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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is two thousand eight Democratic National Convention. Cover it.
You're tonight in Denver of event Make America Brad again, Republican.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
National Convention on KOA most Broncos Country tonight on this
station I also operated is the Broncos Insider for for
Game day broadcast. But Ross is a good friend and
as we only had a short segment leading up to
the Rockies here covered starting here at nine point thirty
on KOA, I offer to fill in a little bit
(00:31):
and uh here we are get a chance to talk
about some things outside of the sports world, which is
you know, which is fun for me and hopefully you
guys enjoy it as well. Also be filling in for
Mandy Connell immediately following the Rocky broadcast. We'll continue the
conversation there as well. And if you like that and
you want some sports, I'll be on Broncos Country tonight
with Nick ferguson to night starting at six o'clock. I
(00:54):
want to get right into it right off the bat here.
I know by now every American knows about the Ukraine
drone strike on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I do believe that damaged.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As many as forty aircraft deep inside Russia. Strategic bombers
were sitting like ducks on the thing, and they dropped
these they dropped these drones on it. And I think
there's I think there's an urgent lesson for Americans here
that we need to come to grips with, and that
is that we are far more vulnerable to attacks like
this than probably people realize. The details coming out so
(01:29):
far have not been have not been overwhelming. We don't
know the extent of everything that went into this, but
we do have the rudimentary details of this. And Ukraine
managed to sneak cheap drones across the border use them
to destroy costly Russian military assets, and the bank for
the buck here is considerable. The Ukraine's Ukrainians did about
(01:52):
seven billion dollars worth of damage to the Russian bomber fleet,
most of which are outdated aircraft.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Most of most of those.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Aircrafts are not production anymore, so it's difficult for them
to repair or replace those without ramping up production on
new aircraft. But you don't really have to be a
fan of like, for instance, the Jack Ryan series of
uh Uh novels or shows to to imagine a situation
(02:19):
like that here in the United states and and to
what I want to get at is uh, especially the
port cities, you know, shipping containers with with port that
that are located at ports, with false tops that could
activate these kinds of things. If for those that don't know,
what they did was sneak drones into wooden cabinets on
the back of delivery trucks lorries, and these these cabinets
(02:45):
had false tops that were sort of remote activated. The
roof came open and the drones could come out, UH
and then deliver to their target.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The drones were first smuggled into.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Russia inside of these these wooden cabins that were mounted
on the back of lorries. They were concealed below remotely operated,
attachable roofs. They were driven to locations near the air
bases by drivers who were seemingly unaware of their cargo,
and then the drones were launched and set upon their targets.
We've seen videos circulating online showing the drones emerging from
(03:18):
the roof. You can look those up if you want
to and kind of get a concept of how that is.
One of the drivers was interviewed by a Russian state
outlet and said that because these were mostly Russian drivers
delivering these the unsuspecting payloads here said that he and
other drivers were.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Trying to knock them down with rocks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They were trying to throw rocks at the drones to
UH to knock them down. And there are unverified reports
by the Russian telegram channel BASA. I don't know if
you guys are familiar with that, but it's known for
its link to the security services UH. And the drivers
these lorries for which the drolls took off all told
basically similar stories of being booked by businessmen to deliver
wooden canbids to various locations around Russia. Some of them
(03:57):
said they received further instructions over the phone on where park,
and when they did so, they were stunned to see
drones flying out the back the back of their trucks.
Ukraine was pretty triumphant about it, sharing posts on social
media on Sunday night and one hundred and seventeen drones
used in the in the attack took a year, six
months and nine days to prepare. One of the targeted
(04:21):
locations was right next to one of the offices of
the FSB Russian Security Service. Russia, for their part of it,
have been not very talkative about it, which I would
think you wouldn't be at that point, as you would
not want to give your enemy a rally and cry
at this particular point. But images that have been shared
by the SBU show dozens of small black drones, usually
(04:43):
a quad copter type if you're out there, if you
know what that is. They were stashed neatly in these
in these wooden cabins in the in the roofs, they
had this metal roof thing that sort of slides back
and doctor Stephen Wright, who is a UK based drone expert,
told the BBC that the drones used to hit the
(05:03):
Russian aircraft were basically simple quad copters, carrying relatively heavy
payloads for what they do. He added that what made
this attack quite extraordinary was the ability to smuggle them
into Russia and then launch and command them remotely, which
he concluded had been achieved through a link relayed through
a satellite or the Internet. Zelenski has said that each
one of the one hundred and seventeen drones launched had
(05:25):
its own pilot. Now what that means for Americans and
what I think that we need to keep our eye
on is the idea that you know, in any country
that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles, silos, strategic nuclear submarines,
anything at port is looking at that attack and thinking
(05:46):
the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of
drones disguised as a semi trailer suddenly poses a real risk.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Somebody gets the bright idea.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I reached out to a buddy by Jason Athidi, who's
the CEO of the RAND Corporation, these former Director of
Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which is basically the American
version of Q and the James Bond movies that make
the gadgets.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
For the spy agencies.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And you know, he said that Ukraine's Feet was just
the latest display of an accelerated use of asymmetric attacks
in which one force, which is usually smaller and weaker,
deploys unconventional attacked against another.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
How the Iranian.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
BacT Hoofy rebels have used relatively low cost missiles and
drones to smart to snarl commercial shipping in the Red
Sea Waterway, which is prompted retaliatory US bombing. Uh that's
that's cost US over a billion thus far. So I
think that's the thing to keep your eye on as
you look at as you look at what happened over there,
(06:44):
and as you look at what it is that you
know the the Ukraine's accomplished. I think the consequence or
the fallout is what we're looking at here for for.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The US as well. Filling in for Ross.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Kaminski up until Colorado Rockies Baseball bottom of the hour,
Kyle Freeland taking on Kyle Quantrell as the Rockies take
on the Miami Marlins. A suddenly hot, surging Colorado Rockies.
We're going streaking hits. A streak two in a row
will count it. Maybe maybe get out the broom and
sweep the Miami Marlins, who are hashtag not good as well.
(07:22):
Twenty six wins exculd be twenty three wins on the season,
although to be fair, if the Rockies doubled their win totally,
it would still be one short of where Miami is
at this point. The Rockies eleven and fifty Miami twenty
three and thirty six coverage here on KOA at the
bottom of the hour at nine to thirty. The suspect
in Sundays Molotov cocktail attack in Boulder tried to buy
(07:43):
a handgun in November, but was denied. According to the
Colorado Bureau of Investigation, mom At Zeliman, who was arrested
after allegedly throwing Molotov cocktails during a pro Israel demonstration
Injuring twelve, tried to buy the weapon on November twenty second,
but was denied based on the National Instant Criminal background
check system. According to the Bureau, the reason for his
(08:05):
denial wasn't disclosed. He didn't appeal the denial at about
a month later, on December thirtieth, the CBI denied his
application for a concealed handgun permit. After Soliban was arrested
on Sunday, he allegedly told investigators that he took a
concealed carry class to learn how to fire a gun,
but had to use Molotov cocktails for the attack.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
After he was denied the purchase of.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
A gun due to him not being a legal citizen,
Alliman said he used YouTube to learn how to make
the Molotov cocktails, and the unused cocktails were within arm's
reach when he was arrested. Per the FBI, he's been
charged with the federal hate crime state charges, including sixteen
counts of attempted first degree murder, appeared in court virtually
(08:45):
on Monday and yet to enter a plea.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I think the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Thing about this from the local angle that is sort
of interesting though, is that I mean, I'm a gun owner, right,
but his second two way proponents on the one hand,
we're looking at the victims here and wondering, you know,
why were they not allowed to carry in the zones
that they were in and defend themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But on the other hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Hey, look the background checks worked and didn't let the
bad guy get the gun. I think this is I
think this is a case of you know, two way
proponents being able to look across the aisle here and say, okay,
these background checks didn't work for this, it's working as
intended here.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We can loosen some of these restrictions over here.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know that you know, gun free zones, and
there's not a lot of evidence to support that those
particular work. But in my experience, and for those of
you who don't know, you know, I was in the
army for fifteen years. In my experience, most people are
bad shots, and that's that's largely been my concern with
a lot of the concealed carry stuff. Is again you know,
(09:51):
in my fifteen years in the army, people are bad shots.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
People in the Army are bad shots.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And those of you who have served know exactly what
I'm talking about about being out there on the rain
and leaning leaning over, having to take an extra mag
of AMO out there, leaning over into somebody else's lane
to help them pass qualification.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know exactly what I'm talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But it's it's I think the right to defend yourself
in this particular, in this particular case, in these particular situations,
I think I think exists. But I think this is
a moment where both sides of the eyela on this
issue could come together. You know, this is this shouldn't
be a moment where we're pitting against each other because
the background check portion of this worked, and you can
concede that while saying, hey, okay, look the background portion
(10:31):
of this worked.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But what didn't work is we we had an.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Attack because these people knew that this area was a
gun free zone and they knew that they were going
to be able to get this attack off.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And so, you know, I think this is a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Moment where the left and the right on the Second
Amendment could come together. And work together on something. I'm
hoping it'll turn into that. Of course I've hoped for
that before. My hopes have been in vain. As Chandon
Scott laughs at my NAIVIT day and nods his head
in solidarity. A lot of time to really delve into
this one, but a question I certainly went to put
(11:03):
on your mind those of you enjoying what you're listening
to right now. I'll be filling in for Mandy Connell
following the Colorado Rockies Miami Marlins games coming up here
about in the hour, just a few moments on KOWA
for those of you looking forward to Rockies and Marlin's
coverage that will be beginning shortly again. Kyle Freeland eight
with a five seven to two ERA taking on Cal
(11:26):
Quantrill three and five with a five eight four ERA.
I think we're betting the over on this one, Shannon,
although you know what, to be fair, both these scores
the last two games have been have been the under,
So who knows. Honter Goodman still making his case to
be a to be an All Star, the Rockies catcher
who currently usually bets third in the line of hitting
two seventy seven on the season ten home runs, including
(11:47):
the winning home run last night. He has three twenty
five OBP and a four to seventy seven, slugging thirty
five RBIs on the season. The only current Rocky in
the lineup with double digit home runs Jordan Beck With
with eight trailing behind him.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
On the Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Side of things, they haven't exactly been a who's who
of power hitters, and their best power hitter is I
believe out for the game Kyle Stowers. I don't believe
he's going to be playing in this game. Stores has
double digit home runs on the season. Ramirez their second
best with seven. They do have a player hitting over
three hundred Ad Myers at three oh five. Jack and
Jerry be on the call here appreciates you guys being
(12:27):
along for abbreviated version of the Ross Kaminski Show. Benjamin Albright,
you're listening to KOA eight fifty A ninety four one
FM News Talk Sports.
This is two thousand eight Democratic National Convention. Cover it.
You're tonight in Denver of event Make America Brad again, Republican.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
National Convention on KOA most Broncos Country tonight on this
station I also operated is the Broncos Insider for for
Game day broadcast. But Ross is a good friend and
as we only had a short segment leading up to
the Rockies here covered starting here at nine point thirty
on KOA, I offer to fill in a little bit
(00:31):
and uh here we are get a chance to talk
about some things outside of the sports world, which is
you know, which is fun for me and hopefully you
guys enjoy it as well. Also be filling in for
Mandy Connell immediately following the Rocky broadcast. We'll continue the
conversation there as well. And if you like that and
you want some sports, I'll be on Broncos Country tonight
with Nick ferguson to night starting at six o'clock. I
(00:54):
want to get right into it right off the bat here.
I know by now every American knows about the Ukraine
drone strike on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I do believe that damaged.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
As many as forty aircraft deep inside Russia. Strategic bombers
were sitting like ducks on the thing, and they dropped
these they dropped these drones on it. And I think
there's I think there's an urgent lesson for Americans here
that we need to come to grips with, and that
is that we are far more vulnerable to attacks like
this than probably people realize. The details coming out so
(01:29):
far have not been have not been overwhelming. We don't
know the extent of everything that went into this, but
we do have the rudimentary details of this. And Ukraine
managed to sneak cheap drones across the border use them
to destroy costly Russian military assets, and the bank for
the buck here is considerable. The Ukraine's Ukrainians did about
(01:52):
seven billion dollars worth of damage to the Russian bomber fleet,
most of which are outdated aircraft.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Most of most of those.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Aircrafts are not production anymore, so it's difficult for them
to repair or replace those without ramping up production on
new aircraft. But you don't really have to be a
fan of like, for instance, the Jack Ryan series of
uh Uh novels or shows to to imagine a situation
(02:19):
like that here in the United states and and to
what I want to get at is uh, especially the
port cities, you know, shipping containers with with port that
that are located at ports, with false tops that could
activate these kinds of things. If for those that don't know,
what they did was sneak drones into wooden cabinets on
the back of delivery trucks lorries, and these these cabinets
(02:45):
had false tops that were sort of remote activated. The
roof came open and the drones could come out, UH
and then deliver to their target.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
The drones were first smuggled into.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Russia inside of these these wooden cabins that were mounted
on the back of lorries. They were concealed below remotely operated,
attachable roofs. They were driven to locations near the air
bases by drivers who were seemingly unaware of their cargo,
and then the drones were launched and set upon their targets.
We've seen videos circulating online showing the drones emerging from
(03:18):
the roof. You can look those up if you want
to and kind of get a concept of how that is.
One of the drivers was interviewed by a Russian state
outlet and said that because these were mostly Russian drivers
delivering these the unsuspecting payloads here said that he and
other drivers were.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Trying to knock them down with rocks.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They were trying to throw rocks at the drones to
UH to knock them down. And there are unverified reports
by the Russian telegram channel BASA. I don't know if
you guys are familiar with that, but it's known for
its link to the security services UH. And the drivers
these lorries for which the drolls took off all told
basically similar stories of being booked by businessmen to deliver
wooden canbids to various locations around Russia. Some of them
(03:57):
said they received further instructions over the phone on where park,
and when they did so, they were stunned to see
drones flying out the back the back of their trucks.
Ukraine was pretty triumphant about it, sharing posts on social
media on Sunday night and one hundred and seventeen drones
used in the in the attack took a year, six
months and nine days to prepare. One of the targeted
(04:21):
locations was right next to one of the offices of
the FSB Russian Security Service. Russia, for their part of it,
have been not very talkative about it, which I would
think you wouldn't be at that point, as you would
not want to give your enemy a rally and cry
at this particular point. But images that have been shared
by the SBU show dozens of small black drones, usually
(04:43):
a quad copter type if you're out there, if you
know what that is. They were stashed neatly in these
in these wooden cabins in the in the roofs, they
had this metal roof thing that sort of slides back
and doctor Stephen Wright, who is a UK based drone expert,
told the BBC that the drones used to hit the
(05:03):
Russian aircraft were basically simple quad copters, carrying relatively heavy
payloads for what they do. He added that what made
this attack quite extraordinary was the ability to smuggle them
into Russia and then launch and command them remotely, which
he concluded had been achieved through a link relayed through
a satellite or the Internet. Zelenski has said that each
one of the one hundred and seventeen drones launched had
(05:25):
its own pilot. Now what that means for Americans and
what I think that we need to keep our eye
on is the idea that you know, in any country
that has strategic bombers, strategic missiles, silos, strategic nuclear submarines,
anything at port is looking at that attack and thinking
(05:46):
the risk to our arsenal from a containerized set of
drones disguised as a semi trailer suddenly poses a real risk.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Somebody gets the bright idea.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I reached out to a buddy by Jason Athidi, who's
the CEO of the RAND Corporation, these former Director of
Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity, which is basically the American
version of Q and the James Bond movies that make
the gadgets.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
For the spy agencies.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And you know, he said that Ukraine's Feet was just
the latest display of an accelerated use of asymmetric attacks
in which one force, which is usually smaller and weaker,
deploys unconventional attacked against another.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
How the Iranian.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
BacT Hoofy rebels have used relatively low cost missiles and
drones to smart to snarl commercial shipping in the Red
Sea Waterway, which is prompted retaliatory US bombing. Uh that's
that's cost US over a billion thus far. So I
think that's the thing to keep your eye on as
you look at as you look at what happened over there,
(06:44):
and as you look at what it is that you
know the the Ukraine's accomplished. I think the consequence or
the fallout is what we're looking at here for for.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The US as well. Filling in for Ross.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Kaminski up until Colorado Rockies Baseball bottom of the hour,
Kyle Freeland taking on Kyle Quantrell as the Rockies take
on the Miami Marlins. A suddenly hot, surging Colorado Rockies.
We're going streaking hits. A streak two in a row
will count it. Maybe maybe get out the broom and
sweep the Miami Marlins, who are hashtag not good as well.
(07:22):
Twenty six wins exculd be twenty three wins on the season,
although to be fair, if the Rockies doubled their win totally,
it would still be one short of where Miami is
at this point. The Rockies eleven and fifty Miami twenty
three and thirty six coverage here on KOA at the
bottom of the hour at nine to thirty. The suspect
in Sundays Molotov cocktail attack in Boulder tried to buy
(07:43):
a handgun in November, but was denied. According to the
Colorado Bureau of Investigation, mom At Zeliman, who was arrested
after allegedly throwing Molotov cocktails during a pro Israel demonstration
Injuring twelve, tried to buy the weapon on November twenty second,
but was denied based on the National Instant Criminal background
check system. According to the Bureau, the reason for his
(08:05):
denial wasn't disclosed. He didn't appeal the denial at about
a month later, on December thirtieth, the CBI denied his
application for a concealed handgun permit. After Soliban was arrested
on Sunday, he allegedly told investigators that he took a
concealed carry class to learn how to fire a gun,
but had to use Molotov cocktails for the attack.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
After he was denied the purchase of.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
A gun due to him not being a legal citizen,
Alliman said he used YouTube to learn how to make
the Molotov cocktails, and the unused cocktails were within arm's
reach when he was arrested. Per the FBI, he's been
charged with the federal hate crime state charges, including sixteen
counts of attempted first degree murder, appeared in court virtually
(08:45):
on Monday and yet to enter a plea.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I think the.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Thing about this from the local angle that is sort
of interesting though, is that I mean, I'm a gun owner, right,
but his second two way proponents on the one hand,
we're looking at the victims here and wondering, you know,
why were they not allowed to carry in the zones
that they were in and defend themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But on the other hand, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Hey, look the background checks worked and didn't let the
bad guy get the gun. I think this is I
think this is a case of you know, two way
proponents being able to look across the aisle here and say, okay,
these background checks didn't work for this, it's working as
intended here.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We can loosen some of these restrictions over here.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know that you know, gun free zones, and
there's not a lot of evidence to support that those
particular work. But in my experience, and for those of
you who don't know, you know, I was in the
army for fifteen years. In my experience, most people are
bad shots, and that's that's largely been my concern with
a lot of the concealed carry stuff. Is again you know,
(09:51):
in my fifteen years in the army, people are bad shots.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
People in the Army are bad shots.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And those of you who have served know exactly what
I'm talking about about being out there on the rain
and leaning leaning over, having to take an extra mag
of AMO out there, leaning over into somebody else's lane
to help them pass qualification.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know exactly what I'm talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But it's it's I think the right to defend yourself
in this particular, in this particular case, in these particular situations,
I think I think exists. But I think this is
a moment where both sides of the eyela on this
issue could come together. You know, this is this shouldn't
be a moment where we're pitting against each other because
the background check portion of this worked, and you can
concede that while saying, hey, okay, look the background portion
(10:31):
of this worked.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But what didn't work is we we had an.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Attack because these people knew that this area was a
gun free zone and they knew that they were going
to be able to get this attack off.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And so, you know, I think this is a.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Moment where the left and the right on the Second
Amendment could come together. And work together on something. I'm
hoping it'll turn into that. Of course I've hoped for
that before. My hopes have been in vain. As Chandon
Scott laughs at my NAIVIT day and nods his head
in solidarity. A lot of time to really delve into
this one, but a question I certainly went to put
(11:03):
on your mind those of you enjoying what you're listening
to right now. I'll be filling in for Mandy Connell
following the Colorado Rockies Miami Marlins games coming up here
about in the hour, just a few moments on KOWA
for those of you looking forward to Rockies and Marlin's
coverage that will be beginning shortly again. Kyle Freeland eight
with a five seven to two ERA taking on Cal
(11:26):
Quantrill three and five with a five eight four ERA.
I think we're betting the over on this one, Shannon,
although you know what, to be fair, both these scores
the last two games have been have been the under,
So who knows. Honter Goodman still making his case to
be a to be an All Star, the Rockies catcher
who currently usually bets third in the line of hitting
two seventy seven on the season ten home runs, including
(11:47):
the winning home run last night. He has three twenty
five OBP and a four to seventy seven, slugging thirty
five RBIs on the season. The only current Rocky in
the lineup with double digit home runs Jordan Beck With
with eight trailing behind him.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
On the Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Side of things, they haven't exactly been a who's who
of power hitters, and their best power hitter is I
believe out for the game Kyle Stowers. I don't believe
he's going to be playing in this game. Stores has
double digit home runs on the season. Ramirez their second
best with seven. They do have a player hitting over
three hundred Ad Myers at three oh five. Jack and
Jerry be on the call here appreciates you guys being
(12:27):
along for abbreviated version of the Ross Kaminski Show. Benjamin Albright,
you're listening to KOA eight fifty A ninety four one
FM News Talk Sports.
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