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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm so happy to welcome back to the show my good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Friend Leland Vindert.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
He is the host of On Balance on News Nation,
the best show on cable news and perhaps the fastest
growing show on cable news and well deserved. And I
want to encourage everybody to go to warnoes dot com
warnoes dot com and sign up there. Every afternoon, I
want to say five five hour three zero five hour
(00:25):
time you get Leland's it's essentially his show prep and
so you can kind of know what's going on in
his brain. And you're also going to want to get
his new book, Born Lucky, which maybe we'll talk about
in a bet. Hello, Leland, it's good to have you back.
We've missed a couple of times, so it's good to
have you here.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Ross with introductions like that, I'm always at your service.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I know you haven't heard it yet from the person
I will mention next, but how do you know that
I always like to have personal conversations with you as
as part of our as part of our stick, which
hopefully you don't get on on other radio shows.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How does it feel to be an uncle?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Even though the miniature person has not yet said uncle?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Leland?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, it is interesting that I didn't think it
would feel any different.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And I'm oddfully excited about it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So my sister, you're nice to note, had a baby
a couple of weeks ago. I get to meet him
in a couple of weeks, and you know, she face
times me often with him. And I don't know if
you saw on my Instagram, but she took the the
privilege of face timing me while I was cooking. And
so I was cooking and tasting some food, and you know,
(01:47):
it's rude to not take a FaceTime from your sister
who's a new mother, and she then proceeded to face
just take a screenshot of the FaceTime as I was
putting food in my mouth to taste it, while I
was cooking at the worst angle I've ever been photographed from,
and then posting on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So that's kind of how it feels to be a
new home.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's that's what sisters are for. Are you Are you
a frequent cook? And are you a good cook?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Never asked the chef how the cooking is.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
If I asked, if I asked your wife that question,
what would she say?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh boy, I was about to say something I shouldn't have.
Go ahead, Oh boy, that could have been bad.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
No, I think she would tell you that I have
a couple of really good staples.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That are crowd pleasers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All right, that's better than not having any.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
There you go. I mean, you only have to be
able to cook for somebody for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Good point.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So you let's let's talk about the world now. Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You've spent a lot of time on your show in
recent days talking about crime in America, Donald Trump's approach
to the issue, the use of the National Guard, both
the policy and the politics of it. And my take
has been that, you know, we can quibble about what
he's allowed to do and what he's not allowed to do,
(03:18):
but for me, I don't see any political downside for
Donald Trump to do what he's doing. So you could
touch on that a little bit. And then you spent
a bunch of time yesterday and I think you're right
talking about how Trump keeps setting traps for Democrats and
they keep walking into them, and this seems to be
one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Most Americans want to live in a safe city. Safety
both financial safety and physical safety are the two leading
thoughts for most Americans. Americans say they're either concerned about
I'm a great deal or a fair amount. So when
Donald Trump says I AM going to help fix crime
(04:05):
because your local officials have been more concerned about equity
and allowing homeless people to shoot drugs, then a lot
of Americans respond to that. Now, the far progressive left
does not. What's interesting to me is that people like JB. Pritzker,
the governor of Illinois, and others, especially Democrats on cable news,
(04:29):
seem to believe.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That if you live on the South side of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And you're living in fear every day that your eight
year old is going to get shot in a drive
by by a wayward bullet, that you care more about
the ins and outs of the constitutional law for postcommatatis
about whether or not Trump can actually call up.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The National Guard versus a governor.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Calling up the national Guard, than you do about the
fact that suddenly there's more cops on the street and
there's no longer drive bys. So that's just a reality
of what political calculation Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Making, and they can keep making it. But as somebody
who's studied this.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
For a long time and spends an awful lot of
time in this part of the world, these parts of
the world, I can tell you they're badly miscalculating.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The dot dot dot of setting.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Traps is on boys and girl sports and on immigration.
Trump is taking the eighty percent side of an eighty
twenty issue.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And because Democrats.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Hate Trump so much, especially sort of democratic the Democratic
elite and leaders and cable TV hosts and activist class,
they will immediately take the other side. No boys in
girl sports, there must be boys and girls sports. Let's
close the border. No, the border must stay open. It's
(06:00):
it's evil and Nazi liked to close the border. Let's
support illegal aliens who commit crimes. No, this is the
Gestapo rounding up people reflexively. They are made to say
things that the rest of America just doesn't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Reminds me a little bit, I'm gonna tell you a
dumb story. Reminds me a little bit of a thing
I used to do with my older kid when he
was maybe four years old, because at some point, people
like to argue just for the sake of being just
for the sake of arguing. So you are well aware, Leland,
because you were on TV in Denver for quite some time.
You are well aware of the Colorado School of Mines,
(06:39):
and we used to live not too far from there,
and I would do this thing, and without fail, it
always worked. We would be driving down Highway ninety three
in Golden and I'd see the school over there, and
I'd say to my kid.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Look, it's Minds.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And then my kid, thinking I was like being possessive
about it rather than just saying the name because my
kid didn't know a kid was four, would.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Say, no, it's Mines. Just wanting to argue.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And it feels like that with Democrats, like how they've gotten.
Don't they have to know they're stepping into a trap.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I think they do, but I think they realize.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't know if you can say they can't help themselves.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think the flip side, though, is number one is
the activist class requires it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So for somebody like JB.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Pritzker, who so badly wants to be president, it's the
only way to get attention. Right, if you are even
a moderate Democrat saying hey, look I want to work
with Donald Trump on these issues, not only don't you
get attention, you are scorned for it, right, an outcast
for it. So that's part of the issue, the other
(07:51):
part of the issue. And I thought Brandon Johnson, who's
the mayor of Chicago and has an approval rating somewhere
well below freezing and oftentimes in single digits, which you
really have to work at to be that bad of
a mayor in Chicago. But he said something when asked
by Joe Scarborough, don't you think five thousand police would help?
(08:14):
He kept saying, what would help more is free housing.
And it is this belief by progressive Americans that has
now sort of become orthodoxy for a large group of
the activist class of the left that the problem in
America is that people haven't been given more free stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And if you just give people more free stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That is going to solve the problems in America for
America's less fortunate, poor minority communities. Now we can keep
going down that route. In that route leads to one
of three places, Caracas, Venezuela, Havana, Cuba, or Moscow in Russia.
Now that's just the way life is. But I think
(09:01):
it really shows.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Truly where their heart is right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I'll just say to listeners, I'm gonna kind of
answer my own question a little bit what I pose
to Leland. It's really important to remember who the audience
is for these things. And a lot of times I
tell my listeners, you'll hear a Democrat say something that
normal people would think is pretty outrageous. And what I
remind listeners of is this is a Democrat who needs
to run in a Democrat primary, and even if it's statewide.
(09:30):
Here in Colorado, we're a blue state now and they
can almost take the general election for granted. So they're
focused on the primary and they can't. They don't want
to be outflanked to their left. So a thing that
you and I that normal people might think is I
think is a dumb thing to say, or an offensive
thing to say, or or a political loser in the
audience that it's really aimed at as.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Not a political loser. And even Brandon.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Johnson, I, well, Chicago and Illinois are never going to
go for Trump. They're never going to never, but no
time is soon going to vote for Republicans. So I
actually I think Trump is setting the trap. But I
don't think that his actual target audience is the people
of Chicago or the people of Illinois. It's the people
of some swing state who you know, which could go
one percent or another to a Republican or Democrat, and
(10:16):
those are the people he's trying to remind how crazy
Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
In Look, Donald Trump right now isn't running for president.
He's not going to run for president again, but he
realizes that when his.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Political opponents are losing their.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Mind over.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Lowering crime, they're not fighting and they're not talking about
areas where he and Republicans are really vulnerable right now.
And we've done it on the show now every night
for the past four or five nights, and it is
rated really well, which is high.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Prices, yep, prices are.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Still high, and that's still going to become a real
and growing problem for Trump well.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
As you as you noted, people care about financial safety
and physical safety, and right now they don't feel too
great about their financial safety. And my estimation is that
many of Trump's economic policies, or a couple of big
economic policies, the tariffs and the very aggressive immigration stuff,
are both gonna make at least groceries and plenty of
(11:21):
other things more expensive as well. So maybe he needs
to divert attention away from that stuff. I want to
switch gears with you, and for those just joining we're
talking with Leland Vidder, you should watch his show on
Balance on News Nation every night at seven pm Mountain time,
and it plays again at ten pm Mountain time, and
you should absolutely DVR it if you can't watch it
(11:43):
on time.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Also, the link for his.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
New book that's going to be released soon is born
luckybook dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You gotta go get that as well.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So you and I normally agree most of the time,
I think I'm gonna maybe make an explicit effort to
disagree with you, just because it's fun, but also because
I think we might disagree.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The cracker barrel thing.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You were talking on your show last night about cracker
barrel wokeness, and my problem with that line of thought,
and then you can tell me why I'm wrong, is
that the people who have been complaining for days and
days now about the logo and maybe the interior design
change didn't know about any of that, and they called
(12:31):
the logo change woke where I call it a company
whose share prices dropped from one hundred and seventy five
to fifty something, who's struggling trying to find a way
to make their brand better. And I feel like the
conservative outrage against the logo, which is really what this was,
and now they're coming up with a pretext later. Oh
see they're woke. But you can't do that. I think
(12:55):
the people who were mad about the logo need to
get a life and I'm not down with any of it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well, fine, you don't have to be down with it.
You don't have to eat a Cracker barrel. The point
was that when Cracker Barrel decided to make a logo change,
they didn't lean into what was working for Cracker Barrel
and why people went to Cracker Barrel because of the
feeling and the nostalgia that it brought up. It is
(13:26):
not a mistake, Okay, when you look at the board
of Cracker Barrel, you look at what they have championed,
and then you realize that they take the old timer
and the barrel off of the Cracker Barrel. So it
was clear what they were doing and what they thought
was important. So I think it's just the world we
(13:48):
live in right now that when you cater to rule
mostly older, traditional value Americans, and you try to stell
a brand based on nostalgia, and then you get rid
of the nostalgia, you don't have anything left to sell.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and I'm not saying I thought that was a
great move, but I thought all the hype about how
they're so woke, which may in retrospect end up being true,
but they didn't know that at the time, was just
people looking to be angry in kind of the same
way that the Cancel Culture people did several years ago
when conservatives criticized those cancel culture people rightly, And now
they're behaving the same way, and that bugs me. All right,
(14:25):
let's move on. We just have a couple of minutes left.
Tell me something that we have not yet talked about
that you were going to talk about on your show tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, we've got.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Peter navarrowan to talk about the issue that you just
brought up about high prices, And the second thing we're
going to talk about that I think is interesting is
that there is this enormous attempt to paint Donald Trump
as somehow out of the Overton window, out of the
norm of presidents in terms of what.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
He's doing and how he's acting.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And it got me thinking, I'm old enough to remember
when Barack Obama tried to unilaterally legalize hundreds of thousands
of people who were here illegally.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
They were called dreamers.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And I'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden tried
to unilaterally impose a vaccine mandate on private employers. And
I'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden tried to
unilaterally relieve, extinguish, forgive, whatever you want to call it,
billions of dollars in debt that was owed to the
American taxpayer, and nobody called them king and nobody said
(15:30):
they're being dictators. So I'm just curious as to why,
effectively the same kind of behavior by Donald Trump is
somehow any different.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think Trump is slightly different in quantity, but not
that different in quality. People talk about him as if
he's qualitatively different, and he isn't. And I got a
thing from a listener about this last night, and I said,
part of the problem this has been going on for
many years now, this is not new to now, is
that we have had supine congresses, where when the majority
(16:09):
party in Congress is the same party as the party
of the president, they don't do anything to protect the
prerogatives and the powers of Congress. And they have let
one president after another accumulate power in the executive branch,
and now all presidents think, well, we've got this power,
and I place a lot of the blame on Congress.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'll give you the last word. Preach very good, folks.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
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Speaker 2 (16:44):
Not one of these things that gets mixed in.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
To all your crazy email deluge in the morning. The
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I'm so happy to welcome back to the show my good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Friend Leland Vindert.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
He is the host of On Balance on News Nation,
the best show on cable news and perhaps the fastest
growing show on cable news and well deserved. And I
want to encourage everybody to go to warnoes dot com
warnoes dot com and sign up there. Every afternoon, I
want to say five five hour three zero five hour
(00:25):
time you get Leland's it's essentially his show prep and
so you can kind of know what's going on in
his brain. And you're also going to want to get
his new book, Born Lucky, which maybe we'll talk about
in a bet. Hello, Leland, it's good to have you back.
We've missed a couple of times, so it's good to
have you here.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Ross with introductions like that, I'm always at your service.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I know you haven't heard it yet from the person
I will mention next, but how do you know that
I always like to have personal conversations with you as
as part of our as part of our stick, which
hopefully you don't get on on other radio shows.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
How does it feel to be an uncle?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Even though the miniature person has not yet said uncle?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Leland?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, it is interesting that I didn't think it
would feel any different.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And I'm oddfully excited about it.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So my sister, you're nice to note, had a baby
a couple of weeks ago. I get to meet him
in a couple of weeks, and you know, she face
times me often with him. And I don't know if
you saw on my Instagram, but she took the the
privilege of face timing me while I was cooking. And
so I was cooking and tasting some food, and you know,
(01:47):
it's rude to not take a FaceTime from your sister
who's a new mother, and she then proceeded to face
just take a screenshot of the FaceTime as I was
putting food in my mouth to taste it, while I
was cooking at the worst angle I've ever been photographed from,
and then posting on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So that's kind of how it feels to be a
new home.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's that's what sisters are for. Are you Are you
a frequent cook? And are you a good cook?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Never asked the chef how the cooking is.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
If I asked, if I asked your wife that question,
what would she say?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Oh boy, I was about to say something I shouldn't have.
Go ahead, Oh boy, that could have been bad.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
No, I think she would tell you that I have
a couple of really good staples.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
That are crowd pleasers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
All right, that's better than not having any.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
There you go. I mean, you only have to be
able to cook for somebody for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Good point.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So you let's let's talk about the world now. Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You've spent a lot of time on your show in
recent days talking about crime in America, Donald Trump's approach
to the issue, the use of the National Guard, both
the policy and the politics of it. And my take
has been that, you know, we can quibble about what
he's allowed to do and what he's not allowed to do,
(03:18):
but for me, I don't see any political downside for
Donald Trump to do what he's doing. So you could
touch on that a little bit. And then you spent
a bunch of time yesterday and I think you're right
talking about how Trump keeps setting traps for Democrats and
they keep walking into them, and this seems to be
one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Most Americans want to live in a safe city. Safety
both financial safety and physical safety are the two leading
thoughts for most Americans. Americans say they're either concerned about
I'm a great deal or a fair amount. So when
Donald Trump says I AM going to help fix crime
(04:05):
because your local officials have been more concerned about equity
and allowing homeless people to shoot drugs, then a lot
of Americans respond to that. Now, the far progressive left
does not. What's interesting to me is that people like JB. Pritzker,
the governor of Illinois, and others, especially Democrats on cable news,
(04:29):
seem to believe.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That if you live on the South side of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
And you're living in fear every day that your eight
year old is going to get shot in a drive
by by a wayward bullet, that you care more about
the ins and outs of the constitutional law for postcommatatis
about whether or not Trump can actually call up.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The National Guard versus a governor.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Calling up the national Guard, than you do about the
fact that suddenly there's more cops on the street and
there's no longer drive bys. So that's just a reality
of what political calculation Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Making, and they can keep making it. But as somebody
who's studied this.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
For a long time and spends an awful lot of
time in this part of the world, these parts of
the world, I can tell you they're badly miscalculating.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The dot dot dot of setting.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Traps is on boys and girl sports and on immigration.
Trump is taking the eighty percent side of an eighty
twenty issue.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And because Democrats.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Hate Trump so much, especially sort of democratic the Democratic
elite and leaders and cable TV hosts and activist class,
they will immediately take the other side. No boys in
girl sports, there must be boys and girls sports. Let's
close the border. No, the border must stay open. It's
(06:00):
it's evil and Nazi liked to close the border. Let's
support illegal aliens who commit crimes. No, this is the
Gestapo rounding up people reflexively. They are made to say
things that the rest of America just doesn't believe.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Reminds me a little bit, I'm gonna tell you a
dumb story. Reminds me a little bit of a thing
I used to do with my older kid when he
was maybe four years old, because at some point, people
like to argue just for the sake of being just
for the sake of arguing. So you are well aware, Leland,
because you were on TV in Denver for quite some time.
You are well aware of the Colorado School of Mines,
(06:39):
and we used to live not too far from there,
and I would do this thing, and without fail, it
always worked. We would be driving down Highway ninety three
in Golden and I'd see the school over there, and
I'd say to my kid.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Look, it's Minds.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And then my kid, thinking I was like being possessive
about it rather than just saying the name because my
kid didn't know a kid was four, would.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Say, no, it's Mines. Just wanting to argue.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And it feels like that with Democrats, like how they've gotten.
Don't they have to know they're stepping into a trap.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, I think they do, but I think they realize.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I don't know if you can say they can't help themselves.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think the flip side, though, is number one is
the activist class requires it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So for somebody like JB.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Pritzker, who so badly wants to be president, it's the
only way to get attention. Right, if you are even
a moderate Democrat saying hey, look I want to work
with Donald Trump on these issues, not only don't you
get attention, you are scorned for it, right, an outcast
for it. So that's part of the issue, the other
(07:51):
part of the issue. And I thought Brandon Johnson, who's
the mayor of Chicago and has an approval rating somewhere
well below freezing and oftentimes in single digits, which you
really have to work at to be that bad of
a mayor in Chicago. But he said something when asked
by Joe Scarborough, don't you think five thousand police would help?
(08:14):
He kept saying, what would help more is free housing.
And it is this belief by progressive Americans that has
now sort of become orthodoxy for a large group of
the activist class of the left that the problem in
America is that people haven't been given more free stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And if you just give people more free stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That is going to solve the problems in America for
America's less fortunate, poor minority communities. Now we can keep
going down that route. In that route leads to one
of three places, Caracas, Venezuela, Havana, Cuba, or Moscow in Russia.
Now that's just the way life is. But I think
(09:01):
it really shows.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Truly where their heart is right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I'll just say to listeners, I'm gonna kind of
answer my own question a little bit what I pose
to Leland. It's really important to remember who the audience
is for these things. And a lot of times I
tell my listeners, you'll hear a Democrat say something that
normal people would think is pretty outrageous. And what I
remind listeners of is this is a Democrat who needs
to run in a Democrat primary, and even if it's statewide.
(09:30):
Here in Colorado, we're a blue state now and they
can almost take the general election for granted. So they're
focused on the primary and they can't. They don't want
to be outflanked to their left. So a thing that
you and I that normal people might think is I
think is a dumb thing to say, or an offensive
thing to say, or or a political loser in the
audience that it's really aimed at as.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Not a political loser. And even Brandon.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Johnson, I, well, Chicago and Illinois are never going to
go for Trump. They're never going to never, but no
time is soon going to vote for Republicans. So I
actually I think Trump is setting the trap. But I
don't think that his actual target audience is the people
of Chicago or the people of Illinois. It's the people
of some swing state who you know, which could go
one percent or another to a Republican or Democrat, and
(10:16):
those are the people he's trying to remind how crazy
Democrats are.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
In Look, Donald Trump right now isn't running for president.
He's not going to run for president again, but he
realizes that when his.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Political opponents are losing their.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Mind over.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Lowering crime, they're not fighting and they're not talking about
areas where he and Republicans are really vulnerable right now.
And we've done it on the show now every night
for the past four or five nights, and it is
rated really well, which is high.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Prices, yep, prices are.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Still high, and that's still going to become a real
and growing problem for Trump well.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
As you as you noted, people care about financial safety
and physical safety, and right now they don't feel too
great about their financial safety. And my estimation is that
many of Trump's economic policies, or a couple of big
economic policies, the tariffs and the very aggressive immigration stuff,
are both gonna make at least groceries and plenty of
(11:21):
other things more expensive as well. So maybe he needs
to divert attention away from that stuff. I want to
switch gears with you, and for those just joining we're
talking with Leland Vidder, you should watch his show on
Balance on News Nation every night at seven pm Mountain time,
and it plays again at ten pm Mountain time, and
you should absolutely DVR it if you can't watch it
(11:43):
on time.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Also, the link for his.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
New book that's going to be released soon is born
luckybook dot com.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You gotta go get that as well.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So you and I normally agree most of the time,
I think I'm gonna maybe make an explicit effort to
disagree with you, just because it's fun, but also because
I think we might disagree.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The cracker barrel thing.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
You were talking on your show last night about cracker
barrel wokeness, and my problem with that line of thought,
and then you can tell me why I'm wrong, is
that the people who have been complaining for days and
days now about the logo and maybe the interior design
change didn't know about any of that, and they called
(12:31):
the logo change woke where I call it a company
whose share prices dropped from one hundred and seventy five
to fifty something, who's struggling trying to find a way
to make their brand better. And I feel like the
conservative outrage against the logo, which is really what this was,
and now they're coming up with a pretext later. Oh
see they're woke. But you can't do that. I think
(12:55):
the people who were mad about the logo need to
get a life and I'm not down with any of it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well, fine, you don't have to be down with it.
You don't have to eat a Cracker barrel. The point
was that when Cracker Barrel decided to make a logo change,
they didn't lean into what was working for Cracker Barrel
and why people went to Cracker Barrel because of the
feeling and the nostalgia that it brought up. It is
(13:26):
not a mistake, Okay, when you look at the board
of Cracker Barrel, you look at what they have championed,
and then you realize that they take the old timer
and the barrel off of the Cracker Barrel. So it
was clear what they were doing and what they thought
was important. So I think it's just the world we
(13:48):
live in right now that when you cater to rule
mostly older, traditional value Americans, and you try to stell
a brand based on nostalgia, and then you get rid
of the nostalgia, you don't have anything left to sell.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and I'm not saying I thought that was a
great move, but I thought all the hype about how
they're so woke, which may in retrospect end up being true,
but they didn't know that at the time, was just
people looking to be angry in kind of the same
way that the Cancel Culture people did several years ago
when conservatives criticized those cancel culture people rightly, And now
they're behaving the same way, and that bugs me. All right,
(14:25):
let's move on. We just have a couple of minutes left.
Tell me something that we have not yet talked about
that you were going to talk about on your show tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, we've got.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Peter navarrowan to talk about the issue that you just
brought up about high prices, And the second thing we're
going to talk about that I think is interesting is
that there is this enormous attempt to paint Donald Trump
as somehow out of the Overton window, out of the
norm of presidents in terms of what.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
He's doing and how he's acting.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And it got me thinking, I'm old enough to remember
when Barack Obama tried to unilaterally legalize hundreds of thousands
of people who were here illegally.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
They were called dreamers.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
And I'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden tried
to unilaterally impose a vaccine mandate on private employers. And
I'm old enough to remember when Joe Biden tried to
unilaterally relieve, extinguish, forgive, whatever you want to call it,
billions of dollars in debt that was owed to the
American taxpayer, and nobody called them king and nobody said
(15:30):
they're being dictators. So I'm just curious as to why,
effectively the same kind of behavior by Donald Trump is
somehow any different.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think Trump is slightly different in quantity, but not
that different in quality. People talk about him as if
he's qualitatively different, and he isn't. And I got a
thing from a listener about this last night, and I said,
part of the problem this has been going on for
many years now, this is not new to now, is
that we have had supine congresses, where when the majority
(16:09):
party in Congress is the same party as the party
of the president, they don't do anything to protect the
prerogatives and the powers of Congress. And they have let
one president after another accumulate power in the executive branch,
and now all presidents think, well, we've got this power,
and I place a lot of the blame on Congress.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'll give you the last word. Preach very good, folks.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Go to warnoes dot com and sign up for Leland's
fantastic daily email. One of the things I love about
it I always mentioned this it comes in the afternoon,
so it's.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Not one of these things that gets mixed in.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
To all your crazy email deluge in the morning. The
link for his new book, which is called Born Lucky.
The link is Born luckybook dot com.
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