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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mention this every time because I never fail to
read Leland's war Notes that come out in the afternoon,
which I like because I get bombarded with stuff in
the morning, so I like getting the afternoon email. If
you go to war notes dot com, you can sign
up for Leland's daily email, which is basically his show prep,
and you'll kind of see what's in his brain.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And then the other thing I'll mention before we.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Own before yeah, before we start a conversation. The other
thing I'll mention is his book Born Lucky, a remarkable
book that we'll talk about a little this time and
then more next time I have him on the show.
But you can get started with the pre order at
Born luckybook dot com. All right, Leland, it's been a
busy week. It's good to have you back. Thanks for
making time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Always good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Ross, And you were looking because my video disappeared for
a minute. Ross always makes you connect with a video link,
and he got very nervous because I was my video disappeared.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But I am here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
For you, all right, very good. A nice flag on
the wall behind you wherever you are. Before before we
jump into the heavy stuff, you went to your sister
in law's wedding that brought you to Colorado. How was Colorado?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Colorado is always where my heart will be.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I spent three years here and it was the best
three years of my life there in Colorado, and was
up in Aspen for my sister in law's wedding and
was reminded how the mountains are renewing to us and
how they bring you back to what matters, which was
(01:38):
one of the just wonderful moments of the summer was
to be there with them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I share that you and I have both lived in
Chicago and either in or near DC, and I'm very
happy living here, and hopefully one day you'll be able
to move back here when you're profession or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
When I got my job, I was an angry at
KATIEVR for three years, and when I got a job
to move overseas with Fox News, the person who I
worked for said, congratulations on your new job.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You are now cursed because.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You are going to spend the rest of your life
trying to figure out how to get back to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And he was right, very good.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
All right, So I talk to you about every two
weeks on the show, and just in the way the
world works, and especially the rapid news cycle and so on,
it's pretty rare that other than war, the same thing
is really the central topic of conversation. You know, two
weeks later we're just constantly moving on. But last time
(02:36):
I talked to you, the primary topic of our conversation
was crime, and now it clearly still is. And this
horrific killing of this innocent young girl, young lady, whatever
you want to call her in Charlotte Arena. I saw
some stuff on your show last night that I wrote
(02:58):
about this morning, and you read all that. But you've
been talking a lot about crime in the macro, and
I'd like you to just talk for a minute about
how you think this particular terrible murder maybe or may
already be an important thing in the national conversation, maybe
(03:21):
even a thing that changes elections, as you were talking
about with Mark Helper and yesterday on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
There are inflection moments in our life that we look
back on and say that was a moment the conversation changed,
And lately it's been because of an image, right it was.
Rodney King was an example, the march on the Selma
Bridge as an example.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
George Floyd was an example.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Because you couldn't unsee what was happening, and it required
a conversation about something that existed for a long time,
and then all of a sudden, that image is something
that people realized was capturing this much larger issue that
had been festering and building.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And the image of.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Arina Jeruska having her throat slashed and then sitting there
and grabbing her throat as no one on the train
did anything, and realizing she was dying, and this man
walking out saying I got the white girl. You see
that image, and it is the personification of a fear
(04:32):
of a huge number of Americans, a huge number of
American women who feel as though they are a waiting
to be victims and b have been bullied into silence
about who is committing the vast, vast majority of violent
(04:55):
crimes in America. And if we want to have honest
conversations about how to solve problem, we have to have
honest conversations about what the problem is and who is
perpetrating the crimes. After nine to eleven, the threat was
from Islamic terrorism. There were not a lot of Grandmother's
hijacking planes the statistic I have seen is that fifty percent,
(05:18):
a little bit more than fifty percent of the murders
in America and the vast majority of non relationship murders
in America, meaning unknown killer to the victim, are committed
by young blackmales, which to the time the victims are
other young blacks. And if we are going in the
(05:38):
vast majority of these people have already had run into
the law. Lots of them have multiple felony arrests but
have been let out because of cashlest bail policies. There
is no other way to get a handle on violent
crime in America than reversing the policies that have allowed
these people to be on the streets as they did
(06:00):
with the case in Charlotte. This is somebody who buy
any objective measure. But for all of the changes after
George Floyd should have been in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So prior to watching your show last night, I had
only seen video and still photos up until the moment
just before.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Irena got stabbed.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Right like the last still and the last piece of
video was a terrifying image of the killer with his
hand up in the air about to stab her, like
you might see in a slasher movie.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And that's horrific enough.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I hadn't seen anything after that until I saw your
show last night. And on your show last night, I
saw a couple of still pictures from after. I had
imagined her sort of immediately dead, which already would be
bad enough, but she wasn't immediately dead. She was sitting there,
as you said, with with her hand on her throat.
And you know, listeners, you can't see Leland, but as
(07:05):
he was talking about it, he put his hand on
his throat. I don't know, Leland, I don't even know
if you noticed that you did that. And and she's
there with this look of astonishment and bewilderment, and what
the bleep just happened? As she's slowly dying, and the
people around her, not all many of the people around
(07:26):
her get up and walk by her to get her
without offering any help, and this whole dude, I had
to turn away from the screen as I was watching
your show, just from the still picture because of after
the mock me crushed. And that is the issue, right,
is that we want to turn away. And I hate
doing media.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Commentary, but we all know that if it had been
a black woman and a white assailant. That video would
be playing on repeat on every single network morning show
and every single social media channel, and we would be
having national conversations on and on and on and on
and on. But because the race is reversed, we are not.
(08:07):
And it is so easy to look away. It is
so easy not to think that that could be my wife,
your wife, your daughter, your your friend, any of us.
And people wonder why Donald Trump is getting traction when
he talks about crime. It's because of the fear of
(08:31):
that happening. And you know, for so much of liberal America,
they pretended that this didn't exist. It's not only looking away,
but it's denying the reality for of the fear of
so many Americans. And you know, everything in America has
come down to politics.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's what I do.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You want to know why people respond to Donald Trump,
it's because he has said, you're okay, it's okay for
you to be afraid.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, it's not racist for you to be afraid.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And most people who are good, decent Americans are not racist.
They're just realistic and the statistics speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And just to be clear, when I said I felt
like I had to turn away It wasn't to try
to get away from the reality of it. I already
understood the reality of it. It was that. And maybe
it's because my kids are only a little bit younger
than Arena. It was because I just didn't want to
burst out in tears. I mean, I'm almost I'm almost
in tears just thinking about it right now, and I'm
(09:35):
not even looking at the picture.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And she came to America to escape war and lead
a better life and dies on the streets of America
at the hands of a monster who had committed multiple
other violent felonies.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And I hate to say this, Ross.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But all these people who are crying about Ukraine right now,
and that's a different conversation, but everybody saying we have
to save to you Granians, we have to save the Ukrainians,
why are they saving her now that she's in America?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Mm hm. And you know, I'm you I'm sure no,
or at least know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mary Catherine Ham, she was on another network yesterday and
she had a wonderful line that, you know, really kind.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Of stuck with me. She said.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I she said, I think it's outrageous how there are
so many people who are who are more upset that
people are noticing the murder than they are upset that
there was the murder, and and I think that's I
think that's on target.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, and that's that is why I predict that this
will force a real conversation about this issue. And it
needs to. It just it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's at the risk of making it political when it
really is about that girl's life. This is a This
is a terrible issue for Democrats. And as with most
issues for Democrats that aren't good for them lately, they
find themselves unable to get on the right side of
the issue because their first instinct is to take the
other side of Donald Trump, even when he's on the
(11:07):
right side of the issue, which you talked about a lot, right.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, Donald Trump's political genius is getting his political opponents
to reflexively take the opposite side. And for the past
few weeks, Democrats have been telling us that crime is
not a problem. American cities are safe, Crime in DC
is down, you can walk the streets of Chicago unmolested.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And it's just not true. And we all know it's
not true.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And the one surefire way to get on the wrong
side of the American people is to deny how they feel.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
It was when Joe Biden told us the economy was great,
people felt it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
When people told us that you needed to have boys
in girls' sports, people felt like that was wrong. It's
not how you as a politician. You cannot capture support
by denying how people feel. And I think that is,
(12:06):
by the way, in the flip side is when you
capture how people do feel, there's something there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Barack Obama was great at it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He realized in two thousand and eight that America needed
optimism and they needed hope, and they needed the promise
of change.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And that's what he delivered Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Two, same thing. He needed somebody who felt their pain.
And Democrats right now don't seem to be able to
do that because the identity politics part of this and
being social I would call it illiberal, but for them,
being progressive is more important than anything else.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
All right, let me do a couple other topics quickly
with you. Yesterday. I think I might have cheered out
loud when watching your show when you were talking with
that guest who is a former State Department guy. I
blanking on his name, and yeah, and I really like
that guy, by the way. He's an excellent guest and
(13:05):
he's very interesting. I really really like him. At one
point in the conversation, he said something like, well, there
needs to be a negotiated solution to the Israel Gaza thing,
and you said, and I could tell that you said
this without thinking. And I don't mean that in a
negative way. You said it without thinking because it's already
(13:25):
so clear in your mind that it's the right answer.
When he said there needs to be a negotiated solution,
you said, no, there doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And I was just.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Cheering for you, like to have the balls to say that,
because you're right, and I've never heard anybody else on
television say it. Can you just elaborate briefly on that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The concept seems to be that Israel must accept a
suicidal terrorist state swarm to their destruction on their order.
There is no other country in the world that would
ever accept that or over the course of history. I
(14:07):
mean that that would be like saying to the United States, hey,
we have to allow Imperial Japan to control all of
Canada and post World.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
War two, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
The Hamas has sworn declaration is the destruction of the
state of Israel and the creation of a Palestinian state
with Jerusalem is their capital.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Asking Israel to accept that on their border is asking
them to simply wait to be attacked again. That doesn't happen.
You can't do that. And the idea that you can
make peace with terrorists is laughable. It's why, by the way,
Israel has made peace with Egypt and with Jordan, and
(14:58):
with the United Arab Emirates and the other countries of
the Abraham Accords, because those are countries that recognize Israel's
right to exist and have become supportive of it, and
Israel's become supportive of them. It's fairly simple. So I
think it is absurd. And all you have to do
Ross is take the next sentence right after you say
(15:19):
a negotiated settlement, Well, who do you have a negotiated
settlement with terrorists who want to kill you?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That doesn't work?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Was like us trying to have a negotiated settlement with Issama.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Bin Lad after nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's preposterous on its face, but as you point out,
nobody will say it because the Palestinians have been very
good at convincing all of us that Israel is the problem,
when in fact it's.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Them we're talking with Leland Vendors, he hosts on Balance
on News Nation seven pm with replay at ten pm
Mountain Time. Warnoes dot com as well to get Leland's
daily email, or at least each day that he has
a show, and you get Leland's showprep in there, so
you kind of understand what's in his brain. All right,
I just want to do two minutes with you on
(16:05):
one more thing and then we'll talk about this more
the next time I have you on the show. But
I read your book and it's not published yet, but
I got an advanced version from you. I read the book.
I think the official release is toward the end of
this month.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Is that right.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
September thirtieth the book comes out Born luckybook dot com.
And it is the story of what happened when I
was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism
and my father decided he would tell no one and
rather than adapting the world to me, as is so
(16:46):
much in vogue right now when everyone has a diagnosis,
he said, I am going to work to adapt Lucky
which was my nickname to the world.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And I think most.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Importantly, he realized that being uncomfortable, that facing adversity as
the kid was a good thing. And I think so
many parents now and rightfully so, because they love their children,
but also because this is very in vogue, don't want
their kids to face adversity. They want things to be
as easy as possible for their kids. And he was
(17:20):
right when he forced me to face adversity head on.
Tell the story in the book of how my IQ
tests showed that in some cases I was mentally retarded.
In other cases a genius would have had huge special
considerations for having learning disabilities. And he said no, he
said no accommodations whatsoever. So that it is the story
(17:42):
of him, and obviously you've gotten a chance to read it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's it's a remarkable story.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I've got so many things I want to ask you
that we'll talk about next time, because next time will
be right, let's see, right before the book publishes, I guess,
so we'll talk about it more next time. But I
just want one quick question. I have a little less
than a minute. You share a lot of stuff about
yourself in there that it is pretty remarkable that somebody
(18:08):
would open that up to the millions of people who
would read the book and the page you went through
as a kid, and the struggles you went through as
a kid, and it was you know, as your friend.
It was hard for me to read some of that, Like,
I can't believe my friend went through this as a kid.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why why did you do that?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Like there was the story of the teacher who, in
front of an entire eighth grade class said that if
his dog was as ugly as me, he would shave
his dog's rear end didn't say rear end and make
it walk backwards.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And then my dad made me go to school the
next day.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It was a little bit like going to therapy, which
I never did as a kid my dad. I never
had a therapist or anything like that. But now I'm
going to therapy on national television and radio ROSS.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We'll see how it works out.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
The The idea is to give parents and kids hope,
and if it does that, then reliving this was worth it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's born luckybook dot com. Go pre order the book
right now, seriously, right now. Go to Born luckybook dot
com pre order it. You'll get it just at or
just after the end of this month, and you won't
be able to put it down.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's kind of a life changing read, I have to say.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Leland Vedder's show is on Balance on News Nation seven
pm and ten pm Mountain Time here weekdays.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Thanks for making time as always, Leland, and thanks for
the best show on cable.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
News all the US. Ross, thank you.
I mention this every time because I never fail to
read Leland's war Notes that come out in the afternoon,
which I like because I get bombarded with stuff in
the morning, so I like getting the afternoon email. If
you go to war notes dot com, you can sign
up for Leland's daily email, which is basically his show prep,
and you'll kind of see what's in his brain.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And then the other thing I'll mention before we.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Own before yeah, before we start a conversation. The other
thing I'll mention is his book Born Lucky, a remarkable
book that we'll talk about a little this time and
then more next time I have him on the show.
But you can get started with the pre order at
Born luckybook dot com. All right, Leland, it's been a
busy week. It's good to have you back. Thanks for
making time for us.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Always good to be with you.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Ross, And you were looking because my video disappeared for
a minute. Ross always makes you connect with a video link,
and he got very nervous because I was my video disappeared.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
But I am here.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
For you, all right, very good. A nice flag on
the wall behind you wherever you are. Before before we
jump into the heavy stuff, you went to your sister
in law's wedding that brought you to Colorado. How was Colorado?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Colorado is always where my heart will be.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I spent three years here and it was the best
three years of my life there in Colorado, and was
up in Aspen for my sister in law's wedding and
was reminded how the mountains are renewing to us and
how they bring you back to what matters, which was
(01:38):
one of the just wonderful moments of the summer was
to be there with them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I share that you and I have both lived in
Chicago and either in or near DC, and I'm very
happy living here, and hopefully one day you'll be able
to move back here when you're profession or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
When I got my job, I was an angry at
KATIEVR for three years, and when I got a job
to move overseas with Fox News, the person who I
worked for said, congratulations on your new job.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You are now cursed because.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You are going to spend the rest of your life
trying to figure out how to get back to Colorado.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And he was right, very good.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
All right, So I talk to you about every two
weeks on the show, and just in the way the
world works, and especially the rapid news cycle and so on,
it's pretty rare that other than war, the same thing
is really the central topic of conversation. You know, two
weeks later we're just constantly moving on. But last time
(02:36):
I talked to you, the primary topic of our conversation
was crime, and now it clearly still is. And this
horrific killing of this innocent young girl, young lady, whatever
you want to call her in Charlotte Arena. I saw
some stuff on your show last night that I wrote
(02:58):
about this morning, and you read all that. But you've
been talking a lot about crime in the macro, and
I'd like you to just talk for a minute about
how you think this particular terrible murder maybe or may
already be an important thing in the national conversation, maybe
(03:21):
even a thing that changes elections, as you were talking
about with Mark Helper and yesterday on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
There are inflection moments in our life that we look
back on and say that was a moment the conversation changed,
And lately it's been because of an image, right it was.
Rodney King was an example, the march on the Selma
Bridge as an example.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
George Floyd was an example.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Because you couldn't unsee what was happening, and it required
a conversation about something that existed for a long time,
and then all of a sudden, that image is something
that people realized was capturing this much larger issue that
had been festering and building.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And the image of.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Arina Jeruska having her throat slashed and then sitting there
and grabbing her throat as no one on the train
did anything, and realizing she was dying, and this man
walking out saying I got the white girl. You see
that image, and it is the personification of a fear
(04:32):
of a huge number of Americans, a huge number of
American women who feel as though they are a waiting
to be victims and b have been bullied into silence
about who is committing the vast, vast majority of violent
(04:55):
crimes in America. And if we want to have honest
conversations about how to solve problem, we have to have
honest conversations about what the problem is and who is
perpetrating the crimes. After nine to eleven, the threat was
from Islamic terrorism. There were not a lot of Grandmother's
hijacking planes the statistic I have seen is that fifty percent,
(05:18):
a little bit more than fifty percent of the murders
in America and the vast majority of non relationship murders
in America, meaning unknown killer to the victim, are committed
by young blackmales, which to the time the victims are
other young blacks. And if we are going in the
(05:38):
vast majority of these people have already had run into
the law. Lots of them have multiple felony arrests but
have been let out because of cashlest bail policies. There
is no other way to get a handle on violent
crime in America than reversing the policies that have allowed
these people to be on the streets as they did
(06:00):
with the case in Charlotte. This is somebody who buy
any objective measure. But for all of the changes after
George Floyd should have been in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So prior to watching your show last night, I had
only seen video and still photos up until the moment
just before.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Irena got stabbed.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Right like the last still and the last piece of
video was a terrifying image of the killer with his
hand up in the air about to stab her, like
you might see in a slasher movie.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And that's horrific enough.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I hadn't seen anything after that until I saw your
show last night. And on your show last night, I
saw a couple of still pictures from after. I had
imagined her sort of immediately dead, which already would be
bad enough, but she wasn't immediately dead. She was sitting there,
as you said, with with her hand on her throat.
And you know, listeners, you can't see Leland, but as
(07:05):
he was talking about it, he put his hand on
his throat. I don't know, Leland, I don't even know
if you noticed that you did that. And and she's
there with this look of astonishment and bewilderment, and what
the bleep just happened? As she's slowly dying, and the
people around her, not all many of the people around
(07:26):
her get up and walk by her to get her
without offering any help, and this whole dude, I had
to turn away from the screen as I was watching
your show, just from the still picture because of after
the mock me crushed. And that is the issue, right,
is that we want to turn away. And I hate
doing media.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Commentary, but we all know that if it had been
a black woman and a white assailant. That video would
be playing on repeat on every single network morning show
and every single social media channel, and we would be
having national conversations on and on and on and on
and on. But because the race is reversed, we are not.
(08:07):
And it is so easy to look away. It is
so easy not to think that that could be my wife,
your wife, your daughter, your your friend, any of us.
And people wonder why Donald Trump is getting traction when
he talks about crime. It's because of the fear of
(08:31):
that happening. And you know, for so much of liberal America,
they pretended that this didn't exist. It's not only looking away,
but it's denying the reality for of the fear of
so many Americans. And you know, everything in America has
come down to politics.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It's what I do.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You want to know why people respond to Donald Trump,
it's because he has said, you're okay, it's okay for
you to be afraid.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, it's not racist for you to be afraid.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
And most people who are good, decent Americans are not racist.
They're just realistic and the statistics speak for themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And just to be clear, when I said I felt
like I had to turn away It wasn't to try
to get away from the reality of it. I already
understood the reality of it. It was that. And maybe
it's because my kids are only a little bit younger
than Arena. It was because I just didn't want to
burst out in tears. I mean, I'm almost I'm almost
in tears just thinking about it right now, and I'm
(09:35):
not even looking at the picture.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
And she came to America to escape war and lead
a better life and dies on the streets of America
at the hands of a monster who had committed multiple
other violent felonies.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And I hate to say this, Ross.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
But all these people who are crying about Ukraine right now,
and that's a different conversation, but everybody saying we have
to save to you Granians, we have to save the Ukrainians,
why are they saving her now that she's in America?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Mm hm. And you know, I'm you I'm sure no,
or at least know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Mary Catherine Ham, she was on another network yesterday and
she had a wonderful line that, you know, really kind.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Of stuck with me. She said.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I she said, I think it's outrageous how there are
so many people who are who are more upset that
people are noticing the murder than they are upset that
there was the murder, and and I think that's I
think that's on target.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, and that's that is why I predict that this
will force a real conversation about this issue. And it
needs to. It just it's that simple.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
It's at the risk of making it political when it
really is about that girl's life. This is a This
is a terrible issue for Democrats. And as with most
issues for Democrats that aren't good for them lately, they
find themselves unable to get on the right side of
the issue because their first instinct is to take the
other side of Donald Trump, even when he's on the
(11:07):
right side of the issue, which you talked about a lot, right.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah, Donald Trump's political genius is getting his political opponents
to reflexively take the opposite side. And for the past
few weeks, Democrats have been telling us that crime is
not a problem. American cities are safe, Crime in DC
is down, you can walk the streets of Chicago unmolested.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And it's just not true. And we all know it's
not true.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
And the one surefire way to get on the wrong
side of the American people is to deny how they feel.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
It was when Joe Biden told us the economy was great,
people felt it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
When people told us that you needed to have boys
in girls' sports, people felt like that was wrong. It's
not how you as a politician. You cannot capture support
by denying how people feel. And I think that is,
(12:06):
by the way, in the flip side is when you
capture how people do feel, there's something there.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Barack Obama was great at it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He realized in two thousand and eight that America needed
optimism and they needed hope, and they needed the promise
of change.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And that's what he delivered Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Two, same thing. He needed somebody who felt their pain.
And Democrats right now don't seem to be able to
do that because the identity politics part of this and
being social I would call it illiberal, but for them,
being progressive is more important than anything else.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
All right, let me do a couple other topics quickly
with you. Yesterday. I think I might have cheered out
loud when watching your show when you were talking with
that guest who is a former State Department guy. I
blanking on his name, and yeah, and I really like
that guy, by the way. He's an excellent guest and
(13:05):
he's very interesting. I really really like him. At one
point in the conversation, he said something like, well, there
needs to be a negotiated solution to the Israel Gaza thing,
and you said, and I could tell that you said
this without thinking. And I don't mean that in a
negative way. You said it without thinking because it's already
(13:25):
so clear in your mind that it's the right answer.
When he said there needs to be a negotiated solution,
you said, no, there doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And I was just.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Cheering for you, like to have the balls to say that,
because you're right, and I've never heard anybody else on
television say it. Can you just elaborate briefly on that.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
The concept seems to be that Israel must accept a
suicidal terrorist state swarm to their destruction on their order.
There is no other country in the world that would
ever accept that or over the course of history. I
(14:07):
mean that that would be like saying to the United States, hey,
we have to allow Imperial Japan to control all of
Canada and post World.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
War two, you can't do that.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
The Hamas has sworn declaration is the destruction of the
state of Israel and the creation of a Palestinian state
with Jerusalem is their capital.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Asking Israel to accept that on their border is asking
them to simply wait to be attacked again. That doesn't happen.
You can't do that. And the idea that you can
make peace with terrorists is laughable. It's why, by the way,
Israel has made peace with Egypt and with Jordan, and
(14:58):
with the United Arab Emirates and the other countries of
the Abraham Accords, because those are countries that recognize Israel's
right to exist and have become supportive of it, and
Israel's become supportive of them. It's fairly simple. So I
think it is absurd. And all you have to do
Ross is take the next sentence right after you say
(15:19):
a negotiated settlement, Well, who do you have a negotiated
settlement with terrorists who want to kill you?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That doesn't work?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Was like us trying to have a negotiated settlement with Issama.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Bin Lad after nine to eleven.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's preposterous on its face, but as you point out,
nobody will say it because the Palestinians have been very
good at convincing all of us that Israel is the problem,
when in fact it's.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Them we're talking with Leland Vendors, he hosts on Balance
on News Nation seven pm with replay at ten pm
Mountain Time. Warnoes dot com as well to get Leland's
daily email, or at least each day that he has
a show, and you get Leland's showprep in there, so
you kind of understand what's in his brain. All right,
I just want to do two minutes with you on
(16:05):
one more thing and then we'll talk about this more
the next time I have you on the show. But
I read your book and it's not published yet, but
I got an advanced version from you. I read the book.
I think the official release is toward the end of
this month.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Is that right.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
September thirtieth the book comes out Born luckybook dot com.
And it is the story of what happened when I
was diagnosed with what we now know to be autism
and my father decided he would tell no one and
rather than adapting the world to me, as is so
(16:46):
much in vogue right now when everyone has a diagnosis,
he said, I am going to work to adapt Lucky
which was my nickname to the world.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And I think most.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Importantly, he realized that being uncomfortable, that facing adversity as
the kid was a good thing. And I think so
many parents now and rightfully so, because they love their children,
but also because this is very in vogue, don't want
their kids to face adversity. They want things to be
as easy as possible for their kids. And he was
(17:20):
right when he forced me to face adversity head on.
Tell the story in the book of how my IQ
tests showed that in some cases I was mentally retarded.
In other cases a genius would have had huge special
considerations for having learning disabilities. And he said no, he
said no accommodations whatsoever. So that it is the story
(17:42):
of him, and obviously you've gotten a chance to read it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's it's a remarkable story.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I've got so many things I want to ask you
that we'll talk about next time, because next time will
be right, let's see, right before the book publishes, I guess,
so we'll talk about it more next time. But I
just want one quick question. I have a little less
than a minute. You share a lot of stuff about
yourself in there that it is pretty remarkable that somebody
(18:08):
would open that up to the millions of people who
would read the book and the page you went through
as a kid, and the struggles you went through as
a kid, and it was you know, as your friend.
It was hard for me to read some of that, Like,
I can't believe my friend went through this as a kid.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Why why did you do that?
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Like there was the story of the teacher who, in
front of an entire eighth grade class said that if
his dog was as ugly as me, he would shave
his dog's rear end didn't say rear end and make
it walk backwards.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
And then my dad made me go to school the
next day.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It was a little bit like going to therapy, which
I never did as a kid my dad. I never
had a therapist or anything like that. But now I'm
going to therapy on national television and radio ROSS.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
So we'll see how it works out.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We'll see how it works out.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
The The idea is to give parents and kids hope,
and if it does that, then reliving this was worth it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's born luckybook dot com. Go pre order the book
right now, seriously, right now. Go to Born luckybook dot
com pre order it. You'll get it just at or
just after the end of this month, and you won't
be able to put it down.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's kind of a life changing read, I have to say.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Leland Vedder's show is on Balance on News Nation seven
pm and ten pm Mountain Time here weekdays.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Great to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Thanks for making time as always, Leland, and thanks for
the best show on cable.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
News all the US. Ross, thank you.
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