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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I want to do something different now.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Very pleased to welcome back to the show, Leslie Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
She's been on with me multiple times over the years.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
On various political issues and gun rights issues. She is
a co founder of a group called We the Second,
which is a nonpartisan group that advocates for Second Amendment rights,
for gun rights for Colorado's and Leslie joins us to
talk about Senate Bill three, or more precisely, Senate Bill
(00:29):
twenty five DASH zero zero three Colorado assault weapons semi
auto gun ban, which is not only a worse bill
than the ones we've seen in recent years, it also
has a higher chance of passing than the ones in
recent years that were bad but not as bad as this,
at least I think Leslie will tell me if I
have that wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Hi, Leslie, good morning, and thanks for having me on
ros Yeah, glad to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
What do we need to know about the details of
the bill, and then what do we need to know
about the process around the bill where maybe some listeners
can try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Sure so, I think people need to understand that, like
you said, this is a worse bill than we face
the last two years. What makes this bill different is
that they are doing a blanket ban on semi automatic
rifles and shotguns that take a detachable magazine, and then
guests operated pistols that take a detachable magazine.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
In the recent years.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And actually in assault of bands that we've seen in
other states like California, Illinois, places like that, they require
the detachable magazine part, but then they also require coupling
that with some other features the gun might have, like.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
A pistol grip or a barrel shroud.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And so this doesn't require those features. This is a
blanket van rifles and shotguns. If they can take a
detachable magazine, they are banned. The pistols is a little
more nuanced. They're trying to go after a specifically ar
type of platform pistols.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
That's what was used in the King super shootings.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's kind of where that specific focus comes from. But
the language is so nuanced and contradictory around the pistols
that actually includes smaller Cali caliber handguns that are used
a lot by women in the elderly or people that
might have arthritis in their hands because they're lighter weight
since they're gas powered. So the ban is very extensive. Additionally,
(02:22):
it actually grants the Attorney General authority to further define
that nuanced language. So people need to understand this bill
is bad. It is, without a doubt, the worst gun
band we have ever seen anywhere in the United States period. Now,
why do we think it has a better chance of passing?
So when they introduce this bill on January eighth, the
(02:44):
first day of the session, Senator Tom Sullivan and Senator
Julie Gonzalez were the bill sponsors in the Senate, and
they actually had signed on eighteen co sponsors in the
Senate onto this bill before it was introduced, and all
they need is eighteen votes to pass it in the Senate,
so that was a huge flex. It started in the Senate,
(03:06):
it then has twenty five co sponsors on it on
the House side.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It does need.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Thirty three votes on the House side to pass. There's
a little more wiggle room over there, but typically the
Senate is burst up solved and not the House.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So seeing it start.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In the Senate is definitely People need to be on
hi alert and this is not a joke. People need
to know this is the real deal and the only
thing that stops this is going to be massive public opposition.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, so a couple things to follow up there and
make sure, and so I.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Don't forget the question.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
One of the things I'm going to want you to
answer is how and when can my listeners go make
their voices heard at committee to try to stop this thing,
even though I don't think, I don't think Democrats give
a rats behind as to what anybody in the public things.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But still so I'll want an answer to that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But the other thing I recall from your past that
when I used to go to the Capitol from time
to time, which is not very often because it's not
a place I like to go, I would see this
dude wandering around who was pointed out to me as
Bloomberg's anti gun lobbyist. And it was pointed out to
me at some other time by a state senator who
(04:19):
I won't name, that the anti gun bills that were
proposed by this senator or that senator in recent years
were actually written by the Bloomberg people, like the most
anti gun people in America, and they're handed to politicians,
and the politicians at that moment have no idea what's
(04:40):
in them, and even after they read them, they still
probably don't understand them.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Does that sound like what's going on now?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That's absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And even the bill sponsors aren't pretending to have written
this bill. They acknowledge that this was written by Bloomberg
every Town for Gun Safety and their lobbyist is crawling
the Capitol right now. I've been down capital a lot
so far the session fighting this bill, and so yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Their lobbyist is down there. They wrote it. They actually,
the lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
In Bloomberg and every Time for Gun Safety of their
attorneys actually sold this bill on the bill sponsors in
those co sponsors, those eighteen cost sponsors.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
As a bill that would further enforce and close a.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Loophole in the twenty thirteen magazine capacity limit laws that
we passed in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So this has been sold.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
To them, and actually they're trying to sell it to
the public as this is not a gun dand this
is about addressing a loophole in that magazine capacity limit law.
And that's really important because we even we had the
first committee this past Tuesday, and the number of times
the bill sponsors would say they did not support gun dans,
that's not what this is. It's one of the worst
(05:50):
gas lighting i've ever seen in politics here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Sponsors definitely believe it. Many of those cost sponsors believe
that that language.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Okay, So it's I mean, it's on us, on you,
on senators who understand this to make those Democrats understand
that the bill isn't what they think.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now, we only have a couple.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Minutes here, and so first let me mention the listeners.
If you go to my blog at Rosskominski dot com,
one of the things you're going to find there in
the section where I list to the show guests is
a video that Leslie did with her co founder of We.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The Second about some of the details of this bill. Actually,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Might have put two up there, because here's what I
want to ask you, Leslie. In a more recent video
that you did, the two of you talked about how
this bill, if it passes, will increase the level of
danger around firearms.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It says if it's an anti safety bill. Can you
elaborate on that a little bit?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yes, So that's a very very important piece of this.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So the bill sponsors feel that this doesn't actually ban
firearms because all people have to do is fix their
mags to their guns and as.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Long as it's as long as it's not detachable.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So they're actually suggesting epoxying magazines to guns or welding
magazine to guns that that would then make it and.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Make a compliance. But anybody who knows firearms.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Knows the importance of being able to clear a gun
that that's how you remove your AMMO. The other alternative
would be to shoot your gun.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It would be to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Try to figure out how to take a part a
loaded gun to get AMMO out of there. This is
a very dangerous bill, and the ignorance around what they're
trying to sell and the safety aspect of it is
honestly going to probably take more lives should it pass
that it would actually stave based on the firearms that
they're trying to ban.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Here, I don't believe it would save a life.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I believe that if somebody is bound and determined to
kill somebody with a gun, they'll just they'll get a
gun one way or another might be the.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Same kind of gun.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, so I've got one minute, so tell my listeners
now what they can do to try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So this bill did pass out of its first committee
on Tuesday against massive public opposition. That was their president
at the capital. On our website we the second dot Com.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
If people can go there.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We need people to contact the Democrat state senators and
contact the governor. And I will tell you that I
know it's hard to think that Democrats are going to
change their minds. We have been meeting with Democrats now
at the Capitol and educating them about this, and they
are starting to open their eyes and understand what is
actually happening. Some of these co sponsors actually voted no
(08:34):
on the bills the last two years, so they have
been sold a package of lives. And it's our job
to educate these people and open their eyes and make
sure that they understand what they have actually signed on to.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So when is the hearing second dot Com?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
When we the second dot Com? When and where is
the hearing that maybe some listeners could show up at,
and especially if you can show up early enough to
get your name down to have a chance to speak.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
When and where?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So it argue passed the first committee this past two day.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Tomorrow, what's going to second reading in the Senate? Okay,
so pass out of the Senate, which we do expect
it'll move to the House Chamber and as soon as
that next committee hearing is scheduled, be a public hearing,
and we would make sure that everybody knows if you
follow me the second social media.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Website, we'll have it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This is going to take massive, massive, public outrage to
stop this film.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, and the committee work on the Senate side is done, yes, okay, Yeah,
that's that's bad news.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's where it's most likely to be stopped.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But now we're going to have to try to stop
it on the Senate floor and that will not be easy.
But Leslie Hollywood is fighting her heart out and we're
going to help we the Second dot com to keep
up with this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Thank you, Leslie, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Thank you Ros
I want to do something different now.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Very pleased to welcome back to the show, Leslie Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
She's been on with me multiple times over the years.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
On various political issues and gun rights issues. She is
a co founder of a group called We the Second,
which is a nonpartisan group that advocates for Second Amendment rights,
for gun rights for Colorado's and Leslie joins us to
talk about Senate Bill three, or more precisely, Senate Bill
(00:29):
twenty five DASH zero zero three Colorado assault weapons semi
auto gun ban, which is not only a worse bill
than the ones we've seen in recent years, it also
has a higher chance of passing than the ones in
recent years that were bad but not as bad as this,
at least I think Leslie will tell me if I
have that wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Hi, Leslie, good morning, and thanks for having me on
ros Yeah, glad to do it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
What do we need to know about the details of
the bill, and then what do we need to know
about the process around the bill where maybe some listeners
can try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Sure so, I think people need to understand that, like
you said, this is a worse bill than we face
the last two years. What makes this bill different is
that they are doing a blanket ban on semi automatic
rifles and shotguns that take a detachable magazine, and then
guests operated pistols that take a detachable magazine.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
In the recent years.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And actually in assault of bands that we've seen in
other states like California, Illinois, places like that, they require
the detachable magazine part, but then they also require coupling
that with some other features the gun might have, like.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
A pistol grip or a barrel shroud.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
And so this doesn't require those features. This is a
blanket van rifles and shotguns. If they can take a
detachable magazine, they are banned. The pistols is a little
more nuanced. They're trying to go after a specifically ar
type of platform pistols.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
That's what was used in the King super shootings.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That's kind of where that specific focus comes from. But
the language is so nuanced and contradictory around the pistols
that actually includes smaller Cali caliber handguns that are used
a lot by women in the elderly or people that
might have arthritis in their hands because they're lighter weight
since they're gas powered. So the ban is very extensive. Additionally,
(02:22):
it actually grants the Attorney General authority to further define
that nuanced language. So people need to understand this bill
is bad. It is, without a doubt, the worst gun
band we have ever seen anywhere in the United States period. Now,
why do we think it has a better chance of passing?
So when they introduce this bill on January eighth, the
(02:44):
first day of the session, Senator Tom Sullivan and Senator
Julie Gonzalez were the bill sponsors in the Senate, and
they actually had signed on eighteen co sponsors in the
Senate onto this bill before it was introduced, and all
they need is eighteen votes to pass it in the Senate,
so that was a huge flex. It started in the Senate,
(03:06):
it then has twenty five co sponsors on it on
the House side.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It does need.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Thirty three votes on the House side to pass. There's
a little more wiggle room over there, but typically the
Senate is burst up solved and not the House.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So seeing it start.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In the Senate is definitely People need to be on
hi alert and this is not a joke. People need
to know this is the real deal and the only
thing that stops this is going to be massive public opposition.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Okay, so a couple things to follow up there and
make sure, and so I.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Don't forget the question.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
One of the things I'm going to want you to
answer is how and when can my listeners go make
their voices heard at committee to try to stop this thing,
even though I don't think, I don't think Democrats give
a rats behind as to what anybody in the public things.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But still so I'll want an answer to that.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But the other thing I recall from your past that
when I used to go to the Capitol from time
to time, which is not very often because it's not
a place I like to go, I would see this
dude wandering around who was pointed out to me as
Bloomberg's anti gun lobbyist. And it was pointed out to
me at some other time by a state senator who
(04:19):
I won't name, that the anti gun bills that were
proposed by this senator or that senator in recent years
were actually written by the Bloomberg people, like the most
anti gun people in America, and they're handed to politicians,
and the politicians at that moment have no idea what's
(04:40):
in them, and even after they read them, they still
probably don't understand them.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Does that sound like what's going on now?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
That's absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And even the bill sponsors aren't pretending to have written
this bill. They acknowledge that this was written by Bloomberg
every Town for Gun Safety and their lobbyist is crawling
the Capitol right now. I've been down capital a lot
so far the session fighting this bill, and so yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Their lobbyist is down there. They wrote it. They actually,
the lobbyists.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
In Bloomberg and every Time for Gun Safety of their
attorneys actually sold this bill on the bill sponsors in
those co sponsors, those eighteen cost sponsors.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
As a bill that would further enforce and close a.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Loophole in the twenty thirteen magazine capacity limit laws that
we passed in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So this has been sold.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
To them, and actually they're trying to sell it to
the public as this is not a gun dand this
is about addressing a loophole in that magazine capacity limit law.
And that's really important because we even we had the
first committee this past Tuesday, and the number of times
the bill sponsors would say they did not support gun dans,
that's not what this is. It's one of the worst
(05:50):
gas lighting i've ever seen in politics here in Colorado.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I believe it.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Sponsors definitely believe it. Many of those cost sponsors believe
that that language.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Okay, So it's I mean, it's on us, on you,
on senators who understand this to make those Democrats understand
that the bill isn't what they think.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Now, we only have a couple.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Minutes here, and so first let me mention the listeners.
If you go to my blog at Rosskominski dot com,
one of the things you're going to find there in
the section where I list to the show guests is
a video that Leslie did with her co founder of We.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
The Second about some of the details of this bill. Actually,
I think I.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Might have put two up there, because here's what I
want to ask you, Leslie. In a more recent video
that you did, the two of you talked about how
this bill, if it passes, will increase the level of
danger around firearms.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It says if it's an anti safety bill. Can you
elaborate on that a little bit?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yes, So that's a very very important piece of this.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
So the bill sponsors feel that this doesn't actually ban
firearms because all people have to do is fix their
mags to their guns and as.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Long as it's as long as it's not detachable.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So they're actually suggesting epoxying magazines to guns or welding
magazine to guns that that would then make it and.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Make a compliance. But anybody who knows firearms.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Knows the importance of being able to clear a gun
that that's how you remove your AMMO. The other alternative
would be to shoot your gun.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It would be to.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Try to figure out how to take a part a
loaded gun to get AMMO out of there. This is
a very dangerous bill, and the ignorance around what they're
trying to sell and the safety aspect of it is
honestly going to probably take more lives should it pass
that it would actually stave based on the firearms that
they're trying to ban.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Here, I don't believe it would save a life.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I believe that if somebody is bound and determined to
kill somebody with a gun, they'll just they'll get a
gun one way or another might be the.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Same kind of gun.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, so I've got one minute, so tell my listeners
now what they can do to try to make a difference.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So this bill did pass out of its first committee
on Tuesday against massive public opposition. That was their president
at the capital. On our website we the second dot Com.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
If people can go there.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
We need people to contact the Democrat state senators and
contact the governor. And I will tell you that I
know it's hard to think that Democrats are going to
change their minds. We have been meeting with Democrats now
at the Capitol and educating them about this, and they
are starting to open their eyes and understand what is
actually happening. Some of these co sponsors actually voted no
(08:34):
on the bills the last two years, so they have
been sold a package of lives. And it's our job
to educate these people and open their eyes and make
sure that they understand what they have actually signed on to.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So when is the hearing second dot Com?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
When we the second dot Com? When and where is
the hearing that maybe some listeners could show up at,
and especially if you can show up early enough to
get your name down to have a chance to speak.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
When and where?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
So it argue passed the first committee this past two day.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Tomorrow, what's going to second reading in the Senate? Okay,
so pass out of the Senate, which we do expect
it'll move to the House Chamber and as soon as
that next committee hearing is scheduled, be a public hearing,
and we would make sure that everybody knows if you
follow me the second social media.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Website, we'll have it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
This is going to take massive, massive, public outrage to
stop this film.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, and the committee work on the Senate side is done, yes, okay, Yeah,
that's that's bad news.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's where it's most likely to be stopped.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But now we're going to have to try to stop
it on the Senate floor and that will not be easy.
But Leslie Hollywood is fighting her heart out and we're
going to help we the Second dot com to keep
up with this.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Thank you, Leslie, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Thank you Ros
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