07-21-25 - *FULL SHOW* Jimmy Sengenberger Filling In For Ross Kaminsky

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Ladies and Gentleman Roskaminsky Show has been co opted, and
Jimmy Sangenberger is here because a Rod is behind the
glass and that means he's got to get the harmonica
intro properly programmed in and ready to go.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
To pull back the curtain, I let I let the
right amount of imaging get through, let people know what
they're listening to me.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
But then I go, you know what it's like, that's
what you do when I fill in for Mandy. You're
behind the glass today, So.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I to pull back the curtain even further.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I did really like you going, this is this is
this is this is Ross show. You should do this
on Mandy Show. And I'm like you for a second,
I'm the boss right now. I am letting know who
they got Ladies and gentlemen and Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sangen Berger along for the ride with a Rod producing,
and we have to nerd out for a second because
Ladies and Gentlemen A Rod finally finished Star Wars and
Or season two, which gosh, I would have to say
this even if you are not a Star Wars fan,

(01:21):
as Mandy is not particularly a Star Wars fan, I'm
not sure about Ross. He's got to like Star Wars, right,
I actually don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I gotta find that out because nailed it on the
head and or is beyond genre. Yes, it is that
good of writing, that excellent of acting, that fantastic pacing.
Star Wars are not that show and it stands alone.
It's really good if.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
You love drama, if you love action, if you love
a spy thriller. It's like, yes, Star Wars sci Fi
meets James Bond. It's a powerfully written, just dramatic production.
It's this coalescence of different brilliant elements of media.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's sort of like in I have to say over
in Star Trek.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
One thing that they do is they have sort of
a variety of the different shows that they can bring
in genres and.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Sort of meld.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Sometimes they have more horror episodes or you know, there
was a musical episode on the Star Trek Strange New
World Show in the second season that actually turned out really,
really good. I was like, what the heck, You're doing
a musical. When you blend genres in a creative way,
sometimes it just works.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
In this case, it's seamless and.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
If you're more of a film person.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
It perfectly leads into another standalone product, Rogue one. Yes,
everyone knows the Empire and Darth Vader and all that.
Even if you're not a Star Wars guy, you know
what those are. And those tie ins beautifully led right
into Yes, that.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Movie absolutely perfectly done by Tony Gilroy. Really the Gilroy
brothers got a brother or is it two brothers who
are involved in writing that. People might be saying, why
are you starting the show like this?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Because Jimmy's been trying to get me to watch Andel
for a long time and I said, eh, you know, eh,
not really into it. Yeah, I know I was wrong,
and Jimmy has to make sure I've been put in
my place, and I have been happily.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yes, it is one of those shows that, to me
so much is about liberty too. I mean, we love
to talk about the importance of individual liberty. That is
what and Or is about is the fight against an
encroaching state and the growth and the start really of

(03:42):
a rebellion against that growing expansive state that is taking
away individual liberties and massacring innocent civilians and doing all
kinds of things that I don't want to spoil, so
I'm going to leave it there. But they really paint
a great picture of an empire of a government that

(04:04):
is literally oppressive in every way.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I think every Ross listener is questioning your hosting of
the show right now because Ross is the president of
the Bad Analogy Club.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Jimmy, that was a great analogy I try.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
You know what, when you're.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
The chair, sometimes you just got to outshine the host
on one.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Or two things.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
When you oust the president of the Bad Analogy Club,
you might as well began good, Adam, And you started
off the show seven minutes in by maybe setting the
bar a bit too high for yourself.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I probably is the case, and we've got three hours
to go on the program. And look, when it comes
to the expansive power of government, that means making sure
that you are involved and engaged. Over the weekend, I

(04:53):
had a great time at the Summit County Republican Party's
Lincoln Day Roundup.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
This was in Frisco.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Absolutely beautiful place that they held this event. It is
gotta be one of, if not the best Lincoln Day
dinners that I've ever been to, and I've been to
very many over the last gosh since probably since I
was in high school, so twenty years almost that really,

(05:24):
I think was a lot of fun. I spoke, I
was the featured speaker, and I talked about how you
can reach and bridge divides among generations, and that means
in large parts and bringing moderates into the fold and
what have you. And that means focusing on kitchen table issues,

(05:46):
focusing on the things that are impacting people on a
day to day basis. And that does include making compelling
cases for why government is the root of the problem,
from either overregulation to sometimes when it comes to crime,
not being strong enough or enforcing the law the way

(06:08):
it needs to be. So as an example, I talked
about the fact that I am a three time victim
of auto theft. You know this story a rod and
we've talked about it on the air before. But this
happened twenty twenty twice and then twenty twenty two. And
one of the precipitating factors of this was COVID and

(06:31):
a lot of things going on with COVID and pulling
back on law enforcement. But also they had been weakening
the laws on auto thefts. Well, they finally went about
after unfortunately, after I had endured my three auto thefts.
They finally went about strengthening the laws just a little

(06:52):
bit and you can see a drop or at least
to decline in auto thefts. We are still one of
the leading countries. Last I saw the data for auto theft,
but it went down. Now that is a question of
law enforcement and whether or not law enforcement has the

(07:13):
tools to enforce the law, and whether the law is
in place for them to address it. And in this case,
we are talking about stealing people's personal property. And what
is one of the most fundamental aspects of liberty, and
that is property, the right to property. Remember John Locke

(07:33):
had life, liberty and property. Then that was changed in
the Declaration of Independence the life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness. And if you allow thieves to just take
property with impunity, then.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
That means that.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You're eroding property rights from that vantage point, let alone
from the all knowing, all power government that might want
to trample upon your property rights, which then brings us
back to Star wars end Or because property rights clearly
are not in any way, shape or form respected in

(08:13):
that show. Would you agree with me on that a
rod I would, And that's all I can say about that.
But the bottom line is liberty is important. Property rights
are essential, and you got to watch Star Wars Indor
whether you love it or not. Take it from Jimmy
and a Rod. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Ross

(08:37):
Kaminski on this Monday morning. We have lots to dive
into today and we are just getting started.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Keep it right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So yesterday with Sunday, and you know Sunday a lot
of times offices aren't full speed ahead right.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yet.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I don't know you could tell that to Jason crow
Congressman four the sixth Congressional District too. And I've got
the sound here I want to play for you. Yesterday
was outside at the ice facility where he recorded a
little video with a complaint on a Sunday.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
I'm Congressman Jason Crowe from Colorado sixth District and I'm
outside of the Aurora Ice Processing facility.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
This is an ice detention center.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
That's run by the Geo Corporation and I just attempted
to conduct an oversight visited the facility pursuant of federal law.
So Public Law one eighteen Desk four seven, Section five
two seven says that members of Congress I must be provided.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Immediate access to facilities.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Like the one behind me here to conduct oversight.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Again, I was just in there.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
It was a denied access and violation a federal law
to this facility. So listen, one of my biggest obligations
as a member of Congress is the conduct oversite, to
show up and to make sure the taxpayer dollars are
being used in accordance with my constituents values, but also
in accordance with law. And that's certainly not what is

(10:06):
happening here today.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, I am playing the world's smallest harmonica
for Adjason Crow, because woe is him. He shows up
on a Sunday expecting full access. And John FABRICATORI, the
former Denver Ice Field Director, tweeting for himself in response

(10:29):
to Congressman Crow, just laid it out brilliantly. You went
there on a Sunday knowing no one from Ice was there,
and that GEO that is the company that manages the facility,
the private company was.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Working with a weekend crew.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
This is one hundred percent performative and is just like you,
nothing more.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Than a puppet show.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You run your mouth, but do nothing when Democrats are
using the same detention facility when they are in power.
And that is exactly right. When did Jason Crow make
a special stop at an ice facility when Biden was president?
I'm unaware of any times that that was the case.

(11:17):
Making a big stink about it on a Sunday was
powerful as well. To see Cindy Romero. Remember Cindy Romero.
She is the woman who lived in one of the
Aurora apartment complexes and it was her video that went
viral of trend de at aguall gang members going door

(11:41):
to door and she retweeted Crow. And she's a constituent
of Crow. I believe she still is, or at least
she was. My family and I were tortured and harassed
by gang members for a year. Well, you helped the
legal invaders gain a foothold in this country. You're useless
and ineffective as a leader. Cry harder, cry louder. You

(12:02):
will get no sympathy from us. I mean, this is
the guy, one of the many guys who did not
take it seriously.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I don't care where you are.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
In terms of some of the immigration policies of the
Trump administration, I can get some of the criticisms, but
to deny with your head in the sand as Jason Crow,
who's got to go as Jason Crowe did for the
entirety of the time, of the whole story and beyond,

(12:34):
I don't think since then he's really acknowledged what has
happened there at these apartment complexes and what we know
is the case and the chaos, and really you think
about it, the mistreatment and abuse of illegal immigrants that
were placed into those.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Apartments thinking they.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Needed to pay rent to the gang bangers as opposed
to the apartment complex owners.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
The whole thing was a mess.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
The whole thing was terrifying and still trendad Agua has
a presence in Aurora, in the Denver area, and Jason
Crow has his head in the sand, and now he
expects us to accept the woe is me.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I'm now one of the other Democrats who shows up.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
At some kind of a federal building and I'm denied
access when he chooses to do so on a Sunday
when things are exactly as John Fabricatory laid out, and
Fabricatory knows this and how things operate on Sundays because
he was an ice field director, the ice field director
for Denver, And those are just a few thoughts that

(13:51):
come to my mind about Jason Crow playing games here.
It's nonsense from top to bottom, performative, but that is
what Jason Crow is so much about. I really just
don't think he's kinda even a half decent job representing
his constituents. We disagree on policy, but I think he's

(14:14):
off the wall in so many areas. And it is
disappointing to know that in my old congressional district of
the sixth that Jason Crow, who's again really got to go,
is still there, and quite frankly, in this district now,
he will be there as long as he wants to

(14:34):
be there. Another hot one outside, I mean this weather.
It's just been boiling hot, and it is great to
be with you as the sun is shining and the
winds are changing. And I'm not talking about the weather
at this point. I mean as far as K through twelve,
education is concerned with parental rights, the exposure of the

(15:00):
teachers' unions and the ways in which they have operated
for years with impunity, and now they're finally under a
microscope and more. That's why I'm very pleased to welcome
to the program. Corey DeAngelis. He is known as the
school choice evangelist. He's a senior fellow at the American

(15:22):
Culture Project, author of the book The Parent Revolution, and
so many more titles too many to count, I think
at this point, brother Corey, welcome back to KOA.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Hey, thanks, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
What are you feeling right now in the wins?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
When I say there's a shift do you really feel
like there is right now across the country when it
comes to an understanding of the important role, the essential
role of parents and their right to ensure the upbringing
of their kids, including the education that they get.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Absolutely, we're winning so much. I'm moments getting tired of winning. Jimmy,
just kidding. We're not done yet. We haven't gotten school
choice in yet. But Trump won the parent vote by
nine points after running on the issues of school choice
and abolishing the Department of Education consistently. And there were
two polls before election day by Atlas Intel nationwide polls

(16:16):
showing that Trump was beating Kamala Harris on education, and
an earlier poll showed that when Biden was still in
the race, Trump was beating him on the issue of
education too, which basically never happened. The Democrats have had
a decade long double digit advantage on the issue of
education because well, they were seen as the party that

(16:36):
was just going to throw more money at the problem.
It's the definition of insanity. But the conversation has shifted
to being about who do I try trust to be
the person that's going to allow me to direct the
upbringing of my children. And the GOP has basically emerged
as the parents party, and Trump won with education voters

(16:59):
with parents, and now he's trying to take steps to
dismantle that unconstitutional Department of Education once and for all.
He's giving it death by a thousand cuts. With Lynda
McMahon on the inside. They've taken a move to fire
about fourteen hundred of about half of their employees. It's
a good start, it's a good step in the right direction.

(17:20):
A lower course sided with the teachers union to try
to block this from happening. Well, guess what. Last week,
we just had a victory at the Supreme Court. It
should have been unanimous. It was a six' to. Three,
jimmy we had three liberal justices who don't know what
a woman, Is so it doesn't really surprise me that
they got this decision. Wrong but the majority prevailed and

(17:42):
now the Greenlit trump's plan to continue with these mass
firings at The. Department and the logic is pretty. Simple
it shouldn't have been required to go to The Supreme,
court but we had a judicial activist at A massachusetts
that sided With Randy weingarten and against. Parents the logic was,
Clear trump as the chief executive can manage the executive.

(18:06):
BRANCH i, mean this isn't rocket. Science it should have been.
Unanimous but the, dissent the liberal, justices basically had pretzel.
Logic their argument, was, well Because trump said he wants
to abolish the, department well that means anything that he
does to manage that department therefore constitutes abolishing the, department

(18:30):
which that makes. Zero you can still manage an existing
agency without totally getting rid of that. Agency so this
is a step in the right. Direction and look at
the state level where most of the magic is. Happening
we've had seventeen states past universal school choice for all,

(18:51):
families regardless of income or. Background in the past four years,
alone we've had more advancement on school choice than than
in the seating for, decades and The Big beautiful billages
passed out Of, congress and whether you like it or,
not there were good parts or not so good. Parts

(19:11):
one of the best parts is that school choice passed
in The Big beautiful. Bill so now there's a nationwide
school choice initiative for people in red states and blue.
States BUT i will say after The senate parliamentarian stripped
the program out of the bill in order to get
it back, in there was a requirement for an opt,

(19:32):
in So blue states could decide to continue to stop
doing the school. Choice so is in the hands of the.
Governor hey he thinks he pretends he's a libertarian libertarian
position in an anti government control. Position to be able
to choose the education for your, child it shouldn't be

(19:52):
partisan at. All democrats support it when it comes to their.
Voters it just so happens that their elected officials are
fully own subsidiaries of the teachers, unions THE, nea the
a F. T they are money laundering operations for The democrat.
Party but Maybe jared Polis can can give the thumbs
up and, say, hey my constituents can donate to the

(20:13):
scholarship program regardless of his decision or.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
On let me let me jump. In let me jump
in for a, Moment, corey BECAUSE i want to ask
you to clarify about what this provision in the Big
Beautiful bill. Does in part from this vantage, point you
AND i are both in strong agreement that the Federal
department Of education is, unconstitutional not only that its dramatically

(20:40):
hampered and held down the quality of education in this
country because of massive federal, overreach so on and so.
Forth does having this, provision how is it? Structured and
is it is it done in a way that does
not overreach in the way that, say we see.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
From The department Of.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Education because one might say you're sort of contradicting yourself
by advocating a provision like, This but is it really a.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Contradiction it is.

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Not it's a we can't make perfect the enemy of the.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Good you.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Can you can understand that we shouldn't have a, department
but still accept a step in the right direction in
terms of incremental. Reform you get into these battles with
some of the libertarians sometimes they'll say we shouldn't have
any government funding of education at. All it's, Like, okay
MAYBE i agree with, you but that doesn't mean we
reject any change to the status. Quo that's probably not

(21:31):
gonna happen totally abolishing the school, system so we might as,
well if we're gonna pay for, it allow families to
choose where to take that, money whether it's a public
school or a private. School so don't overthink. It but
it's even more even on more solid grounds when it
comes to this, provision because this is a federal tax,
credit uses no federal dollars at. All it's you keeping

(21:54):
more of your own funding instead of sending it To, WASHINGTON.
Dc so it also has anti regulation language built into the,
bill into the provision that wasn't a big beautiful, bill
and it's all. Voluntary families don't have to to to
use the, program they don't have to donate to the,

(22:16):
program so you should be able to weigh those costs
and benefits for. Yourself and so there's still you, know
freedom and education when it comes to being able to.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Choose and.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
The program is neither run nor regulated via The department Of,
education so you can do two things at. Once you
can you can you could get rid of that department
if we had enough votes to do so to bust
the filibuster in The, senate WHICH i don't think we
have those votes right, now but even if we, did
we could abolish that department and still have this federal tax,

(22:55):
credit which is which is making all the right people right.
Now by the, Way Randy, weingarten and thank You, pringle
the head of the teachers, unions they're freaking. Out they
were so happy when The democrat appointed parliamentarians stripped it
out of a bill after it passed out of The.
House Ted crew the other freedom fighters in The senate
made sure it got put back, in and they did

(23:18):
have to have a little bit of a compromise with
allowing states to opt. Out but, look something's better than.
Nothing i'd rather take a ninety percent, victory even if
it's not one hundred percent, victory because that's still better
than zero.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Percent let's talk for a, Moment Corey deangelist our guests
about The Federal department Of education a little, more because
there are some misnomers about. This one of the pieces
is that if you get rid of The Federal department Of,
education then that Means title nine is going to be left.
Asunder you're going to have all kinds of protections for disabled,

(23:58):
kids so on and so. Forth that isn't true because
there's an entirely different way that you could go about
it without having that.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Bureaucracy. Right, Yeah first of.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
ALL i would say, that you, know even if we
did it and totally abolished it and didn't move any
of those programs, elsewhere those special needs programs aren't really
leading to better outcomes for those. Kids they're failing them
more than anybody else in the one size fits all
government runs school. System title nine isn't protecting. Kids the
throwing more money at the problem hasn't solved any of the.

(24:31):
ISSUES i, mean, Look, jimmy since nineteen eighty when we've
had The department basically, start spending has increased since that
time by about one hundred and eight percent per student
after adjusting for. Inflation have the outcomes gotten one hundred
and eight percent? Better, no they obviously. Haven't but it's
their argument is even they're arguing with the straw man.

(24:52):
Here The democrats are saying that this is going to defund.
Education but the plan has been clear from the, start From,
trump From, linda from The, republicans and even in the Villain.
Congress it's called The Returning education To Our State act
By Senator mike Round out Of South. Dakota the money
is blocked granted back to the. States so what does that.
Mean you're going to have more money in the, classroom

(25:14):
more money for education than you have, today and without
raising any. Taxes why because you'll be wasting less of
that funding on useless bureaucrats pushing paper thousands of miles
away In, washington d. C if you don't have to
pay for. Them you'll have more local. Control that funding
will go directly into the, classroom towards the most vital educational,

(25:35):
resource which happens to be the teacher and those supplies
in the. Classroom and so you'll be better. Off but
the teachers unions and The, democrats they Have trump arrangement.
Syndrome so they're not going to handle the. Facts they're
going to argue against something that isn't even on the,
table and so they're using this as a way to

(25:57):
fear longer to try to pick up some votes the.
Midterms but, Look trump campaign on this, issue send the money,
back have more local. Control he won on the. Issue
he won with, parents and so The democrats if they were,
smart they'd come along and support this idea because let's
say you're A democrat Representing, california you want more of

(26:18):
that money handled by your state to spend on education
instead of it being dictated by the Federal department Of.
Education it's a win win. Solution everybody should be on
board with. It but the teachers unions have just lost
their minds and that hasn't Become it's become so clear
after their annual convention this, year where they were just

(26:41):
screaming on, stage not passing anything to do with, education
and tons of resolutions that had to do with that
read more like a declaration of war on The trump
administration than anything.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Else.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Jimmy in one of these THAT i leaked to the,
public they devoted that they committed to spending thousands of
dollars to basically Call trump of. Fascist and in that
resolution they misspelled the word. FASCISM i, mean you almost
can't make this stuff up for me to Call trump of.
Fascist they misspelled the, word and this is we're talking

(27:17):
about the duly elected president of The United states where
they're trying to label this. Term they passed another one
to basically call any move to dismantle The department Of education.
Racist anything they don't like is either racists or. Fascist
they just named. Calls nothing is rooted in, logic and if,
anything keeping that department around is, racist more racist than

(27:41):
getting rid of. IT i, mean if you look at the,
outcomes there's the disparities by, income by race you have
In New York. City for, example only thirteen percent of
black kids In New York city are proficient in. Math
that is a failure of the government school. System that
is a failure of the teachers, unions and they spend
forty thousand dollars per kid per year In New York.

(28:04):
City we should return education to The, states put more
money into the classroom have would be spent more. Wisely
but we need school choice too because that provides the
competition to put that money in the right.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Place there was even a provision or an Attempt coridangelis
at The National Education association's convention to ban materials from
The Anti Defamation, league which there are a lot of
criticisms from Conservative jews THAT i know of THE adl
and how they have. Operated but for the left to

(28:39):
basically turn for many of them to turn on THE
adl and try and get The Teachers' union to be
used as one of those vehicles for anti.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Semitism was really.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
STUNNING i, mean it was nice that they rejected the,
proposal but the fact that it was actually presented and
then had legs and could have been passed is absolute to.

Speaker 6 (29:00):
Me, yeah. Insane they're picking all the just the wrong,
Battles like why even get into, That like you shouldn't
even be discussing these. Issues you should be passing resolutions
TO i don't, know improved student. Learning oh, well guess, What,
jimmy you know. This but in twenty, nineteen they tried
to pass the resolution to do. THAT i guess one

(29:21):
of The conservatives put the resolution down to rededicate themselves
to being about student. Learning they soundly rejected that resolution
to realign their mission to be about student. LEARNING i,
mean it's just. Insane they have become a political, organization
not an educational. Organization and another resolution this year that,

(29:44):
which by the, way they used to make these public
until they started to get. Pushback they were. PRIVATE a
member leaked them to me AND i put them all
over the internet and it made international. News it's just
they're like cockroaches some way is the best. Disinspectant but
once you start to root out some of this, evil
they start to run away and. Hide but they can
only run so far and hide for so. Long they

(30:07):
had another resolution to basically spend over two hundred thousand.
Dollars they passed it to subvert the will of parents
to get around a Recent Supreme court case decision that
was on the side of. Parents it was The Mamoudvie taylor,
decision which now allows parents nationwide to pull their kids,

(30:30):
out to opt out of gender ideology. Instruction and so
that's a big win for rental. Rights but the unions
now they're playing games and trying to coach teachers on
how to get around that decision to continue to inject
gender ideology political nonsense into the. Classroom why don't they

(30:51):
focus on the. BASICS i, mean only a quarter of
kids are proficient in math, nationwide according to the nation's report.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Cards to spend.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Twenty thousand dollars per kid per year nationwide on, average
that's about fifty to sixty percent higher than average private school.
Tuition and so enough is. Enough you, know lawmakers last
week just filed a bill to revoke that union's federal,
charter which raises the, question what does that and why

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do they have. One they're the only union in the
country that has a federal. Charter they had these special
privileges bestowed to them By congress over one hundred years
ago in nineteen oh, six and they've strayed so far
from their original mission from being ABOUT i don't, know
protecting teachers to they've they've turned into this political animal

(31:42):
where ninety eight percent of their campaign contributions every single
election cycle got A. Democrat that's a money laundering. Operation
wash rinse. Repeat it ought to be, illegal and they
they should no longer have this special. Status and so
there's a bill In congress to pull it right. Now
and even if you're A, democrat you should be in

(32:03):
favor of this, too because THE nea is not the
only union in the. Country Randy weingarten should be pissed about.
This she's the head of THE. Aft she doesn't have
a federal, charter she doesn't get these special. Privileges she
doesn't get these tax benefits IN dc that THE nea.
Get she doesn't get these this authority bestowed By. CONGRESS i,

(32:25):
mean why should any union have the backing Of. CONGRESS
fdr had it. Right we shouldn't have any public sector.
Unions there's an inherent conflict of. Interest they put the
same people in office as mayors or what have, you
or people in the, legislature and that they bargain. With,
YEAH i, mean in the private, sector union's bargain with

(32:45):
their bosses, basically but in the public, sector they're bargaining
with their. Allies and we see this so clear In.
Chicago the mayor Of chicago Is Brandon, johnson and he
was A chicago teacher junion ORGANIZER us who is his
main contributor was to his campaign?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Unions could it?

Speaker 6 (33:05):
BE i mean it's, yeah, yeah it's it's it's an
incestuous relationship between the teachers unions about that, party the
people that they're bargaining. With and so at the very,
least we should revoke any special. Status and you know,
What American federation Of, teachers you used to, say, well
we don't have. THIS i think why should have? It

(33:26):
you're outside the right actually last week out front of
THE na offices In, washington D. C calling On congress
to revoke the federal. Charge there's a lot of teachers
who say no. WAY i don't want to get into
this political. NONSENSE i just want to. Teach and being
represented By Becky, pringle.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
We gotta leave it, there.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Brother the book is the Parent, revolution rescuing your kids
from the radicals ruining our. Schools AND i got to
say great reference TO. FDR i have written about and
talked about his opposition to public sector unions for, years
and this is the case and point right onto the
teachers' unions in THE nea and then trampling upon parental

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rights in school choice and so much, more including just
having a decent quality. Education coriy DeAngelis thanks brother once.
Again coryd angelis joining us here on the program On.
THURSDAY i will be filling in For Mandy connell from
noon to, three and among my guests will Be Priscilla,
ron my good, friend teacher extraordinariy In Denver Public schools

(34:30):
and author of the new Book Restoring education In, america
an inspirational Teacher. Toolbox keep it, Here, jimmy and for
Ross on Koa.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Gotta, LOVE i.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Got to, LOVE i gotta love.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It time now for the second, Hour Jimmy singenberger in
For Ros kaminski this, morning and it is a pleasure
and a privilege to be with. You and you know
we've got the harp going. THERE i should share that
this Coming sunday from three to six, pm My Jimmy
Junior Blues band has a. Gig we will be performing

(35:15):
at The Genesee pub And barbecue again this Coming, sunday
And i'm really looking forward to. It come on out
three to six.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Pm would love to see you.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
There so, look there is consistently we hear it, now in,
fact we're hearing it more and more from the. Left
but we have heard for a very long time claims
of rigged. Elections we will get to twenty sixteen in
a little while and talk About Tulci, gabbard The director

(35:51):
Of National, intelligence and what she has claimed and brought
out regarding twenty. Sixteen but we have heard a lot
About republicans and how the right is obsessed with talking
about rigged elections stolen elections from twenty. Twenty and, yes
there are a lot of folks who are who put
forward consistently falsities about the twenty twenty, election or about

(36:15):
flipping votes through electronic machines or what have. You but
WHAT i want to talk about isn't about. That it's
not about the right at. All on the, contrary it
is about The democrats and there now attempts to go

(36:37):
after THE gop and claim that they are trying to
rig elections ahead of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Midterms we are going.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
To be successful regardless of what they do In. Texas
but the principle of free and fair elections is one
that we should fight. For and These republicans are trying
to disenfranchise millions of voters In texas as part of
a scheme to rig the midterm.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Elections a scheme to rig the mid term. Elections that
Is Hakim, jeffries The House Minority, leader head of The
Democratic caucus in THE Us, house and he went further
in talking about The republicans attempting to cheat to.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
Win House republicans have been a complete and total failure
for The american. People they have no credible track record of.
Success that's Why House republicans are afraid of the voters
in twenty twenty six in the midterm, elections and they're
trying to cheat to, win cheat to, WIN i, mean.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But this is what majorities. Do they redraw.

Speaker 7 (37:46):
Lines it is completely and totally unprecedented to engage in
mid decade redistricting that is only being done Because House
republicans In texas and Beyond, no they have no track
record of success the.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Law so this comes down to at least the claim
From jeffries that The republicans are trying to, jerrymannder that
is to, say to redistrict In texas to create More
republican congressional districts so they can have More republicans in
The house Of representatives after the twenty twenty six mid

(38:24):
term elections next. Year that is the claim that this
is all And President trump didn't help matters of course by, saying,
WELL i think we could pick up five Six republican
seats through doing. This but what we saw is That Harmi,
dylan she is The Justice Department Civil Rights division, head

(38:50):
has pinpointed four different congressional districts and is concerned about
the racial makeup of those districts and how it is, unconstitutional,
illegal and that the state has to immediately rectify the
alleged racial gerrymanders and if it chose not, to was

(39:10):
at risk of legal action by The Attorney. General quote
the congressional districts at issue are nothing more than vestiges
of an, unconstitutional racially based jerrymandering, past which must be
abandoned and must now be corrected By. Texas so at,

(39:33):
least coming out of The Justice, department they're providing a
specific legal. Rationale this is Why texas has to do
redistricting to comply with the. Law and not only Are
democrats turning this into a matter Of oh The democrats
are cheating to win and to rig the, elections but
they are wanting to play the game. Themselves so this

(39:56):
is from an interview That jeffries did over the weekend ON,
cnn and he was asked about an attempt to jerrymander In.
California are you supportive of this effort In california changing
lives In california to respond to what's going on In.

Speaker 7 (40:14):
Texas i'm going to let the governor Of california speak
for himself and the people Of, california as well as
the leaders of The california.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Delegation let me just pause there and, say that is a.
Dodge that is what we call a. Dodge he is
willing to talk About, texas and, oh my, gosh look
at what's happening In texas but Not. California, Oh i'm
going to let the governor make that decision and speak for.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Himself really a Keem jeffries.

Speaker 7 (40:41):
Put in my, view all options are on the table
in terms of making sure that there are fair maps throughout.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
The, country fair.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
Maps the people Of texas are at risk of not
having fair. Maps we have a responsibility of making sure
that we look at every single state of The union
and do what we can to ensure that we maximize
fairness in those.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Juristics when that maximize fairness in those, Jurisdictions, so how
About New York, state a Solidly democrat. State are they
possibly an instance where jerrymannering or or redistricting for fair
maps would Be, okay.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
Let me just simply say the maps In New york
are not as fair as they could.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Be that sounds to me like you're open to. CHANGING
i look forward to.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Having a conversation with the governor about how do we
ensure That New york maps are as fair as possible
in an environment where you've got extreme Maga republicans And
Donald trump doing everything they can to undermine the will
of the voters and undermine the principle of free and
fair elections FOR us, countries.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
And we are standing up for fair. Maps We democrats
want free and fair. Elections when we want to redistrict
In california And New, york two most populous states in
the nation along With, Califora texas And, florida and we

(42:09):
want to read, District, oh that's, okay Because i'm not
sure That New york's districts and he's From New York,
state That New york's districts are as fair as they could.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Be we need better.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Maps listen to the rhetoric and how he skews this
whole notion of rigged And republicans are the bad.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Guys we have a situation Where republicans are unleashing every
malignant scheme possible to try to undermine the principle of
free and fair elections and to disenfranchise millions of people
In texas and beyond, that it is incumbent upon all
of us to take a close look at how do

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we ensure that the congressional map writ large is as
fair as. Possible in advance of the.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Mid Manu raju over AT, cnn did an excellent job
pushing back a little bit on this and, saying, well
isn't this sort of What republicans are doing that you're?
Proposing and what do you say TO i, mean isn't this?
Politics and just how sort of the game is? Played
and he's trying to dodge these questions and basically say,

(43:21):
not basically literally Say republicans don't want fair. Maps republicans
want to undermine free and fair. Elections but trust, us The,
democrats we are noble with noble. Intentions no neither party
when it comes to redistricting is. Noble you want to

(43:42):
skew the maps however you can for your own political.
Advantage and both sides are now ready to engage in this.
Battle whether they should or not is another, question but
the fact that they are just shows the politics is at.
Play and in this, case The democrat are using the
rhetoric of rigged elections That republicans have been, using but

(44:04):
That democrats used, before bottom line claims of stolen, elections
claims of rigged elections as a bipartisan. Pastime and it
shows no signs of stopping any time. Soon oh the
absurd world we live. In I'm Jimmy sangenberger in For Ross.
Kaminski lots more up. Ahead what are your thoughts on

(44:27):
the political gamesmanship text us on THE Koa Common Spirit
health text line five six six nine Zero keep it
here ON. Koa when politicians want to run for, office
don't tell them you, can't because they're going to do it.
Anyway even In New York city When Mom donnie The
communist is poised to win because three Candidates Eric, Adams

(44:53):
Andrew cuomo And Kurtis sliwa are split in the opposition,
votes even on a situation where you have ranked choice,
voting that could be a recipe for. Disaster over On Fox,
News Matt towery Of inside Or, advantage he's a pulse
read this to say about.

Speaker 8 (45:12):
That but you've got three political egos stuck in the
race right now running against, him and none of them
will get, out and that's just going to split the vote.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Up so political.

Speaker 8 (45:22):
Egotism maybe the thing that takes Down New York city
in the.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
End political egotism may be the thing that takes Down
New York city in the.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
End and he's exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
RIGHT i, mean It's hobson's choice because it's not Like
Aloy Eric adams has been good on immigration a couple of.
Issues it's not like he's a good choice Or Andrew
cuomo is a good. Choice both of them are a
heck of a lot better Than mumdamie And CURTIS leewa

(45:55):
perennial candidate doesn't have a chance to, win can get
enough votes to make an. Impact you have these three
egotists running in the. Race you need to get one
of them, out.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Toss. Out you Need cuomo Or adams to drop.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Out neither of them, will, though don't tell ME i
can't chances Of mandami winning and a communist taking over
as mayor Of New York, city someone so far left
he even Puts bill De blasio to shame from the leftist,
standpoint could end up being the mayor Of New York

(46:35):
city with all these, repercussions AND i think there's a
MUCH i think it's very likely.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
That he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Win it's is. Stunning I'm Jimmy sangenberger filling in For Ross.
Kaminski on the other, side we've lost a conservative, icon
someone who belongs up there With Ronald, Reagan WILLIAM. F,
Buckley Rush, Limbaugh Antonin scalia and somebody with a very
Close colorado connection that you might not know. About we'll

(47:03):
talk about the late great Doctor Edwin, foulner founder And
president of The Heritage, foundation who passed away over the.
Weekend on the other side right, Here jimmy and For
ross ON, Koa Jimmy, SANGENBERGER Dj jimmy in For Ross
kaminski today ON, koa lots to talk about if you
want to join into the. Festivities five six six nine

(47:25):
zero is the text line for THE Koa Common Spirit
health text, Line and, folks there are a couple of
THINGS i want to talk about here as we get
into a nice long segment to dive into a few,
Things AND i want to start for a moment with

(47:46):
some really sad news THAT i had seen. Yesterday it
broke On sunday and it was deeply a deep hit
to the conservative, movement the gut, punch and to those
of us personally who knew Doctor EDWIN. J, faulner the

(48:11):
co founder and president of longtime former president of The Heritage,
foundation who On friday passed away at the age of eighty.
Three my column tomorrow in The Denver gazette will recollect
on Doctor, foulner particularly BECAUSE i did know, him and

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HOW i got to know him is a STORY i
want to share as we remember his life and his.
Legacy because it was early in the summer of twenty
ten and Doctor faulkner was returning To Regis, university his alma,
mater for A board of trustees. Meeting he was on

(48:56):
the board Of, trustees was a life member of the
board For, regis and had attended there FROM i think
nineteen fifty nine to nineteen sixty. Three now this time
in twenty, TEN i was a, student AND i was
eagerly waiting for him at our agreed meeting spot after

(49:16):
a few months earlier when he'd emailed me because he'd
read a column That i'd written in The Regius highlander,
newspaper WHERE i was a. COLUMNIST i also Was prospective's
editor for a, SPELL i think for a one school,
year and THEN i was co editor and then editor

(49:38):
in chief for a. Semester and he'd read one of
my columns in the paper on The obamacare. Debate must
have been there for a regent or rather a trustee,
meeting and he praised the, piece but had a little
bit of a wink basically telling me next TIME i
should quote one of his scholars instead of someone from

(50:00):
the Libertarian Cato, Institute which is when it hit me
that this was the president and co founder of The Heritage,
foundation the most influential conservative think tank In, america emailing me.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Out of the.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Blue, now on the day of our meeting months, later
Doctor folhner walked into the room and he had this wide, smile,
said simply walking down the, Stairs so what evil are
you up to, Today. Jimmy, now this wasn't some random
statement he called to. Mind it was in fact a,

(50:35):
callback a very witty callback to another column THAT i had,
written WHERE i talked about HOW i was actually able
to express views as a. CONSERVATIVE i did a campus radio,
SHOW i was writing, columns so on and so. FORTH
i led The College republicans WHEN i was At, regis
And regis was a pretty welcoming, place at least at the.

(50:57):
Time not so much, anymore by, far not so much.
Anymore But regi's president at the, time Father Michael, sheeron
who's A jesuit. Justice Regis university is A Jesuit catholic,
institution had teasingly walked up to me and my. Family

(51:19):
we were there for a they were there for family weekend,
breakfast and he walked up to, me shook my hand
and said to, me, so what evil are you up to, Today.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Because The jesuits for the hippies of The Catholic. Church
and let's just say. That father sheeron AND i did
not SEE i to. Eye so When Ed volner met
me and first said that, remark it was instantly. Disarming,
Hey i'm here as a. Friend let's build a. Friendship

(51:54):
let's build a. Relationship so then, yesterday WHEN i learned
the news that Doctor folner had passed away On friday
at the age of eighty, THREE i really couldn't help
but reflect on this.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Moment, Remember, okay this, happened.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
And it was one of those moments meetings that was
very serendipitous and worked out really well in many. Respects
it was just impactful for me as a young college.
Student here was a pillar of the modern conservative movement
taking time to meet with a student At regis after

(52:33):
having taken time to email that. Student this is a
guy who helped shape conservatism through the decades as leader
At Heritage. Foundation HE i believe founded and guided as
leader of The House Republican Study committee behind The, scenes
which is a conservative body in The house that was

(52:54):
really influential in advancing the conservative ball before The reagan
adminished so many other roles, too and through it All
Ed folner champion the principles of. Conservatism we're talking about limited,
government free, enterprise individual, freedom strong national, defense the idea

(53:18):
of Traditional american, values Of Judeo christian.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Values the thing that was unique About.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Faulner in terms of his vision for The Heritage foundation
is that he keenly understood that in order for conservative
ideas to grow and to prosper and take on a
life of their, own they have to reach the public.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Square so what did he.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Do he helped found The Heritage, foundation took over within four,
years and made a point of training policy staff to
write and appear on camera and persuasively engage with the
media with. Policymakers it was something that wasn't really done

(54:02):
before for think tank. Organizations he explained in a pivotal
book laying out the direction of The Heritage foundation In
Ed folner's shepherding of. It leading The way the story
Of Ed fulner in The Heritage.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Foundation he explained.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Quote ideas do have, consequences but only if they become
part of the public policy.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Dialogue and his approach.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Worked heritage helped define the conservative agenda and quite, Frankly
Ed foulner's name belongs alongside influential conservative luminaries Like WILLIAM.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
F Buckley.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Jr Rush, Limbaugh, justice the Late Justice Anthony. Scully all
of these are folks who've passed. On And President Ronald,
reagan who famously took is mandate for, leadership Which Fohner
shepherd did in nineteen eighty to every cabinet member during

(55:08):
their first cabinet. Meeting he had brintant copies and gave
every one of them a copy of The mandate For
leadership and basically, said this is great and.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
We are going to use this as sort of our
public policy.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Model, revolutionary dramatically influential for The reagan. Administration and yet
through all, that Doctor Ed folner remained, humble remained open
and welcoming to anybody who engaged with. It was A washington,
heavyweight and he took time to mentor and support the

(55:40):
up and coming. Generations i'll give you an. Example several
months after our meeting in the summer of twenty twenty
or twenty, ten excuse, me as the mid terms were.
Afoot they invited me to attend an interview Former bush
forty three Advisor Carl role for my campus radio. Show

(56:02):
there was an, event a heritage event In, denver and
he reached out and, Said, Hey, jimmy this is. Happening
would you like to come and we can arrange an
interview With Carl row for. You not for Ed, fulner
was surely a small, gesture but for a young college

(56:25):
radio host at the time who had aspirations to be
on a station like.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
This OF, koa.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
It was a formative moment and in many respects it
felt LIKE i. Was it feels LIKE i was sort
of echoing some of his own. Journey this is where
we get to The colorado. Connection At. Regis Ed fulner
was From. Chicago he came from a Devout German catholic
family and he wanted to go to A jesuit school

(56:57):
that was quote small and, Away that's how he put.
It it was an a political high school grad and
he Chose Regi's college Over Loyola college In, chicago Both,
jesuit but he Chose regis, and as Biographer Lee edwards
wrote in his Book leading The way The, story That
fulner and The Heritage Foundation Regi's college would introduce him

(57:19):
to the world of ideas he did not know. Existed,
yes it Was Regi's college and his attendance at The
North Denver university Now university that introduced Ed foulner to
conservative ideas that later would help to shape policy of

(57:40):
The reagan, administration The bush administration The trump. ADMINISTRATION a
history professor Handed Fulner liberty Or, equality a book By
catholic writer and self described classical Liberal Eric vaughan kill Nelt.
Leeden his eyes were. Open quote he said this in

(58:02):
nineteen eighty, Four you're either going to be in favor
of liberty or you're going to be in favor of.
Equality AND i realized that age eighteen THAT i favored.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Liberty what a profound.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Moment he Discovered Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mine Frederick Hayeks
The road to served, him and then Came The conscience
of A, conservative published in nineteen sixty By Senator Barry.
GOLDWATER i love this part of the story because not
only was that, influential but guess what that exact book

(58:37):
connected me and Doctor folner across. Time as a, STUDENT
i happened upon a battered copy of The conscience of
A conservative from The Regius, library and inside the checkout
card there there was a. Name NOW i can't find the.
BOOK i was able to keep, it and SO i

(59:00):
don't remember what he put it, down as it's, Somewhere
i'll find.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
It it might have BEEN.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Ej. Folner that's what he had put down when he
submitted an op ed for a letter to the editor
and The Denver post in around nineteen sixty one or
nineteen sixty two when he was twenty years, old or
was Ed, Faulner i'm not, certain but either, way he'd
signed that book in nineteen sixty one and his, name

(59:29):
AS i, recall was the only, one or maybe there
was one other to.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Check out the.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Book AND i happened upon this and it was a
moment Of, wow what a what a, connection a symbol
of like the intellectual roots of the modern conservative. Movement
it left that lasting. Impression it really showed that there's
something rare about the spirit of conservatism on college campuses

(59:55):
that in many respects is disappointing but also binds people
together in common, cause all the more because you're not
the ones that are purveying an ideology or philosophy or
perspective that's in vogue on. Campuses so brazy. Together, now

(01:00:17):
this is. Remarkable Ed folner At Regis. UNIVERSITY i don't
think there's anybody who did more at a college campus Than.
Faulner he was in the class of nineteen sixty. Three threw,
himself just threw himself into campus. Life he was vice
president of The Alpha Kappa psi business, fraternity, which with

(01:00:38):
him as one of the leaders in nineteen sixty, two
became named as the best chapter in the. Nation he
led The Literary, club helped run The Ranger, yearbook Established
Regis's American society chapter of The Conservative Intercollegious society Of Individuals,

(01:01:00):
lusts served in student, government was twice Named Regius man
of The year in sixty two and sixty, three and
all the while this guy worked in the, mailroom as
a union stage hand At Denver Civic, theater and a
proofreader At Jocelyn's department. Store imagine these connections for a
guy who would go on to take the roles That

(01:01:23):
Ed folner. Did he was a news editor and columnist
for what at the time was Called The brown And Gold,
review the student, newspaper and that's where he really, is
he might, say cut his teeth in rhetorical persuasion on
big picture issues around the. Globe and a nineteen sixty,

(01:01:43):
one in a formative, moment he went To Western. Europe
WHAT i think it, WAS i was reviewing book last.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Night sixteen students and a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Professor they went on a tour Of Western europe and
it was his birthday and he was excited to go To,
berlin but they couldn't because The soviets had just started
building The Berlin. Wall.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Remarkable now think about it this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Way here you have a student attending A jesuit university
and again they're the hippies of The Catholic.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Church Pope francis is a prime. Example he was A.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Jesuit they're not known for conservative. Orthodoxy and yet what.
Happened he graduated From, regis became a conservative At, regis
and because of his professors and readings At, regis and
went on to launch one of the most consequential.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Conservative.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Organizations in, Fact regis launched him one of the most
consequential conservatives of the past. Century, now they didn't necessarily
intend to nurture a mind Like Ed fohner's who would
go on to help shape modern.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Conservatism but they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Did AND i, think AND i write this in tomorrow's,
column that it proves that the right, ideas once, sparked
will catch. Fire this is a man whose legacy lives
on his work. Continues he always would sign off his
emails onward and, upward which was that epitomize the optimism

(01:03:29):
that Doctor folner consistently. Felt in, fact he wrote in
the Book leadership For america where he.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Edited this, book.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
And it was a collection of writings from different conservative,
leaders he, noted my fellow, optimists AND i find much
to sustain. Optimism, granted there are many obstacles yet to be,
overcome in many deep social pathologies In america yet to be.
Healed even, so the bulk of, social, political and cultural

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indicators point not to a nation in, ruins but to
a nation restoring itself and gravitating toward the core principles
that conservatives of every stripe hold in. Common this was
a self described optimist who was always characteristically, optimistic who

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touched many, lives who was interested in other people who,
DEMONSTRATED i think the values of conservatism as much as
he would espouse the philosophy of. It and we certainly
lost a legend, again someone who belongs up there With WILLIAM. F,
buckley With Ronald, Reagan Hanton Inscaliah Rush limboss from these seminal.

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Conservatives you may not like them, all you may love them, all.

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But the impact that they had was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Substantial and that's definitely a legacy left behind By edward
who people don't know this About Regis university and the
connection that he had to this institution and that just
had but how formative it really. Was and as someone

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with ties to this, university having graduated From regis myself
in twenty, ELEVEN i think it just adds something even
more to the story of Ed. Vulner AND i think
that it is for anyone who is a. CONSERVATIVE i
don't know if YOU'RE maga conservative or a traditional, conservative physcal,

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conservative whatever it. Is if you call yourself a, conservative
then it is important incumbent.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Upon us to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Do our part to keep that legacy going and to
be persuasive.

Speaker 8 (01:06:03):
And.

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Persistent Doctor Edwin folner dead at the age of eighty, Three.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
May he rest in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Peace I'm Jimmy sangenberger filling in For Ross. Kiminski the
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board Of trustees because he was a student. There he
graduated From regis in the year nineteen sixty, three that
was his, class the class of sixty, three and did
a lot there and that's where he became a, conservative
where he was introduced to great thinkers and. MORE a
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From regis and have always felt it was my hometown.
COLLEGE i didn't go To, regis BUT i did attend
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thousand and eight through twenty. Ten those left an indelible
impact on, me hearing from The World War two veterans
and meeting them sorry for the loss Of. EDWIN i

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took that class my final semester At Regis stories From
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Was but it was.

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Amazing we heard from veterans from all the wars From
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powerful lessons that we learned and could take, Away american

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heroes who fought In, iwajima The battle of The, bulge
and we had to do a couple of papers as
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and also wrote a paper On World WAR ii related
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ended at least. Anyway that was remarkable and listening to
all of the. VETERANS i, mean if you are a veteran,
listening thank you for your, service whether you saw combat or,
not no matter what you, did thank you for your.
Service if anything has taught me about the importance of,
service the importance of the sacrifices that are men and

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women in the military have done and made for this
country and their, family is that study of. Wartime class absolutely,
did AND i know that's no longer taught, there but
it was an amazing experience for those of, us including
the general, public who were able to sit, in as
the texture, said who got to listen and enjoy an

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experience everything that this class had to. Offer another text
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New York city only has two, classes rich and.

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Poor the poor out number the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Rich let's, vote so everyone is poor and only the
government is. Rich that's sort of like what the mentality.
IS i think you do capture, that at least the
left winging outcome in particular the government is, rich, yes

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and keep enriching the. Government, Hey, jimmy are you going
to cover any Of colorado's districts that need to.

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Be flipped or can be, flipped or The COLORADO.

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Gop it's INFORMATION i, need so if you are still tuning,
IN i don't think The republicans have any chance at
flipping any congressional. Districts holding the Eighth congressional district With
Gabe evans is going to be. Essential holding the Third
congressional district With Jeff hurd going to be, essential but
not as much as an uphill climb or a challenge

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as the Eighth congressional district. Is but, Nevertheless republicans have four.
Seats it'll be about holding those, seats not. Gaining The
democrats have too much of an advantage in the other
four congressional seats to pick them.

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Up my view sad but. True i'd love to see.

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The congressional service of A Jason crow come to an,
end BUT i don't think that's gonna happen anytime. Soon
now it does feel like there's something going on In.

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COLORADO i was talking with one of the candidates for
governor over the weekend WHEN i spoke at The Summit
County Republican Parties Lincoln day roundup. Dinner absolutely. BEAUTIFUL i
talked about a little bit earlier at the start of the.
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Setup they did a phenomenal.

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Job.

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Really i've been to a lot of These Lincoln day
dinners and they exceeded just about Any i've ever been.
To AND i had the opportunity TO i hadn't really
talked with him, before but to talk With Scott, bottoms
one of The republicans running for, governor and he was
talking to me about some optimism that they'd seen in
the data about the state legislature and the ability For

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republicans to pick up some legislative seats and a good.
Number AND i think that that is Something i'm hearing
more and more of from other, sources is That democrats
are concerned about what's happening In, colorado which is. Refreshing
for a, while it didn't seem like, that especially Because
trump is so unpopular in this state amongst independents and

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Some republicans even that are not activists but are Everyday,
republicans but especially among unaffiliateds and Obviously. Democrats and yet
are they able to sort of segment That i'm like
before where a lot of it was protest votes Against.
Trump are they able to sort of segment that set

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it aside and, Say i'm voting on the kitchen table
issues that are impacting me day to day and what
The democrats have done at The Colorado State legislature is
disastrous and is hurting me and my. Family and, YES
i THINK i think that there are many who will
compartmentalize in a way we've seen in the, past and
that you do see there are some tremendous opportunities For

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republicans now that are certainly encouraging for those who would
like at least some balance in the. LEGISLATURE i don't
think the governorship will go to A. Republican any of
the state wide offices will be a real uphill. Climb

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and on secretary Of, STATE i think you need somebody
who's grounded in reality and not going to be all
obsessed over stolen, election rigged election, narratives because that's just
going to sink. Them you need people who understand there's
somebody for secretary Of state who really understands and has
the experience in the office and understands the real issues

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and isn't going to go down the rabbit, hole because
if they go down the rabbit. Hole they're going to
lose big, time but, otherwise chance to win against The
secretary Of state Nominee Attorney general is going to be,
really really tough Against Jenna. Griswold she's got a, massive
massive war chest eight hundred thousand dollars already nearly a
million dollars in the first reporting period. Alone and it's

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particularly Because republicans.

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Give her everything they.

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Need she.

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Needs she thrives on the. Attack she's a folk here
on the. Left she goes IN msnbccn and raises tons
of money because of crazy kookie election conspiracy theories the
keeping thrown her way instead of the many legitimate criticisms
that will land with.

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People, well we got to run to a BREAK.

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A rod's given me the sign we'll be back on
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LOOK i am a big time free trade. GUY i
voted For trump in twenty, sixteen twenty, twenty twenty twenty,
four AND i vehemently have opposed his trade policies from

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before he was elected, president before he was The republican.
Nominee because free trade is. Right free trade is proven
time and time again throughout. History we know this to
be the. Case the great Late Milton friedman was one
of the great purveyors of free trade because he understood

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that government getting in the, mix whether that is through
regular taxation of your own people directly through high income,
taxes or it's through, regulations or it's through, tariffs that impedes,
productivity that impedes the free, market that impedes the ability
for individuals to make choices for themselves because it adds

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to the cost of. Things, Well Howard lutnik is The
secretary of, commerce and he was On oh, GOSH i
think it Was Fox news over the weekend and was
asked a Few, no it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Was Not Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
News it WAS Cbs faced The nation, yesterday that's, Right
and he was asked about whether or not he'd want
to renegotiate THE Us Mexico canada agreement that was negotiated
By President. Trump, OH i think.

Speaker 10 (01:17:56):
The president is absolutely going to renegotiate. Ussently that's a year.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
From, today exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:18:01):
Today of, course seventy five percent comes in. Free but
of course would you expect us to renegotiate. It it
makes perfect sense for The president's. Renegotiated he wants to
Protect american. Jobs he doesn't want cars built In canada
Or mexico when they could be built In, Michigan ohio And.
Ohio it's just better For american. Workers The president's got

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The american workers. Back that's why they elected. Him that's
why the stock markets at all time. Highs they understand
the president actually understands business and it's doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Right how is he going to guarantee that cars are
not made, elsewhere that we just have cars made. Here
it's just it doesn't doesn't make. Sense that's not how things.
Work and in a lot of cases with, terris for,
example on dairy, products there's a lot of, talk oh my,
gosh they got two hundred percent terraffs on dairy. Products,

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well The canadians import very, little relatively, speaking dairy product
from The United states that we don't meet the threshold
required for the two hundred percent tariffs to kick. In
yet they'll still point to two hundred percent tariffs and,
say oh my, gosh, look how a ei they're dearriffing,
Us but we never reach that threshold that quota required

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for it to even.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Happen very.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Deceptive then there are ten percent tariffs as a floor
on most countries in the, world And leutnik was asked about.

Speaker 11 (01:19:24):
That i'm all, countries you, know The Latin american, countries
The caribbean, countries many countries In. Africa they will have
a baseline tariff of ten, percent and then the bigger
economies will either open themselves up or they'll pay a
fair tariff To america for not opening themselves up and
Treating america. Unfairly so what The president's view, is and

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what she's instructed me to, do is, say, look if
you're willing to open yourself up and really open your
economy To american, business to ran trans, fishermen, farmers and,
businesses then.

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
Of course we'll make a better deal with.

Speaker 10 (01:19:59):
You but if you go going to keep your tariffs
and your tariff barriers holding us, down then of course
it seems fair that you should pay a tariff to
do business with the greatest customer on, Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
America wait a, Second wait a. Second if that's the,
case then it's all about reducing trade. Barriers then why
are we slapping fifty percent tariffs On brazil when we
have a trade surplus with. Them they import more from
The United states than we import From. Brazil But President
trump is, saying, well you're going After, bolscenaro the former,

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president so we're going to tear if you have fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Percent if you keep doing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
That if this is the, case then why are you
lumping in so many other objectives talking about oh my,
gosh look at all the money that we're raising from.
Tariffs oh my. Gosh we want to bring Back american,
manufacturing and we're going to raise tariffs specifically to do.
That but then you say you want to reduce trade,

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Barriers but then when asked By Senator John kennedy about
make deals and if you would get rid of all
trade barriers with a country Like, vietnam the answer From
Howard lutnick is, no it's they're all over the, map
and it doesn't work that way for businesses to plan
five ten years. Out you got to rain this thing.

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In and unfortunately we have folks Like Howard lutnik that
seem not to be trying to Advise President trump to
do the right thing and reach some deals more quickly
or to eliminate these tariffs just to get rid of.
Them stop doing, it don't play the. Game that's my vote.
Anyway what's? Yours five six six nine. Zero THE Koa

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Common Spirit health text. Line I'm Jimmy sangenberger in For Ross.
Kaminski one more nice long segment up ahead on the
other side ON koa AS i fill in For Ross.
Kaminski right here ON koa in For Mandy connell On
thursday from noon to three as, well AND i Will

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i'm looking forward to. THIS a good friend of, Mine Priscilla,
ron is a fantastic, teacher a master. Teacher there's literally
a designation for that that you earn this. Status very
few master teachers In, colorado AS i understand, it and
she's one of.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Them she has a new book that just came.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Out it's On amazon Called Restoring education In america And
Inspirational Teacher. Toolbox this is someone who's been in education
for over thirty years and has a lot to, say
a lot of great. Insights And i'm looking forward to
chatting With priscilla On thursday When i'm in For mandy
So Tulci gabbert over the. Weekend she is The director

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Of National intelligence and she made a big splash on
something that supposedly was revolutionary.

Speaker 12 (01:22:50):
News the intelligence community, assessed, Essentially russia doesn't have the,
tools the, capability or the intent to try to change
the outcome of THE us presidential. Election Donald trump pulls
off a historic victory Against Hillary clinton In november of twenty.
Sixteen even in the days after that, election the intelligence

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community continued their consistent assessment that reflected the same thing
in the months leading up to the.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Election all of a, Sudden.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
All of a, sudden what.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Happened there was a presidential Daily brief that was supposed
to go To President obama the day that it, was
it was, pulled he never got, it and instead things
were essentially. Redirected according To.

Speaker 12 (01:23:36):
Gabbert one day, Later President obama calls a meeting of
His National Security, council his top officials to be held
on what they called a sensitive, topic and the results
of that, meeting which we released yesterday in these over
one hundred documents that talk about in detail How President
obama and his team he directed a manufactured piece of

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intelligence that detailed not, if but How russia tried to
influence the outcome of The United states election That President
trump won In november of twenty. Sixteen this document was
then used as the foundation.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
For everything that came.

Speaker 12 (01:24:19):
Next it was essentially a year's long coup that was
launched Against President trump before he even had the opportunity
to take his oath of office and be sworn in
as president The United.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
States so as sounds really, INTERESTING i want to play
a little bit more BECAUSE i do think that there's
more to this story than she is. Presenting and part
of it is that this is actually we're not really
getting much. New we really knew these things. Already and

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Also i'm curious as to why this is some supposed
revelation years, after When President trump was all already in
office for four years following the twenty sixteen, election she
escalated some of the rhetoric with her bottom, line.

Speaker 12 (01:25:08):
But foundational to it all was the fact that we
had In President obama and his leadership team people.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
Who did not want to accept the.

Speaker 12 (01:25:19):
Will of The american people in Electing Donald trump in
twenty sixteen and therefore cooked up this treason is conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
To again try to, effectively and they did.

Speaker 12 (01:25:30):
Effectively launch a year's long coup against the sitting president
of The United.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
States it was a coup against the sitting. President and
escalating that rhetoric to a treasonoist, conspiracy treason IS i don't,
know unless he really moves forward with something, big unless
The department Of justice prosecutes this and does it as.
TREASON i don't think The director Of National intelligence used

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that should use that kind of, rhetoric because treason implies
the death. Penalty that is the one sedition, treason that's
the one crime that you can be put to death
for that is established in THE Us. Constitution and she
was asked about criminal, Referral.

Speaker 10 (01:26:16):
Are you referring this in a criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Matter we are.

Speaker 12 (01:26:21):
Referring all of the documents that we have uncovered to
The department Of justice and THE fbi as for a criminal.
Referral so do you, expect just to be, clear do
you expect indictments and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
Prosecutions i'm not a.

Speaker 12 (01:26:38):
Lawyer in my, view we have the evidence to be
able to move forward and bring about. Justice, yes to
prosecute and indict those.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Responsible but will They Jim hymes is A. Democrat he's
the ranking member on The House Intelligence, committee and he
doesn't think that's going to, happen and in fact made.
It compare to the way The trump administration is handling
One Jeffrey.

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
Epstein this Is epstein all over. Again criminal. Referrals we're
going to Prosecute Barack. Obama you, know treason is and.
Seditious here's the, thing AND i hope that four or
five six weeks from. Now don't take it from This.
Democrat four or five six weeks from. Now let's see
if this Administration Tulsey gobbert accusing a former president of.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Treason let's see if they bring. Charges they.

Speaker 9 (01:27:25):
Won't they won't because there's not a judge in the,
land not a single judge who will treat this with
anything other than laughter that will be heard from The
atlantic to The pacific in this. Country so the test
of this is four or, five six weeks from, now
is THE doj bringing? Charges and the answer to that is.
No and now we're going to be In epstein. World we're,
like wait a, minute treason is conspiracy by a former.

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President why isn't The department.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Of justice bringing?

Speaker 9 (01:27:50):
Charges and the answer to that question is that it
is a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
LIE i have to be. HONEST i think he's got
a point. There don't think we will see The department
Of justice prosecute the Senior obama administration, officials certainly Not President.
Obama or if they, do it ain't going to be about.
Treason it's going to be some sort of lesser. Offense

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and that, is if it even. Happens kind of feel
like this might be a bass. Play that, is we
know That Maga land is very upset with us Over Jeffrey,
Epstein so let's go back to twenty sixteen in The
russia hoax and drudge that up. Again Jim himes also

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Blasted Tulsi gabbert's claims regarding a potential.

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
Prosecution is there any legal basis for any kind of prosecution.

Speaker 9 (01:28:45):
Here, uh, none absolutely, None, Margaret what you saw from
The director Of National Intelligence Tulsea gabbard was not just a,
lie but a very dangerous, lie because when you start
throwing around language like sedition and, treason somebody's going to get.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Hurt, now you pointed out that The senate.

Speaker 9 (01:29:05):
Committee then led By Marco, rubio A republican and Now
secretary Of, state found unanimously That russia meddled in the
election to try to Assist Donald. Trump John durham special
council appointed By Donald trump investigated this found that The
senate report was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Correct there is a distinction when it comes To. Russia
there is a distinction between hacking the election and doing
some influence. Online there was definitely there were definitely attempts
By russia online that were first to Hamper Hillary clinton

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because there was an expectation that she would be elected
and So russia wanted to weaken her taking. Office, well
then it seemed like there was a good chance That
trump could actually, win so it spun a little more
towards let's use social. Media the problem For democrats is
that they, vastly vastly overstate the impact Of, Russia, Russia russia.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
On the twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Elections it's not like social media and what they did
in terms of posts and bots and so, forth could
have had an outsized. Impact no. Way twitter didn't have
nearly enough people for. That and over On facebook there's
a big mixed bag as to who's paying attention to

(01:30:32):
anything political versus who's there for cat pictures and family
stories and what have.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
You so the left vastly.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Overstated but it was the case THAT i think was
in was it In ohio Or?

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Illinois?

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
ILLINOIS i think it was that they did. Hack russians
did hack the voter registration, system didn't do anything to,
it but did hack. It but in terms of actual,
Things malfeason's impacting directly the, election that isn't something that
was ever. Substantiated and that is one of the things

(01:31:07):
That tulsi's sort of trotting, out, is, well they this didn't,
Happen they didn't hack the. Election she's right about, That
but what's new. Here i'm not following it too much
as to what the big revelations really. Are Here's Jim
himes a little bit more Refuting Tulsi.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Gabbert she is.

Speaker 9 (01:31:27):
Saying that The Intelligence committee early on said that The
russians could not use cyber tools to mess with the voting,
infrastructure the machines that tally our.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Votes and that was true then and it is true.

Speaker 9 (01:31:41):
Now though The russians tried to break into a couple of,
states you, know election technical, infrastructure.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
They didn't do, it but it is well known and well.

Speaker 9 (01:31:51):
Established The russians packed into THE dnc and undertook any
number of other influence, operations including buying reams Of facebook
ads to Discredit Hillary.

Speaker 4 (01:32:01):
Clinton that is not in. Contention that he's not in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Contention, also or should not, be is that the claims
That russia's social media, malfisan some of the activities that
they engaged in really had a massive impact in the.
Election the idea That President trump wasn't legitimate after twenty
sixteen when he took office In january twenty at twenty,
seventeen was perpetuated by a heck of a lot Of,

(01:32:25):
democrats and it was. Absurd there was no basis in
reality for. THAT i guess the new piece here is
sort of That obama was directly involved in deciding how
they were going to present The russia. Stuff but to
the extent that's true or that's, REVELATORY i think we

(01:32:46):
really we knew most of. It it was pretty, obvious
pretty obvious that That obama had to have been involved
in some of those. Determinations, Now Tulsea gabberd did talk
a little bit about why there was nothing done.

Speaker 12 (01:33:07):
Before i've been in this role As director Of National
intelligence for just about six. MONTHS i don't know what
excuse there is for those who supposedly investigated this, previously
whether it Was durham or, others that they were not
able to put together the dots and ultimately show the
truth to The american.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
People Marco rubio's, committee What John radcliffe wasn't he the
director Of National intelligence In Toulcy gabbert's position back during
the First trump, administration like why why is it The Tulci,
gabbard after four months in offices uncovering something that The
republican officials from the First trump term didn't? Present is

(01:33:50):
she contextualizing everything? Properly what's going? ON i don't think
there's anything really new, here AND i don't think there's
anything treason certainly throwing that word out there is a bad.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Idea very risky.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
IDEA i don't want presidents and directors of national intelligence
saying former presidents or other political officials or treason is
that is inappropriate rhetoric and that there is nothing here
to substantiate that. Level we Knew russia tried to manipulate
or influence the election in some, ways predominantly of social.

(01:34:30):
Media they did hack voter registration system in one STATE
i think there Was, illinois but didn't do anything with.
It they did hack THE, dnc and they did The
facebook ads and what have. You but guess, What china
is doing the same. Thing The United states is doing

(01:34:51):
the same thing in other. Countries like that's just basic
stuff that needs to be protected and. Address sure it's not,
small but it's not like it's some huge impact on the.
Election and, Fundamentally tolsy's just reiterating it seems to me
things we already.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Knew AND i would call it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Spin someone texted the ka common spirit of text nine
five six six nine, zero what would you call? It?

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Then i'd call it spin.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Because they were presenting things that were true and things
that were exaggerated and some falsity is mixed. In but
that's the nature of an. Administration and Maybe i'm cynical
there and just sort of expect that from any administration
that they're gonna spin things like.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
THIS i don't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
KNOW i just something is off about the timing of
this and the way in Which gabbart is going about.
It Maybe i'm, wrong Maybe i'm smelling something there that doesn't.
Exist but to think that this is some, REVELATION i
just don't see. It real. Quick we just got a

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few minutes left Before mandy takes. Over The. Senator John
ossoff Of georgia gave a speech the other, DAY i
think over the weekend where he did a few things
in talking ABOUT i understand why people voted For Donald.

Speaker 13 (01:36:29):
Trump even before he came on the, Scene america had
the most corrupt political system in The western. World it's
been running on corporate, money secret, money billionaire money both, sides.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
And it's worse than ever.

Speaker 13 (01:36:48):
Now Citizens united was the worst court decision in Modern american.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
History.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Blaming Citizens. United Citizens united was the case that affirmed
that money is, speech which it. Is if you have,
money if you earn money and you spend, it that
is your. Property that is Speech Citizens united was rightly.
Decided even more, WELL i don't want to get ahead of.

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Myself John asoff continues blaming corruption for so many.

Speaker 13 (01:37:22):
Problems senators get threatened every day with millions and millions
of dollars of attack ads over the votes that we
take and. See this is why nothing works for ordinary.
People it's not because of woke college kids or trans,
students or because there are interracial couples and serial. Commercials

(01:37:43):
it's because the people's elected representatives don't represent the. People
they represent the. Donors and that corruption is why they
just defunded nursing homes to cut taxes for the. Rich
corruption is why you pay a fortune for. Prescriptions corruption

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is why your insurance claim keeps getting. Denied corruption is
why hedge funds get to buy up all the houses
in your, neighborhood driving you out of the, market and
then your corporate landlord ignores your calls during a gas.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Leak is it me or is he channeling the tonal
inflection Of Barack? OBAMA i really feel like he's just
he sounds a lot Like obama in his tone of.
Voice but here's the thing That asoff ignores or gets.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Wrong the only.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Reason that you can have this much money in politics
and you can have, corruption or you can have shady,
deals what have.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
You to this extent that we might agree.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
Is because there's too much politics and. Money that is to,
say government has grown so. Big, god it's grubby, tentacles
grubby hands on so many different industries and things, that
of course business is no choice but to hire lobbyists
and try to manipulate the system as best they. Can
but also government has grown so much and screwed things
up so badly because of this sense that it is

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all knowing and all powerful and therefore.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Should be all helpful to. People that actually is the root.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Of so many of the problems that we.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
See but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Nice to, say oh my, gosh it's corruption and too
much money in, politics and it's The Supreme court and Citizens.
United it's nice and easy for him to, say but
it ain't actually the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Truth it is not the.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Reality and when he says as well That trump is
re rigging the, system, nonsense certainly in comparison to anything
The democrats are. DOING i, mean politics is, politics and
it is too involved in the private, sector and that
is what brings. About that's the crux of the crises
that we see in the problems across the, board blame.

(01:39:57):
Government too much money in politics, again too much politics and.
Money that is it for me today. Again i'll be
filling in For mandy This thursday from twelve to three
sheets up next right here on KO. A thanks so
much for joining, Me thanks To ross for having me
in today and A rod doing a great job behind the.

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Glass as always and AS i like to, close Make
god Bless.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
America