09-24-25 - *FULL SHOW* Leland Vittert; Robot Umpires; Combat Boots; Kimmel

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ton of stuff to do today.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Got some interesting guests, including Leland Vinters, who's normally on
IT eleven thirty, but we're gonna have him at ten
thirty today.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
He's making time for us in the middle of a
book tour. They tried to cancel.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
He's normally on eleven thirty, and his television network said
he's busy today and he can't do it. So I
texted him. I said, dude, we have too much to
talk about. You cannot cancel on me today, and he said,
all right, just just for you, I wouldn't do this
for anybody else.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, we'll make it work an hour early.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
So I'm also going to have a reporter from the
Hill in half an hour. Her name is Ashley Fields,
and we're going to talk about this crazy apparent foiled
massive attack on the New York City cell phone system.
There's way more questions than answers, way more. I'm very
interested in it. I would like to request that you

(00:51):
go to Rosscominski dot substack dot com and read the
note that I posted this morning, which I think is
one of the more important things that I've written for
a while, and I'll I'll talk about it more I'm
actually not going to give you any details about it
right now. I just think it's important and I hope
you will go to Rosskominsky dot substack dot com and
subscribe to my substack.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's free.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
It's probably worth more than that, and I think this
note that I wrote is worth reading. And also just
on a separate thing and go to rosstrip dot com,
ros s t ri ip dot com and consider traveling
to Central Slash Eastern E're up with me and my
wife and maybe thirty KOA listeners next April. It's a

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really is a really well priced trip that is going
to be a great trip. So I want to just
spend a little time following up on one of the
bigger stories of the day, and Pat Woodard talked about
a little bit, and that is Jimmy Kimmel coming back
last night.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And I spent a.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Little bit of time on this yesterdays and I sort
of ranted a lot about first Prince Pulls and the
Constitution yesterday, and I'm gonna not do as much of
that today, though may still mention here or there in passing.
But what I said about Jimmy Kimmel coming back, just
the brief version is once Brendan Carr of the FCC

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got involved and threatened ABC. At that point, for me,
the story really wasn't about Kimmel anymore. It was about
pushing back on government bureaucrats who are assaulting the constitution.
And so I was actually glad that Kimmel came back,
even though I don't care about Kimmel. I don't watch
his show. I'm not gonna watch the show going forward.
It wouldn't bother me one bit if ABC decides not

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to keep him on after the end of his contract.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I just don't care.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
And I think most I think most conservatives, most libertarians,
I don't think very many people care and about Jimmy Kimmel,
which you can tell from his writings, not very many
people care. But again, the story, which was originally about
Kimmel and the bad stuff that he said that deserved,
absolutely deserved the suspension that by Brendan.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Carr jumping in.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Brendan Carr made the story about Brendan Carr and government.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
So Jimmy Kimmel came back last night.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I didn't watch it, but I grabbed a few audio
clips this morning, and I just want to share a
little bit with you and talk about a little bit.
And I want to get your take as well. I
don't know, you know, did you watch did you hear
some audio clips? How do you feel about it? Do
you think the punishment fit the crime as they say?
Do you think he should have been fired? Do you
think he shouldn't have even been suspended? Do you think

(03:28):
he said what needed to be said? And again, keep
in mind, if you're a conservative or even a libertarian,
a Trump supporter and so on, it wasn't really trying
to appeal to you. You're still not. I'm still not
his target audience. So anyway, text me at five six
six nine zero and let me know any of your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Here's something he said last night.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I do want to make something clear because it's important
to me as a human, and that is you understand
that it was never my intention to make light of
the murder of a young man.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't think there's anything funny about it.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I posted a message on Instagram of the daves killed,
sending love to his family and asking for compassion, and
I meant it.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
I still do.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group
for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply
disturbed individual.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
That was really the opposite of the point I was
trying to make.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
But I understand that to some that felt either ill
timed or unclear, or maybe both. And for those who
think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset.
If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd
have felt the same way.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
All right, I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Now again, keeping in mind that you and I, well,
I shouldn't say not everybody listening to me. Many people
listening right now are not Jimmy Kimmel's target audience, right.
I have listeners across the political spectrum, but on average,
my median listener is right of center, and my median

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listener is probably over the age of forty, right, maybe
over the age of fifty.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And that's just not his target audience.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And so I've heard some people this morning complaining that
Jimmy Kimmel didn't apologize, and even if Pat Woodard wasn't complaining,
but Pat Woodard noted in the newscast that Jimmy Kimmel
didn't say, you know, anything directly like I apologize or
I'm sorry. The closest he got was what I just

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played for you right there, which some folks who were
deeply offended by Kimmel's remarks, and they were offensive. Kimmel's
remarks really were bad. They were offensive. The closest he
came to admitting it was what I just played for
you right there, which wasn't exactly a full throated apology.
That said, given who he is, who he's trying to
appeal to, who he worked for and all this, I

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thought he I thought he threaded the needle well enough,
well enough again, I'm not looking to forgive Kimmel or not.
He later on went to talk about forgiveness. I'm not
going to play that audio. I'm not looking to forgive
him or not forgive him. I really don't care about him.
Again what he said arguing that Republicans were trying to

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score political points by claiming that the shooter wasn't a
conservative MAGA person, and when the shooter wasn't a conservative
MEGA person.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
What Kimmel said, he should have known was wrong. It
was wrong. He should have known was wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
The timing was wildly inappropriate, and it's just more of
Jimmy Kimmel Trump derangement syndrome. But like I said, once
the government got involved, the story was had to be
about government now and not about Kimmel, who is inconsequential.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
He's just an entertainer, comedian who.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Used to be funny and is not particularly funny anymore,
according to me anyway. But now, all of a sudden,
you got the government threatening a private company.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
One other thing. I've got plenty of audio. I'm not
going to play all of it for you. Now play
one other quick thing. Now.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I have many friends and family members on the other
side who I love and remain close to, even though
we don't agree on politics at all. I don't think
the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone. This was
a sick person who believed violence was a solution and
it isn't it.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's right, that's great, and he should have said it
much sooner.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm keeping an eye on this story coming out of Dallas,
where there was a shooting at an ice facility, apparently
an ice holding center.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know much of the details.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
All I've heard really so far is that a few
people were shot, the shooter is dead. I'm not sure
how many of the people other than the shooter who
were shot died. It does not appear that law enforcement
passed away. And I am hoping to in a moment

(08:08):
or two here just perhaps take a press conference. Actually,
let's have a listen. It looks like they're getting started.
Hopefully the audio gets better than this.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
We're about to get started to every few on the
events as we know that happened this morning.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
All right, let me just let me start off by
saying that I'm a person who believes very, very strongly
in the power of prayer.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I believe this is the mayor of Dallas, by the way,
So I'm going to ask everyone please.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Join me.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
In praying for the families of the folks who lost
their lives today. Pray for the speedy recovery for those
who are hurting. We're injured in what happened today. But

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maybe even more to the point, we're a country and
a city.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That needs prayer.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
So I'm gonna ask you all to join me also
at praying for this city.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
All right, not to sound dismissive of prayer, but I
think we don't need to take that right now on
the radio show, I would just like to know kind
of what actually happened that the mayor there.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
This is another thing with radio like kind of on
the fence. Is it boring? Is it not boring?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
But if it's boring, and then he's standing in or
if it's borderline rather and he's standing in front of
a very large truck that's running, So the audio isn't good,
I'm gonna just sort of default to talking about it
myself until something else comes up that maybe has information
that that we want. But so we're just we're keeping
an eye on it. Let me just do something real

(10:09):
different here. I saw a story in Axios that I
thought was interesting. You know, I'm interested in international trade
and international stuff. Axios has a couple of stories. The
US helped Argentina. Then Argentine farmers made a deal with China,
so they talk a little bit and I won't go
into the details, but the United States is trying to

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help Argentina. They have a very libertarian president who is
liberalizing markets, reducing taxes, moving towards free trade, all the
kinds of stuff that the United States should be doing
but largely isn't.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
And as Axios.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Puts it on Monday, Treasury secretaries got best in denounced
concepts for broad financial support to stabilize Argentina's economy, their markets,
and their yeah, to stabilize their economy, their markets, and
their currency, which is the peso Argentinian peso rallied on
the news. So one of the things that Argentina did
was suspend export taxes on a bunch of products, including

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they had a twenty six percent export tax on soybeans.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And so what's happened now?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
China imports lots and lots and lots of soybeans, They
eat lots of soy products, and overnight, basically China doubled
their soybean purchases from Argentina from you know, medium size
to a little from small ish to a little bigger
than small ish, not enormous, but still they doubled overnight.

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And according to Axios, this further priced out US soybean.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Farmers who are already grappling.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
With a twenty percent tariff imposed by China on their soybeans. Right,
So what happens is President Trump starts a trade.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
War with China.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
China wants to retaliate in ways that are politically effective,
and so China wants to put tariffs, and did put
tariffs on things that are sold by Trump supporters farmers.
So they specifically target this stuff, right, they target crops
grown by farmers, and so they put this tariff on.

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And that means that Chinese businesses that want to buy
tariffs may now want to buy soybeans, may find American
soybeans too expensive because of the twenty percent Chinese sales
tax on American soybeans. And that's all a tariff is, right,
It's a sales tax impost by your government on you
when you buy something. And so that's what these tariffs

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that Trump imposed are. They are sales taxes imposed on
you by Donald Trump when you want to buy something
that happens to be made somewhere else. And so suddenly
now you have the Chinese businesses that need soybeans buying elsewhere,
mostly buying from Brazil, for example. And I just want

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to to share one thing. The president of the Minnesota
Soybean Growers Association says, we want fair trade.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
But when it starts impacting the demand.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
And it's ongoing like it is, it creates so much
uncertainty for farmers. Well that's because this is a trade war.
Now and when you say you want fair trade, that's
code for saying, we support Donald Trump starting these trade
wars because we believe these other countries weren't treating the
US fairly.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
And you know what, they weren't. They weren't. But what
did you think would happen? And I'll tell you what's
coming next. It's the same thing that came last time.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Farmers is going to lose a lot of money because
of the trade war, and Donald Trump is going to
try to buy their votes back by using federal government
money to subsidize farmers and give them a bunch of
money for crops they can't sell, and basically everybody loses.
When we come back, we're gonna talk with a reporter
from the Hill named Ashley Fields about this insane, apparently

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foiled attack on the New York City cell phone system.
It's a crazy story. We'll talk about it next. I
as you know, I read. I read a lot of
thriller novels, a lot of espionage thrillers and that sort
of thing. And when I saw this story yesterday about
this you might call us foiled.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know if they were even trying to launch it.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Already, but this potential massive attack on the cell phone
system in New York City. And of course yesterday President
Trump was there and a bunch of other big shots
were there for the United Nations. When I read that stuff,
it sounded like something out of an espionage thriller. And
I got to say, this whole story raises a lot

(14:43):
more questions than answers, so I thought, all right, maybe
we should have someone on who might be able to
help us understand the story a little better.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So I'm very pleased to.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Welcome to the show for the first time Ashley Fields,
who is a breaking news reporter over at the Hill
The Hill Dot and Ashley. First, welcome to KOA And second,
how wacky is this story?

Speaker 8 (15:07):
Well, thank you so much for having me. This story
is completely out of the ordinary, as investigators from the
Secret Service found that over three hundred co located SIM
servers and one hundred thousand SIM cards were discovered throughout
New York City.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
What is a SIM server?

Speaker 9 (15:26):
So a SIM.

Speaker 8 (15:27):
Server is basically a device that is connected to things
like phones and other devices, and it tracks the data
from that gadget and so on. There you can tell
about calls and different things like that, and right now
investigators are saying that these devices and cards are linked
to the impersonation of Secret Service and Secretary of State

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Marco Rubio and others who were impersonated online over the summer.
So they're investigating a potential link there.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Okay, So some of the stuff I've been reading trying
to understand this a little bit sounds like with that
many essentially kind of spoofed cell phones. Well, they function
as cell phones, even if the cards are themselves not
sitting in an actual phone, but they can function.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Kind of as cell phones.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
It sounds like they thought maybe they were going to
use these to overwhelm the cell system or something like that.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Yes, there was one investigator who said that these devices
could sit out a text message to the entire country
within twelve minutes. And as you know, President Trump and
world leaders were gathering in the city for the United
Nations General Assembly, so there were a lot of concerns there,
especially with protecting these hypostyle officials.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
If so. Yeah, and just on the.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Frequency thing, I did read somebody saying that this had
the capability of sending thirty million text messages a minute.
I mean, I guess what I'm trying to get a
handle on Ashley is how well understood do you think
whatever this is is, like, do people really know what

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it was going to do or who was going to
do it?

Speaker 8 (17:13):
So right now they have not been able to identify
a singular suspect, but they do say that messages on
these devices were tied to foreign governments and criminal entities
that were previously known by the SBI, So it looks
like there could be some ties back to people who
have been investigated in the past, But right now a

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lot is up in the air.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, I mean, just based on your reporting and talking
to people, do you think this is likely to be China?
Do you think it's way too soon to even speculate
like that?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
What's your take?

Speaker 8 (17:50):
It's way too soon to speculate. The devices were just
taken on Tunesday, and so they're going to take their
time going through every text message, every call that was
sent out, and so we'll just have to wait to
see what they say afterwards.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Do you have any understanding of how the FBI found
these things?

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Right now, there is no there's no information on how
the SBI found these devices, but they know that they're
glad they did. The Department of Homeland Security is leading
this investigation along with the Justice Department YPD, so hopefully
they'll have some updates soon.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, I hope so.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
And then I guess my last question for you on this,
Ashley is have they given any indication that they believe
this kind of thing maybe going on in other cities
as well?

Speaker 8 (18:44):
So they have not shared any links to other cities,
but again, they did tie this back to something that
happened potentially over the summer, you know, with the impersonation
of high profile officials and prank calls of high profile officials.
But they're still sifting through all the information on the
devices to find out.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Wow, what a crazy, crazy story.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And still still even after talking to you, I mean,
you still have more questions than answers, and you're following
this thing more closely than I am, so obviously I
have more questions than answers.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I guess we'll both find out at some point, or
maybe we won't.

Speaker 8 (19:23):
I know they'll be back with an update soon, and
hope that I can be on to share it with
you and your listeners.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
That would be fantastic.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Ashley Fields is breaking news reporter at The Hill Vhill
Dot com it's one of my go to websites actually
for political news. Thank you so much for your time, Ashley.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Glad to all right think about this though.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Okay, so one hundred times you know what a SIM
card is. Actually, these days a lot of phones use
these digital sims.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
They don't even use the physical card.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But until fairly recently, any cell phone would have to
have a little card. And that little card is what
has the phone number programmed into it and various kinds
of identifying information that allows the cell system to know
that when a call is coming to you, it identifies
you by that card, or if you're doing an outgoing
and identifies you buy that card. So you got to

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have otherwise the phone is.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Is basically a paperweight, right.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I guess you could do Wi Fi with it, but
you couldn't do you couldn't do sell with it. So
they they found three hundred of these servers and I'm
looking at pictures of them. There's a giant, you know,
electronic box looking things that have little slots and it
looks like they've got thousands and thousands of SIM cards
plugged into the slots and it must just be a

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way to control each of these things, as if it's
a phone and I don't know what, I don't know what.
Here's from the Associated Press. The cash cach not CISH,
made up of more than three hundred SIM servers, packed
with over one hundred thousand SIM cards and clustered within

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thirty five miles that you United Nations, represents one of
the most sweeping communications.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Threats uncovered on US soil. Investigators warned the.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
System could have blacked out cell service in a city
that relies on it not only for daily life, but
for emergency response and counter terrorism, coming as foreign leaders
filled midtown hotels and motorcades clogged Manhattan, officials say to
takedown highlights a new frontier of risk plots aimed at
the invisible infrastructure that keeps a modern city connected.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Wow, all right, let me give you a little more.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
This is kind of nerdy, kind of you know, very
It is like an ultramodern version of John Lecare or something.
The network was uncovered as part of a broader Secret
Service investigation into telecommunications threats targeting senior government officials. Spread
across multiple sites. The servers functioned like banks of mock
cell phones, able to generate mass calls and texts, overwhelmed

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local networks, and mask encryptied communications among criminals, officials, said
Matt McCool an excellent name.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
The Specialation in charge of.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
The Secret Services New York Field Office says it can't
be understated. Actually, I think what he meant to say was,
it can't be overstated what this system is capable of doing.
It can take down cell towers. So then no, people
can no longer communicate. You can't text, you can't use
your cell And if you couple that with some this
is the key. Now, if you coupled that with some

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sort of other event associated with the United Nations General Assembly,
you know, use your imagination there, it could be catastrophic
to the city. So if I were to if I
were to theorize, if I were to theorize, and by
the way, this is what they call a wag all right,
wild ass guests, right, pure wild speculation based on based

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on nothing other than what I just shared with you.
What I'm if if I were a bad guy and
I were putting one of these systems in place, I
would run a test first, just a brief one. See
if you could mess with the New York cell phone
system for a minute, two minutes, and then go dark,

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stay quiet, do nothing for a long time until such
time as you are ready to start a war effectively
an economic war, shooting war, whatever.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
You're ready to you're ready to go, try to take
back Taiwan. And you want to distract the Americans by
doing something in America that keeps them busy. This is
this stuff of thriller novels. So if I were they,
I would test it and then I would go dark
and just wait, and then you know it'll work.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
That's again, I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
It doesn't look like they activated this thing in a
massive scale, but it does look like they activated this
stuff on a small ish scale. And McCool again said
who was a well funded, highly organized enterprise, one that

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cost millions of dollars just in hardware and simcards, And
again he said it had the capability of sending up
to thirty million text messages a minute. Imagine that that
is That is just it's unbelievable, really, and it's it's
literally unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well maybe it's not.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
These days, anything is possible, all right, got a lot
of other stuff I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
So President Trump.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Met yesterday and actually we covered this just briefly on
the show. He met on the quote unquote the sidelines
it's not literally on the sideline of the United Nations
General Assembly with Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelenski yesterday. And Trump
has clearly been very frustrated by Vladimir Putin's lack of

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interest in pursuing peace, which is something that President Trump
apparently realized later than everybody else.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But better late than never.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And now he is looking to apparently to push back
a little harder on Putin. And he's doing a lot
of interesting things and things that I think have some validity, right,
and that just for example, Trump is told the Europeans
at the United Nations yesterday, you're funding you're funding this

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war against Ukraine, which in a sense is a war
against Europe. By buying Russian energy, you're funding your own
would be destroyer.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
And that's pretty nuts.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
And he's right now, of course, the Europeans are in
a difficult situation because for many years, although Russia wasn't
an enemy, they were just sort of they weren't an ally,
they were a vendor, they were a country. There was
a you know, messing around in its own way in
the world a little bit here and there, but their
main purpose was as a source of energy. That's kind

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of the only thing Russia produces that's any good. And
you could run a pipeline from Russia to Europe and
get a lot of energy much cheaper than getting energy
any other way. But the problem is that Russia then
turned into an enemy and Europe made a lot of
big mistakes. In fact, Trump castigated the Europeans and properly

(26:25):
so yesterday about their suicidal energy policies. It was just
wonderful to hear Donald Trump utterly trash wind power in
particular solar as well. And Trump talked about this stuff
as one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated, and he's right.

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And Secretary of Energy Chris Wright Wriighd was on Fox
News this morning talking about it. If you go back
and catch that, he was on with Dana Prino and
Bill Hemmer.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Was really good. They talked about all this as well.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And what Trump said to the Europeans is, if we're
going to put pressure on Europe, I'm sorry on Russia.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
We have to do it together. The US.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Just putting sanctions on Russia is only going to have
a modest effect if you keep buying their energy and
other people too. Turkey is a very tricky situation, and
he's right about that too. So Trump sat down with
Zelenski and then Trump posted this on truth Social yesterday

(27:33):
around one pm Our time. It's kind of long, but
I'm going to read it to you after getting to
know and fully understand the Ukraine slash Russia military and
economic situation, and after seeing the economic trouble it's causing Russia,
I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union,
is in a position to fight and win in all

(27:53):
capital letters, win all of Ukraine back in its original form,
with time, patients and the financial support of Europe and
in particular NATO. The original borders from where this war
started is very much an option.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Why not.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years,
a war that should have taken a real military power
less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia.
In fact, it's very much making them look like a
paper tiger. When the people living in Moscow, in all
the great cities, towns, and districts throughout Russia, find.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Out what's really going on with this war.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
The fact that it's almost impossible for them to get
gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and
all the other things that are taking place in their
war economy, where most of their money is being spent
on fighting Ukraine, which has great spirit, capital g capital
s and only getting better. Ukraine would be able to
take back their country in its original form. And who knows,

(28:48):
maybe even go further than that. Putin and Russia, that's
a remarkable line. Maybe even go further than that. Putin
and Russia are in big economic trouble and this is
the time for Ukraine to act. Any event, I wish
both countries. Well, that's an interesting line too. We want
to continue. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO
for NATO to do what they want with them.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Good luck to all. Donald J. Trump, President of the
United States of America.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
That has a very fascinating note, and I want to
just take a few minutes here and parse it a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
I will also note just as an aside, and they'll
come back to this that President Trump was asked yesterday
whether he believes that NATO countries should shoot down Russian
aircraft that violate their airspace, and Trump said, yes, I
do and no, but no hemming and hauing. He just said,
if Russian aircraft violate NATO or European countries airspace, they

(29:43):
should be shot down.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
So that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Now getting back to this tweet, well, it was a
post untrue social but then it got put on Twitter
where I'm reading it or x And one of the
things that really stands out is that he talks about
Ukraine having the support of the European Union. He does
not talk about Ukraine having a support of the United States.
And I don't mean a moral support here, what he means.

(30:07):
What I mean is military support, whatever that might be.
He does not talk about American involvement at all in
all of this, except for the very very end when
he says, we'll keep selling weapons to NATO and then
NATO can do what they want with them.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
And of course we're part of NATO.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
But it's not the same thing as America acting alone,
and Trump can kind of act like the US is
taking a leading from behind, if you might, If you
might pardon my coining a phrase there.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Very interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
So all right, there's a concept in politics called the
Overton window. The Overton window, imagine a wall and on
one side is you, and on the other side is
this range of.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Potential decisions that.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Could be made, okay, and the window is of a
size and in a position in the wall where you
can only see some modest subset of all the potential
decisions that could be made. The concept of the overtin

(31:20):
window is that you could change either the size or
the location of the window in order for more possible
decisions to filter into your consciousness. And Trump has always
been very good at this. Trump has been very very
good at moving the overtin window. And the way you

(31:42):
do this is that you go well past what you want.
It's almost like bluffing and poker. It's not just we're
gonna build a wall, but it's also we're gonna make
Mexico pay for it.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Right. And the point is not that.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Mexico never paid for it and that Mexico never was
gonna pay for it.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
The point is he moved the Overton window, and then.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
He got people starting to think, Wow, we really could
build a real wall. People weren't thinking about that before.
And now he's doing the same thing with Russia Ukraine.
He's not just saying, well, maybe Ukraine could maintain the
territory that it currently still has control of, which appears
to have been so much of the conversation like, oh,

(32:22):
Russia's gonna get to keep whatever it's taken, and hopefully
Ukraine can keep whatever it has left. He's moving the
overtin window and say, no, it's not just that Ukraine
might get to keep what it has left.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's that Ukraine might.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Get to take back what Russia has taken. Nobody's been
talking that way. That is a massive movement of the
Overton window. And I'm not saying it's possible. Theoretically it's possible,
but in order for it to happen, it would probably
require a massive European war and European soldiers beyond Ukrainian

(32:56):
soldiers fighting against Russian soldiers on the ground for the
simple reason that there are not enough Ukrainian soldiers to
do that. But wow, what a conversation changer. And if
Trump is now going to talk this way, Hey, I
support Ukraine taking their land back, and We're going to
sell whatever weapons NATO needs, and the and Europe should

(33:18):
support Ukraine. Regaining their territory. Trump is really trying to
get in the head of Ladimir Putin. I think what
Trump is trying to do is to show Putin that
Trump is not going to back down and that Putin
better makes some moves toward peace. And I think it's
a very interesting and probably smart move by Trump. But

(33:38):
also because of Vladimir Putin being who he is, I
think it won't work. I'm keeping an eye on news
broadcasts on the TVs in the studio here our news
partners at KADIVR. The chyron at the bottom says two
ICE detainees are dead.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
And the shooter is dead. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I mean, first of all, this does appear to be
a copycat of the Charlie Kirk assassination in the sense
that the shooter was on a rooftop and wrote messages,
in this case anti ICE messages on the shellcasings of

(34:19):
the of the bullets he fired. So this says two
detainees are dead, ones injured. I mean, if I don't
like speculating on this though, if somebody is writing anti
ICE messages, you know, odds are that it's some kind
of leftist, But odds are of course, also that it's
a very deranged person, and one wonders if somebody was

(34:42):
looking to attack Ice, how it came to be that the.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That the deaths are as I'm understanding the story.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Again, this could be changing, but as I understand the
story that that the deaths are presumably illegaliens who are
being held by Ice, who I would think that that
kind of crazy person would probably not want to be
hurting them. But you know, it's a crazy person, I
guess anyway, I got as seems to be the case
quite a bit this morning, more more questions than answers.

(35:16):
But this is a very dangerous time. This happens from
time to time, and law enforcement is always worried about it.
When there's some very dramatic, violent event, law enforcement everywhere
properly worries about copycats. Right they see they see the
crazy people, see that the guy who murdered Charlie Kirk

(35:38):
is famous now. And there are a lot of crazy
people who want their fifteen minutes of fame, even if they.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Only enjoy it in death.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And by the way, the shooter here in Texas killed
himself apparently, so that person's dead. And I have a
message By the way, if you are thinking about going
on a rooftop and shooting at anybody, at law enforcement,

(36:08):
at a politic, at anybody, if you're thinking about going
to do that and then killing yourself, I have a
very modest request for you, and I don't think it
should be very difficult.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
I don't think it will interrupt your day all that much.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
If you're thinking about going to try to shoot people
and then shoot yourself, just reverse the order, right, Just
reverse the order. It's more convenient for everybody. Right, there's
less mess to clean up. You know, we don't have
to expend the police's so much of the police's time

(36:44):
investigating this or that.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Right, So just reverse the order.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Right, as Jonathan Swift might have put it, I will
call that my modest proposal for the day.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
What do you think, Dragon, Is that reasonable? Yea, it
sounds fine.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I would also point out that there's the nine eight
eight suicide hotline.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, all right, so you want to actually help people, okay,
just eight right, all right, So let's let's take that seriously.
Because when I when I think about the people who
do this kind of thing that we were talking about,
I haven't perceived it as their primary motivation being suicide.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
But that's a that's a it's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't want I don't want any I don't want
anybody to die who other than somebody who has already
committed a terrible crime. So, and to take Dragon's point
with the seriousness it deserves, don't forget about the nine
eight eight Suicide Prevention hotline, which was just put in
place a couple of years ago, and they had to
actually do a bunch of things with the phone system,

(37:47):
as you might remember, to to get that going. Corey
Gardner was a big part of getting that going. And
and that's a that's a real resource here in Colorado.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
Even if you may not be exactly suicidal, but if
you're having those thoughts as to maybe I need to
harm somebody else, I'm sure that nine eight eight number
will get you to somebody that can get you the
help that you need.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Excellent, very very good, Dragon, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I think I don't need to add to that, and
then to take a quick break, will be right back.
I like ice cream a lot, and Dragon sent me
this story about a new ice cream company opening up
in the days. Well it's actually an old ice cream company,
but new to our area, and I just thought i'd
mention it to you just because why not. I'm always
down to try another good ice cream.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So this place is called Handles h A n.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
D el apostrophe s Handles ice Cream, And according to
the Denver Post, they're going to have forty eight flavors
on available all the time, and then another however many
flavors out of this additional set they have of one

(38:52):
hundred and forty seasonal flavors, so it'll be forty eight
if I'm understanding right, forty eight regulars and some subset
of the seasonal flavor.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So that sounds pretty good.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's gonna be at the Southlands shopping Center in Aurora.
This company, Handles has one hundred and sixty locations in
seventeen states.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
The Aurora franchise is owned by a.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Local guy named Ben fam Pham. That's a Vietnamese name,
as I can tell by looking at it, and it
says he grew up in town and worked at a
faux restaurant, so Vietnamese restaurant in the same shopping center
when he was a kid. And he said Southlands holds
a very special place in my heart. Being able to
come full circle feels incredibly meaningful to me. So there

(39:36):
you go, and the store is open daily from noon
to ten pm.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
So that's that.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I guess I'm going to make a question out of
this for you, what's your favorite ice cream joint? Text
me at five six five six six nine zero and
tell me what's your favorite ice cream place?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
And why?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm not talking about any supermarket ice cream like an
ice cream store you would go to. There's Bonnie Bray
and little Man. My wife and I go to little
Man a lot, there's there's a lot these days. Does
that include like frozen custard or sure?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Any of that?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, any of any of that? Okay, what's that? What's
the one where I wanted to go on Father's Day? No,
I wanted to go on Mother's Day, but my wife
wouldn't wouldn't let me the uh, the the frozen custard
or oh my gosh, frozen custard place?

Speaker 1 (40:27):
What's it called?

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Just for c and is the place that it's Andy's
You wanted to go on Mother's Day?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I was with I was, I could see it, I
could see it.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It was it was a block.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
From where Kristen and I were, and I said, I'd
really like to get a frozen custard. We're right there
and I don't live near it. We just happened to
be over there near it. There's one kind of towards Parker,
and we were near it. There's also one by uh
Santa fe and and Hamden kind of river Point shoppings
and are kind of the west edge of that. And

(41:02):
I said I'd like to get this custard, and she
said it's not Father's Day, and then I didn't get
one on Father's Day either, but I did.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
Remember later and eventually I eventually I got one. But
I really like it. Andy's got some good stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I really really like Andy's frozen custard, Oh my gosh.
And it's so filling you don't have to eat for
days after that, although I still do. Anyway, text me
at five six six nine zero your favorite ice cream
or ice cream like place. Let me see if I
can do this in two and a half minutes, because
I wanted to get to it for a few days

(41:35):
and I just haven't.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is a story from the New York Times from
a few days.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Ago that I think a fascinating business conversation.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Here's the headline.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
When it comes to spotting fake receipts, it's AI versus AI,
and let me share a little of this.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
The reporter's name is Sarah Kesseler.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
It wasn't long after chat gpt began generating realistic images
that an aunt Kale started seeing posts on social media
that explained how chat gpt could be used to generate
a pretty convincing fake receipt.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
This, mister Cale realized was his problem.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
He's the chief executive of company called Appsen that makes
software that is used by finance teams and companies to
manage expenses, and he oversaw the creation of fraud detection
tools that flagged AI generated receipts. But this was different,
he told The New York Times. We were like, oh boy,
this is too easy. Appsen immediately started developing a tool

(42:31):
to detect fake receipts generated by chatbots. And it's not
the only one. And then they go through some other
stuff that I'll skip ahead. But AI generated receipts, one
expert in the industry says, are only going to get
better from here. To combat fraudulent AI, we need to
use AI. So what are we talking about here. We're

(42:53):
talking about typically employees of companies who want to get
money from their companies by turning in receipts for re
i wursements, for expenses that they didn't actually incur, or
for some other reason where it's not quite right. Mister
Kale said, it's common for employees to generate their first
fake receipt to account for a legitimate expense. Maybe they

(43:13):
lost the receipt, but when they don't get caught, they
do it again. Occasionally, the fraud is egregious. Appzen once
detected a batch of AI generated receipts submitted by a
company employee for hotels and airfare in Bangkok, a city that,
upon further investigation, the employee had not visited. The Association

(43:33):
of Certified Fraud Examiners, which certifies about five thousand new
examiners each year, regularly asks members to submit the largest
case of occupational fraud they've investigated in the last eighteen months.
In the most recent survey, about thirteen percent of the
cases involved employees who submitted inflated or invented expenses, which
can lead to criminal charges and check this out. The

(43:54):
median loss was fifty thousand dollars. So I'm not going
to add more on this right now, because you can
go read about it yourself at my website and as
a business. I just kind of wanted to raise it
to you as something to think about it if you're
not thinking.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
About it already. When we come back a conversation.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I am very very much looking forward to Leland Vindert
joins the show.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
He was at the Charlie Kirk memorial event.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
And there's so much to talk about with Leland, one
of my favorite guests, one of my favorite people. That'll
be right after this best show on cable news. It's
called On Balance and it's weeknights at seven pm Mountain Time.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You might not know that.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I think Leland is just an awesome person as well,
and I'm proud to call him a friend. And he's
got a new book out. We're going to get to that.
We have so much stuff to talk about, and I
generally have Leland on two Wednesdays a month. Supposed to
be today, and then they emailed me and said, he's
really busy today, he can't do it. And I thought,
I've never had more to talk with Leland about than
I have today, and so somehow magically in the middle

(45:00):
of why don't you just tell us Leland, like what
you've done to accommodate us today?

Speaker 10 (45:08):
Ross When it's for a friend, it is not an accommodation.
It is my pleasure. Just for fun, tell us what
your day is, just just just for fun. I woke
up in New York City. I just recorded a two
hour podcast with Barry Weiss of The Free Press about
the book Born Lucky, which is available now for order

(45:30):
on Amazon Born luckybook dot Com or on Amazon. Fantastic
conversation about growing up with autism, the current debate about autism,
and my dad's fight to adapt me to the world
rather than the world to me, and the power of
parental love to give hope to families who have kids

(45:52):
struggling and suffering with all sorts of things, not just autism,
but ADHD and anxiety and everything else. So that up,
took the subway up here, planned my show on the subway,
and am now with you for about twenty minutes, and
then I've got to give a speech, and then I've
got to hop on the asella back to DC and

(46:13):
do the show from DC tonight. Unbelievable, So just so
your listeners understand. Yeah, I had asked my staff to
cancel everything today because I was so busy, and that
was a lot of things. And Ross emails and say says,

(46:34):
I've never had more to talk to you about. Can
you do twelve thirty three? So these fourteen minutes where
I was going to eat lunch, I said, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
What, lunch can wait.

Speaker 10 (46:44):
Ross Kaminski and his listeners cannot all be there?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
All right? And folks, I've mentioned this before. I've read
Leland's book, Born Lucky. It's a remarkable read and you
will not want to put it down and you will
find it helpful either for yourself or your family or somebody.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
One other thing I want to mention on Born Lucky Leland,
And then I got a bunch of topics to get
to with you. I've seen you and Bill O'Reilly talking
about a specially you guys were doing. I actually saw
you on Bill O'Reilly's show as well. And Bill O'Reilly
was on my show and mentioned it about a week ago.
Believe it or not, I don't know if you knew that,
So tell us about this special.

Speaker 10 (47:22):
So we're turning the tables right Bill and I have
done a number of specials about his books. We are
doing a special about my book. So this time it's
Bill O'Reilly interviewing me. Which I thought, this is going
to be a controversial book. It's already starting to have
a lot of different conversations about autism and how to
deal with autism, how to talk about autism, the victimhood

(47:44):
mentality in America, everything else. And I thought the only
fair way to deal with it was to have somebody
who was really tough interview me. So Bill O'Reilly interviews
me in this special Born Lucky that's on Sunday night
on News Nation.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Okay, let's see what do I want to start with.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
You know what, as long as we're talking about autism,
let's stick with that for a second. I did see
you talking with Jay Boticharia, and I saw you talking
with Ashish Jaw about this. I don't know what you
call it. Press release statement report from RFK. Donald Trump
got involved as well, associating Thailand all with autism.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I got my own thoughts on it, but.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I want to know what you think about it, maybe
even the bigger picture of the conversation beyond just the
tailan all thing.

Speaker 10 (48:38):
Look, I am not a physician, which is something the
President will not tell you. Therefore, I don't give medical advice,
which probably is a good rule of thumb that medical
advice given a press conferences may not be as exacting,
as precise, and as nuanced as medical advice should be.
That said, what I find very telling is there is

(49:02):
far more interest in demonizing RFK and scoring political points
against Donald Trump than there is in the very necessary
and long overdue focus on finding an answer to why
autism cases in America have exploded.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Okay, And I find it as someone.

Speaker 10 (49:23):
Who went through a personal hell as a child and
inborn Lucky is the story of my parents in the
second week of school in seventh grade, the principal saying
to my parents after they called them in most people
at this school think Lucky is very weird arrow number one,
arrow number two. She followed through with, than I do too,

(49:46):
which is now permission for everyone to stop all over me.
So I find it personally offensive that people in the
medical community, in the scientific community can't even preference their
remarks by saying, hey, finding a reason for the explosion
of autism cases from one in one thousand to one

(50:06):
in thirty six three times hire for boys higher important
minority communities is a worthwhile cause. Every part of this
discussion should that should happen, because you know what, nobody's
been willing to talk about that until now, and talk
about it honestly, it's been one of these things well
just the way it is. And I got to tell you,
you know, if I was given a choice right now,

(50:29):
if my wife were pregnant Rachel, and was given a choice, hey,
you can have an autistic child or not, I would
choose no. Now, the autism community, you'll, you know, say, oh,
you're not being celebratory of neurodivergent people enough. Sorry, everybody
has enough challenges in life. If we can figure this out,
it would be the scientific answer of our time. We
figured out a's, we figured out a lot of cancers.

(50:50):
We can build bionic people, we figured out diabetes.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Now is the time to pay attention to this.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, and I look, I obviously you went through that
hell and I did, and I cannot imagine what well
I can imagine a little bit what it was like
because I read your story in Born Lucky. So that's
the extent to which I can. I can imagine it.
And these are hugely important and legitimate questions. And part
of me is concerned that by Trump and RFK doing

(51:17):
what they're doing, especially with this tailean All thing, which
I suspect I don't know, I suspect is wrong, they
might actually be hurting your cause and their own claimed cause.

Speaker 10 (51:29):
Well fine, but that's because the media and people who
hate Trump are using that as the excuse. In twenty seventeen,
tailand All put out a tweet saying, if you're pregnant,
don't take tailan off. So the science is not quote
unquote settled. Okay, And I'm old enough to remember when
the science was settled that said that, you know, if

(51:50):
you got the vaccine, you didn't get COVID. And these
are the same people now who are saying, hey, take
tailand All by the bucket fall. And there's all these
TikTok women who are pregnant, you know, dancing around chewing
tailan awe as a.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Way to own the president. Okay, And I'm and.

Speaker 10 (52:05):
I'm sorry that the science is not settled. I've talked
to doctors on all sides of this. There is a
lot of different evidence out there. You know, again, I'm
not I love the We're gonna make perfect the Enemy
of Great concept here, but it is very It is
so telling that somehow it's.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Donald Trump and rfk's.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Fall for looking for an answer, right, And look, I
think they should be looking for answers. I just have.
I'm very skeptical of the first thing they came out
with here, but that's not that important. Folks were speaking
with Leland Viddert. You got to watch his show. It's
called On Balance weeknights at seven pm. It plays again
at ten pm here in the Mountain time zone. And

(52:47):
of course his tremendous uh daily newsletter daily when he
has a show, is called war Notes, and you can
go to war notes dot com to subscribe there for free,
and it's it'll make you smarter, and you will and
you will enjoy it. It's kind of his show. You
kind of get inside Leland's brain. I watched exclusively your
coverage of the Charlie Kirk memorial, and I think there

(53:12):
is something interesting about, you know, having a friend covering
this and trying to imagine what's going through your mind.
And I wanted to ask you, you know, on the air,
what that experience was like.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
For you.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I don't want you to really report. I'm not asking
you to function as a reporter. Here's more of a
personal question. What was it like for you and what
do you feel like you learned.

Speaker 10 (53:34):
I learned that the intersection of faith and politics in
America have merged in a way that is greater than
Donald Trump. How do I know that because when Erica
Kirk aught, there was a emotion in that stadium unlike

(53:54):
anything that I've ever felt at any event I've ever
been at in my whole life, and I've been to
a lot of things. Probably the next closest was the
roar from the crowd in Taperer Square when Mubarak resigned
during the Egyptian Revolution.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
But it's a distant second.

Speaker 10 (54:13):
And I also learned that when Donald Trump got up
and started politicking and talking about how he didn't forgive
his enemies and he hated his enemies, and on and on.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Half the crowd walked out.

Speaker 10 (54:24):
So that's why being a report and being in the
room is really important. Yes, if you read ward notes,
if you'd read war notes, you would have seen that.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
But you see. But the second part that I learned.

Speaker 10 (54:40):
Is that the Republicans right now are overplaying their hand hell,
because they are trying to do onto others what has
been done on to them. And that's not what Charlie
Kirk was a in the power of his movement, and

(55:02):
it's a subtle nuance, but was how positive he was,
how he didn't demonize his enemies. It is a remarkably
powerful message, even for someone like me who does not
subscribe to the same religious views as he does, or
views religion in the same way that he did. But

(55:23):
Republicans now using this as a license to sort of
do onto others what has been done on to them,
to me, is a bad overplaye of their hand.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, I agree, and just generally I think that politically
and in other ways, the public is much more open
to and accepting of a happy warrior than an angry
person who might have roughly the same message. And Charlie
Kirk was most of the time, not that I was
a close follower, but most of the time seemed like

(55:54):
a happy warrior, and certainly when he was on college campuses,
he seemed like.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
A happy warrior.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
And you get all these people, as you say, you know, angry, bitter, vengeful,
I think would be a good word in using in
Charlie's name, and I agree with you, it's probably not
going to work out very well. Do you. Did you
get a better sense of So you and I are

(56:19):
both not really Charlie Kirk type people, but I thought,
just by watching you interviewing these people that that you
were getting a much better sense of what they're like.
I don't know very many people like that, and I
wonder what you know what you came to understand about
them as people.

Speaker 10 (56:41):
Number One, that mocking them and ridiculing them as the
Left is doing is enormous mistake, and much of that
comes from the fact that the media that they consume
doesn't understand Middle America dot dot dot. There was a
writer for The Atlantic. The Atlantic, for those of you

(57:01):
who don't know, is like a Bible for the elite,
in the same way a Bible is what.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
A priest looks at. It's that type of relationship.

Speaker 10 (57:10):
And the Atlantic writer put up pictures of the Charlie
Kirk memorial and said, I would feel more at home,
and I feel like I understand Greece more than I
understand the folks at that service. Says everything about The
Atlantic and it's writers and nothing about the people who
are at Charlie Kirk's memorial.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Look, Donald Trump loves to talk about crowd sizes.

Speaker 10 (57:35):
Charlie Kirk filled the football stadium. Donald Trump fill the
football stadium. Ever covered him for a long time. What
we saw on Sunday was unlike anything we've ever seen
in American politics, modern American politics.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
And to not.

Speaker 10 (57:53):
Understand the nuance of that message for both sides, and
I think for Democrats who are ridiculing it, the same
thing applies is a Collissil strategic error.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Folks, watch Leland Vernter Show on Balance tonight and every
weeknight at seven pm at replays at ten pm. Go
to warnotes dot com and subscribe, and go to born
luckybook dot com.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
The book is.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Coming out in less than a week now, and you
will be very glad you read it, and you will
want to read it and share it with other people.
Born luckybook dot com and then NewsNation this Sunday evening,
Bill O'Reilly will be interviewing Leland Venter about the book
and a very special episode that I will be watching
again Sunday evening on NewsNation. Leland, thank you so much

(58:35):
for making time. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
Bross for you and your listeners always, and I keep
thinking about just Tim and get back to de En
for some time.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Well, we'll see you when you do. Enjoy the rest
of your time in New York and get home safely.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Thanks buddy, all right, we'll see okay.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
So that's Leland vind again born luckybook dot com. Really
really good book. I could have talked to him for longer,
but he's got to get on with this day was
something his people emailed me and said he's canceling everything
today and I said, no, I can't. I gotta have him.
I gotta have them. Anyway, I hope you found that interesting.
He's just he's a very interesting guy. And when you

(59:12):
read the book, I'm just gonna just mention me here.
When you read the book, you will understand that when
he just said I went through hell as a kid,
he is not exaggerating what Leland Vennert went through as
a kid. It's hard to imagine very many people going

(59:36):
through that and coming out as quote unquote normal, functional,
healthy people. He's so lucky he had the father that
he did. Oh my gosh, he's so luckily.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Not just the.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Personality of the father, but also some other things like
his dad, as you learn in the book, was highly
motivated from a young age to be a very successful
entrepreneur and wanted to be a millionaire by.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
The time he was twenty five or something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
And this is a long time ago when being a
millionaire was really meant something. You know, lots of millionaires.
Now a million dollars isn't what he used. It's still good,
but it isn't what he used to be. But Land,
Leland's dad accomplished that. And therefore, at some point, you know,
when it became clear that Leland had serious problems, like
he didn't talk until he was three, for example.

Speaker 11 (01:00:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
But when it became clear that Leland had serious problems
and that the world was going to be a big
challenge for him, the dad retired just to take care
of his son. And it's not like at home care.
It's taking him out and teaching him how to adapt,
how to be in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's an incredible story.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
It really is. Born luckybook dot com. I'm not just
telling you that because my friend wrote it. Let me
switch gears and do a little bit of inside baseball politics.
You may have heard at some point of a congressman
from Arizona named Raoul Grijalva g r i ja l Va.

(01:01:05):
He was in Congress for quite a long time, I believe,
and he passed away and there was a special election
yesterday to fill that seat and it was won by
his daughter, at Alita gri Haalva. So it's no changing party.
They're both Democrats. You might ask Ross, why does this matter?

(01:01:27):
And I'll tell you the reason that it matters. Thomas
Massey and who's he's working with on the Democrats side,
Rocanna of California.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Have this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Document sitting there, this bill, I guess you'd call it
called it's not exactly a bill, called a discharge petition,
And what it means is it is a way for
members of the House of Representatives to force the House
of Representatives to take a vote on something, even if
the Speaker of the House normally controls what comes up
for a vote doesn't want it to come up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
For a vote.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So if you can get a majority of the members
to vote yes on a discharge petition, you can overrule
the will of the Speaker of the House and force something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
To come up for a vote.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Thomas Massey, Thomas Massey, and Rocanna want a discharge petition
to force the release of essentially all information related to
Jeffrey Epstein. There are plenty of Republicans on the House
Oversight Committee who're really pissed about this, and they say

(01:02:31):
the House Overside Committee is doing a really thorough, deep
dive investigation, gathering real data, and what Massey is trying
to do is unnecessary. I don't know why Massey is
trying to do this. I know why the Democrat is
trying to do it. The Democrat is trying to do
it because Trump doesn't want it done. So there's the
Democrats don't really care anything at all about Epstein, but

(01:02:52):
they're just it's pure politics. As for Massey, maybe he's
just mad at Trump. They haven't gotten along very well
in a while, so maybe and and Trump is the
threatened to support a primary challenge to Massey, So maybe
Massey is just you know, sticking it back right at him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
But so they've got this discharge petition and in order
for it to pass, they need one more vote.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
They need one more vote.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
They have every Democrat and they have four Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Massey himself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Marjorie Taylor Green lunatic, Nancy Mace from South Carolina used
to be cool now lunatic, and Lauren Bobert m Lauren
Bobert real close to Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
That's interesting, but they're one signature short.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
There was that vacancy in Raoul Grihalva's seat that's builled now,
and as soon as Adelita Grihalva gets sworn into office,
she'll sign that discharge petition. And as long as one
of the Republicans don't back off, and they probably won't,

(01:04:06):
but who knows what pressure Trump might put on them.
But as long as they don't back off, this thing
will pass. And then the vote will pass the House
by a narrow majority with all Democrats and just a
few Republicans, but it'll be enough to pass, and then
whatever comes out will come out. And it's all really

(01:04:29):
it's all designed by the Dems as a way to
discomfit Donald Trump. The Republicans who are signing on to it,
I guess I'm going to give them, except maybe Thomas Massey,
I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt
to say they want it out because they really believe
the information needs to be out. But in any case,

(01:04:50):
if you were wondering why, I would tell you about
the results of a special election in Arizona where one
Democrat replaces another. That's why quite frequently when I mentioned
Regen Revolution and I've been to Regen Revel, like yesterday,
I was at Regent Revolution yesterday, I get text or
emails from listeners saying, Okay, Ross, you talk about this

(01:05:11):
regenitive medicine quite a bit, but what really is it?
And actually in the in the in the last conversation
on the show with Leland Vidder, we were talking about
how people who aren't in the medical profession probably shouldn't
be saying too much about medical stuff. So I've invited
Rachel Anders, who is the owner of Regent Revolution, to

(01:05:32):
join me and a nurse practitioner as well, Roslin from
Region Revolution, to just talk just for a few minutes
about this because I find it fascinating as the cutting
edge of medicine, and I would also like to know
more about myself. So to both of you, welcome to
the show, and thanks for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Being here, thanks for having us on. I'm going to
just start with that basic question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
In a sense it's contained in the term but could
you just help us understand regenerative medicine a little better.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
So regenerative medicine, we're using stem cells or we're using
your own bodies play leveraged plasma to go into different
parts of the body. We also have exosomes that we're
able to do through an ebilizer to do it that
way or through the IV. But what it does is
it goes into your body. It does cause a mild
inflammatory reaction, which you know has your body sin cells

(01:06:32):
to the area to repair, regenerate, regrow, rebuild. And then
what we're putting into the body, either whether it's your
plasma or the stem cells, they are doing that work
as well because they have regrowth factors, rebuilding factors, rebuilding factors.
So it's just an amazing way to help improve your

(01:06:54):
body's function and repair and regrow or what area that
you may have had tear break down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Right, And what's kind of not kind of what's fascinating
to me about this is we tend to think of our.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Bodies as as things that heal themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Right, If I if I get a cut, after a while,
you know it'll you know, first it'll stop bleeding and
then it'll scab.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
And then the scab will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Go away, and then maybe I do or maybe I
don't have a scar, and then it's gone, and then
I'm healed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
And yet there are these parts of the body.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
You know, maybe tendon, tendons, ligaments, rotator, cut I don't know,
things that for some reason don't heal themselves. And you know,
regenerative medicine in a way feels like a magic trick
to me. And I don't mean that in a bad way,
like in an awesome way, like to get the body
to heal something that normally maybe it didn't notice need
to be healed, or I don't know why I didn't notice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Can you elaborate on that a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Well.

Speaker 11 (01:07:52):
I think one of the biggest things that we hear
a lot in this field in terms of the osteo
are right. Part of it is ligaments, tendons, cartilage, These
things are all made up of type two collagen, which
we is very hard to get. You can't get type
two collagen in the diet. So the only time your

(01:08:14):
body has a lot of type two collagen in it
is coming from the umbilical cord. It's when you're a baby,
so that you can grow into a full sized baby maybe,
but once you're fully grown, you don't really have a
lot of type two collagen left in your body once
those tissues are established, and so when they start to

(01:08:35):
break down, the building blocks for healing, like your skin
and the scab you were referring to, just aren't there anymore.
And so these products that we get from Wharton's jelly,
which is the substance that's in the umbilical cord, is
loaded with type two collagen and all the growth factors
that go along with it. And so stem cells are

(01:08:56):
kind of a popular term these days, but really the
magic is happening with the materials that are alongside those
stem cells in the umbilical cord, which include the type
two collagen and the growth factors. And now, you know,
like you said, this field is so cutting edge, but

(01:09:16):
they're just more and more and more studies coming out
of ways that we can speed up this healing process,
and so that's what we're committed to doing. And Ross,
like you and I talked about the other day, adding
exosomes into the mix here is kind of what probably
the latest thing that we've started doing here at Region

(01:09:36):
Revolution that just even speeds up this process and has
even a wider use of applications just than repairing collagen
type two collagen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
All right, so I've got about just over a minute
left here. As a science nerd, I would like to
know what exosomes are.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
So they are the cells taken out of the Whorton's jelly,
the outside layer of the biblical cord, you know, fresh,
brand new cells that help deliver nutrients to grow a human. Right,
So they're the freshest, purest form of cells.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
And that's what they do.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
They can contain insulin factors, growth factors, rebuilding factors, all
these different cido kinds which help prevent aid and inflammation,
and just all the building cells.

Speaker 11 (01:10:26):
To enhance what we're And for people who are less
of the science nerd that YouTube, you don't know what
all those words mean. The layman's terminology for this that
I think is easiest to just.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
They're signaling cells.

Speaker 11 (01:10:40):
So these are cells that are just improving the signaling
back and forth from your body to the brain and
the brain to the body about what to do. And
so when we put all these growth factors in there,
and we put this type two collagen in there, and
then we add the signaling cells. Well, now things are
starting to go a lot faster and having a wider
spread effect, you know, on a lot of different types

(01:11:03):
of functions in the body.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Just last quick question, I've got a few seconds left.
Here are the are the primary uses for xisomes kind
of the same as the primary uses for let's say,
p R P or is there just maybe some overlap,
but also a lot of a lot of difference.

Speaker 11 (01:11:23):
It depends on the exisomes. So exisomes can be drawn
from about two different places, you know, in the amphilical cord.
And some exisomes are used externally, so we use them
for aesthetics or to regrow hair or for facial rejuvenation.
Some exisomes are then used for to inhale. Like Roslin

(01:11:44):
was saying at the beginning of this. We we administer
them through a nebulizer, and that's to treat you know,
the central nervous system because you breathe it in, so
that can help treat things like you know, brain fog,
things like that that we just associate with aging. And
then there are other xi zomes that we put in

(01:12:04):
alongside the regenerative treatment that helps speed up the healing
from the type two collagen injections that we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Wow, it really is the cutting edge of the frontier
of medicine. Getting your body don It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
It is, it's pretty It.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Is pretty awesome getting your body to heal itself when
it otherwise wouldn't. And anyway, this stuff is just fascinating.
It's Rachel and Roslin from from Regen Revolution. The website
is regenrev dot com. Again I was I was just
there yesterday. Sorry I asked for you, Rachel, but I
think you weren't around or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
But I'll see you next time I come out yesterday.

Speaker 11 (01:12:41):
Sorry I missed you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I'll see you next time. Thanks to both of
you for being here. Thanks, ros all right, yeah you too,
all right. So yeah, I get these questions all the
time from listeners what what's regenerative medicine and what do
they use and what are you treating? And I hopefully
got you know, a little bit of clarity there if
you were one of the folks asking those questions. But
it is a pretty complicated area, so I think I

(01:13:04):
still have more to learn as well. But anyway, I
hope you found that interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
We'll be right back. I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Huh your show sheet. I know I had something else
I wanted to do, but now I have to do this, right. No, no, no,
this was in your show sheet at this time. There
was nothing else you wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
You wanted to do this. Didn't you send me this
story to begin with?

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Did? Yeah, that's that's what all right, Now we understand
what's going on here? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
This is from a wacky website called audity Central that
often has some very interesting stories. I think the zebra
I think the zebra stripes on the cows the other
day were from Audity Central, the one. The one thing
that annoys me about this site is they will post
stuff as if it's new and it turns out to
be really old. But if I haven't seen it before,
it's still kind of cool. This one, I suspect is

(01:13:51):
still sort of new and it's a little wacky. I
don't know if you've if you've been to Asia, right
that Asians?

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I want to I want to put this carefully. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
In Asian cultures, there are a lot of fashion trends,
culture trends, especially among the young people. They are young people,
young adults that are very very different from anything we're
used to hear and some and you might think, if
you're an American, you go, you know, see what twenty
three year olds are you doing in Japan or doing
in Koiry. You know, I'm sure some Americans would think

(01:14:21):
that's a little odd. They probably think what we do
is a little odd in any case. From oddity central
engraving symbols and images on your teeth sounds like a
bad idea if you value oral health. But tooth tattoos
are not quite as stupid as they sound. They're not
tattooed directly on the teeth, but on the surface of
a crown, made using three D printing technology and then

(01:14:44):
placed over the real tooth. One of the main appeals
is that unlike skin tattoos, which can't easily be removed,
tooth tattoos can be changed by simply.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Replacing the crown.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
While some believe that skin tattoos are outdated and tooth
tattoo are a new and cool way to express oneself,
others simply opt for it. When offered as a service
by a dental clinic, instead of a bland crown, they
can get a personalized model that makes them stand out
or brings them good luck, and they show some examples
here of folks with Actually it looks like kanji. It

(01:15:18):
looks like Japanese or Chinese characters, tat you know, engrave,
not exact.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I don't know what it is. I guess we'll call
it tattooed on the tooth and then and then when.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
You when you smile, And it's not on the front
teeth in these pictures, but I'm sure they can. But
it would be on like an incisor or something that's
slightly off to the side, so that if you open
your mouth, you talk, you smile, you definitely see it.
It's just not right at the front. But obviously I'm
sure you could put it in the front. So here's
my question for you. If you were going to get
a little something put on a tooth as a design,

(01:15:49):
a little tooth tattoo of your own, what would you put,
What would you put?

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
What would you want on there? I haven't spent much.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Time thinking about it, but maybe I will in the
next few month. And that's I want you to text
me at five six six nine zero and tell me
your thoughts. One other quick thing I wanted to mention
A whole bunch of people emailed questions about that last
conversation with the folks at Regain Revolution. Many people actually
had the same question the source of the stem cells,

(01:16:18):
the source of the umbilical cells, and that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Sort of thing, and if you have a question. I tried.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I think I tried to reply to every single person
who texted in with a question like that. And what
I said was, if you have a question about any
of that, shoot me your question by email, and that's
Ross at iHeartMedia dot com. I guess I didn't put
my email address in my text, but hopefully people know

(01:16:46):
it Ross at iHeartMedia dot com to shoot me your
question and I will get you an answer and I
will reply by email.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
All right, So if you've got questions about any of that.
One person said, I thought stem cells therapy where.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
It was illegal in the US. Definitely not illegal in
the US. There are FDA regulations around it. Okay, I
still have so much stuff to get to and I'm
only going to have about eighteen minutes or something left
you left with you when we get back. So we'll
take quick break right now, come back and talk about
some other things, including I do want to come back

(01:17:19):
to some conversation about and audio from Jimmy Kimmel's return yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
I got some thoughts on that. We'll do it next.
Is it wednesday? Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
All day?

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Long time, midnight, give or take, Give or take. For
those for those folks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Who are still listening who were listening to my conversation
with Rachel from Regent Revolution, probably eight or ten people
asked what are.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
The sources of these cells?

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
And then Dragon and Mandy both gave me the same answer,
which makes me comfortable saying it on the air because
I didn't know it, but since they both heard it
directly from the folks at Region Room Revolution, the answer
is the stuff they talked about called Wharton's jelly, which
sort of a form of stem cell or x's home
or whatever, and stem cells. I'm just gonna quote Mandy

(01:18:09):
with Dragons said the same thing are from donated placentas
from healthy baby deliveries.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Dragon, is that the same thing you said to me?
That sounds exactly the same. Okay, So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
I was gonna ask this question of Rachel when she
was on, and the reason I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Is we had such a short time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
But there was some significant controversy now five years ago,
eight years ago about the sources of stem cells, and
it kind of put a little bit of a crimp
in the industry overall. And a lot of these folks
are just looking to make sure that any stem cells
they use come from sources that nobody objects to or

(01:18:48):
almost nobody objects to. So these are from donated placentas,
from healthy baby deliveries. All right, A couple other things
I want to mention to you. So I got it
very early this morning. I wrote a note on my substack,
and I hope you will go over to Rosskominsky dot

(01:19:09):
substack dot com and and subscribe and read this note
that I wrote this morning. And I actually I want
to I want to see if I can get this going.
I want to see if I can do one thing
here before all right, I'm gonna try this dragon. I
don't know if it's gonna work, but can you can
you put my audio up please? I'm gonna see see
if if you can even hear this, if you can

(01:19:30):
understand it, Just text me if you think you know
who this is, who's speaking.

Speaker 9 (01:19:37):
You know of the American columns in the city of
bag Then they tried to come from the area of Eldora.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
And to.

Speaker 9 (01:19:55):
The Jewels us about columns some thanks they were, they
were there and their columns were slaughtered.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
All right, that's enough.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
So who do you do? You know who that is?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Do you know who that is?

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Could you even understand what he was talking about? Dragon
or was it just too out of context for you
to I think it's a bit out of context.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Okay, So this is somebody talking about Americans showing up
in Iraq at the beginning of the Iraq War and saying, oh,
some people said that the Americans were over there and
came in with a bunch of tanks, but actually they tried,
but they were all slaughtered.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
That that's what this person is saying. So do you
know who this is?

Speaker 7 (01:20:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
No, so this is I don't know his name.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I don't know his name, but he was a spokesperson
for the Saddam Hussein government who came to be known
in America as Bagdad Bob, and Bagdad Bob was famous
for saying the most ridiculous nonsense about how everything was
going just fine and the Americans were not just losing

(01:21:08):
but getting utterly wiped out by the brave Iraqi military,
when in fact, it was exactly the opposite, Like the
Iraqi military barely fought at all. They just they fled
and it was much easier anyway. Bagdad Bob, Okay, that's
Bagdad Bob and I talked a little bit about this yesterday.
Yesterday was kind of a heavy day for me in
terms of it was a first principles day on the show.

(01:21:31):
And I wrote a piece this morning at my substack again,
Rosskominski dot substack dot com, and it's entitled Bagdad Bob
and the Thought Police. And I think that this is
one of the more important notes that I've written. You know,
I don't think I want to be really clear, I
don't think that everything I write or say. In fact,

(01:21:53):
I don't think that very much that I write or
say is important. I hope that some of it's entertaining interesting,
something that's not the same as being important. I think
that this piece is kind of important, and I hope
you will go to Rosskiminsky dot substack dot com and
read it and subscribe.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Again, it's free to subscribe. And my take in this piece, So.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
When I talk about Bagdad Bob and come back to
something I mentioned yesterday, So the Pentagon has put in
new requirements for the Pentagon press core that would that
would say that if you are going to report from
the Pentagon, you can only report.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Something that was approved by a Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Bureaucrat, which is basically to say you could only report
Pentagon press releases. And so what Pete Hegseth is trying
to do is turn the American Pentagon Press Corps into
a whole bunch of Bagdad Bob's because all they're gonna
put out is their own propaganda and stuff to either

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protect or glorify politicians or bureaucrats or generals. And by
the way, I say this as somebody who loves the
American military. Both of my parents served in the United
States military. I love the American military. So what I'm
saying is not an attack on the military at all.

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But when you've got the Secretary of Defense he likes
to call himself the Secretary of War, when you've got
this guy telling reporters if you report even unclassified information
that we didn't explicitly sign a little note for you,
like a hall pass saying that you could report, we

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might prosecute you. Now, no reporter, at least no decent
reporter would sign such a thing, partly because it would
be unethical to sign it, and partly because, as a
member of the Pentagon Press Corps said in a note
to me that I shared with you yesterday, it's a
trap and so we're not gonna have good reporting from

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the Pentagon if this stays as it is now, I'm
gonna move on from there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I could keep going on that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Part, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna because this is a
bigger picture thing. Then I talked about Brendan Carr, and
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
To Jimmy Kimmel in a minute, but we're gonna talk
about Brendan Carr.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Who because he didn't like something, and I didn't like
it either, what Jimmy Kimmel said. I thought what Jimmy
Kimmel said was terrible. I didn't like it either. But
Brendan Carr, who's now the head of the FCC, decided
to make it ultra political and say we can do
this the easy way, or we can do this the
hard way, and something needs to be done about Jimmy Kimmel.

(01:24:46):
And I wanted Jimmy Kimmel to be suspended. I don't
care that much whether he gets fired whatever I thought,
he absolutely positively deserved to be suspended for what he said.
But once Brendan Carr opened his big mouth, all of
a sudden, I don't care at all about Jimmy Kiml anymore.
I don't care about what he said. I don't care
about who was offended, who was offended by it. I
don't care about whether it was right or wrong. It's

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completely irrelevant, irrelevant. Jimmy Kimmel is a comedian with many, many,
many more viewers than I have listeners. It's true he's
on national television and I'm not. But he is of
little consequence. He's got his modest audience of twenty eight
year old man bun and left wing women who want

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to watch this stuff. And I don't watch it and
I don't care, and it doesn't impact my life at all.
And even the nonsense, the terrible stuff that he said
in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk being killed, even that
I don't care. Why should I care. I don't have
to care about everything. You don't have to care about everything.
But when the head of the FCC jumps in and

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tries to tell a private company no, no, no, you
can't have someone saying that now all of a sudden,
I care.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Now I care.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
We gotta get in my thought process. Jimmy Kimmel has
to go back on the air. Absolutely has to. I'm
not saying he has to stay there for a long time.
I don't care one way or another. But he has
to go back on the air as a message to
Brendan Carr that you can't do that. That is unconstitutional,
That is corrosive to the foundation of our country. Just

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like Pete Hagsath's thing with the new rules for reporters
that the Pentagon, and just like Pam Bondi's thing where
she said that she's going to sick the Justice Department
on anybody who targets someone with hate speech. And now
she tried to clean it up later and she tried
to say, oh, she just meant if you were threatening somebody,

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but that's not what she said.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
And it's not what she meant.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
And what's frustrating about this is that these people know
better now. I think Pete hag Seth was kind of
of that mindset already, but Brendan Carr used to have
it right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Let me read this to you and I'm quoting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
Political satire is one of the oldest and most important
forms of free speech. It challenges those in power while
using humor to draw more people into the discussion. That's
why people in influential positions have always targeted it for censorship.
That's Brendan Carr from a few years ago before he
became chairman, when Joe Biden was president. And I realize that,

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and I truly believe that what Jimmy Kimmel said about
Republicans trying to score political points by denying that the
shooter was MAGA when the shooter wasn't Mega, and Jimmy
either knew it or should have known it. That wasn't
actually satire. It wasn't making a joke. It was just
a very terrible statement of false fact.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
It was a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
But still Carr is always known this stuff is all
protected by the First Amendment, and his stuff about serving
the public interest, he's misconstruing it. And so you got
all the conservatives misunderstanding what the public interest standard means
for broadcasting, and it does not mean what you think
it means.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
It does not mean they need to be fair and balanced.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Donald Trump says, well ninety seven percent about the of
the talk about me on the broadcast networks are negative.
And I don't know if that number is right, but
he says ninety seven percent is negative, and that means
it's not free speech. That's not true. That's not true.
All free speech means is government isn't telling you what
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Nothing else matters.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
And so when you've got these people jumping in and saying,
you know, Pam Bondy, We're gonna go after you if
you say something I don't like, Brendan Carr, We're gonna
go after you if you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Say something I don't like Pete Hegseth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
We're not gonna let you report on stuff unless we
approve it, even if it's not classified. This stuff is dangerous.
It's very wrong, and it's very dangerous. Joe Rogan, who
has a lot of influence with MAGA people, said, I
definitely don't that the government should be involved ever in

(01:29:02):
dictating with what a comedian can and cannot stay in
a monologue. That's effing crazy. Joe Rogan added this, now
he's talking to MAGA people, you're crazy for supporting this
because this will be used on you. You don't think
that the bleeping globalist lizard people who run the world

(01:29:23):
are sitting here going great, what do we got three years?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
We'll wake this out, We'll wake this out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Let them say government should be involved in censoring people's speech.
Absolutely right, Absolutely right, haam BONDI talks about hate speech.
That's not even a real thing. I mean, it's not
a thing in law, right. I mean, you could in
your own mind try to decide what you think is
hate speech, but there's nothing in law about it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
And here and so again, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Go to Rosskominsky dot substack dot com, the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
Piece is called Bagdad Bob in the thought Police.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
And here's my main point, though, it's not just picking
on those people, because I've done enough that already. And
I mentioned in this the thing I mentioned on the
show yesterday. I was inspired to put it in the
article because I talked about it on the show. And
the concept of politics is not sports. And it's not
okay to cheer for Donald Trump or any other politician

(01:30:18):
or any of their lackeys as if they're the Denver Broncos,
because the Denver Broncos can't tell you what you can
or can't say, or how to run your business, or
how to raise your kids, or how much money of
yours they're going to deduct from your paycheck. The only
thing that matters in the long run is standing up

(01:30:38):
for the Constitution and demanding that your politicians do so.
Now Here is I think the key point, even though
it's not the majority of the piece, it's the key
point I wanted to make, and that is the Left
doesn't care about any of this. They've never cared about
the Constitution. They don't pretend, they rarely even pretend to
care about the Constitution. They just want more power for
government and more power over you. So if there's going

(01:31:01):
to be any pushback to try to restore a Republican
administration to respect for the Constitution, it has to come
from Republicans. It has to the only one of prominence
who really got out there. Well, I shouldn't say that
there were a few. There were a few, but the
most prominent was Ted Cruz, and Ted Cruz really pushed

(01:31:25):
back hard against Brendan Carr.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
We need a lot more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I want our Colorado members of Congress, Jeff Hurd, Lauren Bobert,
Jeff Crank, gab Evans, I want them all to stand
up unfailingly for the Constitution, even if it means criticizing
Donald Trump, and do it gently. Do it gently, criticize

(01:31:51):
them gently, but say something. I know you don't have
the courage to come out full throated.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
It's fine, it's politics. You do what you have to
do to save your job and run in the next election.
But not at the expense of your oath of office,
which was to protect and defend.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
The Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Saving the Constitution against this particular kind of attack can
only come from conservatives. Let me share with you just
a little bit more from Jimmy Kimmel last night.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
This show is not important. What is important is that we.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Get to live in a country that allows us to
have a show like this. I mean, I've had the
opportunity to meet and spend time with comedians and talk
show hosts from countries like Russia, countries in the Middle
East who told me they would get thrown in prison

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for making fun of those in power.

Speaker 5 (01:32:48):
Hoom.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Worse than being thrown in prison, they know how lucky
we are here. Our freedom to speak is what they
admire most about this country. And that's something I'm embarrassed
to say I took for granted until they pulled my
friends even off the air and try to coerce the
affiliates who run our show in the cities that you
live in to take my show off the air.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
That's not legal, that's not American, that is un american.

Speaker 10 (01:33:12):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Let me elaborate on that a little bit, to the
extent that individuals is said to such and such a
network here, I really don't like this guy, and you
know we're not going to watch anymore until he's gone.
That's not illegal, and you're welcome to try. If government
is doing it, that is illegal. I think it's unconstitutional.

(01:33:36):
But we do need to separate in all things. We
need to separate what's okay for the government to do
and what's okay for private.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
People to do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
For example, my employer, iHeartMedia, can tell me, hey, Ross,
you cannot say this or that on the air. Not
Just to be clear, they have never told me that, right.
All they have ever said is don't violate FCC rules,
don't break the law. They've never told but they could.
They're a private employer. Your boss can say to you

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or here's another example that most employers have if you do,
if you say something, especially in public, that is embarrassing
and could bring disrepute on the company because you said
something that was just you shouldn't have said it. It
makes you look bad, and by extension, it makes the
company look bad.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
They can fire you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
And there is no First Amendment protection all of these amendments, right,
And what we talk about in the First Amendment free
free speech, free exercise of religion, for example. The Amendment
themselves is a prohibition against government.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Infringing on these liberties.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
It is not that a private person or your employer,
for example, couldn't do anything. And that's what we really
need to keep in mind. Jimmy Kimmel did add a
little bit of humor.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
A lot of people have.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Been asking me if there are conditions for my return
to the air, and there is one. He has asked
me to read the following statement, and I agreed to
do it.

Speaker 10 (01:35:06):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
To reactivate your Disney Plus.

Speaker 12 (01:35:10):
And Hudo account, open, open the Disney Plus app.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
On your smart team. You know, way, I get it.
That's I gotta say. That's pretty funny. All right. Last
thing I want to share with you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I hate, Okay, I really am very resentful that Brendan Carr,
who I like and I've had him on the show
many times, and I met with him in his office
in Washington, d C. At the FCC before he was chairman.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I like Brendan Carr, and so I'm particularly resentful that
a guy who.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
I have respected so much for so long would.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Put me in a position of having to be on
the side of Jimmy Kimmel because he had to open
his big mouth and suggest something unconstitutional. Jimmy Kimmel said
this that unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
And I think unjustly, this puts.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Them at risk.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
The President of the United States made it very clear
he wants to see me and the hundreds of people
who work here fired from our jobs. Our leader celebrates
Americans losing their livelihoods because he can't take a joke.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Somehow able to squeeze Colbert out of CBS.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Danny turned his sights on me, and now he's openly
rooting for NBC to fire Jimmy Fallon and Seth Myers
and the hundreds of Americans who work for their shows
who don't make millions of dollars. And I hope that
if that happens, or if there's even any hint of
that happening, you will be ten times as loud as
you were this week. We have to speak out against

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this thought because.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Like I said, I'm with Jimmy Kimmel on this, and
I hate that Brendan Carr put me in a position
of having to defend and support Jimmy Kimmel. I don't
support any of the stuff that got him in to
this trouble. He definitely deserved to be suspended, and I
like to hope that ABC would have suspended him, but
by the government getting involved in threatening his employer, we

(01:37:09):
will never know whether the employer would have suspended him
or not because the government did something or threatened something unconstitutional.
And again I want to say to all of my
conservative and MAGA friends and listeners, it's up to you
to push back on this because liberals don't care about

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the Constitution and Trump will only care and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
About what his own base says.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
And if his own base is to let the Constitution
get destroyed, this is going to end badly, and surprisingly
it'll be the fault of conservatives.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Manby, do you want to add anything. Our team isn't
always going to be in charge. Just remember that. What
do you got coming up? I got a couple things.

Speaker 11 (01:37:54):
We're gonna talk to the folk excuse me from the
thirteenth floor the Haunted House. And we've got weather Wednesday,
so we're gonna find out how much snowfell in the mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Awesome, everybody stick around for Mandy's fabulous show. Oh one
quick thing, Kyle Clark read my substack. He invited me
to be on next tonight, So you will see me
on Next on nine News tonight talking about what I
just talked with you about right there.