June 11, 2025 • 16 mins
Leland Vittert host's "On Balance" on News Nation weeknights at 7 PM MT (with replay at 10 PM). For me and Kristen, it's our one must-watch cable news show. I encourage you to subscribe (it's free!) to Leland's daily (afternoon) email, War Notes, which is really his show preparation. You'll be smarter if you do.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm so happy to welcome Leland Venter back to the show.
Leland is so dedicated to joining the Ross Kaminski Show
that he's he's decided to be here today with us
instead of on his honeymoon, and that I appreciate very
very much, Leland. Congratulations And uh, your weddings in People magazine.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, we know it's not not in People magazine because
of how I look. How about that?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well the hair? Yeah, well, you're you're, you're you're very
kind Ross to just remember, real friends show up. That's
what That's why I'm here for you. Uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And but seriously, congratulations, what a fabulous thing. And uh,
you've told me quite a bit about Rachel, but I
haven't met her yet and I can't wait to meet
her in person. But really, just tell us a little
bit about your wedding. And I want to know about
the ring bearer.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh, the ring bear. The ring bear is Dutch? Who
was our is our black lives?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And I'll put it this way.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I think after his performance it's one of those one
and done things. There wasn't a lot of people who
are now grappling for his.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Services to elaborate a little bit to paint a picture.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He just, you know, running running down the aisle back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He probably did not.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're there, they're brabspring bears were slightly more dedicated to
their job than to getting pets from everybody, uh along
the aisle.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Than he was. That's really funny.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So whose idea was it for your wedding to get
into People magazine?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't. I don't know these things, Ross, They just
happened in the night. They just these things happened to me.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Mm hmm. Definitely not my idea.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So you are even a little bit older than I
was when I got married. We're both fairly fairly old
at getting at getting married some years ago. Let's say,
when you got to your mid thirties, did you did
you expect to get married or were you thinking you
were going to live life as a happy bachelor forever
or like, was this kind of a surprise for you?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, Ross, I didn't know that there was a
Relationship Hour on koa Wednesday afternoon. Yeah. So I will
say this in my defense, I spent four years overseas,
and I feel like when you're overseas, those years don't
really count in your life, so I'm really like thirty
(02:32):
eight getting married, So I yeah, I think, And I
said this at the wedding to both my to the
assembled group that in that room we had of sixty
five people, we had a thousand combined years of marriage.
(02:55):
So my parents were married fifty three years. Actually yesterday
was their anniversary. Rachel we have nineteen thousand, three hundred
and fifty three days to go, and her parents have
been married forty plus years. And I think what was
interesting when both Rachel and I met, because we were both.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Older and had never been married.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is we both discussed how we really waited until we
found a relationship that was going to be like the
one our parents had and worthy of that kind of commitment.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's a great answer, you know. I don't think I
properly introduced Leland. I just started talking to him like
we showed up to have a beer together.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So this is Leland Vindert.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He hosts on Balance on News Nation at seven pm
and ten pm Mountain time. He also puts out every
day every day that he has a show and a
daily email. It actually comes in the afternoon, which I
think is great because I get bombarded with all kinds
of stuff in the morning and I end up not
paying that much attention to it. But his daily email
(03:57):
is called war Notes. You can go to warnoes dot com.
You can sign up for free, and you should as Leland,
as Leland says, with not too much humility, you will
be much smarter if you read his daily email. So
I will say you will be much smarter if you
if you read his daily his daily email.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I love your story and I'm just I'm about done.
That's right. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I played an interview earlier with a with a girl
who's a member of the party, the Socialist Party for
Liberation here in Denver. I don't think she cares to
be smarter, but most most people do. Last thing on
the whole relationship our thing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So if you take out your four years in the
Middle East, then you and I were with the same
age when we got married, and also first marriage for
both of us. But what I liked about your story
that isn't the same for my story, although would apply
to my wife but not to me, is you had
your parents as role models for a great, long lasting marriage,
(04:56):
and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Kristen did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But I love that both of you have parents who
are still together after all these years, and just you know,
modeling that to use an overused phraseology, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Been very important in both hers and my life.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
All right, let's move away from the relationship hour, which
you probably will you apparently didn't expect, but you should have.
Uh So, I want to talk a little bit about
all this stuff going on with the ice protests and
whether you think it's as as odd a choice as
I think it is for people to be waving Mexican
(05:36):
flags in these protests.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I think it's an odd choice if you, like me,
loves America and thinks that while it is still imperfect,
it is on its way as it always has been,
to being a more perfect union, and that America is
still the last best hope in the world. I don't
think these folks do, and I don't think these folks
(06:02):
who are waving Mexican flags and throwing Molotov cocktails at
police believe that being an American comes with rights and responsibilities,
and that we are all to be citizens requires us
(06:23):
to be sacrificial, and that what makes America great no
pun intended is the hard work of its citizens and
the sacrifice of its citizens. That does not seem to
be values that the people waving Mexican flags, throwing molotov cocktails,
throwing large pieces of concrete at police embody.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I caught two thirds of your show last night and
you had a lady on who I think she's a member. Oh,
you sent me a text member of kan represented. Okay,
I actually.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Saw congresswoman from California.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, so you just texted me this thing. But I
want you to know I actually did see it on
your show last night. I was watching and I thought
her answers I found surprising. Maybe I shouldn't, but it's
surprising in the sense of won't they ever learn, Like
I've heard this so many times before, these same lines,
and they keep losing with it. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What was surprising to me about her as a member
of Congress that was she could not answer really basic
questions and really basic questions about you know, connect the
dots for me from how we went from peaceful protests
against immigration raids to looting the apples store. Explain to
me how the National Guard is escalating things? How are
(07:53):
they the problem? People can go watch the interview for themselves.
It's on my Twitter. I'm sure to be on yours
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I think what it shows is that Democrats at
all have no plan other than to be against Donald Trump.
And that's really what this is exposed. And we saw
it last night when Gavin Newsom spoke, We've seen it
today that there is there is no plan other than
(08:24):
whatever Trump is for whatever Trump is doing, we're against
because it's awful. Trump could come out and say we're
going to cure cancer and the Democrats would say, see,
you're just trying to get more money in the pharmaceutical companies.
So that really now in twenty twenty, that kind of worked.
(08:47):
But I think what we're seeing is the end effect
of Donald Trump's ability to sort of break the minds
of his political opponents, which he has effectively done, I
think fully with Democrats.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So again go back to something I said a moment ago.
It's I understand that Trump can cause people to lose
their minds. What surprises me still even understanding that, is
how some of these folks can lose an election, lose
lose House seats, lose Senate seats, and frankly lose to
(09:23):
Donald Trump, who was not a strong candidate, by making
these arguments and statements like these, you know, demonizing ice
rather than illegal alien criminals and so on, and yet
they don't stop. It's the it's the why don't they
ever learn? Part that really has me a little bit mystified.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Learning's hard, and I think when to be fair when
you have someone who you find so offensive, And remember
what the Democratic Party really, starting with Obama, but sort
of with Obama as president, not Obama as candidates, has
(10:09):
become the party of progressivism. Now they can argue exactly
what their policies are, but their their worldview has become
more and more anti American, in that America is not exceptional,
America is racist, America is transphobic, America is broken the
(10:33):
neo Marxist worldview that there are the oppressed and the
oppressors based solely on outcomes, and therefore the only way
for America to realize its greatness is to institute some
type of Marxist like ideas that's effectively and I mean
a little bit pejorative of what the Democratic Party is.
(10:54):
And Donald Trump, in his also very imperfect way, came
in and said, no, America is America. And we saw
an election in twenty sixteen, we saw an election in
twenty twenty four that that sided with For as much
as people didn't like and don't like Donald Trump, they
(11:16):
like less democratic policies and progressivestm and so for Democrats,
giving up this sincerely held belief that Donald Trump is
the devil's politician is something that's really hard, and he
just effectively breaks their breaks any sense of normalcy. You know,
(11:42):
the one person who seems to be able to speak
as mine is John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, and he's been
ostracized by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Sticking still with this for one more minute and then
we'll switch gears. I actually laughed out loud, and you
probably did too when the camera wasn't on you for
a moment when Gavin Newsom started his thing and the
audio feed failed, and then later I think the whole
feed failed. It was I don't know there was there
was something poetic about that.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But when I see.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Gavin Newsom or think of Gavin Newsom, the word smarmy
always comes into my mind. Just too slick, too polished,
two pole tested, too hypocritical to everything but the do
it is clearly running for president, right.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It kind of reminded me of Ronda Santis' campaign launch.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Remember when he launched on Twitter because he was going
to be all new age and cool and then the
stream failed and nothing worked and it was a complete mass.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think that's accurate. Look, everyone says they want politicians
to be authentic, and somehow that has come to me
and people trying to mimic Donald Trump's approach. Donald Trump
isn't authentic because he's arrogant and bombastic. Donald Trump is
arrogant in bombastic and acts that way as a politician,
(13:11):
and therefore is authentic. Unfortunately, I think for Gavin Newsom,
everyone is getting to see the real Gavin Newsom in
the same way everybody in Iowa and New Hampshire got
to see the real Ron DeSantis. You know, nothing kills
(13:32):
a bad product faster than good advertising. And there's no
there's no surprise the Gavin Newsom wanted to do his
speech at six thirty Pacific time. Why because all of
the stations in California were in local news. Therefore they
(13:52):
took the six thirty. You know, they were in their
six thirty local newscast. So therefore they took Gaven Newsom's speech.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'll I'll just add that what you said, you know
what kills a bad brand is good advertising. That's exactly
also what happened to Kamala Harris. Right, the more people
got to know her, the more the more her numbers dropped.
All right, we have just a couple of minutes left.
We're talking with Leland Leland Vetter from News Nation. His
show is called On Balance. It is the show that
(14:19):
Kristin and I watch every night or record and watch
later if we can't watch it that moment seven pm
Mountain Time. Replay at ten pm Mountain Time. We watched
the earlier one. What are you working on for tonight's show?
That doesn't have anything to do with protests or immigration.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Nothing. It's that dominant a story.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Huh well, oh, actually, you know what, I take that back.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I just had to look at our rundown.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yes, it is that dominant of a story because I think,
as you point out, it defines the political conversation of
our time, and it becomes a.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Proxy for it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
For example, you know the the mayor of Chicago now
saying Donald Trump is a Tyrant.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, there are multiple kids.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There are multiple schools in Chicago where there's not a
single kid who can read it grade level. And the
mayor of Chicago's worried about Donald Trump. So that tells
you what's going on. One thing we are working on.
Brian Enton, a great reporter, has some exclusive reporting about
the attempted Chinese takeover by purchase of the waters supply
(15:31):
for much of New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Wow by a Chinese company. All right, got to see that, folks.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You got to check out News Nation, set your DVR,
watch it every night at six pm, or if you're
a later person than I am, at ten pm.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's the best show on cable news.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Go to warnotes dot com, war and ot s warnoes
dot com and sign up for Leland's free daily email.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You will be smarter, Leland.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
My friend, Congratulations, it looks like seriously, it looks like
it was a beautiful and meaningful wedding despite the ring bearer.
And and I look forward to toasting with you in
person one day soon.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Ross.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I was just honored to be the most important guest
at Rachel Putnam's wedding.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And you always will be. Thank you, thank you, all right.
That's uh, that's great. So yeah, oh my gosh my
friend got married. How crazy is that
I'm so happy to welcome Leland Venter back to the show.
Leland is so dedicated to joining the Ross Kaminski Show
that he's he's decided to be here today with us
instead of on his honeymoon, and that I appreciate very
very much, Leland. Congratulations And uh, your weddings in People magazine.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, we know it's not not in People magazine because
of how I look. How about that?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well the hair? Yeah, well, you're you're, you're you're very
kind Ross to just remember, real friends show up. That's
what That's why I'm here for you. Uh huh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
And but seriously, congratulations, what a fabulous thing. And uh,
you've told me quite a bit about Rachel, but I
haven't met her yet and I can't wait to meet
her in person. But really, just tell us a little
bit about your wedding. And I want to know about
the ring bearer.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh, the ring bear. The ring bear is Dutch? Who
was our is our black lives?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
And I'll put it this way.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I think after his performance it's one of those one
and done things. There wasn't a lot of people who
are now grappling for his.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Services to elaborate a little bit to paint a picture.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
He just, you know, running running down the aisle back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He probably did not.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're there, they're brabspring bears were slightly more dedicated to
their job than to getting pets from everybody, uh along
the aisle.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Than he was. That's really funny.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So whose idea was it for your wedding to get
into People magazine?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How did that happen?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't. I don't know these things, Ross, They just
happened in the night. They just these things happened to me.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Mm hmm. Definitely not my idea.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So you are even a little bit older than I
was when I got married. We're both fairly fairly old
at getting at getting married some years ago. Let's say,
when you got to your mid thirties, did you did
you expect to get married or were you thinking you
were going to live life as a happy bachelor forever
or like, was this kind of a surprise for you?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You know, Ross, I didn't know that there was a
Relationship Hour on koa Wednesday afternoon. Yeah. So I will
say this in my defense, I spent four years overseas,
and I feel like when you're overseas, those years don't
really count in your life, so I'm really like thirty
(02:32):
eight getting married, So I yeah, I think, And I
said this at the wedding to both my to the
assembled group that in that room we had of sixty
five people, we had a thousand combined years of marriage.
(02:55):
So my parents were married fifty three years. Actually yesterday
was their anniversary. Rachel we have nineteen thousand, three hundred
and fifty three days to go, and her parents have
been married forty plus years. And I think what was
interesting when both Rachel and I met, because we were both.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Older and had never been married.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Is we both discussed how we really waited until we
found a relationship that was going to be like the
one our parents had and worthy of that kind of commitment.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
That's a great answer, you know. I don't think I
properly introduced Leland. I just started talking to him like
we showed up to have a beer together.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So this is Leland Vindert.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He hosts on Balance on News Nation at seven pm
and ten pm Mountain time. He also puts out every
day every day that he has a show and a
daily email. It actually comes in the afternoon, which I
think is great because I get bombarded with all kinds
of stuff in the morning and I end up not
paying that much attention to it. But his daily email
(03:57):
is called war Notes. You can go to warnoes dot com.
You can sign up for free, and you should as Leland,
as Leland says, with not too much humility, you will
be much smarter if you read his daily email. So
I will say you will be much smarter if you
if you read his daily his daily email.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I love your story and I'm just I'm about done.
That's right. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I played an interview earlier with a with a girl
who's a member of the party, the Socialist Party for
Liberation here in Denver. I don't think she cares to
be smarter, but most most people do. Last thing on
the whole relationship our thing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So if you take out your four years in the
Middle East, then you and I were with the same
age when we got married, and also first marriage for
both of us. But what I liked about your story
that isn't the same for my story, although would apply
to my wife but not to me, is you had
your parents as role models for a great, long lasting marriage,
(04:56):
and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Kristen did.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
But I love that both of you have parents who
are still together after all these years, and just you know,
modeling that to use an overused phraseology, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Been very important in both hers and my life.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
All right, let's move away from the relationship hour, which
you probably will you apparently didn't expect, but you should have.
Uh So, I want to talk a little bit about
all this stuff going on with the ice protests and
whether you think it's as as odd a choice as
I think it is for people to be waving Mexican
(05:36):
flags in these protests.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I think it's an odd choice if you, like me,
loves America and thinks that while it is still imperfect,
it is on its way as it always has been,
to being a more perfect union, and that America is
still the last best hope in the world. I don't
think these folks do, and I don't think these folks
(06:02):
who are waving Mexican flags and throwing Molotov cocktails at
police believe that being an American comes with rights and responsibilities,
and that we are all to be citizens requires us
(06:23):
to be sacrificial, and that what makes America great no
pun intended is the hard work of its citizens and
the sacrifice of its citizens. That does not seem to
be values that the people waving Mexican flags, throwing molotov cocktails,
throwing large pieces of concrete at police embody.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I caught two thirds of your show last night and
you had a lady on who I think she's a member. Oh,
you sent me a text member of kan represented. Okay,
I actually.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Saw congresswoman from California.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, so you just texted me this thing. But I
want you to know I actually did see it on
your show last night. I was watching and I thought
her answers I found surprising. Maybe I shouldn't, but it's
surprising in the sense of won't they ever learn, Like
I've heard this so many times before, these same lines,
and they keep losing with it. Well.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What was surprising to me about her as a member
of Congress that was she could not answer really basic
questions and really basic questions about you know, connect the
dots for me from how we went from peaceful protests
against immigration raids to looting the apples store. Explain to
me how the National Guard is escalating things? How are
(07:53):
they the problem? People can go watch the interview for themselves.
It's on my Twitter. I'm sure to be on yours
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Ross.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I think what it shows is that Democrats at
all have no plan other than to be against Donald Trump.
And that's really what this is exposed. And we saw
it last night when Gavin Newsom spoke, We've seen it
today that there is there is no plan other than
(08:24):
whatever Trump is for whatever Trump is doing, we're against
because it's awful. Trump could come out and say we're
going to cure cancer and the Democrats would say, see,
you're just trying to get more money in the pharmaceutical companies.
So that really now in twenty twenty, that kind of worked.
(08:47):
But I think what we're seeing is the end effect
of Donald Trump's ability to sort of break the minds
of his political opponents, which he has effectively done, I
think fully with Democrats.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
So again go back to something I said a moment ago.
It's I understand that Trump can cause people to lose
their minds. What surprises me still even understanding that, is
how some of these folks can lose an election, lose
lose House seats, lose Senate seats, and frankly lose to
(09:23):
Donald Trump, who was not a strong candidate, by making
these arguments and statements like these, you know, demonizing ice
rather than illegal alien criminals and so on, and yet
they don't stop. It's the it's the why don't they
ever learn? Part that really has me a little bit mystified.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Learning's hard, and I think when to be fair when
you have someone who you find so offensive, And remember
what the Democratic Party really, starting with Obama, but sort
of with Obama as president, not Obama as candidates, has
(10:09):
become the party of progressivism. Now they can argue exactly
what their policies are, but their their worldview has become
more and more anti American, in that America is not exceptional,
America is racist, America is transphobic, America is broken the
(10:33):
neo Marxist worldview that there are the oppressed and the
oppressors based solely on outcomes, and therefore the only way
for America to realize its greatness is to institute some
type of Marxist like ideas that's effectively and I mean
a little bit pejorative of what the Democratic Party is.
(10:54):
And Donald Trump, in his also very imperfect way, came
in and said, no, America is America. And we saw
an election in twenty sixteen, we saw an election in
twenty twenty four that that sided with For as much
as people didn't like and don't like Donald Trump, they
(11:16):
like less democratic policies and progressivestm and so for Democrats,
giving up this sincerely held belief that Donald Trump is
the devil's politician is something that's really hard, and he
just effectively breaks their breaks any sense of normalcy. You know,
(11:42):
the one person who seems to be able to speak
as mine is John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, and he's been
ostracized by the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Sticking still with this for one more minute and then
we'll switch gears. I actually laughed out loud, and you
probably did too when the camera wasn't on you for
a moment when Gavin Newsom started his thing and the
audio feed failed, and then later I think the whole
feed failed. It was I don't know there was there
was something poetic about that.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But when I see.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Gavin Newsom or think of Gavin Newsom, the word smarmy
always comes into my mind. Just too slick, too polished,
two pole tested, too hypocritical to everything but the do
it is clearly running for president, right.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It kind of reminded me of Ronda Santis' campaign launch.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Remember when he launched on Twitter because he was going
to be all new age and cool and then the
stream failed and nothing worked and it was a complete mass.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I think that's accurate. Look, everyone says they want politicians
to be authentic, and somehow that has come to me
and people trying to mimic Donald Trump's approach. Donald Trump
isn't authentic because he's arrogant and bombastic. Donald Trump is
arrogant in bombastic and acts that way as a politician,
(13:11):
and therefore is authentic. Unfortunately, I think for Gavin Newsom,
everyone is getting to see the real Gavin Newsom in
the same way everybody in Iowa and New Hampshire got
to see the real Ron DeSantis. You know, nothing kills
(13:32):
a bad product faster than good advertising. And there's no
there's no surprise the Gavin Newsom wanted to do his
speech at six thirty Pacific time. Why because all of
the stations in California were in local news. Therefore they
(13:52):
took the six thirty. You know, they were in their
six thirty local newscast. So therefore they took Gaven Newsom's speech.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I'll I'll just add that what you said, you know
what kills a bad brand is good advertising. That's exactly
also what happened to Kamala Harris. Right, the more people
got to know her, the more the more her numbers dropped.
All right, we have just a couple of minutes left.
We're talking with Leland Leland Vetter from News Nation. His
show is called On Balance. It is the show that
(14:19):
Kristin and I watch every night or record and watch
later if we can't watch it that moment seven pm
Mountain Time. Replay at ten pm Mountain Time. We watched
the earlier one. What are you working on for tonight's show?
That doesn't have anything to do with protests or immigration.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Nothing. It's that dominant a story.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Huh well, oh, actually, you know what, I take that back.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I just had to look at our rundown.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yes, it is that dominant of a story because I think,
as you point out, it defines the political conversation of
our time, and it becomes a.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Proxy for it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
For example, you know the the mayor of Chicago now
saying Donald Trump is a Tyrant.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Okay, there are multiple kids.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There are multiple schools in Chicago where there's not a
single kid who can read it grade level. And the
mayor of Chicago's worried about Donald Trump. So that tells
you what's going on. One thing we are working on.
Brian Enton, a great reporter, has some exclusive reporting about
the attempted Chinese takeover by purchase of the waters supply
(15:31):
for much of New Hampshire.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Wow by a Chinese company. All right, got to see that, folks.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You got to check out News Nation, set your DVR,
watch it every night at six pm, or if you're
a later person than I am, at ten pm.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
It's the best show on cable news.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Go to warnotes dot com, war and ot s warnoes
dot com and sign up for Leland's free daily email.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You will be smarter, Leland.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
My friend, Congratulations, it looks like seriously, it looks like
it was a beautiful and meaningful wedding despite the ring bearer.
And and I look forward to toasting with you in
person one day soon.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's gonna be a lot of fun. Ross.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I was just honored to be the most important guest
at Rachel Putnam's wedding.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And you always will be. Thank you, thank you, all right.
That's uh, that's great. So yeah, oh my gosh my
friend got married. How crazy is that
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