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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, we are the home of the Colorado Rockies,
and of course the voice most associated with the Colorado
Rockies my good friend Jack Corrigan, who, along with his
partner in crime, Jerry Shemil, call every Rockies game. Jack
joins us right now to talk about the news from
today that general manager Bill Schmidt has resigned or been
(00:20):
fired or something.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Jack, thanks for being here on short notice.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I appreciate it, no problem, Ross, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So the Rockies got swept in twenty one season series.
They set a new league high record for the highest
era in a season, and the most amazing statistic to
me was they got outscored by something like four hundred
and thirty five runs over the course of the season
or some number like that, and the previous record was
(00:48):
nearly ninety runs less and that was almost one hundred
years ago. So something had to change.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, I think there was no question. I mean, to
focus just on this year is a little bit of
kind of overkill, if you will. I mean, this has
been building over the last three four years, if you will,
almost since it's not that there's a direct connection, but
(01:19):
in my opinion, baseball changed after the pandemic, not only
with some of the rules changes, but some of the
philosophical approaches, and I think the Rockies have been late
to the table, if you will, in that regard, and
now it's an opportunity to try and catch up.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
How does a philosophical approach by team A cause Team
B to lose more games?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's in the approach of all the phases of the game,
if you will, pitching, hitting, movie runners, space, stealing, playing defense.
If you look at a number of the teams that
are in the postseason now, for the big market sluggers
(02:12):
like the Yankees and the Dodgers, that's one thing. But
Cleveland and Detroit and Milwaukee and even to a degree
San Diego and Chicago changed as the game changed in
terms of how it was officiated, if you will, And
(02:32):
so you needed to have more walks out of your
hitters and fewer strikeouts, and you needed the reverse for
your pitchers. To really analyze deeply with the Rockies this
year in particular, and some of that because of all
the young players they had. They were terrible at drawing
(02:55):
walks and struck out too much, and they walked too
many people. It didn't strike out enough people. Okay, So
when you're going against Yeah, when you're going against the grain,
it's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Go well, right, Okay, I'm just going to stick with
this for one second, then we'll get back to.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The big picture.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We got about five minutes left, so and again, you know,
I don't know very much about baseball. So when when
you talk about let's stick with the hitting side, we'll
just put aside the pitching side for now. Talk about
the hitting side. When you say that they didn't get
enough walks and they struck out too much, how much of.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That is because we don't have good enough players?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And how much of that is because the coach that
you know down the first base line or down the
first or third base line, who's giving signals to the
hitter telling them what to do, are telling them to
swing when based on how you're describing the changes in
the game, they should have been telling them not to swing.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, I don't think there's there within the game very often,
except in certain very strategic points that a hitter is
directly told not to swing or two swing that's based
on the preparation beforehand as to what that picture's throwing
(04:12):
to them, what their strengths and weaknesses are, I think
it's more to the point of where the game changed
on the Rockies is that historically, from a philosophical perspective,
we tried to or they tried to be more specific,
they tried to swap because of playing the lovation and
(04:40):
that worked for a time, but it never translated out
on the road when they were playing at sea level.
And really the approach that teams like Milwaukee and San
Diego and Cleveland and Detroit to an extent, are doing
is if we put the ball in play. Coursefield has
(05:04):
the most square footage in their outfield of any ballpark
in baseball. They don't get beat by teams matching six
home runs in a game. The Rockies get beat too
often when guys are hitting the ball out past the
infield and with the outfield playing beat because it is
(05:27):
so big, it's hit after hit. That good example. Yeah,
a good example was there was a game, even though
it was at Phoenix, the Diamondbacks scored nine runs in
an inning with two outs and had one extra base hit.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh my gosh, okay, so let me let me jump in.
So you just have a couple minutes left now, so
the the.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
General manager, Bill Schmidt is gone and I wonder just
in the bigger pitch, right we've got whether or not
we have good enough players. The reason we have the
players that we have is because of management and ownership,
and a lot of people feel like management and ownership
of the Rockies have just not done what they need
(06:16):
to do.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And perhaps part of that is because the fans keep
going to the games. And I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Whether you think there's more that needs to be done
here or whether there's more that will be done here
in terms of change of management, and is there any
hint of change in ownership.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, ownership is not gonna stand.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
As far as.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To hope for as Rockies, in my case covers the
ball club is your hope. Again, as I said at
the outset, there's a philosophical change in how you build
your ball club, how you draft the people. I think
the Rockies You're not going to sign free agent pitchers
(07:05):
until they're better. You're not going to sign a big
time free agent slugger. So spend your money on ten
twenty more scouts. Spend your money on ten twenty more
developed coaches at the minor league level, teaching a philosophy
(07:25):
that will work at Coorsefield. Spend the money on your
analytics department to be on top of all the latest things,
whether it's physical you know, kinesiology, or it's mental in
the approach to the game. But that's where they can
(07:46):
spend the money. That's where they get better. That's a
philosophy change, that's not a dollars and cents change in
big numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, last question for you, the the interim manager, that's
that Warren Warren is that Warren Shaeffer?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
If you were a betting man, would you bet that
he's the manager next year?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's really hard to say. I think based on the
circumstances and how Warren approaches the job, I think he
deserves consideration. But and this is all caps butt in
the biggest fonts you can find. Whoever you bring in,
if you are going to make that philosophical change as
(08:37):
your head of baseball operations, they should have the people
they want in the most important places. And if that
new guy comes in and says, hey, I like what
Warren did based on his circumstances, I'm gonna give him
another shot. I think that'd be fine, but it very
well could be and probably more likely going to be
(09:00):
that the guy's got somebody in mind who he wants
in that role.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That makes sense. You know what I lied when I
said that was the last question. I've actually have two more,
but I want to ask him really really fast. One,
do you think that, with a change in philosophy as
you have been describing, if they did the things that
you think they should do, is the talent of our
players enough to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
As it is constituted now based on the lack of experience?
I'd say no, But is it a found Do they
have foundation pieces? Yes, it's the question of how many
more can they get?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, last question for you?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How excited were you to see that historic collapse of
the Detroit Tigers allowing the Cleveland former Indians now Guardians
to win that division again?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well, it just shows you are good friend. And the
former Rockies manager Bud Black always used to say when
something would make you scratch your head, he'd just grin
and say, Hey, that's baseball, and really that's it. It's
so crazy how the game can change. The hottest team
in September were the Yankees, playing at home against their
(10:20):
arch rivals. They lost last night. That's baseball.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Jack Corrigan, Voice of the Rockies. Thanks so much for
making time for us. Appreciate it all right, Roll, it's anytime,
my friend.
You know, we are the home of the Colorado Rockies,
and of course the voice most associated with the Colorado
Rockies my good friend Jack Corrigan, who, along with his
partner in crime, Jerry Shemil, call every Rockies game. Jack
joins us right now to talk about the news from
today that general manager Bill Schmidt has resigned or been
(00:20):
fired or something.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Jack, thanks for being here on short notice.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I appreciate it, no problem, Ross, Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So the Rockies got swept in twenty one season series.
They set a new league high record for the highest
era in a season, and the most amazing statistic to
me was they got outscored by something like four hundred
and thirty five runs over the course of the season
or some number like that, and the previous record was
(00:48):
nearly ninety runs less and that was almost one hundred
years ago. So something had to change.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, I think there was no question. I mean, to
focus just on this year is a little bit of
kind of overkill, if you will. I mean, this has
been building over the last three four years, if you will,
almost since it's not that there's a direct connection, but
(01:19):
in my opinion, baseball changed after the pandemic, not only
with some of the rules changes, but some of the
philosophical approaches, and I think the Rockies have been late
to the table, if you will, in that regard, and
now it's an opportunity to try and catch up.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
How does a philosophical approach by team A cause Team
B to lose more games?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's in the approach of all the phases of the game,
if you will, pitching, hitting, movie runners, space, stealing, playing defense.
If you look at a number of the teams that
are in the postseason now, for the big market sluggers
(02:12):
like the Yankees and the Dodgers, that's one thing. But
Cleveland and Detroit and Milwaukee and even to a degree
San Diego and Chicago changed as the game changed in
terms of how it was officiated, if you will, And
(02:32):
so you needed to have more walks out of your
hitters and fewer strikeouts, and you needed the reverse for
your pitchers. To really analyze deeply with the Rockies this
year in particular, and some of that because of all
the young players they had. They were terrible at drawing
(02:55):
walks and struck out too much, and they walked too
many people. It didn't strike out enough people. Okay, So
when you're going against Yeah, when you're going against the grain,
it's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Go well, right, Okay, I'm just going to stick with
this for one second, then we'll get back to.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
The big picture.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We got about five minutes left, so and again, you know,
I don't know very much about baseball. So when when
you talk about let's stick with the hitting side, we'll
just put aside the pitching side for now. Talk about
the hitting side. When you say that they didn't get
enough walks and they struck out too much, how much of.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That is because we don't have good enough players?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And how much of that is because the coach that
you know down the first base line or down the
first or third base line, who's giving signals to the
hitter telling them what to do, are telling them to
swing when based on how you're describing the changes in
the game, they should have been telling them not to swing.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, I don't think there's there within the game very often,
except in certain very strategic points that a hitter is
directly told not to swing or two swing that's based
on the preparation beforehand as to what that picture's throwing
(04:12):
to them, what their strengths and weaknesses are, I think
it's more to the point of where the game changed
on the Rockies is that historically, from a philosophical perspective,
we tried to or they tried to be more specific,
they tried to swap because of playing the lovation and
(04:40):
that worked for a time, but it never translated out
on the road when they were playing at sea level.
And really the approach that teams like Milwaukee and San
Diego and Cleveland and Detroit to an extent, are doing
is if we put the ball in play. Coursefield has
(05:04):
the most square footage in their outfield of any ballpark
in baseball. They don't get beat by teams matching six
home runs in a game. The Rockies get beat too
often when guys are hitting the ball out past the
infield and with the outfield playing beat because it is
(05:27):
so big, it's hit after hit. That good example. Yeah,
a good example was there was a game, even though
it was at Phoenix, the Diamondbacks scored nine runs in
an inning with two outs and had one extra base hit.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Oh my gosh, okay, so let me let me jump in.
So you just have a couple minutes left now, so
the the.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
General manager, Bill Schmidt is gone and I wonder just
in the bigger pitch, right we've got whether or not
we have good enough players. The reason we have the
players that we have is because of management and ownership,
and a lot of people feel like management and ownership
of the Rockies have just not done what they need
(06:16):
to do.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And perhaps part of that is because the fans keep
going to the games. And I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Whether you think there's more that needs to be done
here or whether there's more that will be done here
in terms of change of management, and is there any
hint of change in ownership.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, ownership is not gonna stand.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
As far as.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To hope for as Rockies, in my case covers the
ball club is your hope. Again, as I said at
the outset, there's a philosophical change in how you build
your ball club, how you draft the people. I think
the Rockies You're not going to sign free agent pitchers
(07:05):
until they're better. You're not going to sign a big
time free agent slugger. So spend your money on ten
twenty more scouts. Spend your money on ten twenty more
developed coaches at the minor league level, teaching a philosophy
(07:25):
that will work at Coorsefield. Spend the money on your
analytics department to be on top of all the latest things,
whether it's physical you know, kinesiology, or it's mental in
the approach to the game. But that's where they can
(07:46):
spend the money. That's where they get better. That's a
philosophy change, that's not a dollars and cents change in
big numbers.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Okay, last question for you, the the interim manager, that's
that Warren Warren is that Warren Shaeffer?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
If you were a betting man, would you bet that
he's the manager next year?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
That's really hard to say. I think based on the
circumstances and how Warren approaches the job, I think he
deserves consideration. But and this is all caps butt in
the biggest fonts you can find. Whoever you bring in,
if you are going to make that philosophical change as
(08:37):
your head of baseball operations, they should have the people
they want in the most important places. And if that
new guy comes in and says, hey, I like what
Warren did based on his circumstances, I'm gonna give him
another shot. I think that'd be fine, but it very
well could be and probably more likely going to be
(09:00):
that the guy's got somebody in mind who he wants
in that role.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
That makes sense. You know what I lied when I
said that was the last question. I've actually have two more,
but I want to ask him really really fast. One,
do you think that, with a change in philosophy as
you have been describing, if they did the things that
you think they should do, is the talent of our
players enough to make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
As it is constituted now based on the lack of experience?
I'd say no, But is it a found Do they
have foundation pieces? Yes, it's the question of how many
more can they get?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, last question for you?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
How excited were you to see that historic collapse of
the Detroit Tigers allowing the Cleveland former Indians now Guardians
to win that division again?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well, it just shows you are good friend. And the
former Rockies manager Bud Black always used to say when
something would make you scratch your head, he'd just grin
and say, Hey, that's baseball, and really that's it. It's
so crazy how the game can change. The hottest team
in September were the Yankees, playing at home against their
(10:20):
arch rivals. They lost last night. That's baseball.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Jack Corrigan, Voice of the Rockies. Thanks so much for
making time for us. Appreciate it all right, Roll, it's anytime,
my friend.
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