10-15-25 - *FULL SHOW* Benjamin Allbright Filling In For Ross

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've got a fun show for you. Hopefully we're able

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to catch up with my good friend Mark Carlosco. Mark
has worked for multiple different presidents, specifically in the Egyptian
Palestinian type stuff, and he is the Department of Defense
Civilian Protection Center for Excellence right now. Worked he's worked

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as an intelligence analyst, worked for you know, the.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Red Cross, the Center for Naval Analyses.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
He's been all over, has worked at work to Pentagon
for for quite some time. And that's where I met
him a while back, about twenty gosh what years it's
twenty two years ago, and so hoping to catch up
with him and get a chance to get his thoughts
on everything that's going on over there, as he's probably,

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if not one of, if the expert on that region
and that those conflicts over there and the latest efforts
by President Trump to to get peace over there, and
wanted to get his thoughts on all that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's worked for George W.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Bush, he was there for a while with the Obama administration,
worked for Trump, you know the first time around. UH
stayed through Biden back with with Donald Trump now. So
he's worked through through multiple different presidencies there and I
really respect his his opinion on that particular region and

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everything that's going on in that particular region. I don't
think there's anybody else with more expertise uh than him.
We've got. I want to get into uh some scary
stuff on AI. I don't mean to scare you guys
with AI every time I'm on here, but we we
hit a milestone over the course of these past three months,
and I want to get into a little bit of that.

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Uh five six six nine zero is the text line.
I don't want to know what's going on with you
guys out there. Last time we talked, I believe was
right in the week of the Charlie Kirk shooting and
the shooting here at Evergreen, we had UH.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I got a chance to go out.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
There and do a fundraiser for the Evergreen community with
with my good buddy Rick Lewis from from the Fox.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
They put on that concert.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We raised a bunch of money, lucky to take a
Zach Allen autograph jersey out there, and I had a
lot of fun that night. A lot of a lot
of good came out of that with the community there
in Evergreen.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So that was UH that I.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Want to hear what you guys want to talk about
as well. I will get into some of these other
things here just a few during the news break, you
guys heard that DiAngelo passed away.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Uh well, it.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
May not seem like it. That was actually sort of
a sort of a thing for me. I and the
first song I ever, I ever carryokeed was was a
di' angelo song. I used to love that back in
the back the mid to late nineties, early two thousands.
That the neo soul sound, that R and B sound,
that was kind of my thing back then. I didn't

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really start to get more into rock and roll until
the mid I think mid two thousands. You know, I
came up on seventies motown, you know that kind of stuff,
and so I didn't really get more My musical palette
didn't really extend outwards until.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Until probably the mid two thousands.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But I remember, gosh, I wore out that first D'Angelo
album probably twice. He had a cover of Smokey Robinson
on there cruising There were there's a couple of song
titles I can't say on the air because the profane,
but he had the first song I karaoke in public
ever was Brown sugar by the by di'angelo.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And that used to used to clean up with the
karaoke bar back in the day.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So and no, I'm not gonna be for the text line,
I'm not gonna be karaokeing that on the air today.
Nice try though my voice has changed since then.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's the excuse, will use. Chaddon looks at me disapprovingly.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
But I want to know from you guys artists that
uh maybe not have already passed away, but when they
do pass away, that's gonna be the one that it
messes with you a little bit. I know what Prince
died that would mess with me a little bit. I'll
try to like I you know, because I was talking
yesterday with somebody about that and they're like, yeah, when

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Mick Jagger Paul McCartney goes like that, you know those
are gonna be the ones that mess with me a
little bit. But I want to hear from you guys,
what what musical artists to mess with you guys a
little bit when they when they ultimately pass five six
six nine zero is the text line. I don't want
to get into this. Let's AI thing a little bit.

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AI content generation has surpassed human content generation in quantity,
meaning we are now in the mind minority. Human beings
are now the minority in generating content. And while this
may not be something that affects you all, I think
it's something that sticks with me because of the industry
that I'm in, the business that I'm in, and that

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is we're being replaced by the computers. And I get it.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, there's somebody listening in the car. I know, boo,
who who cares if that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't care in that regard, Like, if we could
find things that do computers that do things more efficiently,
so be it. And if you're a human being and
you want to stay relevant, you got to be better
at your job, right. I have sort of a sort
of a pragmatic outlook on that, I.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Guess, but.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I don't think that most AI content is good. I've
seen some humorous things, but they're usually human generator or
at least have a humor prop behind it. I shared
one with Nick ferguson the other day which he posted,
and it was a video purporting to be Tupac Shakur
on Mister Rogers' show, and then mister Rogers basically the

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opening lines to the ultimate disc track of all Time,
Hit Them Up. That was completely AI generated, but it
looked real, and so that kind of stuff, like you know,
I mean, I find humor in that kind of thing.
But the things that bother me are the way that
AI has has taken over content generation and sort of
article writing or social media posts, because we see these

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these this AI slop, Like Facebook is practically dead at
this point, right You get on Facebook and you see
these posts and it's somebody donated ob scene amount of
money to something and it never happened, and there's a
whole article about it or something, and a lot of
these are geared towards right now because they know you'll
share it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That geared to right wing audiences.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
We've seen these fake stories about Sean Payton and the Penners,
a fake story about Steve Atword getting it at coaching.
But they because a lot of them are sort of
feel good stories about different donations that are made. They
they and this is they had this guy who does
these from India come out and so he's like, yeah,

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I have more luck dropping these into conservative groups because
they'll share them more prevalently. And that's not to bash anybody.
I'm not trying to do that. I'm just saying they're
targeting you know, they are targeting you. And so you know,
as I look at these things and I see these
articles that are out there, it doesn't benefit us in

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any way.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
This isn't positive.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I would say that I wouldn't have a problem
with a computer replacing me if they were doing it better,
but they're not. And what we're getting is content saturation
that isn't even real in a lot of these things.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Like I said, Facebook is not even for me.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Facebook is dad, It's not even usable anymore because every
time you open it, you see some new fake story
on there, and it erodes the public confidence in anything.
I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
No matter what's the political aisle you're on right now.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
You see certain things and your first thought is this
is fake news, and not necessarily because it's fake news
because you disagree with it. And then you go into
investigate and find out whether it's fake or not. A
lot of times it is, or a lot of times
it's maybe not fake, but certainly stretched to the limits
of credulity. And so you know, as I look at

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this and I look at all these AI country companies
because we're in the AI boom. Now this is where
the money is going. Data centers and AI, this is
where the money's going right now. This is thenew dot
com bubble. We got.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
A whole lot of.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
M's, Chat, GPT, Claude Gemini, all of them looking to
grow their traffic across channels like Google Search and these
social companies like Facebook advertising. And it is incredibly cost
effective for companies to do this. You could spend hundreds

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of dollars for a human being to write content, or
you could just have an AI generated for free. Right
It's like the the the automated burger assembly line stuff,
you know what everybody was complaining about machines. And I
was a I'm like, look, they can do it for
free and keep the cost down at the register for
the consumer. Yeah, we lose some low end jobs, but

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we were humans were valuable. We sort of adjust there. Well,
they came for the burger people and I said nothing.
They came for the radio host and get it. I
get it's I don't ways say it's hypocritical, because I
have not been hypocritical on this.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I'm fine with it.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now. My problem is is that this stuff is nonsense.
The stuff I see out there is nonsense. It's not real.
And we've gotten to the point where AI generated content
has now surpassed human content. Chat GPT launched in November
of twenty twenty two, and at that point in time,

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AI generated content was somewhere between account for somewhere between
zero and eight percent of the entirety of the Internet.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
As of this year.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
We had a brief bubble where it passed human content
generation at the beginning of the year, and then human
content generation sort of went back up.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
We have passed the point now though.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Where we've hit the second the second point where AI
generated content has passed the quantity of human generated content
on the Internet. Well, I had generated articles grew dramatically
after chat JPT lost. We didn't see that trend continuing
at the way that it has. The proportion of AI
generated articles has remained relatively stable over the last year,

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but it's at that point where it has inched over.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
And stayed maintained.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
We haven't had like the drop and you know it's
the hitting the glass ceiling and the glass floor.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
His stayed over that for the last three months.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'll get into why that could be dangerous here when
we come back, lead singer Richard Ashcroft of The Verve,
And actually they got sued by the Stones for this
song because part of it, they said was sample they
actually lost and then they wound up. The band broke
up sortly. That's why he didn't hear from the Verve.
After that they broke up, Richard Ashcroft, the lead singer,
went solo. He was good friends with the brothers from Oasis.

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As a matter of fact, the song cast No Shadow
is literally about Richard Ashcroft, who was very, very thin
and they said he was so skinny that he didn't
cast a shadow. And so that's that song is about
the lead singer of The Verve, Richard Ashcross. A little
bit of music trivia for you there five six six
nine zero, asking you guys, what musical artist when they
went or when they go if they're still living, is

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really going to affect you. Add several responses to that.
The three h three says, I love George Strait's music.
He'll be very sad when he passes. It's a good one.
Let's see what else we got here. Sorry, my screen refreshed.
See Ryan Carpenter or excuse me, Karen Carpenter really hit me.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Beautiful voice, wonderful music, three of that.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I wish Chris LaDue was still alive.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Uh, Steve Goodman, I don't remember Steve Goodman.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Should I remember Steve Goodman? Look at it, Channon Scott here,
that's one I don't remember off the top of my head. Okay,
Uh see Eddy van Haler. Whitney Houston. Yeah, Whitney Houston.
That might be the all time rendition for the anthem.
Is there anybody that did it better than Whitney Houston.

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There's been some good ones over the years. Whoever it
was that did that saxophone one a couple of years ago,
you know what I'm talking about doing the anthem before
football games? Somebody did a saxophone that was just chef's kiss.
I mean it was just just beautiful. But I think
Whitney's probably the old time standard in terms of the
greatest national anthem before a sporting event. But I know,

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forces don't rin the nineteen sixty six. Sob Bobby Caldwell
when he passes a pretty big shock.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah that was Bobby Cole was a good one. He's
the guy that did what you want Do for Love.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
He was the writer behind the Next Time I Fall
In Love that Peter Sataradav Grant took to number one.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's a good one, mind.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
So no, my college aged daughter uses an AI tool
to create a synopsis of a reading assignments and present
it as conversational podcast with two voices. Surprisingly realistic. Yeah,
that's that's the thing. And again I'm not against AI
content generation. My problem with it is is that none
of it's original. Anything you generate off AI is drawing

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from somewhere, right, And so we start to get into
copyright law with a lot of this stuff. And it
takes smarter people than me to parse that. But you
start to get into the copyright law with with some
of that stuff. And so one of the big dangers
of AI generation is that you need to remember that
nothing that you're you're generating there is original.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Nothing it's drawing from something.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It has to have a it has to have a
prompt in in order to produce out. Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
And so that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
And if you are a business, and by the way,
a recent survey shows that Americans trust businesses more than
government now almost two to one. If you're a business,
you could do significant brand damage by using AI content
generation and having the content itself being incorrect.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
And that's why you need to.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Vet anything that you do, like even you know, you
ask chat, GPT and some of those things are very
helpful that it's scary the capabilities that they have, but
not every time are the answers that it's giving you correct.
They're drawing from something, and so whatever that that AI
or search engine or whatever views as authoritative in what
it puts in and what it brings into itself is

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what it's going to put out.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, I see what you did there, Chamon.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so that's that's that's one of the dangers that
you have with this kind of stuff. Is it what
you get the content that you get on that Yeah,
it's content, but it's mostly boring. It lacks the rhetorical
flourishes that human beings are capable of at this point.
Now it's not to say that they won't get there,
but it does, and a lot of times it's silly

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or wrong because it doesn't. You know, one of the
things that AI still struggles with is sarcasm. And so
if you write an article that is sarcastic and it
views it as authoritative. It can't create a problem in
what it puts out. Five six sixty nine zero is
the text line. We're going to get into some of

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the Israel Hamas stuff here in a little bit of
hoping that my good buddy Mark our Alosco is able
to he's out there.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Like I said, boots on the ground.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
We're not one hundred percent he's gonna be able to
join me, but he said he would do his his
absolute best, and I think you guys would probably love
to hear from guys.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Great guy.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
We'll talk a little bit about the this group chat
that got leaked and how I love the fact that
young Republicans are taking responsibility right off the bat and
calling for resignations across the board of the people who
were saying the disgusting stuff. That's the thing we don't
see in politics anymore. I love the fact that people
are taking accountability. I love it when people take accountability
and responsibility and you're actually seeing that in this particular situation.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
We'll get into that here in just a little bit.
Seven two.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think the AI needs to be highlighted in any
sort of commercial that see. That's where I'm at. I
think that there needs to be a tag on whether
or not it's AI or human generated any content. I
think you should. I think right now we should have
that until we get somewhere, until we get to the
place where we figured out exactly how we're going to
deal with all this stuff. Right now, I think it
just should have to be clearly labeled. I will clearly

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labeled that this show is human generated, and we'll be
back after the break. That band got their name because
Butch Vig, who was a producer for Nirvana amongst other
bands or whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
He would just dump all his ideas.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
He would record stuff, and then he would just dump
it into a garbage file on his computer, and then
that's where the band named for.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
They got Shirley Manson to do the vocals later.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So anyway, there's a more of music trivia for you.
I get chock full of that apparently today five six
six nine. Here I want to hear about musicians that
affected you when they died or will affect you when
they passed away. We've got a lot of text in
on that. I'll I'll get to some of those here
in a little bit. The seven to two to ozho.
Then what's your take? On the HEG Seth speech to

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the General's Admirals, master Chiefs and Commands Ard Major. It's
not so much the delivery of it, but the real
issues he brought up on pt following in enforcing standards,
giving the nco is a power back to enforce those
standards without fear of harming their careers. Dealt with that
in my ten years, and have a brother that's been
of a tag commander about to take a brigade command,
and he a lot of his counterparts have and are
still dealing with the issues he Seth talked about, and

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they felt like it was much needed. If the shoe
fits wear its speech, I have multiple thoughts on that speech.
I thought the idea, first of all, the idea of
gathering all the generals in one place, that announcing it
was stupid, And then we don't need to be doing that.
I could have been done on Zoom. But as far
as the content and holding people to the standards, that's
that's been something I've been talking about for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I mean, I was in the army for fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I got in April of ninety eight, I got out
April of I got other reserves April of twenty thirteen,
And yeah, the standards slipped over the time that I
was that I was in, I would say that nobody,
in my experience, neither political party has a monopoly on

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being right about the military. I think they're that either
side of the aisle tends to have some things they're
right about and some things they're not.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know, I would say that.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And I don't speak for all military people, because nobody does.
We're the military is one of the It's fascinating because
if you've never served, the military is one of the
more diverse of thought organizations out there. You'll have You'll
have people that are far on the left, people that
far the right, a fiercely libertarian streak throughout the military,

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and no one person speaks for anybody else.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
So what I'll do is I'll speak for myself here
and go from there.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
And I would say that, in my opinion, over the
course of the fifteen years I was in, I did
feel like the standard slipped a little bit, you know.
I I of course, I'm twelve years removed from.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That now.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I'm twelve years removed from the army now, so you know,
I can't speak to the last decade. I never cared
about women in uniformer in combat roles. When I was deployed,
we didn't didn't care. You could either do the job
or you couldn't. You know at the end of the day,
like if I'm wounded, can you carry me off the

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off the field or not. I served with straight people,
gay people, women, not have any uh any trans people
when I was when I served.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
That doesn't mean that there weren't in the army.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I can't remember at that point in time, but I
never served with any, so I couldn't tell you any
any personal anecdotes or experiences on that. My my thing was,
it's like the army needs to be in the military
and general I say that, I said the army, I
mean all service branches. It needs to have firm standards,
strict standards, and you adhere to those. We had. I
had a sergeant major early in my career who had

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a like like a plaque in his office that says,
we set the standard here, and we had tried to
ensure that soldiers meet it, and if they're unable, we
thank them kindly for trying and send them on their way.
And I think that the civilian world there's there's there's
a bigger grace for people failing to meet the standard
of the civilian world.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And that's fine because.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
There aren't certain repercussions if those standards aren't met. So
what I will say is is for the content of
Pete Hegsith's UH and Donald Trump's speeches, there were there
were part when they stuck to when when they stuck
to the those parts, those portions of it, the standards portions.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
When they stuck to those parts of.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It, I was like, yes, yes, you're you're saying the
thing that that I think most most certain in my
experience would agree with. It's when they got off into
these political asides or uh tried to try to beg
for applause or do jokes or do the we're the
Department of War, which you know, almost everybody I know
that's ever served like this. This Department of War thing

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is a joke, Like, what are we doing? It's not
even legally binding, it's not even binding. It's just a
nickname that they gave on EO that'll go away when
when they leave.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Because is a joke. What are we doing with this
kind of stuff? Stick to the mission.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so I think the content of specifically what Pete
Hegseth was saying, when it was mission oriented content in
that speech, I think most of them agreed with it.
Most of the people I know agreed with those kinds
of things. Most of the people I know when you're
talking about weight standards and things like that, agreed with that.
We need to we need to have a physically fit
fighting for us, and we need to let uh quit

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letting the standards on physical fitness, marksmanship, things like that slip.
We need to quit letting those standards slip. So I
think that there's an agreement with that. I think where
the eye rolls came in and where the disagreement came
from is using that pulpit. Because people in the military,
in my experience, are very cognizant of not letting the

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politics bleed into what needs to be a politically neutral organization.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And so that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
You're going to get a lot of pushback on that
from and specifically from the assembled upper leadership, the admirals,
the generals, But overall, you know, I mean, these days
everything's so politicized. On the one hand, you see Onaan
or Fox, you see them just lauding superlatives on it,

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on the speeches, and then on the other you see
on MSNBC you see people just just dragging you know,
every part of it. And I'm like, the reality is
somewhere in the middle. The content portions of it are valid,
the fact that the standard the slips are valid. And
then on the other hand, uh, it's it's also a
valid complaint about all the shoehorning, all the political stuff.
I want a Democrat stop. You don't need to put

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that in there. Save that for the stump speeches. You
don't you don't need to save that for the You
don't need to bring that in for the for the generals.
So uh, hopefully that answers your question from the seven too. O.
I I do believe that the standards have slipped, and
uh that people need to that that's something that does
need to be addressed and there needs to be one
standard across the board. But that said, I will say, uh,
I never cared. The people I served with never cared.

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I went to combat multiple times. We never cared if
you were gay or straight, never cared if you were
a woman. Just could you do your job? And if
you could do your job, so be it. If you
couldn't do your job you were, you know, you'd run
into problems. Uh. So you know that's that's my take
on them. Five, six, six, nine zeros A text line.
That's what all Bright filling in for Rosky Men's gas.

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You guys about musicians that hit home when they passed
or will hit home when they passed, had a lot
of these. Chris Cornell, Jimmy Buffett, Robert Plant. Obviously you're uh,
when Eric Clapton dies, it will devastate me. As from
the seven to zero three or three.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, Chris Stapleton on the National Anthem.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, that was one I would put up there with Whitney,
not not above Whitney, but in that top five. Uh.
His anthem was really well done, really well done. Oh
three or three, says Jimmy Hendrix. I saw his last
show at Mile High. I'm the color of me jealous here.
That's one thing I mean. Obviously Jimmy passed well before
I was around. That was one show I always if

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I had a wish a time machine something like that,
you got to go back and watch one concert. Watching
Jimmy play live would have been in my top five. Absolutely,
just for the experience. A couple of Toby Keith here
DMX got me. Wow, I didn't think this audience Sometimes

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I underestimate you guys.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, I you know, that's that's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I didn't think this audience here on KOA would have
too many DMX responses Shannon with the easy well done, sir,
well done, Yeah, easy, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Eric Carman, nine of it.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh, when John Prine died from COVID, I broke down
one of the best folk artists ever. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's a good one. Glenn Frye, I'm.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Trying to think of like cause the D'Angel would messed
with me a little bit, just because, I mean there's
some nostalgia to it. Not that he was the widespread
artist or the biggest impact on my life or anything
like that. It was just, you know, it's like one
of the first songs I karaoke in public.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It was a song.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
You know, there were a couple of songs I used
to used to sort of sing back in the day
five six six nine Zeros text line. Matt Narvada says, Hi, Ben,
I'm going in the opposite musical direction of AI. I
play accordion all mechanical. Well done, man, well done. Oh

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my goodness, this night's seven. Oh being glad to have
you back.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
You do a great job.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Fill it in. I'm waiting for AI to have a
really large impact in terms of business services such as
checking into hotel facial recognition, the clerk will know who
I am or room my stated last time preferences make
life flow faster. Yeah, that's okay, So that's a big thing.
AI Vegas is investing heavily in that to try to
trim costs but also optimize what they do. You know
how Vegas is about trying to optimize everything they can,

(26:24):
especially for the whales out there that are betting big.
This is something they've been used. They've been using AI
on you know, the cards you swipe before you go
bet and all that. They've been using those kinds of
things to detect betting patterns and things like that to
optimize for their consumers for a while.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
I think the big thing with Vegas right now, which
is basically empty at this point.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't know if you've been out there lately it's
it's dead, is that they've got to find a way
to go back to it. Being a cost effective enterprise
to come on out there. Used to be the spif
you you know, free drinks. Everything was. Now they do.
They nicol and dyed you for everything. That's what's driven
the crowds away. Sever be fascinating to see if they
figure they figured that out. Five six, six, nine zeros

(27:05):
of text. I don't want to get into. Uh, Politico
got leaked these text messages, and I'll catch you up
on that.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
That's not really the part I want to get into.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
The part I want to get into is he's today
the Young Republican National Federation calling for immediate resignations.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Taking accountability and responsibility.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
For something in a political organization almost never happens these days.
Some leaked messages got leaked out, some telegram chats things
like that got leaked out. Somehow Politico got a hold
of them. And a lot of these messages are disgusting.
They are talking about I love Hitler, some racist stuff

(27:42):
in here, talking about joking about gas chambers, slavery and rape.
And they even there's a text message in here that
says that if this chat ever gets leaked or cooked,
which so they were very cognizant of what it was
that they were saying, referred to black people as monkeys
and the watermelon people mused about their political opponents, and

(28:04):
gas chambers talked about raping their enemies and driving them
to suicide, lauding people who believed and support slavery. William Hendrix,
who was part of the Kansas Young Republican's vice chair,
was using the variations on the N word more than
a dozen times. Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the
New York State Republicans, referred to rape.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
As epic, and Peter Jenta, who at the time was the.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Chair of the same organization, wrote in a message that
everyone that votes know is going to the gas chamber,
referring to an upcoming vote whether he should become chair
of the Young Republican National Federation. And you guys can
read up on that. I don't want to get it
that I don't want to bash one side of the aisle.
The thing I want to will applaud is today the
Young Republican National Federation called for immediate resignations following the

(28:50):
political report on the league group chat that featured racist
and anti Semitic and violent discussions, saying, quote, we are
appalled by the violent excuse of language. Such behavior is
disgrateful on becoming of any Republican and stands in direct
opposition to the values our movement represents.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
They posted that to Instagram yesterday morning, followed by.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Those involved must immediately resign from all positions within their
state and local Young Republican organizations must hold ourselves to
the highest standards of integrity, respect, and professionalism. And man,
I you know, that's one of those things we just
don't see these days, with everybody so split, so divided,
slinging mud all that kind of stuff. You don't see

(29:33):
an accountability for your own anymore. And so that's the
thing I wanted to applaud. You can read up on that.
I think the if you want to read up on
their response, I think it's up on the Hill dot com.
You just don't see people taking accountability and responsibility, not
just in politics, but in their personal lives. Themore it's

(29:55):
it's become a lost I don't want to say art,
but it's just be I'm a lost thing. Accountability and responsibility,
personal accounability, responsibility are so important, so important and speak
to integrity, and it's become such a lost thing. And
so anytime I see that. Anytime I see people actually

(30:18):
taking accountability and responsibility, I god, I want to stop
and take a moment to applaud it, because we just don't.
Everybody has an excuse, everybody has a reason, and those
two words mean the same thing. Well this is okay,

(30:39):
because this, well we don't need to do because that
or my favorite the what about is I'm where you
turn around and you know, somebody points out something that
you did or said, and you immediately point the finger
to something someone else said or did that you don't
agree with as a distraction technique, and I hate it.
I hate that we just don't. We don't take it

(31:00):
out ability and responsibility like we used to. And I
love the fact that they did here. So I just
I wanted to take a moment and applaud for as
vile as those chats were, and I hope specifically those
three I read through it. Some of that stuff's, you know,
just off colored, and I mean, if you know me,
I think anybody who knows me knows that I've been
known to make off color jokes before I've been known to, uh,

(31:26):
you know. One of my favorite comedians is Anthony Jesslnick
that's sort of that dark comedy. Shannon knows what I'm
talking about. I love good comedy. I love things that
make you laugh, but this was not that, and so
as far as vile and reprehensible as what the people
in those chats said, I'm glad that there are national organizations,

(31:49):
you know, Republican National Federation that are taking accountability for
that and trying to weed out those kinds of people.
And it speaks to a lotlarger, a larger thing where
if you're you know, if you're in those kind of
group chats, get out. If you've got aspirations of doing
something with your life, don't let some other idiot in

(32:13):
a group chat you're in take over and associate you
with those kinds of things. Get out, get out of
those things, condemn them, take accountability, take responsibility, show integrity.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
It'll go a long way.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And I think that's I think that's going to be
impactful for voters going forward seeing an organization.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Be able to do that. Five six six nine zero
is the text line Sept.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
One nine. Another heg Seth related question, what are your
thoughts on the Pentagon's new access rules for media organizations?
I hate them. I hate this. It's a violation of
it's a violation of the First Amendment. You'll notice that
it Almost every news organization out there is not adhering
to these things. For those of you that don't know,

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it basically is as a memorative for the Pentagon saying
that any information collected has to be run through them
before it can be has to be disseminated by them
and approved by them, otherwise it can't be published.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Journalism is publishing that which someone else does not want published.
Everything else is public relations. And I say that knowing
full well what I do. You know, I work for
the station as the Broncos Insider, and there are times
where they don't want things out there. It means you're

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working in public relations. If you're not putting that stuff
out there, you're not working in journalism. So the only
organization to my knowledge that has signed on an agree
to this as the one American network. Everyone else News Max, Fox,
MSNBCCN and all these other absolutely against it. And I'm
one hundred percent against it. I get it, I get
the idea, but that's on that's on the Pentagon. Operational

(34:02):
security is on the individual operational security is on the Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's not on the journalists. If they happen to.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Get news, they happen to have whistleblowers or leakers come
to them, it's not their responsibility. It's your responsibility to
be doing the right thing and maintain operational security. So
I I vehemently disagree with the Pentagon on that.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
That's one where we are.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
We're at very much at odds on that when I
understand the thought process behind it, but that's just not
how we are as as a country. And so I
I that's one that hopefully to answer your question, I'm
on the other side of I I I I get
frustrated when I can understand the intent but it falls

(34:51):
into into direct violation of the Constitution of the Bill
of Rights.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
And that's and this does I mean it just does.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I've always yes, sort of fancied myself.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I don't want to say a strict constitutionalist, but a
constitutionalist for sure. I do believe it's a living document.
I do believe we need to adjust it to the times. However,
the founding fathers were brilliant in the framework that they
put up and allowed for that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
That's part of the brilliance of what we are, at
the root of what we are.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
So, you know, this is one of those things I
don't like and part of a lot of my bones
to pick with the current administration as well as the
administration before it, but specifically the current administration. It has
been constitutionally loose with the way that they do things,
and I don't like that. I understand that it's inconvenient

(35:49):
and bureaucratic at times. I understand that, you know, it
makes us inefficient, but that's a part of it. That's
the price we pay for what it is that we have.
Seven to two. Journalism is going after facts and truth,
not putting something else, putting something else just because somebody
doesn't want it. That makes no sense at all. No,

(36:12):
there is an assumption that that what you're doing is truth.
Like that's the that's the u understood part. That's the assumption.
Journalism is printing that which someone else does not want printed,
meaning that that thing has to be truthful and factual.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
That everything else is public relations.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
And I have a big you know, we can get
into this in the next segment. I have a big problem.
The state of journalism today is largely defined by access journalism,
which is a huge problem. We get into that on
the other side, if you guys want to five six
six nine zeros. The text line love to hear you
guys' thoughts on this. We got to hit a break.
We'll be back. Appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
Five six six nine zeros. The text line Dragon Redbeard

(36:52):
back in there, sir, Yes, sir, producing now as Shannon Scott.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Had to go be busy doing doing some other things
whatever he does.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah. One of the things I asked in the first
hour was musicians that their deaths, and we were talking
about the DiAngelo passing away, the Neil Soul singer, and
so I had asked, you know what, what musicians or
singers affected you the most when they passed or will
affect you the most when they passed. Is there anybody

(37:21):
that jumps out at you?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
First thing comes to my mind is the most recent
would be Ozzy? Well yeah, but is that recent recency bias?

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Of course.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
But it really hurt though, watching that last performance because
I wish I hadn't because it kind of you know,
he's already dead on stage. I think I would have
much rather just woken up one day saying Ozzie died
in his sleep, or Ozzie dies, Like, okay, I get
that he's you know, old and ancient and.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Done remembering the better performances or whatever exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
But one of the other shocking ones that got to
me was Tom Petty.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Tom Petty was just kind of like out of the
blue because he's, you know, relatively healthy guy. In accidental
drug or drug overdose when he had like some hip surgeries,
there's a hip problems or something, You're like, well, damn,
that kind of sucks. But I think the one that
affected me the most because I grew up with him.
He became a weirdo and everybody thought of him, you know,

(38:19):
Michael Jackson, yeah, with the whole you know, Mcaulay Culkin,
the whole kids thing. But as a kid, I listened
to him and I loved him, and I was like,
this is fantastic stuff. I really enjoy his music. So
when he died and like.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh, that's you know, he's mortal. That's not cool, man.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I know he's a weird dude, but I really enjoyed
his stuff as a kid, So I grew up with him,
so that I think that's the one that affected me
the most.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
That was was having a discussion I think Nick Ferguson
and I were talking about it the other day about
musicians that became weirdos or their things, you know, their
private lives came out, and then we were you know,
you can't listen to him at public or whatever, and
I'm like, you know, you hear those songs come on
and so like for r Kelly came on one of
my playlists the other day and I was like, I
cannot listen to this song without headphones.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
In the same thing I can't watch Bill Cosby in public.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Right, And so that was one of those that was
one of those things, right. Yeah, Michael Jackson Prince I
talked about that one. That one sort of effected me
to accidental overdose. It made sort of an interesting point
there with the Ozzy thing and seeing that last performance.
I think that's why the Johnny Cash nine inch Nails
cover was so jarring, you know, right there at the
end h with with hert or whatever. Trent Resnor was,

(39:33):
you know, did an interview not too long ago or
he was talking about how that song is not even
his anymore. You know, he wrote this song, he performed
the song for years. Johnny Cash covered it, and Cash
didn't even really want to cover it. The label was
the one that kind of made him do it. But
you know, Resiner's like, yeah, that song is like the
way he reinterpreted that song, it's no longer my song.
You know, it gives you goosebumps when you listen to it,

(39:54):
and that's I think that's the nature of genius, you know,
as far as that kind of stuff goes. But yeah,
Johnny Cash was one. We had a few.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
There's some interesting ones out here.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Mac Miller, which you know, I I don't know that
a lot of the audience who's listening right now is
going to know who that is, but that that's one
that I think for the younger crowds certainly, uh certainly
affected them seven too. Mac Miller for me, one of
maybe two times I've cried for someone I never personally met.
We named our dog after him. I hope he's honored
and not offended. Lauris were reared and from the Cranberry's.

(40:22):
I didn't know she had passed. That was one that
I was reading during the break. I was like, I
didn't know, I didn't know she had passed. That's sorry.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I'm just reading through the text message here and you
may have gotten to this one or not, but this
is this is kind of funny to me. I cried
when Keith Richards died. Yeah, that's that's that's that's a
hilarious joke.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
That's funny. Yeah, that's well well done. I I appreciate, Uh,
I do appreciate those. We had a lot of a
lot of thoughts coming in on what I talked about
with the young Republicans, Adam Yacha, the Beastie Boys. That's
a good one. Yeah, uh Stein Ray Vaughan too, those
are those good coming in on what we talked about
with that. Uh three or three? Then agree with you

(40:58):
completely on the report looks condemning that. BS also agree
with getting DEI out of the military and other organizations
that need high standards. I would love it if Trumpet
as people would clearly state this is not carte blanche
to be a well I'm a substitute word here, jerk
to minorities and legal immigrants. Yeah, here's the thing. It's
like I agree with the idea that there was like

(41:19):
let's let's let's look at DEI for a minute. Here
I don't like the idea of non merit based promotion period.
I don't like the idea or the concept of it, right,
I sort of get the idea behind what that big
push was because there wasn't a diversity of thought. Let's
let's take skin color out of it for a minute.
Diversity of thought. Diversity doesn't necessarily mean skin color, right.

(41:44):
Diversity just means it means different, right, And so I
sort of get the idea behind that, in the sense
that you want a diversity of thought and things so
you don't overlook things. One of the best piece of
advice my father ever gave me, and I'm not sure
where you ripped it off from because it goes a
jerk and you know, believe him, but one of the
best advices, piece of advice you ever gave me to
surround yourself with smart people to disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
They'll challenge you.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
And I'm sure he ripped that off from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
But so the idea is, or the initial idea behind,
like the DEI thing wasn't where wasn't tokenism? Wasn't we're
putting people of color in here? To have The idea
was to have differing perspectives so that you could better
attack different issues. You wanted to hire people who come
from affluent backgrounds, but also poor backgrounds. You wanted to

(42:35):
hire people that come that that had disadvantages growing up,
and it so that you had a a diversity of
thought in the room and we're able to tackle issues
with that. Somewhere along the way it became about tokenism
and we're going to have one we needed one woman
in Native American and African and all this kind of stuff.
And and somewhere along the way that that that whole
idea became some some sort of tokenism, And like I

(42:58):
struggle with because of how I came up the idea
of non merit based advancement employment those kinds of things.
I understand that people have been disadvantaged. I don't understand
how to make that fair for everybody. I don't think
life is fair. I don't think you can make it fair.
I think you can enforce fairness. I think there's a
difference between equality and equity. I think there's a difference

(43:21):
between fairness and opportunity. And I think trying to create
fair opportunity is better than trying.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
To create.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
A system that is just where you swing the pendulum
back and you sort of shoehorn it to be equal
across the board.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Does that that's sort of makes it.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I'm worry that I'm not conveying this clearly, but in
the army or in the military in general, and in
my experience in the army, I don't think that you
can have.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
I don't think that DEI works there.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I think you do want a diversity of thought in
the room because as warfighters, you want to make sure
that you have every outcome accounted for. And if you
have a whole bunch of people that all come from
the same background, all thinking the same thing.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
You're going to overlook things.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
How to how to find that, how to assimilate that,
how to assemble that. I don't have the answer for that.
That's for smarter people than myself. But conceptually I think
that you that you definitely want something like that, but
you have to find a meritocracy based way to come
to that, to arrive at that, and so that that's

(44:33):
when they talk about eliminating that from the military, elimiting DEI.
I think the texture is sort of framing that in
the way that I would want that framed we want.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
A meritocracy based system.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
And if we're going to remote roll back some of
these initiatives, okay, but at the same time, we need
to very clearly delineate that this is not an excuse
to be a jerk to minorities. This is not an
or punitive to minorities or any of that kind of stuff.
We just want to create a system, a better system,
and that needs to be the marketing on that too. Okay,

(45:06):
we're going to roll this back, but at the same time,
we're going to put this in and this is how
we're going to arrive at these conclusions.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
We want a conclusion that has.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
A diversity of thought in the room, but we want
a system that works to get everybody in there. It
doesn't just create token opportunities just because you're something, because
then that puts someone else in a disadvantage on the
other side of it. It's not really fair. It's just
reverse fairness, you know what I mean. Like I understand,
and again this is for smarter people than myself. I

(45:34):
understand the thought process behind it, but I also think
that we need to we need to do a better
job of figuring out where we want to arrive and
create good processes to get there.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
We'll be back ros Komitski show.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, it's one of those. That's why I think that
song was so jarring for people that hadn't seen Johnny
publicly for so long, and then that was that cover
was ubiquitous and you know everywhere after. Then he died
shortly thereafter, and so I think that was one of
those ones that was so jarring. I have six six
nine zero asking for musicians or musical artists that, uh,

(46:11):
it was jarring when when they passed for you or
touched you personally or will touch you personally when they
passed and you said, said Ozzie, I was struggling to think,
like there are some that when they passed, it's like, well,
that's gonna make me feel old for sure, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
I you know, Prince, that affected me a little bit.
I don't know nobody said Hendrix yet that I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
There was, Yeah, there was somebody said hits.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
In fact, there was somebody who texting and they saw
the last Hendrick show at Mile High and I'm like,
color meat jealous. A lot of texts coming in on
a lot of this stuff that we just talked about
three h three. When I first got the sand Hill
for basic, but basic training, the biggest thing that was
stressed was that it didn't matter where we came from.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
The skin color didn't religion didn't matter. We were all green.
He was in the same timeline I was in the service.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, that was sort of I mean, like if you
grew up on the football field or if you grew
up in the military. It's tough to wrap your head
around some of this stuff sometimes because those two things
are probably the largest meritocracy based types of things. And
then to put that in perspective, this is why, this

(47:27):
is why it's tough for some of us to wrap
our head around the d I think, and I understand.
I understand where you're coming from, because there are people
that are disadvantaged that have a much much tougher path
to be able to get to things that they are
qualified for because of the disadvantage upbringing that they've had,
whether that's economically, whether that's you know, be a skink,
whatever that may be.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
I'm not trying to dispute that. I'm just saying it's
tough for me to wrap my head around. Think about
it like, this is if you grew up on the
football field at all, and we had to have if
you were in the football field, and all of a
sudden we were required to have one white guy wide
receiver on every play. That's stupid, right, Like, that's stupid,

(48:14):
and so or one white guy corner, you know, corner
defender on every play. I don't see why we've got
one here in Denvers. Why it's funnier, you know, Fridley Moss.
But you don't see too many white corners like you
just don't if you're required to have that's stupid. And
I get it, you're, you know, white guy, you want
to play corner, but you shouldn't be enforced in that regard.

(48:36):
And so that that's sort of what I'm getting at
with with that's my sort of that's my problem with
that concept.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
That's my problem with that.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
What about the Rooney rule then, well, and again enforced,
you know, enforced. It's like the Rooney rule does not
require you to hire minority candidates correct simply to interview them.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
So I can get behind that a little bit more.
Do you believe that it's used as a disadvantage though,
because they can.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Oh, you get a bad case of tokenism now because
people already have in mind who they want to hire
for their head coaches. For those of you who don't know,
the Ruty Rule in football requires football teams to interview
two minority candidates, at least one of which has to
be from outside the organization. So you can't just pull
one of your guys off the off the line, interview
them and say we covered the Ruty rule right, which
is named after u Art where the Steelers are. I

(49:23):
like the idea because it gets somebody in the room.
It allows you to you know, it allows the to
be interviewed and you know who knows. You get the
opportunity to be able to showcase. So I like that
the spirit of where that's at. I like it that
NFL teams circumvented all the time they bring in the
same candidates that they're absolutely not going to hire, which
violates that. But I like the idea behind that rule.

(49:45):
I kind of liked because interviewing, Yeah, getting a diversity
of candidates all of a sudden will put you in
front of guys that you're like, oh, I had never
considered that before. Maybe I should consider that. Vance Joseph got,
you know, got to where he is of those interviews.
He was doing those interviews. Mass Joseph one of the
brightest defensive minds in football. Currently the bron Goes defensive coordinator,

(50:05):
probably going to be a head coach after this year again,
and his first head coaching tenure was kind of a disaster.
So I get, you know, for people before you even
text it on that, I get it. My My thinking
behind that is just like I want, I want everybody
to have, you know, the best opportunity possible. I really do.

(50:28):
I just don't know how we create that process for
everybody to have that one are the texters pointed in
that then in so many situations there are several people
that get considered the best qualified. That's why personal relationships
are important, because what's on paper may not turn out
to be the best fit.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's a double edged sword. I know that from experience.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I've got almost every job I've ever had from personal relationships.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
It wasn't what I knew, it was who I knew.
Now I backed that up with what I knew.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
But almost every almost every job I've ever had outside
of you know, the army and you know, I started
my own company and sold it, but I got this
job because of who I knew. Now I show I
had to go through a tryout process and show what
I knew and your fashion sense of course, so obviously yes,
you know, deep deep V black black V neck t

(51:16):
shirts will get you everywhere.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
You should real quick. I know we got hit right,
Like I had to back that up.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
There was a tryout process, but I got my foot
in the door here because of who I knew, and
I don't think I would have gotten the job if
if it hadn't been for that. So I'm very it's
a double edged sword, like it could be leveraged in
a lot of cases with who you know, passing up
more qualified people.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I'm sure there were more, you know. It was one
of those things I was talking with people.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
I get to talk to people all the time, and
they're like, nobody starts on KOA, this is the fifty thousand,
while Blowtorch in a top twenty market, nobody gets their
radio start there. You got to go spend time in
you know, Omaha, with all due respect the people in Omaha,
you gotta go get your start and those that build
yourself up. And I didn't have any of that, so

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I can definitely understand how that could be beneficial to
somebody like me.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
We'll continue this on the other side.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Got a break because somebody who put in Tom Petty, Okay, understandable.
But then also in that same text message Wayne static. Yeah,
that's well done. Diversity of music right there, definite.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Roskaminski show, benjamut All Bright Filligan for Ross today, Dragon
red Beard back there behind the glass.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Always good to see you, buddy, Hi buddy.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
A lot of a lot of y'all's great texts coming in.
Want to get into some more of this stuff. Uh
with you guys as we as we go along here.
My buddy Mark Olosca is not gonna be able to
join us after all. You know, Mark, Uh, Mark works
the Pentagon on the State Department and Department of Defense
on the these Rizzi Hamas stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
He's been doing it twenty five years. He's out there,
boots on the ground.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I got a chance to trying to get him on today,
but uh, but then he's busy, right, a little bit,
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
So uh, and he is one of the foremost leading experts.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I was hoping to get him on for you guys,
and and I think you would have really enjoyed what
he had to what he had to say and breaking
it down in ways that people can understand.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Marks some one of the smartest guys I know.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
So one of the next times that that I'm on here,
we've got some I've got some guests in my pocket
for this stuff that I don't normally get to break out.
Ross and I have a mutual friend Mike Morrel. You
know who's who's been on Ross's show a few times.
H R. McMaster, who's Trump's former Secretary of Defense. Was
my brigade commander in Iraq back in two thousand and three,

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back when I was attached the one three armcalv.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
So you know, he and I have had a relationship
for twenty something years.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
And get a chance to get him on, get a
chance to I want to give you guys perspectives that
maybe you don't otherwise get. And so some of these
guests that that I'd like to bring on in the
future if I'm fortunate enough to be able to fill
in for Ross. Those are some of the type of
type of guests I want to get on and get
a chance to, get a chance to have you guys
listen to because they bring a unique perspective.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Well, you do seem to have a fan here. Thanks
for doing the show today. They should take Ross and
Mandy off the air more often.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Oh, absolutely not. Ross and Mandy are way better at
this than certainly I am.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
But I love getting the opportunity to do this, and
I love gett the opportunity to chat with you guys,
and some of the stories that you send in on
the text line Pot six sixtenzero, I don't get to
read them all, but I love reading these things because
it reinforces for me or it challenges me. I've had
a great conversation with and not so much today, but
the last time I was on, I had a great
conversation with somebody who was challenging some of the things
that I was saying. And I love that. I'm not

(54:34):
one of those people it's like you agree with me,
or you're out or any that kind of stuff. I
love it when people disagree with me, I do. I
love it.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It challenges my perspectives.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
It forces me to either re examine the way I
think about something or reinforce the way I think about something.
And I think that's something that's lost a lot today
in discourse. People hide anonymously behind screens. They say things
they certainly wouldn't say in public because they get popped
in the face if they did. And then we don't
and they just wall off. It's this is what I'm

(55:03):
this is what I do. I'm going to cherry pick
things to back this up. People don't challenge their own
beliefs anymore, at least not that I see, And anytime
I do see that, I appreciate that person. I view
people as as more the intellectual when they are willing
to challenge their own beliefs rather than simply look for
or cherry pick things to fit what they already want

(55:23):
to happen. Well, thankfully we have AI now that will
help it. Oh wait never, yeah, we already we started
the program off on that too. Damn you missed the
first hour Dragon where that was scary and I alreadyset
that for the people who are just joining us. But
the AI content, for the first time in history, is
outpacing human generated content. Fifty two percent of all new

(55:47):
content coming out is just AI generated and A generated content.
It isn't original because AI content has to draw off
of something. So you know, I, as someone who is
an industry that would be threatened by that have a
bone to pick. I have thoughts, you know, Grinds, Mike Gears,
it was in the Peter Griffith thing for ears. It's

(56:10):
just yeah, I I have problems with that and and
you know, got into that a little in the first hour.
But yes, the AI stuff bugs me. God to love
the confirmation bias. Thanks AI. Right, And I've used that
And I started because I downloaded chat GPT for the
first time. I hate myself for doing it, but I
wanted to test some things out on it, and so

(56:33):
I started using it. For I think those of you
who listened to me at night know that I've been
known to play a video game or two in my time, so.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I tried to I was having a conversation with the AI.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I bought to optimize certain things in video games and
see if they were any good at it. And it
was in or miss. There were some things like there
was nothing groundbreaking that it suggested, although that's what I
was looking for, something that I hadn't thought of. But
that's because it's drawing all off of other people's thoughts
what everybody else has already done. Right, It's an input
output based system, garbage in, garbage out, and so you know,

(57:06):
if whatever it's drawing from or US as an authoritative source,
and then it's going to spit out those ideas back
at you. And so that's that's the thing. I do
think that there are benefits to that. It certainly makes
it can make things more efficient, but you've got to
remember that it's not an original, independent thought. It is
culling Internet content and then spitting that back at you.

(57:26):
It's an aggregate, yes, and so that's that's the main thing.
Er five six, six, nine zeros of text. A lot
of these great ones coming in on music artists that
whose death affected you or will affect you when they
when they passed. Nine seven, Oh said that not a musician.
Mclin Eastwood, he's getting up there. AG's like ninety eight
and he's still know it's strong, Like I think he's

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just surviving on sheer clenched jaw at this point. What
was the movie The Mule or whatever? Yeah, it was
was the one.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Another Grand Torino.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
He was still good in that one. Yeah, but the
Mule was like, dude, it's just oh, I know he's
playing an old character, but just he's so grand Turino
was the last one I believed that he was. He
was still a badass, right, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Like I loved that, but like like that was the
last like the mule, you were like, okay, there's no way.
Like with all due respect, and I think he's made

(58:22):
some some great, great movies over the years, but yeah,
that's a that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
That's a non musician. Let's see three or three.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Then maybe I have no heart, But I've never understood
the emotional investment people have with popular figures. I enjoy
lots of music, but I'm not gonna dwell on an
artist and artists passing, I may go, that's a bummer.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
They had a good run. I'm not gonna dwell. Same
with political figures, pro sports actors and such.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
For me, there's a there's like a.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
And the reason that I did this today is because
there's a nostalgia that gets attached to some of these guys.
You have certain periods of your life that consciously or
subconsciously you associate with certain music and part this all
got started because D'Angelo passed and the late nineties, I
was I was at.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
R and B Neo soul guy.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Uh d'angelo's Brown Sugar was the first song I ever
did karaoke, uh in front of people. And that's a song,
by the way, you ever listened to that song? That
song is not about African American when they need. It's
about smoking weed. So if you're listening to those songs,
it's very clever the way the lyrics that anyway, if

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you listen to it is what it is. But somebody
George Harrison, Paul McCartney will hit hard.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Mccartny was just here. Uh, he was just a Coors
a couple of days ago, correct, Yeah, three oh three.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
My marine's son, a master gunnery sergeant, was instructor at
an MS school in Florida.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Red Flag days, which are days they're too hot for
physical fitness.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Uh. They sent students out to meet up where civilian
workout closed and they would pete. Anyhow, instructors figured no
one in the sand can say it's too hot. Yeah,
that's the thing. There are so many there's such a
bureaucratic approach to physical fitnesses too. I remember we did

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have some of that when I was in the army.
Whether it's too hot to peeteat. It's like what I
will never forget the blast furnace heat for my first
my first tour. Okay, so two thousand and three, tip
this spear. I'm landing in Doha. Actually it was when
we got the Kuwait Take it back. It's when we
got the Kuwait Kuwait City and we hit the tarmac

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at six thirty in the morning, right, and you think
six thirty more the sun is above the horizon because
it sets very late and rises very early there, but
you would think six thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
You think six thirty in the morning. Here, you're thinking
it's like chill bro it was hot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
They just the blast furnace that hit our faces at
six thirty in the morning. And I'm gonna try and
tell this story. I'll see I have to clean it
up a little bit. We had to. It was a
it's like a chartered plane that lands there, civilian plane.
And we'd flown from the base we were on to Bangor, Maine,
to Iceland, to Dublin to like we had to make

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stops and you know, they were doing those shuttling troops
over there and you know, en Mass and we had
to unload all our gear from the bottom of the planet,
unload in our own suitcase. This is so we're doing.
They were slinging Duffel bags, you know, onto the runway.
It's hot or sweating whatever, And I will tell you
we're here in the army, they tell you lock your
duffel bag. They need it. So we're out there with

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you know, slinging bags, lining them up, dress right, dress,
trying to get all this stuff going. And somebody slung
a bag out that was only like kind of half full.
It wasn't packed full like they normally. They're only packed
pretty tight, you know, so it's an easy and this one,
I don't know if it wasn't clipped properly, but it
definitely didn't have a lock on it. It was a
female's bag and slung it and it opened up and

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like a scene from a comedy movie, a women's toy
went flying down the runway, look kawait and turned itself on.
And we're all sitting there because the knaves are spray

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painted on the bottom of these Duffel bags, and like
all the it was this particular detail unloaded this bag
was we were all men.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Nobody was going over there to pick that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Up, picked all the rest of the stuff up or
under roose put it all in, you know, I set
it on top of the bags and things just sit
there going off on the middle. And I promise you
you will not have seen a scene in any movie
that was any funnier than that moment as we got there.
But anyway, it was. It was blazing hot. I mean
it was just just appallingly hot. One hundred and twenty

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degrees by by noon was not uncommon with the wet
bulb thermometer out there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It was absolutely absolutely blazing hot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
So I never understood how it could be too hot
back here in the States to do physical fitness when
we were going to an environment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
We're going to environments that were gallingly hot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
And oh, by the way, your combat load and everything
that you're wearing trapping all that heat, and you know
between your between your vest, you know, the ammo, everything
else that you're pulling on your ouse pack everything else.
I mean, you probably had my combat load. I mean
I weighed at the time, I weigh about one hundred
seventy five pounds, and everything I wore, including my rifle

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and ammunition and everything else that I had to carry
with me was probably pretty close to that, probably closer
to two hundred, and you were just sweating. So I
never understood the idea that was too hot back here
to do physical fitness at that point. Four Ross, Dave
Ross is not here. It's me Benjaminal right. But hey, man,
I was in the three three Armored calf Great show today.

(01:03:58):
Brave Raffles, Hey, Brave Raffles, Buddy bray rahe veterans. That was.
That was good times. That that was good times seven too. Oh,
Ben must not be wet the blanket in the morning.
That's uh, that's a reference to some of the dour
stuff that I do about the broncos at night. The
nickname has become wet blanket, all right, because I've put

(01:04:19):
a wet blanket on things. I guess now the blanket's
in the dryer this morning. Takes a while. It takes
a while. But yeah, as far as these celebrities and
those kinds of things go, I mean, it's not about
celebrating them already, that kind of stuff. It's really more
about the nostalgic attachment that we have to what it
is that they produced, the arts that they produced, or
the comedy or the music or whatever during that period

(01:04:42):
of our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Do you think the perspective also changes when you hear
that they died then to how that they died.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Maybe I don't know. I've never I've never viewed that's
a good question.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I'll probably I'll give you a good example here, and
it's it's not a musician by any means, but Robin Williams.
Yeahing that he died was was devastating. That hurt us, Like,
wait a minute, he was so young, so frickishly funny.
But then you hear how he died, and you're like,
I don't want to say I lost respect, but it's like, dude,

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how can you right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
But I see I with the other way with it?
How could this happen? And I think it's because I
think it's because we all viewed Robin Williams through the
lens of the comedy that he brought us right right,
and so we all made us feel right, and so
we all associated that with a positivity. And you assume,
because we view it through our own lens, that their
life must be so great that they're able to have

(01:05:38):
all this laughter, project all this laughter in our own lives, right,
you know? For a deeply insecure man like Robin Williams,
who was who had a lot going on in his life.
It sort of makes you wonder how someone can be
that while giving us all these other things. And so
I'm with you on that. I didn't lose anything for
Robin Williams. I was probably more affected by that because

(01:05:59):
of the hilarity and the enjoyment that he brought into
my life. And then in that moment, you know like, wow,
how could you know? And your your own brain strug.
And I think that's a reminder for all of us
to remember that the lens with which we view others
and the lives that we see, especially in the social
media era, may not be the actual life that they have.

(01:06:23):
A lot of what you see these days is presented
to the lens or the filter of social media. You
live moment to moment by seeing what that other person
is living on social media. But it's all positive. People
don't put their worst moments, although we do it. We
all have that friend that puts all of their relationship
stuff on Facebook. For most of us, we present the

(01:06:43):
positive moments and people only see and they're like, wow,
everything must be going great. Their lives to the opposite
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
We also look at the musician here, Chester Bennington from
Lincoln Roark, right, a similar thing happened to him and
is like, all right, you know, people loved him for
his music and what he's done and what he's done
for us, and then you hear that he's passed away
and you're like, oh crap.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
And then you hear how and you're like, damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Pro yeah or Cobain, Yeah, Cobain.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It was a big one when I was, you know,
back in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, with many. It's funny because I didn't like Lincoln
Park all that much. I didn't care for it, and
I found their lyrics. I thought their lyrics were kind
of trite, you know. And then when he passed and
I really hated what he did, just Stone Temple pilots,
but I when he passed, then I went back. I
was like, Okay, he actually lived these lyrics. Like maybe
maybe I was being a bit dismissive in that particular.
So I did cause me to re examine a little

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bit in that case. Five six sixt nine zeros the
text line and seven to two Oho, my fiance broke
down and luncontrollable tears when Kobe died.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I couldn't understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
I don't understand being so emotionally invested in the life
of someone you have no personal connection to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
You could be upset their passing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
There's probably some attachment that she had to a positive
moment with the Lakers or Kobe or or something like
that that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Brought that out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Maybe the Lakers won winning a championship at a time
when she maybe met you, uh you say, your fiance.
So that's probably not the case. But unless you've been
engaged a really long time, long time, but you know,
there's probably some positive moment in her life or some
impactful moment in her life that she associates with that,
and that's that's what we do with these kinds of things.

(01:08:21):
A lot of people on the text line mentioning David
Gilmore more than I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
When he leaves. Not yeah, right, but that that's one
of those that's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Seven to two zero. Rob Williams had blue body to mension.
That's why he took his life. He knew how bad
things were going to get. He was deeply depressed. He
wasn't Yeah, there's saying you can read up on that.
I don't want to get too deep in the weeds
on that, but yeah, but what what happened was, as
a public we viewed that through our own lens. We
view that through the guy who brought us missus doubtfire,

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and we don't think about, hey, this guy's a real
human being who's real issues on the back side of that,
because we don't see it. And it's the same thing
like with the distorted and warped world that we live
in because of social media. We see everybody's positive posts
about how great things are going for themselves and we
don't really look at it through these are real, actual
people back there who have real problems.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
That they don't show us.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
And it's it's fascinating, the false dichotomy between real world
life and social media life. I've talked about this before.
You post something on social media and it gets twenty
five likes and you're like, well, that underperformed. If twenty
five people came up to you during the day and say, hey, man,
you look great today, you would be overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You would just I mean like you're you would be well, wow,
I really must look to it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
You know, we need to make that into a challenge
that no social media in November or something where we
just compliment each other. We all, you know, we publicly
like each other. We'll make it like a gesture, you know,
click like you give me the a pointer finger. You
just click like on my day not doing social media,
but I want to click like on you in real life.

(01:10:05):
I hope you're having a great day because these dudes
we struggle to like. It almost sounds a little dirty. Dude,
I'm not a clicklike on you today. Well you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Well, if we'll come up with something better than that.
I yeah, it sounded bad off the bat, but I'm
sure we can come up with it. Brainstorm a little bit,
come over with something better than that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
But you know what I mean, Like, we don't encourage
each other in real life anymore, and as a man,
we really don't do that. Check in on your buddy,
ask you buddy, I always doing today, Trust me on
that one. That's good for us all. You know, we
need to do better about that. This is one of

(01:10:39):
those things we need to do better about it. We
need to do better about not attributing so much to
what we see in social media. Thanks for such an
uplifting show. My goodness, Well, I'm trying to be uplifting
right now. I'm trying to be I'm trying to turn
that into up. Yeah, they're gonna bring it up. Yeah,

(01:11:00):
I know he got a little heavy there. My bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I didn't mean for it to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
The the the point behind all of that was sort
of to to sit there and examine the attachments that
we have to some of these moments and why we
have the attachment to these moments. I never really got
there landed the plane on that one, but hopefully I
didn't wreck the you go today look and somebody got
that with you guys, by the way, when I'm on
and all the wreck the obscure, ridiculous automobiles that people have,

(01:11:26):
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate that. It's
it's a reminder that we all are having a continuing
conversation here, and that bit has just become one of
my absolute favorites that that people do. Anytime I get
a chance to fill in for Ross the whole reck
the Ferrari thing that I told him, and now it's
devolved into somebody had a Fiat strata in here. You
guys that that tweet at me, sending me pictures of

(01:11:48):
like these junk cars don't wreck the you know, the
eighty one Honda Civic Hatchback, which was, by the way,
the first car ever had. Hey, look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Somebody broke in and installed the stereo. Thing was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
I appreciate all that you guys did sending stuff in today.
Somebody said Keith Richards died years ago. Mick Jagger's energy
keeps him up right. I think it's like a scene
from Simpsons, remember when mister Burns goes to the doctor's
office or whatever, and then he comes back and and
Smithers is like trying to explain it to him. Sorry,
you have all the diseases that are perfectly unbalanced. The
slant of sneeze could kill you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
And he's like, I see more of the Highlander and
the quickening. Yeah, okay, every time another rock star dies,
he gains their soul. Real QUI before we get out
of here, you know, Henry Cavill's doing the Highlander? Are
you doing the Highlander?

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Yeah? You got hurt. That's on it's on pause right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Yeah, because you got it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Okay, all right, Because we were talking about this Semon nerd,
I know that kind of stuff. Okay, did you watch
the Highlander TV show? Not so much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
The show was big into the movies and it's just
like from from one to two, it's just like, seriously, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Yeah, well that is the second one sucks to omit
that from the can and the rest of it. But
I watched the TV show and so ran Edwards and
I got it this huge debate because he's like, you're
a nerd.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I'm like, yeah, I'm up front about being a nerd.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
That's fine. About ad and Paul doing the TV show
and I was like it was good. He's like that
the TV show sucked, and I was like, it didn't suck.
Even Christopher Lambert did the pilot on the TV show.
He was there. You know. I thought that, you know,
Adrian Paul wasn't much of an actor, but I thought
the show was fun and start in terms of fleshing
out the mythology. And a lot of the ladies thought
he was good looking, so it's fine. He had the
ponytail back, you know, back in the day when it

(01:13:19):
was acceptable for you know, for the ponytail. Yeah, then
one of those things feven two zero real quick here
so with Tangel was passing yesterday and shed some tears
and musician myself, his influence was huge on me. When
Vudu came out, had an unbelievable impact on me. Never
met him, but his impact on me was massive. Yeah,
that's that's the that's we got all this started. The
first song I ever carryokeied in public was was Brown Sugar.

(01:13:41):
I wore that album out back in the nineties. I
love it. Neo soul sounds, so you know that was
that was one of those things I get it. I
appreciate you guys, let me ride with you today. I
always appreciate getting to come in here and do this.
I appreciate the conversation. I appreciate and you guys emailing
and texting and stuff after the show to give me
advice on you know, directions you want to talk next time.
I love doing these conversations, so I appreciate it, and

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I appreciate you guys listening.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I hope you all have a wonderful day. Mandy Conn'll
show up next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Oh my god. Yeah, fascinating moment here where I looked
out at the corner of my computer screen and it
said that it was eleven fifty, and I'm like, man,
this show flew by. I didn't even get to like
half the stuff I wanted to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
I'm surprised by you looking at the actual clock on
the computer rather than the three that are on the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Ways that are accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
That's the best. That's the best part.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
There are three digital clocks that are much much larger
right in front of my face, and I'm looking at
this one. I'm like, oh man, this one with a tiny,
little dinky one so fast. And then the text line,
Oh my god, the hilarity, absolute hilarity of the twenty
or thirty text messages.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I'm an idiot sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
And this like, that's a classic case of me being
an idiot. I rebooted the computer in the correct times
on here now, So there's there's at least.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
That I absolutely love it. How many people UH love
to correct you when you make a mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Hey, I Missalpa, and you gotta admit it when you
uh so many texts? Yeah, I wrecked the Ferrari, guysh
I wrecked it. Five six six Zero's the text line.
I do have other stuff I wanted to get to,
So I'm like Wow, that show went fast.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
Now we're gonna keep talking. Highland are great? Thanks guys.
Now I've got the Highlander TV show theme song stuck
in my head.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Pretty sure. It's Queen. Yeah it was Instance of the Universe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, it was a yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Every time you do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
You would hear that. Come all here the Queen vocals
or whatever. Tell me you did not so and real.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Quick, this is a conversation because guys will know what
I'm talking about. What was the other show?

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
My wife liked this one too, the guy on the motorcycle. Uh,
Renegade Redden, that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Lorenzo Lamas and Outlaw hunting out Laws Bounty Hunt or Renegade.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, that was a Stephen JoNell show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Call actually acted in that show, by the way, going
crazy over those two shows.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Stephen J.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Canell, who you know you always see the little thing
of him typing. You know he passed away, but you
got to say he did all these shows. He actually
acted in that show. He wrote this show, but he
also acted in that show. He was one of it
was like the dirty cop who was framing Lorenzo Lamas
or whatever was Loren's Lamas ever in anything else. I know,
he's the soap, he's the soap overs before he did Retegade.
But that show, it was, that show was utterly ridiculous,

(01:16:18):
driving the motorcycle around with the flowing hair leather vest
with nothing underneath. It just didn't always open, you know.
It was like, uh an extremely poor man's Walker, Texas Ranger,
the snap kicks and the you know, the karate or whatever,
just like the Highlander. It got the the teenage girls,
yeah all over it. Yeah, So anyway, I uh, I

(01:16:40):
apologize for wrecking the Ferrari an hour early and then
it was it was hilarious, like that, you still have
another hour Mandy show starts at eleven. No, no, who's
an hour somewhere. Who's confused here? Better me? It makes
it even slightly more sad that it's not even Mandy. Yeah,
it's all today. But I did say Mandy Call's show,

(01:17:05):
so technically I was correct, as the Mandy Cottle Show
will be up next. It will just be at its
regular time and not me trying to bounce out of
here an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Before, or I was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
I was like, because I'm looking at him, like, man,
I did not get to like half the stuff I
wanted to get to here, and it was it was
freaking me out. I'm like, did I really spend that
much time talking about you know?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
In anyway, I'm an idiot. So I apologize to you all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
You've got me for another hour, and I apologized to
your ears for having me for another hour here as
as well. Uh. Somebody did send in from the three
h three sent in a link about Mississippi's education. We're
actually going to get to that, uh in a little bit.
Mississippi has turned around their their education. Mississippi was right
dead last and everything, and over the last about fifteen

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years or so, they've really turned their education system around
with a state led initiative.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
We'll get to that here and just in just a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
The first thing I want to get to though, real quick,
is it the Dragon Redbeard show? Tod then find the
eject button on Ross's car. Yes, Uh, that's where we
have an ejector seat. What was the what was the
show they had the car with the ejector seat?

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Not night Rider?

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
What was the the one that James Bond, I mean
Bond had but there was Maybe I'm losing my mind here,
but I thought there was another live action show, The Headlight,
that featured the prominent ejector seat.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Maybe I'm losing my mind here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
A MythBusters tried to create the right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Yeah, I remember that. I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Was it? No, it wasn't mcormick A Hardcastle who had
I don't know, I'll figure it out. One of the
things I want to get to is a local meteorologist
at Fox and Whit, Khylie Beers, has had a stalker,
an obsessed fan for years, and this story kind of
broke this week.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
About what she went through trying to protect herself from
this stalker.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
And at first, you know, the messages on are social
media that she would get didn't seem to be super alarming,
but Kylie says that things have changed to seep picking
out because it's a matter of safety. Beers, who's a
meteorologist for our TV partners at Fox thirty one Denver,
recently told People Magazine she began receiving messages from a
sixty nine year old man back in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
They quickly began to escalate.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Un quote, there's commenting on something and then there's hundreds
of comments at a time, and I know that being
on local news, you want people to feel welcome a
part of their morning routine. But it's just sometimes things
goes a little far. And one of the messages Beerce,
who's thirty six, alleges the man informed her that a
microphone cord was showing during whatever broadcasts gasp yeah and

(01:19:45):
then said after that, I love you, my beautiful wife,
he allegedly wrote, adding that, oh, my beautiful wife, you
fixed it after the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Chord was expired her production team.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Over the course of a few years, the man sent
hundreds of similar messages on social media, including Instagram, TikTok,
dozens of emails, and then started reaching out to her
family and friends. He reached out to her sister in
law about potentially buying a painting she'd made. A friend
posted a tip that Kylie was in Thailand, and he said,
I can't wait to take her there. One day Beerce

(01:20:20):
was traveling, the man would comment on every post saying
can't wait to go there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Just obsessive type stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
But over that time she blocked him multiple times, but
you would reach out again on a new account, showing
up at charity events, including a hike that she was
leading for the Breckinridge Food and Wine Festival back in
August of twenty twenty three, and it was there the
man approached her as she walked off the trail. He
had this shoe box for her and said, I have
hiking shoes for you, adding that she told him she

(01:20:50):
appreciates a gesture, but can't accept the gift or talk
to him because and then the man became visibly upset,
began to cry and at one point claiming that he
thought they were in a relationship for the last year.
He said that I believed I was his wife, says
Bierce had made me just sick to my stomach, and
I realized this had gone far beyond.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I like your stuff on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
The event organizer stepped in that day and they deescalated
the situation to scored the guy out, but he allegedly
kept trying to come back. The next month, in September
of twenty twenty three, Beerce was able to secure a
temporary restraining order against the guy, which she says he
violated fifty three times. The permit restraining order was granted

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in January of twenty twenty four. Now keep in mind
fifty three times that September of twenty three to January
of twenty twenty four, multiple times a week fifty three
times over four months is more than ten times a month.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
That's more. Yes, that is multiple times per week on average.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Eighteen months later, on September eleventh, twenty twenty five this year,
Bierce was driving home from work around eleven am, hold
up to her home and noticed an unfamiliar truck parked
out front. As soon as I realized who it was,
my stomach first dropped, she said, here soay. She quickly
closed her garage door ran inside her home before the

(01:22:13):
man walked to the front door and started ringing the doorbell.
At that point, she grabbed her dog ran outside the
back door, calling nine one one. The man was allegedly
sitting in the truck when police arrived and took him
into custody. She felt very safe, she said after his arrest,
suspecting that he would be charged with felony stalking. That

(01:22:37):
didn't happen, and you would think that that would be enough.
But it didn't happen. We come back. I got a break.
I'll tell you what did happen. You're listening to the
Ross Kminski Show, not the Mandy Coddle Show on KAWI.
There are a few things that I'm talented at, and
this is one of them. I think it's more than
a few. I think you're selling yourself short dragging red
beer back there bench. But A'll Bright filled in for

(01:22:59):
Ross Kiminsky. We talk about coni murs and the stalker
that she'd had. So the guy was sitting outside her
apartment in a pickup truck on September eleventh this year,
arrested by police, and she thought that this is going
to be the end of it. They're going to charge him.
Finally they caught him red handed in the act. He's
got to go to jail and she's going to be safe.

(01:23:20):
That's not what happened. The Member District Attorney's office charged
him with violating a protection order, which is a misdemeanor.
After spending a few days in jail, he was released
on fifteen hundred dollars personal recognizance bond. Frustrated verse As,
she reached out to the District Attorney's office and was
told that there had been too big of a time
gap between when he had last stalked her and the

(01:23:41):
recent event, she said, she pressed the prosecutor how long
the man would have to wait to stalk her again
for it to be wipe clean and not count. And
he couldn't give me an answer.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Finally, he just said, it's a judgment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Call has been a milliorologist for fifteen years, previously worked
in Idaho, Utah, and Minnesota, said she's lived at the situation. Quote,
I've done everything right by the system. I filed the
restraining order, I called the police. I feel like the
system is letting me down, even though I followed all
the rules. Makes me sad, not just for myself and
my safety, but knowing how many other women are going
through this or have gone through this and will if

(01:24:18):
they don't change anything. And his statement shared with People
magazine and a spokesperson for the Denver District Attorney's office
said they don't comment on open cases, but confirm the
man schedule to be sentenced on November twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
For the misdemeanor.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
I have some.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Experience with this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
I love interacting with listeners, I love interacting with people.
I love, you know, all the stuff, the extended family
that we get sort of out of this medium with
that kind of stuff, and it's heart. That's what I am.
I'm an entertainer. The vehicle I do that through is informative,
whether it's this show or sports. But at heart, I'm
an entertainer and I enjoy that stuff. But there are

(01:25:03):
people that cross the line, those of you. You know,
it was it five six years ago. I had a
whole weird, weird group of people that made up a
bunch of stuff about me. Tried to say that I
faked my entire background. You remember that, they tried to
say that I'd never served in the military, all this
kind of stuff that I had to wound up having
to release my records.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
But there was a couple of days there where they
were like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
This guy's faked, it was an entire life, and all
this kind of stuff that those blog posts still exist
on the internet, and so like when I it still
affects I mean, this is not stalking, but I can
relate to it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Because it still affects me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
You know, if I'm out there trying to date somebody
and they google me, I have to go through all
of this fake nonsense on the internet about me and
explain that stuff away to people that don't know. And
there's times where it's cost me opportunities with people. This
is a little bit different because this is potential for danger.
But there's got to be some kind of and I

(01:26:00):
get it, nobody wants to feel sorry for the radio
guy or whatever, the you know, TV person, but there
does have to be a mechanism here where people like that,
who are clearly deranged and demented, there has to be
some sort of mechanism that someone like Kylie can feel safe.
But she had to move, she had to move from
her her residence because she no longer fell safe because

(01:26:21):
this guy was able to find this information out and
be there in her driveway, clearly not wanted. And there's
no there's there's there's no repercussion. At the at the
end of the day, he's gonna get a misdemeanor. And
six months from now, when he's back out there doing
the same thing, what are we gonna do about it.

(01:26:45):
We're gonna talk about the Mississippi education Miracle. We come
back Rossamenci show. We'll see if people get the connection
there after this one. Oh, we get a really smart audience.
So that's which we do. That's what That's why I
love it because they will h they will get that
five six sixt nine zero is the text line. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Several people reminded me that it was the night Writer
with the ejection seat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Yeah, yeah, I don't call that. I do remember it there,
but I thought there was another car show that had it.
Maybe I'm off in that, but I do remember because
there was one where Hasselhoff gets ejected through the sun
roof like or whatever to like go fight, you know,
he's he's automatically in fighting position or whatever. Was Yeah,
that show was ridiculous. I'm not sure it was more ridiculous.
Was night Rider or Airwolf more ridiculous? Airworf was like

(01:27:25):
night Writer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
But a chopper because it's a helicopter, right, Yeah, exactly
like to do night Rider, but everybody's just got a
helicopter standing by to fight crime, Yes, to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Go fight crime, you know, And you could totally get
away with hiding that thing. We could just sneak up
on people couldn't just follow the chopper back. I mean
even these days, you couldn't really hide a car. You
couldn't hide a batmobile anywhere. Yeah, I just thought those
were funny. Several people talking about the Kylie Burr situation

(01:27:54):
the seven too of my daughter's going through this right now.
It's got a message from Adam County Sheriff Department that
they're refusing to charge him man with saying anything with anything,
saying they.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Don't have probable cause.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
But just the messages he sent me would be enough,
because he threatened to send people to my home, created
fake profiles, my daughter's picture, started sending messages from it.
Maybe not exactly the same, but still talking stalking.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
I cannot personally relate to having a stalker, but I
do know people in this very building who have had
very similar situations, and we've gone from the light stalking
to even bomb threats. So yeah, we kind of know,
but we don't know because it didn't happen to us personally.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, I just say I can empathize. I haven't exactly
had stalkers like that. I've certainly had people that have
gotten into my life and done, you know, horrific things
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
You know, my ex wife used to get.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Messages from people right around that time when they were
doing all the fake stuff about my service record and
all that kind of stuff. You know, my ex wife
would get weird text messages from people doing that kind
of stuff. You know, but nothing. We didn't have somebody
threat to show up at the house one time, but
of course they never did, you know, that kind of stuff.
All right, Well, I mean you're welcome to you won't
be leaving, but you know that that that's I can't

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imagine what it's like, you know, being a woman these days,
where you know, you have people.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
That do that kind of stuff. I mean, I can
understand her fear of one and moving to a new house.
Even here in our secured facility, people have just been
able to get in and make coffee for people that
they were stalking here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
So there's that, wasn't that one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I'm sure that even even her at work, probably a
touch on the paranoid side, you know, with people just yeah,
finding their way into the building.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
We're pretty secure here behind multiple you know, key cars.
Of course, we have the history here back in the
eighties with the alan Berg situation. Uh. Even that this
window that I look at right here is supposed to
the bulletproof glass, you know, that's what they tell us. Yeah,
nobody's that. I've seen you feel better knowing you, I
tell you what it is, you feel better, But I've
never stun anyway. Five six six guys zero is the

(01:30:00):
text line the three or three dang ben, it's word
you might get your own non sports talk show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Then you did the Mandy thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Not now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Yep, it's over. It's over for me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
It's over for me, kids, three or three says my
friend on Fox thirty one for her nonprofit was stalked
by a sixty nine year old man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
I wonder if it was the same situation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I don't know, Kylie worked for Fox thirty one, but
apparently this person's friend who appeared on Fox thirty one
also got stalked.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
So yeah, I don't know the answer to that as
far as that one goes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
So one thing I do want to talk about is
the Mississippi education miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
And a listener actually texted in a link on this
this is on my topics today, So that's that's sympatoco.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
So that's just scary. Yeah. In that mindset, I imagine
to state this ranked dead lasted nearly like educational every
educational ranking right Mississippi, more than half of third grade
students were unable to read proficiently. Imagine half of students
in the third grade can't read. That's how bad the

(01:31:03):
education system was down there, colleges pouring millions in a
remedial education because way too many high school graduates arrived
unprepared for college reading and writing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
This is the aren't the people who didn't go to college?

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
People who arrived at the university system in Mississippi and
were unable to read and do basic math. Poverty, historical
inequities plagued classrooms. Socially promoting children who could not read
was the norm. And that was Mississippi back in twenty twelve.

(01:31:36):
Fast forward to today, that same state has engineered a
stunning reversal. Fourth grade reading scores on the National Assessment
of Education Progress have skyrocketed from fiftieth in the nation
a decade ago to top ten now, with gaines holding
steady in twenty twenty four, while the national average declines.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Again, this is Mississippi. I keep in mind, I come
from Markansas.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
The remarkable turnaround which has been known are coined by
many's the Mississippi miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
It isn't magic.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
It's the result of a deliberate state led innovation that
transformed early literacy from the ground up. And there was
a recent segment on Fox News that highlighted phonics is
one of the key components of the turnaround in student outcomes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Phonics matters.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Thinking that it alone explains the Mississippi miracle, he missed
the playbook. But Mississippi built a coordinated and sustained system,
and it started with leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
From the top in their state.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Governor Phil Bryant, who signed the Literacy Based Promotion Act
back in twenty thirteen, didn't just sign it. He championed
it rallied the legislation to pass transformative policy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
He got bipartisan support.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
His vision set the tone of no more excuses, no
more social promotions, no more settling for mediocrity. And the
Literacy Based Promotion Act did more than required teachers to
use phonics instruction. It rebuilt early literacy systems from the
classroom up. The Act required that every kindergarten through third
grade teacher be retrained in evidenced based reading instruction through

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what is commonly called the Letters Training. The Act required
that reading coaches be deployed in the lowest performing districts
to model instruction and provide daily feedback to teachers. Early
childhood programs such as the Mississippi Building Blocks and pre
K Collaboratives were aligned with k through three goals to
ensure that children arrived at kindergarten ready to learn. For

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the first time, every district used the same universal screener
within the first thirty days of kindergarten. Students were assessed
three times a year in kindergarten, first, second and third grades,
ensuring that there are common data sets from the screener
which were used to drive instructural decisions and then retention
alone it's you, that's not a solution when a child

(01:33:56):
still lagged after twelve classroom data points had failed. The
third grade assessment was intentionally different. Struggling reader was placed
in a completely different experience for repeating.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
The third grade.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Repeating students were placed in it with a highly qualified
teacher receiving sixty minutes of intensive daily reading instruction in
smaller groups, followed by an individualized.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Reading plan and that was.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Developed in collaboration with these students' families. And these interventions
aren't punishment for kids, but focused for remediation, designed to
change a child's trajectory before failure became permanent. Phonics and
the science of teaching reading are important part of vocabulary comprehension,

(01:34:42):
fluency language development, and they did all with state funds,
state innovation, no federal oversight dictating the work, and they've
been holding the line for.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Twelve years now.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
And this is I mean, this is huge. States need
to be going down. I've never thought I'd say this,
States need to be going down to Mississippi and say
how can we emulate this program and bring it back
to our states because it's working. I don't always like
education initiatives that force teachers to teach to the test,

(01:35:21):
but this isn't that. There are tests for comprehension, there
are tests for efficacy, but this isn't a teach to
the test type situation. And as we continue to pour
millions and billions of dollars into an education system here
in America that's not getting better, Mississippi, of all places,
is getting it right. Who have thunk it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
Of all places.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Getting it right? I mean, it fascinates me how And
this goes back to the conversation that we were having
earlier about standards. The standard has fallen off, and people
there are the education system is so flooded and so crowded,

(01:36:08):
and so teachers are so pressed they don't have the
time for all this kind of stuff. Anymore that they
just try to get the eighty percent of kids they
can or the twenty percent of kids that you know
that that aren't. They just try to push them through.
It's lead the next guy's problem. Well, the problem is
it gets to a point where it doesn't matter anymore.
The next guy's problem. There's the potment. They can't read,
they can't add, they can't do math, and so then

(01:36:30):
those guys just push them through trying to get them out,
and it doesn't help anybody. Yeah, it sucks if somebody's
got to be held back at somebody. It sucks if
they've got to do a repeat year. But this is
this plan that they've got right now to get these
third graders repeating third grade, but not with the regular
third graders.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
They put them in these in this sort of remedial
program that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Pays a closer attention and gives more individualized instruction to
make sure they get it. A completely different approach. Right,
We've created a safety net that works, and I would
highly encourage educators to look at what they're doing because
it's working. It's the effective, and it's working. Throwing more

(01:37:13):
money at the problem has not worked, and that's what
we've been doing for years throwing money at the problem,
and it's not working. This is working, and we need
things that work because the education standard is slipping nationally.
The numbers are slipping, and they continue to slip, and
we continue to be to the thirties through the fifties
and education depending on which grading you know, you believe

(01:37:37):
despite the fact that we spend more money per student
than anyone, it's not a money issue.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
It's a process issue.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Let's find processes that work, because a better educated populace
is better for us all. And I wish they'd had
programs like this coming up. You know, I was a
pretty but I knew a lot of people that weren't.
And I had friends that, you know, wanted to be

(01:38:07):
better students. But by the time you know, you're in
the ninth grade or tenth grade, like it's it's too late,
and they're just trying to fake it till they make it,
you know, to make it. Did you ever know anybody
that got held back a year? Yes, my brother, my
younger brother, had dyslexia really bad and and and so
you know, it was tough for him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
So he did he did a remediation year. My parents.
I had a different educational upbringing. I think that a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
I did four years of private school, four years of homeschool,
and four years of public school. I got all three,
and there are advantages and disadvantages to each. And part
of the homeschool thing, which was done in the middle
in between private schools early on and then public schools
later on. Part of the reason or the idea behind
that from my parents was, you know, my brother, who

(01:38:53):
had dyslexia, was struggling to keep up, and they could
individualize his attention. And then I was a little advanced,
and you know, I'd be done. I remember third grade.
I was a private school in Kansas City. Third grade,
and I would be done with my work by ten am.
And so the teacher for the third grade class would
just send me over to the fourth grade teacher. They like,
go in there and read, you know, if they first
they sent me the library to read books, and then

(01:39:13):
you know, run out of books to read, so then
they send me the fourth grade class. And so.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
That wasn't helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
And so my mom could tailor things too, and bless
her hearts, she did for those four years. My mother,
who's not a trained educator or anything like that. But
she did a fantastic job of like trying to tailor
stuff both to me and to my brother and make
things interesting, make learning fun, which I you know, I
was always a voracious I wouldn't learn everything. I felt
left out if I didn't know something, But you know,
she did such a great job with that, and so

(01:39:45):
I kind of got the experience of all three and
there are pluses and minuses and drawbacks to all of it.
I did my we moved to Arkansas what would have
been my seventh or eighth grade year. I was still
homeschool at that point, and then you know, they kind
of gave me the choice, what do you want to
do from here on out? In Arkansas? At the time,
you couldn't get a high school diploma if you homeschool.
It was only a ged and that was seen as lesser. Nowadays,

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that's not really seen as lesser, but it was seen
as lesser back then. So at that point in time,
I was like, Okay, well I want to get a
diploma to say planned you know, I want to go
to college and all that kind of stuff. And so
I wound up going to We looked at a couple
of different schools, some private schools, some public school, and
I wound up just I was like, you know what
I've done the other two, let's do the public school thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
It was different.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
The standards were lower, but I'm glad that I did it.
Standards were lower even for your your mom's homeschool. So
the standards, Yes, the math that I was doing in
ninth grade in public school in Arkansas was the same
math that I was doing in seventh grade and homeschool
with my mother. It was geometry, so you know that
that sort of mathematical level. I just basically repeated geometry

(01:40:49):
even though I'd already done it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
There were these standards that your mom was studying. Were
there like a state homeschool standards.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
There were some of that. I mean, that was still
that was at the process where a lot of that
stuff was still being worked out in the nineties where
all that stuff started coming to the forefront. And I'm
sure things are a little bit more regulated now because
you had a wide variety of homeschools back then too.
You had people that just didn't care it, didn't want
to be in school, so they climed they were homeschool
It didn't my mom, who put a ton of effort
into doing that, but it was, you know, I look

(01:41:18):
at this and I'm like, hey, things that are working,
we need to celebrate. We need to draw attention to
that more. And this stuff going on down there in
Mississippi for the last decade plus, and what a fantastic
job they've doing that deserves to be applauded. And I
think we could all stand to take a step back
and say, all right, if this is working for them,
how can we adapt that. What lessons did they learn

(01:41:38):
through this? And how can we adapt that to our
own And Colorado's you know, does pretty well with education,
but things can always be better. And so I went
to highlight that, and I thank the listener for also
sending some stuff in on that as well. Who sent
that in earlier five six six nine zeros in text

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line nine seven DoLS is what about the show.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Auto Man, the one with a Dodge Viper. I don't
remember that one, Auto Man.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
I don't remember that one, but I don't even recognize
the name.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Okay, nice of.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
And oh the response to stalking in Colorado is the
same old story in a different year. I was stalked
across three counties. Restraining orders were worthless. All the paperwork
accomplished was letting the individual know where my new safe
spot was. The individual stalk me racked up nine misdemeanors
and seven felonies in three counties in less than six months.
I pressed charges in all three counties. He shot at

(01:42:33):
me multiple times with the high power rifle. Police pulled
the slugs out of the front of a building where
I was employed, secured casing from his shooting roost, took
the rifle from him. He was videotaped climbing over a
razor wire into the parking lot of a high security
parking lot, slashed all four tires on my vehicle, urinated
on my driver's side door in handle. Served no time

(01:42:54):
as a first time offender in three separate counties.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Welcome to Crazy Automan had one season from eighty three
to eighty four. A computer generated superhero and his human
creator fight crime in the city. And it looks a
little tron esque.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
No wonder if they had the ejectors that might be it,
that might be remembered. Yeah, the night seven h who
just sent in that text message? Yeah, that seems to
be the thing. Whether this guy where there's a lot
of this going on as you look at this. I
know of a musician in a in a band, in
a national band who he and his wife live here
and they had some they've had some issues with that.

(01:43:34):
Let's see. I don't want to mention the band of
the person, but they they've had some issues with that,
and it's been a struggle to try to get protection for.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
The teenage daughters because of this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Person, you know, following around and being threatening and invasive
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
You'd like to think with kids involved, that it would
be a little I mean, yeah, anything, it could be easier,
but no, yeah, hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Seven to two ozur phone and known. I could have
listened to a Ferrari today. I would have tuned in sooner.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
I love the listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Well, he would have ended at eleven different seven to Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
Why do you say Mississippi, of all places you think
they're all just a bunch of dumb hicks down there? Listen.
I'm from Arkansas. I feel like I have license to
sort of talk about this a little bit. Yes, there
is a perception Mississippi was dead last in education for
the longest of time that doesn't mean that they're all
hicks down there. There are very I'm sure there are
plenty of intelligent people in Mississippi living next door in Arkansas.

(01:44:34):
How would I know to judge that, right, that's the joke. No,
there are plenty of intelligent people down there. What I'm
saying is that state as a whole and by and large,
was one of the absolute worst in terms of education
for decades, and they figured out a solution that worked.
That's why I say Mississippi, of all places, maybe necessity

(01:44:56):
is the mother of invention in that particular case. In
any event, it's working, and they're they're a top ten
state by most metrics and education now after just one
decade of implementing this. That's pretty good. I'll take that
as a win. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Eight one five.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Our daughter's thirty seven was almost held back in the
first grade until we had her do Hooked on phonics
at home worked for me. A lot of you know,
and it's funny, a lot of people did have did
have a lot of success with that. I remember the
commercials of whatever. Hooked on finance worked for me, but
a lot of people had success with that. I think
my mom kind of sort of like invented her own
hooked on phonics for my brother. She didn't do the

(01:45:34):
hooked on phonics because I don't think there was a
whole program with like cassette tapes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
Yeah, I don't think we could afford it back then.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
But I think she I think she created her like
our friend had it, and so she kind of figured
it out and like created her own had a similar
thing for my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Oh yeah, we were struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
My mom.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
She went to uh the thrift store.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
I got a set of encyclopedias, like there was all
kind you know, she would I have I have in
my adult I mean, I love my mother, but I've
had a newfound respect in my adulthood for my mother
for the great length that she went to for us kids.
I try to convey that to her when I get
the opportunities to do that these days. And now she's
great at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Guy, you're so annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
You're so me. Although she made some fun lesson plans
for us, I mean some really fun stuff in a
way to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Demonstrate pattern recognition.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
You know, this whole thing on spies and stuff like that,
This whole lesson plan on spies and all this kind
of stuff. We did a lesson on cryptography, which you know,
did you watch an episode of Get Smart?

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
We didn't have a TV.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
I didn't have a TV until I was thirteen years old. Yeah,
we really didn't. I sometimes at some point I'll start
let people in on my weird, weird upbringing. Yeah, at
some point I'll we can have a show dedicated to
my upbringing and people can be like, wow, that's fascinating, No,
wonder you are the way you are.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Oh, you don't even know half of it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
At some point we'll get into that. I did Grant
Smith or on grad Smith. I did Day Is Taking
It for Granted podcast and went into some of that stuff.
You can still find the archives on the iHeartRadio A
if you guys ever want to listen to that stuff.
But at some point we'll do that on here two. Oh,
my three year old's very vast for his age. I
have Miss Rachel to thank for getting him started. That's
one of the new ones, right. My grandson's big in

(01:47:22):
Miss Rachel right now. Yeah, I don't know what that is,
but I've heard it. So think of like a mister
rodgers asque or yeah, which, by the way, did you
see that. Ay, I think I did. For I gave
the Nick the other day. It's it's Tupac on the
show of Mister Rogers. Oh wow, Okay, and it's like
basically mister Rogers creating the opening lines for hit him
up to. It's totally fake, but it looks so real,

(01:47:45):
absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
If you get a chance. I think Nick has it
out there on his on his Twitter.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I appreciate you guys being along for the ride this
time for real. Are you sure I'm a check that
I have checked all three clocks in the studio. The
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