10-06-25 - *FULL SHOW* Bari Weiss & CBS; Israel & Hamas; Broncos Win; Local Elections

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I hope you had a wonderful weekend. I hope your
weekend was as good as the Broncos weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I think the Broncos.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Are flying to London like already or they already left.
They already left to get on the They're they're they're
already in London. Producer Shannon says, they're already in London
and to get on the time zone and be prepared for,
you know, for next Sunday's next Sunday's game against whoever
they're playing, Jacksonville, is it? I think I wanted to
a New York Jets, That's right. I wanted to go

(00:28):
to that game. I was really thinking about it. KOA
wouldn't pay for it, but I was gonna maybe fly
myself out. And but I am, I'm gonna be doing
other stuff. I'm actually gonna be traveling with a with
with my younger kid to go look at some colleges.
So I'm not gonna go to the game. But anyway,
what a huge one for the Broncos. We'll talk about

(00:49):
that more a little bit later. So I mentioned from
time to time on this show the Free Press, right
Barry Weiss's organization, The Free Press I've been a I've
been a subscriber, I mean since before it was even
called The Free Press, and I think that as a
as a media outlet, I think they have been fairly

(01:09):
transformational actually in online news and opinion reporting. It's it's
probably slightly more opinion than news.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
In a way.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
It would be kind of like this show, right in
the sense that I will bring you a news story,
but I spend most of the time analyzing it and
giving you my opinion and sharing your opinions as they.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Come in on the text line about it.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
And the news is the news itself, is this little,
this central thing that we build a bigger conversation around.
And that's kind of what they do at the Free Press.
And they have acquired some unbelievable talents in their writing,
and they have a million and a half subscribers. Anyway,
this has been rumored for a while now, but it

(01:51):
was made official today that Paramount is buying The Free
Press for one hundred and fifty million dollars. I don't
know how much of it Barry Weiss herself owns versus
how much she has, let's say, give it new employees,
or if she took on some early investors, and early
investors owned some of it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't know who owns what.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's private, so I don't know if we will ever
know who owns what. It's just a little a funny aside.
So Barry Weiss is married to another woman named Nellie Bowles,
who writes something called TGIF on Fridays for the Free Press,
and they're both formerly of The New York Times. And

(02:36):
Nellie Bowles hilarious, an unbelievably funny writer. She's been on
my show one time before. I've never had Barry Weiss
on the show. She's been on the show one time before. Again,
very very funny. She wrote a book, and we were
talking about her book, and in one of her recent articles,
she wrote she puts a lot of personal stuff in there.
And she made a comment about how at their house,

(03:00):
their laundry system is one of these stacked things with
the washer on top of the dryer, which normally is
a kind of thing that you would probably see in
a place where you don't have very much room and
you need to stack them that way, and you know whatever,
And she made a comment about how much she didn't
like it. So I sent her a note this morning,
saying hopefully, now with this deal, you will end up

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being able to have a better laundry situation. And she
wrote back yes, laundry palace. And so I went online
to AI and I had AI create a picture of
a dark haired woman looking at a ballroom full of
washers and dryers, and I sent that to her. So anyway,

(03:43):
there you go. So now here's the other part of
the story.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Though. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Okay, it's interesting enough that Barry Weiss created this website
after leaving The New York Times and is selling now
for one hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I mean, that's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's also interesting what the Free Press is, right, if
you've never read it, it's not a conservative site, but
it's also not a liberal site. They have a wider
range of opinion than almost anybody else.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
They are very very.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Skeptical of wokeness, however, and Barry herself and even more
Nelly Bowles definitely came from I would say, I would
call Barry formerly center to center left and Nelly Bolls
center left to left, and they've both been pretty red
pilled by a whole bunch of things by Wokeness, by

(04:33):
COVID by a bunch of stuff, and they're very skeptical.
I wouldn't call them maga, but they have some similar sensibilities.
But what's very important for the media thing is that
they are clearly not trying to be Fox News or MSNBC.
They're showing a wide range of opinion on a wide

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range of subjects economics, culture, are Israel not such a
wide range of opinion on Israel, which is fine with
me because the people who think that the you know
you should.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Be siding with the Palestinians are morons.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
But anyway, the bigger part of the news is that
Barry Weiss is being made editor in chief of CBS News.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
CBS News, of course, is the home of sixty Minutes
and CBS Sunday Morning, their other Sunday morning show, which
is what is theirs Face the Nation? I think is
not as big as the other two old line legacy
broadcast network Sunday shows, but maybe it will be.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And the head of Paramount is.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
A guy named David Ellison, and he says the combination
of the free press.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
And CBS News will create.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
A news organization that ultimately becomes one of the most
trusted destinations for news in this country. We want CBS
to speak to that seventy percent of the audience that
would really define themselves as center left to center right.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's that center left to center right is seventy percent anymore,
but it's certainly more than fifty percent. And I think
it's just a fantastic thing that they're doing. And I hope,
I hope that CBS succeeds. I hope that Barry Weiss
can turn CBS into well, as Ellison says, one of

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the most trusted destinations for news in this country right now.
My most trusted destination for television news is News Nation, right.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
And then Fox is behind that in.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Second place, and everything else is pretty far behind that.
But for me, News Nation is number one right now.
Would it be interesting if one of the old line
broadcast networks can join that conversation as an actual trust
did outlet. And it was interesting that this popped up
this morning because this is a topic I'm going to
come back to a.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Little bit later in the day, a little bit later
in the show.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
But there's a new poll out that Gallup does every
single year. They do this survey about how much trust
people have in media and the trust in media in
the aggregate, and they didn't separate. They aggregated TV, radio
and newspapers. I wish they had broken them out, but
they didn't. They just asked people, you know, thinking of

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media as TV, radio and newspapers, how much do you
trust them? And the number is the lowest ever. It's
like twenty eight percent. It's the lowest ever. And I
think that it's really important to notice that the head
of Paramount, which owns CBS, when he talks about the
purpose of buying the free press and hiring Barry Weiss,

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he made it about trust. I think that's the right move.
I think that's the right approach. It's the approach I
take on show. That's why I hope you trust me
five six six nine zero. During the show, I read
pretty much every listener text that comes in. Unless we
do something where I get two hundred texts really fast,
I might not read all of those, but I try

(08:13):
to read every text, and I respond to many of
them and sometimes respond to them on the air as well.
I'm not going to do that right now because I
just have so many things I want to talk about today.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I want to take a couple of minutes here.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
I think, yes, I know that last week I mentioned
a couple of different times I talked about Saudi Arabia
and how Saudi Arabia is involved. Their Sovereign Wealth Fund
is a big player in the group that's buying EA
Sports for fifty five billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So the biggest ever.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
And I said this last week, but I'll say it
again because it's interesting. It's the biggest ever transaction as
far as taking a public company private, right, and that's
in nominal or meaning not adjusting for inflation. But often
it's you don't see too many public companies go private,

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especially very very big public companies, because it means you
have to have private groups with enough money to buy
this whole thing. Normally, the reason a company goes public
is to access the amount of money that is available
by having stock that's publicly traded, so you can sell
stock to individual investors or pension funds or whoever.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Going private, usually it's just it's a group.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
You know, it could be one or two big investors,
or a country and this and that, and you have
to have an immense amount of money concentrated into a
fairly small number of at least decision makers hands in
order to take a big company private. And that's what's
happening with THEA Sports. Saudi is a big part of it. Saudi,
I mentioned last week, also spending a lot of money

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investing in US movie production, that whole golf thing where
they're trying to compete with PGA. And then and I
think this may actually still be going on for another
day or two.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Don't quote me on that.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
But they did this big comedy festival, the ri Odd
Comedy Festival, which itself sounds like a joke, but they
have hired some of the biggest, most famous. Yes, actually
it does run for another few days. They hired some
of the biggest names in comedy. They got Dave Chappelle,

(10:27):
they got Bill Burr, They've got just all kinds of
big names.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart went.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
And it's unknown exactly how much people are being.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Paid to go out there.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
There's a comedian named Tim Dillon, and I don't know
this comedian, but a comedian named Tim Dillon said he
was offered three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars and
he said that others had gotten up to one point
six million dollars.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I believe it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's Saudi Arabia, and they're trying to, you know, boost
their their reputation and turn themselves into a tourist destination
and a place that people think of going and spending
their money and finding a way to develop some industry
other than oil. So Chappelle was there, by the way, Shannon,
did you know that Dave Chappelle is Muslim? I learned

(11:24):
that this weekend. I had no idea, But Dave Chappelle
is Muslim. Okay, So Dave Chappelle said, and this was Saturday.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Right now, in America, they.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Say, if you talk about Charlie Kirk, you'll get canceled.
I don't know if that's true, but I'm gonna find
out now. I don't know if he actually said anything
more about Charlie Kirk than that, but he then said,
and the audience is something like six thousand people, Okay,
he said, it's easier to talk here than it is

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in America.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I think it's very interesting that he said that for
two reasons. First, it's not true. Second, to the extent
that people think there's even the smallest chance that it
could be true. For example, with Donald Trump so aggressively
trying to get late night TV show hosts who he
thinks aren't nice enough to him, he's trying to get
them fired, and it has people thinking free speech is

(12:20):
very much under threat in the United States, and it
probably is a little bit, but not like Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Right, Saudi Arabia on its.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Best day is worse than the United States on its
worst day when it comes to free speech. And yet,
and yet Dave Chappelle is out there saying this stuff.
And part of the frustration for me is that some Americans,
especially the same Americans who watch Jimmy Kimmel, are gonna
think maybe he's onto something, even though he's not. It's
just more bashing of America. Now, Ben Shapiro did a

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whole well, you know, he does a big YouTube thing
and usually about an hour long, and he did a
section of one a couple of days ago about this.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Dave Chappelle a again, a fau, a faux brave person.
He goes to Saudi Arabia and he says, right now,
in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk,
you'll get canceled. I don't know if that's true, but
I'm gonna find out. Wow, look at the bravery of
that man. He's going over to Saudi Arabia to rip
on Charlie Kirk, to make jokes about Charlie Cook.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Look at that bravery. Look at that bravery.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Perfectly happy to take the money from the Islamic dictatorship,
perfectly happy to take that cash and rip on Charlie
Kirk in the process. Like what a brave man, What
a truly brave man. According to The New York Times,
Chappelle was performing in riod at the same time as
a divisive free speech debate was royal in the United States.

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Chappelle has talked frequently about being canceled after an upper
caused by his jokes mocking trans people, but in Riyad
he took aim at the recent suspension of mister Kimmel.
Like other comedians at the events who said they felt
muzzled by American political correctness, mister Chappelle reveled in making
uncouth jokes in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
YETI Overlain, All right, I'll leave it there. You get
the idea.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Other thing that was interesting is that this comedian who
I was mentioning before, who said he was offered three
hundred and seventy five thousand dollars and turned it down
and said he wasn't going to go right. He also
there's another another comedian named Atsuko O Katsuka, so that's

(14:26):
a Japanese sounding name. But apparently in a mayor American
comedian who I also don't know, but boycotted the festival,
and she posted some screenshots of what she said were
part of the contract, And I'm quoting from the New
York Times. According to the posts, organizers prohibited quote any
material considered to degrade to fame or bring into public disrepute, contempt, scandal, embarrassment,

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or ridicule the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Any jokes about the Saudi royal.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Family or any religions were also forbidden. Yeah, I'm with
Ben Shapiro these I mean, they're welcome to go take
the money and do a comedy show, just don't pretend
you're brave. What if you are a stockholder in a
public company and you don't want to sell your stock
back to whoever's taking it private, or even just a takeover,

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whether or not we're going private. Right, Let's say you
own shares in Company A, and either some group is going.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
To come by it and.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Take Company A private, or public company B is going
to come buy public Company A, and then it'll be
whatever the merged company is or you know, and sometimes
sometimes they're kind of sort of equal, and you may
end up with both companies in.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
A company name. Right.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
For example, ex On Mobile. Right, there was x On,
there was Mobile, they merged. Now now it's Exon Mobile.
They're not They're not usually like that.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
More often what you have is Google or Meta.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know, that's worth a trillion dollars or some hundreds
of billions of dollars buying some company for some hundreds
of millions of dollars or a couple billion dollars. And
then the company that's being bought is just kind of
subsumed into the overall thing, and the overall thing is
still just called Google or whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
So to answer your question, though, what happens if you
own shares of stock in the company that is being
bought and you don't want to sell the stock back,
You want to keep your stock, And the answer is,
there will be a vote of shareholders as to whether
to permit the transaction, and if the shareholders vote in majority,

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unless there's some requirement more than a simple majority in
the organizing documents, which might exist, right, maybe there's something
in the original legal documents that say to be taken over.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
We need sixty percent, but put that aside for a second.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Whatever the threshold is, and it's usually just a simple majority.
Once the shareholders vote on it, it's done, and it
doesn't matter what you want, and your shares will be
held well wherever they are held at your brokerage firm,
and one day, whatever the closing date is of that transaction,
your shares will be gone and you will have cash
in your account. Or if it's a stock takeover, which

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this one for EA Sports is not. But if it's
a stock takeover, then your shares in company A will
be gone, and then however many shares you get in
company B will be there instead, or some combination of
shares in company B in cash.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
That also happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Right, Well, you know we're going to buy A for
thirty dollars a share. We're going to give you twenty
dollars per share worth of company B stock in.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Ten dollars a share in cash.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So the bottom line is, once there's a vote, it
doesn't matter what you want.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
One other very quick comment.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I said earlier that my most trusted source for news
on television is News Nation, and then I put Fox second.
I want to clarify something because a couple of listeners
have asked me about this. I am not talking about
their opinion shows, right. I do not go to Laura
Ingram or Sean Hannity for news that I can trust

(18:04):
for their mid day stuff, for Brett Baer, their morning
show is quite good too.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
America's Newsroom.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, there's a hint of a conservative bias there, but
it's not like opinion shows. These are news shows. Also
Fox News Sunday with Shannon Breem that seems to me
very fair in balance. They always have Democrat guests. And
so when I say that I trust Fox pretty well
for news, what I mean very specifically is during shows

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that are intended to be news shows.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I do not trust their opinion.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Shows for news, just like I don't trust MSNBC, which
is almost all opinion shows.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
They don't really even have news anymore as far as
I can tell.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But I just wanted to clarify that I am not I.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Was not intending to say that I trust outrighte partisan
opinion hosts for news and as far as whether you
like their opinion or agree with their opinion or not,
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Go enjoy whatever you enjoys.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's up to you. That's completely up to you. That's
what we're doing here as this kind of free speech thing.
At least I think that's what we're doing. So there
should be meetings going on right now in Egypt among
various negotiators trying to put an end to this war
in Gaza. On the US side, it's Steve Whitcoff, who

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is Donald Trump's kind of negotiator for all kinds of
intents international situations. And Jared Kushner, who is, as you
will recall from from Donald Trump's first term, he is
Donald Trump's son in law married to Ivanka Trump.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He is an Orthodox Jew.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I assume Steve Whitcoff is Jewish just because of the name.
I don't know him, but I assume he's Jewish too,
could be wrong. And Jared Kushner was a major force
behind getting the Abraham Accords, whatever was done of them
done in Trump's first term. They were remarkably successful and
probably would have been a lot more successful had Trump

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had probably just one more year. I bet you they
could have signed Saudi Arabia up to them. And of
course that is still the big goal. In any case,
Trump and his team put together this twenty or twenty
one point plan to end the war, and it has
all kinds of things that I'm not going to go
through them all.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Israel likes the plan pretty well.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
It seems clear based on news reporting that Israel got
the plan edited a little bit near the end to
make it more to Israel's liking, which, by the way,
is fine with me. The other side started the war
and murdered twelve hundred people and has been attempting to
murder civilians and killing every Israeli and every Jew that
they could find for years and years and years, and
I wish.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Them nothing but harm. I wish the war to end.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
But for those for Hamas, I want them all dead.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And for the people who would still.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Vote for Hamas today, Palestinians who would still vote for
Hamas if there is an election. You know, if a
bomb lands on your head, I won't feel too bad
about that. Either because you are like somebody who learned
about the concentration camps and said, you know what, I'd
vote for Hitler again, and I would wish a bomb
to drop on that person's head to sorry not sorry.

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So Trump put together this plan, Hamas said on Friday. Yes,
but now, of course we don't know what's after the butt,
and what's after the butt, whatever that is gonna be
is the most important stuff, because that's gonna be the.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Stuff that's gonna have the deal go through or not.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Now, the concept is that Hamas would give up all
the hostages, living or dead, right up front, and Israel
would release a whole bunch of Palestinian prisoners, including people
in prison with life sentences for murder, as well as
some I forget the number, over a thousand people who

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were arrested after October seventh for lesser crimes but still.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And are in prison in Israel.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And so that's part of what would happen now, I
think part of the So also, Hamas is supposed to
disarm Gaza is supposed to be put under the administration
of some entity that we don't entirely understand yet, but
there would be active participation by some other Muslim Arab

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countries and then run by some kind of board of directors,
a peace board that sounds like the heads of it
would be former British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know, like I've said many times, Trump wants the
Nobel Peace Prize and he's already done an immense amount
toward being worthy of it. But if he can get
this done, and can you imagine if he could get
this done and this somehow get the Rush of Ukraine
thing ended, I can't imagine who would be more just.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Of it than Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And it doesn't have to do with anything else you
think about about Donald Trump on any other issue. It's
just this. So this is we don't know. Here's the thing.
We don't actually know how close we are to peace.
What we know is we have a plan and Israel
has agreed to it, and we know Hamas has said yes.
But but it seemed like in the past they have

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said yes but as well. So we just don't know.
But here's what's different. Right now, there is immense pressure
on Hamas from other Arab Muslim countries to do a
deal in the war I don't think Hamas feels. I

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don't think Amas cares a lot what anybody else thinks.
If you think about the nihilistic, disaffected seventeen or nineteen
year old Hamas fighter who wants to die, wants to
go to Muslim heaven and get his seventy two virgins,

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truly deeply not only hates Jews and Israelis, but hates
any what I would call civilization.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
They hate democracy, they.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hate girls going to school, all this kind of stuff.
Are they gonna put down their AK forty sevens because
the a mirror of Cutter who formerly has funded them
is now saying, odd, it's time to wrap it up,
It's time to call it a day.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Will they?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I don't know if if some rich Hamas dude who
lives in Cutter off of however many millions of dollars
he has in his Swiss bank accounts.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
From stolen Aid money, if he tells.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
These and so he's not in Gaza and hasn't been
in Gaza for a long time and will probably never
be in Gaza again. If that guy tells this nineteen
year old fighter who is perfectly happy to die to
become a martyr, he thinks that is his way into
Muslim heaven. Is if that guy who's sort of an
outsider now tells him to drop his guns and you know,

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just get on with a more normal life, will he
do it.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I don't know. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I don't know what's in it for Hamas to give
up their weapons.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Well, to give up their weapons, but before that, to
give up the hostages. It's their only leverage. Tomorrow, by
the way, is two years. Two years since the attack.
Two years these people have been held hostage. We think
there's somewhere around forty eight, and we think around twenty
of them are alive. So we'll see Hamas is maybe negotiating.

(25:55):
Hamas is acting like they're negotiating. Are they really at No,
We won't know. I think I think President Trump should
dial back his optimism a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
He keeps talking about how he's optimistic and he thinks
something is gonna get done and YadA, YadA, YadA. Wouldn't
do that if I were If I were President Trump,
I would set the expectation bar much lower than that.
Here's the other thing I want to mention. In a
social media post, President Trump wrote the technical teams will
meet Monday now today in Egypt to work through and

(26:30):
clarify the final details. I'm told that the first phase
should be completed this week, and I'm asking everyone to
move fast. That's all in CAPS. I will continue to
monitor this century's old conflict, and then all the rest
of this is in caps Now.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Time is of the essence.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Or massive bloodshed will follow something that nobody wants to see.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Now. I don't really.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Understand that, because what does he think has been going
on in Gaza? Actually, I don't know a lot of.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
People have died in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But all these dim wits and anti semis are accusing
Israel of committing genocide. Apparently don't know what committing genocide means.
If Israel were trying to commit genocide against Palestinians, the
number of dead Palestinians would have another digit on it.
There's never in the history of war, and particularly in
urban warfare, there has never been a war where the

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ratio of civilian.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Deaths to combat combatant deaths has been.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Lower because Israel goes so far out of their way
to make sure that civilians don't die. But when your
army Hamas is intentionally hiding themselves in schools and mosques,
in hospitals and apartment buildings and other places because they
want the civilians to die in order to score a
propaganda point that doesn't obviate the need for Israel to

(27:59):
defend themselves and take out Hamas. And if Palestinian civilians die,
you know what war is hell? And if you if
you don't want held and don't start a war.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But when President Trump.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Says massive bloodshed will follow, what does he mean? Like?

Speaker 2 (28:16):
What could Israel do that they're not already doing.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Israel is not going to suddenly go in and try
to kill Palestinian civilians and they're already trying as hard
as they can to kill Hamas.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
So what exactly is Trump threatening?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
There is a zero I shouldn't say with Trump nothing zero,
But there is a less than one percent probability that
Donald Trump would allow an American soldier.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
To fight in Gaza.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Can you imagine the backlash against Donald Trump, especially from
his base, if one American soldier or marine was killed
in Gaza? No way, So I don't know what he's saying,
massive bloodshed will follow? Because if the deal doesn't happen soon, Because.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't think there is.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I don't think there is a higher level of escalation
than where it's already at all. Right, let me lighten
it up a little bit. Let me do something completely different,
much much lighter topic. I saw this a couple of
days ago over at Denver Gazette, and I thought it
was interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
This is let's see.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
By an author named writer named John Moore, the reporter
earlier start times arts organizations have seen the daylight.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think this is an interesting story.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
So I really like I like going to plays, I
like going to concerts, you know, live theater of all sorts.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I really like. And this is again Denver Gazette dot com.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
When it comes to going out for a show, seven
o'clock is the new eight o'clock. Are we getting older
or are our area arts leaders just getting wiser? Probably
a little of both. But from theater to comedy to
live music, the trend is clear. Live performances are starting.
And he talks about going to see a band and

(30:04):
he said it was on a Sunday, and he said
the concert started at five pm. He said, not long
ago was rare to see any opening band plugging an
amp before nine pm.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
And then he goes on.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
And he talks about a bunch of other local theater
companies Boulder and Silverthorne and Fort Collins and so on,
where they are having a lot of shows start now
at seven pm instead of later, and Matt Nays are
also getting busier and more popular as well, and he
says the reason for this. The reasons stem from common

(30:39):
sense to strategy to widespread anxiety over declining attendance. He says,
whether you surveyed audiences in nineteen twenty, nineteen fifty, nineteen
ninety or last week, one thing hasn't changed.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Live theater goers.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Tend to be between fifty five and seventy five years old. Now,
he's I think he's not talking about bands there, but
plays and things like that, and maybe maybe classical music,
and they don't want to be out all night. And
then he quotes a guy from the Center for the
Arts who says, our going to seven o'clock star times

(31:13):
was in response to what we've heard from our audiences
who don't want to be out at the theater until
ten thirty pm anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
He said that the call for earlier star times came
from audience members across all ages, and all demographics, and
he said that since twenty twenty three, the number of
out of town households, which means someone who lives more
than fifty miles from the theater buying a ticket to
any of their shows at the ent Center, has increased
forty percent forty percent. And so he, you know, for

(31:46):
these people, he wants to make sure they're still happy
they're driving home when they're not falling asleep behind the
wheel and all that stuff. So there's a lot more
to the to the article. They go on talking about
how there's even some places doing like a four point
thirty pm Saturday show and just being experimental. And I
will say, I don't mean this to make me sound old,

(32:08):
but maybe it will. It's okay if it does. I
like this change. And for a long time I have
wished that there would be shows that I could go
to that would start an end a little bit earlier.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And also part of the reason is that I wake up.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So I woke up at four today or four fifteen
without an alarm.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I just got up.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And it's very hard for me to sleep in on
the weekend and very hard for me to stay up
late on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
It's you know, I'm not my twenties anymore, and.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I would like to be able to go to a
show that starts and ends while I'm still feeling awake.
I enjoy it more. And that's been true for some time,
and so I like this. I wonder what you think.
Tell me your thoughts about this five six six nine zero.
For example, here's a question, would you go to more

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live theater of any type?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Any type?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
And it could be it could be you know, concert
rock concerts, or any kind of concerts.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
It could be a play, it could be a comedy show.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Would you do any of that more if the show
has started a little bit earlier. I have noticed, by
the way, so you know, Comedy Works has two locations.
They've got one not far from the radio station here
in Greenwood Village, and they have another one downtown and
that on this one's called Comedy Work South, all right,
and then they have one downtown Larimer Square show. And

(33:39):
of course the downtown one has on average a younger
audience than the suburban one, a lot younger.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I go to shows at both.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Right, The average age for the suburban club is probably
in the fifties, and the average age for the Downtown
Club is probably in the thirties, and at least at
the suburban club, at the South Club, I've noticed the
shows are a little bit earlier than they used to be,
and I like it, And I want to know what

(34:06):
you think.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Now. Here's the other thing that occurred to me.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't know whether the trend they are talking about
is a nationwide trend or if this is more of
a local or local ish story, because it occurs to
me as somebody who has lived on the East coast
of the United States right. I went to college in
New York, grew up around DC. I also worked in

(34:31):
Chicago for a long time. I also lived in Amsterdam
and traveled around Europe quite a lot now that I
live in Colorado, and this has been clear to me
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
This is not a new thing.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
We wake up earlier, we go to bed earlier, and
wake up earlier here than they do. You know, the
further east you go, and I'm talking about then, even
going across the Atlantic to Europe, the further east you go,
the later the dinner time and bedtime, and all you
know is and I found a study that was released

(35:06):
less than two months ago and I believe this actually
comes from data collected on people's Apple watches, and this
has the average time at which a resident of a
particular state goes to sleep and also how long they sleep,

(35:31):
and Colorado is tied for the sixth earliest time. The
earliest is Hawaii at eleven oh six pm, then New
Mexico and Arizona at eleven twelve. Maine east, those upper
Northeast states are are kind of early too.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Maine in New Hampshire are both up.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
There, Wyoming, and then Colorado is actually tied with New
Hampshire at eleven nineteen. The latest are East coast, as
we were talking about DC, just a few minutes before midnight,
New York just a few minutes before that, Puerto Rico,
which is further east, just a couple of minutes before that,
and then other really or really I'm sorry, really late

(36:11):
two bed states Kentucky, Georgia, Ohio, interestingly enough, Utah. Anyway,
my point is we tend to go to bed earlier here.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
We also, by the way, Colorado, we like our sleep.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
The amount that we sleep is on the higher end
among the states.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
But in any case, we like our sleep.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
We go to bed a little bit earlier than other
parts of the country do, and that's part of the
reason I think they're doing this. I'll be interested to
see if it's a nationwide trend, but just to see
it locally it's great for me. I'd like to know
your thoughts. Text me at five six six nine zero.
I am very pleased to be joined in studio by
James Reeman. He is a member of the board of

(36:53):
directors at Wings over the Rockies and we're going to
talk about an amazing event coming up celebrating two hundred
fifty years of the Marine Corps. But before, first of all,
thanks for being here, Ross, thanks for having me Man
and James the former F sixteen pilot thirty one years
in the air National Guard and currently a pilot for
a major US airline. Before we get to the Wings

(37:13):
over the Rockies thing, first, you told me where you
just came back from.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Where was that? I was in Prague yesterday? Yesterday? Okay?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
And Prague, Prague, Vienna and Budapest is my next listener
trip in April, going with thirty So so do you
want to tell my listeners, like, should they be excited
to go to Prague because there's a few spots left
on the trip that I'm trying to sell.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, you should definitely be excited.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
The great thing about Eastern Europe it's got all of
the I think things that Western Europe has, but a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
More charm and appeal. It's not quite as touristy.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
The castles and the people and the cold beer and
everything is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh, you guys are gonna have a great time. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
All right, rosstrip dot com to learn more. I'm gonna
make an advertisement out of that. Rosstrip dot com. And
then the other thing is, first of all, let me
say with voice, you should be on the radio.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
So what are you doing next weekend? Next week this
coming weekend. Yeah, my son and I are going to
go to London. Apparently there's a football professional NFL football
game there. So as an airline pilot, that's a fun thing.
A little perk is to get to go on the
road for fun events. I believe that, you know, the
Broncos have some momentum this year, so we're really looking

(38:22):
forward to that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'm a little jealous.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
All right, let's talking about what Let's talk about what's
going on? It wings over the Rockies on Sunday, November ninth.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Yeah, it's really a privilege for us, the fact that
it's the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Marine Corps,
older than our nation, right, and if anybody knows Marines
what a special group of people. I mean, all of
our military service members deserve a nod, but the Marines
kind of are in this special category of bravery, camaraderie,
you know. To be able to celebrate two hundred and

(38:50):
fifty years of that at the museum is fantastic. And
the venue it wings over the Rockies. I'm sure you
guys have been there. It's just spectacular, a World War
Two era hangar. And so the fact that we get
to bring the Marine Corps in to celebrate them is
really unique. And what's unique about this ball ross is
the Marine Corps Birthday ball has a procedure and protocol

(39:12):
that's followed throughout the world. There's a presentation of the colors,
a message from the combanant is played, same message to
every marine in the world.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Here's the same message.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
And then we have a fantastic guest speaker, a major
general that's coming in to speak, and then a cutting
of the cake and then a little bit of debauchery
to go with it. But this particular Marine Corps ball,
we're opening up to the public, so we not only
want local marines and their families to attend, but anybody
that's a supporter of the military or a supporter of

(39:45):
what the Marine Corps stands for has an opportunity to
come to this fantastic venue and sharing this event with us.
So we're super excited about it.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
So easiest way folks to find this and this event
will sell out, So get your tickets soon. Simper like
simplify the Marine cor motto simper two five zero dot
com s E M P e R two five zero
dot com. That will take you right to the Wings
over the Rockies page where you can buy tickets for it.
You can also go to Wingsmuseum dot org and it's

(40:13):
right up there on the front page.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Tell me a little bit about the Harrier two. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
So the interesting twist of how we ended up being
able to host this event this year is our our curator,
super guy mister Bailey, worked really hard to help us
get one of the last Harriers that was operationally flying,
and the Harrier fit into a really unique spot in
military avtion history because it allowed marines, you know, first

(40:39):
to the fight on AirLand and sea, to operate not
off of runways. It has a vertical takeoff and landing capability. Yeah,
and so as much engines rotat to fight. Yeah, as
much as I think the F sixteen is the world's
greatest fighter, which it probably still is, the Harrier it
just fits into this really unique marine specialty.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So the museum secured one.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
That airplane flew from Cherry Point, North Carolina this summer,
landed at Buckley. They fueled it, de milled it, and
there was about thirty marines out there who had flown
it and worked on it and stuff, and they were
so excited and they go, Hey, when are you guys
going to dedicate this thing? And we came up with
this crazy idea. We go, you know, there's a special
birthday this year, so we really want the emphasis to

(41:24):
be all marines because pilots are a pretty small percentage.
But the initial inspiration for this event was the fact
that we're going to dedicate that Harrier to the museum.
It's going to be our first dedicated Marine Corps aircraft.
So it dovetails really well, you know, wings has done
such a good job of preserving aviation's history to try
to inspire future generations. And I'm not going to say

(41:47):
the Marines have been a missing piece in there, but
we're really going to solidify that and have this great
Marine Corps ball to celebrate two hundred and fifty years
what the Marines have done for us. And then at
the end the little special ceremony where you know, the
spotlight's going to hit that harrier and we're going to
have a speech from a couple of the local gentleman
pilots that flew that thing in combat. So wow, really

(42:09):
looking forward to And folks, if you've never been to
Wings over the Rockies, it's like Colorado's own air and
space museum.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Don't have to travel out to DC and deal with
all that Michigas out there.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
So it's just an incredible place, right.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So again the website Wingsmuseum dot org tickets for this
remarkable event. Simper s C m P E R two
fifty So s C M P E R two five
zero dot com. I'm I'm I'm really excited. I don't
know if I'm gonna be able to get there. I'm
gonna I'm gonna try. It's hard for me when I
worked the next day, but we'll see. I would really

(42:43):
like to I would really like to come to this
and see that harrier. They're just such such crazy it's
a crazy concept for an airplane and get there.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
It is, it really is.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
It dovetails so well with what the Marines do because
it's such a unique, special thing.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
And we worked pretty hard. We're doing it early on a.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Side afternoon, okay, on the day where there's no Bronco game.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
So clever.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I kind of like the planets aligned for us, very
very clever. And I share your feeling about the Marines.
Even though my parents both served in the Navy. I
grew I spent much of my childhood on and around
Camp Pendleton because the Marines used Navy doctors and my
parents were Navy doctors. So I lived on base on
Camp Pendleton and then a little bit off base, but
was there all the time. And so I love the

(43:24):
Marines too, even though my family is Navy. Yeah, that's
that's an interesting time.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
My dad boarded a boat in Camp Pendleton in the
fifties and went and fought in Korea for the Core,
so very special to me as well.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
James Reemon is board member at Wings over the Rockies,
former F sixteen pilot.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I love the Tomcat, dude, I really, I mean I've
never flown one.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, well, I think top Gun may may have assuaged
you on that top I.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Got great, great airybody. I'm sure the movie did a bit.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But also we lived near Camp Pendleton, so we would
drive down to Miramar and.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Watch the Tomcats taking off.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
So it wasn't just the movie, like my dad would
point out all the planes, and I had that kind
of growing up.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
But well, be sure and come by the museum then,
because we have a great Tomcat in there too, And
one of our board members was just featured on a
podcast talking all about his experience flying the Tomcat back
in the day. So all of that great stuff at
Wingsmuseum dot org. And we really appreciate you guys supporting
us in this endeavor.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Well glad to have you and folks go to Simper
two fifty dot com and get your tickets for this
incredible party ball dedicating the Harrier. It's Sunday, November ninth.
Hopefully I'll see you there. James Raymond thanks for joining
me in studio.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Thank you so much, sir.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Hi there, Yeah, oh I like talking to that guy.
He's got a really good voice for radio. Did you
notice that.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
The face too, he's you know, he's not too bad
looking like us.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
There's whoever, whoever you are, who is sending me some
really aggressively anti Semitic texts. I would just like you
to know that I am, uh, not only am I
blocking you from texting me right now, but I am
blocking you from texting anybody here at KOA using.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
The block all. Yeah, I'm using block all.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
So you won't be able to text anybody here at KOA,
nor will you be able to text, although I don't
know if you do. Are our friends over on the
Fox use the same text line in the morning, and
so you will be blocked from texting anybody at all. Boy,
if you folks read what just came through to me
on untext, you would you would be pretty surprised at

(45:30):
how aggressively evil it was, uh, even even in the
days that we live in. Now.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
All right, so he's sense he's blocked. Now can you
see what that not anymore?

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I mean I saw it a second ago. Into my page, refreshed,
and that's gone. Even from the history of the text line,
it's just it's gone.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
So yeah, great job, yeah, great job, you got yourself banned.
Oh here's a crazy story. Did you hear about former
NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez? What a nutty story is Mark
Sanchez thing? I didn't he play in.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Denver for a very short time?

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Backup for a while? Yeah, I was back up here
in Denver for a little while.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Most of his most of his career, to the extent
that anybody remembers him, was within New York Jets. But
what was crazy about this story is and I'm looking
at the Associated Press version of the headline here, and
I'll just read the first part of the headline and
then I'll.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Get to the second part of the headline.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
But the first part of the headline X NFL quarterback
Mark Sanchez stabbed multiple times in altercation. Okay, that's bad,
you know that's bad for him.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Here's the whole headline.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
X NFL quarterback Mark Sanchez stabbed multiple times in altercation,
leading to charges against him. Oh against him? So apparently
we don't really know because Mark Mark Sanchez, if you
take him at his word was prob was so drunk
and I don't know if any other subset were involved

(47:01):
that he doesn't even remember. He claims he doesn't remember
what happened, but apparently he went into some alley in
Indianapolis where.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
He was there to call a.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Football game where I forget CBS, maybe I forget what
what network he's what network he's with, But in any case, no, no,
it's it's Fox. It's Fox mess And so he was
there to call a game, and I guess he goes
into this alley and gets into an argument with some
sixty nine year old truck driver and shoves him, knocks

(47:35):
him to the ground. The guy, the sixty nine year
old guy pepper sprays Mark Sanchez, who I guess keeps
coming at him, and the guy had a knife and
to defend himself, he stabbed Mark Sanchez a few times,
not fatally, he stabbed him, and I guess Mark Sanchez
went away. So, Okay, this was a box truck that

(47:59):
was backed into loading docks at a hotel. Maybe it
was the hotel Mark Sanchez was staying at. I don't know,
I don't know, but Sanchez got stabbed in his upper
right chest.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
He went to the hospital and.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Then he was arrested and he's facing charges because the
guy said, the guy who Sanchez attacked said, I.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Thought he was gonna kill me. Crazy, huh.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
So Sanchez has been charged with battery resulting an injury,
unauthorized entry of a motor vehicle, and public intoxication, all misdemeanors.
Police got a warrant to obtain his phone and clothes
from a hospital.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Marion County Prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Said that his office would follow the facts in law
wherever they went. They said, what began is a disagreement
between a thirty eight year old former professional athlete and
a sixty nine year old man should not have escalated
into violence or left anyone serious injured. So actually Sanchez
was supposed to go call a game and then he
wasn't there, and so, you know, so then the folks

(49:08):
at Fox, I guess, had to figure out how to
work around around him. In any case, what a crazy story.
How often do you hear a story where somebody gets
stabbed and the other guy doesn't get stabbed and the
guy who gets stabbed is the one who has the
charges file against him. And by the way, I am
not suggesting the charges are wrong. I suspect they're absolutely right,

(49:30):
But boy, what a bonehead move, by the way, you
know you've got. I'm sure the dude makes a lot
of money calling football games on Fox and probably.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Has a pretty good life as a.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Professional athlete, you know, run around, sign in autographs, you know,
people want to take selfies with him or whatever, and
then he goes and does that. I mean, I don't
know that this is going to be the end of
his TV career or whatever else he's doing now, but
I would say at the very least, it's a bad
look and we'll see. We'll see what happens. A lot

(50:01):
of times famous people tend to get away with things.
My guess on this is that he'll plead guilty if you,
if you were, asked me to bet on it, because
I don't think he'll want to go through a trial
and have that spectacle. And I bet you his bosses
at Fox, if they're even thinking about keeping him, we'll
tell him that. So I bet you he takes some
kind of plea deal where he's got you know, little

(50:24):
to no jail time.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
In return for pleading guilty. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I do think that he probably should spend you know,
a week or a month or something in jail. Given
the one that he got, even the fact that he
got stabbed and not the other guy, you know, he
probably doesn't need a year in jail. We'll see. Gosh,
that's a bad look, Mark Sanchez. Ballots should be getting
mailed out in lots of places, and it's an off

(50:51):
year election, and if you don't pay a ton of
attention to politics, you might even be surprised to know
there are ballots coming your way.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Although probably most people who listen to this show.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Know there are various municipal elections going on. There's also
a couple ballot initiatives that we'll talk about another time.
But I am joined today to talk on the municipal
election side, the local elections. I'm joined by Stephanie Pico,
who is the mayor of Centennial and a fellow graduate

(51:20):
of the Leadership Program of the Rockies, and we are
going to talk a little bit about things that are
specific to Centennial, but really my goal with Stephanie is
to use some of the concepts, some of the principles
that she's going to describe in how to do your
own homework on candidates for you to apply it anywhere
that you live in Colorado where you're facing a municipal election.

(51:44):
So with that, Stephanie, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
It's good to see you again.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Thanks, Ross, good to be with you, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
So and folks, I will refer you if you specifically,
if you live in Centennial, to defend Centennial dot com.
Defend Centennial dot com. So why don't you just jump in?
You've done this before. What do we need to know?
What's the point you want to make today?

Speaker 7 (52:07):
Well, I think one of the most pressing issues that
for the entire state of Colorado, especially all the communities
along the Front Range, is the extended overreach that the
state has been putting across municipalities.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
You've heard about the lawsuit.

Speaker 7 (52:21):
Municipalities have filed against the state for attacking home rule
authority and land use decisions and really silencing the public's
voice in that process. So by eliminating the opportunity for
your local people to have a local say in what
happens in their communities, the state and the state legislation

(52:41):
tours in particular, have voted to say.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
You know, no, we're going to silence you.

Speaker 7 (52:46):
We're not going to let you talk about what happens
in your own communities. We're going to know, we know
what's best, and we think we should have more of
a centralized approach of government for some places along the
Front Range, not everybody.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
So it's not quite state ride construcs.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
And I know people know about the lawsuit, but I
think it's important to go look and see what legislators
are supporting, what municipal candidates to exactly say that they
have voted against your home rule authority and that should
really be taken into consideration on those municipal candidates as well.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Okay, so let's not assume that everybody knows what you
or I know, and just take a moment and explain
the lawsuit that you've mentioned twice.

Speaker 7 (53:29):
So the lawsuit is filed by six municipalities from all
over the Front Range, varying from Aurora to Evada, Lafayette,
Greenwood Village, and they have said that the zoning laws
that were changed by the state saying requiring us to
have forty units per acre along the I twenty five

(53:49):
corridor and prohibiting us from requiring parking at those locations
is what the lawsuit is based on.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Saying that the.

Speaker 7 (53:59):
State institution already guarantees, and it has been upheld by
the Supreme Court that local land use decisions are best
made locally. And so what the state did and what
Governor Polus signed and the legislatures supported, was basically taking
away that right for cities to determine their own land

(54:20):
use in their municipalities.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Okay, and so now we'll move away from that sort
of because you know, we're not here to talk about
that particular policy right now, but rather what your focus
is these upcoming municipal elections. So I want you to
tie that into how you would recommend that my listeners
try to do their own homework to analyze whether a

(54:43):
particular candidate for let's say, city council or some other
municipal role is somebody they want to support. Lots of
folks have no idea how to research these candidates, or
don't even think about research income, and they just vote
for whoever's yard sign they've seen.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
So what's your advice.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Well, that's some of.

Speaker 7 (55:02):
The things that have been pointed out at the Defense
Centennial website, which anybody can go to and check. But
there were a number of ordinances and one that's particularly.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Impactful was HB twenty.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Four or one zero zero seven, which eliminated occupancy limits
in residential housing and single family zoning.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
And that's something that has turned in some neighborhoods. Rental
property is.

Speaker 7 (55:27):
Now having fourteen people living in a rental piece of
rental property.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
So I think it's important.

Speaker 7 (55:32):
To be concerned that if a legislator is supporting a
municipal candidate, why are they supporting them if they voted
against home rule authority?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
And so you think you should think out, think it
through to.

Speaker 7 (55:46):
Make that connection between what might how they might influence
that municipal government further by continuing to erode on local control.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
And the bill that Stephanie just mentioned how spill ten
oh seven from last year just.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
A quick bill summary.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
The act prohibits county cities, counties, cities and counties which
would be like Denver, Broomfield, and municipalities from limiting the
number of people who may live together in a single
dwelling based on familial relationship.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
In other words, it had been that these places can say.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Well, you can have maybe unlimited, but certainly plenty of
people living in a house as long as they are
you know, husband, wife, kids, you know, related to each other.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And now now the municipalities and.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
These other subsections of government can limit occupancy based only
on and again quoting from the legislature's website, health and
safety standards internet such as International building Code standards, fire
code regulations, or public health and environment waste water and
water quality standards. So basically, I won't quite say it's unlimited,

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but it's it's it's very different.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
And the point is the home rule thing, right.

Speaker 7 (57:05):
It is exactly they keep passing things that have chipped
away at the city's ability to regulate themselves and for
the citizens to regulate themselves. And so you know, if
you if you check out some of the bills that
are highlighted on that website, they'll tell you where you
can go and then look to see if your legislators
actually supported that bill or not, or if.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
They helped, you know, fight against it.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
Then that would be you wouldn't you would want somebody
who stands up for home rule authority.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
That is what most of the cities that our home
rule are are are fighting for across the entire state.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You know, one thing I have a piece of advice
for you Stephanie over it over at defend Centennial dot com.
So when I scroll down a little bit, I see
the list of bills that you object to, I would
I would make each one of those bills a link
to the legislature's website for that bill, or even to

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the legislature's sub page for that bill that shows how
people voted, because right now there's nothing I can click
on that takes me to each bill one at a time,
or to a vote page.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
So I'd be pretty easy to do. I would do
that if I were you.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I would be easy for them to take care of.
So I'll make that recommendation.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Okay, So again just quickly. Now we're just about out
of time. So we've talked a lot about the bills
and the state reps and state senators who voted for
the bills. So what are you telling my listeners? What
are you suggesting to my listeners that they should do
when it comes to the municipal elections, Because the state
reps and senators are not on the ballot. Other people

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are on the ballot, So what do you want them
to do?

Speaker 7 (58:47):
I think it's important to look and see who is
endorsing your municipal candidates and understand their relationship with how
they have voted in the past, either for or against
home rule authority. If they have voted against home rule,
it's very likely that they couldn't be influencing those candidates

(59:07):
to not fight back against the state's overreach.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, folks, So this is the concept you can see
at Defend Centennial, and you don't. You can go look
at these bills yourself. And but when you look at
your municipal candidates, and what Stephanie is getting at is
see who's endorsing them from the state legislature, because that's
a good heuristic, a good shortcut. You can see which legislators,

(59:32):
if any, are endorsing your municipal candidate, and then look
up how that legislator has voted. And more often than not,
when you're looking an election on an off your ballot
like this, the candidate will not be identified with a
D or an R, and it'll make it a little
bit harder for you to know. But if everybody who's

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endorsing that candidate is a D or everybody who's endorsing
the candidate is an R, that's a good way for
you to have a as to whether that's a candidate
who is likely to share your beliefs in things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
And there may.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Be folks listening to the show who want to vote
for Democrats who don't want cities to be able to
make their own decisions. I'm not with you on that,
but you could use this heuristic in any direction.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
It's just a useful tool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
The other thing that I will say is that more
often than not, candidates for local office, candidates for city
council and things like that, are much easier to get
into contact with than you might think. And a lot
of times if you go to their web pages, they've
got their own email that they read. Most of these
people don't have much money to spend on campaign staff.
They often don't have somebody filtering their email. Sometime they

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will put their own cell phone number on there. And
as long as you're polite, I would encourage you to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Just call them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
If you don't, if there's no answer online that answers
your question, give them a call and say how do
you feel about this or that? And remember whether you're
whether you like them or don't like them, be polite.
I'll give you the last nineteen seconds because I like
prime number Stephanie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
I appreciate that. Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
I know it's always frustrating for everyone to hear the
words this is an off election year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
It's an off cycle election. Every year is an election year.
We have important.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
Elections at the municipal level, at school board levels, and
it's really important for people to get engaged, lean in
a little bit more and figure out exactly what it
is that they are voting for when it comes to
the government that is closest to them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Stephanie Pico is mayor of Centennial and a fellow graduate
of the Leadership Program of the Rockies. Thank you for
your leadership, Stephanie, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Thanks Ross, I appreciate the time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
All right, glad to do it. Okay. I think that's
a useful heuristic. I really do It's local government has
more impact on your life than you might think. I'll
give you an example, actually, so one of those cities
that has filed the lawsuit has a proposed development going
on right now for some fairly large number of units.

(01:02:04):
I forget the number ninety or something like that, and
it's going to be much higher density housing than you
have already in this particular area.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
And then we have to see what happens with parking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And by the way, I really struggle with this because
sometimes I think that cities imposed too much too much,
you know, I think that sometimes when a city imposes
a requirement that every townhouse needs to have, you know,
two of its own parking spaces, Let's say, you know
what if a third of the people who live there

(01:02:38):
really only want one parking space, don't need the other.
Now you've got a parking space that is taking up
valuable land, if you're in an area where land is valuable,
and just having that extra parking space could raise the
price of the townhouse by thirty or fifty or eighty
thousand dollars. Well, wouldn't it be better in a situation
like that to have one parking space and have a

(01:02:58):
townhouse that's fifty cheaper? And I do think that sometimes
cities are are just a little too aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
But the thing is, Jared Polis and so many.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Democrats frequently talk about how much they like home rule,
but they only like it until they don't. They like
home rule until you're in a until you're in an
area that's producing oil and gas. Now they don't want
home rule anymore, Right, They like home rule until you're
in an area that is protecting single family home neighborhoods
and wanting to keep them single family home neighborhoods. But

(01:03:33):
they want more density to bring down the price of housing,
and so they don't like home rule anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
There's no principle involved.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
And this is what frustrates me so much, although it
doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It's we're used to it now, we're used to it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
But I do think that's that's a great heuristic, is
go look at which state legislators are endorsing your local
candidates for city council, for school board and things like that.
And let's say you don't have a lot of time
to do a lot of homework. It's a fine heuristic.

(01:04:08):
It's better than it's better than having no information at
all to say.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
And I'm just going to use a hypothetical.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Example to say, and I'm not talking about me now,
but let's say my average listener probably leans Republican, right,
My average listener is center right. So let's just pick
an average listener tends to vote Republican. And let's say
you've got someone running for city council in your town,
and you don't know anything about him or her. If

(01:04:36):
you go on the website, and remember these people are
not identified as Democrats or Republicans in these municipal elections,
doesn't say any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
So you go to the website and you look up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Who's endorsing and if you're a Republican and you see
that it's all Democrats endorsing that person, you might want
to vote for the other guy. If it's all Republicans
voting for that person, you might want to vote for
that woman. It's just look, I'm not saying it's per
but it's probably better than nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Okay, here's a fun job.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
This is from Entrepreneur magazine about Netflix. Oh before I
tell you about this Netflix job offer, Kristin and I,
my wife and I watched an interview yesterday that is
a Netflix special called I think it was called Famous
Last Words. I think Jane Goodall. Can you look that up?

(01:05:29):
Dragon and just look up look up Netflix Jane Goodall,
and just tell me if I if I have the
name of the special right. But anyway, so Jane Goodall
passed away. It was I think it was on Yom Kapoor?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Is that right? Famous Last Words?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
And I talked about or maybe she passed away a
week ago Wednesday and I talked about her the day
after Yom kipor because I wasn't here that Thursday. Jane
Goodall is one of the few people who've been living
in recent years that I would really call unique, really
one of a kind. There's very few like that, and

(01:06:05):
the ones who are tend to be kind of famous.
Maybe Elon Musk, I don't know, but Jane Goodall quite remarkable.
In her later years, she became very much of an activist,
very very worried about climate change, much more worried than
I am. More political she's been. She'd been pessimistic about
the world with the direction of political leadership in the US,

(01:06:27):
but not only the US, lots of other places. In
any case, this interview on Netflix, called Famous Last Words
Jane Goodall is remarkable. I don't know exactly when it
was recorded. I think the information is there. It maybe
was at the very beginning of the interview when I
missed the first three minutes. My wife started watching it
without me, but I watched almost all of it. It

(01:06:50):
was recorded recently before she died. But check this out, Dragon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
The rules were it would not be aired until after
she was dead, and so the conversation has the interviewer
or interviewer asking her questions like, well, now that you
are not here, what do you want people to know
about how you think about death? Or what do you

(01:07:16):
want people to know about your suggestions for how we
live our lives? And you may or may not care
about what a particular person has to say about that question, right,
I don't care what most people want to say about
how we live our lives. But Jane Goodall is an
utterly fascinating person, regardless of what you think of her
more recent activism. Could hardly be a more fascinating person,

(01:07:39):
a more incredible life going to Africa in what the
nineteen fifties or something as a girl, I mean, just unbelievable.
But it's a remarkable interview watching it knowing not only
that she's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
That's not the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
There's lots of There's an unlimited number of interviews out
there of people who aren't alive anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It's the fact that she recorded it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
With the stipulation that it wouldn't be aired until she
was dead, So she's being asked questions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Along the lines of now that you're dead.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Now what, it's really remarkable, So go watch that on Netflix.
Really really a very special interview, one of the most
interesting interviews I've seen in my entire life. Okay, back
to this other Netflix thing I wanted to share with you,
and again, this is from Entrepreneur magazine. While companies are
mandating employees back to the office, Netflix is offering up

(01:08:33):
to seven hundred thousand dollars for a fully remote job.
The streaming giant posted an opening on its internal job
board on September twenty three for a generative AI product manager,
and the position is still quote actively.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Recruiting, according to the job post.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
In the description, Netflix wrote that the position plays a
pivotal part in selecting and implementing the generative AI products
Netflix uses internally and quote guide products.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
From vision to execution.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
So the job requires a bachelor's degree and at least
six years of product management experience with a focus on
enterprise applications and proven experience creating and launching generative AI solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Now, that seven hundred thousand dollars number.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I gave you was the high end of the range,
but the job is posted with a range of between
two hundred and forty thousand, which also doesn't suck. That's
almost as much as Dragon makes right now, way more
than I make a range of two hundred and forty
thousand to seven hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Which is more than what's typical for similar.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Jobs, though it does seem to be on par with
other tech companies over the top payouts that we've been
seeing in recent years. According to the posting, this is
only an annual salary. Netflix does not pay bonuses, although
every year. Employees can decide individually. Again, this is from
entrepreneur dot com how much of their compensation they want

(01:09:57):
divided between salary and how much in stock options.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Anyway, I don't know whether that's open.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
For you to apply or whether they're only asking people
who currently work at Netflix, but it sounds like the
skill set would be something they would have to ask
outside of the company in order to get enough applicants.
So if that sounds like you, an expert in generative
AI with a bachelor's degree in at least six months
of product management experience.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Maybe you go try to get the job.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I'm not worried about losing my producer no though, because
he already makes more than that. All right, So that's
another time, but it's not in the last five minutes anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
And then heuristic is a really good word.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
It means like a mental shortcut, kind of a way
to help you make a decision without having to do
too much effort.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
I really like it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Ross what's a normal dollar amount for fundraising for a
city council candidate? I have no idea, but it wouldn't
surprise me if it's, you know, ten thousand dollars or
some fairly small number.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I just I don't know, pocket change for some for
some ROSSA.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
I just saw news that Rush meaning Geddy Alex and
a chick on drums will tour in twenty twenty six
to fifty something, tour seven cities, but not Denver. I
might look to see where they're playing. Maybe it'd be
something i'd you know, get on a plane and go do.
But I'm a little a little less likely to do

(01:11:25):
that than with than with for a band I've never
seen before, because I've seen Russ a couple of times,
including and this was really really nuts, all right, should
I tell I'm gonna tell you a little story. Back
in the day, I knew a guy who was a
ticket scalper who had some kind of inside connection with

(01:11:47):
the ticketing people.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
At Red Rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
And if you've ever been to Red Rocks, you will
notice that the very front row is where the folks
in wheelchairs are.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
It's easy access.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
So this guy that I knew had access to those seats.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
I didn't want to know, and so there were a
few times where I sat up there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Now, I don't think I took a space that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
I don't think I kept a person in a wheelchair
from attending the concert. It's not like that section is
full of people in wheelchairs, right there's you know, there
might be there might be eighty people in that row
or whatever the number is, and maybe five of them
are in wheelchairs. Right, But still this guy had access
to to those seats, and they're very expensive front row

(01:12:42):
at Red Rocks, And so I saw I saw a
rush there. I want to say, I want to say
I paid four hundred and fifty dollars for my ticket,
which you know what, you know, what's kind of insane
these days.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
People wouldn't wouldn't blink, might blink one eye, you wouldn't
blink both eyes at.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Saying one of the most famous bands to be in
the front row. I'm not saying people would would easily
say they would spend that much, but I think people
would easily say, oh, it doesn't surprise me that somebody
spent that much. Makes sense, right, right, that makes sense.
How much did people pay? And this is sort of
a different level maybe, but how much did people pay
for the best seats at a Taylor Swift concert?

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Right? Some way more than that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Right, Like you know, in the secondary market, a scalper's market,
four hundred and fifty dollars probably got you, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
One of the one of the maybe not the worst,
but a pretty bad seed. So anyway, I paid.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Four hundred and fifty bucks to sit in the front
row to see Rush, and then I saw them another
time from the second or third row at Red Rocks.
And it's hard to match that. So I don't know
that I would go around the country. Rush will be
in La June seventh and ninth. Well, it's a long
time from now. Tickets go on sale Thursday at eight
fifty nine hour time. I'll be getting tickets. It'll never
be the same without Neil. But I am intrigued by

(01:13:59):
Anika Niles. This is and I have I didn't go
look this up, but it's spelled in this listener's text
n I l l e X. So let me go
see if that's if that's right? Yeah, Anika and one
A one n I'm sorry one n A n I
k A Niles or Nils n I l l e S.
She is a German drummer, composer, solo musician, and musical educator.

(01:14:23):
I'm reading from from Wikipedia. She launched her career on
YouTube Gosh What a World Right in the early twenty tens,
and has released two full length albums to date, both
with the backing band Neville N E V E l
L Wow. Can you find anything from her? Dragon Annika

(01:14:45):
A n I k A nillis n I l l
e S. I'm guessing on the pronunciation as a German name,
probably something like nilis there. You go, all right, So
thank you for sharing that. Thank you for sharing that
information with me. I would like to tell you about
an article, and I'm not really going to read from
the article. I'm just going to tell you about it

(01:15:06):
because I've posted it on my blog and it's very
long and it's in the weeds. And it's not something
that everybody will care about as much as I care
about it. But it's called the Real China Model, and
it's published in Foreign Affairs magazine, and the subtitle of
the article is Beijing's Enduring Formula for Wealth and Power.

(01:15:26):
And it's the kind of article you would expect to read.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
In Foreign Affairs magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
It is a very long piece, and I am not
going to share I'm not going to read any.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Of it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
But the concept is, here is what China is doing
to outcompete the United States in our modern economy. Here
are the areas where the United States has fallen behind.
Here are the areas where the United States is still ahead.
And here are some things that the United States could
do to try to make sure that we can get

(01:15:59):
ahead in some things stay ahead in other things. And
I will just note a lot, a lot, A lot
a lot has to do with how inexpensively can we
generate electricity. And this is one of the reasons that
the radical environmentalist movement, which has been against nuclear for
so long and then against natural gas and for wind

(01:16:22):
and solar, which simply they could potentially be a part
of an overall fit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
I'm pretty skeptical about wind except in West Texas, but
I don't know we'll see solar again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
The sun doesn't always shine in.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
The areas where it does, in the areas where it
shines most, it still doesn't always shine. So I'm a
little skeptical about that stuff. But the bottom line is,
especially with Donald Trump's push toward a more manufacturing, more
industrial economy, and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I don't think that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Get very far, but for it to get anywhere, it's absolutely, massively,
critically important that we get energy costs down as much
as possible, because when you're making things, when you're making metal,
when you're making electronics, when you're making things with systems
and methods that require an immense amount of energy, and

(01:17:15):
especially an immense amount of electricity, you can have situations
where the cost of the energy starts to approach or
maybe even exceed depending on the process, the cost of
the raw material. And so if the question of whether
you can compete as an international maker of some particular

(01:17:36):
thing that's in that kind of category depends on how
cheaply we can produce energy, the most important thing we
can do, And now I'm getting away from the article
a little bit. But the most important thing we can
do is develop nuclear power as quickly as possible. Anyway,
this article is up on my blog at Roskaminsky dot com,
along with a ton of other topics that I'm not
even going to have time to get to on today's show,

(01:17:57):
but I think you will find interesting. The article is
called the Rea Real China Model Dragon.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Have you found anything I did? I'll bump bump bump
back with it when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Okay, this is cool. We're gonna take a quick break
here when we come back. The music you're gonna hear
on that on the bumper is this. I won't call
her a young lady necessarily, she's in her forties. Uh
Anika Nilis who is drumming with Rush Now, Oh my gosh,
I can't wait to hear it. The tickets go on
sale next next Friday. It looks like for a Saturday

(01:18:30):
night in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Next July, so we'll see. Yeah, I guess, I guess
I go to that and I did that. I've got
friends in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
I used to live there, so it's probably not a
bad excuse for me to go to Chicago for a
couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Yes, Dragon, I.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Got nothing wrong with her whatsoever. I'm sure she's a fine,
fantastic drummer. Yeah, but she doesn't nearly have enough drums
in that YouTube video. She's only got like the standard
kid of you know, five or six. Oh my gosh,
that won't work for rush who. No, you need enough
drums to fill thirty or forty.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
You need enough drums to fill most people's homes. All right,
I need to do this because I was failing during
the break. Are you ready ready for your play by play?

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
God? All right, Here we go, Here we go. It
was absolutely terrible for there he goes to his crumpling
up the key trip.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
By the way, I don't have headphones on, so I
have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
What Dragon is saying.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
He could be saying anything about me right now, and
I wouldn't know because I can't hear him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
All right, takes a step back further than he has before,
and he missed every other shot that he's tried during
the break. He shot like four or five times, missed
every single one, overly confident of trying to make them,
And of course a swing and a miss on this
one too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Just the right wasn't as good as I thought.

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
It was terrible. It was terrible. Ross, he can't hear me,
but it's funny, all right, you got no one bounced
off of the side out of the last Yep, sure enough.
Now you're gonna be over ten. It's fine, don't worry
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Isn't this really good? Radio Dragon? I'm sure they're loving it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:55):
We're gonna try one more time, and sure enough, off
to the left again. Dude, just just better. No, no, oh,
he's gonna try again. Oh, slam dunk, all right, beautiful. Okay,
so that was embarrassing. Yeah, it finally did a drash can, Dragon,
and I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
We just wasted a few minutes of your time with
Ross trying to throw a lot of crumpled paper into
a trash can, for which Dragon says.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
You're welcome. You're welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
But we haven't mentioned yet. And I don't think you
mentioned in the hour that I wasn't here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:20:25):
The real reason as to why the Broncos won the game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I did something that I've actually never done before. And
this may surprise some people.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
I love, love, love watching football on television, and I
almost always when there's a Broncos game, I make sure
that I'm either in front of television during the game
or IDVR it and started an hour or an hour
and a half or two hours later, so I can
kind of skip the commercials and jump through.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
And I didn't do that yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Instead, I listened to almost the entire game. I think
maybe I missed the first few minutes of the first quarter,
or I listened to the basically the entire game on
the iHeartRadio app listening to KOA, listening to Dave and
Rick call the game as I was doing, driving around
doing things, and then I went for and then I

(01:21:13):
went for a run, and I listened to the entire game.
And I don't I don't think i've I mean i've
in the past, I've often heard some of the game
on KOA listening to Rick and Dave. I don't think
I've ever listened to a whole game like I did yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
And it was it was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
And there is something I'll tell you when you get
a really really good play by play guy like Dave Logan,
and he's describing not just what happens during the play,
but before the play, what's the formation and someone moving
from you know, trips left to tight right, and he
really paints a picture. And you can, if you've watched

(01:21:52):
enough football so that you know what the terminology means,
you can picture it in your head.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
So I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
I almost felt like I was watching the game, even
though I.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
Wasn't completely checks out because the first game against the Titans, Yeah,
you were holding the dish on the sideline, Yeah, listening
to the game. The Bengals game, Yeah, on the sideline, Yeah,
listening to the game. Yeah, yesterday you were listening to
the so Ross you have immense power. Do you understand

(01:22:20):
the responsibility you have taken upon yourself? You must listen
to every Broncos game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, I'm saying the next what happens if the Broncos
lose a game?

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Then what are you gonna say about you? You did something
wrong and we'll figure that out. We'll figure out what
it is. We'll figure out what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Oh, look, there's Rick Lewis on TV advertising something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
We were just talking about him. Oh my gosh, Yeah,
all right, I will.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
You're mother poking to watch the game, but you also
have to.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
You have to. I think listen. I think that's the key.
I mean, I think the thing that ties it all together.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Because when I was on the sidelines doing the microphone,
of course I could see the game too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
I was watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Wasn't watching it on screen, but I was watching it.
But the key is all of those wins. I was
listening to Rick and Dave whether or not I was
looking at the game. So I think that does tie
it all together. I think that's I think that's a
very good point, or at least as good a point
as you're you are capable of making. Yeah, sorry, Dragon,

(01:23:20):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Sorry. I want to let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I'm gonna do this in thirty seconds. And the reason
I'm not going to spend more time on it now
is I'm trying to arrange an interview about it later,
although the interview will likely be with the buyer and
not the seller, but from the Denver gaz at the Fort,
you know, the Fort restaurant, Dragon, Have you been there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
I've never been there, but I've heard good things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
It's over by Morrison, so way over on the west
side of town, and Dragon is an east side kid.
But in any case, the Fort, which has been owned
by one family since it opened, what sixty two years ago,
right before I was born in nineteen sixty three, is
being sold. And Holly Can, who's been on the show,

(01:24:01):
and I think Holly is a friend of Mandy's. I
think I think Mandy knows Holly way better than I do.
So maybe Holly will do an interview with Mandy, but
she's not going to do one with me. Has agreed
to sell the Fort to a group called Revestco Properties,
the former owner and partner of Kranky Sports and Entertainment

(01:24:23):
for the River Mile development project in Elitch Gardens. But
in any case, that stuff that this group was in
partnership with Kronky back in June, Kronky bought out the
rest of Revesco's steak and all that stuff, So Kronky
now owns all that Kronky stuff by themselves, And I
guess Revesco is probably sitting on a whole bunch of

(01:24:45):
cash and they are going to partner with a Denver
based development and restaurant firm called City Street Investors to
run the Fort restaurant and continue its legacy. And Holly
said that she's been preparing to retire and she's been
looking for a new owner, and she said, after searching

(01:25:06):
for a successor for many years, I'm delighted to be
passing the Tomahawk to this team. She says they embody
many of the same values I've been looking for in
a successor as it relates to operating the Fort's business,
caring for my Ford family of employees, and taking the
Fort to the next level. So I don't think I'm
going to get an interview with Holly who is selling it,

(01:25:26):
but I do think I will probably get an interview
with the group who's buying it, and if so, we
will have that here on Kowa, all right, coming up
next to our last twenty minutes or so together. I
have no idea what we're going to talk about, but
I promise it will be fun, even if we waste
your time. But it's for you, Tom Sawyer. Dude, So
I signed up for the ticket pre sale for a

(01:25:47):
Saturday night in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I have a thought.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
I'm not sure whether I'm not sure whether I even
want to mention this, but thinking about it, so, Russia
is doing just so in cities and one of the
their American cities except for one Mexico city. They're doing
Mexico City in what I think is probably.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
An enormous arena.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
It's it says Halasio delas Deportis, which like sports palace.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
So I you know what, dragon, can you do me
a favor? Can you? Can you look up Plasio de
las Deportis. Do you know how to spell that? P
A l A c io d E l O s.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
It's lost, not lost deportis d e p o r
t e s. And my question for you is is
this an indoor place like ball Arena or is it
an outdoor place.

Speaker 6 (01:26:42):
Like Mile High h The image shows a dome a dome,
but it does it look to you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Huge like a soccer stadium might be, or smaller like
a basketball stadium might be. Basketball ish? Can you look up?
How can you look up capacity? Can you just in
the in the whatever search in and you're using twenty thousand?
Oh okay, yeah, that's for the arena for actual concerts.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
This says twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Okay, so it's bigger than Ball Arena, but not nearly
as big as as empower Field at Mile High.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Okay, so this is a Thursday night next June. Now,
I just signed up for a pre sale and I
have no You know, you've got all these computers chasing
the tickets, even on pre sale, and a lot of
times even if you can log in on on presale,
you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
You don't have any luck. But I'm wondering should.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I try to go to the show in Mexico City.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
My wife she would go to Mexico City with me,
but she wouldn't go to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
She has no interest at all in Rush. So I
wonder if anybody listening would want to go with me.
And I'm like, not necessarily travel with me, but meet
me there and go to the concert with me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
If I could get two tickets.

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Where do you think you have the best possibility of
getting tickets? In Chicago, where it's close to Canadia where
they're from, or Mexico where they're not exactly nearby.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
This is there worldwide, don't get me wrong. Yeah, I
mean where will it sell out quicker?

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
He probably Chicago, although there's all the other shows are
also in the United States, which is closer to Canadian
than than Mexico, is right, So I don't know, And
I also don't know how the thing will work. Like
if I log in, am I going to get a
chance to am I gonna have to choose. Actually, the
pre sales are at different times. The Chicago one is

(01:28:26):
a week from today and the pre sale and the
Mexico one is a few days later.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
So if if.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
I haven't made a decision on this, but if you
think you would like to fly down to Mexico City
and meet me there and go to the Rush concert
with me, email me and let me know. Okay, email
me and let me know. Ross at koa, Denver dot com.
I have no I'm not saying for sure I'm going
to do this. I don't even know if I'd be

(01:28:55):
able to get tickets. But if I even, what I'm
saying is if I knew for sure I could get tickets,
I'm still not sure I would do this because you
got to pay for a flight to Mexico City, you
got to pay for a hotel in Mexico City. But
I do think my wife would love to go to
Mexico City. She just wouldn't want to go to the
Rush show. So I could make a little of a bit.
It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday, so I'd have to

(01:29:15):
take a couple of days of vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
To do this. But maybe maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
By the way, Dragon, I wanted to share with you.
Did you see the listener text about the my throwing
the crumpled paper into the basket. No, I missed it
the best or I missed but the best part of
the Ross paper basketball segment is seeing the look of
concentration on Ross's face.

Speaker 6 (01:29:39):
You do put a ton of effort into it, and
then so much thought and you get so anxiety. You
just worked up about it too. After that third or
fourth miss. Yeah, I know, you just get your defeat.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
I've been really good lately. I've been making a lot
of them. First shot not worse than second shot lately.
So he says, no, you've witnessed him A yeah, you
have totally go oh man, oh oh. This dude Jay
who was in row eighteen at Queen, who I saw
at the Queen concert, said he would go text no,

(01:30:11):
don't text me, email me at rossikoa Denver dot com
if you'd be interested in going to the Rush concert
in Mexico City on Thursday, June eighteenth, And if so,
maybe I'll just try to buy you know, two or
three or four tickets, depending on how many people want
to go. But you'd really I mean, if you this
is the thing. If I buy a ticket for a

(01:30:33):
concert in Mexico City and then somebody bails on me,
I'm pretty hosed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Right If I buy one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
For Canadia or for Chicago and someone bails on me,
well I'm not even gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Probably I'll I probably just.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Buy two tickets and then you know, get a friend
from Chicago to come meet me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Then I don't have that risk.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
So I I guess the deal would be if you
tell me you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Want to go and you and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
I buy a ticket for you, you have to pay me
for the ticket right away, and then if you bail out,
it's your risk, not mine.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I'm not going to take financial risks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
So you have to promise me that you're gonna that
you're going to pay me as soon as.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I get the ticket. Well, what's right away? Like ten
minutes a day?

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Right? Yes, a day?

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
And if not, then I'll find someone else. That'll probably
be how it would work. That seems reasonable though, right Sure? Okay, Ross,
I'm not bragging, but I got to see Rush's twenty
one twelve to are in Denver. You are bragging a
little bit, but you're allowed to brag that way. Nothing
wrong with that at all. I'm a little jealous, but
I have seen them twice. All right, let me do
something different. This is an obituary, and I want to

(01:31:47):
share not all of it, but some of it with you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
It's a rather long obituary, so I'm not going to
share all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
It's an obituary of a woman named Linda Murphy, and she.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Lived in Massachusetts. She has passed away.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
And what's interesting about this obituary Dragon, This obituary is
about a woman named Linda Murphy, was written by Linda Murphy.
Let me share a little of this with you. Well,
if you're reading this, it looks like I'm dead. Wow,
it actually happened. I died of FOM due to complications

(01:32:23):
of bulber als ALS's meotrophic lateral sclerosis. I'm not sure
I'm pronouncing the first part of that right, but it's
otherwise known as Louke Erig's disease.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
It is a disease. If I were to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Pick the disease I would be most scared to get,
it'd probably be that. My name is Linda Brossey Murphy,
and I was just sixty years old when I died
on Sunday evening, September twenty first, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Way too young, as the saying goes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
I quote died peacefully while surrounded by loved ones.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I was loved, comforted, and hugged until my last.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Breath by by beautiful family and a couple of my besties.
My stupid als got me to the sad point of
not being able to talk. Never speaking means never being
able to say I love you. It means not being
able to call my mister Bojangles over for a snack,
and it means not being able to order it the
Dunkin drive through. As far as eating, it totally stinks

(01:33:22):
to sit at the table while people around you are
eating juicy burgers hot off the grill, keeping piles of
Chinese food, a healthy portion of Pasta Alfredo or Chipotle,
and I just have to smile and act like I'm
enjoying my bowl of pure aid baby mush. Living had
gotten to be such an overwhelming burden every day, day

(01:33:42):
after day, I always did my very best not to
let anyone know the backstory of my daily suffering and
struggles with als. Hobby and I just plowed through each day,
trying to put our best selves out there for the public.
Eye hair and makeup done, smiles on. I'm leaving some
amazing people behind. My husband, David aka Hubby, who I

(01:34:05):
have adored unconditionally from the first moment I laid eyes
on him forty two years ago. We were together from
teenagers to grandparents. Our marriage was mostly good and crazy fun.
We both agreed I was an A wife and he
was a B plus husband for a total of anus,
which is pretty decent for forty two years together. We

(01:34:27):
became a thropple about one and a half years ago
when ho c hosey, all right, hosey hosee, my respirator,
moved into our marital bed. From then on, David woke
up next to what looked.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Like a fighter pilot with smushed hair.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
She goes on to talk about her her family, how
much she loves her family and other family members, and
so on. It's a long piece, so I'm gonna get
ahead a little bit. My favorite pastime was being with
my family and friends, which is why Fomo did me
in foo fear.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Of missing out. In case you didn't know that acronym.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
I also adored having fun anytime anywhere. No matter what
I was doing, I had fun. I was a very
happy person to the core. I also enjoyed feeding birds, gardening,
quote unquote, playing the piano when no one was home,
playing games on my phone, especially Words with friends. Overall,
I think I was a nice person except on WWF,

(01:35:25):
Sorry losers. I enjoyed drinking wine, boating, playing Rummy cup
with friends, walking nine holes at golf on a lovely day,
a half day of skiing, traveling, and dancing every chance
I could with my arms in the air. Of course,
I lived my life with two superpowers. My first, of
which everyone was jealous, was that I could drink as

(01:35:46):
much as I wanted and never seemed to get a hangover.
The real wonder is why I didn't die of liver failure.
My second superpower is that I was always genuinely happy
and absolutely loved to be with nice people. Then she
goes on to talk about some of the folks she's
leaving behind, how much she adores her in laws, and
then she says, please be kind to everyone. The telemarketer,

(01:36:10):
the grocery clerk, the duncan staff, the tailgater, your family,
your friends. Speak nicely and positively is there ever really
a reason to be negative? I don't think so. My
last donation was made on the way to the funeral home.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
They swung my.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Body through Massachusetts General Hospital so I could drop off
my brain and spinal cord for ALS research. I sincerely
ask you all, in lieu of flowers, please consider a
generous donation to Compassionate Care Als. So it's a CCALS
dot org, as they helped me and so many others

(01:36:47):
live a better life while struggling with als. So to
my earthly existence, I say, farewell. It was a blast
while it lasted. We sure did have fun. And then
she talks about like, you know, come drop in on
the celebration of life which passed already.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
She said, if you were a stinker.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
And AMENI to me or my family or friends during
my lifetime. Please do everyone a favor and stay away.
We don't want your negative energy and your drama. Only nice,
loving people are welcome. And please, please please don't waste
money on flowers. Buy a bunch of scratch tickets and
give them out to strangers along your way.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Make people happy. That's the best way you can honor
my memory.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
So that's most of this fabulous obituary of a woman
named Linda M. Murphy who passed away on September twenty first.
The obituary written by the very same Linda M.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Murphy. I just thought I would share that with you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
All right, let's do something else so we know that
Cracker Barrel was in them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
You know, has been kind of a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
A lot of people went to look up what they
could find out about the woman who's the CEO of
Cracker Barrel, and a lot of conservative folks thought not
a surprise coming from her, that she went down a
road that kind of really made it seem like she
didn't understand who her market was, who her audience was,
like a smaller, maybe only a little bit smaller version

(01:38:16):
of what bud Light did. And I was reading about this,
and I saw a story a few days ago about
how Cracker Barrel dropped the marketing firm that was behind
what the article describes as the disastrous logo refresh Right.
So they were modernizing the logo, keeping the color scheme,

(01:38:38):
but removing the old dude and the barrel and just
making a very simple cracker barrel thing, and a lot
of folks didn't dig it. I frankly didn't care very
much one way or another. It's not like I'm going
to go or not go based on the logo. But
I do think if you understand your audience, if you
understand who you are as cracker Barrel, you do understand
that your audience is a little bit older and fairly conservative.

(01:39:00):
And to give some credit to the woman who's running
this stuff, her goal, which is a legitimate goal because
Cracker Barrel sales have been going down and down and
down for years, is to try to freshen it up
a little bit, to get people who weren't only old
and only conservative to come. But still they kind of
abandoned the brand. Now this story is about Cracker Barrel
dropping the marketing firm. So I went over to the

(01:39:23):
website for the marketing firm. It's called profit p r
O p h e T, right, not pro fi T.
Yeah right, p R O.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
P h e T.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
You're welcome to put your microphone on. Mandy and I
went to their U uh huh. I went to the
Andandy's just gonna yell across the room. All right, let's
just keep doing that. That's fun. So I went to
the website of this company called Profit and they have
an about section and then they say they have a
thing about culture. And on their page they say, our

(01:39:54):
differences represent our greatest strength.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
You know where this is going. You know exactly where
this is going. Why we promise to support our.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Differences by elevating, by the way, the most overused word
by the left these days, elevating, it's so annoying, by
elevating the voices of all employees and so on this page,
like the top of the page about or just below
the top of the page about their culture. Here's who
they say they really really care about at their company. Women,

(01:40:29):
LGBT people, Latinos, blacks and Asians. White men can suck it.
And that, my friends, is the firm that they chose
to refresh the brand for cracker Barrel, which by the way,
is not the brand, not the brand for gay Hispanic women,

(01:40:52):
that is not the target market.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Hi, Mandy, you turned the mic on this. Not the
cheap seats, all right?

Speaker 8 (01:41:00):
I want to wait until the time I try to
give you, like, you know, a full show. So I
had my assistant chat GPT do a little number running
on the potential for the Rush concert. Now, if you buy,
if you do get in the presale and you get
you buy in the first go round. Yeah, Chicago's going
to be cheaper than Mexico City. But if you're looking
to buy on the aftermarket, yeah, Mexico City is going
to be cheaper than Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Do you want to go with me?

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
That would be a blast.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
And I actually know that I followed that woman on
social media, so I actually knew she was really her
and another Romanian drummer whose name I can't pronounce that
are like the most insane drummers ever.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Wow. So that I actually when I.

Speaker 8 (01:41:36):
Heard that, I didn't realize what you were talking about
until you said that she was on social media and
she was on YouTube, because that's where.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
I first saw her. Uh huh okay, so but that's
where she started career.

Speaker 8 (01:41:45):
I could see this working out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Well, is she going to bring fifty drums with her?

Speaker 8 (01:41:49):
I don't know, She'd have to see her with fifty drums,
but I mean, if she's very, very, very talented.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Here's a listener text ross.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
I'm a drummer and a huge Rush fan, always have
been went down a rabbit hole today for over an
hour watching Anika Nilis videos.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
She absolutely shreds. Well, there will never be another Neil Pert.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
I'm confident she will be a great compliment to Alex Sengetti.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Okay, so they say this.

Speaker 8 (01:42:12):
I think one of the reasons that Neil Pert was
Neil Perk is because he was this incredible drummer that
could work with fifty drums, but he never looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
It was remotely difficult.

Speaker 8 (01:42:21):
Yeah, it was so easy, dream you know, he was
just it was so casual.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
Yeah, it was. Oh god, he was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
I got I watched him play the drum and back
in the day when Rush was in the midst of
their Iron Rand phase, like with the album twenty one twelve,
which is based on an Iron Ran short novel, Neil
Purt wrote a lot of the songs. Yeah, a lot
of the lyrics were you know, a lot of detahilosophical.

Speaker 8 (01:42:43):
Though, I mean his wife and his daughter die.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
I was just uh yeah, heartbreaking. Brain cancer was brain cancer,
I think. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
So, look, the Chicago show is on a Saturday night.
Would you want to go if I can watch? Says that,
what's July eighteenth of next year? Yeah, July eighteen six, Uh,
a week from today.

Speaker 8 (01:43:07):
Okay, I should be we're planning a trip to Peru and.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
I'll have the dates. Okay, let me know, I will.
I would love to go.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
I think that is it a listener trip to Peru
or just family trip? Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
And by the way, folks, speaking of speaking of trips,
we do have some seats left on my listener trip
to Vienna, Prague and Budapest next April. If you go
to rosstrip dot com and man in Budapest, yes you are.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
I didn't even know about it. Oh the baths just
like old Roman baths or yes, they are glorious, then I.

Speaker 8 (01:43:37):
Will tacular like you must go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
And we had a guest on who was an airline
pilot who was in Prague a couple of days ago,
and he told you, he said, you got to go
to Prague. So rosstrip dot com to learn more. And
at some point, uh kind of sort of soon and
I think Mandy will be.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Talking about her now.

Speaker 8 (01:43:53):
We're going to be going down the Rhine straight from
Switzerland to Amsterdam.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
That's right? What what? Uh huh? What's your Whatconnell trip
dot com? All right, we were.

Speaker 8 (01:44:02):
Prety halfway sold and we haven't done the onsol awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
Yep, all right, rosstrip dot com. There's a few seats
left on my trip, Mandy. What you got coming up?

Speaker 8 (01:44:10):
I have all kinds of stuff coming up, not the
least of which is Colorado Chair of the GOP Britta Horn,
joining me to talk about the latest bit of nonsense
going on.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
So it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 8 (01:44:21):
And if you don't follow me on social media and
you don't see my daily cartoons that I do about
the blog, please just go look at today's Just go
look at today's ross all.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Right on klash Twitter, Yes, all right, I'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Everybody stick around for Mandy's fabulous show. I'll talk to
you tomorrow.