08-06-25 - *FULL SHOW* Deep Sea 'Divestream'; DIA Security; World's Strongest Man

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's jump right in with our very special guest who
has a very long title. Stacey Stegman is DIA Senior
vice president of Communications, Marketing and Customer Experience. We might
call our spokesperson as well, and Stacy's always a great guest.
We got a lot to talk about today. Hi, Stacy,
Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good morning, Ron.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
So I first wanted to book you to talk about
security stuff, and I do want to do that, and
then I also want to talk about a press release
you guys put out yesterday, and I think you're going
to have a press conference later today, So let's try
to get two topics in in about seven minutes.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So there's been a bunch of news and we've covered
it here on KOA regarding new security lines and so on.
I think I don't want you to spend a ton
of time on what we know already, but just to
give us a brief overview of what's changed and then
a brief overview of what we might expect to still
change when it comes to security.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. Well, I think for those who have traveled and
have been through the new way security, that's going to
be very common to them now, it's the same, it's
mirror image, it's exactly what you've experienced then. I think
it's for the people who have been going to the
downstairs security that it's going to be a bit of
a shock for a time period because you're going through

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all new technology and it's different how you go through.
There's bigger bins, they're automatic, it's okay to cut in
front of someone, to go to a new station and
open station. And because these bins are bigger, and because
the technology is better, you don't have to take your
liquids out of your bag, you don't have to take
your laptop off now. TSA says, you don't have to
take your shoes off. So it's a much better experience

(01:40):
just going through general screening, not to mentioned pre check
and all the other premium screening.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So, given what you just said, what are the benefits
of pre check now rather than possibly a shorter line,
But it's not even that shorter because everybody and their
mother is.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Pre check now.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think pre check at our airport now is much
more common to what you're going to experience. It's true
general screening. I think Prefect tends to go faster. You
have more seasoned travelers, people that are used to it right,
so they kind of know how to pack this right.
They go through it quicker pre check. I think at
the other airports with the older equipment, that's where there's
a bigger, bigger difference, bigger gap.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think that probably the single biggest time change is
the shoes.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
But the other stuff you talked about is important too.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Can you elaborate for a second on what you said about,
like cutting in front or what was that?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, dude, think about the old equipment where you had
to stand in a long line and you just go
one after the other. In these lines, there's three different
stations with bins. So if you're behind someone and there's
an open station in front of them, you can we
want you to go up use that open station, so
we can just keep getting people through quicker.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Okay. And so what are the security areas called?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Are they east and west? Are they or east west?
East and west?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
And can the lizard people use both east and western?
They have to use just one side.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, we're building a new one for them so we
won't mix them in with the.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Human That's smart, actually very smart now. The lizard people
have particular energy needs, which is probably why you guys
put out that press release restent last night that I
wanted to talk to you about.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Just fortunate timing to have you on today, and it's not.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Just the lizard people, it could be regular people too,
and I was very fascinated, and I like you to
elaborate a bit on the statement that you guys may
be thinking about a small modular nuclear reactor to power
Deia and other interesting infrastructure stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Can you talk about.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That for us? You know, we're the largest consumer of
electricity in the state of Colorado, right We're Excel's biggest customers. Wow,
that's because they are clearly is a busy, crazy place
beside us with the airlines and all of our tenants.
And so what we're trying to do is really think
ahead for the future on where the best ways to

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meet our energy demands in the future and how do
we do that in the cleanest possible way. And so
Mayor Johnson our CEO Phil Washington are going to talk
a little bit more about that this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, So that that sounds like I'm going to give
you a little answer, but I'm not going to get
ahead of the boss too much?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Was that what that was?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think that's fair. And the boss and the boss's boss, the.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Boss and the boss's boss, right, So that is super interesting.
Do you I know you talked about, you know, the
cleanest possible way right For the record, I don't I
barely care how how clean it is.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I care how cheap it is.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And again I understand you might not get too far ahead,
or you might not even know these answers. But if
you do go down this road of supplying your own
energy with an SMR, for example, do you think that
would be a cost increase or a cost savings for
the airport? And if it is a cost savings, might
that flow through to travelers or to people buying a

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seventy nine dollars hammer or at the airport or.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
That kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, well, we don't know the answers yet. I mean,
there's are things we're going to be exploring, and cost
right is going to be a factor in anything that
we do. I think, you know, the biggest thing is
we know our needs are going to be great. I mean,
if you look at where we are today and then
look at you know, we have new runways that are
going to be coming online, a whole new expansion of

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our concourse Newgate, a consolidated rental car facility with a
lot of needs that are going to be coming up
in the future. And so as we've been talking about
that is how are we going to do this so
our airport continues to thrive well into the future for
our community, and so a lot of things to explore.
But but look, I mean, it's not it's not a surprise.

(05:45):
The airport has had a big goal of trying to
do sustainable things in the past. You know, you've seen
our solar out at the airport that there might be
one other airport that has large solar but we have
probably the largest solar arrays of any airport that we
know of. There's you know, we do composts, and we

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do all of these things to try to do the
right thing and to be as green as possible and
to reduce our carbon emissions. But we know, you know,
we're going to have to do more in the future.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And again this is my own personal bias coming through, right.
So you're talking about all these things with the solar
and the green and the whatever, and I don't care
at all about any of that.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I really really don't.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Now, I don't want everything dirty, right, if you can
make something cleaner for the same price or darn close
to the same price, and then that's okay with me.
But how do you guys balance you know these I'll
call them, you know green goals versus versus cost versus
space usage is another thing, because solar uses a lot
of space.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
How do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, the costing, let's talk about that. So for us,
in particular in Denver, cost is everything for our airlines, right.
Airlines really want to operate at the places that are
most cost efficient for them, and so we consider that
in every single investment we do. Because the way our

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structures work, the airlines pay for a lot of the
improvements at the airport. So we have to be very
conscious of what those fees are that we charge our airports.
If we keep competitive low rates for our airlines, then
they in turn want to operate expand at Denver ad
flights and we're doing really great with that, right. That's
why we have three major airline carriers hubbing out of

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Denver front of your Southwest and United big ones. You
don't see that always you know, look at Atlanta for example,
that's primarily delta, So we do that. That's number one
for us. So first of all that we balance that
with being a good neighbor and all these other things
that we want to do to make the right decisions.
So it's important. But yes, we wouldn't have the number

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of flights we have if it wasn't for how we
manage our finances and keep those costs low.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
All right, last quick thing, going going back to the
not just the nuclear power but all the infrastructure kind
of stuff that the boss and the boss's boss are
going to talk about today. And this is another thing
you probably don't really have the answers to, but give
me a rough sense of the kind of time frame
that you're looking to get involved with these projects, whether
it's new power lines, new whatever infrastructure, new power generation

(08:20):
or are we looking at three years, five years, twenty
five years, what is it?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I think you know, we're many years out. This
isn't anything that would happen in the next couple of years.
We really have to learn more about what's out there
because a lot of the technologies are fairly new, right,
have a lot of proven stuff. So as the technology
evolves and as we learn more, then we can kind
of figure out a plan for the future. But we're

(08:45):
we're always.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Out Stacey Segment, Yes, go ahead and finish your thoughts sooner.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, not twenty five years. Sooner than that for sure,
but it's not going to happen in the next couple.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Stacy Segment is Diia's senior VP of Communications, Marketing, Customer
Experiences and Liaisons with the Lizard People. Thank you as always, Stacy.
Great to have you on the show. Great information, and
I look forward to hearing more about your press conference today.
All right, we'll take a quick break and we'll be

(09:15):
right back on Kowa. The airport is adding another concourse
and another something, and I wonder if that's just for.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
The lizard people. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I didn't know that there were enough lizard people to
justify a whole concourse.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So that might have been breaking news right there. Maybe
I don't know. Let's do some other nerdy.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Stuff And again thanks to Stacy Stegman for making time
for us, And let me just share a couple of
stories with your first little good news. So in the
Trump administration and their economics team, Trump has a lot
of interesting people around him, and most of them, I'm
not going to go into a lot of detail, but
most of them I just don't think are very good,

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and I don't like him very much. The one guy
who I think provides some real adult supervision there in
the Trump economic team is Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, and
I get the sense that Besson knows that a lot
of stuff that Trump wants to do is probably not.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
A very good idea.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
But to be fair to bessent't when you're in that job,
you work for the president. Everybody who works in the
executive branch the military, they work for the president. And
I do want to be really clear about about one
particular thing here, and that is, if you work for
the president, your job is to say yes sir and

(10:36):
carry out your orders unless you truly believe that the
order you were given was illegal.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Not a bad idea. That's a different thing.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
If it's a bad idea, you can you can resign.
You can say I just i'm so against that, I'm
not going to do it and I'm gonna leave. And
that's fine. But you really can't refuse to carry out
in order, nor should you, right and again, I say
this repeatedly. I would say it even with Biden's people,
with Biden's stupid orders. Now, I do think Biden and

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sometimes Trump is well, depending on the issue, they will
give orders that I think are probably illegal, But I
also think the type and level of illegality are maybe
not so obvious that just an ordinary employee is one
who's supposed to determine that.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
They're not giving orders like go out and murder somebody,
all right, So it's not like that. So anyway, Bessant,
I'm sure knows that a lot of the stuff that
Trump wants to do isn't very good. Now, also, I
want to say, a lot of the stuff that Trump
wants to.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Do is very good.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
There's a lot of Trump's economic policies that are the
best we've seen in a long time. Right, So I'm
not down on everything. I'm down on a few things.
So it's okay.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And bessent't.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is the smartest of the bunch and understands economics the
best of the bunch. And I think what he's doing
I don't know him, but I suspect what he's doing
is in private, he's saying to Donald Trump, you know, please, sir,
tone it down on this thing.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And sometimes Trump listens, and sometimes he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Trump is his own man, you know, as much or
more than any president in recent memory.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
But I like having Bessent there.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think bestin gives the markets, businesses some at least
slight sense of stability. And that's why I was very
glad to hear the news that yesterday President Trump said
that he asked Scott Bessant about whether Bessant would have
interest in becoming the next chair of the Federal Reserve,

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and Besson said no. Trump said, and I'm quoting Trump now,
he wants to stay where he is. I asked him
last night, is this something you want? And he said, nope,
I want to stay where I am. I want to
work with you. And Trump said, this was on CNBC yesterday.
He said he likes being Treasury secretary. He's doing a
really good job. And then Trump went on and talked

(13:02):
about trade and stuff. But that's not relevant to my point.
My point is I'm really happy that Scott Besent is
going to State Treasury secretary. I think in this administration
he's the right.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Guy for the job. One other very quick thing, I
want to mention here.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yesterday, the Department of Health and Human Services under Robert F.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Kennedy Junior, announced.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
That HHS is going to cancel five hundred million dollars
in federal funding for mRNA vaccines that are being developed
against respiratory viruses like RSV and the flu, and of
course there was one or two mRNA vaccines for COVID
nineteen as well. According to BBC, this is going to

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impact twenty two projects being led by major pharma companies,
including Pfizer and Maderna.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
And what I think is interesting about this is that.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I was doing some research on the efficacy and safety
of mRNA vaccines because there are some out there for
flu and for RSV, and it looks like they are
as effective or slightly more effective, but only slightly than
regular vaccines. And it looks like they are as safe,

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but sometimes with slightly higher.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Side effects.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So it seems to me like these are legit drugs
that are still being worked on. But RFK Junior as
long hated them. RFK Junior, just to be very clear,
as a guy who is not based in science and
never has been, and doesn't care about science, it's all
talking points all the time. But the other side of
that is, yeah, it's five hundred and something million dollars

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a lot of money, but nobody's saying they can't still
do the research. They just are not going to get
the federal money to go do the research. So if
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Speaker 1 (16:09):
All right, a ton of stuff I still want to
do with you today. You know what, I just saw
this headline, so I was just updated like ten minutes
ago from CNBC. So let me share this with you
and just nerd out a little bit on some foreign
policy kind of stuff. So President Trump took a while,
but eventually came around to the idea that in the

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Russia Ukraine War, that Russia is the bad guy and
that Russia doesn't want to end the war. So he
finally figured that out, and he's trying to figure out
now how to pressure Russia. And he thinks that the
primary way to pressure Russia would be financially.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And let me just say, if it were possible to really.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Pressure Russia financially a lot, then that would be a
good plan.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's not a bad idea. I have some.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Skepticism that what he thinks will work to pressure Russia
financially will actually work. And also I have some skepticism
that doing about whether doing that might not have negative
consequences for the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
So let me just go through a couple of those
things quickly.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So, India is a very key geostrategic ally based on
where they are in the world, the number of people
in that country, the fact that India could turn in
not not right away, not tomorrow, but it could turn
into the next China. After all, India's population is a
little bit more than.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
China's right now and growing.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
China's population is collapsing, and by the end of this
century it's somewhat likely that China will have half as
many people as it has now. I know that number
sounds crazy, but that's probably where it's going now. It'll
probably still have more people than the US, and it'll
still be an economic powerhouse. But India has so many people,
so many people who speak English.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
They got a lot of smart people there.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
India has a lot of upside and of course it's
in a very important part of the world, and right now,
India has a leader named Narendra Modi, who is I
don't want to overstate it by calling him India's Trump.
Is a little more complicated than that. He is something
of a Hindu nationalist. There are more religious issues in

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India than there are in the United States directly involved
in the politics. But he's very much of a nationalist,
proud guy, and I've been a little bit skeptical that.
And Trump and he get along pretty well. Trump says
he gets along well with everybody. But I think these
guys actually do understand each other pretty well. And I

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thought President Trump would be pretty reticent to impose significant
tariffs on India, but he hasn't been, and he previously
imposed twenty five percent tariffs on Indian stuff coming into
the United States. I don't know that we buy a
ton of stuff from in What we buy is probably
mostly textiles. I'm not sure what else they export to US.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
In large quantities. I don't know. And they're a fairly
poor country still, so.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
You wouldn't expect them to buy a ton of stuff
from US. But it is true that they do have
trade barriers that would block things like American cars to
a certain degree, and Trump's trying to fix all that up. Anyway,
back to the Russia thing. So the biggest buyers of
Russian oil, we believe, are China and India, and that's

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because Russian oil sells at a discount because of the
pressure from the United States on countries to not buy
Russian oil. Now it's not a massive discount, and it's
probably actually much less of a discount than it used
to be, but it's somewhat of a discount. And when
you're a country as big as India and as poor
as India, you're going to want to get your energy

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as cheap as you possibly can. Who wouldn't, right, if
you are, you know, rich European countries, you have not
like you want to spend more, but you've got some
luxury to be willing to spend a little bit more
for your energy than the otherwise might. Now Europe has
been much worse than that for a long time because
they've been putting in all this stupid solar and wind

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stuff that requires massive, massive expense to not only to
build the stuff, but then to operate the whole electrical
grid because they spend all that.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Money on that stuff. But that stuff can't provide.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
All the energy, so they have to keep running other things,
and then they close their nuclear plants. And it was like,
if you were to try to pick the dumbest energy
possible energy policy imaginable for an industrialized country, you would
do what Germany did.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Anyway, Trump has.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now announced another twenty five percent tariff on India as
a punishment for buying Russian oil. Trump said in an
executive order, I find that the Government of India is
currently directly or indirectly importing Russian Federation oil. Accordingly, and
as consistent with applicable law, articles of India imported into

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the customs territory of the United States shall be subjected
to an additional.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I donna say, tariff of twenty five percent.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
The new tariffs are set to go into effect in
three weeks, and that would make the new tariff rate
on India one of the highest that we have on
any country.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now I get it, okay.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I get the idea that you want to try to
punish Russia by taking away the customers for the product
that funds most of their government and their war machine.
I fully get it. I just don't think it's gonna work,
you know, and energy is such a big thing. If
you're a country like India, you care a lot about

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buying your energy cheap. I don't know that you sell
enough to the United States of America to really feel
like you're gonna cave into Trump based on any level
of tariff. But here's the other thing that I wanted
to mention that I think is a more subtle conversation,
and I don't know the answer to it.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
But think about this for a second.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
If India could be convinced not to buy Russian oil,
then it is possible, yes, that the price of Russian
oil would go down, or that Russia would have some
oil that goes unsold. Maybe if other people don't jump
in to buy it, even if Russia had to offer

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a bigger discount, maybe they just couldn't find buyers because
so many other countries wouldn't want to get on the
wrong side of the US. You'd have to see how
that all plays out. But here's the key thing. India
needs a lot of energy, right They got one point
something billion people, So what if they stopped buying Russian oil,

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then they would have to buy oil somewhere else, presumably
from the Middle East, from the US wherever else oil
is produced a little bit in South America, right, Venezuela
doesn't produce what it used to do. Guyana is getting
on getting some production going. That'll be big one day,
but not yet. But what it means is India would
then become part of the demand in the rest of

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global oil, which would push oil prices up in the
rest of the world, which would put push energy prices
up everywhere else, including in the United States. And then
you would find that the price of a gallon gas
is gonna go up, and the price of every you know,
the price of energy affects the price of everything. So again,

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I'm not gonna probably go further on this, but I
just wanted to throw that out there to you as
a thought experiment so that you understand that what we're
dealing with here is not like, all right, I'm gonna
do a bad analogy.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
This is not like two.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Pool balls on a billiard's table where you hit one
at the other one and it hits the other one,
and with pretty basic math you can kind of figure
out what's gonna go where.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's not like that.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
This is like, there's there's six balls on the table
and you fling one ball into the rest, and it
is almost entirely impossible to predict after the very first moment.
Once you get past the very first moment, it is
impossible to predict where they're going to go next, how
they're going to bump into each other next, and what's

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going to happen. And that's what I think is being
missed here. And I think President Trump overestimates his ability
to influence India, and I think President Trump over in
overestimates his.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Ability to hurt Russia. And I think the right.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Answer is really what Duomberg has said all along, which
is the right policy is for the United States and
the rest of the world to do everything possible to
get the price of oil down so low that Russia
is barely making enough money to survive and not enough
money to power the war.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
All right, moving on to the next thing.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Interesting story in the New York Post yesterday, and this
is from Charlie gasper you know, a friend of the show.
He says, JP Morgan and Bank of America de banked
Donald Trump under pressure from the Biden administration over January sixth,
according to Gasparino's sources. Now, this seems like still a

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little bit of early reporting, but as I share a
little bit more of this with you as we go
along here, it seems like Trump has seen the story
and believes it. Or maybe he knew about it already
but didn't know why. I don't know, but I'll get
to that in a second. But here's what Charlie says.
JP Morgan and Bank of America de banked President Trump
for his role in the January sixth Capitol Hill melee,

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following pressure from the Biden administration's banking regulators and the
Federal Reserve. People with direct knowledge of the matter tell
the Post. The exact reason for Trump and his tens
of millions of dollars in holdings being kicked off the
JP Morgan banking platform and then denied access to Bank
of America's services has yet to be reported, but sources

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at the banks, the well two biggest banks in the
United States based on assets, confirmed that the case stemmed
from the controversy surrounding Trump's actions that day and threats
from President Joe Biden's bank regulators that banking the former
president's money put them in danger of falling a foul
of rules that prohibit financial institutions from doing business with

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individuals and companies that present a reputational risk. Now, isn't
that something put aside for a moment. We'll come back
to it, I promise, but put aside for a moment.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Trump, and just go back to that last sentence.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Regulators banking regulators prohibiting banks from doing businesses with individuals
and companies that present a reputational risk. Shouldn't it be
up to the bank to decide who presents a reputational risk?

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Shouldn't it be up to any company?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Now, this is not the same thing as saying we're
gonna We're gonna provide banking services for a terrorist. That's
not a reputational risk. Okay, that's a criminal risk. That
is aiding and abetting criminality. That's different. That's different. But
what if any company wants to hire I don't know,
a musician who might say something bad, a radio talk

(27:21):
show host who might say something bad. Look, I I
might be a reputational risk for iHeart they think I'm
not because I'm on the air, and I've been on
the air for ten years, so so far, I haven't
proven to be a reputational risk. But shouldn't that decision
as to whether to have me on the air based
on that particular risk be iheart's decision, rather than being,

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for example, the FCC's decision or some bureaucrat or some
regulator somewhere.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
To me, that's a very strange thing.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Back to Charlie Gasperino, people at the banks tell the
Post that Biden's banking cops at the Office of the
Comptroller of the car Creancy, the FDIC and the FAD
often used the nebulous nature of the edicts.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, I would say it is to go.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Beyond de banking, money launderers and drug kingpins. They were
prepared to include people who had heterodox that means not
the same as everybody else, political and business ties. That
often included conservatives and anyone who participated in the January
sixth protests. Trump, of course survived at all, and is

(28:27):
now in his second presidential term.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
He's vowing to end d banking. His regulators have.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Stopped enforcing the reputational risk clause, and he plans an
executive order on the matter as well.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
He should. That's nonsense. That's nonsense. And again I say.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
This all the time, and I feel like I've said
it five times today already. But so many times when
an issue comes up that involves Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
People only decide.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Their view on the issue based on their view of Trump,
whether they like him or don't, or whether they think
the particular issue will help him or not. That's the
wrong way to do this. You got to take his
name out of it, just like you'd have to take
Biden's name out of it. You got to look at
what's right and wrong. What's the right way for government
to operate. I don't like what Donald Trump did on
January sixth, I think he made a huge mistake. Does

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that mean that banks should refuse to bank him?

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Actually there's two answers to that. Does that mean that
banks should refuse to do his business? It means that
banks should have, okay, separate from Trump. Banks should have
the ability to deny doing business with someone who they
think doing business with will hurt them, but not not

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because they think the hurt to them.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Is going to come from a government.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Regulator who says, we don't want you doing business with
that conservative, or that gun store, or even that sex worker.
So to the Wall Street Journal, now White House preps
order to punish banks that discriminate against conservatives. Sub had
President expected to sign executive order as soon as this

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week that targets d banking of businesses, including crypto companies.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
A view of a draft of the executive order, which
the Journal has seen, but I don't know who else
has seen.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
It directs bank regulators to investigate whether any financial institutions
might have violated the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, antitrust laws,
or consumer financial protection laws. Violators could be subject to
monetary penalties, consent decrees, or other disciplinary measures, according to
the draft.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
So now this puts.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Banks in an interesting position, especially putting him back in
the timeframe of when the Biden administration was having their
regulators trying to if this stuff is true, and I
suspect it is trying to get the banks to not
do business with Trump or with anybody who was involved
in January sixth and all that. Now, think about this,

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So on the one side, you have the regulators saying, well.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
We have a rule. Okay, we have a.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Rule that, and it's not a very clear rule, but
we have a rule. And then on the other side, right,
you've got a law. And I don't know what all
these laws are, but you can imagine just based on
the name, what the Equal Credit Opportunity Act might be about,
or antitrust laws or consumer financial protection laws. And if
I were a bank, I'd be way more scared of
a law than a rule. And now you've got the

(31:36):
regulators though, with their rules, and these are people who
are coming to your bank every day telling you what
to do. We've got these people telling you, hey, to
comply with our rule. You probably need to violate that law,
but you better go do it. That is a bad situation,
and that is a situation that governments should never put
business in. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that it happened.

(31:57):
But Trump says the bank's discriminated against Tim. A JP
Morgan spokesperson said the bank doesn't close accounts for political reasons,
but they agreed with Trump that regulatory change is needed.
I'm sure they do all right. Moving on, what's the
next thing I want to share with you. There's still
a bunch of weirdness going on with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff,

(32:20):
and in particular with Gallainne Maxwell, who is the woman who
went to recruit underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein to have
sex with and maybe share with some friends.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
We're not too sure about all that.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
But she met with Todd Blanche, who's the Deputy Attorney General,
who's actually Trump's former personal attorney, and they met for
nine hours.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
And apparently, by the way, this is a little bit unusual.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Apparently that interview was recorded, so it's unclear whether that
will be released at some point.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Would be interesting if it were released. Also, apparently she
was moved to some other nicer prison.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Trump was asked about it. He said it happens all
the time, and he didn't know about it. I don't
think it really happens all the time, especially with someone
with a sex offense conviction. But in any case, that's
just stuff around around the edges in any case.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
From ABC News.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
During her nine hours talking with Todd Blanch last month,
Kallaane Maxwell said nothing that would be harmful to President
Donald Trump, telling Blanche that Trump had never done anything
in her presence that would have caused concern, according to
sources familiar with what Maxwell said. The Trump administration, meanwhile,

(33:36):
is considering publicly releasing the transcripts from the interview, according
to multiple sources familiar with internal discussions there is also,
as I mentioned in audio recording, it's not clear whether
they would release any of that. They're actually talking about
potentially releasing printed transcripts, maybe as soon as this week.

(33:57):
It's hard for me to tell, because I'm not watching
MAGA people that closely on social media.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Whether they're simmering down a little bit about this.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I can imagine this going one of two different ways.
One it could just simmer down because they start to
get bored and they start thinking about other things.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
The other side of.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
The coin, though, is they might get more riled up,
insisting that whatever information out is out there get released
as they come to believe even more as I have
believed for quite a long time, that there is almost
certainly nothing incriminating against Donald Trump from the Epstein thing.
I have never thought that Trump had a relationship with

(34:41):
Epstein other than being like two very rich playboys in
New York hanging out and doing the thing that people
like that would do. I've never heard an indication that
Trump did anything like with an illegally underaged girl any
never went to the Islands, never any of that stuff.
And I I don't know, but I don't think Trump

(35:02):
has risked from this story.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I could be wrong. I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But for his base, if they think he has no
risk with this story, they might keep pushing to get
the information out there.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
So we'll just have to see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
In any case, it would be rather interesting for a
lot of people, at least if transcripts of the Galaine
Maxwell interview come out, and of course then the question
would be can you trust anything? She says listener Michael
who texted me in to note this.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
And I should have thought of.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It before because I'm a customer, but I was when
we were talking about tariffs on India, and I said,
I'm trying to think of big categories where they sell
us a lot, and I couldn't think of anything. There
is an enormous category, and that is generic drugs. Something
close to half of the generic medications used in the

(35:48):
United States of America are made in India. And that's
a very, very very big deal. And imagine you've got
some brand name version of a drug that might cost
you one hundred dollars a month, and you can buy
the generic version that's made in India for twenty dollars
a month. And with Trump adding tariffs now to India.

(36:09):
Unless he excludes that stuff, you're gonna see costs of
lots and lots and lots of medicines go up a lot,
so that'll show up.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And hire bills when you go to.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
The pharmacist, higher health insurance, hire hospital bills, hire everything.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
So that is a huge area they do.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Also, India also does supply a decent amount of chemicals
to the United States of America. But I think what's
important to understand, and it's true of all the tariff's stuff, okay,
is that Trump always thinks about it, and a lot
of people think about it, all right, We're gonna put
tariffs on India, on Indian goods coming in the US,
and you think about it. He thinks about it as
if that's a form of punishment.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
On India, and in a way it is.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
But who's the real victim, right, who's the real Let's
say you can buy a medicine that's gonna cost you
one hundred dollars, or you can buy a medicine that
would cost you twenty dollars. But now with Trump's tariffs,
it's gonna cost you thirty dollars, right, So are you

(37:15):
gonna buy the Indian medicine. You probably still buy it.
And so the Indian company isn't losing very much. Maybe
they absorb a little bit in the price and have
a somewhat smaller profit margin. But if your choice goes,
you know, between one hundred and twenty, and it goes
one hundred to thirty, probably still going to buy that thing.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
So in that specific example, the loser, the primary loser,
is you, not India. And so I just want to
be careful with that because and thank you to Michael
for texting or emailing me that, because.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
That is clearly a huge area where India supplies the
United States.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
All Right, here's the other thing I want to mention.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I'm going to leave the primary news reporting on this
announcement from Governor Polis and they're still in a press conference,
and I see Mark Farandino, who was on my show
with the governor just last week.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
They're they're talking about all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
The special session that is going to start in a
couple of weeks, two weeks from tomorrow, I guess, And
I just want to make a couple quick comments on this.
So the state is going to be about a billion
dollar short of where they were the governor said some
interesting things that I think probably will not get as

(38:31):
much attention as they should when I had him and
Mark Farandino on the show, and actually, it is interesting.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I asked to have Mark Farandino.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
On the show, and they asked me if the governor
could be on at the same time, and of course
I said yes, And they both made an interesting point,
which is that most of the stuff that they're dealing
with right now is like one hundred billion dollars shortfall
next year, the shortfall in the years after that, excluding
coming changes from Medicaid, which are going to take some

(39:01):
years to phase in.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
So excluding Medicaid, the shortfall.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Next year, not this coming budget year, but the one
after and maybe the one after that will actually be smaller.
The problem that they are dealing with now is a
bigger problem than the problem will be the year after
again excluding Medicaid. Now, the Medicaid cuts are coming, and
they're gonna be very big numbers as well.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
But here's what I want to say.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And the governor also announced a hiring freeze.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Which is good.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Our state government has expanded so much more on a
percentage basis in terms of number of employees and cost
than the population of.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
The state has. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Like the biggest growth industry in Colorado has been government
and it's terrible. This is what happens when you get
one party rule of a state. And I'm so glad
they're going to have a hiring freeze. They should probably
have a little bit of a firing part already as well,
or at least to be a little bit less cynical
about it. You know, don't be unhappy when people retire

(40:08):
and leave and then you don't fill those jobs again.
So it's not just that the workforce isn't getting bigger.
It should get smaller as people retire, go do you know,
go leave to get a job somewhere else, and then
you don't fill them. And the cost of government should
slowly come down even with a hiring freeze. And that's awesome.
And you know what, if the federal government is going

(40:30):
to send Colorado a billion dollars less for this coming
fiscal year, and remember other states are going to have
the same issue, I mean they might might not have overspent,
they might have been much less reckless. Colorado Democrats have
been exceedingly reckless in their spending, exceedingly reckless right, trying
to turn us into California.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
But so we're just one.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Of fifty states, kind of a medium small state really,
And if they are sending us a billion dollars less
and we need to cut a billion dollars of spending,
my reaction to that is, hallelujah, bring on another billion.
I want our state government smaller. I don't want it

(41:13):
doing so much stuff. I don't want them buying everybody's votes.
But most importantly, because states can vote how they want,
and if the people of Colorado want to vote to
be as stupid as we've been lately, they got the
right to do it. But what is really really wrong
is the federal government funding it.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
All.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
This stuff is wildly unconstitutional. We got out of control
in this country basically back at the time of FDR.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
We've never gotten back in control.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
And this billion dollars that they're not going to send
now is a billion dollars that your children and mine
and theirs we're gonna have to pay back at some point.
And when I you know again, when I hear, oh,
they're going to cut a billion dollars, my reaction is
that's a good dart, Because I said earlier today that
I am following the show sheet more or less.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
So let's do along that last what We'll see how
long that last? Yeah, we'll see how long it lasts.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
So first of all, I would like to ask you
something that I ask you from time to time, and
that is to do me the favor or the honor
of going to Rosskominski dot substack dot com and subscribe there.
It's absolutely free to subscribe to my substack. I try
to write a couple of times a week, and it's free,
and it's worth a little bit more than that. So

(42:29):
it's value for you cause it's it's what why do
you look so quizzical?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Well?

Speaker 5 (42:34):
I just realized what day it was, and I was
about to ask you if you put my trash out today?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I've been busy with this hair thing and I was
hoping you would handle it yourself.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Just did missus Redbeard? Maybe remember? I doubt it. She
has no clue as to what day?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Track?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
How was?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
How was your mom's birthday? It was good? Lots of fun.
Did you go out? Did you eat in? What did
you do to her favorite? Tell you restaurant? And are
you gonna tell us.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
The name in.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Restaurant I corrupt.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Is a caraba is Italian grill or something or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
All right, awesome, I just go where I'm told. Yeah,
I understand pasta understand all right, So let let's do
this for a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So if you go to Rosskominski dot substack dot com
right now, you'll see a note that I posted about.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Kind of a big picture thing. Is big picture and
small picture at the same time.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And I'm gonna try try to do both with you
here for just three or four minutes. And this is
on the concept of an election. And I'm gonna I'm
not gonna do this in a particular order.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
I guess I never really do.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm kind of all over the place, but just I'm
gonna spout out a few things first. Depending on where
you get your political news and information, you will be
bombarded with.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
A certain kind of bias most of the time.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
If you get your news from News Nation, you're gonna
be pretty even handed. If you get your news from Fox,
you'll get much more of a conservative pro Trump view.
If you get your news from almost anywhere else of
the kind of major networks, you're gonna get a left
wing view. And what happens when you take in those
views is it will cause you to think that everybody

(44:11):
else is only thinking about one person, like and it
could be Trump, but it could have been Biden or whatever.
And people tend to forget. And this is part of,
you know, one of Ross's maxims of politics, that you
have to remember what the word election means. And what
I mean by that is outside of the political definition

(44:32):
of the word election, What does.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
It mean to make an election? What does it mean
to elect?

Speaker 1 (44:37):
And again not the political but rather what it means
is you have a choice to make.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You've got two.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Options or three out You've got you've got options, and
you elect one of them. And therefore we tend to
think of in politics, we tend to think of an election.
We kind of forget that part and we just think
about who's the winner, but we forget the fact that
we get to winner by making the choice. And this
is really important because especially in the mainstream quote unquote

(45:07):
mainstream formerly mainstream, they're not really mainstream anymore, but they're
still large media. There's just so much constant bashing of
Donald Trump that you might think that everybody hates Trump.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
And that everybody hates Republicans and.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Everybody, But when you look at the actual data right now,
and keep in mind that an election is a choice. First,
Trump's numbers aren't great, but they're better than Trump's numbers
were in his first term. Republican numbers aren't great, but
they're much much better than Democrats. In fact, there's a headline.

(45:46):
This story came out. It's probably a week and a
half ago now, and I didn't get to it, but
the Wall Street Journal did a poll, and I think
Pew Research also did a poll, and these are both
great polling organizations. The journal headline, Democrats get lowest rating
from in thirty five years. Republicans preferred on most issues
that decide elections, despite unease with Trump over the economy, tariffs,

(46:09):
and foreign policy.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
And this is just what I want you to keep
in mind.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
And I've written a lot about this today on my substack,
Rosskaminsky dot substack dot com.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
But it's just a thing I want to remind you about.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I know we're still more than a year away from
the midterm elections, but we're gonna get more and more
talk as we start drifting closer. And I'm going to
try to remind myself and you as we go through
this all, just remember that an election means making a choice,
and if you're only focused on one side in an election,

(46:42):
you're forgetting. You're gonna miss so much of the dynamics.
One other quick thing, an Associated Press story from an
AP poll that came out just a couple of days ago.
Many Democrats see their own political party as weak or ineffective.
Respondents were asked to share the first word that came

(47:03):
to mind when they thought of Republican and Democratic parties.
Answers were then sorted into categories. Overall, US adults held
a dim view of both parties, with about four and
ten using negative attributes, including words like dishonest or stupid.
But Democrats. The biggest word used by Democrats about their

(47:23):
own party is weak. Second is ineffective, although they actually
know I should take a boat first. Is week second
but way behind generally good and for the people, and
then ineffective and generally bad.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
So just remember, you.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Can hear all the bad stuff you want about Trump
and Republicans, but voters, normal people are thinking about it
as a choice, and they are really down on Democrats too.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Man, can you.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
The Dude warren Zebon, The dude beat a heroin addiction
and then died of cancer. Oh man, that guy is
just you know. I every once in a while the
topic comes up of who would you like to see
in concert?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Who you never saw?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
And I never thought of him before, but for sure
he would be on the list.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Arren Zevon just his most famous song.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Obviously We're Wolves of London, right, but that's a great one.
And Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner is another great one too.
All right, So Dragon played that lawyer's guns and money
because he's paying attention to the show sheet and trying
to make sure that I pay attention to the show
sheet today lest he fire me. And here is the

(48:44):
headline from the Colorado Sun. This is actually some rather
useful information. Many new Colorado laws take effect today. Here
are some you should know about. So again, thank you
to the Colorado for this information. I'm just going to
go through some of it, and some of these are good,
some of these are bad, and some of these are
kind of irrelevant. But I'll just go through some of

(49:06):
them quickly. You know, most of us listening right now
are in Colorado, so house Bill ten ten goes into
effect now, and it is about price gouging. Now, whenever
you see the government getting involved in price gouging, you
know that there's something bad is about to happen, something
with something with good intentions that will certainly have negative,

(49:30):
unintended consequences. So the way Colorado's Sun describes it is,
whenever the governor declares a disaster emergency, the law makes
it illegal for companies to increase the price of an
item by more than ten percent.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Beyond what it cost before.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
They also won't be able to sell a new item
at a significantly higher price than other vendors. So let
me just say, this is freaking stupid, really, and I understand. Look,
I understand why the politicians will say it. I understand
why Democrats will go along with it. I understand why.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Some of the public who doesn't think about it very.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Much will go along with it. But this is really dumb.
Let me give you an example.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Let's say that.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
There's an emergency that prevents deliveries of bottled water and
does some damage to the local water system. So people
need bottled water, and you know, in this kind of
extreme emergency.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Just go with me on the hypothetical. Okay, in this
kind of.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Extreme emergency, you're not really worried about taking a bath.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
You're not really worried about taking a shower.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
All you're worried about is not dying, right, What you're
worried about is having clean water to drink and what
other you know, maybe there's some kind of food, like
you got a you've got an infant. You've got an infant,
and you need to make baby formula, so you need
clean water for the formula, that kind of thing. So
now imagine you've got stores that just have whatever amount

(51:07):
of water they have in stock right now, and they're
not gonna be getting more for a while because the
roads are washed out, and they normally sell a twenty
four pack of water for four bucks.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
I'm just making up numbers.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Now, what happens if the maximum MA can raise the
price is ten percent. I mean, some places might not
even raise the prices at all, but you probably what
will happen is when people know this is common, they'll
come try to buy the stuff up in advance. If
it's already a disaster declaration. And actually, I do believe

(51:39):
governors can announce a disaster declaration in advance. I think
I could be wrong about that. But let's say people
want to come buy all the water. What really should
happen is that store it not just should be allowed to,

(52:02):
but should be encouraged to double or triple or quadruple
the price of the water, in addition to limiting how
many you can buy. And the limiting part is really important,
because if you don't limit it and you don't raise
the price, then somebody's gonna come in and buy all
the water for four dollars for a twenty four pack.

(52:27):
Let's say it's four dollars and eighty cents, so it's
twenty cents a bottle. We make the math easy. They're
gonna go buy them all, and then they're gonna go
set up a little stand outside the supermarket or somewhere
else to sell it for two dollars a bottle and
make eight times their money.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
And there's no upside there. There's just friction in the economy.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
It would be much better controlled if the supermarket could
do it, or anybody else. And when you don't allow
companies to raise the price, you cause too much demand
from people who don't really need it and have not
enough supply. For the people who really do need it.

(53:13):
So I think this very stupid law. Here's the other thing.
If you and put aside supermarkets for a minute, that's
a very regulated business in these very.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Fixed kind of supply chains and so on. But what
if you could get more water? But it would take
a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You need somebody with a unimog to drive through and
bring you these palettes and pallettes of water. And you
know water that the store normally buys for fifteen cents
and sells for twenty cents. They could get it right now.
They could get it right now using extraordinary methods. But
they could get some delivered for the community. But it
would cost the store seventy five cents a bottle just

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to buy it. Okay, their cost would be some five
cents a bottle because they'd have to transport it from
some other state on these crazy vehicles that can get
across the roads. And then they could go sell it
in the store for a dollar or a dollar fifty
or whatever. But they're not allowed to do it. It
doesn't matter how much under this law. It doesn't matter
how much they cost it. So the other thing that

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this does is it eliminates the incentive or ability for
companies that might be selling stuff that people want to
go get the stuff in a hurry, because getting the
stuff in a hurry will cost more, and they won't
be able to sell it for more. They'd have to
take a loss. So this is house built ten ten.
It takes effect today.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
And it's stupid. This one is less stupid.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Sendate bill one for five says that companies that operate
in Colorado that get you to into a subscription or
a contract or a service that renews automatically, right think
Netflix or Amazon Prime or something like that, they have

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to have an easy way for you to be able
to cancel online if you signed up online. Right. There
are so many companies out there that do this thing
where you can sign up online. But if you want
to cancel, if to call them, and then they make
you jump through this impossible phone tree, and they their
goal is to make it so difficult for you to
cancel that you give up and keep the subscription. According

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to the Colorado Sun, I haven't read this bill. I
think I read the bill a long time ago, but
I haven't read it lately. But even if you signed
up another way like you signed up in person or
you signed up over the phone, they still have to
offer a clear way to end your contract. They can
offer you incentives like a discount or something else to
keep the contract, but.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Only if they also include a direct.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Link to cancel the contract. All right, here's another one,
lab grown meat. We talked about this from time to
time on the show. Don't care much one way or
another about lab grown meat. I guess I would try
it if or if i'm and I definitely would try
it if it were good enough. If all I care
about how does it taste and how much does it cost.
If I like how it tastes and the price is right,

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I'm okay with lab grown meat whatever. But there are
some people, and especially ranchers people who grow what I
will call real meat, I suppose, are a little concerned
about branding of this stuff, much in the way that
there was some outcry from the dairy industry about things

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called like oat milk, almond milk.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
The dairy industry didn't like the word milk being used
in that stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
They said, it's misleading, it's not really milk. So how's
Bill twelve three Again? We're talking now about laws that
are coming into effect today. As of now, these laws
are in effect. This bill requires companies that sell lab
grown meat they have to put a label on it

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that calls it sell cultivated meat. And according to the
Colorado Sun, the bill also lets public health authorities order
food processing plants or vendors to stop selling the products
if they are mislabeled. All right, here's one of the
few very good laws that takes effect today. House Bill

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ten forty added nuclear power as a category that falls
within the state definitions of clean energy sources. So it
used to be solar, wind, geothermal, small hydroelectric power, and
hydrogen and again coloradosun dot com. This means nuclear is

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now part of the mix as the state works towards
its twenty fifty clean energy goals. By the way, the
clean energy goals from Jared Polus are somewhere between extremely
difficult and absolutely impossible. In any case, this also opens
the door for public funding taxpayer involvement with future nuclear projects.
Because to the extent that a state, especially a state

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like Colorado that is just run by the LATH, would
only spend state money on energy sources that they call clean,
then having nuclear in that category means you could get
some state funding in that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Here's a bill that's harmless, designation of state mushroom. I
don't know much about mushrooms. House Bill ten ninety one
has named a mushroom the let's see the scientific name
Agaricus julius. And in English it's known as the Emperor mushroom.
And it grows in the state's high elevations spruce and
fir forests and is prior and is prized by chefs

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for its rich flavor.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
So there you go. Ah, right, what else?

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Okay, here's another stupid one, House Bill eleven sixty one.
As of today, if you buy a gas stove in Colorado,
and I encourage you to do so, by the way,
it's gonna come with a new warning label encouraging consumers
to be informed, a yellow label. We'll have a ur
L and a QR code leading to information about the
health and air quality impacts of using gas fueled stoves indoors.

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Online retailers will have to include the same content on
their websites. Violations will be considered a deceptive trade practice. Look,
electric stoves are a pain. They're slow, the heat up slow,
they cool down slow. Always hated cooking on electric induction
stoves are interesting, but I find them a little gimmicky,
and I don't like them very much.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
I love cooking with natural gas.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Right, it's hot immediately, and then it's cold immediately, or
you know, the flames off immediately, the burners still be
the great was to be worn for a little while,
but I just love it. You've got essentially perfect heat control.
And it's just become a thing on the left now
to go after natural gas because they hate people. So
in any case, now you're gonna have to probably spend

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an extra dollar or two on the stove you want
to buy anyway, because some leftists somewhere thought you needed
a warning label.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
What else?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
House Bil ten ninety nine goes into effect today requires
all public schools, including charter schools, to develop within a
year essentially eleven months, a formal policy about the use
of cell phone in school use of cell phones in schools. Now,

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let me make something very clear. This bill does not
say what the policy is. The bill just says every
school has to come up with a policy, and the
policy can be no cell phones in schools. It could
be no cell phones in classrooms, it could be it
could be anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
There just has to be a policy, and the policy
has to be posted on the school's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Website once it's finalized. Here's another one, House Bill eleven eighty.
If you are selling a pet or putting a pet
up for adoption, you can't do it in a public space.
You can't do it on the side of the road,
you can't do it in a parking lot or I
don't know what a public market means, but maybe like

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where you're selling livestock or something now, because actually you
can sell a pet where you're selling livestock and also
of course at pet stores.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
And it also doesn't apply to hunting dogs, and it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Also doesn't apply to people transporting animals to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Exhibitions or competitions. So there's that. What else I haven't
seen this one before? House built twelve oh seven.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Insurers will not be able to raise your to deny,
or cancel your homeowners or renter's policy, or raise your
rates based on what kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Dog you have. However the dog does. The law does
still allow them to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Refuse, cancel, revise a policy if a dog has been
officially deemed dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Also, starting in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
It requires public housing to allow renters to keep up
to two pets.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Let's see a gun thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
In House Bill twelve seventy requires the state to develop
and post gun violence prevention materials so that schools.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Can share them with kids. Okay, moving on to the
next one. This one I think.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I don't hate this one. I just don't think it'll
do very much. But it's conceptually interesting even though I
don't think it'll do very much, and I don't think
people will use it. Senate Bill thirty four Voluntary Firearm
do not Sell Registry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
And the reason I don't think people will use this
is they will even if they see the upside.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Of the intent, which I'll get to in a moment.
I think they will see downside of having put their
own names on a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
List like this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
But this is a system for people who want to
voluntarily block themselves from buying a gun. So you've heard
of red flag laws, right, So a red flag law
would be where certain people, not anybody, but normally it
would be law enforcement or like somebody who lives with
somebody thinks that somebody poses a danger to himself or others,

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and you do this red flag thing and then the
cops can come take what guns they have and block
them from being able to buy any other guns. So
that's red flag, that's somebody else doing it. This would
be a voluntary thing. Anybody would be able to go
online and add their name to state and federal background
check systems.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
And the idea is to prevent suicides.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
If somebody who is thinking I want to hurt myself,
you know, I don't have a gun. I want to
not have a brain cramp and go buy a gun
and kill myself. So I'm going to put myself on
the list. Now, the program can't actually start until the
state raises about two hundred thousand dollars in non taxpayer money,

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and that money has not been raised yet, so as
of today, the law is in effect, but the program
isn't set up yet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
And like I say, I I admire the intent. I
really do. I don't want people killing themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
And a lot of times, not all the time, I'm
not expert, but a lot of times suicide is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
It's a it's a sudden thing. It's it's not a
crime of I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Could be a crime somewhere, but it's something people have
been maybe depressed for a while, or something bad happens
and something snaps, that might unsnap the next day. But
if you kill yourself, it doesn't get a chance to unsnap.
And if somebody is in a position to be in
a clarity of mind to say I want to make
sure I don't go do this thing, I think that's great.

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I just think that for a lot of people, especially
if it's someone who might want to own a firearm
in the future, not for that purpose, I think somebody
might say I'm not going to put myself on a list,
say that I'm a danger to myself or maybe the
others buying a firearm, even if I can take myself
off the list later, because what if there's a record

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that I've been on this list and they'll use it
against me later.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
When actually I'm feeling just fine and I want to
buy a gun.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yes, Dragon, does it go in to say as to
how you could get your name on off of that
list once you put it on, it probably does.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
It probably does. And I don't think i've read it yet.
Let's see, I'd have to go dig around. I'd have
to go dig around and find out. Let's see, here,
here we go the Colorado Bureau of Investigation shall develop
an online portal for a person to electronically file for
a voluntary waiver, update contract information, and revoke the voluntary waiver.

(01:05:42):
But again, if I were that person, I would probably
wonder is there going to be a record of this and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Will it be held against me later? It's too easy
to get off then?

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
All right, I'm feeling really depressed today. All right, let
me click click click, Now I'm off the list. Okay, yeah,
almost almost excellent point. It was thought of when they
drafted the law. You cannot get off the list. You
don't get off the list for thirty days.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
After saying take me off the list, you're still on
it for thirty days. Okay, So that addresses that a
little bit. But I still think there are some questions
around there. Let me just see if there's anything else
I want to add. Just about out of time on
this topic. I didn't think I would do a whole section,
a whole segment on these new laws, but actually they're
pretty interesting and they cover a lot of things. House

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Bill twelve ninety you could be charged with a crime
if you interfere with a transit worker on duty. It
makes it illegal to get in the way of bus drivers,
train operators, ticket inspectors, and maintenance workers. It can be
considered criminal harassment. This was already a crime within RTD,
but this makes it a crime across the entire state.

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Last one, and this one's pretty heavy, but I'm going
to share it. House Bill eleven eighty five. Survivors of
sexual assault who become pregnant as a result now have
a clearer path to giving up the child. In Colorado,
a woman can submit documentation like a sworn affidavit, and
if a judge agrees the case qualifies, she wouldn't have
to follow the usual legal steps.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Once the court approves the request, the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Survivor is no longer no longer legally responsible for the child. Well,
it sounds like a much bigger conversation to have. That's
all I have from the Colorado Son in any case,
Thank you very much to the Colorado Son and to
reporters Jesse Paul and Lucas, Brandy Woods and Cole McKinnon
for putting together such an informative thing. Those were all

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laws that came into effecting Colorado today. Somebody would get that.
Somebody would get that. That's rough yeah, somebody would get
that one. That's great.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Paul from Fort Collins requested Molly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Hatchett Flirting with Disaster to be played by DJ Mephistopheles,
and I would like to congratulate you, Paul, for knowing
how to spell the DJ's name even better than the
DJ himself knows how to spell it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
You want to you want to give out my real
name and everything?

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I'm happy to play a play a US. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Yeah, if you if you are knowledgeable enough about this
show to know it and spell.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
It, corispell it correctly.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
You got it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
DJ Mephistopheles Red Beard. Wait, yeah, I've never really asked.
This is DJ on your birth certificate? Okay, DJ is
just a term of endearment and a professional title, DJ
Mephistopheles Red Beard. I just got an interesting email from
a gentleman named William, who says, Ross, I get so

(01:08:40):
tired of your constant, arrogant, ignorant put down of renewable energy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
What do you think your.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Kids are going to use to power their world when
all the fossil fuels are gone and the planet's environment
is so hot that they won't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Be able to live in Colorado I'm going to answer this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I'm gonna I'm gonna take this seriously. And this gentleman
has emailed me before about this particular issue. It seems
to be a thing that he cares a lot about,
although I don't think he knows very much about it,
and that happens a lot. A lot of people care
a lot about things that they don't know very much about.
He says, on some things, you're very level headed and thoughtful, but.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Not on energy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
So I actually think this is super important topic. And
as long as he asked me, I'm gonna answer them.
So first, I don't really put down renewable energy as
a blanket thing like that. I have two primary concerns
about the major forms of what we talk about as

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renewable energy these days, right, So I'm gonna put aside
for now biomass and put aside hydro electric. Primarily we
talk about solar and wind. So I've got two primary
concerns about them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
What is land use?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Okay, actually I've got three concerns. What is land use,
especially wind? Two is intermittency, the fact that unless you
have batteries and when you're talking about utility scale powering
a city, we're not anywhere close to having battery systems
that are large enough and affordable that you could store

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enough renewable energy in the batteries to then power the city,
let's say, at night when the sun isn't shining, at
a time when the wind isn't blowing. So you still
need to have natural gas or nuclear or something. Because
until there are batteries, whether again it's at the level
of the whole city or every house has its own batteries,
or whatever renewables are, they can't solve the problem. By

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the way, in terms of global production of energy, a
couple of years ago, maybe five years ago, renewables were
something like one I think one percent of global energy production.
I think it's up to one and a half. Or
it's because we're we've done a fair bit in America,
but around the world they're not because it's just not

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a very good idea in most places. And also remember
that with this so called renewable stuff that unless you're
co locating it right at an existing power plant, then
you've got to spend all this incredible amount of money
connecting it to the grid from somewhere. It's very, very expensive.
She got the land use. You got the intermittency, but really,
by far my biggest if you want to call it

(01:11:27):
a put down of renewable energy, is not actually a
put down of renewable energy. It is a put down
of making renewable quote unquote renewable energy seem cheaper than
it is by spending our children's future incomes. That's what
I'm really pissed off about. Right, I don't love or

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hate renewable energy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
I actually like solar panels on roofs. Right, I've done
that at two different houses. Is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
I mostly don't like wind, but there are some places
where it can makes sense, like West Texas. But what
I don't what I don't like is the subsidies they're spending.
They're they're adding billions trillions to the national debt to
subsidize energy that can't make it on its own in

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most cases because it is just too expensive. And that,
my friend, William, is what I don't like. Here's the
other thing I wanted to respond to with William. He said,
where are your kids gonna What do you think your
kid's gonna use to power the world when fossil fuels
are gone? All right, let me ask you this question, William, serious,
absolutely serious question. So there's a data set out there

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that records the trend over time of proven reserves of oil,
and I think there's a similar number for gas. I
don't know if they use the same term proven reserves.
I'm not I don't know as much about gas, but
I suspect that the answer is going to be about
the same when I ask you the question. So you've
got this chart right, and go up and down, and

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the X axis is the year, and the why axis
is proven reserves.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
What is proven reserves mean?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Proven reserves means the amount of energy that is not
let's say oil or guess that is not just in
the ground, but in the ground in a structure and
location and concentration that it is strongly believed that it

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can be extracted from the ground. Right, So it's energy
that's in the ground right now that we are highly
confident we can get at and use. So it's not
just a number that encapsulates all theoretical energy in the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
It's stuff that we can get to and use.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
So here's my question for you, William, in what year
do you think the proven reserves for oil? Because remember,
we use an immense amount of oil every year and
natural gas? In what year do you think we had
in the United States the very highest number for proven reserves.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Of oil?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
And in what year do you think we had the
very highest number of proven reserves or whatever the term
is for natural gas?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
And remember, like I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Said, we're taking an immense amount of oil and gas
out of the ground every single year. So in what
year do you think we peaked? Because that goes directly
to your question of you know, what are the kids
gonna do when the fossil fuels are gone? So I'm
gonna let William and everybody else think about that for
a minute. I'm gonna take a quick break and come back,
and I'm gonna tell you the answer, responding to a

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listener named William who's a little bit upset about what
he calls my dismissal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Of renewable energy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
And there are things I don't like about renewable energy
very much, land use and so on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
But the main thing I don't like is subsidies.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
And if if solar and wind and whatever makes sense
without stealing are without adding to the national debt and
stealing our children's future, is if it can come compete
alongside of other forms of energy, then go forward.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
It's okay with me. I've just knocked down with the subsidies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
And then William said, what do you think we're gonna
use for power when the fossil fuels run out? So,
first of all, nuclear, of course, is nuclear is by far,
it is not even close. Nuclears by far the best
way to produce electrical energy. Natural gas right now is
the second best. But William's question was what are we
gonna do when fossil fuels run out? So what I

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said at the end of the last segment was I
asked William, and I asked anybody else who wants to
think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
When do you think we had our peak?

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Our absolute peak in what's called proved reserves proven proven reserves,
and it is the same term for oil and natural
gas and what it means. And I missed a part
of the definition that's important, okay, And so I do
want to make sure I get this. I guess I
missed part of the definition is important. The definition of

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proved reserves, in fact, let me just go to chat
GPT includes the price. So it's not just is it
oil or gas that we can technologically get out of
the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
But is it oil or gas that we.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Are with reasonable certainty going to get out of the
ground based on the existing economic.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
And operating conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
So what you would normally expect is that proven reserves
would go down a little bit when prices go down,
because there'll be some stuff that's a little bit more
expensive to get out of the ground. And so companies
will say, you know, well, at the price that we're
selling oil and gas for right now, will probably leave
some of that more expensive stuff over there. So keep

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that in mind. In any case, let me just give
you just a little quiz here, William. In twenty fourteen,
the proven reserves of oil in the United States were
just under thirty six billion barrels. Okay, so let's call

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it ten years ago, just under thirty six billion barrels.
And you know, William, because you tell it, you're telling
us oil and gas are running out. So what how
much do you think our proven reserves were nine years later?
Twenty twenty three is the last year we have data for.
Nine years later, we had just under thirty six billion

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proven reserves.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
What do you think it is now?

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Because we've been using so much oil, it went from
just under thirty six to just over forty six, and
that's actually after a pretty big downtick from forty eight
in twenty twenty two because prices went down and Alaska
and North Cotin Wa.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
So anyway, proven.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Reserves, William, are up almost a third from ten years ago,
and for gas it's about the same. In twenty fourteen,
proven reserves of natural gas and trillion cubic feet was
four hundred and seventy three and in twenty twenty three

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it's six hundred and three and it was actually a
lot higher than that the year before, but it went
down because prices went down. If prices were to go up,
the proven reserves would actually go up because it would
be economical. So my answer to your question, William, when
you said, what are people gonna do when we run
out of fossil fuels? Essentially, in an almost a straight

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line basis, for the past twenty five years or so,
since the inventions of fracking and horizontal drilling, the amount
of fossil fuel available to the United States to the
out of the ground has gone up almost every year,
and certainly the trend significant uptrend because we are finding

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more ways to get more stuff out of the ground,
and so the idea that we're going to run out
of fossil fuels is nonsense. It is it is irrelevant,
It is impossible in any timeframe that matters. So, William,
I do think you seem legitimately concerned about this question,
and I do not want to be dismissive of your concern.

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I would just suggest to you that the data says
that you are worried about something you should not be
worried about. I would also note, since you seem to
be concerned about climate change, that the actual change in
climate of global temperatures is much, much, much less than

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than had been predicted by the alarmists, by Al Gore,
by the United Nations, by almost.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Everybody talking about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Over the last twenty five years, the climate, the actual
climate change has been much less than they said, and
the amount of energy available to us in the ground
is much more than you think. So, William, I appreciate
that you care a lot, but I would encourage you
to learn more, joining me in studio. Brian Shaw four

(01:20:10):
times the world's strongest man, four times four times the
world's strongest man, and born and bred Colorado, still lives
in Colorado, and we're gonna have an immense amount of
stuff to talk about, and if we got a little time,
Brian might bench press me here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
In the studio. And by the way before if we
get to that, I have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
That's Mandy's idea, but in any case, we might have
a little fun with that. I've got an immense number
of things to talk to you about, but I just
want to make sure I get at least a couple
of times to the Shaw Classic upcoming because it's just
such a cool event.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
It's upcoming really soon. Tell us what people need to
know about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
The Shaw Classic, and I'll just tell people before Brian
gives a description Theshawclassic dot com for the website, it's
up on my blog.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
If you forget any of that, you can go to
my website and find it. But tell us about it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
Well. Number one, I really pray you having me on.

Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
This is really really cool to be able to come
on and promote and do that type of thing and
connect with a different fan base, hopefully through the event.
And the event is something we actually started in twenty twenty,
so it's just we flew in the guys. I put
up the prize money. We ran it out of my
actual home gym space, and then it just kind of
has grown from there. So now we're at the Blue

(01:21:21):
Arena in Loveland, Colorado, and it's grown into an entire
fitness weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
So we have an expo that's free to the public.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
We have a Strongman which is the strongest Manager, so
the top sixteen strongman in the world come in battle
it out over two days, eight events, crazy crazy weights
in that. And then we've brought in this year arm wrestling,
so we have what's called the Strongest arm on Earth
and we're doing a collaborative event with East versus West,
which is the top arm wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Promotion in the world.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
And then we've got powerlifting, We've got a grip contest,
We've got expo, like I said, with all the booths,
so a really really cool positive weekend of fitness. Dates
and how you get tickets, So it starts on Friday,
August fifteenth, so next Friday, and that is the expo
will go down. All the arm wrestling happens on the Friday,

(01:22:11):
so the super Match event you can get tickets to that,
and then on Saturday and Sunday is the Strongest Man
on Earth and then again tickets for that. But the
expo runs Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, so any of the
days are great.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
But man, most people come in. We have people fly
in from.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
All over the world to watch this, and it's a
really really cool, just positive energy environment for people, and
most people come in and leave super motivated, super inspired.
And I mean that's seeing some of this in person,
the strong Man events in person, there's I've had people
come that didn't know anything about strong Man and they

(01:22:48):
were like, Wow, I can't believe what I just watched
and what just happened right in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
I'm tempted to bring one of my kids up. I've
never seen one of his competitions. Bring one of my
kids up. Plus I can introduce him to you, yes,
which is pretty cool. Vshawclassic dot com to learn more.
I had a question I was going to ask you later,
but you touched on it, so I wanted to ask
you about it now. You actually started this intentionally during

(01:23:16):
COVID when everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Was just shutting stuff down. Yes, tell me a little
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
So I became friends with a number of the guys
that I competed with and you know, when everything was
shut down, a lot of these guys depend on contest
prize money to make a living and also from sponsorship money,
and all of that was going away. So everybody was
kind of down and depressed, and I, you know, one
night was just like, all right, I got to try

(01:23:40):
to do something. I want to do something to help, right,
And so I came in. I woke my wife up,
she was sleeping, and I was like, hey, I got
this crazy idea. Let's just clear. I'm going to clear
out all of the equipment out of the gym, my
gym space, and we're going to fly the guys in
all put up the initial prize money, and we'll just
do it. We'll film it and we'll try to put
it out of people. You know, it's this crazy idea,

(01:24:02):
and you know, she typically I say crazy things to her,
but she was like, all right, just let me sit
on it for a bit. We'll figure out how we
can get them in. And we just fought through every
obstacle there flew him in. It was just a closed
door event that we had and it was awesome. It
was so so cool that everybody got to watch it,
and it was just trying to give back mainly to

(01:24:23):
the athletes, but then to the fans as well. They
got something to watch and it was such a cool environment,
like you know, it's like this lifting with your friends,
but putting out to the world. And in that time
and then in twenty one we're able to go more public.
Fans could come in twenty one and it just grew
and it was like the energy was big. We did

(01:24:44):
that in Essays Park actually, so the first one was
held in in Brighton at my home gym, and then
we actually we have a place up in SS Part two,
so I did the second day in that gym space.
It was just very, very cool, and so it's just
grown from there. Man, it's like one of those things
to try to get back. And you know, I said
from the start, it's buy the athletes for the athletes.

(01:25:05):
You know, I competed in strongmen for a very long
time and I saw a lot of the promoters taking
advantage of the athletes. I mean in strongman, there is
no athlete union, there's nobody representing the athletes, and so
I said, hey, there's a lot of things that could
be done better, and eventually you kind of have to
take the bull by the horns and say I'm going
to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
If somebody's going to do it, I have to do it.
And that's exactly what's happened.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
So by the athletes and for the athletes, and you know,
I mean we've grown to the point that actually last
year we gave away the biggest prize money ever in
the sport as strong men. And this is you know,
this is compared to World's Strongest Man that has ran
since the late seventies, and you know has the TV
deals and all that, you know, but for us, it's
just about being generous giving back and we grow the

(01:25:49):
prize money by people coming and buying tickets but also
watching the live stream as well.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Love it all right, It's just just so we get
through a lot of stuff. Give me some shorter answers
because this is going to go really fast. Just so
people know who I'm talking to. Like physically, I'm looking
at you. I'm guessing you're six' ten Or i'm a
little bit under six, eight, yeah. Okay and how much
do you weigh right right? Now i'm like three eighty five?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Okay and is that normal? Fight and wait for? You
is that your kind of target.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
Weight so the this Is i've actually cut down quite a,
bit So i'm in better, shape which is. Awesome but,
yeah a strong man like kind of in the peak
of my crow is like four forty range normally for
the upreend would have been like four.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Sixty. Wow, Heavy, yeah BUT i mean you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Don't you don't look you look incredibly fit and you're
almost four hundred pounds.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
ALMOST i mean that's kind of how big is your?

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
Wife she is five to seven, okay so very? Normal, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
One, more one more, thing just to sit a. Context
so when you do The World's Strongest man, stuff you're
doing all kinds of things that normal people never do
and can't compare it to. Something but just with some cut,
weather squat bench clean just give us a couple numbers
that ordinary weightlifters might know be able to compare.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
With what you.

Speaker 6 (01:27:10):
Do, Sure so we've actually tried to make it relatable
in a lot of ways because with strongman that's what you,
need is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
You need that wow. Factor you need that to.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Happen and so one of the, events for, example we'll
do this year is a standing chest, press and this
is a lot of people have called it kind of
like a keg g.

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Raider so it's this massive like if you see it in.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Person the kegs are all loaded in this loading mechanism
and one keg drops at a, time and then the
guys actually stand and press just like you would bench.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Press, yeah so they.

Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
Work up the top weight, there so the last keg
once it's, loaded will be five hundred and seventy five
pounds they have to finish.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
With so it's loaded with.

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Liquid then, no, no it's the kegs are the kegs are,
shells so it's you, know they're thirty five. Pounds, yeah
but then it's eight. Reps eight kegs have to fall
down and then then.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
You're loading up that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
Way BUT i mean we've done what you're putting straight
out correct air away from your, body but you're standing
in this. Machine so that's a cool one because a
lot of people are, like, okay well bench, PRESS i
did bench, press however much weight in the, gym but you,
know the guys getting up to and we'll have some
guys finish that and potentially do reps at five hundred
and seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Pounds so that is equivalent to somebody who is lying
on their back and the standard bench press trying to
press five.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
Hunderstand, yeah it's all weighed, exactly BUT i mean we've
got a leg press in the, past not this, year
but we put a car on top of the leg,
press so it's like we gutted the car, out but
it's two thousand pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:28:41):
Roughly SO i mean some of the weights this, year.

Speaker 6 (01:28:44):
We've got The Atlas, stones The round, stones a lot
of people know those and Strong. Man the top weight
in that is six hundred, pounds so the guys will
be able to lift this. Year so we'll have a
super yoke carry we get built with gun safes on
it and they'll they'll pick that up and carry. IT
i think the top weight there'll be about fourteen hundred
pounds that they'll have to, Carry so a lot of big.

(01:29:06):
Weights but this is this is hands. DOWN i, mean
my biggest goal with this is to prove who is
the strongest man on. Earth so the, weights the weights are.
Real this is the heaviest strong man contest in the. World,
again it's the top athletes in the. World so, wow
whoever wins.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
This, contest there's very little debate that they are they're
they're the Top.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Dog, first we're talking With Brian, shaw four times The
World's Strongest man and proprietor and host Of The Shaw
classic coming up next Week vshawclassic dot.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Com so.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
YOU i, mean you've been doing this for a long
time now and you're not like the young gun on
the block.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Anymore sure so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
You might you still be the world's strongest? Man or
do you think is that still possible for? You?

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
SO i ACTUALLY i retired From strongmen in twenty twenty.
Three SO i.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
WON i won this Contest The strongest went On earth
in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Oh not that long.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
Ago, NO i was my shot, MAN i called.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
IT i.

Speaker 6 (01:30:01):
RETIRED i competed almost many years in Strong man and
it was. GREAT i wanted to be able to call
my own shot and walk. Away so, Yeah i'm not
when the Super bowl is a, man that's not. Bad,
yeah that's not. Bad did you ever invent an event
several of?

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
These several of?

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
These me?

Speaker 6 (01:30:19):
One, Yeah, WELL i mean the car Leg press for,
sure that. Was and this This keg Chest press that
we brought, up that's another. One you, know there's different
twists on some of the Strong men events That i've
tried to.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
Do, uh but again it's like the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:31):
Stones there's four of the stones that it's, Weight trump's,
reps so you get rewarded if you're. Stronger so somebody walks,
out for, example loads that six hundred pounds, stone they
beat any competitor that did any reps on the other.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Stones so it's it's kind of a strategy type of.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
Thing but, uh you would try to make the events very,
fun very interactive for the athletes but also for the.
Fans so it's you, know some of the strength feats
man with this weekend are going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Ridiculous when you are a, competing how and how much
are you?

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Eating so my top end calories were ten to twelve
thousand calories a day and that was typically spread over
six or seven meals. Throughout so eating the best way
to say. It when you're eating for strong minutes a.
Job it is for sure a. Job every two to three,
hours you're sitting, down whether you're hungry or, not and

(01:31:22):
you're getting that food.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
In so it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
Fuel you have to constantly be eating and to get
down that much, Food the eating for me was the
worst part by. Far, yeah training everybody's like all the
training had to be so. HARD i enjoyed the, Training
it was. Fine it was just you never got away
from the. Eating so you wake, up you eat yeah,
thing and then you eat all the way until you
go to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Bad eating three dozen eggs a? Day is it exhibit
part of?

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
It OR i would say that the top end, EGGS
i was probably close twenty five to thirty a. Day
on the upper END i tried to at certain POINTS
i would put him, in BUT i would say it
kind of a minimum.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
Would be like, twelve like a dozen a.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Day any do you ever get a serious? Injury the,
worst the worst THAT.

Speaker 6 (01:32:04):
I got WAS i detached my left bicep and that
was back In gosh twenty twelve around that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Time and you, KNOW i, mean of COURSE i had different.

Speaker 6 (01:32:15):
INJURIES i was pulling a truck and detached my plan
of fascists so on the bottom of my.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Foot yeah that wasn't super fun, Fun, no BUT i.
WAS i, mean knock on.

Speaker 6 (01:32:25):
WOOD i was able to stay away from getting big,
injuries WHICH i think really extended my career and allowed
me to walk away now Where i'm still healthy AND
i feel. GOOD i don't have any shoulder or back
problems or like anything like, that which is, great BUT
i tried to train SPART i tried to recover, well you,
know and listen to my body AS i was. Training

(01:32:45):
so you, know it's it's it's a brutal sport.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Though.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
Man it's it's like big bull, weights and you, know
it's easy to kind of have a little injury lead
to a bigger injury and that type of. Thing so
you really need to be on top of taking care
of your.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Body we're talking With Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Shaw His Shaw Classic weekend is coming up from Next,
Friday Saturday, sunday the, fifteen, sixteenth and. Seventeenth what's the
arena called In, Loveland.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
So it's The Blue, Arena BLUE, fcu.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
The BLUE Fcu arena and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
You can go To vshawclassic dot com to get. Tickets
AND i THINK i really may have to go. Now
we have about five or six minutes AND i, Know
i'm this is just like you can probably do this
with your freaking pointer, finger BUT i think you need
to bench press me and your buddy. Here your buddy
here can get a picture of you bench pressing, me
and we'll go over in front of the koa, wall

(01:33:35):
and since it's semi professional, radio what we'll do is
we'll have Producer dragon take over the voice part of the,
radio since most of you can't see me right now
except those people in the apartments right out. There So,
dragon you're gonna have to describe what's what's going, on
and then we'll come back and talk some more for
the next few.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
Minutes all, right all, right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
All, right So ros steps away from the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Mind.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
Shaw they're gonna turn the, lights sure they get a
good camera image over.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Here they're trying to be paid.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Us we're the best fused microphone on so you guys
can hear everything going on in the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Studio But dragon will do much of.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
The, talking, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
Trying to make sure, Okay shaw gets on the, ground
trying to find out the best spot for them to
be coordinating exactly How ross is supposed to position.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Himself so this is an in.

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Himself ross is a little bit concerned about his hair
that he had just gotten. Done all, Right So ross
is on top Of shaw right, now and sure, Enough
shaw with ease across up again and, again counting, four, five, six, seven.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Eight sew's just having the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Time of his.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Life here And ross is just pay per weight To.
Shaw this is that's. AMAZING i was not expecting that.
Today we even got a little bit of a view
from the glass, now so that's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
That's one hundred and seventy, pounds which probably lighter than
what you even warm up with when you're doing your own.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
STUFF i, mean it wasn't, yeah it wasn't too.

Speaker 6 (01:35:09):
Bad it's awkward with a human, being, right you're moving
a little, bit so, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Okay we got about four minutes. Left.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Brian how much of winning this kind of competition is
about strategy and not just.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Strength there's definitely a lot of strategy with it because
if you make make the wrong, call for, example and
pick a weight that you can't, lift you might zero an,
event and with sixteen competitors you drop sixteen. Points that
may put you out of contention of. Winning so strategy
with how much energy do you put out in each?

(01:35:47):
Event you, know what do you have to pick up points?
In what can you maybe you, know fall down a little,
Bit but the rule is really if you want to,
win you need to try to shoot for you, know
top three on every single. Event that's kind of a
good place to be because you never drop, down And
i'll tell you, what you get top three in every

(01:36:07):
one of these, events it's going to be, very very
hard for somebody to beat that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Performance we've got a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Few listener, Questions, yes do you have interest IN? MMA i.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
ENJOY, mma and we don't need to necessarily go into
this too. Much BUT i did get like a wild
opportunity to do a, fight AND i was training for
it and then it all fell.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Apart SO i was able to learn a. LOT i
have a lot of respect for.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
It for.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Sure how do you protect your? Spine, Spine so what
you want to do is the form needs to be spot.

Speaker 6 (01:36:43):
On so this is SOMETHING i say to younger kids
getting into, it is don't worry so much about the
way that you're. Lifting make sure that your form is rock,
solid so your foundation is, good and then follow that as.
Well so when your form starts to break, down that's
when you're. Done don't push it further than. That and
that's a really good rule of. Thumb but you learn
how to, brace you learn how to stay safe with,

(01:37:05):
lifting and you, know it really starts with having good.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
FORM a listener.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Wants me to ask a question about, you BUT i
think it would be an inappropriate question to ask you about,
You So i'm gonna word it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Differently is their use of and performance enhancing drugs or
steroids in this? Sport and and and if you think there, is.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Do you try to root it out like baseball or
do you just assume this is part of it and
we're never gonna catch?

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
It and so we're just gonna whatever it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:35):
Is it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
Is, yeah IT'S i, mean each each, guy it's it's
very hard to say one of those things like because
we we fly the guys, in so we don't have
we don't have the ability to necessarily go to their
home and test, them like you know some of the
protocols with maybe THE ufc and that type of thing
where you would be going to their home to test.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
Them so we're bringing them in for one.

Speaker 6 (01:37:55):
Weekend we do one contest a, year so that's not
something we really have have the ability to. Do and
also the like, Financially, yes as to whether it's prevalent
in Strong, man, IT'S i, mean it's one of those
things that it could. Be it could be for, sure you,
Know and and it's it's one of those things like

(01:38:15):
the guys don't, really we don't necessarily ask them about,
it and it's not really.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
And you don't worry about it. Either.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
PARTICULARLY i, mean do you think it's as much an
advantage in your sport as they think it might be
In tour De france baseball hitting home?

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
RUNS i, mean it's it's CERTAINLY i think could be
could be an.

Speaker 6 (01:38:36):
Advantage it's one of those things, that, like you, know
it depends on where where the competitor individually.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
LIES i think that's what comes down.

Speaker 6 (01:38:43):
TO i THINK i think in an ideal, world what
what you, know everybody, wants, athletes, fans et, cetera would
be for it to be a level playing field across the.

Speaker 7 (01:38:52):
Board.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
Yep and so you, KNOW i think when you see,
guys and you'll see a lot of them that perform,
well consistently well there they're training, hard they're working, hard
and if they're consistently performing over a number of, years
that's a pretty good indicator that that you, know they're
probably not relying on that to help, them you. Know

(01:39:14):
so you, know it's it's it's one of those things
THAT i, think you, KNOW i think, again at the
end of the, day you want it to be a
level playing field, right and and that's that's what it, is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Because the fans won't like it as much if they
think it's corrupted as.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Well all, right we're out of, time SO i would
like to just give you the last few seconds to
remind people about the show. Classic.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
Yeah, well, look this is an event that we brought To,
colorado and you, know local support is, huge and it's
one of those things like with me being From, colorado
born and raised, here it's neat to have the community
support and that for them to come out and have
an event like, this for for people to come out in,
experience and again even if they only come to the
expo for free and just check it out kind of

(01:39:55):
see what it's all. About you, know obviously being it
there's nothing like being in an arena for that contest
and seeing these things happen in.

Speaker 4 (01:40:02):
Person it's.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
Unreal and you, know even people that don't Follow strongman
may be super. Close it's a great way to come
out and have a, good good. Time and there's so
many people that have, said, Hey i've been to a Super,
Bowl i've been to a football, game and it's like
the energy in that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Arena they, said it's not even. Comparable it's so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Cool so someone's gonna pick one day and they don't
know anything about this.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Sport which day should be a man of? Life, well
if you like arm, wrestling It's. Friday if you like,
Strongman saturday Or sunday Or.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Sunday, yeah all, right, Folks Theshaw classic Dot. Com the
event is at The BLUE Fcu arena In, loveland next
not this Next, Friday saturday And, Sunday august fifteenth to,
seventeenth The shawclassic Dot. Com i'm gonna try to get up.
There great to meet you in. Person thanks for.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Doing, this coming to the. Studio thanks for bench pressing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Me with one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Finger great to meet, You thank.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
YOU i really really appreciate.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
It and, FOLKS i know you'd be happy to get
rid of. Me But i'm going to do the first
segment Of Mandy show before The rockies.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Game so keep it here ON koa No It's Mandy
connell andyn.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
ON koa.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
As, Welcome, Welcome welcome to The Mandy Connell. SHOW i
am your host for the. DAY i am Not Randy,
cromwell who was not available.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Today mandy would much rather have Had Randy cromwell than. Yours,
TRULY i am Still, ross who you have heard jabbering
on here ON koa for the last few, hours PRODUCER
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Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Is and you, know before before we get to my,
guest anything you want to update me on on your
last bits of training camp.

Speaker 7 (01:42:10):
Yesterday, Well, ROSS i will say it was even though
even with it being a day in, pads some momentum
continues to grow, slowly understandably slowly for the, offense kind
of swinging the pendulum back to WHAT i think will
be the number one defense in THE. Nfl so much better,

(01:42:31):
Yesterday Troy. Franklin that that second your wide Receiver i've
talked to you. About he he looks extremely. Good AND
i will, say as of right, now breaking, news literally moments,
ago the first unofficial depth chart has been released and no,
surprises all the, rookies INCLUDING. R. J harvey And JOHN. A,

(01:42:52):
barron all last on all of their respective. Positions. Wow
which is just a.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
Final nail on the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Coffin if there was any doubt about.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
It you heard it.

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
Here, first these mean absolutely. Nothing, first initial unofficial depth
charts mean.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07):
NOTHING. R.

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
J harvey is not the fifth string running back And
john Ay baron is not last in terms of.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Corner.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Right this is the coach telling me these guys you're
the new kid on the block and you still gotta hearn.

Speaker 7 (01:43:18):
It, yeah, Correct, okay and it To San francisco. Today,
yeah joint practice tomorrow In san fran which none of
us here get to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Watch and when's the Game? Saturday? Saturday so all, right
let's do something completely. Different we've heard a lot in
the NEWS kwa news broadcasts about changes in security At
Denver International. Airport OBVIOUSLY da huge For, denver but it's
also an enormous hub, airport SO i wanted to get

(01:43:47):
some information about.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
That and THEN i saw a press release That.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Rob dawson from OUR kaway newsdesk sent me About denver
air looking to set up a lot of its OWN
i guess what you would call utility, infrastructure including even
possibly their own nuclear, reactor believe it or. Not AND
i just, Thought, okay this is something we need to talk,
about so joining us to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
It Stacy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Stegman stacey has a very long TITLE DiiA Senior Vice
president Of, Communications marketing And Customer. EXPERIENCE i suppose you
could Call stacy spokesperson as well if you don't want
the long. Title but so good to have her back
on the. Show Hello, Stacy good Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Ron SO i first.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Wanted to book you to talk about security, stuff AND
i do want to do, That and THEN i also
want to talk about a press release you guys put out,
yesterday AND i think you're going to have a press
conference later, Today so let's try to get two topics
in in about seven.

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
Minutes, okay, okay, yea all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Right so there's been a bunch of news and we've
covered it here ON koa regarding new security lines and so.
ON i THINK i DO i want you to spend
a ton of time on what we know, already but
just to give us a brief overview of what's changed
and then a brief overview of what we might expect
to still change when it comes to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:10):
Security.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Yeah, WELL i think for those who have traveled and
have been through the New west security that's going to
be very common to. Them now it's the, same it's
mirror image it's exactly what you've. Experienced. THEN i think
it's for the people who have been going to the
downstairs security that it's going to be a bit of
a shock for a time period because you're going through

(01:45:33):
all new technology and it's different how you go. Through
there's bigger bins that are, automatic it's okay to cut
in front of, someone to go to a new station
and open. Station and because these bins are, bigger and
because the technology is, better you don't have to take
your liquids out of your, bag you don't have to
take your laptop off. NOW tsa, says you don't have
to take your shoes. Off so it's a much better

(01:45:55):
experience just going through general, screening not mentioned pre tech
and all the other.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Premium, so given what you just, said what are the
benefits of pre check now rather than possibly a shorter,
Line but it's not even that shorter because everybody and
their mother is pre check. Now it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
IS i think pre check at our airport now is
much more common to what you're going to experience true general.
SCREENING i think prechect tends to go. Faster you have
more seasoned, travelers people that are used to, it right
they kind of know how to pack this, right they.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
Go through it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Quicker, yeah it's pre.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
CHECK i think at the other airports with the older,
equipment that's where there's a, bigger bigger, difference bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Gap, YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
AGREE i think that probably the single biggest time change
is the.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Shoes but the other stuff you talked about is important.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Too can you elaborate for a second on what you said,
about like cutting in front or what was?

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
That, yeah, dude think about the old equipment where you
had to stand in a long line and you just
go one after the. Other in these, lines there's three
different stations with. Bins so if you're behind someone and
there's an open station in front of, them you. Can
we want you to go up use that open station
so we can just keep getting people through.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Quicker. Okay and so what are the security areas? Called?
Now are the east and? West are the east and?
West east and?

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
West?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
Yeah and can the lizard people use both east and
west or they have to use just one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Side we're building a new one for them so we
won't mix them in with the human that's, smart actually very.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Smart, now the lizard people have particular energy, needs.

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Which is probably why you guys put out that press
release wrest last night THAT i wanted to talk to you.
About just fortunate timing to have you on. Today and
it's not just the lizard, people it could be regular people,
too AND i was very, fascinated AND i like you
to elaborate a bit on the statement that you guys
may be thinking about a small modular nuclear reactor to

(01:47:49):
POWER deia and other interesting infrastructure. Stuff can you talk
about that for?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Us you, know we're the largest consumer of electricity in
the state Of, colorado right Where excels biggest. Customers, wow
that's because the airport clearly is a you, know, busy
crazy place besides us with the airlines and all of our.
Tenants and so what we're trying to do is really
think ahead for the future on where the best ways

(01:48:16):
to meet our energy demands in the future and how
do we do that in the cleanest possible. Way and
So Mayor johnson OUR Ceo Phill washington are going to
talk a little bit more about that this.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
Afternoon, Okay so that that sounds Like i'm going to
give you a little, answer But i'm not going to
get ahead of the boss too.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
Much was that what that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
WAS i think that's. Fair and the boss and the boss's,
boss the.

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Boss and the boss's, boss, right, so, uh that is super,
interesting do YOU i know you talked, about you, know
the cleanest possible, way right for the, RECORD i DON'T
i barely care how, clean how clean it. IS i
care how cheap it. Is and AGAIN i understand you
might not get too far ahead or you might not
even know these. Answers but if you do go down

(01:48:59):
this road of supplying your own energy with AN, smr for,
example do you think that would be a cost increase
or a cost savings for the? Airport and if it
is a cost, savings might that flow through to travelers
or to people buying a seventy nine Dollars hamburger at
the airport or.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
That kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Thing, yeah, well we don't know the answers. YET i
mean there's the things we're going to be, exploring and
cost right is going to be a factor in anything
that we. DO i, think you, know the biggest thing
is we know our needs are going to be. GREAT i,
mean if you look at where we are today and
then look at you, know we have new runways that
are going to be coming, online a whole new expansion

(01:49:39):
of our Concourse, newgate a consolidated rental car facility with
a lot of needs that are going to be coming
up in the. Future and so as we've been talking
about that, is how are we going to do this
so our airport continues to thrive well into the future
for our, community and so a lot of things to.
Explore but, LOOK i mean it's not If i'm not a.

(01:50:00):
Surprise the airport has had a big goal of trying
to do sustainable things in the. Past you, know you've
seen our solar out at the airport that there might
be one other airport that has large solar but we
have probably the largest solar arrays of any airport that
we know. Of there's you, know we do, composts and

(01:50:20):
we do all of these things to try to do
the right thing and to be as green as possible
and to reduce our carbon. Emissions but we, know you,
know we're going to have to do more in the.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Future and again this is my own personal bias coming, through.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Right so you're talking about all these things with the
solar and the green and the, whatever AND i don't
care at all about any of.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
THAT i really really.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Don't, NOW i don't want everything, dirty, Right if you
can make something cleaner for the same price or darn
close to the same, price and then that's okay with.
Me but how do you guys balance you, know These
i'll call, them you, know green goals versus versus cost
versus space usage is another. Think the solar uses a
lot of. Space how do you think about?

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
That, well the, costing let's talk about. That so for,
us in particular In, denver cost is everything for our, airlines,
right airlines really want to operate at the places that
are most cost efficient for, them and so we consider
that in every single investment we. Do because the way

(01:51:24):
our structures, work the airlines pay for a lot of
the improvements at the. Airport so we have to be
very conscious of what those fees are that we charge our.
Airports if we keep competitive low rates for our, airlines
then they in turn want to operate expand At denver
ad Flights and we're doing really great with, that. Right
that's why we have three major airline carriers hubbing out

(01:51:46):
Of denver front of Your southwest And united big. Ones
you don't see that, always you, know look At atlanta for,
example that's primarily built, us so we do. That that's
number one for. Us so first of all that we
balance that with being a good neighbor and all these
other things that we want to do to make the right.
Decisions so it's. Important but, yes we wouldn't have the

(01:52:08):
number of flights we have if it wasn't for how
we manage our finances and keep those costs.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Low all, right last quick thing going back to the
not just the nuclear, power but all the infrastructure kind
of stuff that the boss and the boss's boss are
going to talk about. Today and this is another thing
you probably don't really have the answers, to but give
me a rough sense of the kind of time frame
that you're looking to get involved with these, projects whether
it's new power, lines new whatever, infrastructure new power generation

(01:52:35):
or are we looking at three, years five, years twenty five,
years what is?

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
It, YEAH i think you know we're many years. Out
this isn't anything that would happen in the next couple of.
Years we really have to learn more about what's out
there because a lot of the technologies are fairly, new,
right a lot of proven. Stuff so as the technology
evolves and as we learn more then we can kind
of figure out a plan for. This, sure but we're

(01:53:01):
a way.

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
Out Stacey, Segman, yes go ahead and finish your.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Thoughts, yeah not twenty five, years sooner than that for,
sure but it's not going to happen in the next.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
Couple Stacy spegman is DIA's SENIOR vp Of, Communications, marketing Customer,
experience And liaisons with The Lizard.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
People thank you as, Always. Stacy great to have you
on the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
Show great, information AND i look forward to hearing more
about your press conference.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
Today Thanks. Ross All, right there you. Go hope you
found that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Interesting lizard people and nuclear power and what a, combination,
right what happens if the lizard people do get their
hands on nuclear?

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Power all, right we got just a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
LEFT i am Not, mandy and The rockies are coming
up five minutes or so more for me trying to
avoid a serious sweep by The Blue, jays WHO A
rod tells me are the best team in baseball right,
Now so let me just mention a couple other. Stories
they're has been a shooting At Fort. STEWART i don't

(01:54:02):
have a lot more. Details they have the suspect in,
custody the shooter is the SUSPECT i guess to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Call, him is a. Soldier there were five soldiers.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
SHOT i have not seen reports on whether there have
been any, fatalities So i'm going to leave it, there
And i'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
We'll get more updates on that throughout the.

Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
News so the other THING i wanted to mention to,
You Governor, polis earlier today announced that there will be
a special session of the state legislature that's going to
start on the twenty, first so that is two weeks from,
tomorrow and the purpose of that is to figure out
how to how and where to cut spending within the
state budget to offset an estimated one billion dollar reduction

(01:54:50):
in federal money coming into the state Of.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
Colorado and if you were listening to to my show, EARLIER.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
I, said, look when what's my reaction WHEN i hear
that the federal government is going to Send colorado a
billion dollars less Than colorado is going to have to cut.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Spending and my reaction, is it's a good. Start And
i'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Being, sarcastic by the, WAY i promise, You i'm not
just trying to rile somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Up we spend too much government does too.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Much colorado government has grown, much much too, fast much
faster than population has, grown and all of this deficit
spending where essentially what happens is the federal government effectively
allows the state to run an unbalanced. Budget, right the
state is supposed to run a balanced, Budget and if
the state had to RUN i had to do whatever

(01:55:37):
they're doing with the money the state takes, in they'd
have to do a lot. Less but instead what they
do is The congress critters past this stuff saying we're
going to fund this part of, education and we're going
to fund.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
That part of, crime or this part whatever the various things.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
Are and then the federal, government which doesn't take in
enough money to fund, itself just issues more debt and
sells it to whoever and burdens our children with having
to pay this debt back. Later and it effectively Allows,
colorado not Just, colorado almost every state to run.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
A budget that they shouldn't be. Running it's just as you,
think it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Immoral but in any, case we'll, see And i'm Sure
mandy will do this, too or whoever is going to
be in For mandy for the next few. Days but
on my, Show i'm going to try to get you
more information regarding just what is on the. Table right
they got to cut a billion dollars and that doesn't
even count The medicaid cuts that are coming. Later so

(01:56:43):
they got to find some real money, now and then
they got to find some real money in another couple of,
years two three years for The medicaid. Stuff and the
politics of it make Cutting medicaid a little bit. Tricky
And i'm not going to get into all the nuts
and bolts of that right, now but we.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Gotta you, know the.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Maybe apocryphal story about the bank Robber Willie, sutton when
he was asked why do you rob, banks he, said
that's where the money, is and where the money is
in The colorado budget is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Healthcare and if they're really gonna do, something.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
They're gonna probably have to look at Cutting medicaid and
maybe cutting certain quote unquote free medical services for illegal.
Aliens they always look at cutting, roads they always look
at cutting. Education and part of the reason they want
to do that is because the public hates it when
we're cutting roads and. Education so it's kind of like,

(01:57:35):
saying you, know if you make.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
Us do, this we're gonna kill, puppies and we're gonna
hurt the, veterans and we're gonna hurt the.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Kids and that's their way to threaten, people to, say
if you don't want us to start killing, puppies you
better let us raise your. Taxes so we will see
how all that. Happens but in any, case the governor
announced today that the special session will be starting two
weeks from. Tomorrow they also announced that there will be
a hiring freeze at state.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Government so there's. That and, yeah let me mention one
other thing to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
You mandy doesn't have a blog up, today So i'll
mention my website At rosskominsky dot.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
COM i post stuff there every single.

Speaker 1 (01:58:15):
DAY i hope whether you listen to my, Show, mandy
even if you don't listen to my show much and
you're more of A mandy listener or just an occasional
listener popping in from time to, TIME i hope that
you find my website useful and. INTERESTING i SPENT i
spend every day an immense amount of time putting together
stories THAT i think are, important other stories that are
less important but.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Interesting some stuff just goofy wacky.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
Fun usually try to have some videos up there as,
well SO i THOUGHT i would mention to you this
very cool. THING i posted some videos and a couple of.
Articles there is a an area off the coast of
PER i think It's, peru, right and it's called the

(01:58:59):
Marl Plata canyon and that means that means ocean of.
Silver and this is a part of the ocean there
that is about ten thousand feet. Deep and they've got these.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Robots exploring and taking these incredible pictures at depths that
no human could. Survive and they've got these amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Videos if you love ocean life, exploration all that stuff
is up there on my. Website if you go To
roskaminsky dot, com click on the, blogcast scroll all the
way down to the.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
Bottom all, right Go, rockies Beat Blue. Jays i'll talk
to you. Tomorrow