07-30-25 - *FULL SHOW* CU Quarterback Mentor; Hockey & Sex in Canada; Parking Scam

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
When you tell them not to do something, or that you.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Were somewhat displeased or annoyed by their action, you only
make it more likely that they're going to go do
it again. Most of us were like that at some
point in their lives. Producer Shannon is still.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Like that now.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I was going to say it even before you
pointed at yourself. Shannon, I knew it. I know you
that well, and so I thought of that when I
saw this news story that I literally opened thirty seconds ago,
twenty nine seconds ago to use a prime number. And
this is from USA Today. South Park isn't done mocking Trump.
Trailer for next episode Skewer's President Again. You will recall

(00:36):
I said a few days ago that the White House
made a mistake by responding to South Park by saying
they weren't funny.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That was a bad move. Here's what USA Today says.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
The Comedy Central show has dropped a trailer for its
next episode, which suggests the series will continue mocking Trump
after making ways for going after a minute's even season
twenty seven premiere. The twenty second trailer includes a shot
of Trump attending a dinner where he's sitting at a
table with Satan as a speaker is heard talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Honoring Trump's courage.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
The President rubs Satan's leg under the table and Satan
tells him to stop. It's unclear whether the scene will
appear in the next episode, airing August sixth, or whether
it was created solely for the trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
South Park is notorious for.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Not having episodes finished until soon before the air and
during a comic Con panel last week, creators Trey Parker
and Matt Stone, who by the way, owned Casabanina, now
acknowledged they created scenes just to use in a trailer
for this current season. But the trailer at least implies
that Trump and his relationship with Satan will be a

(01:45):
continuing storyline throughout the season rather than a one off plot.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So there you go. Do not go after.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
The most iconoclastic I don't give a bleep television show
writers that the world has ever seen by calling them
not funny and expect them.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Not to retaliate.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Okay, speaking of retaliate, this is another story I just
saw this morning, and I'm just gonna share it with
you briefly. I'm not gonna elaborate a lot because these
stories all change so fast. But from the BBC, Trump
to hit India with twenty five percent tariffs plus penalty
for trading with Russia.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
And so President Trump announced in the past.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
That he'd have all these, you know, various terrorists tariff
rates with various countries depending on some nonsense sort of formula.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
That they used AI to create.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
And he is making individual deals with particular countries to
change those rates.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right if the if countries reach a.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Deal with him and give him what he wants, and
so I want to help, I'll impose a lower rate.
By the way, there will be starting tomorrow oral arguments
at the relevant federal court about whether these terror that
Trump is imposing are legal. And I would just note
not all of Trump's tariffs are being imposed under the

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same authority. Some of them are being done under one
section of laws, some of them under another section.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
There I think they're actually three different areas of law.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Most of them are being done under something called an
Emergency Economic Powers Act, and I believe that those ones
are illegal. I don't think that law gives the president
the power to do what he's doing.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But this is what a court is going I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
To be the one making that decision, right, this is
what a court is going to hear about starting starting tomorrow.
And I do think before I get back to the
India thing for a second, I do think that some
countries that are making deals with Trump right now are
at least sort of handshake deals on frameworks like the
thing that we just heard with the EU, right. I mean,

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it was trumpeted as a trade deal, but it's not
really a trade deal. It's an agree meant to make
a trade deal with some frameworks of some key things
that Trump wants, but most of the details aren't there.
And I think that a lot of these countries they're
going to do stuff like that, and they're just going
to delay as much as they can and hope that

(04:15):
a US court rules that most Trump tariffs are illegal.
So we'll see how that goes. But India is a
really interesting situation. Okay, so a couple of things to
say about it. It's an enormous country, but it's a
poor country. And a thing to keep in mind, you know,
Donald Trump has a has a sort of fetish about

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trade deficits, where he thinks they are bad things. A
trade deficit is not necessarily a bad thing. The other
side of a trade deficit is a capital surplus, which
means that you know, the foreigners are buying you know,
other things in the US, buying bonds or buying stocks,
or buying companies or opening a factory or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I'll give you.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'll give you a quick example. Right, if we if
we buy a billion dollars of stuff from Toyota and
then Toyota spends a billion dollars building a factory in
the United States of America, the trade deficit is a
billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
The capitol account surplus, though, is also a billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
So really the net is zero.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
It's just you know, what one group is buying versus
what another group is buying. But in any case India,
when you think about poor countries in general, and you
think about what we manufacture versus what they manufacture.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
So say the.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
United States tends to manufacture a lot of high end,
expensive stuff, and let's say India, banglad well in India
is changing, but you know, typically would would make lower
value stuff. You know, let's say T shirts, right, a
big thing in Bangladesh, for example, So if we're buying
a ton of stuff from Bangladesh, who in Bangladesh needs

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to buy an American supercomputer? Who in America? Who in
Bangladesh needs to buy a Tesla? They really don't need
our stuff because they're too poor. And it's actually not
reasonable to expect there to be anything other than an
American trade deficit with a country like that. And that's
absolutely fine, there's nothing wrong with it. Remember, you have

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an essentially infinite in percentage terms, trade deficit with your
supermarket because they're not buying anything from you. But there's
nothing wrong with that. Now, India is an incredibly strategic place.
It's right there next to China, It's next to Pakistan,
which is then next to Afghanistan.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You've got all these long rivalries.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Obviously, India is a huge coastline along the wait for it,
Indian Ocean right and India is a really important, although
somewhat challenging ally, and a lot of people have been thinking,
and I've been thinking that the Trump administration would be
reticent to impose tariffs on such a strategically important country.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Now, it is also true that India.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Has really high tariffs on American stuff, But as I said,
I just don't know how much American stuff India would
buy even if there were no tariffs, with the possible
exception of agricultural products. So anyway, and I do think
that'll be a main area of the conversation. But I
just saw it this morning and I just wanted to
share it with you. I'm not going to say more
because I don't know how it'll play out over time. Right,

(07:28):
One quick sports thing I wanted to share with you.
You probably if you're an NFL fan, you've heard of
Byron Leftwich, who was a quarterback in the NFL for
a decade. He was starting quarterback for a while. He
was a backup quarterback with the Pittsburgh Steelers and won
a Super Bowl ring with them in Super Bowl what
was at forty three, And he was an offensive coordinator

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with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when they won their Super
Bowl fifty five, working with Tom Brady. In any case,
and he was an unbelievable college quarterback at Marshall. Byron
Leftwich has been announced at a CU team meeting in
front of the players without a very formal title, but
essentially as a quarterback mentor.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
And boy, that's not bad. That's not bad.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
You get a ten year NFL quarterback who won a
Super Bowl as a quarterback and then won a another
Super Bowl as an offensive coordinator. And one thing you
got to say about coach Prime is that a lot
of serious and talented people want to work with him.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
And this guy is.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Able to bring talent to see you that probably very
very few other people would be able to bring.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I saw this headline.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I should probably save this story for when Dragon is here,
because producer, Because Chad Bauer made a really good joke
when I was standing out in the newsroom there and
Dragon happened to be near him. Dragon unusually wearing a
colored shirt today and in the now Shanna has a
surprise look on his face, and I guess they were

(09:03):
talking about this story that I'm going to share with
you now about the Dragon vote dragon Boat Festival, and
Chad said to Dragon, well, any watercraft you would have
would be at dragon Boat.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think that's excellent. Here's the headline, Sloan's Lake water.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Crisis may force Dragon Boat Festival to leave Denver. Now,
we've talked about some of the water issues at Sloans
Lake from time to time here on the show, and
it doesn't seem very good, and so here's what the
Denver Post says. The Colorado dragon Boat Festival festival may
soon need a new home due to a host of
environmental issues at Sloans Lake Park, where it takes place

(09:38):
every year.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's in Denver for those who don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
A potential move wouldhurt attendance, organizers said at what they
call both the largest dragon boat event in the country
and the largest Asian, American and Pacific islander event in
the Rocky Mountain region, the.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Nonprofit festival draws one hundred and.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Fifty thousand to two hundred thousand people each July with
its colorful races and culture offering. So then they you know,
have some people saying how bad it would be if
it moved.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Now skip ahead a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Concerns include dead fish, increasingly warm and shallow water, blue
algae blooms, and a lack of filtration from untreated runoff
pouring into the one hundred and seventy seven acre lake.
In addition to the dragon Boat Festival, the city is
nixed to other permits for events at Sloan's Lake until
early fall, said a Parks Department spokesperson. Even with a

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multimillion dollar cleanup project looming, the chances of using Sloan's
Lake for future dragon boat events looks dim. The cleanup
planning currently includes a five million dollar funding request in
the latest version of the proposed nine hundred and fifty
million dollar Vibrant Denver Bond, down from an initial ask

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of forty million dollars. So anyway, okay, one more. The
lake needs to be drained and dredged. It sounds like
a lot of work to increase depth and water quality,
as well as adding filtration to the water that flows
into the lake from various cities and districts ranging from
Lakewood and wheat Ridge to unincorporated jeff Goo, all of

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which need to approve the project due to their individual
rights to the.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Water, said Kurt Weaver.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Executive director of the Sloan's Lake Park Foundation. Well, that
sounds like something that will happen real quickly, right, Getting
a whole bunch of local governments to agree on something,
not just something, but something involving water.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, I'm sure they will sort that out real fast,
all right.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Sticking with other Colorado stuff, you recall, and thanks very
much to those of you who helped me when I
asked you to make sure that Governor Polus's question to voters,
his pole question online about whether to go ahead with
that big bridge slash overpass thing. Polus that he hoped
the vote wouldn't be close, and I asked you to

(11:54):
help him make sure that he didn't have that problem.
And it came in like ninety four percent against that bridge.
Thank you very much for that. Now, part of the
other stuff that he was asking about was all right,
if we don't do the bridge, what should we do?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And YadA, YadA YadA.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So Axios has this Colorado overwhelmingly rejected Governor Jared Polus's
plans to build a twenty nine million dollar bridge to
mark the state's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary. His team
is still shelling out tax payer dollars on a statewide
celebration next year, even though the majority of respondents to
that recent public survey that I just told you about
said they don't want any money.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Spent on it. So I turn off the microphone because
I feel like I'm about to sneeze. I'll keep going.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
If I'm gonna sneeze, I'll turn off the microphone for
a second, trying.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
To stifle the sneeze. This is the thing that happens
in radio. I think I'm good. I think I'm good.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
The America two fifty Colorado one fifty Commission, the majority
of which Polus appointed, is spending more than six hundred
and eighty six thousand dollars to organize the celebration. The
dozen signature initiatives the commission developed include a six part
history documentary for classrooms and a series of their own
shows to mark a new era, A new era of what.

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Other efforts include adding one hundred and fifty new or
revised historic sites and climbers summoning each of the state's
fourteen thousand foot mountains on July fourth of next year.
Now this is interesting because the article starts by talking
about spending a bunch of taxpayer money, but then this
says private foundations and donors are expected to cover the

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costs of the celebration. According to an internal commission document,
a hound a handful of foundations partner to donate five
million dollars to support the projects, but half of those
initiatives still lack funding, So the commission's members are fundraising
to cover the remainder, but they acknowledge that state and
local governments may need to contribute additional tax payer dollars

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for the celebrations at a time when officials are pinching pennies.
By the way, the governor's office already spent just over
a million dollars on the bridge that is not being
bid else some of that came from COVID money.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Think about that. By the way, last thing I'll say
on this, and.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
This is more of a macro thing, think about all
of the absolute nonsense that had nothing to do with
COVID that got funded by so called COVID money that
just added to the national debt that our children are
going to have to pay back. So now your kid
and mine are on the hook for paying back a
million dollars for a bridge that will never be built

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because the Biden administration passed this insane thing with an
unlimited amount of helicopter money. Is just an absolute travesty.
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(14:49):
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Speaker 1 (14:53):
Chevron for sponsoring us.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
All right, so producer A Rod is running barefoot up
and down the field at training camp.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I think was that you was that?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
You know?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
You know that wasn't me, but Brandon Jones safety for
the Denver Broncos is inspiring me to think about doing it.
Even his uh, even his wife has been chiming in
letting us know exactly why he's been doing it, and
the and the drills you've been doing it on Twitter.
Grounding and training strengthening all the small muscles at his
feet was today's reason for workout, says wife Brianna to
Brandon Jones.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Wow, yeah, my wife likes barefoot walks, but it's a
little more, she says it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
What does she say?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
She says, it aligns her chakras? What about means?

Speaker 6 (15:33):
I'll tell you this, I would say, and I told
this to Mile High Profit on Twitter today. It's it's
a lot of faith in the grounds crew for keeping
this hill immaculate and clean, because you know there's one
wrong piece of debris out here, or something not done
the right way, or that early in the morning.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
We're talking three hours before practice.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
That's risky so it is faith in the organization all
the way down to the grounds crew.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, for sure. You don't want thorns, you don't want rocks.
You don't want goose poop. No goose poop, no goose poop. Right,
you know what a rod before we keep going with
with broncos stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, I want to I want to bring on with
us Bob con So.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Bob is the owner or co owner.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Of of Flat Irons Fire, and Flat Irons Fire is
a wonderful partner to our morning show here and I'm
buying three fireplaces from them right now for our house
that we're remodeling. And listeners will be aware that Flat
Irons Fire is giving away this gorgeous outdoor fire pit.
It's a little bigger than three feet square. It is

(16:34):
a square with a circular opening, and it's it's like
hand finished concrete with an electronic ignition. It retails for
over forty thousand, forty four thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
And before we do the drawing, now.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
First Bob Hi, and then welcome to Koa.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
Oh, thank you, Ross, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Have you have you met any show listeners?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
We have? We actually had two come in yesterday. One
was actually a vendor, and then one was a customer
looking for fireplace that hangs from the ceiling, so really
cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Do you have one?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
We do fireplace that hangs from the ceiling?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Wow? Is it round?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Does it look like that one that I'm buying except hanging?

Speaker 7 (17:23):
It does? It's from European home and it looks just
almost exactly like yours, except to just open on one side.
But it rotates so wow, you can spin it in
the room. It's pretty really cool.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
All right.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And just in another just brief moment, if we might
bob of free advertising for you. I mentioned on the
show because I saw when I was over at your
shop that you sell a kind of fireplace that people
who live in Boulder can get even though they're not
allowed to use wood or natural gas. Can you just
take a couple seconds and explain that thing.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
Yeah, So you know, in Colorado there's certain areas that
they ban gas for new construction. You can't even pull
a permit if you're going to put gas there. And
so one of the units that we brought into our
new showroom was the element for it's a bioethanol unit,
and they used to have those years ago, but This
is really updated. It has a pump that brings in

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the bioethanol, so you're not trying to pour anything in there.
It's really a high end unit. In the past they
just the flame wasn't great. But this flame is amazing
and it really cranks out the heat. And it comes
in so many different options and sizes and different types
of looks. But it allows people an option to if

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they can't have gas for whatever reason, or they can't
bring gas to wherever they're wanting to put a fireplace
or vent it, then you can put a bioethanol unit
there and you don't have to vent it and you
don't have to run gas.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Love it all right.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
So what a Rod and I have done mostly a
Rod over the past four weeks to collect a total
of only twelve entry is into a giveaway that I
just described for this for this fire pit. And Bob,
do you want to add any more detail on the
fire pit beyond what I said?

Speaker 7 (19:14):
So, this is a really cool Bental fire pit from
prism Heartscapes. It's a really nice high end unit. Like
you had mentioned earlier, Ross that it's you know, kind
of a concrete kind of an express espresso look to it,
and you know, just it'll be an amazing flame electronic ignition.

(19:35):
It's just really it'll really set off whatever area you're
putting it on your patio, and you know, be able
to everyone sit around it and do everything. So it's
gonna look amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
All right.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So a Rod has gathered twelve entries, which means everybody
who want an entry has a one out of twelve
chance of winning. A Rod has randomly assigned each person
who won an entry a number from one to twelve.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I have not seen the list. I have not even
heard any names, and.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Neither has Bob.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
So only a Rod knows who the people are, and
only a Rod knows how they are numbered.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
So this is really blind random everything.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
So, Bob, we're gonna ask you to pick a random
number from one to twelve, and then a Rod will
tell us who the winner is.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
Okay, so I'm gonna actually pick number ten because of
the Broncos and Bonex So that was how I came
up with that idea.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So well that makes a Rod happy since he's a
bon Knicks fan. All right, A Rod, bringing you back
in here. So Bob picked number ten. Who is the
winner of this incredible outdoor fire.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Pit, Shannon, if you will please with our fantastic drum roll,
it's gonna go to missus or miss I'm not.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Sure what Holly, Yes, Holly, what is that a real name?

Speaker 6 (21:05):
I mean, hasn't Holly has an email that goes along
with it.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You would think that is a real name. But nonetheless,
Holly is our winner.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right, congratulations Holly. All right, Bob, we'll have Holly
get in touch with you and you guys will sort
out delivery and all that.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Right, Yes, awesome, Hey, and Bob.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
We're you have very kindly and generously agreed to support
another giveaway from Flat Irons Fire that will.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Do next month.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Do you happen to recall just what we're giving away
next month?

Speaker 7 (21:40):
So we're going to do and we haven't quite figured
out which one it's going to be, but it's going
to be a high end grill awesome that way. You know,
people stop quite a bit of time left in the
in the summer before it gets too cold to grill outside.
But we're going to do a grill giveaway.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Dude, I'll grill outside regardless of the temperature, so don't worry,
don't worry.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
About that, not that I'm allowed to win. All right.
That's Bob con the owner.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Or co owner of Flat irons Fire, the best place
to go for all your fireplace, outdoor fire pit, all
that stuff, all those needs, outdoor kitchens as well, even
sauna's indoor and out. They've got all that Flatironsfire dot com. Bob,
thanks for being a morning being a morning show partner,
and thanks for these awesome giveaways. It's really great for
the show and great for listeners to be able to

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win a four thousand dollars forty five hundred dollars thing.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's it's really wonderful of you. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
No, thank you, absolutely, all.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, we'll be in touch. Thanks Bob. All right, Hey
Rod Hollywood Sally would Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, what else you want to tell us about
training camp? Let's do a few more minutes of football.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, so this is day number five of training camp.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
It looks like it's going to be the third straight
day with pads out here, which is really really fun
to see because you always want to kind of see
that ramp up continuing. It's been a ramp up not
only of the pads coming on, but also the length
of practice, so that kind of acclamation to Kenny further
and further along with your install and further along with
getting these guys conditioned. So Monday ended around eleven forty five,

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Yesterday ended around noon, so maybe we're talking about an
additional fifteen minutes there, But it's another day where you're
kind of hoping that the offense kind of gets on
par with the defense. It's nothing surprising early on in
training camp that the defense, especially with a unit that is,
give me, widely considered one of the best, if not
the best unit in football in twenty twenty five, they've
had the upper hand so far. The defensive line has

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has really kind of taken it to one of the
better offensive lines in football with the Broncos, but the
defense has had the advantage. But today could be that
day maybe the offense breaks through. I will say with
this receiving corps, how deep it is, especially a wide
receiver that you know the six guys are going to have,
obviously led by Courtland Sutton and Marvin Mims, Evan Ingram,
that new weapon on offense who's just been really strong
out here and already been that security blanket for bo.

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So maybe today's that day of the offense kind of
takes over a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I asked you a couple of days ago when
we were talking about whether the weather was a factor
because it was very hot a couple of days in row.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yesterday was fairly cool.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Today is going to be even cooler with a little
overcast and a high in the seventies. Dude, when you're
watching practice, does it look to you to be the
same speed when it's really hot versus versus cooler, or
is it a little faster when it's cooler.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
It's it definitely seems to be a bit faster when
it's cooler like yesterday. As you mentioned it, yesterday we
didn't really see the sun at all. It was complete overcast.
There wasn't even any of the sun on the field,
and with the pads on as well that there was
definitely more of a of a ramp up in activity
in the physicality, especially at both at the line the
line of scrimmage. But today it's gonna be a little
bit different because even though it is cooler and this

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morning it was in the fifties, I mean it's now
it's reached up into the to the upper sixties.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
But there I don't see a cloud in the sky
right now.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
It is completely it is completely sun drenched field out here,
So I do notice that it can impact a bit.
And then maybe the other thing too, the more sun
and even though it's cooler, the sun being down in
yet still the sun.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Maybe with the pads and with the.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Offense looking to maybe make their mark, maybe today's the
day we see maybe temper start to flare a little bit, so.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
We'll have interesting Uh, this may be a little more
in the weeds than you're prepared to go, but I'm
gonna ask anyway. So there's obviously there are a lot
of wide receivers out there right now. And from talking
to you and from talking to Ryan Edwards, I you know,
I understand that it seems pretty clear who the guys

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are who are very likely already to make the team. Yeah,
And I'm wondering, among any of the guys who are
thought of, as you know, just trying hard for like,
let's say, to make the practice squad or maybe on
some crazy long shot to actually make the team, is
there anyone who is standing out to you among that group.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
Yeah, there always is his name has been this way
for a couple of years now, and that's Michael Bandy,
who has constantly been that Camp bouty.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
He reminds me kind.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Of the role in years past out at Camp, the
usefulness and kind of the do it all guy that
River Craikkraft has been a couple of years ago.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But but Bandy's been that guy. He broke through.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I think in maybe one game last year he did
get some action. But but honestly ross with with the
way the roster is shaken out, and especially with the
inability to go any deeper than probably six wide receivers,
just because of the talent that they have, the guys
that they already drafted last year. Now Kittoy, Franklin, hat
Brian coming into the fold this year. He already had Veile,
Sutton and Mims as well, and then Sherfield the special teams.

(26:25):
A So outside of Michael Bandy, who you're hoping that
can get on the practice squad again, I really don't
think anyone has even a punter's chance to make to
not only just make this roster, but but to be
a practice squad guy that's gonna have even a chance
of sniffing action this year.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
That's how deep it is.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
And that's without even including Evan Ingram, who at tight
end is gonna be as I mentioned, kind of security
blake for bow and maybe you know that go to
weapon as a receiving threat. So it's six wide receivers,
not even including Evan A wow. So so outside of
Michael Bandy, who you can rely on here in camp
year in and year out. Yeah, a good call up guy,
there really isn't any room for anything else this year.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
What about the dude who his last name and has
big hair, The dude, oh.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
You're talking about in this the the big giant fluffy hair,
the tyree Roan, the Utah State undrafted free age. I'm
actually looking at him right now. That first of all,
that hair, yeah, is one thousand percent immaculate. I hope
as a because he's a he's a rookie. Yeah, Rowan's
a rookie. I I really hope they don't do any
of the rookie haircuts with that guy because.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
That would be a shame upon us all.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
But but but he's had he's had some he's had
some moments where he looked good. He's he's always one
of the first guys out here to getting that getting
that work in h he's getting that working right now
alongside another wide receiver, Juwan Newton, another rookie out of
He's coming out of Toledo. So but his hair, speaking
of Rowen, his his hair is just is always going
to be the feature. And you know what, Ross, There's
something to be said about guys that are really bottom

(27:47):
of the roster, guys on drafted guys trying to make
their mark. You want your eyes their eyes on you
as much as possible. I would if I were them,
I would have the most outlandish, crazy hair or some
weird feature too. It's not the reason that you want
them to look at you, but at least it's gonna
be the first thing that they like. They'll pay attention
to you and then get and then look at you
on the film even though you got a helmet on
like stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Maybe he's crazy enough to get you notice. So I
love his hair. I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's producer A Rod coming us from Broncos training camp.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
He's there all week.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Thanks again to Chevron for supporting our k Away from
Training Camp broadcast. Thanks A Rod. We'll talk with you
again tomorrow, Thank you much. All right, So a ton
of stuff to do here today. I actually have another
Broncos story, but I'm gonna save it for a little
later so I can spread it out over the show.
Let's let me do a little bit of science nerdiness
with you, sort of climate change science nerdiness. And this

(28:37):
is something I didn't even know about, and I feel
a little dumb. I've been paying pretty close attention to
climate science and public policy around climate science for probably
twenty five.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Years, maybe maybe thirty years.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Like I'd pay more attention to this stuff than and
almost anybody who isn't actually involved in that in this
world for a living, all that the climate stuff. And
there was something I did not know. And Roger Pielka,
who we had on the show a couple of days
ago to talk about something related.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
But not this.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
His blog, his substack is called The Honest Broker, and
a piece that he posted actually the same day we
had him on the show two days ago is entitled
the Bad Science and Bad Policy at the heart of
the Climate Movement.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
And this is a this is.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
A pretty remarkable thing. Let me just let me find
this here. So yeah, this is this is pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
What what he has found is that and and I
guess this has been known science. It's not a new
discovery in science, in in climate science, but it's something
nobody has ever talked about. And and here's the idea
that sulfates. Right, So sulfate are things that come out

(30:01):
of tailpipes, especially diesel.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Certain factories and so on. And we have all this
equipment to try to get the sulfates.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Out of the air because it's they count more as
particulate matter then they count as you know, air pollution
in it just a gas sort of sense, changing the
composition like.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
More CO two. Right. But these these sulfates go up
into the atmosphere and they actually physically interfere which is
different from carbon.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Monoxide I'm sorry, carbon dioxide and other things. These things
physically interfere with the amount of light that can come
through the atmosphere to get through to the surface of
the Earth. This was also talked about in earlier days.
And it's a related thing aerosols. Right, You remember how
we're talking about we got to get rid of these

(30:56):
particular propellants and aerosol cans because they're going up into
this sky and they're damaging the ozone layer, and they're
you know, hanging out in the air.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And causing all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
So it turns out, according to this science that apparently
has been.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Well known and yet I and that I didn't know about.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It, that in recent decades, since people started really focusing
on reducing these kinds of aerosols and particulate matter in
the air again, whether coming out of factories or vehicles
or aerosol cans, what's happened is that the amount of

(31:35):
that pollution in the atmosphere has declined dramatically, and that
has actually resulted in a modest increase maybe half a
degree centigrade or something of.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Heating in the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Because the existence of these of these aerosols, sulfates and
other kinds of aerosols keeps the planet cooler. It would
be like it would be like putting just a little
bit of film on your car windows. Right right, you're
gonna what's that called channon When you put this tinting,

(32:16):
it's like putting a thin layer of tinting, not a
heavy tint. It would be like putting a just a mild,
mild tint on your car window enough that you could
feel like your car is not getting quite as hot.
And that's what these aerosols, including the cell fates, have done.
And now that we have cleaned those up so much,

(32:37):
it's worth realizing that a measurable, a really significant, according
to this part of the warming of the planet so
far in the last thirty years or so actually comes
from reducing these these aerosols. And then what Roger Pielka
goes on to discuss that I think is really also

(32:59):
important to know is you have all of these climate
alarmists seeing stuff like every additional tenth of a degree
of warming matters, right, and another person one point five
degrees celsius goal is ideal, but.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
One point six, one point seven, one point.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Eight are also worlds where humans can survive and to
an extent thrive. So so these people are arguing over
a tenth of a degree here and there being being significant.
And by the way, that's not even a thing they'd
be able to measure, right, A change of a tenth
of a degree or two tenths of a degree would
be massively overwhelmed just by the size of the error
in the measurements.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
But in any case, so.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
These people are saying we got to stop using cars,
we got to stop using gasoline lawnmowers and gas powered
leaf blowers, because we can't have another tenth of a
degree of warming.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Every tenth of a degree matters.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
And now you know, Roger's point is, all right, we're
getting rid of this pollution. And this is real pollution, okay,
these particulates, these are like physical things hanging in the air,
the stuff you really don't want to be breathing in.
It's true pollution, unlike carbon dioxide. And of course these
same people who say we cannot allow another tenth of

(34:14):
a degree and we need to stop all this stuff. Oh,
they're super happy with these tenths of a degree, right,
because they're just coming from a substance that they, you know,
they want to get rid of, and they don't care
about anything else.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
So they're not making.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
An excuse that the temperature change matters anymore. It's a
good thing regardless of the temperature change. And as Roger says,
by this logic, apparently some warming is acceptable instead.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Of every tenth of a degree matters.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's instead every tenth of a degree matter is unless
the benefits associated with that increased tenthative degree are larger
than the costs of avoiding it, which is less catchy
and more accurate. And as Rogers says, reducing air pollution
has costs but also benefits. But be careful acknowledging that
fact in the context of climate policy, because it turns
out that burning fossil fuels.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Also has costs, but it is.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Similarly accompanied by many benefits. Anyway, I thought that was
a fascinating story. I had never heard it before, and
I had never heard that the fact that we were
reducing this pollution in the atmosphere is having a measurable
increase on global temperatures. But of course the people who
claim to care so much about global temperatures never say

(35:29):
a thing about it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Did you put your trash out?

Speaker 5 (35:32):
I did this morning.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you didn't need to because I put your trash
out yesterday. So did you go home and put your
trash back in and then take it out again?

Speaker 5 (35:39):
That is absolutely correct, ridiculous, What a waste of energy.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Let's talk to my friend Dustin Savonak. Dustin used to
be an Aurori City councilman. Now he is principal at
seventy six Group, and he wants to tell us about
a couple of proposed ballot measures.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
I assume, but Justin will tell us because I.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Could easily be wrong that maybe only one one of
them will be on the ballot.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
But I could be wrong. How I'm thinking about this.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It is the concept here is a little bit strange,
not that the idea is weird, but the idea that
a ballot measure like this might be necessary. Because basically,
what the ballot measures say is if you tell us
you're going to tax us or fee us in order
to get money to spend on a particular thing.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Then spend the money on that thing. Hi, Dustin, Harry,
how are you doing? Good? Good? So elaborate please?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, no, So I'm going to start doing it answering
that the first question sounds like you had only one
of them would end up moving forward. The difference between
the two is simply one has a sunset after ten years.
As I'm sure that you and a lot of your
listeners are aware of, Colorado is a state that often
uses the sunset provision, and so there's a lot of
there's good arguments to be made for having a sense

(36:55):
that and not, but ultimately, a decision we made to
move forward with one or the other the heart of
the two measures, and I think you hit the nail
on the head and describe it like this. It seems
weird that we'd have to do this, but the fact
of the matter is we do. And what the measures
would do is it would require the legislature, this legislature

(37:16):
and future and governors to actually use the money that
we collect on the sales and use tax for the
sale of automobiles, on car parts, delivery fees, all the
things that over the years, you know, we've been promised
that these fees, these taxes, we're going to go towards roads,
but of course they don't. And whenever the state needs

(37:38):
to look for, you know, more money to put into
two new programs, expanding medicaid to whatever it is, it
tends to come at the expense of roads. And the
effect of that is that we have we have terrible roads.
I mean, if it doesn't take an engineer or a
rocket scientists to know that whether you live in the
urban areas around Denver Front Range area or if you're

(38:00):
out in the rural parts of our state, where our
rural roads have been rated forty seventh in the country
which again is not a flattering score for our state.
So what these measures would do is it would say
that the money that we're collected towards these must go
towards our roads. And the fact is this isn't a
novel concept. And you're probably familiar with Amendment twenty three,

(38:24):
which was passed many years ago, and these were advocates
for education funding said hey, we want to see a
percent this percentage plus the growth of the state budget
go towards education every year. So what we're doing is
now making an intentional effort to force discipline on this legislature,
future legislatures and the governor to invest in our roads

(38:48):
since they haven't been able to do it on their own.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
All Right, So I'm looking at the text of the measure,
and folks, you can find all this at Rosscomminsky dot com.
I've got links to these ballot measures and we've got
about just three and a half minutes you're dustin. And
so it says state revenue collected to support road transportation
means all state sales and use or xrise taxes, tolls
or fees imposed on motor vehicles and motor vehicle fuel,

(39:13):
as well as taxes imposed on vehicle rides and retail deliveries.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
So that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Whatever it is now twenty eight cents or whatever the
number is these days, two thirds of sales and use
tax collected on vehicle parts, equipment, materials, and accessories federal funds,
including grants from federal transportation agencies.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I'm shortening it here.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So is that your definition or is that the definition
already in law of state revenue collected to support road transportation?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So it is the definition that is in state law.
But what these measures would do is put in our
constitution so that there can't be any question about what
we're we're talking about when we're saying that that money
must go towards roads. They can't try it because we've
seen this in the past where they reclassify certain things
and say, well, this doesn't actually count toward it. So

(40:04):
we're taking everything that is currently defined and putting it
in the constitution so that it can't be just changed
willy nilly by the legislature, which we've seen in the past.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I thought it was interesting and intentional that you consistently
use road transportation rather than just transportation. Is that in
order to make sure that leftists don't take this money
and go spend it on light rail and bike lanes.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
That is exactly right. We don't want to see more
light rails and bike lane things that we know that
where it's popular for the controlling party in our state
to invest our transportation dollars. We want this to go
into roads bridges that have for years been neglected and underfunded,
and so that was very intentional to make sure that

(40:53):
those funds are going there.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It has been pretty incredible, actually, So I've lived in
Colorado for a little over twenty years, and obviously there
was a lot of growth before then too, but there's
been insane growth in the last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
And it has always seemed to me, I'm.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Talking about for years, well before I was ever on
the radio and anything like that, that they're taking in
all this money, and it's obvious that the population is
growing every year, growing a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
We were one of the fastest growing.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
States for many years, and almost nothing was spent on
road improvements. Almost nothing was spent on on I twenty five.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Eventually they did some toll lanes here and there.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
But it seems like, you know, I'm president of the
Bad Analogy Club Dustin, so I'm gonna give you one.
So what it reminds me of a little bit is
those those many years where at the federal government level
they ran a social security surplus and they stole the
money and put in.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
These useless bonds, but basically they stole the money to
go spend.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
It on other things, so the money is not actually
available for social Security. And this kind of feels like
a similar bait and switch to me for years and
years and years.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, that's exactly what happens.
And looking part of it is because when there are
tough times economically and the state has to make tough decisions,
they always find it easier to cut from roads because
the other things that they would have to potentially cut
there are advoacy groups that will come and you know,
tuget their heart strings, and it's easier to tuget people's

(42:23):
heart strings over things like education and healthcare and other
social services as opposed to roads. But the fact is
that doing that consistently year after year, and I saw
this as a you know, the city councilman. The same
thing happened to Aurora, our roads, our neighborhood roads, had
been neglected for years and years, and I came up
with a plan that would fund our neighborhood roads without

(42:43):
raising taxes, simply by prioritizing the money that we're already collecting.
And so that's that's the other key thing with these measures.
This isn't new money. This is money that we call
out of taxpayers are already paying through our taxes, through
fees that's supposed to go to roads, there's not, and
this would force the legislature to spend those dollars can
prove our roads going forward.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's Dustin's Ivonak.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
He is principal at seventy six Group, former Auror City
councilman as well, talking about a couple of ballot measures
that are currently numbered one twenty five and one twenty six,
only one of which will be on the ballot that
would aim to force state government to spend taxes and
fees that are collected for road transportation to actually be spent.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
There.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
We'll keep in touch Dustin's, you know, as you make
progress getting this actually onto the ballot, deciding what's going
to be on the ballot, and we'll keep the issue
in front of listeners.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Thanks for the time. It's winning round.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
All right, you're welcome. We'll take a quick break. We'll
be right back on Kawa. Footage this morning of this
sort of a tribute to Ozzy in I guess in
I don't know actually where.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I know he's from Birmingham, bot do they live? Where
do they live?

Speaker 5 (43:51):
I'm not entirely sure.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But Sharon Osbourne was there and she was in tears.
She had a.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Young woman and a young man on either side of her,
kind of a scorting her, and she put flowers down.
And it wasn't at a gravesite. It was a tribute
somewhere in the middle of the city.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It was. It was interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You're you're wearing a Robin's egg blue colored shirts.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
There's a good description of the color of this shirt.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, I mean it's it's almost a preppy look that
I don't I.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Think it's a Ralph Lauren shirt. Is that a little polo? Yeah? Wow?
What like? That's not very you, I think.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
I mean, I own nice clothes, I just don't wear
them often.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Mm hm oh.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
Let me tell listeners about this picture. That listener is
it Jacob?

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Is that his name? We've been sending sending.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Us some pictures, and we've talked quite a bit on
the show about some of the terms that we find
amusing in their frequent usage from our traffic reporters. And
I told you about sluggish, and I told you the
joke that producer Shannon has has told me. So whenever
I hear about traffic being sluggish, I think of a slug.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I won't go through the joke again.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
And then they often say that traffic is jamming, and
then I always think we be jamenman, and I think
of Bob Marley, and I think about days at the
at my nightclub in Chicago where we did Reggae Sundays
and played reggae music and everybody.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Was jomming and and so.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And then of course we know of of dragons, love
and admiration for for moths and so. So I just
want you to know if you go to my blog
today at Rosskominsky dot com, the blog thumbnail and then
it's embedded in the blog as well, is a picture
that was created presumably by AI. I don't think Jacob
is drawing these things that incorporate all of this stuff

(45:43):
slugs and jamming and traffic and moths and all of it,
and you didn't freak out when you saw it. Even
though there's moths in it. It's not terrifying. It's not terrifying,
not terrifying. Yeah, maybe exposure therapy is slowly working.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
I knew because they don't really look like monts. Maybe,
but I mean, eh, a listener wants to know if
you have court today. No, not today, not today? All right,
let me do.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Something else for a minute here. You know, I enjoy
following the stock market. I don't talk about it, probably
as much as I should. I don't talk about individual
stocks very much. But I wanted to share this particular stock,
this particular stock story with you about company called Novo Nordisk.
And you may or may not have heard of Novo Nordists,
but you sure have hacked sure as heck have heard

(46:38):
of their products because they make Ozempic and also we
go Vy. They're similar drugs the waygov was kind of
released as a weight loss drug.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Ozempic was released as a.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Diabetes drug, but used by many people in an off
label fashion, which by the way, does not mean illegal,
It just means not the purpose it was approved by
the FDA for. But doesn't mean you can't do it.
It doesn't mean doctors can't use it for another thing.
And so that's ozepic when it's used for weight losses
and off label use.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
In any case, the reason that I wanted.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
To mention this to you is that yesterday Novo Nordisk
stock and let me actually check what it's doing today.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
But yesterday, wow, yesterday Novo.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Nordisk stock was down over twenty one percent, and it's
down another five and a half percent today, So it's lost.
This company has lost in the past couple of days
something on the order of seventy or seventy five billion

(47:41):
dollars of market capitalization.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
And I was looking up what.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Are the biggest market cap losses ever in American stocks,
and there are a lot that are much bigger.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Than this, But I did not find any.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Market cap single day market cap loss or even probably
two day market cap loss that was not a technology
stock if you were willing to include Tesla as a
technology stock, which is how I think of it. But
all of these other massive losses were like Facebook, Apple, Tesla, Microsoft,
So of any company that makes, you know, like a

(48:19):
physical product, not just software or again, I'm going to
include Tesla as a tech company. This is the biggest
single day market cap loss of any company like that
in the history of the American stock market. And that
is just an incredible thing. And the bottom and the
bottom line is it's because of competition. It's because of

(48:40):
Eli Lilly in particular, which makes a couple of other
a couple of other drugs, in particular zep Bound, which
I guess is having huge success. And we've talked about
this on the show, so we're a little ahead of
the curve on this story. These compounders, these compounders who
make these drugs for a fraction of the price and

(49:00):
just slightly modify them so they can say they're custom
tailored drugs, Like they'll mix some vitamin B in and say, right,
this is custom tailored for you.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
So we can sell it now.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
And Nova Nardisk said, between competition from Eli Livell Eli
Lilly and competition from compounders, their sales and profits are
going to be quite a bit lower than predicted. Still growing,
but growing much much less than expected, and so that
led to one of the biggest losses of market cap
in American stock market history.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
You have snappy fingers and what what's it about?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
What on the show sheet.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
You had a lawsuit against the you know, SNAP recipients,
So oh yeah, but you weren't going to follow that matter. Actually,
I'm I am gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I am it were I no, I was because because
intrepid Chad Bauer just talked about Phil Wiser suing somebody
else for something else whatever. It is Phil Wiser, who
buy as a friend of mine, but he's suing somebody
usually the Trump administration, every other day.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And there was a.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Piece over at Axios yesterday from John Frank who says
how Colorado's ag is fighting Trump in court.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
And I'm gonna do this very briefly. It's a big story.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
But the reason I'm gonna do this very briefly is
within the last hour I confirmed that I'm gonna have
Phil Wiser on the show next week to talk about it.
So I don't need to do this in depth now
because I'm gonna do it in depth.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
With him later.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
But he has sued the Trump administration over two dozen times.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
And then this other thing that Dragon just mentioned from
the Colorado.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Son, Colorado jumps onto lawsuit against USDA over demand for
personal information of Snap recipients.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
And then whatever Chad just said, Wiser is suing somebody else. Oh,
he's suing.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Pet Smart over something regarding I actually know what.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Those things are. It's a it's actually an interesting issue.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
It's a thing where some companies made people agree that
the company will train them pay for certain kinds of training,
but then if the person leaves the company, the person
needs to repay the company for whatever the training cost was.
And this seems kind of bad actually, and Phil is

(51:16):
suing and he's not the only one suing about that.
So I think some of it is Phil Wiser really thinking, hey,
this stuff is wrong and we need to stop it.
And then I also think a fair amount of it
is Phil running for governor and he wants to get
his name in the news as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
So I'm going to ask him about all that.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
And again we're friends, but I told him, like, dude,
you are suing the Trump administration like every third day.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
It's kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
So, you know, and he's not going to say on
the air or even maybe in private, that he's doing
it out of any kind of politics. He's going to say,
I'm against all of these things. It's not just I'm
against these things that Trump is doing.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
It's I think they're illegal, that's what he'll say.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
And so you know, the Democrats who are suing Trump
over and over and over again are they're probably gonna
lose more than they win. But whatever, So there's that
I want to So I did actually believe it or not? Dragon?
You played music that was for what on the show
sheet looked like the wrong segment. Correct, Yeah, And then

(52:21):
it turned out I was actually going to talk about it.
I don't think that's ever happened before.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
I really wish I believed you, because you've rarely follow
your shows now anyway, so just and I might not
have gone there.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
But then when Chad talked about Wiser suing, and you know,
I like to follow up on stuff that our newspeople say,
so it really is true. I'm look, I want to
be really clear, Dragon, I'm not saying I wouldn't lie
to you. I definitely would. I'm just not right now, Okay,
as long as we're clear on that. Yeah, I've had

(52:53):
this story for a few days and it's a bit
of a long story.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I'm gonna kind of filter my way through it.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
So I don't take too much of your time with it,
but I think it's really interesting. This is from four
oh four Media, the website four o four media dot co,
not dot com, and the headline is a startup is
selling data hacked from people's computers to debt collectors.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
This is a crazy story.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
And I will just say at the beginning, it is
unclear to me whether what they are doing is legal.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It might not be illegal.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I'm torn between thinking it's basically receipt of stolen goods
effectively or selling stolen goods, or whether it's well, this
data is out there and I can find it, and
so I'm gonna do something with it.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
In fact, you know what I should do. Speaking of
a guy who likes to sue everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I should probably send this to Phil Wiser and ask
him if his office this behavior as legal. It is
not a Colorado story, by the way, It's just a story.
So let me share this with you. When your laptop
is infected with info stealing malware, it's not just hackers
that might get your passwords, billing and email addresses, and

(54:14):
a list of sites or services you've created accounts on,
potentially including some embarrassing ones. A private intelligence company run
by a young founder, is now taking that hacked data
from what it says are more than fifty million computers
and re selling it for profit to a wide range

(54:35):
of different industries, including debt collectors, couples in divorce proceedings,
and even companies looking to poach their rivals customers. Essentially,
the company is presenting itself as a legitimate legal business
but selling the same sort of data that was previously
typically sold by anonymous criminals on shady forums or underground channels.

(54:56):
Multiple experts four h four Media spoke to call to
practice d deeply unethical and in some cases the use
of that data is probably illegal. The company is selling access,
also selling access to a subset of the data for
anyone for as little as fifty dollars, and four h
four Media used it to uncover unsuspecting victims' addresses. So

(55:20):
the activities of this company called Farnsworth Intelligence show a
dramatic shift in the bevy of companies that collect and
sell access to so called open source intelligence or OSINT. Historically,
ocent has included things like public social media profiles or
flight data. Now, companies increasingly see data extracted from people's

(55:43):
personal or corporate machines and then post it online as
fair game, not just to use in their own investigations,
but to repackage and sell. Cooper Quinton, a senior public
interest technologist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, We've had those
folks on the show from time to time in the past.
Told four h four media to put it plainly, this

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company is profiting off selling stolen data, revictimizing people who
have already had their personal devices compromised and their data stolen.
This data will likely be used to further harm people
by police using it for surveillance without a warrant, stalkers
using it to gather information on their targets, high level scams,

(56:26):
and other damaging motives.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Now, how does this work? Infostealers? Now? Are this term
now infostealers?

Speaker 2 (56:34):
We're talking about the technology, not the people using the technology.
Could also think of them as people stealing info. Put
in this context, infostealers are software, their malware, often stealthily
bundled in a piece of pirated software that steal a
victims cookies. Cookies are little bits of code that note

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what websites you've been on, and can sometimes include things
like preferences like your username right, or what kind of
on eBay? What what kind of stuff you like looking at?
You know, you like looking at Chinese antiques.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Those are cookies, loging credentials, and often more information stored
in their browser too, and on its website this group,
Farnsworth lays out several potential uses for the stolen data,
including skip tracing. Well they misspell it as skip tacing tacing,
but it's skip tracing, which is where a private individual

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or company tracks down someone who owes a debt. So,
in other words, skipping out on a debt and you
are trying to trace the person who skipped down on
the debt. The skip tracing the website says users can
find debtors up to date addresses.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Another use case is to find high impact.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Evidence that can make or break the case of multimillion
dollar lawsuits, high value divorce cases et CELA. A third
use case is to generate lead lists of customers or
users from competitors from competitors from competing companies, because the
data could show which competing products they have loging credentials.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
For and presumably use.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
You know what, it goes on a lot from there,
and I'm not even halfway through the article, and i
don't want to share all of it with you, but
I'm just going to share a couple more things. The
eff guy said, this is so gross and predatory. They
are facilitating and enabling further exploitations of victims of a
crime and bragging about how multiple criminal acts make their

(58:37):
business better.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Moral bankruptcy is common.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
In this industry, but I rarely see a company so
proud of it. The company offers two different products. One
is much more expensive than the other. The second one
is only a minimum of fifty bucks to search through results,
and they don't include victims full passwords. But the bigger
package that you can buy will include victims pass words

(59:00):
to certain websites. If it's there in the data, it's
pretty nuts, right, It's pretty nuts. Also, hackers wanting these
operations often create Telegram channels where they can upload personal
data that their malware has stolen. Other criminals then can
pay to access the stolen data, and the administrator of

(59:20):
one profile one prolific I'm sorry infostealer campaign told four
oh four media this brings us good income, but I'm.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Not ready to disclose specific amounts. Anyway, I'm going to
stop there.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I mean, I did a lot already, but it's a
really remarkable thing that these people are out there taking
stolen data and then selling it. And like I said,
it feels to me like something that should be illegal,
the same way that if I, you know, stole a

(59:53):
Ferrari and then gave it to Dragon and then Dragons
sold it knowing it was we'd both be victims of crimes,
not just me. And I wonder about this, and I
think maybe I will send that along, to send that
along to Phil and see.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
If he see if he knows about it. Let me
come back to a football story that I kind of like.
So I mentioned yesterday that I am negotiating my next
contract with iHeart.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Did you hear me talk about this yesterday, Dragon or
did I a little bit?

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Okay, And I mentioned that I expect, I think I
will be fortunate to sign a four year, ninety two
hundred dollars deal with iHeart, unlike Courtland Sutton, who just
signed a four year, ninety two million dollar deal.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Little more, a little bit more, just a smith.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
With the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
The difference is only zeros and no matter how many zeros,
the difference is zero, right, no matter because no matter
how many zeros you add up or multiply, it's zero.
So there's really, on a mathematical basis, almost no difference
between my four year, ninety two hundred dollars deal in
Courtland Sutton's deal. Anyway, interesting piece in the Denver Post

(01:01:10):
by Sean Keeler yesterday, and essentially what this says is
they're actually kind of formulas out there that are well known,
I guess, in the industry. And there's even a website
that you can go to to estimate a player's market value.

(01:01:32):
And let's see, ninety two million dollars is over four years,
twenty three million a year average. And however, the contract
is structured. I don't remember how much is guaranteed and
all that, but whatever, it's a ninety two million dollar contract.
And this particular website, as noted in this article, says
that Courtland Sutton's worth in today's NFL is probably more

(01:01:56):
like twenty seven million dollars a year, so over four years,
maybe twelve million dollars more than Courtland Sutton signed four
And I just I got so much respect for this dude.
I'm a capitalist, right, I'm a capitalist. But I mean
even for me, and I'm gonna be serious now here.

(01:02:18):
If I were going to do something that we're gonna
get me ninety two million dollars, and there were another
thing that I could do that would get me twelve
million dollars more, there might be some considerations in there
in which I might say I'll skip that extra twelve
million because of this other potential benefit to me, even

(01:02:39):
if it's indirect or intangible. And it's of course easier
to say that when you're talking about going from ninety
two million to one hundred and four million.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Let's say it's easier to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Then it might be if you were going from one
million to twelve million, right Like, if you already got
ninety two million, another twelve million is probably not going
to change your life. If you've got two million, another
twelve million will change your life. So back to this piece,

(01:03:17):
Courtland Sutton told this reporter it wasn't about me at
the end of the day. Yes, we work in a
business of compensation. He says, there's talent in that locker room,
guys coming up trying to get their second contract. I
was blessed to be able to get my third. They
put the work in just the same way as I have.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Again I'm quoting Courtland Sutton here from this article.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
And some of those.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Guys have more accolades than I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Did when it comes to the NFL side of things,
and to be able to sign the deal that we did,
it gives us a chance to keep these guys around.
And what the reporter says, Nick Bonito's reps are pursuing
an extension. Also, Zach Allen, Jonathan Franklin Myers, Malcolm Roach,
PJ Lock, Alex Singleton, and Justin Sternod are all heading
into their contract years. And so what Courtland Sutton is

(01:04:04):
saying is that he intentionally took twelve million dollars less
so that the Broncos would have some flexibility under salary
cap to bring some of these guys back and have,
you know, have some room to sign them. And I
think it's partly because Courtland Sutton likes them, and it's
also because Courtland Sutton wants to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
And I think that's just fabulous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
So the reporter asked just In by way of elaboration,
asked Courtland Sutton, were you conscious count were you conscious
of all of these guys who I just mentioned heading
into contract years And Sutton said one thousand percent. I
was conscious of that, and I think that's a remarkable thing.

(01:04:48):
DK Metcalf is playing on a four year deal with
Pittsburgh worth thirty three million a year. AJ Brown for
the Eagles thirty two million a year now, and Sutton
has got more catches than Metcalf since the start of
the twenty twenty three season, And Courtland has nineteen touchdowns

(01:05:08):
over that span compared to fourteen for Brown and thirteen
for Metcalf. And so, in other words, what the reporter is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Saying is that not only is Courtland Sutton being somewhat underpaid,
but he did it intentionally in order to make sure
that the Broncos had room to bring back these other guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
And again, I don't know how much of it is
because Courtland Sutton simply likes those guys and would love
to be able to keep playing with them, keep them
in Denver because they're is friends, versus how much he
thinks it would be great to have them back to
maximize the chance of winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
And my guess is it's a little of both. And
I do think that that is a really remarkable thing.
And Courtland Sutton said, I had the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Utmost faith that something was going to get done, and
the last thing I wanted to be was a distraction.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
And I just wanted to not be a distraction. So
there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I just wanted to share that story with you because
so often you hear stories that are so opposite of that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
In the NFL, guys holding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Out right, And I want to be real clear, I
don't hold anything against anybody who is going to make
as much money as they possibly can. That that's your responsibility,
right to your family.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
To ever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
And and frankly, it's a it's a it's a business.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
It's a multi billion, multi multi billion dollar business the NFL.
And I don't think that players need to have any
responsibility when it comes to negotiating contracts to anyone other
than themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I really don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I mean, I kind of feel the same way about myself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Right, It's my job to get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
The same contract, the best contract I can, not just
for my heart, but just hypothetically in anything.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
That I'm doing. And at some point, if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I were making enough money, then I would start thinking
about all right, what's best for all the other people
around me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Now, this isn't a team sport.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I mean it's me and Dragon, right, but it's not
a team sport the same way in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
NFL is okay. So he's got really more team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Things to think about than I do. But if he
had said no, I'm going to hold out for that
extra four million a year and I don't care what
it does to anybody else, I wouldn't have held that
against him. But I do also think it's refreshing to
see a guy who has some other values. I'm not
saying he needed to have them, and I'm not saying

(01:07:46):
I would have looked down on him if he had done.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
It the way everybody else seems to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
But just the fact that he did it this way,
I have tremendous admiration for tell me your thoughts at
five six six nine zero, will be right back. I
was thinking about whether this this next thing might be
a waste of your time, and then of course that
made it much more appealing to you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Never waste anybody's time, ever, Just like we would never say, hey,
Siri tuned to KA on iHeartRadio, right, and I would
never ever also say Hey, Alexa, can you tell me
a recipe for lemon cheesecake?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Why would we do that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
It wouldn't It is with the national days, isn't it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
It cheesecake Day?

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
It is cheesecake Day, lemon cheesecake, but it is National
Cheesecake Day?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
All right? Who makes the best cheesecake folks wear? And
then cheesecake factories? Pretty good?

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Is there a bad cheesecake? It's cheesecake.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
It is cheesecake. What's your favorite flavor of cheesecake? Tell
us at five six six nine zero.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
And remember remember there are no wrong answers, although there
are right answers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Five six six nine zero. What's the best cheesecake? And
where do you buy the best cheesecake?

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
Let me know?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Maybe I'll get a piece today now, all right? So Dragon,
I was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
This before and you said it's not gonna work because
you're not on the air, right, You're one hundred percent
on the air. One for twenty yesterday was bad. It
was one of my worst. It was one of my
worst performances yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
All right, are you ready?

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Yeah, this is the other thing you said. If you're
an announcer at a sporting event. The athlete doesn't hear.
I can't hear the announcer, so I can't react to you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
When I mentioned your tiny hands, you you went all off.
Yeah that distracted you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, it did distract me, although I made it. I
did make it. Because that's the that is the power
of the steel trap of my mind. I can.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I can compartmentalize and tune out all of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Unlike Donald Trump, talk about your dirty calves. All right ready,
the balls actually already crumbled up. Because Ross tried to
do this off air and missed three or four times
in the exact same spot. It was really remarkable how
you could miss wrong the exact same way both times.
Ross checks the wind direction going from north to south,

(01:09:56):
so he needs to compensate for that. He did not
compensate or check the wind when he checked off.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Air announcer, who I can't interact with. Make sure people
know how far away I am you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
Yes, he did step back, he says, far away from
the trash can as he possibly could. In the Kiowa studio,
he winds up and goes for it and miss is
the opposite side as he had missed before. But this
is terrible, because this is the first time on air
in several days that he has missed it. Trying it again,
off the front of the rim, then the back of

(01:10:27):
the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Swish into the trash can.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
All right, not a swish because it would hit the
rim first, but yes, off one rim, off the other room, then.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Stand straight down.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
Okay, what's a swish?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
After a couple of banks?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Oh boy, I am much better? Why am I better?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Making the crumpled up ball of paper into the trash
can on the air? But I'm better at name that
tune off the air pressure. But that was a lot
of pressure. I mean, I'm trying to sign a four
year ninety contract with iHeart, and if I'm if I'm
missing the three pointers. I got to make the three

(01:11:04):
pointers in order for them to think I'm worth you
know that much? Oh all right, let me share this
with you. I've had this. I've had this for a
few days, and I'm going to get through as much
of it as I can right now. And if I
can't quite finish it, I'll do the last bit in
the next segment. Because Dragon just wasted so much of
your time with that other thing.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
This is a guy named Kevin Bass, PhD. And he's
got one hundred and sixty two thousand followers on the
Twitter machine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
And here's what he says.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
If you want to understand why the universities have become stupid,
you need to understand that the universities have.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Literally become stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
The average undergraduate IQ has fallen by nearly twenty points
in eighty years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
That is massive.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
And the drop has happened at every level of education. Wow,
and this is this is every level of higher education, right,
so college, grad school, further professional schools, medical school, law school,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
The average IQ has dropped a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I'm going to continue. He put out a whole thread
on this. Undergraduates have become much dumber. Graduates have become
much dumber. Graduate students have become much dumber. Lawyers have
become much dumber, Doctors have become much dumber. PhDs have
become much dumber. And the steady increase in dumbness continues
to the present day. And while we do not have

(01:12:34):
the data showing it directly, it is extremely likely that
professors have also become much dumber and keep getting dumber.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
What's caused this, Well, it's not rocket.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Science parentheses, something that fewer and fewer people in the
universities can do. University graduation has increased from five percent
of the population to forty percent of the population, so
universities are now much less selected, that is to.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Say, dumber.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Apart from the increasing incompetence of people with university educations,
this explains a lot of things happening today with too
many university graduates competing for jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
The dumb ones know that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
They cannot compete on an even playing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Field, so they invoke politics.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
When people fail, they either say I was discriminated against,
or if they have really lost the aspirations, they say
you were discriminated against. Both stances help people get promotions
in overly competitive job markets filled with over credentialed dumb people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
The point of all of this is the following.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
You cannot change the ideology of the universities to get
rid of the rot. The rot has happened because the
universities have become stupid. The rot has not happened because
they have become ideological. It's the other way around.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
If we want the universities not to be stupid, if
we want them to be respected institutions with actual scientific legitimacy.
We have to make them literally not stupid again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
This means making them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
More exclusive, more selective, and fewer in number. It's not
enough to simply say stop being rotten and stupid. University
funding has to be dramatically cut. Universities need to be downsized,
and they need to become hallowed institutions where only the
country's best and brightest can go again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
If this sounds elitist, well it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Do you want universities to be bastions of high level,
high levels of competence or do you want them to
be places filled with stupid people who say trust the science,
followed by unspeakably stupid things that they call science. If
we want to be able to trust the universities again,

(01:14:55):
if we want to make science great again, we have
to make them smart again.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
That is that is really something. That is really something.
And there's more from there, but I'll start. I'll add
one other thing for skeptics. It should be noted that
dozens of papers in the scientific literature all points to
the same conclusion. The paper mentioned above, whose publication was
canceled without explanation, was simply reanalyzing this literature collectively So
basically what he's saying is there's a lot of data

(01:15:24):
out there to show that, at least based on IQ,
the average IQ of a college student, or college graduate,
or graduate student or or grad school graduate and so
on those numbers, the average of those has declined a
lot over the past few generations. And I'll tell you what,

(01:15:44):
twenty IQ points is a lot, right, Twenty IQ points
is a lot if you if you, you know, were
to just have a conversation with a person with one
hundred IQ and a person with one hundred and twenty IQ,
you would very much be able to tell the difference
in most situations.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Right, it's a or go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
From one twenty to one forty or the other way,
go from one hundred to eighty. Right, you really can
you really can tell the difference. One hundred, by the way,
is defined to be average, and twenty points is a
Twenty points is a big, big deal in any case.
I love that in partly because I am I'm an

(01:16:23):
elitist to myself, and I'm proud of it, but also
because I think he's absolutely right. And this has been
going on for a long time that colleges for a
variety of reasons chasing money, chasing wokeness, and saying we're
gonna let dumber people in just because they have a
different skin color. So we're gonna say we prioritize the
skin color over the quality of their brain.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
And let me just make something very very clear here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I'm not saying that there can't be the most ultimate
geniuses in the world of any skin color, right any
it could be white, black, brown, purple, yellow, polka dot.
Anybody could be the smartest person in the world. The
top ten smartest people in the world could all be
polka dot people. Not making any statement about one given
group inherently being less smart.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Than any other group.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
What I am making a statement about is college is
letting people in based on skin color rather rather than merit,
even when that means taking people of a particular skin
color who are not who wouldn't get in based on
merit alone, and thereby reducing or increasing the stupidity of

(01:17:27):
the school. Did you want to say something Dragon?

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Two quick things idiocracy the movie was not a guidebook
for how we should live our civilization. And another thing,
I know we said that there was no wrong answers
on the text line, but this one is the wrong answer.
The best cheesecake is no cheesecake.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
That's sad. And two different people said blue cheese cheesecake.
At least two. I see two so far. Why do
you hate me?

Speaker 7 (01:17:58):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Who is that? Is it like a sesame street thing?
Louis Armstrong?

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Is it really? Really? That's amazing? Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
One one listener says, Ross, your toddler palette is showing again,
and I say, thank you. I've never denied that. Nothing
wrong with a toddler palette. It's fine, absolutely fine with me.
He's delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Yesterday I had a couple of the sour version of
gummy bears, you know, the ones that are coated with
a little bit of citric acid. Yeah, lovely, now, Dragon,
I think we've done a little bit of damage to
listeners brains over the years, because I have multiple listeners
now asking me if I would eat a blue cheesecake

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but not a blue cheese cake.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
I would love to try a blue cheesecake.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Of course, I would eat a blue cheesecake as long
as it didn't have stinky cheese in it or bell
pepper right, but it was just you know, a cheesecake
that happened to be blue.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Would definitely eat that right and just just so we
can and remember, in that last segment of the show,
I was talking about kind.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Of being an elitist, and from time to time people
text me say and say, Ross, you are such an elitist,
and I always respond thank you or I know or
I'm not shy about any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
That just whatever, you've worked to get there, yeah, I
mean worked to get where you are.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
So look, I have worked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I have worked so hard my whole life, studied hard,
done everything I needed to do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
That I am this close now to being able to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Sign a new four year, ninety two dollars contract with
my employer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
That's how good I am. Toddler Pellett.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
A bunch of people mentioned key Lime Pie and wondering
if key lime pie either is a cheesecake itself or
this is one that really intrigues me in Dragon because
I love key lime pie. It's my favorite pie. And
this person says, key lime pie cheesecake made in the instapot?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
How does right? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Whoever you are who said key lime pie cheesecake made
in an instapot, I want you to email me the
recipe at Ross at iHeartMedia dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
How does that work?

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
I think cheesecake would be more easily classified in the
pie category rather than the cake category.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Because of the crust. Right Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure,
And that's fine. I'm not hung up on the word name. Yeah,
I'm not hung up on that part.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
Ross. Do you also eat Gerbers? No?

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
Not in a few years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Yeah, I'm just so. I did have oatmeal this morning,
but not Gerber oatmeal.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Oh I made.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
So They've got this new who makes the oatmeal, Quaker, right,
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
The supermarkets have their own brains. But I got.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
This this Quaker apples and cinnamon oatmeal that's a high
protein variety. And then they make a subset of that
high protein with no sugar added. And it's obviously already
oatmeal has carbs, but and I'm trying to do kind
of sort a low carb but not no carbs.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
So I get the I get that, I get the
low sugar variety.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I made a very delicious one dragon this morning, right,
So two packets, two packets of that oatmeal do the
microwavy thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
And then what did I put in at dragon? You ready?
You ready? This could no?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
And some of this comes from my experience with the
whole weight loss thing. I put in a little bit
of a very very fancy would I dare say, elitist
olive oil?

Speaker 5 (01:21:42):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Olive? Yes, a little bit of olive oil.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Sometimes I also put in butter I put in I
put in half and half, just a little, and then
a spoonful dribbled over the top of honey from my bees.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
That makes sense, And that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
So it was nothing terrible. There are olive oil.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Well, olive oil is very good for you, and you
can't really taste it surious and it's very.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Very taste it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
Why are you putting it in there?

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Because it's good for your body.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
That's why all this Mediterranean diet thing, that's why all
those people lived to two hundred and seventeen over there
in Albini or where they have a Mediterranean diet.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
You're just trying to be elitist. Folks, If you have
a favorite muppet texted to us at five six six
nine zero, we would like to know we're asking you
a lot of dumb questions today. So anyway, so in
the previous segment, we were talking a little bit about cheesecake,
and then Dragon played a song cheesecake.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
That I thought was Muppets or Sesame Street or something,
and it turned out.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Has a little bit of a Muppet kind of voice.
He does think he does. And I went, I went,
and I looked this thing up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
And obviously Louis Armstrong was making music for a long,
long time. Some of his very first hits were actually
in the late nineteen twenties eight Misbehaving Right nineteen twenty nine.
This song, well, the version that Dragon played is from
nineteen sixty six. And I found something at vocal dot Media.

(01:23:06):
This is kind of funny. Now for a little history
on the term cheesecake. Cheesecake was an American slang word
that became publicly acceptable for scantily clad, semi nude, or
nude photos of women in the early twentieth century. Armstrong,
like many jazz musicians of his day, was known for

(01:23:27):
enjoying a dirty joker too. I guess we can say
cheesecake is Armstrong's dirty joke, although upon closer inspection of
these lyrics, you can actually deduce that the song is
in fact innocent and is about how Armstrong's girlfriend likes
sweet things and dessert, munching on a cheesecake.

Speaker 8 (01:23:46):
That's a whole different. I know, that's why I thought
i'd share it with you. It's kind of funny that
this writer would explain all that and then go on
to say, but that's actually not what's going on in
this particular song. Sure right, right, So that song Cheeseca
was used. I don't even know what this means for the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
UK spot whatever that means in episode two hundred and
twenty two of The Muppet Show.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
It went into.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
This show premiered in the US on November twenty first,
nineteen seventy seven, and then the UK December second.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Nineteen seventy seven. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
All you wanted to know about the song Cheesecake. The
Muppets are creepy Kermit.

Speaker 5 (01:24:27):
I mean, that's just too easy. He's the front man.
It's here's the I sure, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Look, I know I'm in so much trouble already with
my opinions about Winnie the Pooh. For example, Kermit's the
Muppet version of Winnie the Pooh. He's boring. He's sweet,
and he's boring, and you wouldn't want to hang out

(01:24:55):
with him unless you needed to take a nap and
you needed something to to function.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Is a so horrific because you could not afford somin x.
I am a little surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
Michael Bennett too. I feel the same way about.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Michael Bennett, Winnie the Pooh and Kermit, They're all they're
the same person.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
Kaikai, I am a bit surprised. And nobody said Miss
Piggy yet with her energy. Yeah, I mean come on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Yeah, Well, at the end of that Muppet cheesecake thing,
the muppets who are the background singers go to try
to eat the cheesecake and Miss Piggy stops them. In
any case, Beaker is is a listener. Beaker is my
favorite muppet. Beaker is awesome. Huge fan. Gonzo was a
close second, also huge fan. Yeah you got fine taste,
whoever you are. I like Statler and Waldorf. Ooh yeah yeah,

(01:25:42):
real good, real good. All right, we still have a.

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
Ton of stuff to do today, and keep those cards
and letters coming.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
At five six, six nine zero.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
In answer to whatever stupid questions I've asked you today,
and I know I've asked you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
A lot, I don't know where my brain is today.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Even though I did sleep quite well last night, I
did not stay at a holiday and express, so I'm
just I don't know. I'm all over the place, and
I'm kind of thrown off by the fact that Dragon
is wearing a Robin's Egg blue you know, Ralph Loreen
polo shirt, Like I suddenly got this new preppy producer.
He's gonna be walking around in docksiders and holding his

(01:26:17):
pinky up. Or I just I'm really discombobulated by that shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Hey, we still am not wearing paints right now, I
get it. But are your calves dirty? No, of course not.
I washed him. All right, Let's do a serious story.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
For a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
This from Politico UK to recognize Palestinian statehood in September
unless Israel backs off in Gaza. So the left wing
prime minister, not far left, but center left Prime Minister
of England.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
His name is Keir Starmer. He's not very good at
his job. He only has his.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Job because the Democrat because the Conservative Party, the Tories,
really blew themselves up in much the way that we
have seen Republicans do on a case in the United
States of America.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Now here's the thing to keep in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
So he's following the President of France, Emmanuel Macrone, who
said something similar several days ago. That they were going
to recognize the Palestinian state at the United Nations. Now,
of course we have a veto at the UN, and
as long as President Trump doesn't want the UN to
recognize the you know, quote unquote Palestine as its own country,
they won't be. But but this is a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Now here's the thing to keep in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
I'm going to tie this into something else that I've
talked about from time to time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
On the show. We talked about immigration a lot. It's
a huge political issue.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
It's a fairly big economic issue as well in the
United States of America, but the politics are even bigger
than the economics on that particular thing. And what I've
said over and over and over again is I would
much rather have America's immigration problem than Europe's immigration problem,
because putting aside the fact that when Biden had the

(01:27:58):
open borders and there were people from all kinds of
countries coming in, most of the time, our immigration problem
has been from people who originate from directly south of
the United States, which is to say, Mexico, Central America,
and to a much lesser degree South America, although it
wasn't a much lesser degree during the Biden years because
we had a lot of people fleeing up from Venezuela
and other stuff like that. But normally it's been Mexico, Guatemala, Hondura,

(01:28:22):
Sel Salvador and so on. And yeah, it's true a
lot of those folks come up with little or no
English and very little skills and all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
That, but that's not my point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Those folks come up here and not talking about criminals
and all the gang members who might come up again.
A much bigger problem when Biden just opened the borders
than it was before Biden. Most of the people who
have come here from those countries come here understanding that
they are not going to get welfare, and they come
here to work. I'm not looking to get into a

(01:28:54):
whole immigration policy debate. I'm telling you they come here
to work, and they're Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Now I'm not Christian, but we are.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
A Judeo Christian nation, and when you grow up in
another Judeo Christian nation or Christian nation or whatever it might.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Be, there is some level of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Underlying cultural continuity between them and us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
You're raised being taught these things.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Maybe they were taught these things in Spanish, maybe they
never even went to Sunday School, and I'm sure none
of them went to Synagogue. But you grow up in
a place where the fundamental values of the nation are
not defined by but I will say are infused with

(01:29:50):
some of these values that come out of the Judeo
Christian tradition. And that's the reason why I would much
rather have our immigration problem than Europe's. Well, that's actually
two reasons. They come to work, and there is enough

(01:30:12):
cultural understanding between let's say, an low skill, uneducated immigrant
from l Salvador and me. There's actually enough cultural understanding
between the two of us that I don't have to
feel like that person is a threat in any way

(01:30:33):
you want to defind threat. Okay, again, I'm not talking
about criminal gang members and so on, just talking about
people coming over to work.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Now, think about europe.

Speaker 7 (01:30:45):
An.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Immense amount of European immigration is from North Africa in
the Middle East, and a huge percentage of the population
of some of these countries is now Muslim.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Not only that, So there's two things to say about that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
They come with no cultural overlap at all with the
underlying Judeo Christian foundations of England, France, Germany anything like that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
There is no understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
There's no common set of beliefs, there's no common set
of morals, there's no common set of anything, even at
the most basic level. Where in Europe, like in the
United States of America, there is. And I'm not just
I'm not talking about some hypothetical concept.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Here separation of church and state.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
I'm not talking about that, talking about the way it
really works. Religion and government are basically separate. And you
do not have the Church imposing you know, Catholic law
or whatever. Evangelical Christians whatever they might call their law
within the church and church have their own laws right.

(01:32:01):
In fact, a good friend of mine canon law in
the Catholic Church called canon law cno in and a
friend of mine who is a devout Catholic and went
to law school just for fun. He's not a lawyer,
but he decided it would be fun to go to
law school and pass the bar, so he did. This
is the kind of guy he is, flies his own airplane.
He's just one of the most brilliant, interesting people I know.

(01:32:25):
Also got certified in canon law, and so when there's
a problem between a Catholic person in the church, he
handles that. I think it's actually very interesting. But he
doesn't think, and the Church doesn't think, that they're supposed
to decide for whatever state they live in what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Their laws should be. And they also don't believe that
the church laws should supersede the state laws or the
federal laws. But in Islam they do Sharia. Islam is
a political system every bit as much as it is
a religion. Judaism is not like that. Christianity is not

(01:33:06):
like that. Even the famous thing from the New Testament,
and the New Testament isn't my book, but the famous
thing from the New Testament render unto God that which
is God's and render under Caesar that which is Caesar's right.
That's the same kind of thing, This explicit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Acknowledgment within the religions that some parts of life are
the province of the secular or the civil government and
not the province of the church.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Islam isn't like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
So now you've got this massive, massive influx of Muslims
into many of these countries, and the particular countries vary
a bit from one European country to another, I mean
the origin countries. For example, Germany has an immense number
of Turkish immigrants. France has an immense number of Moroccan

(01:34:02):
immigrants and Algerian immigrants.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Why because those were French colonies.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Britain has immigrants from other parts, more Middle East and
less North Africa. Now I'm going to type into the
chat GPT machine here what percentage of the UK's population
is Muslim and let's see what the Let's see what
the machine says here. All right, So right now they're

(01:34:32):
saying about about six and a half percent. And in
the United States, I forget the number, I want to say,
it's somewhere around one percent. I'll just type in what
about in the US.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
And also remember folks coming to the United States, even
if they're Muslim, many of them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Yeah, so it's about one percent in the US.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Folks coming to the United States. They know what they're
getting here. Like I said, they're not coming to be
on welfare, and at least many of them are not
coming to try to implement Sharia law. But if you
go around some of these neighborhoods in the suburbs of
Paris and suburbs of some cities in England, especially towards
northern England, you will find areas where a lot of

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those folks believe that they should not have to abide
by the laws of their country or their local area.
They believe that all laws should be dominated by sharia,
by their religion. Also, a lot of the folks who
emigrate to Europe go with the explicit intent to be

(01:35:37):
on welfare, not to work.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
And whose fault is that?

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
That's the fault of those countries for making it so
easy for anybody to just come in and beyond welfare.
They've opened the door, they put out the welcome at
come take our money, and so they are.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
So you've got this terrible situation. I've spent much too
long on this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
You've got this terrible situation in Europe where they have
millions and millions of people now throughout Europe who don't
want to work and share no underlying cultural continuity with
and just want to dominate it all. And so, getting
back to the thing I was talking about, both of

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these countries now, UK and France, they have lots and
lots of Muslim people living there and they're pandering to
them a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Plus they're kind of they're left wing governments.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And so now you've got the UK and France both
saying that they will recognize Palestinian statehood at the UN
in September unless Israel backs off of Gaza.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Now let me just tell you another thing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
There's this picture that made its way like wildfire around
left wing mostly but social media, but also newspapers. New
York Times is the primary culprit. That's also left wing,
of course, and it's showing a woman holding a small,
extremely emaciated baby. This baby, I mean not very very

(01:37:06):
young baby, but I'm guessing twelve to eighteen months old
something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
But this this baby is so emaciated.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
You can see it's spine, you can see its ribs
from the back. It's very it's a very disturbing picture.
And the New York Times and everybody else ran with
this thing as evidence of famine going on in Gaza.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
So what really happened there. There's a lady holding the baby.
It's a legit lady, and it's legitimately her kid. There's
another little boy who's older, maybe five years old something
like that, who's standing next to the mom, and he
looks perfectly healthy, not emaciated.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
He's fine. They cropped him out of the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
And then posted just the one of the emaciated baby
without acknowledging that the emaciated baby has a disease that
makes it so that he can't absorb nutrition, and he'd
be looking like that regardless of It's very sad, but
he'd be looking like that regardless of how much food
he ate. And this is being used all around the

(01:38:14):
world to push people to say that Israel is starving people,
and it is. It's it's beyond a shame, it's it's
a sin. And just one other thing Hamas was and
kind of sort of still is the government of Gaza

(01:38:34):
elected by the people of Gaza.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Now it was you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Know, one election one time and they didn't let him
have another election.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
But that's the government. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
When the Nazis attacked into Poland, Czechoslovakia or westernt France
or any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Should their victims.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Should the United States have gone to feed the people
of Japan, gone to feed the people of Germany who
just attacked us? Should the French people have fed the
people of Germany? The government of Hama, the government.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Of Gaza attacked Israel.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
The people of Gaza are, unfortunately, I guess, suffering for it.
But they elected them, and by the way, they still
support them. I at least half the population of Gaza
would vote for Hamas again given a chance to have
another election.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
So do I want quote unquote civilians to die? No?
Do I care very much?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
No, get rid of Hamas and that and all Hamas
needs to do is free the hostages and return the
bodies of the people who died or who were killed
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
And this thing ends. It's not Israel's fault.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
And these people like Kure Starmer and Emmanuel mcronor are
saying what they're saying are doing the work of Hamas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Hi, Andy, I.

Speaker 9 (01:40:01):
Gotta tip on some amazing cheesecake apparently, really, Yeah, there's
a delightful little Peruvian restaurant in the general area of
Park Meadows Mall, not in the mall area, but in
that general vicinity. It's called Red Lama, and I've been
told I love their food, I love Lovela, but I'm
always too full after dinner to get dessert. Apparently their

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passion fruit cheesecakes his next level. I've been told by
a listener who said, you gotta try the passion But
so the next time I go there, I'm gonna try it,
but since it is Cheesecake Day and honestly the best
cheesecake ever Dave Lower's Cheesecake.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Yeah, did you post the recipe on a If.

Speaker 9 (01:40:38):
You google Dave Lowers Cheesecake, it will take you to
an old blog post where the recipe exists. Mine mine,
Randy can't be bothered to share recipes. I mean, come on,
come on.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
Uh huh. A listener today was talking about key lime
cheesecake made in an Insta pot.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
How do you make cheesecake with an Insta pot.

Speaker 9 (01:40:56):
I don't know the answer to that question, but I
have had key lime cheese cake. I make a key
lime pound cake that is quite delicious.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
It is super good. Well, now you have to and
you have to bring it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
I've been uh, I've been diving into.

Speaker 5 (01:41:11):
The I can't just say that and not bring it
in soon. We got some time on your hands.

Speaker 9 (01:41:15):
I was gonna say, I've got like a whole next
week off where I'm supposed to be recuperating. I'm already bored. Yeah,
I'm not even there yet, and I'm like, oh God,
I don't have vacation and I'm just gonna I already
did this once with the vocal court surgery. I suck
at sitting at home.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Have you already disclosed publicly what you're getting done?

Speaker 9 (01:41:33):
Yes, I've talked about it on my show Tell Me.
Because I'm having hysterectomy on fright.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Are you really all the girly parties invasive things?

Speaker 9 (01:41:44):
Because I am the proud owner of a bunch of
uterine fibroids, which is why I'm having this, and depending
on their size once they get in, it could be
invasive surgery. But we are planning forty much less invasive surgery.
We shall see, though, because I keep asking women that
I know have had hysterectomies, and I know more than
a handful. I'm kind of shocked at how many I do,

(01:42:05):
and they've all like four of them and said, oh yeah,
I was supposed to be mentally and I woke up
and I was, you know, big scar on the belly.
I'm like, well, I got a C section scar Let's
just repurpose that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Wow. Yeah, So that means, unfortunately for me, you might
not be able to walk around and real soon to
be able to make the cake for me, which is
really should be your priority of this.

Speaker 9 (01:42:24):
Feel like I will be able to do that, but
I can drive it to you for at least a week.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
Oh that's okay, No, I can wait. I can wait.
What do you got coming up? I got a good
show coming up right now.

Speaker 9 (01:42:34):
I've got more on the do Better Denver being docks
by a Denver Post story. I am deep in that ross,
I have deepen it. We also have doctor Matthew Willicky,
he's an Earth scientist, to come on and talk about
the EPAS about Face on Endangered finding on carbon dioxide.
This is this single thing that the EPA just did

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is going to have a ripple effect that people are.
It's going to blow your mind how much stuff we
have had forced down our throats because of that finding.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
And then I've got.

Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
Weld County Commissioner Scott James coming on to talk about
the Dignity Act and how this is probably the best
conservative swing for immigration reform we've seen in sometime.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Stick around for Mandy. I'll talk to you tomorrow.