They know
they can't defend this insanity, so they're ramming it through.
It's now going to the Senate, and I don't have
a lot of confidence that the Democrats in the Senate
are going to do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
So let me just share with listeners a couple things
from the text of the bill itself. And this is
from the summary part of the bill at the state
legislative website. So it's not a reporter writing a reporter's
view of it. It's not Corey's view of it. This
is straight from the legislation. Section two provides that when
making child custody decisions and determining the best interest of
a child for purposes of parenting time, a court shall

(39:37):
consider dead naming, which means, let's say you have a
kid who was born Joey, and now he wants to
go by Jill. That if you keep calling the kid Joey,
that's dead naming, misgendering. If Joey wants to go by Jill,
and you as the parent. Again, remember we're talking about
the parent, call your I don't care what the age is.

(39:57):
You can pick the age. Call your X year old
son he, but he wants to be called she that
a court can actually consider that or must consider that
when it comes to custody decisions. It's And by the way,
let me just make one other point. I don't know
if Corey knows my views on this. I am. I

(40:18):
am not anti trans in any way. I don't I
want people to live with whatever life makes them happy.
I'm not one of these people who talks about trands
as being a mental illness. I frankly, you know, I
love Corey, but I didn't like the use of the
word delusion there. And but parents are parents, and you know,
when you're talking about an eight year old or ten

(40:38):
year old or twelve year old, I mean, these are
not fully formed brains and to have these So anyway,
enough with that, and then the other thing, Corey and
you touched on it, and I just want to make
it explicit here. They're also saying in the law that
if if you did, you know, dead naming intentionally and
repeatedly or using the wrong pronoun, that could become a

(41:02):
criminal discrimination charge. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah, that I only touched on one part of the
bill that I thought was probably the worst part. But
it goes further than that. They they yeah, you can
punish business businesses for misgendering or dead naming because it
becomes a discriminatory act under this bill if schools, including
charter schools which are independently operated but they're labeled as

(41:26):
public schools in Colorado, if they adopt the dress code
that it cannot take a gender into account. So you
cannot have a boys dress code in a girl's dress code.
And there's other aspects of the bill as well, but
the biggest part is this, you know, subverting the will

(41:48):
of the parents. And yeah, if you have you know,
a if you're a man, you have a wife that
disagrees with you politically or whatever it is, then you
have a kid together in Colorado and you guys get
into a disagree about this issue of the dead naming
and misgendering, Well that your wife can take your kid
away from you and the courts it says shall use

(42:09):
that in the decision. So it's it's an insane place
to raise a family, and hopefully I think the Democrats
should lose some votes over these kinds of issues. I
think that's why they stopped debate on the issue on Sunday.
They also passed the bill for taxpayer funded abortion. So
you know, we can talk all about, you know, whether

(42:30):
we should have abortional or not, but to have taxpayers
fund things that they vehemently may disagree with, I think
that crosses the line. And they also passed the bill
to mandate insurance providers to cover quote unquote gender affirming
care on the same day. On Sunday, they stopped debate
on that issue as well, and that includes sex change
surgeries and puberty blockers. And Republicans tried to introduce an

(42:56):
amendment to exclude children and said, Okay, let's just have
this for adults. Let's leave the kids out of this.
The Democrats stopped that amendment, so it applies to kids
as well.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah, kids and adults are very different and must be
thought of differently in these conversations, just the same way
that they're thought of differently in conversations about about drinking
alcohol or smoking, or voting or going to war. Right,
kids are different. Parents have responsibilities to kids. Government should
should not be replacing parents, and this is what Democrats

(43:29):
try to do so frequently.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I'm just about out of time here, Corey.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But you don't that often take such an interest in politically,
in state level political issues that aren't school choice related.
I'm glad you're taking a big interest in this. Are
you going to be trying to do anything to use
the reach that you have, let's say, to motivate people

(43:53):
to contact state senators here, which I also encourage people
to do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Absolutely, and I'm already doing that on social media amplifying
these clips. I think that's why the Democrats started to
shut down debate on final passage, because they saw that
things were going viral, not just from my account, others
as well. But you know, one of the things that
happened in committee was that Representative Yara Zokai. I think
that's how you say her last name. She let the
mask lit because she compared parent groups to hate groups,

(44:20):
doubled down and even compared them to the KKK. I mean,
that's just that's the stretch too far. I think parents
are gonna be pissed off about that as well. And
look at the bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it
works out for them. Hopefully it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Cordy Angelas senior fellow with the American Culture Project. Follow
him on x formerly known as Twitter at d Angelus
Cory D E A N G E l I S
c O R E Y. You can also find all
this stuff on my blog today at Roschimisky dot com
with links to Corey.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Thanks for your time as always, Corey, great talking to you.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Thanks, Rov, talk to you.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Sim All right, we'll.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Take a quick break. We'll be rite back.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Yeah, you could be not wearing your shirt like the
gymnastics photo you have up at Rosskominsky dot com.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
That's that's pretty good. What is that photo? I don't
even want to say. You can tell him it's.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
You know, you shirtless doing almost the the was it
the iron cross?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't know what that stuff is called.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Gymnastics move with the with the rings for the guys
where they hold their arms out, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, So apparently a listener named Jason has a secret
camera camera in my in my home gym that uh
and just for the record, I don't have a home gym,
but he has one in there anyway, And so he
got a picture of me doing some exercise and it's
up on the blog at Roskiminski dot com. That's what
that's what dragon is. I mean, your hair looks great

(45:36):
talking about I mean, look, it really does look great.
There's not enough chest hair in that picture. That's true.
Farm forearmor. Yeah, yeah, generally yeah, I mean I'm basically sasquatch.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I mean, you know, dolphin, but yeah you're not You're
not dolphin. I mean you know, yeah, all right speaking.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Uh, okay, this comes from the of course they do files.
This is a headline from the Wall Street Journal from
a few days ago. Uber and DoorDash want no tax
on tips to include their drivers. Uh huh. Uber and
DoorDash are pressing Republican lawmakers to expand President Trump's no
tax on tips promise beyond employees to include independent contractors

(46:21):
who drive ride share vehicles and deliver food. The leading
tax free tips proposal from Senator Ted Cruz and Representative
Verm Buchanan from Florida would let many restaurants and casino
workers claim the deduction.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
But Uber and other ride share drivers.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Are typically independent contractors, and this wouldn't apply to them
at least as the bill is currently written. And of course,
you know, of course that's what they of course that's
what they want, right.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Who wouldn't want that?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Who wouldn't want no tax on tips for your people?
It also it also takes a lot of the pressure
off of you as far as what you have to
pay your people in base salary. So you know, I
don't really want to spend a lot more time on
this particular thing. I'll just mention briefly, I'm very very
much against this no tax on tips thing, right to

(47:16):
the extent that people pay tax on tips. Remember that
many of the people who get tips get some of
it in cash, and I'm sure most of them are
not reporting all of their income anyway. Most of them
aren't in a high tax bracket. I know there are
some tipped workers. You know, if you're a waiter at Shanahan's,
you're probably making a pretty good living. But most people

(47:38):
who get tips are not in a high income bracket,
so they're already not paying a lot of tax, and
it will cause employers to do everything they can to
reclassify somebody's earnings as tips rather than wages and at
the same time lower the wages. Right, so maybe the

(48:00):
after tax for the employee is a little bit higher,
but the expense to the employer is a little bit lower,
if you follow me there. And this is just an
unfair reallocation of income tax responsibility from people who don't

(48:20):
have jobs where you earn tips, from people who do
have jobs where you'ren tips to people who don't write.
Most of us out here in the world aren't in
tipped jobs. So what this plan would do is it
would just say, Okay, those of you who are in
you sort of regular non tip jobs, you're gonna have
more responsibility to pay off a federal debt than people

(48:41):
who happen to earn tips. And we're going to add
to the debt by not taxing that. And it's all
populous nonsense. Designed I'll tell you exactly what it's designed for.
It's designed to get the votes of unionized workers in Nevada.
That's what this is all about. It's what it's always
been all. Yeah, you can expand it and try to

(49:02):
get the votes of some of these people in other
places too.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But that's what it was really about.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm against it, but of course Uber and DoorDash wanted
to I'd want it that way. Also, last very quick thing.
You people might be setting themselves ross. Of course you're
saying that this wouldn't benefit you and it could possibly
harm you. But since it wouldn't benefit you, you're complaining
about it. But I would just like to point out
to you something important. When Donald Trump implemented the restriction

(49:29):
on the salt tax the state and local tax deduction
in his prior tax reform in twenty seventeen, I think
it was that cost me a lot of money. Not
being able to deduct property taxes and state income taxes.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
That cost me a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
But I supported it as a matter of principle, and
as a matter of principle, I oppose no tax on tips.
I am so happy to have my next guest joining
me in studio. Jamie Lisso his back in studio with me,
and I'm sure you know him well from the Gut
Failed Show where he appears at least once a week
and probably my wife's favorite person on that show more

(50:08):
than gut Failed himself. And although kat timp is pretty
high on our list as well, and and you've probably
seen him.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
At comedy works as well.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
And first, let me just say thanks for doing this,
because you're, you know, you're pretty big name at this point.
You don't necessarily have to do this, and you don't
have a show this weekend, so you didn't really have
to come in and hang out with me.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
So I'm really glad you did. Oh happy to be here, man.
I remember very fondly my last appearance on here, and
we were here for a few days.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
And I go, let me swing by.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
We did Comedy Works Downtown on Sunday, and I have
I have comedy work South coming up in December. People
sometimes go I already made plans. I go, how about this?
How about eight months? Notice what's your excuse?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
That's right, and that's it's linked on the ball at
Roscomminsky dot com. You can go to comedyworks dot com
as well and find your tickets for this and every
and and and everything. I got so many different things
I want to talk about, But first tell tell listeners
what you were telling me about your experience performing at
Comedy Works Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Oh dude, I've been doing comedy for so long. Like
I did this tonight show in two thousand and one.
That's how long I've been doing this. And I'm not
kidding you. This club I've I've heard about I've always
done South, right, I think I've always done South. When
I came here and we go, let's do a show downtown,
I kept hearing about this room any here, things and
things don't live up to expectations. You have stuff like that,
and my goodness. I go up on stage and I

(51:27):
did one joke and it was the biggest, longest laugh
I have ever gotten since I started comedy. I will
say I did notice my pants were down, and so
I don't know if that was related, but honestly, but
it was like a palpable like I could feel the energy.
It's crazy, like it's an unbelieve there's a magic. They
can never change locations because there's something magical about that place.

(51:49):
And I love Denver and I'm this makes I might
so not a little ignorant here. When I first came
to Denver, I called the club and I go, hey,
I'm just checking out there tomorrow, and they always want
to warn you you should bring oxygen, and I go listen,
I'm not the most famous community in the world. But
I feel like that's something the club should provide. I
feel like it's all around us. You know, I didn't
understand the oxygen thing, and and I got I don't

(52:12):
do that well with the elevation. Really, you can tell
I got those tanks and stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah for real? Yeah yeah, the little portable thing with
the green plastic.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Top I got. We got a bunch of them in
the hotel room.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Wow. Yeah. Do you use it well? I mean when
you were on stage? I mean most most of times
people bring out a bottle of water. Do you bring
out an oxygen thing? I don't bring an auxton, but
I do. It's like ten years ago it would have
been a bong backstage. Now we're passing around O two too.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You know, uh huh, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
All right, So last time, last time you were here,
I got to meet your lovely and talented fiance. And
I don't know if I'm allowed to use her name
in public, so I won't say her name.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
And I wanted to know if you're married yet? So
are not married yet? It's June seventh. She's with me here,
she will come with she look at my calendar this
is I feel like this is important to tell the
people of Colorado and Denver. She looks at my calendar
and she goes, if she sees somewhere that's gonna be fun,
she goes, I want to come, And she's not Colorado.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
She's been with me this entire tour. We've been very excited.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
And then she'll go like, oh, worry at next week
and I go Oklahoma City and she goes, Okay, i'll
see when you get back.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
But we're loving it.

Speaker 5 (53:15):
I have a kind of a radio this sort of
a radio question, like one of those like you know,
like general, like what people's thoughts are. I'd love to
get your so my fancy she's like a pretty girl, right,
And I feel like the most common thing that I
hear from fans or what I know, part of it's
like your comedians, and people will say things to you
that might be insulting, but they think, like, ah, he's

(53:36):
a comedian, like it won't bother I often hear and
I'd like your take on it. People will say, oh,
you outkicked your coverage. Have you heard that praise? Yes,
if you heard that, would do you think that is
a compliment or an insult, yes, because I feel like it's.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I so people say the same thing about me. I
also have a good looking blonde wife.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
And what do you feel when they what is your
first feeling like? Do you feel like a defensiveness or
do you go like, oh, that's nice.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Right, Because you can say you're saying that I'm not
either good looking enough or something else enough to deserve that.
I take it as a compliment, like I've done something
well enough in life that that woman found me interesting, attractive,
whatever enough to say Yeah, So I take it as
a compliment.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I think that's the right way to frame it. And
this guy came up the other night, and I've heard this.
I hear this all the time. Whenever I post a
photo of me and her, they go, oh, she's AI.
You know, you've out catched your coverage. And this really
drunk guy came up when he was with his wife
and they were like spelling, drinks all over the table
and all this stuff, and the guy goes he just
starts going, you at kicked your coverage, which I looked
it up.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And it's like a football reference. I'm not a big
sports guy.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Uh hu.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Maybe everyone knows that, and then I looked at him
and I didn't say it, but I thought to myself, Man, it.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Looks like you got a safety you know what I say.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And so I feel like that brutal.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Was that the joke you opened with on Sunday? I
don't know that. I don't stage.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I don't know if I've done that one on stage.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So okay, I was actually wondering about this is the
same way you were wondering a thing. So, yeah, your
wife is good or soon to be wife is good looking,
and she's like a doctor. I think that's part of
its Yeah, she's very smart. She has a real presence
in a room. And one of the things I've wondered

(55:28):
is whether people will say things to you about her
or about things you might be doing with her that
are really inappropriate, but they think you'd be fine with
it because you're a comedian all the time.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
And I will tell you, do you know when you
do I don't know what the radio equiveland is, but
when you do comedy, you often hear like people go, oh,
say something funny, she goes, you know, doctors like that's
a huge thing where it's like, hey, can you look
at this thing. First time we ever met was at
the Denver Comedy Club. Was the first time I met.
I was with Erica, and she was telling me, like,
are you serious, like people ask you for like work,
and she goes, yeah, it happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
I go up on stage, I do my set, and
I come off of stage into the green room and
the MC has his sock and shoe off and he's
asking Erica to examine his foot in the green room
of the kind of.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
I swear to God, like, go, oh my god, this
is an example.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
This is like her hey be funny took the comedian Yeah,
like the doctor thing.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
We were talking a little bit about travel before, and
you mentioned just in passing about some travel that you've
done with your fiance. So we are you talking about
what we just talked about or some other travel that
you've done.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Yeah, So we we have a She was at a
place in Boise where she practiced medicine, and then after
we started, you know, we feel like we got along
and we got engaged in stuff. Now she does tell
them medicine. So it's also she comes on the Live
Together now we live together. Yeah, and uh and she
is still the place in Alaska where my kids, where
my kids are and stuff. But yeah, we live together,
and she does this like right now, she's she's seeing

(57:01):
patients in a hotel room and she kicks me out
and I go do stuff and it's it's kind of
working out at tell.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
The medicine is the way of the future. For sure.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
There's it's like, uh, yeah, they get you don't have
to try.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
You don't have to if you have the flu, you
don't have to expose people to your symptoms.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
I feel I feel like it really is the the way.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
So again, I don't want to say anything that I'm
not supposed to be saying. I think I think I
remember what her specialty is, and it would seem to
me that that specialty is one where, from time to
time you might really need to be in person with
the room and like check some things.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Yeah, so she does have like a place where if
she needs to see them in person, she can, but
a lot of by the way what she does is
I think what we'll call it women's health, okay, right,
which I feel like that's the best I remember when
I met her and she said women's health.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I oh, that's so much better than men's health, you
know what I mean. I just don't.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
I don't need that kind of competition, just day in
and day after saying oh I could have had that one,
you know, new iPhone, Then they come out with a
bigger one, you know that type of thing.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I think I have a.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Vague recollection of seeing a thing where you were talking
with her and she was telling me about her work,
and then you made some comment about.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I don't know, you thought it was a little bit exciting. Yeah,
this comes up a lot. This is why no one
gives me in the room when she's doing appointments, you.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Know, right, Oh my gosh, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
So what else? What else are you doing these days? Like?
Are you doing any not gut filled but like special projects.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
It's funny I have this. I'm so excited about this project.
I'm not one hundred percent sure if I'm allowed to
talk about it, but I'll do it vaguely. It's this weekend. Actually,
I'm going to New York to shoot a It's a
new game show that's already picked up.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
It's coming out. I just don't know how much I'm
allowed to say about it? Are you the MC? I
am like the It's almost like there's.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
A host to someone you would know who he is
for sure, and then there's two comedians that are in
every opiodisode.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I wish it's and it is one of the best concepts.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I have ever heard.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
It was the most excited I've ever been for a
project when I got the email, and I wish. I
hate to do this, to do like the teaser that
I can't pay off, but it is such a cool concept.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
It's sort of like, uh, I don't know, I've never
heard anything like it.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
And so I'm doing that. I'm doing that.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
It's going to be on I don't know if I'm
allowed to say the channel, but it'll be announced like
in a week, Okay, everybody will know.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
When when it's announced it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
If there's sort of interesting behind the scenes stuff to
talk about, maybe you can do a hit with me
by phone or zoom.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I'd love to man promote the thing a little bit.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I would love to.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
I will find out if I'm allowed to talk about
call you after refilm or something, because it's really cool
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
It's a cool concept. Yeah, that that sounds that sounds
really really great. So how is Guttfeld treating I don't
mean the person, How's how's that show treating you? Do
you do? You dig it? And is it? What's it
like for someone who does what you do to do
the same thing over and over so often in the
same place? Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
What's that like? I would say the most excited.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
The reason I think Gutfeld is my favorite part of
my job is because like when I did the Tonight show,
they it took a I think it took almost six
months for them to approve my set, Like they see
you and they oh, you're funny, change this word, do this,
and you're doing a four and a half minute sets
and did all this build up and you do it?
And on Gutfeld, you are doing brand new material in

(01:00:25):
front of four million people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So I think that is like one of the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Most I get a lot of anxiety, like every time
next week will be my one hundred and thirty fifth appearance. Wow,
there's not a day that I'm on where I'm not like,
can I do it again? Can we pull this off again?
Because it's doing like almost fifteen minutes, because you're doing
five topics, three jokes of topics, fifteen jokes. I got
to write two backups in case Greg says the same
joke I wrote or his writers. Yeah, on a premise,

(01:00:48):
So you're writing, like, you know, twenty five jokes and
then just walking out there and doing it for the
very first It's like, you know, like an open mic
is where you try it out, but this is on
a very big stage. And so the excitement level of
doing like a brand new joke or doing like an
ad lib on that show is it's the best. And
I think like the response from like all the people
they came to my downtown show, thank you for selling

(01:01:09):
it out Denver was I think they relate to you
because you're hanging out. You're not just going ice cream's weird,
you know, like you're they know who you are, and
I'm like this, you know, I'm sort of this character.
I'm like this this which is actually me, like this
divorced dad from uh, you know, Alaskan stuff. By the way,
I had a lot of people when I started publicly saying,
oh I'm engaged now, people not joking saying You're gonna

(01:01:31):
ruin everything. You're like this Rodney Dangerfield guy, and you're
this loser and we like you because you're this underdog.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
You can't be dating this doctor. You're gonna ruin it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
And my response is always, I feel like Rodney who
was my favorite comic, so I got to meet him
a bunch of times. Really, I feel like at the
end he's so funny, but at the end, when he
is on Carson, hey I get no respect. Yeah, I go,
this is your fortieth appearance. You're getting respect, You're getting
a little.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Bit of respect, you're selling out theaters.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
I feel like we would have accepted him if he
was like, hey, I'm getting a good amount of respect.
I'm now respected, And so I feel like it's okay
to develop a character into something different.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Okay, So I got a lot of things to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
First of all, Rodney Dangerfield was my first girlfriend's uncle.
And I want to say his real name was something
like Jack Cohen. Yeah, yeah, you got it, something like that.
Atlee Jack a nice Jewish boy and what an unbelievable comic.
And you know, even you know, obviously he's passed away,
but young young people who will never see him live
can still kind of get to love him through you know,

(01:02:33):
Caddy Shack and back to school and all of this.
He's just incredible, really really incredible. Okay, back to the
Gutfeld thing. I'm very interested in your in what in
the business of what you do and how you do
what you do. And by the way, if you're joining
just now we're talking with Jamie Lisso who's playing it

(01:02:53):
Comedy works out at the Landmark, You've got plenty of
advanced notice because usually when Jamie's here, like the show's
that night, you got eight months notice. That's right, December
fourth through six, that Comedy works Out at the Landmark.
You can go to Comedyworks dot com or you can
go to my website at Roskimisky dot com. So obviously
you know the topics they're gonna be discussed on on

(01:03:15):
the gut Felt Show. You all plan that stuff out
in advance, just like the five, doesn't it. It would
be dumb not to plan the topics in advance. You
gotta but you can't know. Well I shouldn't say you can't.
I assume you don't know exactly what the other people
are gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yeah, no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
So you've got to write jokes based on kind of
how you think the conversation is gonna go or does
that not matter? And you're only thinking about your thoughts
on the topic. How do you write? How do you
do that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
So I'm very lucky because I'm not as smart as
any of those people, and so it's like I was saying,
one hundred and thirty episodes, I don't think I've ever
made a point on the show. Like I feel like
the difference between me where I don't have to worry
if there's if I'm on with another comic I've I'm
with like Joe mackew before, who was like one of
my favorite comics. It's a little trickier because he's also
like a joke first guy, and our minds might go

(01:04:07):
to the same place, and in that case, you got
to double up your jokes. You got to go, like,
what if Joe says this one? Yeah, I gotta have
twice as many. But I feel like my default has
always been sometimes I'm like, I have a really great
point about this topic, but I think I have a
really good joke, and I always tell the joke.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I go.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
I feel like everyone's making really good points on that channel.
Why do they need me to make another point?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
So I feel like my default being joke first and
sort of making it like trying to find an angle
that no one else will find. Is that's the escape
room that you're trying to solve, like every day is
to go. Sometimes I come up with when I go,
there is no way and it's gonna take it in
this direction.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
And sometimes I do that because no one's gonna mention.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
The divorced dad ex wife Alaska angle because that's my
that's kind of my thing. And so I feel like
going comedy first has really helped me. Yeah, and dude,
I write, we get the topics at eleven am, and
then we go on the show at five thirty pm.
I write the entire time, like I sit at a
coffee shop waiting for the email to show up, and
if it's ten minutes late, I go, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Like what's happening? And the minute it shows up, I
write for an hour.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
Then I go to a cold plunge saun a place
and I have a waterproof notebook and I do it
every gutfold and I do a cold plunge, write a
couple jokes, saun a couple jokes, and then at like
four o'clock. I have two comedians I call at separate times.
I run all the jokes by them and they'll be like,
oh that one you need more contexts. I've heard that
one before, and I go, okay, So I have this thing.
I schedule these two half hour calls, so I have

(01:05:30):
like a very I take it very seriously, like the
fact that they had me on there, I take very seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Okay. So this next question, to promise was not sarcasm.
Why who is willing to take that much time every
week to go through your.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Jokes with you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
You don't need to name them, but that good friends
that they're willing to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Or yeah, good friends. It's a paid gig, not like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
A gig that will you know, will you pay them?
I do? I do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yeah, after my friends a little bit of cash.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
That then answers that question then, because there's a lot
of time, yeah, to do that if you're going to
go do a thing. One time he said, hey, you know,
can you look at these jokes? Okay, but every week? Yeah,
it's a lot that It is a lot. So wait,
Cold Plunge tell me about this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
Oh dude, So the Cold Plunge, it's I think it's
the only natural way to increase like epinephrine, adrenaline, you know,
all that, all those good hormon I'm missing the key one.
I can't remember it up, thank you very much. It's
like the only way to naturally and sustain increase your
dopamine without a crash, because you can increase it with
like you know, coffee makes your dopamine work better. But

(01:06:34):
there's all these different things you could do, but it's
like the ultimate way. It's like a sustained dopamine release,
And to me it is I don't know. I like,
if I don't cold plunge for a week, I start
to get a little sad. I start to be a
little bit negative. Really, But this cold plunge man combined
with you know, it's a huge uh. I don't know
if you know Tucker Carlson at all, but like so
I get a weird this is really random. But like

(01:06:55):
I'm sitting in Boise idahelps and Rob Schneider calls me,
who's my friend that we did the Netflix TV show?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And he goes, what do you do? He goes, what
are you doing for the next three days?

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
And I go, I'm in boise And he goes, I
am sitting with Tucker Carlson and I'm on tour with him,
and he goes, I just found out my daughter has
a thing I gotta go to. I'm gonna I have
to cancel these shows on him, and I feel terrible.
And he's like, could I you know, like we're just
talking about you. He goes, could I tell him you
you would do him? And I'm like, oh, are you
kidding me? And so twenty four hours later, I'm on

(01:07:23):
a private jet with Tucker Carlson and I don't I
don't know if you know me. I don't you know.
My seat on the way here on the airplane flushed,
and so I mean, this is this is a very
different situation, oh man. And I was wondering, I had
heard all these things about Tucker, and I wonder what
we'll talk about on the plane. Will it be politics,
We'll be what are Yeah? For probably three hours we
discussed cold plunges and saunas. Tucker's like big into up

(01:07:46):
in his place in Maine. He's been like he's a
big saunic guy. Like every morning he takes wood like
he has an actual wood burning sauna. Yeah, And the
same way he goes, I need to do this, like
this is my thing. I gotta get up, take this
time to myself.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Sauna.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It's a it's a game changer. I don't know if
you've ever saun it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I've sawn it. I've not cold plunged, yeah, the cold shrinkage. Yeah,
and just the what do they call it, the mammalian
dive reflex where you go, yeah, yeah, did that happen
the moment you get in or do you get used
to it after a while where you can get in
and you don't have that reaction anymore. If you jump in,
it's going to be the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
If you stay for like a minute, your body sort
of desensitizes, yeah, and you can acclimate to get Like
if you don't do it for a couple of weeks
and you know, you go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Back, you're like, well it's so cold. But if you
do it every day, it's uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
It's been a game changer for me, like I can't
do I was at the Tropicana years ago and Tropicana
is one of those where you start it's fourteen shows,
two shows a night, you sort of start questioning your
whole life if things aren't going exactly as planned, and
I remember they I was like, I need a cold plunge,
and I would. I would take a king sized pillowcase
and filled up with ice from the ice machine and

(01:08:53):
made a cold plunge in my bathtub to sort of
get through the week. And it would maybe like thirty
minutes to fill it up with ice. And one time
the housekeeper like drained it and I was like, you
just screwed me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Over man, You've been doing this a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah. But since you can do that, since you can
handle that cold water, I'm thinking maybe you could be
an avy seal.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
I could maybe do just that part of It's just
just that very.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Part of it. All right, we're out of touch. To
two very quick things. A listener says, there's a British
television show called Would I Lie to You? That is
exactly in the format that you just described. I'm not
going to ask you if that has to do with
your show. I'm just sharing that with you. And then
a listener my wife was on there, she said, yes,
I would my ex wife X wife ex wife, right.
And then so last quick thing, I wouldn't pick this

(01:09:40):
shirt out of a box over by the boss's desk.
Because I had a large and was a little too
big and this is a medium, and I put it
on this morning, and I'm messing with him, like the
buttons are on the wrong side, which normally means it's
a woman's shirt. And then a colleague checked the label
and sure enough it's a woman's shirt. And now a
listener says, as Jamie, if I should keep wearing this shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Honest to god, I'm gonna defend you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
We walked in here and Mel said to me from
the club, She goes, I love the bloss that you're
wearing today, and uh so I would hang on to it,
and uh and I feel like that's for sure a
man skirt that you're wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
See, I'm just going good. I'm gonna say one one
last thing. As a guy who gets lots of comedians
coming through, uh, I kind of put them in two categories.
One is people who are sort of not really very
funny when you're talking to them, but write incredible jokes
and they say they do incredible comedy sets. And the
other people who are naturally funny and write great jokes.

(01:10:35):
And that was an example of Jamie being the latter category.
Really funny on the fly and I and I dig it.
Thanks so much for coming in all my best to
your to your fiance and and and have a great wedding.
I probably might or might not talk to you before then. Yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna call you about that show. I'm a call

(01:10:56):
because I feel like that was mean of me too.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
It's a great tease.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
So when you're watching level news and they're like, there's
a meteor coming to some city, and then they go
commercial and you're like, but thanks man, no my pleasure.
I remember being on here before and I was like,
this is a great way to start the day. Will
come and say Hi, Yeah, I didn't get you zoo
tickets this time, but uh zoo zoo.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
I forgot about all the zoo stuff. What's the good
one Cheyenne Mountains, right, that's right, it's down in the springs.
Next time you have a corporate thing in the Springs
will start you out out. We love the zoo. We
love the zoo. Thank you for those tickets. Jamie Lisso
is playing it Comedy Works South at the Landmark in December.
Go to Comedyworks dot Comedy get your tickets or Rosskiminski
dot com. I get links to all this. We'll be

(01:11:34):
right back. Funny dude. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. I
hope you did.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
I'm surprised you didn't compliment you on your heels.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
You. Oh, I'm just gonna be a good sport about
all this, because if I'm not, you're the one everyone's
getting up on the radio. Everyone's gonna beat the b
Jesus out of me. Do you want to tell people
why you said that? In case people are just joining
the show now, Ross is wearing a woman's blouse. A blouse, Okay,

(01:12:02):
just do this, and I'm gonna do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
This, so why I mean, he just you know this morning,
we're gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
In twenty three seconds, so we don't waste too much
more time. I went over to a box over by
the boss's desk where they have a bunch of iHeart
shirts because I wanted a black shirt and I wanted
one that wasn't too baggy on me. The one I
have at home now is gray and it's a large
and it's a it's a little baggy. I wanted black
in a better fit, so there was there's a black
medium and I picked it up and on the label

(01:12:29):
it says M slash M, which I thought meant men's medium,
and I didn't look any further, and long story short,
it turns out it's a woman's shirt. My first clue
was this morning when I put it on and I
found that the buttons were on the wrong side. And
now I'm wearing it, but it fits me fine, and
I don't think it looks like a woman's shirt. But

(01:12:49):
now we're having all these conversations about Ross is wearing
a blouse and Ross is gonna go to the women's
restroom and Ross is gonna change his pronouns, and I'm
just not really sure what to do about it in
those high heels though.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
But really, when you realized you're putting it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
On, slimming button it up and you're like, hey, this
isn't right, you didn't immediately take it off and went,
maybe I'll try this one a different day. No, I didn't,
because I just I don't know. I wanted to wear
the black eye heart shirt today. I knew as soon
as I put it on that you, like, in my brain,

(01:13:24):
I have a problem here, But I didn't think it's
enough of a problem to not put it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I mean, after all, after all, let's put it this way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
If I didn't tell you that this shirt said woman's
on the label, you wouldn't have guessed that it's a
woman's shirt. It is not, in fact, a like a blouse, right,
this is not a mandy blouse.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
That the shoulders are a little narrow, they are starting
to bunch up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Well, that's and I think that's because it's a women's
medium rather than a men's medium, so it's smaller than
I expected. On the other hand, it does show how
spelt I am that I can fit into this shirt
after all the weight that I've lost, which is something
you can appreciate. Yeah, it does. Actually, you know, I'm
I don't normally wear tight clothes, and this isn't quite

(01:14:07):
tight but almost and so yeah, you know what, let
me all right, so let me just take three minutes
here and talk about financial markets a little bit. So
you know, listeners heard me say a little over a
month ago that I was selling stocks and actually it
was the first time in fifteen years that I went
on the radio and said such a thing, because I've

(01:14:29):
never and I think you probably also know that my
first career was as a professional trader. I've been. I've
been trading financial markets, first as kind of a like
an amateur, let's say, from maybe nineteen eighty four, eighty
five to eighty seven, and then in nineteen eighty seven
I became a professional trader. And I was a professional trader.

(01:14:49):
That was how I made a living from nineteen eighty
seven all the way up until I got my first
full time job at iHeart in twenty sixteen. So I've been,
you know, in market's a long time. I've seen every
movie more than once, and I can't explain it, just
the same way that maybe a professional basketball player can't

(01:15:11):
explain to you exactly why he decides to shoot versus pass.
It's just you've done it enough and you've seen the
movie before when when Michael Jordan. And by the way,
I am not the Michael Jordan of trading. Okay, I'm good,
but I'm not like that right like for you know,
i'd be I'd be good. And if I were gonna
do a sports analogy, if if I, as a trader,

(01:15:35):
were the equivalent of a basketball player, I would be
good enough to be in the NBA, but definitely not
good enough to be on the All Star team, right,
that's kind of where I am. I'd be good enough
to make the NBA, but not among the best in
the NBA. That would be me. But that's fine. That's
already a pretty high level. And it and maybe every

(01:15:56):
five years or eight years, I get a feeling that
something's wrong with the market and that's going down. And
I've never been wrong. I don't normally trade on it,
but I've never been wrong. This was the strongest feeling
I've ever had. And I've been in financial markets for
forty years. And so I sold stocks. And I told
you that I sold stocks, which is not something I

(01:16:17):
normally do. Now a bunch of people have been messaging
me saying, Roster, you're gonna tell us when you're gonna
get back in, And I said, I I want to
make something clear.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I still own lots of stocks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
I just reduced the amount of stocks that I didn't
get out of everything. I wasn't aggressive as aggressive as
I should have been given the strength of my opinion.
So I've told people I don't know if I'll tell
you just what I'm doing. I also want to be
very very very careful. I don't ever want to be
in a position where somebody says, Ross, I did this

(01:16:47):
or that in financial markets because I thought you gave
me the advice to do that. I am never ever
giving you trading or investing advice ever. I am only
telling you a little, very very little about what I
do on my own, and I could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
This is not men's advice.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
So people say, Roster, you're gonna tell us what you're doing,
Probably not not much. I will say, the stuff that
I sold recently, I don't know if I will put
it back in the stock market as I start drifting
closer to retirement years. If I can find other investments
that generate a pretty decent, pretty stable return without having

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stock market kinds of volatilities, I might do that. Right,
If I could find something that paid a pretty consistent
nine or ten percent, and I think I can find
something like that, I might do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Not with all my money, but with the money.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
That I just you know, cashed in from selling stocks
in the past weeks. Now, I will tell you something
I did at the end of last week and then yesterday,
and very very small size, right, like so small that
it's not even really relevant to talk about from a
financial perspective, but just conceptually, I'll mention it to you,
you know, for people who are interested. What I did
was I sold very short term like one day to expiration,

(01:18:06):
five days to expiration, that kind of thing. Not more
than that puts and calls on the SPX and the SPY,
but basically the S and P five hundred, essentially betting
that over the next several days there would not be
either a massive market crash.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
And remember I did this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I started on Friday after the huge, you know, eight
percent sell off, So after that, I bet that there
would not be an additional really massive crash, like another
fifteen or twenty percent in a week, nor would there
be like a fifteen percent rally in a week, just

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betting that we're going to be a little bit range
bound here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
And the reason I believe that is, first.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Of all, the market is sold off an immense amount already,
and so a lot of this stuff is kind of
priced in. There's some hope that the Trump administration will
back off and and do some kinds of deals. And
you know what, I you know, I have more to
say on this, so let me and and I saw
an interesting email from the Trump administration. This morning that
I wanted to share with you because it plays into
all this. I think you'll find it interesting. Keep it here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
But I have to say it's my fault. It really is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
I mentioned it. I mentioned that I put the shirt
on and the buttons were on the wrong side, which
either means that it's a woman's shirt or communist shirt.
And uh, and I'm not sure what I'd prefer to
be wearing a woman's shirt or communist shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
If I had to be wearing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
One communists, Yeah, probably woman's. Then you would feel.

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
And you might have missed the thing before Dragon, where
I was talking about how proud of of myself I
was over over the past week. My wife installed her
My wife installed her roll of toilet paper in the
bathroom commie style with the with the paper coming down behind.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
The bio bat.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
That's just wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It's wrong. And why would she even do that? Like her,
she's a smart woman, And i'd I don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
You know, it's it's like one of these Netflix specials
where somebody you didn't expect as a Soviet spy or
something like that, and that and that was the clue,
and you had to be watching the show very carefully
when you're trying to sort out throughout the entire course
of the show who's the spy. And there was one point,
like two thirds of the way through episode three where
you saw somebody install a toilet paper roll the comyway

(01:20:23):
with the paper down behind the back, and and you
should have figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
And then at the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
End, at the end, you know her Qule Poirot or
Miss Marple or somebody or Matt Locke, like, you know,
I saw the toilet paper roll. But anyway, I saw
the toilet paper roll, and I didn't turn it around,
and I didn't criticize Kristin, and I just left it
there until Kristin went through the whole roll of toilet paper.

(01:20:47):
And I was proud of myself for having that levels.
We're having that level of tolerance for this kind of
you know, maybe it's a dead drop signal, you know
in the movies, like they'll go put a chop a
little piece of chalco on a light, posting it no yeah,
and it means there's like a secret package of stolen

(01:21:08):
information that you're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Pick up someone. So maybe that was the dead drop marker.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
I don't want any packages that come from the restroom.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
No, but the package isn't there at the dead drop
the pack the dead drop is a mark. Mark shows
that you're supposed to go somewhere else to pick up
the package. I just the thing is, I don't know
who's coming into my bathroom to see that to then
know to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Go somewhere else to pick up the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
This is the house you're at now, so it's not
the construction house where everybody's at, right. So okay, if
it we're at the construction house, then that could plausibly
be you know, where everybody is trying to sneak in
to see if the sign is there?

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Is there?

Speaker 4 (01:21:44):
But none of this is just your wife at your house.
Is this a like a like a main bathroom.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Where everybody gets to or is it just no master
sweet master bathroom, master bathroom? So it's just me and
her kids and no kids, no guests, nobody in there,
just me and her yoga instructor stuff. But I'm supposed
to be talking about financial markets right now, and look
how much time we're wasting. Your fault, I'm not even
gonna get to financial markets. So I'm gonna have to
do that in the next segment now because because the

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boss dragon here just decided to waste all your time.
But a dragon, if you if you went into your
master sweet bathroom, yeah, and the toilet paper was on
the commy way, which I know Missus Redbeard would never do,
would never, could never do that. In fact, she would
be more upset about it than you would. Correct But
if you went in there and the toilet paper was

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on the commy way, would you reverse it? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Totally, I'd be I would do that while standing and
peeing because I would be noticing and it was like,
that's wrong, wrong, And then I would flip that around
while I'm in the process of evacuation.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Would you say anything to Missus Redbeard about it? I
was like, who was in our bathroom?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Hmm, Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I didn't say I even used it. I didn't say anything.
I let her take as long, you know, a week
or whatever it took to go through the toilet paper roll.
I mentioned early, your Dragon, and I think you will.
I think you'll relate to this that if it were
a bathroom that only I used one roll of toilet
paper would probably last four.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Weeks oh forever.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Yeah, But since it's in a bathroom that my wife uses.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
It lasts about one week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I don't I don't fully understand the science behind that,
and I don't want to. But I only had to
put up with it for a week, and I was,
as I said, I was kind of even.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Have to put it up with for a week. You
didn't even to put up with.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
One set of You mean I could have turned it
around exactly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I was. I was
trying to prove to myself that I could resist, that
I could demonstrate a level of either tolerance or discipline
or something pointless.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Put it the right way and move on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
We've done enough making making fun of me today.

Speaker 4 (01:23:48):
How does this song make fun? Uh huh, I don't understand.
You love the Kinks.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I do love the Kinks, and I do love that
song nineteen seventy that song by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
So what do you mean what's wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
What's wrong is that the Nuggets just fired Michael Malone?

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Oh my goodness, wow, you know wait.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
The Nuggets fired Malone just to so that we don't
talk about you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I gotta thank Malone for taking one for the team
like that, coming in and changing the subject. So we
don't have to talk about this anymore. But look, I
don't pay very close attention to the Nuggets, but some
and there's definitely been a thing going on over the
past week or so where Nikola Jokicic is playing lights out.

(01:24:34):
I mean, I think he had sixty one points in
a game a few days ago and they lost, and
they didn't get He just keeps having these incredible games
because there's no production from anybody else. And you know,
you might think, if you don't, you know, follow a
lot of basketball, that when somebody scores that many points,
they've got to win. But really, what it means is
one guy who's playing great is has to has to
take so much of the burden upon himself. And it's

(01:24:55):
usually hard even for a great player to make up
for bad play a from you know, three other players.
And and that's seems to be what's gonna I guess
the owner ownership, I guess Kronky Kronky family and whoever
else is running that team at the management level has said,
all right, we just it's it's time for a change.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Wow. Wow, It's it's not all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
That often that you know a coach who won an
NBA championship is fired within a small number of years
after winning the championship. That's a that's a really that's
a really big deal. Hey, Ross, you guys are running
yesterday's mini sportscast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Yeah, we know. Just notice that we're gonna try to
do something about it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
So one one quick thing on the toilet paper, and
then we're gonna do the financial markets and the Donald
Trump thing that I that I mentioned earlier, and that
is I will say when when when talking about the
Kammi the Kammi orientation of the toilet paper, right, which
is which is the paper coming down behind the back
of the role, I will say to be as fair

(01:26:03):
and balanced as possible that over the years, this has
come up from time to time on the show, you know,
maybe once every few years. And I do frequently hear
from cat owners, although today I heard from a dog owner.
Oh my gosh, Dragon, you see that listener text already,

(01:26:25):
did it? I hear from cat owners that they have
to put the toilet paper with the paper going down
the back of the role because the cats will come
in and kind of scratch on the paper in the
playtoy and spin it. And if you have it with
the paper coming down the front, they will just unfurl

(01:26:46):
the if that's the right world. That's not exactly the
right word, but okay, and they'll they'll when you come home,
all of your toilet paper will be off the roll
and on the floor if you've got cats or in
this listener's case, a dog who likes to use the
toilet paper roll as a boy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
But we don't have that. So if you don't have
that excuse.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
As to why you must put the paper that way,
you're a comie.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Can Agnes even get that high?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
No? No, probably not. She's never in that room anyway.
But oh, can I tell you a funny thing. You're
probably old enough dragon, because I'm old enough even though
you're younger than I am.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Do you remember mister Bill from Saturday Night Live? Help
me miss her hand? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
You remember? Miss yeah? Right? And so when when we
were in the Galopighos, a friend of mine took Agnes
and my friend and his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
They used to have a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
That dog actually passed away from that really terrible virus
that almost killed Reuben. We actually think that virus weakened
Ruben so much that that's why Ruben eventually passed away,
but their dog had passed away, so they were really
happy to take Agnes for a week and just hang
out with Agnes. And they had a little small mister

(01:28:05):
Bill stuffed a little stuffed mister Bill about eight or
nine inches tall, like a doggy chew toy. And when
they returned Agnes, they gave her the mister Bill and
it used to have this thing in it where when
the dog would bite on it, the mister Bill would.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Say, oh no, oh, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Yeah, but it's since been broken. I might need to
go look for another one, although I'm not sure I
want to hear that right seventy seven times a day.
But in any case, Agnes loves to pick up the
mister Bill and just run around with it, and it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
It's really quite funny.

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
You had mentioned about the toilet paper that you were
concerned that your wife might be some kind of Communist spye.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Yeah, but somebody had texted in kind of you know,
makes a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Ross.

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Did you consider the fact that your wife may have
intentionally put the paper the wrong way to see what
you would do?

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
See if you were the communists spy? It's a trap
it's a trap. A listener, you didn't fix it. A
listener mentioned that, And I've heard this from other people,
and I don't know that it's definitely true, but it
might be true that on one of the reasons, the

(01:29:19):
clothing has developed so that normally men's buttons are on
the right as you're as you're wearing the shirt, not
as you're looking at me, but as you're wearing the shirt.
The buttons on a men's shirt will typically be on
the right, and the holes will typically be on the left.
And what the listener's email said was this is the reason.

(01:29:40):
The main reason is that back in the day, men
tended to dress themselves, where women upperclass women would be
more likely to have somebody helping them get dressed. And
so that person to use their right hand would have
to have the buttons on the other side because you're

(01:30:00):
facing them instead of doing it right, so it would
be the wearer's left because women had somebody else using
their right hand while facing the woman to button the shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
And I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
I don't know if that's true, but I have heard
it pretty true because I'm pretty sure when we first
started doing this show, together we did, Ross, I really
want to know, Ross, I want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was one I've been wondering.
I've been wondering. Listener text. The Nuggets also fired the
general manager. The general manager was the only one that
deserved it. You might be right, I gotta say, don't.
I I really only pay quite close attention to the NFL.
I pay only passing attention to other pro sports, and

(01:30:44):
I pay almost no attention to college sports, although I
have been paying a little bit more attention to see
you football in the past few years since coach Prime
got there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Just like everybody, just like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Oh my god, Ross, I'm crushed to learn that my
wife is a Kami, one of the smartest people I
ever met, and she constantly puts the toilet paper in wrong.
Do I need to dispose of her? No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
What you need to do is make a double agent.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Of her, right and you need to turn her and
you need to give her false information to share with
her commie handlers. And that way you can actually do
a lot to improve the national security of your own country.
And you would be an absolute patriotch keeping her, turning

(01:31:29):
her into a double agent and maybe using that to
secretly get other people to put toilet paper in the
right way. Russ.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
I'm more concerned that you would take forever to go
through a roll of TP on your own.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Don't you wipe when you go number two?

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Or do you just have a bid day?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
So we've done the whole big Day topic, and I'm
not going to do this in a big way, but
i will mention this dragon because you might find this
of interest in the dumbest possible way, in a true
waste of time kind of way. So we're modeling this house,
and we've taken out all the plumbing and we're putting
in all new plumbing, and there's five toilets in the house,

(01:32:09):
and two of them are the master suite. And then
I'm actually I'm building my own office that's going to
double as my my radio studio, my electronics hobby workroom,
and my and my stereo listening room. And I'm going
to make a corner of it a bathroom with a

(01:32:30):
shower so that future potential buyers of the house could turn.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
That into a bedroom if they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
So in that bathroom and the master bathroom, we've bought
these so called smart toilets. Look them up on Amazon.
I got to Oh my gosh, I went on Amazon
and they had a two hundred and fifty dollars coupon
on one of them. It was the most like, you
get this freaking smart toilet for only one hundred dollars

(01:32:57):
more than a regular toilet. It was crazy. Anyway, these things,
and I'm just gonna say, this is the fact that
you're so Jewish.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
You have to be so happy, so giddy about the
deal that you know you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Have to tell I know, I know? Was that was
that a Jewish joke? You're not wrong, You're not wrong.
So listen. Sometimes when when I say stuff like that
about me and about my own people, I get I
get angry emails from other Jews.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
But what are you gonna do? I like a good deal.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
So so anyway, who doesn't now And let me just
also say the next stuff I'm gonna say to you
is gonna make me look like I have absolutely no
idea what's important in life and what's not important in life.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
But I gotta buy a toilet, So.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Take an extra few minutes. And uh, and I'm doing
this research on the so called smart toilets and I
buy one, and it's actually it showed up at my
house in the box and we'll saw.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
So this thing. So, first of all, it doesn't have
a tank on the back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Imagine if you took a toilet, you know, regular toilet
tank on the bank and just slice the tank off,
so the tank is built in underneath. It's like one
of the ones here at works. Yeah, like that, except
it doesn't look like those. It doesn't look like those.
It's it's a larger, self contained unit. It looks almost
not quite like a rectangle, but it's got walls on
the sides. Go look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Just go on Amazon and look up smart toilet.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Do it right now, dragon, and you'll you'll see what
I'm what I'm talking about. So what does this havel?
What does this have that I really really need? Heated
toilet seat looks like a trash can heat? Yeah, it
does kind of look like an elongated trash can heated
toilet seat the one I got, Dude, Check it out.

(01:34:44):
The lid automatically opens and closes when you get when
you walk up to it, the lid opens when you're
done doing your business, the lid closes.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Does it flush on its own too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
It flushes on its own two when you get up,
and and I don't know if we've really done a
segment of this, but it has its own version of
a courtesy flush. We all know what a courtesy flush is, right,
does it know or do you have to tell it?
You don't have to tell it. What it does apparently
is And then this isn't actually a censor thing, but

(01:35:13):
I think what it's if I understand it right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
It has a very very low pressure fan.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
I don't think you can tell there's a fan there
that sucks the air out of the toilet bowl back
into the mechanism somewhere through some kind of like a
like a catalytic deodorizer to keep the odor level down.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
How silly is all this?

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Right? How? And it has b DA functionality too, although
I don't really see myself using that, because I tried
the b DA function the bday once when I was
on vacation and in Colombia, after listeners said that I
should try it you mentioned and every toilet had one
in Egypt, and it just felt just way, way too weird.
I will be there and maybe I'll try another at

(01:36:03):
another point. And then it has some kind of crazy
fan to draw you off after the B Day and.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
This is this lesson is very curious to say, hey,
will your shower have leg washing capabilities?

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
No, I'm getting a shower without without that.

Speaker 7 (01:36:19):
A Rod is acting like he has something he wants
to say. No, I'm just you're saying cleaning up. I mean,
you're the day cleans you up almost as much as
the Nuggets just cleaned house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
I actually wanted to ask you about that, and I'm
guessing it's a coincidence because you would have been in
the car already or here already when the news came
out that. And you are a much bigger Nuggets fan
than I am. I mean, as basketball goes, all root
for the Nuggets, but I just don't pay much attention
to the NBA. So you, as a Nuggets fan and
a guy who does some sports reporting for us here

(01:36:50):
at KOA, what's your take.

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
I am absolutely shocked, not necessarily shocked at it happening
full house, but the timing of it, just a couple
of games before the playoffs and having it be both,
which means it came from the ownership. Because immediately when
I saw him alone gone, I immediately think to the
fans have not been happy with Calvin Booth, Joe manager
for quite some time in the moves that he's made,

(01:37:14):
basically since they've won the championship. But then I see
Calvin Booth's gone as well. Moments later from sham Gerarni
Ever reporting it, I'm I'm literally lost of words.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I am, I am, i am shocked.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
I think that there's there's a lot more going on,
not just in the locker room with because the Nuggets
have been bad the last month.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Yeah, it's no doubt about it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:36):
They're they're they're possibly going to play in the plane,
which is insane, knowing that they were trying to go
over lock in the two. They're probably gonna get ousted
in the first round because they're playing really bad. Jamal
Murray may not play, not just the rest of the season,
but not the playoffs. Russell Westbrook, who I was seemingly
the minority not a fan of that move. I think
he's one of the most inefficient players ever.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
I don't think he was going to be a great fit.

Speaker 7 (01:37:59):
I was very wrong in the first couple of months,
but this last month he has not played very well
because he's been forced to get starters minutes. I'm wondering
what Jokic is thinking. Our superstar, one guy you don't
want to piss off. He loves Malone. The guys that
Malone loves love him back. Yeah, it just hasn't worked
for the rest of the squad. It's been a team
in turmoil, that is without a bench, without good depth,

(01:38:21):
and I'm just shocked it comes at this timing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
It's really crazy, this timing. Something might happen.

Speaker 7 (01:38:26):
I don't know, I haven't heard anything, but with this
many games left, I Adaman, the interim head coach is
probably a very good chance to be the next head coach.
He's highly coveted, very quality system, one of the best
in the league. Unless they get a big name that
wants to come and coach Jokic, he could be the
next guy. So maybe they'll go on a run under
his leadership. But I'm shocked, shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
All right. So I got about four minutes left, and
I have this whole thing I wanted to talk about
with Trump and South Korea, but I'm not going to
because Mandy just walked in and she's looking at my
shirt and I'm feeling really nervous, right now even though
I did a better cart wheel than she did, and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
I think she's got I think she's.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
A little mad me for out performing or on the
cartwheel exactly. If you go to the blog at Rosskominsky
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Actually I posted my.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Cartwheel, Mandy's cartwheel, and listener Reagan's cartwheel, which I actually
had to say was the best one, whom I did
end up paying twenty dollars. So she told me not to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
She told you not to, listener.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
I don't know if you see you know, you wouldn't
have seen it yet, listener Reagan. One she texted in
saying she could do a one handed cartwheel while holding
a mug of beer and not spill any and she
did it on video.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Do that with a little practice?

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Really?

Speaker 6 (01:39:27):
Oh sure? I used to be able.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:30):
No handed cartwheel called an aerial.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Woof really, no hands?

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Yeah, you bang your head on the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:39:36):
No, you don't hit your head on the ground.

Speaker 8 (01:39:38):
You do a cartwheel, but you don't have any hands
down and you're you know, go from feet to feet.

Speaker 6 (01:39:42):
There's no head involved there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
But that's all women's shirts, that's all cgi. Nobody actually
does that. What I used to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:39:48):
Cgi I wasn't really a thing. Special effects were not
special back in the day. Do you like my Are
you wearing a woman's shirt and ross it looks like
a woman?

Speaker 7 (01:39:57):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:39:58):
One doesn't, just a little bit it does.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
In what way does it look like a woman's shirt
other than that's a little tighter than normally I would wear.
Other than here, Yeah, that's the thing. It's a little,
it's it's a little, it's a little small. So here
here's the thing, Mandy. When I when I went over
that box, it has all shirts in it, I wanted
a black shirt, and I wanted one that fit me
better than the large I have at home, which is
too bad. Yeah, so I looked at the label in

(01:40:22):
the back and it says M slash M, which I
think I thought men's medium, But it doesn't. It just
means medium. And then I didn't keep looking on the label,
and in fact, elsewhere on the label it does say women's.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
But you still wore it anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:40:35):
I mean, I am very comfortable, I'm very comfortable with sexuality, comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
But I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
I didn't know that it said women's until I got
to work, and and uh, Melissa, I think looked at
the label and said, yeah, it says women's, but the
buttons didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
They did.

Speaker 8 (01:40:56):
Oh so you committed, but you knew you had the
woman's shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Okay, but now I'm thinking the shoulder seems too hot,
too high? Yeah, yeah, are too high?

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
And so now I cannot wear those shirts comfortably because
the shoulders are so small. Yeah, I mean, I have
broad broad.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
I don't really see Kristen wearing this kind of like
a black polo shirt, but I'll see if she wants it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Yeah, because nobody else.

Speaker 6 (01:41:24):
Wants to wear it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:25):
Here.

Speaker 6 (01:41:25):
Now it's got your stink on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
It, and there's eight more of them in the box
out there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Do that?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Oh man? Anyway, is there a proper way to put
the toilet paper on the roll.

Speaker 8 (01:41:34):
Of course, there's one way to put the toilet paper
on the roll?

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Now, paper out, paper out? Coming over the other people's houses.

Speaker 8 (01:41:42):
I'm in someone else's house, and for whatever reason, they
are misinformed about the proper way to put to it.
I'm changing in all their bathrooms. Like if I go
in the powder room and it's messed up there, I'm like, well,
I got a mission, now, you guys, got I got
a peek multiple times.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
During the evening listener to Mandy is Ross showing off
his cleavage with his fancy shirt.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
No, it's not a cleavage burned.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Yeah, it's really, it's not really.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
It's a golf shirt really.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
So yeah, it's a golf shirt that happens to be
a little too small for me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
God, that's embarrassing for you. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
For some reason, for some reason, I'm feeling less easily
embarrassed today than I normally would be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I'm just letting all this roll off of me.

Speaker 6 (01:42:27):
I think he just popped into my brain.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
How confident I feel after doing a better cart will in.
It's the gymnastics.

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
Post twenty years ago. Oh excuse me.

Speaker 8 (01:42:37):
Thirty years ago was twenty five. I broke up with
a guy because he put on my jeans and they
looked better on him than they looked on me. I
was like, oh, we can't date. That's not a thing
that's happening anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:42:48):
I'm sorry, you don't have to go, And he was
like what. I was like, no, really, you can go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
You may leave.

Speaker 4 (01:42:55):
Hey, this Texas has nothing to be ashamed of. The
most comfortable socks I ever bought were women's socks from
and unfortunately they fell apart.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
What are women's socks?

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
Women's are much different than none sock.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Be careful not to dead name Ross. He's now Rossina.
All right, what you got coming up?

Speaker 6 (01:43:14):
I got a couple of things.

Speaker 8 (01:43:15):
One, we're going to talk to a guy who has
an app called travel Freely that helps you use points
and miles to travel for free or more freely. And
we also have Kathleen Chandler from the Independent Institute. She's
got another one of her classes on civic engagement coming.

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
Up, so we're going to talk to her.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
And uh, I got.

Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
A lot of what not things, whatnot food for all.
Are you changing your mind on the tariffs yet? I mean,
do you think that No, no, no, not that they're good.
No no, no, not that kind of changing. But I
don't think I mean, you're wearing a woman's shirt, but
I don't think you've taken leave of your senses. Are
you starting to see where these are more going to
be a tool rather than the endgame?

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
I think that's where we are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I think I think his best way out is to
pretend that he really wanted them the whole time, as
negotiating leverage even though we know he didn't. That's his
only way out to not crash the economy is to
go make every deal he can. That was the thing
I didn't get to read the South Korea.

Speaker 6 (01:44:11):
I think that was the whole purpose.

Speaker 8 (01:44:13):
I think that was the intended strategy from the get go,
and all the bluster about paying our bills with tariffs
was just to put everybody on notice that they were coming,
so they think he was serious. So he has a
stronger negotiating position going.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Forward, right, and I did. The reason I disagree is
that for forty years he's been saying he believes in
tariffs to force more manufacturing back to the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
He's been saying it since the eighties, and I believe him.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Okay, everybody stick around for the fabulous Mandy Connell Show
where she is not wearing one of my shirts.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Talk to you tomorrow.