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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm so excited for this next conversation.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm gonna I'm gonna play this again, even though I
even though I played it a second ago, in case
you weren't listening ten minutes ago when I played it,
but just just to set the mood.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Can you fly this plane and land it? Surely you
can't be serious. I am serious, And don't call me Shirley.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
There has never Now I'm not the most movie expert guy,
but in my not so humble opinion, there has never
been a more quotable comedy than Airplane. So exactly right
that voice you hear, David Zucker, one of the great

(00:42):
brains behind Airplane, behind Naked Gun, Kentucky Fried.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Movie, on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And gosh, David, I I've just uh, it's been a
long time since I've looked forward to an interview this much.
And I was supposed to have you the other day
and I screwed it up. I'm very sorry for that.
Thank you for giving me another chance, Thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh yeah, you were the one I woke up early
and then you did that was me that was so irresponsible.
I can't believe I'm even speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I know, I can't believe it either.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
But I owe you a beer if I get the
chance to if I get the chance to see you.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
But let me that's fine. I look forward to that.
But let's get this over with now.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Okay, So you just answered the question before I asked it.
But the question is, are you as much of a
smart ass in a good way? Like snappy answers to
stupid questions from the old Mad magazine that I'm sure
you know?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Are you that way all day every day?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well only to the extent that I don't really take
anything seriously. Yeah, and I do a lot of improv
not on stage, but just you know, in restaurants and
when I'm when I'm meeting people, and I just I
just kind of naturally want to, you know, see if

(01:55):
I can get a laugh out of people. I mean,
always at their expense, not at me.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, you know, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I mean a common line in my house is Mom's
gonna go boil the roast again? And you know I
say on the show all the time. The foots on
the other hand, now, I mean, and I picked a
bad week to quit amphetamines, Like, dude, how how did
you come up with so so many lines in a

(02:22):
relatively small number of movies that everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
How'd you do that?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Well? I think we kind of naturally think that way.
It's not that, you know, comedy writing is a nine
to five job for us. We just, you know, we
just always lived that way, just thinking of what the
what the takedown would be, what the funny line would be,
and we just kind of got to thinking that way,
I mean, even ever since high school. And then we

(02:50):
for Airplane, we watched this very serious movie called Zero Hour,
which is nineteen fifty seven black and white movies flying
movie and had the same plot, and we thought, oh,
this would be great to redub this, and then we said,
wait a minute, why redub it? Why why not just
remake it with you know, serious actors, And that's really

(03:12):
how airplanes are. And in Zero Hour there was actually
a line the guy said, in the air controlling room,
you know, it looks like I quit the r I
picked the wrong week to quit smoking. And so we
use that in Airplanes and then every every scene after that,

(03:33):
we just upped the ante a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
By the way, there's also a book about this guys
that David and his brother Jerry and Jim Abrams wrote
called surely you can't be serious The True Story of
Airplane you know. Okay, So I'm guessing based on your
name that you're a member of the tribe and I am,
and I'm and I'm guessing your brother is, and I'm
guessing Abrams is too. But should I Is that right?

(03:56):
Are you guys all Jews?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're all Jews?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yes, okay, So my question for you is because there's
an immense tradition of Jews and comedy, just immense, and
I wonder if you think any of that is part
of the reason you are the way you are.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
It is, you know, for our comedy, but it but
we also love you know, Bob Hope, Steve Martin, Yeah,
you know, Robin Williams. These guys are brilliant guys, and
you know, just come come to it from another direction.
But sure, you know, Jewish humor is I guess there's

(04:35):
something in particular, and I guess, uh, you know, now
that you ask about it, I'm thinking about I don't
think about it a lot, but it's outsider humor. We
always feel like outsiders, I guess, so you know, And
and a movie like Zero Hour is populated all by
these you know, very white gentiles, and it's just it's

(04:56):
so wonderful to see the seriousness of it and we
can be kind of like, well, the March Fuzzers were
the same way, you know, very very outsider immigrant. Yeah, yeah,
that'll read my next book.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yes, we're talking with David Zucker, who is behind the
Airplane movies and the Naked Gun movies and Kentucky Fried
movie and so much more. All right, I got a
couple of other things I want to Oh, oh well,
let me just mention. I mentioned this before you came
on the show, but I want to mention again. David,
along with Robert Hayes, who played Ted Striker in Airplane,
are going to be at the Paramount Theater in Denver

(05:30):
on November two, which is a week from Sunday special
screening of the movie, and then they're.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Going to talk. I assume you're going to take some
questions from the crowd.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
David, absolutely, We're going to do a Q and A
on stage with you know, with a Q and A
prison I guess they call them. And then then we're
going to take questions and generally have fun. And these
are these are just great. It's it's so fun and
I'm kind of a frustrated stand up comedian anyways, But
so this is my chance.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
So folks, if you go to take a master dot
com and just type in airplane, I'm sure you'll find it.
But like I said, a week from Sunday at the
Paramount Theater in Denver, Now I would like to understand David.
I would like to understand David Zucker's Master Crash.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Tell me about this.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Oh well, you know, other people have been trying to
do this kind of humor, and it's not that we're
so amazing, but we do we you know, we have
a lot of experience doing it, and we learned over
fifty years how to do it. And you know, the
people just this little past year tried to do naked

(06:39):
gun for and they didn't know what they were doing, so,
you know, it kind of ruined the franchise. So I
was motivated to start this thing called Mastercrash dot com
and I'm teaching. We have fifteen rules and most of
most of things are what not to do, and Jerry
and Jim and I always avoided mistakes by sticking to

(07:02):
these rules. And nobody knows about them, certainly not the
people who are trying to do this kind of movie.
So we're doing that. And so I'm ending up teaching
a online course in comedy and I have personal interaction
with students. They can ask me questions and it's so
much fun.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Where did the rules come from? Did you divine them.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Based on working in movies for a long time and
saying this works and this doesn't, and we're going to
make it a rule.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah? Yeah, basically it started. You know, we start We
had a show in Los Angeles on Pico Boulevard in
West LA called Kentucky Fry Theater and we ran a
show called My Nose. Just so are weekly listening in
the La Times calendar section would say my Nose runs continuously.
And so we had our first preview and this one

(07:53):
friend of Jim's came in and he was a comedy
writer and he said, yeah, I love the show, but
you know in this one sketch you were doing a
joke on a joke And we said, what's that? Because
we had never considered that there were there was any
discipline to it, and it was our comedy was and
it worked, but it was anything goes. So that became

(08:14):
our first rule, and then over the next ten or
so years, we evolved you know, fourteen other rules, including
the fifteenth rule, which is there are no rules. So
so you know, and I love I love being in
comedy and I love you know, doing it, living it,
the whole thing, and especially doing these q and as

(08:37):
it's it's fun and this is this is kind of
what I do for a living, and I don't feel
that I'm working.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
We're talking with David Zucker, who is a film writer, director, producer.
He's behind Kentucky Fried movie, An Airplane and Naked Gun
and Police Squad and a couple of the scary movie movies.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Don't forget BASEketball and.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Basketball of course nineteen ninety eight, right.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Base Kipball, base Kipball.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, Hey, Rod, my producer who you talked to for
a moment, loves loves basketball.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Okay, so you did. You got Kentucky Fried.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Movie made in nineteen seventy seven, and the first movie
is usually a harder one to make. But I was
kind of I was wondering, was it difficult for you
to get Airplane made?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Because there I.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Don't think there was anything like it I still don't
think there's anything like it other than your other movies.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So what was what was that like?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, tremendously difficult. We wrote the script in nineteen seventy five,
oh and we couldn't get financing for it, and it
was only like a two or three million dollar movie,
but we couldn't raise the money. So John Landis came
to see the show one night and so, why don't
you guys do a movie of your show, of the
Kentucky Friede Theater show. And so that was the idea

(09:56):
for Kentucky Fride Movie, which was consistent of like twenty
two separate sketches. There was no plot, and it was
a very low budget with six hundred thousand, and the
thing made twenty million, so we were very profitable. And
we went back to the same people who financed Kentucky
Fied Movie and said, well, now we have the script

(10:16):
called Airplane and we want to do that. And the
guy read it and said, well, no, I want to
do Kentucky Fied movie too, So you know, we don't
want to do sequels and do the same thing. So
finally Michael Eisner of Paramount read the script to Airplane
and he thought there was a possibility, so we landed
at Paramount and that was completely That's how we got

(10:39):
Airplane made unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
All right, I've got a few listener questions.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
The listeners have texted in some questions, David, have you
ever been in a Turkish prison?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I believe it or not. I have gotten that question before,
and only one and it was only for a short time,
and I didn't have sex with any minute. I don't
like to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
How did you come up with what's the character's name? Anyway?
What do you make of this?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I can make a hat or a broach or a pterodactyl,
which is.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
An amazing line. Johnny right as Johnny Johnny Johnny.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Steve Stucker, who in our Kentucky Bride Theater show in
the seventies was our piano player and he was hilarious
on stage. And in one sketch and this came out
of improv, one character says, Johnny, what can you make
out of this? You know, some kind of paper or something,
and he was, well, I can make a hat, and
he just came up with us. In addition to in

(11:38):
the in Airplane, when Stucker is answering the questions of
the reporters. He wrote all those lines. We did not
write those.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We actually when we were writing the script, we called
Steve on the phone and said, Steve, we want you
to play this air controller and you're going to be
doing a presconference. Here are the questions. He said over
the phone, exactly what is in the movie.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
We just wrote it down, same thing as the Black
dudes wrote their all their.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Dialogue because we didn't know how the guys who speak give.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, guys who's fully speak give. And they also wrote
you know, Barbara Billings leaves lines and taught her fonetically
how to do it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Oh my gosh, that's incredible. I wish I had another
hour with you. I've got about a minute with you,
so I'm I think I'm going to make this my
last question somewhat broad one. I would like you to
say anything you want to tell us about Leslie Nielsen.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh. You know, we hired him to do that part
because we thought he had no sense of humor at
all from you know, dozens of movies and TV appearances.
And it turns out he was a prankster and he
would bring he brought to the set this this heart machine,
and he would use it. And you know, and because

(13:02):
people always thought he was this serious, respectable actor and
he would just do these part noises. He did it,
you know, on elevators everywhere. So and that was that
was the thing with Leslie. He was, you know, always
a fun guy to be around.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
David Zucker, Seriously, I got to thank you so much
for just bringing so much joy to my life.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Airplane is the.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
By far the movie I quote the most weekly for sure,
and it's just I can't believe anybody had the had
the skill and the lunacy both to get that done.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
And I'm really grateful.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well I'm glad to hear you say that, and I'm
glad to have provided any last that I could. So
thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
David Zucker and Robert Hayes, who played Ted Striker in Airplane,
will be at the Paramount Theater a week from Sunday,
November second, a special screening of the movie and then
a Q and A with these guys, and go to
ticketmaster dot com to get your tickets. It's been an
absolute pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
David.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Thank you, sure, thank you, Bye bye bye. Oh my gosh,
that's one of my favorite interviews ever

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