Congressman Gabe Evans (R-CO8) joins us to talk about a resolution he introduced in Congress that seems like it shouldn't be controversial but is (because of the significantly anti-Semitic and anti-Israel portion of the Democratic Party base.)
Tensions erupt in Congress over vote to condemn Boulder attack
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're following up I think in the vein of the
conversation we just had with Liberty Vindard about her leaving
her important role at the United Nations because of all
the anti Semitisms she found there. And it does seem
like there's anti Semitism in places you might not typically
expect it, and things that end up being controversial that
really shouldn't be. And one is a new resolution in
(00:25):
the House of Representatives, and it's entitled denouncing the anti
Semitic terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, and it was introduced
by Gabe Evans, who was actually not the member of
Congress for Bolder. Gabe introduced this and the headline at
Axios Now tensions erupt in Congress over vote to condemn
(00:48):
Boulder attack.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Joining us to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Why something that seems so ethical and obvious as denouncing
the anti Semitic terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, why would
that caused tensions? The man himself, Gabe Evans, Republican representing
Colorado's eighth Congressional district.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Gabe, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's always good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So Gabe, first just briefly describe what your resolution does
and then describe why this would cause tensions in Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, you pretty much described it. It does two things.
It says that throwing molotov cocktails at the Jewish community
while shouting Freeze Palestine is anti Semitic speech and obviously
action which should be condemned. And then it also acknowledges tacitly.
So you know my background, I joined the military a
few years after September eleventh. One of the big things
(01:40):
that happened after September eleventh was this thing called the
nine to eleven Commission, which said how do we prevent
terrorist attacks from happening again in the United States? And
one of the takeaways of that was federal, state, and
local law enforcement need to be able to work together
and share information because they're all going to have different
pieces of the puzzle, and if you can't get all
of the pieces together, it's hard to be able to
solve that puzzle and interdict acts of terrorism before they occur.
(02:04):
And so then the second thing that the resolution says
is that we acknowledge that we should have that cooperation
between federal, state, and local government to be able to
identify and interdict these things, hopefully before they happen. This
individual that threw the molotov cocktails illegally present in the
United States. So Immigration and Customs, being one of the
federal law enforcement entities, is mentioned. Thank you for your
(02:27):
work in keeping a violent terrorist like this individual illegally
present in the United States. Thanks for keeping them out
of the country. And unfortunately that's something that apparently some
of my colleagues across the aisle in Congress also can't
get behind. Is praising law enforcement for their work at
all levels to be able to identify and interdict things
like this before they happen.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
A couple of quotes in this Axios piece are are remarkable,
even though I'm used to them by now. They quote
one senior House Democrats who they don't name, saying it's
sheer politics, and another senior House Democrat says, it's unfortunate
that they're using a serious anti Semitic terrorist attack as
a wedge opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
To divide Democrats.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
They knew what they were doing adding something like that
in there. So first of all, Gabe, were you, in
fact clever enough to realize that you were putting something
in this resolution that might cause a little political pain
for Democrats? I'm hoping the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I spent twenty two years as a top and a
soldier raised my right hand three times US Army, Colorado Army,
National Guard, or at a police department to take care
of my country, my state, my community, which by the way,
includes Boulder on more than one occasion, because I've mobilized
air crews to go fight wildfires and boulders in Boulder,
Colorado's my crew is my helicopter. That's me stand up
all night to put together those rosters to make sure
(03:48):
that we can put out fires in Boulder. So this
isn't my first time being involved in a tragedy in Boulder.
But what I bring to the table is solutions. How
do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Because thoughts
and condolences if we don't actually identify the problem and
work to solve the problem by saying things like federal,
state and local law enforcement need to be able to
work together. Colorado is a sanctuary state that does not
(04:10):
allow their state and local law enforcement to work with
the federal government when immigration is implicated, which it was
in this particular case. Because we know that this guy
that threw the molotov cocktail. In addition to being illegally
present in the United States and having made multiple public
statements in support of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is an
organization with known Jiehttist tendencies, he also tried to buy
(04:32):
a gun last year, which was denied by the state
agency that handled that is BBI, Colorado Bureau of Investigations.
That's literally what the takeaway of the nine to eleven
commission was around this information sharing was, if you have
somebody that's a sympathizer of the Muslim Brotherhood at a
time of heightened anti Semitism, which by the way, is
(04:55):
up over eight hundred percent over the last several years,
known be hot a sympathizer time of heightened anti semitism,
has overstayed, two visas, illegally present in the United States,
and trying to buy a gun, maybe that should raise
some red flags. But for these sanctuaries a pause in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We got about a minute left. You did not answer
my question, and I'm going to ask you again.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Did you do some of this or much of this
or a little of this with a specific intention to
put democrats in a very tough spot.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I did this to solve the problem, and if they
can't get on board with trying to at least talk
about policies to solve the problem, they're the ones that
have put themselves in that tough spot by being unable
to acknowledge basic policy solutions to prevent something like this
from happening again.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I will again say to listeners that when you read
Gabe's resolution, and this is all linked on my blog
right now, to me, it all reads like pretty obvious,
common sense stuff that most people are thinking, and suddenly
it becomes it becomes a kind of thing that causes
a problem for Democrats in Congress because, as Gabe is
(06:06):
just describing, they are unable to say as clearly as
they should that they stand against terrorism. They are unable
to say that they stand against illegal immigrant criminals and
much less illegal immigration generally. And you know, again, Gabe,
I suspect you did this a little bit to put
(06:28):
them in a bad spot, and you just don't want
to admit it. And I hope, and I hope so
because they deserve to be in that bad spot. I'll
give you the last seventeen seconds.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I think you hit the nail on the head
right there. This is one hundred percent the doing of
the Democrats. They have put themselves in this position with
their inability to be able to condemn anti Semitism. I mean,
you had both elected Democrats from Boulder County at a
fundraiser with ilan Omar an hour after this attack happened.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
On the one hand, you could say that bad luck,
bad timing for them. On the other hand, nobody should
ever be supporting iohan Omar. She's one of the two
most egregious anti Semites in Congress, and the fact that
anybody would host her for anything is a stain on
those people. Congressman Gabe Evans is a Republican representing the
eighth Congressional District in Colorado. His new resolution in the
(07:20):
House of Representatives is entitled denouncing the anti Semitic terrorist
attack in Boulder, Colorado. Thanks for being here, Gab, and
thanks for bringing forward that resolution.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Paula's good to be on with you.
We're following up I think in the vein of the
conversation we just had with Liberty Vindard about her leaving
her important role at the United Nations because of all
the anti Semitisms she found there. And it does seem
like there's anti Semitism in places you might not typically
expect it, and things that end up being controversial that
really shouldn't be. And one is a new resolution in
(00:25):
the House of Representatives, and it's entitled denouncing the anti
Semitic terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, and it was introduced
by Gabe Evans, who was actually not the member of
Congress for Bolder. Gabe introduced this and the headline at
Axios Now tensions erupt in Congress over vote to condemn
(00:48):
Boulder attack.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Joining us to talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Why something that seems so ethical and obvious as denouncing
the anti Semitic terrorist attack in Boulder, Colorado, why would
that caused tensions? The man himself, Gabe Evans, Republican representing
Colorado's eighth Congressional district.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Gabe, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's always good to be on with you.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So Gabe, first just briefly describe what your resolution does
and then describe why this would cause tensions in Congress.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, you pretty much described it. It does two things.
It says that throwing molotov cocktails at the Jewish community
while shouting Freeze Palestine is anti Semitic speech and obviously
action which should be condemned. And then it also acknowledges tacitly.
So you know my background, I joined the military a
few years after September eleventh. One of the big things
(01:40):
that happened after September eleventh was this thing called the
nine to eleven Commission, which said how do we prevent
terrorist attacks from happening again in the United States? And
one of the takeaways of that was federal, state, and
local law enforcement need to be able to work together
and share information because they're all going to have different
pieces of the puzzle, and if you can't get all
of the pieces together, it's hard to be able to
solve that puzzle and interdict acts of terrorism before they occur.
(02:04):
And so then the second thing that the resolution says
is that we acknowledge that we should have that cooperation
between federal, state, and local government to be able to
identify and interdict these things, hopefully before they happen. This
individual that threw the molotov cocktails illegally present in the
United States. So Immigration and Customs, being one of the
federal law enforcement entities, is mentioned. Thank you for your
(02:27):
work in keeping a violent terrorist like this individual illegally
present in the United States. Thanks for keeping them out
of the country. And unfortunately that's something that apparently some
of my colleagues across the aisle in Congress also can't
get behind. Is praising law enforcement for their work at
all levels to be able to identify and interdict things
like this before they happen.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
A couple of quotes in this Axios piece are are remarkable,
even though I'm used to them by now. They quote
one senior House Democrats who they don't name, saying it's
sheer politics, and another senior House Democrat says, it's unfortunate
that they're using a serious anti Semitic terrorist attack as
a wedge opportunity.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
To divide Democrats.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
They knew what they were doing adding something like that
in there. So first of all, Gabe, were you, in
fact clever enough to realize that you were putting something
in this resolution that might cause a little political pain
for Democrats? I'm hoping the answer is yes.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I spent twenty two years as a top and a
soldier raised my right hand three times US Army, Colorado Army,
National Guard, or at a police department to take care
of my country, my state, my community, which by the way,
includes Boulder on more than one occasion, because I've mobilized
air crews to go fight wildfires and boulders in Boulder,
Colorado's my crew is my helicopter. That's me stand up
all night to put together those rosters to make sure
(03:48):
that we can put out fires in Boulder. So this
isn't my first time being involved in a tragedy in Boulder.
But what I bring to the table is solutions. How
do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Because thoughts
and condolences if we don't actually identify the problem and
work to solve the problem by saying things like federal,
state and local law enforcement need to be able to
work together. Colorado is a sanctuary state that does not
(04:10):
allow their state and local law enforcement to work with
the federal government when immigration is implicated, which it was
in this particular case. Because we know that this guy
that threw the molotov cocktail. In addition to being illegally
present in the United States and having made multiple public
statements in support of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is an
organization with known Jiehttist tendencies, he also tried to buy
(04:32):
a gun last year, which was denied by the state
agency that handled that is BBI, Colorado Bureau of Investigations.
That's literally what the takeaway of the nine to eleven
commission was around this information sharing was, if you have
somebody that's a sympathizer of the Muslim Brotherhood at a
time of heightened anti Semitism, which by the way, is
(04:55):
up over eight hundred percent over the last several years,
known be hot a sympathizer time of heightened anti semitism,
has overstayed, two visas, illegally present in the United States,
and trying to buy a gun, maybe that should raise
some red flags. But for these sanctuaries a pause in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
We got about a minute left. You did not answer
my question, and I'm going to ask you again.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Did you do some of this or much of this
or a little of this with a specific intention to
put democrats in a very tough spot.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I did this to solve the problem, and if they
can't get on board with trying to at least talk
about policies to solve the problem, they're the ones that
have put themselves in that tough spot by being unable
to acknowledge basic policy solutions to prevent something like this
from happening again.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I will again say to listeners that when you read
Gabe's resolution, and this is all linked on my blog
right now, to me, it all reads like pretty obvious,
common sense stuff that most people are thinking, and suddenly
it becomes it becomes a kind of thing that causes
a problem for Democrats in Congress because, as Gabe is
(06:06):
just describing, they are unable to say as clearly as
they should that they stand against terrorism. They are unable
to say that they stand against illegal immigrant criminals and
much less illegal immigration generally. And you know, again, Gabe,
I suspect you did this a little bit to put
(06:28):
them in a bad spot, and you just don't want
to admit it. And I hope, and I hope so
because they deserve to be in that bad spot. I'll
give you the last seventeen seconds.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I think you hit the nail on the head
right there. This is one hundred percent the doing of
the Democrats. They have put themselves in this position with
their inability to be able to condemn anti Semitism. I mean,
you had both elected Democrats from Boulder County at a
fundraiser with ilan Omar an hour after this attack happened.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
On the one hand, you could say that bad luck,
bad timing for them. On the other hand, nobody should
ever be supporting iohan Omar. She's one of the two
most egregious anti Semites in Congress, and the fact that
anybody would host her for anything is a stain on
those people. Congressman Gabe Evans is a Republican representing the
eighth Congressional District in Colorado. His new resolution in the
(07:20):
House of Representatives is entitled denouncing the anti Semitic terrorist
attack in Boulder, Colorado. Thanks for being here, Gab, and
thanks for bringing forward that resolution.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Paula's good to be on with you.
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