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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just one of the most interesting people and unbelievably funny
as well. I've seen I've seen Kevin two or three
times at Comedy Works. I think I've only seen you
at the Downtown Club. I don't know if you've played
this club, but I think every time I've seen you
has been Downtown, including opening for Craig Ferguson, which was
just unbelievable. And and Kevin is doing his He's He's
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the headliner this Sunday evening at seven pm at Comedy
Works Downtown in Larimer Squares. You can go to Comedyworks
dot com for tickets to see that, and I will
have a couple of pairs of tickets to actually give
away here in a little bit before the end of
the show. And Kevin has a new book. It started
with a turtle, and you might want to remember that.
Actually that's just a hint. You might want to remember
that it started with a turtle. Kevin, thanks for joining
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in studio. Thanks for bringing me this signed book. It's fantastic.
I've actually read a bunch of the book already. And dude,
what an interesting life.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, if you live long enough for us, you can
do things, you know and if you don't get married,
you know, you could say you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Never got married. Huh. I didn't, Mark.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I didn't mean to be an old bachelor, you know,
but that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
There.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
There are just so many stories I want to I
want to talk to you about. I think I guess
I'll start with something that everybody always wants to talk
to you about. We'll do it briefly, and then we'll
talk about other things. But your career is a bouncer,
including bouncing for the Rolling Stones and the Who and
so on. And by the way, I'm not going to
talk about this a lot, but I had I had
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a nightclub in Chicago with a couple other folks and
the Rolling Stones came to.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
My club and I was singing with jim Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So it's like almost kind of sort of tiny bit
close to some of the stuff you did, except I
was never big enough to be a bouncer.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
How did you become a bouncer?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And when you were singing with you know, I could
I could cure cancer. Anybody want to know is what
was it like to work for the Rolling Stone? H
But I just I'm a dead of a guy, and
and uh, you know, I I worked uh for Chuck
Morris and Barry Faye. You know, we did security and
and uh it works in the door with the sink.
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For Chuck, he said, I'm gonna give you a buck
thirty nine an hour and a hamburger every shift. Are
you're gonna meet more girls in Frank Sinatra, you know.
So then we moved down to toe Loggi's, then to
Ebitsfield with Barry and and then they started doing tours
and then then oh, I got a guy that's pretty
good at security, and he's you know, not a total knucklehead,
and we'll send you off. And so the first one
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they ever did was h was Herb Albert and the
Tijuana Breath. They didn't need much bouncing, but but you know,
and then the Flying Bridal Brothers and the different things
that we did that they did, and and they got
into management of some of the bands and some of
the tours and and you know, in the in the
beginning tours were every city had its own promoter. So
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there was you know, there was a brutal thing in
in the in the settlement room every night, you know,
about in the accounting room about how many bus were
in seats and then Barry, listen, I'm gonna sell every
ticket in the United States. Okay, don't worry. They'll just
be one accounting, one thing. And then tours became. It
became in the beginning was maybe more fun. It was
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the seat of the pants. You know, you didn't know
what happened. Yeah, you know, I remember working for the
Brito Brothers and asking Chris Hillman, how do I eat?
You know, they didn't have a per diemer and he goes, oh,
you just just I don't know, just just charge things.
And so the charges must still be going through. You know,
your your eighteen year old bouncer. You look at the menu.
Let's say that surfing turf. What's that? That sounds pretty good? Oh,
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they surve pie? Can I get a whole pie?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know, I just like put it on their bill?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, yeah, and so and so.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Then then it became like, oh, wait a minute, wait
a minute, you're gonna get a twenty five dollars, you know,
a lunch thing, you got a dinner thing, and you
know in the in the hospitality room, there's food at
the show, so he eat there. But so, you know,
but being a little boy from Denmer and getting to
be on a rock and roll tour, running away with
the circus, you know. And the music was great, you
know what I mean. I never got to play an instument.
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I'd rather sing than eat. Most people rather hear me eat,
you know. But so I think that uh, you know,
to be to be close to it, you know, that close.
And and it was amazing. And Keith Richies always said
they asked him who's the best band in the world,
and he said, whoever's playing live tonight? You hear that
ross like live music. There's something about it. There is
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it's it's it doesn't come across on the record, you know,
the sweaty place and the drum hitting in the chest
and watching the you know, the the drummer sweat and
trying to keep up with the singer, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
And and yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Live music is the best, except for Neil Young. Live
music is the is the best.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Dragon And I had the misfortune of going to Neil
Young on Monday night, and we sent ourselves there because
it's a running thing on the show how much I
don't like Neil Young. And I have to say I
said this before, like, you know, I was really worried
that the concert would be bad. And we got there
and we went and it was. It was worse. So
but I love the concerts, I just I do.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I love like what I did to Neil Young too,
I bet you would, and the one and said, uh
we went. We went and uh we just had come
off of Stones store anyway, we went and uh we
sat down, everybody sat down, his management people and and
I'm Barry and and he said, Kevin's gonna come and
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and he said, who's the opening act? And he said,
you're not having an opening act. He's just going to
be a piano and a guitar. It's going to be
an acoustic thing. But we found a comic in Santa Cruz.
He's going to be the opening act.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It was Robin Williams, oh before Windy, and it was
it was so incredible.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Wow, he was he was on all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was like, you know, you're eating dinner with him
and you it was like, you know, hey, you don't
have to you know, I'm just eating a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You don't have to tell me. But he was cold.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You tell something's going to happen. Yeah, but uh yeah,
I think you know, it's some some if you go
in with a preconceived notion. But uh, if you don't
like a band, you know, I just you know, I
listen to the country if I'm being ununished.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
You all right, one more we I got so many
things I want to talk to about. Only one more
rolling stones thing. But it's not probably the usual kind
of rolling stones question, you get. I love the story
about Keith Richards's influence on the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well, a lot of the bands were, you know, haphazard
and stuff. The stones are so organized and nothing happens
by accident, you know, and they wouldn't still be doing
it if they had been you know, you know, a
slipshod thing. And so he's he's he's like the hippest.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Guy in the world.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
And if he says something, he listened, you know, and
he said, you know, what are you doing? I can't
be doing this. He was in charge of the bouncers,
and he goes, why don't you go to school? You
know you've been with us, you know the sixteen nine,
seventy two, seventy five, seventy eight. What are you gonna do?
You can't be a bouncer when you're fifty, you know,
so you know I'll help you. So he wrote my letter,
you know, for things, he wrote.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You a recommendation letter for veterinarians.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
School esprobably on a wall someplace, you know. Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But I mean he's the kindest guy in the world,
you know. And then you get to see him later
and he goes, you know, I got him into Vesico.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
He remembers that, Sure, when's the last time you talked
with him?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
The last time I talked to him was one of
the last times they were here. I got to have
supper with him, and I asked him, I said, how
long can it go on? You know, how long can
you do it? And he goes, you know, as long
as we're not just like a caricature of ourselves, you know,
and we got more to do, he goes, But he goes,
the blues guys played into their eighties. Sure, yeah, yeah,
so he said, why couldn't we do that?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah? Right, and then they actually those guys have a
lot of blues influence in there and their early backgrounds too.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
We're talking with with doctor Kevin Fitzgerald, and he's got
just so much fun. His new book is called It
Started with a turtle. His first pet, a turtle. I
don't know if we'll get to that story, but you
can buy the book and started with a turtle and
read the turtle story. And he's playing Sunday night at
seven pm at Comedy Works Downtown at Larimer Square. Comedyworks
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dot com for tickets, and I'll have some tickets to
give away in a in a few minutes as well.
I love this bit. I don't think i'll read from
the book. I'll just mention and then you can go. So, uh,
I'm Jewish. I always go to a Chinese restaurant on Christmas.
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And early in your book, had mel too. Early in
your book you talk about your best friend growing up
was a Jewish kid. Uh, So just take the story
wherever you want to take it with. You know, your
best friend growing up being a Jewish kid.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
My bes one was was was Earl Stein and still is.
And you know, Earl is the best guy ever. And
so his father would cook, you know, and make these
Jewish dishes. And he yelled out the back door boys,
Papa's made a kishka. So we went and it's kind
of like a Jewish breader. It's kind of horrible. It's
got all this stuff and guts and stuff and meets
and wherever they call it, right brain where we brain,
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trifle and wherever they call it. And so it is Intestine.
So geez, you know. So I went back home, and
you know, my father heard him meal out the back door.
He goes, why did mister Steyn announce the dad a
bowel movement? I go, no, no, he made a keisha?
Did so in our family? If you have to go
to the John, you say, I gotta make a keisha,
you know. But the thing about the Jewish people, and
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I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood here in Denver,
and on Christmas, everybody went to the Chinese restaurants, and right,
my Irish people, my Irish parents, they.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Never had Irish food, you know, Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
So we we finally went to a place and my
father was in and he goes, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
These Hebrews they're onto something. This is this is great,
this is great food.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did your dad have an Irish accent?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Well, yeah, little bit. Yeah, they're they're Irish people, you know.
So yeah, they were nice.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Were they were What generation of your family was born
in Ireland? Well, my parents and yeah, oh yeah, wow, okay,
so your first generation born born here. Let's talk about
animals a little bit. I liked this ice bear chapter,
all right, And obviously, and I didn't mention this when
I talking about Kevin a moment ago. But you know,
he's been a veterinarian for how many years? Forty three?
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Forty three years at the same practice.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's hard to say. People don't retire in the same
jersey anymore. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, I'll a media east.
You know where I cut my teeth, you know, unbelievable
twenty four hour place we see river the streets of
dem can throw up at us.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, you ever have you ever worked on a sugar glider?
Used to have one.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
They were so popular right early. You know, whenever I
have one, it's probably when they were popular. Things go
in fads, you know. Yeah, remember pipelly pigs. Early I
had one of those two, and then women came with
a pipelin. He makes a pretty good pet. But who
what a smell? Well, he's a pig in your living room? Yeah, no,
I had one.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So I lived in a I lived in a high
rise building where you weren't allowed to have cats or dogs.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
So I figured out right, I'll get a pig.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
There didn't seem to be.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
A rule about that.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
And so and I named him, and I named him
Peter Paul Rubens because he had kind of a Rubenesque
figure about him, with that big old pot beelly going on.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So tell me about but you've done.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Separate from being in your practice and taking care of
animals on a day to day basis, you go out
in the world and you've done a lot of conservation
kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I've been really lucky. I think, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I was against you know when I first got a
fiscal animals and cages and stuff in zoos. But I
grew up here going to the Denver Zoo and a
wonderful place. And until I realized that more children visit
the Denver Zoo every year, you know. Then go to
the Broncos, Avalanche, Rockies and Nuggets combined two point three
million kids in there. So these little minds get turned
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on and on for conservation.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
The ross.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There's ten million other forms of life on the planet
besides us and all these other animals. We were given
this wonderful biodiversity intellect, and all the other animals are
waiting for us. To use our intellect and save the place.
But I'm optimistic. You know, it's working with young people,
working with children. You're going to be conscious about it,
you know, And so you know it's the one we
have to win, you know, we have to. We can't
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lose this thing, and we can't. I would hate for
your grandchildren to only be able to see a polar
bear in a book, you know those types of things.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Tell me a little about your polar bear experience.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, I was really lucky in it, doctor Dave Kenny,
you know, with the Godfather as Klondike and Snow and
the polar bears that were born here in Shanna, the city,
the little baby bears, And so he did some things
with up to northern Canada, and I got to go
with him, and then later with the North American Veteran
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Convention Society and and and putting radio transmitters in some
and releasing them and they break into the town and
they grab them and sedateum. And then we put in
a transmitter and then you can follow him and see
how far they go and range. And it'd be a
little boy from them would be standing next to a
sedated polar bear.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, and you did what ten years on on TV?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We did eleven seasons eleven years on Animal Planet. Know,
we had we had emergency vets and and so it
was a very beginning an Animal Animal Planet when it's
spun out of Discovery and and so you know, we
were the only other show on with a crocodile hunter,
you know. And and he was incredible in the night
that he was showing we were showing our pilot to
the network executives.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
He was showing his pilot.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
His pilot was him and his wife in the darkest
marsh of Australia snagging crocodiles and throwing the back of
the boat.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And the way he started was he pushed his wife
out of the boat into the water.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Crocs are attracted vibrations, using me wife as a decoy,
and you.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Know, and then using your wife as a decoy.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Unbelievable. Did you meet him a bit, Oh yeah, yeah,
he seems like very interesting.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Steve every when.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He came in filmed Rattlesnake study for his show, and
it was two weeks before he was killed. And if
he would have lived, what he could have done for
because you know, we weren't given you know, this, this uh,
this wonderful world. You know, we borrowed it from our grandchildren.
And you know, when a species becomes extinctive, world becomes
a less interesting place