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October 16, 2024 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am so pleased to welcome to the show for
the first time.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Blake Berman.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Blake's chief Washington correspondent for News Nation, and he hosts
The Hill on News Nation.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's each weekday at four.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Pm Mountain Time, a show that often ends with him
giving a fist bump to my good friend Leland Vindor Blake,
It's really good to have you on the show.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thanks for making time for us.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Of course, good morning. How's it going.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's going well.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I mean, let me ask you a half personal question
before we dig into the issues.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
It does it? Does it?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Where on you to talk about politics every day? You know,
I do a little bit, but I have a three
hour show and I probably make a third of it
politics these days. You always do your job with a smile,
and I'm impressed by that.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Thank you. I appreciate that I have a smile on
my face right now with you asking Look, this is
this is God time, right. I mean, politics is nasty.
Politics is ugly. There's a lot of the country that
is just chick and set up with it for obvious reasons.
It's pretty part of it and pretty tribal and in
some spots, but there's also I think a pretty substantial

(01:08):
portion of the country that doesn't have a team, doesn't
root for their side, and you know, still wants to
know what's going on, what's happening. And I mean, just
look at what happened in Georgia yesterday, this first day
of early voting in the swing state there, and they
had I think it was like by the end of
the day of three hundred thousand people, north of two

(01:29):
hundred and fifty thousand people. I don't know the exact number.
At sixty eastern last night it was aroun one hundred
and fifty thousand, and that was basically double early voting
in Georgia four years ago on the exact you know,
same first day of early voting. And so there's clearly
an appetite, clearly an interest there. Yeah, it can get nasty,

(01:51):
It can get nasty often.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
The Georgia thing is interesting because I've actually talked to
my listeners about this and you've talked to viewers about
this for for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean, the Trump and Trump's.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
People talked Georgia Republicans out of voting last time. Potentially
that's why Trump lost the state, and it's definitely why
Democrats got both Senate seats in Georgia, which still seems
almost impossible. And so now I think they've figured it out.
And even Trump he's at least talking out of both

(02:25):
sides of his mouth now, Like on the one hand
he hates early voting and mail in voting, and on
the other hand he's telling all his people to do it.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
There's been a complete shift for Donald Trump. You're right,
he's now He was a skeptic, to put it lightly,
of early voting, and now he is embracing it. The
party as a whole is embracing it. One of the
things I'll have to do in Georgia, you know, I'm
talking to some posts yesterday off to match up in

(02:53):
about a week's time, you know, voter rolls and the
white not to get into the weeds and any of
the stuff, but to basically try to figure out with
early voting, was that a net plus for Democrats? Is
that a net plus for Republicans? How it all shakes out.
But it's obviously contesting to see you know that there
was a I think substantial underselvent significant interest in this

(03:19):
election in that state just on day one alone.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, and don't worry about going in the weeds. We
like weeds here, so so don't worry about that at all.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Let's talk about Kamala Harris for a minute.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
When when she got in it seemed like she was
running a version of Joe Biden's basement campaign. Even though
she seemed to be visible, nobody could ask her a question.
And then it seemed like it wasn't working. And then
she did this media tour with more what she perceived
were favorable places. And today she's going to do an
interview somewhere else that I won't mention right now, but

(03:54):
she's going to do an interview at a place that
is maybe not perceived as so favorable. Is is this
a sign that they think that her team thinks she's losing?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So look yes, I mean, look, she's gone on Fox
News at six o'clock today, right, and that would have
seemed improbable just a few weeks ago. There's stories out
there that her team might be talking with Joe Rogan,
obviously the number one podcast in the world. But you
know how the White House and and the Left viewed
Joe Rogan just a few years ago. Right, she's doing

(04:24):
Fox News. The fact that or I should say the
fact that the possibility that maybe there's the potential that
that she does Joe Rogan, I mean, look in our
you know, according to DDHQ, which I would suggest to
check it out if you don't know about if they
do the probability of a person, you know, winning a race.

(04:46):
She had it up to fifty five percent just a
couple of weeks ago. DHQ has been at fifty percent
in the last few days, so she's been moving downward.
Nate Silver has it at fifty percent today. Ddhd's kind
of been been well out in front on this, and
so she's if her chance of winning is dropping, and

(05:07):
now all of a sudden she's doing events that you
couldn't have imagined her doing just a month ago. What
does that tell you? Maybe her her team thinks that
there's something to this concept that there's a pullback from
her at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
The betting websites have been a little bit ahead of
the polling and a little bit ahead of those sites
you mentioned, way ahead of Nate Silver. And I'm not
saying betting websites are going to be right, but even
the website that has persistently had the odds that are
most favorable to Harris. And these are not set by bookies.

(05:42):
These are set by people training against each other. Now
has Trump in the lead as far as probability of winning,
And I'm curious, Actually this is sort of more of
a macro question. How do you think about betting odds?
Do you think they are predictive or do you think
they are more like just a different version of people
cheering for who they like.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't put any stock into it.
Here's here's what I would Here's what I would say.
There's a clear trend line in the last couple of
weeks of Donald Trump picking up, picking up momentum of
at least the court of the polls now all points
in time. What you look at with poles is what happened,

(06:23):
what's happening now, what's happened in the past. Is this
just a moment in time or is this a trend?
One of the things that you'll have to I think
will tell the essential story or one of the main
storylines of this race. When we know in a few
weeks time who the winner is. He's last few undecided voters.
If you think it's one percent, two percent, three percent,

(06:45):
somewhere in there. Donald Trump is a known commodity. You
either love him, you hate him, You like some of him,
you hate some of him. But he is known. I
don't know if there's anyone in this country at this
point in times who doesn't know who Donald Trump is.
With Kamala Harritt, it's a much different story. Yes, she
is the sitting vice president, Yes she is a Democratic
comedy for president, but her you know who is Kamala Harris?

(07:10):
What is she saying for a lot of voters are
still trying to figure that out. And I think one
of the storylines to be told when this is all
said and done, is that that final one two three
percent who saying you know what, I'm still not sure
about her when they go into the voting booth. Do
they end up voting for her or do they skip
the top top of the ticket and just go down ballance.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I think you're absolutely right, and I think that's I
think that's great analysis. And I'll add something that is
it's not the same as that, but it's related to that.
Americans love voting for change, and we do it almost
all the time, even if the change is just changing
back to whoever the to whichever the previous party was.

(07:50):
This is the most difficult presidential election at least of
my lifetime and probably much longer than that to be
to say which candidate is the change candidate?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I mean, you know Donald. The thing about about
Trump he is, you know, he's floating all these ideas
and all these policies out there. He has a record.
You might like the record, you might hate the record.
But he has a record right of four years in
office with him at the top of the with with
with him sitting behind the resolute desk in the White House.

(08:25):
And so no matter what Trump says about what he
may or may not do going forward, we'll see if
he wins. We'll see if he does it. The last
time he tried to accomplish a lot of what he said.
But you can at least go off of a record again.
You might like it, you might hate it. You might
be somewhere in the middle. With Harris, you know, she

(08:47):
the other day was asked on The View and then
followed up a similar question on Colbert what would you
do differently than Joe Biden? And she couldn't answer that question.
And that's the problem for her, or one of the
problems for her at this point in time is how
do you distinguish yourself from a presidency in which you know,

(09:11):
seventy percent of the country says it's on the wrong track.
Joe Biden is underwater. Now. Donald Trump's savability numbers aren't
great either, right, But that's sort of the issue for
Kamala Harrison. Why generally it's so hard for for vice
presidents to ascend the top.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
We're talking with Blake Berman. That's b you are m
an if you're looking him up.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
He is the.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Moderator of The Hill, which airs on News Nation at
four pm Mountain time, six pm Eastern. He's also the
chief Washington correspondent for News Nation. And Blake's been around
news a long time. And Blake, I would call you
an actual journalist, which I would not call me.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I would like to ask you about this new
Gallup poll that shows, you know, I'll just read the
act headline, the percentage of Americans who say they have
a great deal or fair amount of trust in the
in the mask media has fallen to a record low,
according to a new Gallup survey. And so that impacts you,

(10:13):
it impacts me. It impacts people who are my friends,
and it impacts the country.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
If you don't trust.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
The people who are supposed to be telling you the news,
that's bad for everybody.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
How do you react to this trend, not just this
news story?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
And what do you think the industry Probably a little
more your industry than mine, though they're close to each other.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Canon should do.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Look, I'll just speak to what I do and to
what our show does, which is for that both sides,
and talk about both sides and hear from both sides.
You know where you can go if you have a
certain team. You know where that that team is in
a very vast media landscape, and you know where you

(11:00):
can go to feel comfortable and raw raw oacheam go.
That's not what I do. That's not what we do. Again,
as I said off the top, I still think as
a pretty big part of this country that is in
the middle and just wants to learn about what's going
on and what the issues are and what's coming out

(11:22):
of Washington and what it means or what it doesn't mean.
And that's sort of how I view it, how I
attack it, and what we do.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So I agree with all that, and you haven't been
on with me before, but Clomo has been on with
me a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Leland's been on with me a lot. Some of your
other folks have been on with me.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And my listeners have heard me say many times that
News Nation is the cable network Kristen and my wife
and I watched the most by far for exactly the
reason that you said. And I also think, I also
think the fact that I know that if I want
to hear cheering for the Republicans, I can watch Fox primetime,

(12:03):
and if I want to hear cheering for the Democrats,
I can watch CNN and MSNBC primetime. The fact that
I know that, I think is exactly why there's so
little trust in mass media because Americans, in their hearts,
even if they do have a team somewhere, they understand
that that shouldn't really be the role of people who

(12:23):
are holding themselves out as journalists. And I and I
applaud you and everybody at News Nation for actually doing
what journalists are supposed to do.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. I mean, look, I
was at the White House for for four years, every
single day, you know, minus a two days of COVID
during the Trump administration, and I you know, like I said,
there's real issues, real questions, And you know, if you're
going to ask the tough questions to Donald Trump, you
gotta ask the tough questions to Joe Biden or Kamala

(12:56):
Harris and vice versa and Noboddy. You know, if you
stand on the leg of this is an issue, this
is policy, This is important, this matters. And why is
one side saying this or why is one side saying that?
You know, I think you're I think you're playing in
the right lane.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Last question for you, Blake, if if you had to
bet on it, which party do you think will control
the House of Representatives next next year?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
That is seems like a I mean, look it's it's
Republicans have what depending on the day, it's two three,
four seat advantage. I forget what the actual number is
that somewhere in there.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, the Senate.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
When you talk to people here in Washington, both sides,
they're convinced that the Senate will go republic will will
flip Republican. The House isn't awesome. If I had to bet,
I would It's so close to begin with, and I
mean you're talking about four hundred and thirty five feet,
three weeks left to go. You know, I reference DHD.

(14:01):
I think DHQ has it a fifty three percent Republicans,
but that number has been coming down. I think it
was like, you know, sixty something, sixty three maybe a
month or so ago. So the trend line has been
favoring Democrats, but only one party gets it's across the
finish line, and it just feels like it's gonna be
Razor type where in the other sea.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, I think so too, And we don't we don't
have time to talk about it today, but I'll just
note to listeners that who especially if Donald Trump wins
I guess, and the Senate goes Republican, the party that
controls the House, it's gonna make it's gonna make.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Such an enormous difference.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And if Democrats control the House, they're gonna make Donald
Trump's life hell.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Legislation won't get past.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's gonna be an entirely different thing, and it could
be based on literally like one seat one way or another,
and it's hard to describe just how important that's. That's
gonna be blake. You're you feel free to add to
that if you want to.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I got to jump here in a second. But yeah,
I mean, look like, no matter who wins the presidency,
it's why all all three branches matter. You know, if
if Trump wins and Republicans polls, you've got a full mandate,
or you know, you know, with the Senate and you've
got a full mandate. If not, there's questions about what
he can do. And if Harris wins, what happens if Democrats,

(15:23):
if Republicans control the Senate, all the varying combos and play.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Blake Berman is the moderator of The hill On News
Nation and four PM Mountain Time, Chief Washington correspondent for
A News Nation. Great to talk to you for the
first time, Blake. I look forward to having you back
on the show.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Nice to me to Thanks, great day you two

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