11-03-25 - *FULL SHOW* Benjamin Allbright Filling In For Ross

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, the Ross text to be this morning and
told me, and I'm quoting here, don't wreck the nineteen
eighty eight Lamborghini kuntash. So he gets the bit. We've
already got people text to get on the text line
on that. I certainly appreciate that we have a fun
show today. Topics going to be all over the map
here a little bit. But we've got a couple of

(00:20):
guests from the Douglas County school Board that can come
in around ten thirty. Get a chance to talk to them.
So if you guys have questions, save those for about
ten thirty, put them on the text line. Matt Smith,
who's running in Steve Veilee both both going to be
on the show today, and any questions that you guys have.
I'm not a parent, so school board elections are not
exactly something that I've paid a ton of attention to.

(00:41):
My focus tends to be a little bit more on
the state level or national level when it comes to
when it comes to politics. But I want to be
your conduit to be able to ask questions on these
kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So if you guys have any, feel free to.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Text those in and we'll get to those five, six
sixty nine zero, of course is the text line this.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think you guys have got the announcement. It's out
there now.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Michael Brown gonna be taking over this time slot starting
next week, as Ross will be taking over the six
to nine with Ross and Geno will be doing that.
Geno'll be on five to six doing the and they
Shell join Ross from from six to nine and Michael
Brown will move into the United noon spot. So we
hope you guys will stick around here on KOA for
for that next week. As far as some things that

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I wanted to get to on this show, we're gonna
get into drones as the Pentagon ramps up it's by
and continues to despy on Americans. Honestly, with drones, it
bugs me a little bit my libertarian sensibilities. Maybe you
guys are okay with it, you can talk me into it.
We'll get into that here in a little bit. I
know I teased it when I was talking with Ryan
Schuling and Gina Goddak just a little bit ago. But

(01:45):
open relationships is something that I wanted to talk about
as well, and I don't like to normally get into
the TMZ side of things.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't really care about celebrity culture.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
In fact, I hate the way we're super saturated with
any inundated with celebrity gossip as a past time. It's just,
I mean, it's not my thing. If it's yours about judging,
it's just it's just not my thing. But I want
to talk for a minute about the this David Harbor
Lily Allen thing. For those of you who don't know
David Harbor probably know him. I mean, he's an actor.
He's been a lot of stuff. Uh, but you probably

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know him as Sheriff Hopper on Stranger Things. That's that's
his most prominent role. Was married to British singer Lily Allen. Uh,
you may or may not know her music. Smile was
a song that she did that was fairly popular here
in the States a few years back. And they they're
getting divorced and in these in these divorce filings, you know,

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it's come out that they had an open relationship, and
yet she's still accused David Harbor of cheating and that
that kind of like I was like, well, that seems
a bit oxymerotic to me, But I guess they had
their own boundaries within that that you could do certain
things that couldn't do certain other things. And Lily Allen
has now put out a musical album which is basically
just a tear down of her soon to be ex

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husband and naming the person that he allegedly violated whatever
boundaries and it. She went on a Halloween costume dressed
up as Madeline, who apparently is the first name of
this person, you know, as far as that goes, now,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't know David Harbor personally. I don't know Lili
Allen personally.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I know people that know David Harbor, and you know,
in his everyday life, he's he's supposed to be a.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Pretty nice guy.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know, It's gone out of his way to help
people before that, that kind of stuff, you know. But again,
we all know people that we think are nice guys
and then they are nice people and then they have
scandal or whatever attached to all that. But my, I guess, my,
I guess where I come down on this or where
I've been circling the drain on this is the whole
the concept of can you cheat in an open relationship?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
But I guess if you have some specific.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Boundary in there, that's not to be crossed, and then
I guess you can.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But I've done that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I've done mostly traditional relationships. I've got an open relationship before.
It has its own unique set of challenges. I didn't
particularly have any issues within the confines of that, but
I don't and I guess I wonder from you guys
as we as we look at this thing, because we're
in undated. This is this is at the top of
everybody's feed right now on the algorithm. You kind of

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get shoveled this into your face a little bit. And
I don't want to dwell out it too long, but
I'm trying to put it out to the listeners here
in the sense in a way that makes sense, and
that is that, is it open relationship something A you've
ever done or B would consider? And if so, what
would be your your hard limits on that? So five
six six nine zero, And I'd love to get you

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guys's thoughts on that. I Regular relationships are tough, tough enough,
you know, without adding those things. One of the most
fasting things is somebody who's out there dating, you know,
those kinds of things. And yeah, you find a lot
of women this it's just tough to find.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's tough. Relationships are tough. Yeah, they're all tough.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
If you're lucky in life, you get one relationship that works.
If you're lucky right, you get one successful relationship.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
If everything works out, you get.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
One successful relationship out of however many times that you're
out there up at the bat.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'll swinging on those things.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So that to me, and I again, I don't pass
judgment on whatever relationship dynamics you have. Whatever is done
between consenting adults is done between consenting adults. I don't care.
And I'm sure that you know mine. My choices would
be eyebrow raising to some probably you know when it
comes to that. I can see Shannon's eyebrows right now
back there behind the glass and they're both raised.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I didn't know he could even make that face, but
but he's doing it.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
So I'm just curious as to the dynamics on that
you know, and and what your hard limits are in
a relationship.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, most people have just some fairly, but all
are basic hard limits.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Don't cheat, right, But if you're in an open relationship,
I'm trying to think of that the mental gymnastics that
you sort of have to get yourself into in that
particular case to justify creating a music album talking about
someone else's infidelity in an open relationlationship. And for those

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of you, because I got two of you asking here,
what an open relationship is? Uh, that is a relationship
where you are each other's primary partners, but you are
still allowed to uh, you know, sleep with whomever you
want or you know, those kinds of things. So uh
for those for those that are asking, because we we
have some of that, uh.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Sebatu us is open relationship?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
For for the morally week at low self esteem people,
I would I would disagree with that, but I hey,
if that's your that's your opinion on that's your opinion
on it.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I don't think that. I think morality is relative.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
What you may consider moral, I may not consider moral,
and vice versa. And I would say that I don't know, Shannon,
you've known me a while. Would you say that I
have low self esteem? Shannon's back, they're laughing right now. Yeah,
if anything, I get accused to the opposite of that.
You know, I don't think that I that I have
low self esteem. So we'll get into some of that

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stuff throughout the show.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
As well.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I I just kind of it's one of those things
that's I can't square and so putting it out to
you guys to help me square it and get there
five six six nine zero, Ben, don't wreck the go kart. Yeah,
I'm gonna do my best. I'll do my best not
to today. We'll see, we'll say we go Ross getting
in on the bit though. You gotta love that with
the don't rector Lamborghade. I love the fact that this
has become like a signature bit. The couple of people

(07:22):
asking about ac DC, Yeah, I saw, I saw euc DC. Gosh,
it's been twenty years now, feels like it was the
last year.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
A year before.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
If it's been twenty years, I think that was the
last time I saw them, and they put on a
phenomenal show back then. I don't know what twenty years
does to it does to them.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
At this juncture.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
But they could Angus Young was was could play.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean they could still, they could sing. It was.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It was a great, high energy show, a lot of
fun up there in the concerts. In my top twenty
con I've been to a lot of concerts, of course,
in my top twenty though, it was a fun, high
energy show.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
They played the hits.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
It wasn't you know, like we're all trying to push
the new stuff that nobody, nobody wants to hear.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
So that's, you know, that's a that is a good
a good show.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Three h three. Let me know to find Ross and
Mandy's ballot choices. I tried to access it but can't
find them. I don't have those, but I will tell
you that both the candidates that are coming in I
believe are on Ross's preferred candidacy. He helps set all
that out. So the people that are coming in, I
believe they're on Ross's thing. But what I will endeavor
to do for those of you who want that, I

(08:27):
will try to find that out. And of course Mandy
Connell's going to be in later around noon, and I'll
get a chance to ask her about.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That as well, So so we get that for you guys. Four,
I don't wreck the big wheel.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Hey, Ken, I'll try my vest. Let's see Ross Linda
College bash. She wishes she had a job where she
could take a vacation every day. Last few days where
I can listen to you and you're not even there. Well,
I'm sorry to disappoint but Ross will be back and
of course in the new time slot next week, the
seven to two. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get to your

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text because that's what we're going to get to here
is uh, we'll get to these drones, this drone story
here in just a minute. We got to hit a
break and I want to get into just how far
into the surveillance state we have actually gotten.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You're listening to Russimitski show, you're on K but.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
All right here filling in for Ross Commandski. A lot
of your texts coming in. We'll get to some of
that in a second. But I do want to shout
out and thank this seven to two Oho said. Ross
has his elect election recommendations up on his x account,
So if you're if you're on Twitter, you can go
to uh it's Ross butten R O S S P
U T I N. No relation to Vladimir Putin. It's
more of a Mikhael Rasputin reference. But you can go

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there and he's got his election recommendations there and and
you guys can get those. So for those of you
that we're asking there a couple of you, you can
do that. There are a lot of texts coming in
during the break on the the open relationship thing. So
I guess we'll push the drones off to the next
segment because that's a that's a bit of a bigger bite,
and I want to talk about some of this here.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
There's several of you that.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Say that you're opening the idea, but the idea of
human logistics gets in the way, and I, from personal experience,
I would say that's probably the case. Sabatosa is Unfortunately
I fall in love with people, become human and get jealous. Logistically,
I feel like I should be fine with it, but
in reality, I don't think I could handle it, and and.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Not everybody can.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
And that's not that's not a judgment on anybody, you know.
I I, like I said, I've done both. I It's
just it's fascinating to me sort of the fallout from
this David Harbor Lilly Allen thing that you know, and
I sort of wonder where the boundaries are for different
people in these things. And honestly, it's a it's a

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heat check to find out if I'm the weird one,
which I probably am at the end of the day.
But you know, in my own in my own life
that my are my boundaries odd, which I mean no
judgment on myself or anyone else for the boundaries, but
I just sort of wonder about those kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Uh three Zho seven.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Can you explain the point of a relationship if you're
going to keep it open just date without the relationship time.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, I think, and I can't speak for everybody, but what.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I will say is I think there's a there's a
component to it that is, we all want that home base,
we all want that partner, we all want that other person.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
That we can rely on. But maybe some of us
are difficult people.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Maybe some of us are have different demands in our lives,
those kinds of things, and so you know, maybe it's
tough for just one person to.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Satisfy all all aspects of that.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You know, maybe you have somebody that's that's a great
partner and a great friend, but you're not sexually compatible.
Maybe there's time constraints if one of you works some
job or something else, and so there's there's there's different
aspects of.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
The companionship part of that.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And you know, whether you agree or not, I mean,
you know, human beings, you know, as a whole sort
of sort of have that, and so yeah, I think
there are aspects of that that are that are worth
exploring from the intellectual curiosity sake. Now, if you're in
a if you're understood to be monogamous and you're in
a monogmous relationship, then obviously you know that that's your
your primary and get you're trying to make that work.

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My experience with both is that they're they're insanely difficult
to make work, and in any event, you need an
inordinate amount of communication in order to try to make
any of it work. Like I said before, if you
are extremely lucky, you have one successful relationship that works
in your life as far as that kind of stuff goes. So,

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you know, I just when it comes to this, I
think there's there's stigmas attached to an.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Open relationship can mean anything.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It can mean a virtually monogamous relationship where there's there's
occasional you know, sexual relations allowed outside of it. It
can mean full on polyamory, it can mean swinging like that.
And that's where I think the stigma gets attached for
some people when it comes to those kinds of things.
As far as I know, we're the only species that
that attaches morality to sex, certainly in the animal kingdom.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I don't recall seeing.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Attaching morality to that, not that we could necessarily know,
but I mean, you know, do animals have a sense
of morality when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's probably a larger, more existential question. Nine seven. No,
no open relationship for me.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
But there's one exception, and that's for each person's celebrity crush.
So like a hall pass, if the celebrity crush option
came up and then you had got here.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
But I mean, like if you were at.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
A full low monogamous relationship and that thing ever happened,
and listen, because it's such a far fetched thing, like
you think about it in far fetched terms when you're
joking about it. But if that thing actually happened, wouldn't
almost everyone I know would get really jealous.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
And I'm not, by nature a very jealous person. I'm
just not. I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I never have that.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I don't have that mechanism. But I've certainly seen where
people can be two and four. Maybe no morality involved,
but common sense, no instinctive knowledge of human nature. Now
see there. We're probably tracking there. You know, I think
human nature.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Is too.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Is to say hey, I'm open, I'm cool, we can
you know whatever, and then eventually you sort of spiral
down to the jealousy thing as feelings get involved, or
or there's a an equal sense of investment in the relationship,
those kinds of things. Seven to two oo oh Ben,
open relationships you and yuck.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Hey, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm sure there are things that you do that I
probably find gross, you know, Shannon oh Man, I don't
wish we had cameras in here. Sometimes Shannon Shannon won't
get on the mic. But I know I'm not passing
judgment on you for the things you do, and I like,
I'm not saying I'm not always you know, open relations
are a thing I've done. I'm not doing that now.

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I'm out there trying to date now, So you know,
I just kind of I just kind of sit there
and take these situation as it comes and try to
try to figure that out and go from there and
be the best that I can be for somebody else.
I mean, I I've I've failed miserably in my life
before as well.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I've you know, I.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't want to get it too personal on some aspects
of that. I think some of you know, but I
tried to. I just try to be the best person
that I can be, even whatever you know, and be
adaptable to whatever environment that person needs and go from there.
And I just I don't know. I find the conversation fascinating.
I hope you guys, I hope you guys do as well.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Seven one nine.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Then if Michael Brown is moving in the spot, go
ahead and wreck the fourth panel Van no Man.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I like Mike. My first time I met Michael Brown
was when.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I was I was in the army doing a good
train of relief. He was, he was down there. We
met a long time ago in a totally different circumstance
and then came full circle back here.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
So I like Mike. He's he's a he's a good dude.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I got a lot of your questions to get to,
as well as the drone stuff we're gonna get to
as well in the next seg We've got the school
board stuff coming up next hour.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Rosskaminski show bench of it. I'll bright Philly it.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
We'll be back with the message in terms of some
of this open relationship we're gonna gt to the drone
stuff and get off that topic here in just a minute.
But I really I just want to hear you guys
thoughts on it more than more than anything else. I'm
certainly not trying to talk anyone to do getting in
to win open relationship. And quite a few of you
are not along, not along those lines. Several of you

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getting in on the bit. Don't write the matchbox card
to right the winnermobile love that stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Seven twos is my.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Future ex wife was going to suggest an open marriage,
I would have said no, if we can gross.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I'm sure some people think it's cool and edgy, but
they're idiots, all right.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
This is as simple as one of your cake and
eating it. Two the three or three birds made for life?
Not all birds, but some do. Songbirds stay pretty serial,
serially monogamous. Whooping cranes, eagles, penguins usually do long term
like that. But you can find some that that are

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only monogamous for for a breeding season and they'll find
a new partner the next year. Some of them are
life long. And I'm just like this, I guess you're right,
I mean, you are tically right. And then birds do
made flesh. I guess that that is an animal show.
That an animal that does that?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Benjamin.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I think, I really think a show with Ross and
you you would be the best show on planet Earth.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I would love to hear your conversations on air. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You should see our text conversations. That's all save about that.
Ross Ross is a good phrase, good dude, And I
genuinely enjoy intelligent people with differing perspectives.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Why I enjoy talking at Ross?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Why I enjoy talking to it to riot Shuling who
sometimes fills in here as well.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
It is over on o kay, how I always enjoy
you know.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
One one bit of advice that's stuck with me was
surround yourself with smart people with with who disagree with
you or have different perspectives.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I love that.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
I love being challenged. I love having those kinds of conversations.
Some of you did not like this this topic this morning.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
One of you, the seven to two oh found me
insufferable and just turning me off.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I thank you forgiving me a try. Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I do want to get into this drone stuff, so
we'll uh, we'll do that. But I just it was
is interesting to read some of your h some of
your comments on, you know, on the open relations stuff
in the wake of the David Harbor the Lealan thing.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
And again I don't I don't like to.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Do TMZ type topics and things like that, but I
do enjoy getting other people's perspectives on this, especially on
something that's kind of got me befuddled a little bit.
How are you You're getting a divorce for cheating in
an open relationship? And that's that one has certainly stuck
with me. I want to get into the drone stuff
because on the one hand, I have I have been

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in favor of increasing our drone inventories from a military standpoint. However,
I am concerned about the emergence and use of drone
technology within our own borders with civilian law enforcement application,

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and we can get into get into a little bit
of this. I did have a text or text in
about that, and and I was I think the three
H three who had a friend who was a retired
ranger and had his own blog on it, and.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
He wanted to get into the discussion on this. So
I do want to get into this.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
So the Pentagon right now is planning to acquire thirty
thousand small, low cost drones in the coming months, and
that's as part of an aggressive new initiative to expand
US domestic drone production and streamline military curement. That effort
is being driven by the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE,
as you guys probably commonly know it, and the move

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was reported by Reuters and it cited depending on officials
and others familiar with the plan, They claim that DOZE
is coordating a major push to source specs from across
the DoD, the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and
the Defense Innovation Unit and rapidly build a catalog of
and these would be US made drones. The idea here

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to reduce red tape, shift production away from platforms that
depend on Chinese components, you know, stick with the video
things like that. According to Reuter's DOS's team, which is
led by former Marine and Goldman Sachs Trader Owen West,
is preparing to submit a report to the Office of
the Secretary of Defense and they'll outline the scale and
timeline of this program, which follows Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath's

(20:17):
July directive to assert US drone dominance and train combat
units for what he calls the era of drone war
and then drone warfare. That's where we are. I mean,
any of you who have paid attention specifically to the
situation in Ukraine will know that Ukraine is surviving and
sort of winning an attrition war because of the mass

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use of drones that they've been able to do. Mass
produced drones cost only a few thousand dollars and they
become pretty decisive in that battlefield. The Pentagon does have
some pretty sophisticated models already, m Q nine Reaper, the
r Q four Global Hawk, but he has lacked the

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capacity to produce cheap, expendable do drones at industrial scale,
where Russia and Ukraine deployed tens of thousands of small
UAVs every month. Right, they're sort of ahead of us
in the in the mass.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Usage.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Ukraine for examples, that has plants to manufacture four point
five million first person view drones in twenty twenty five,
and some of the companies that are positioned to benefit
from that are companies like Red Cat Holdings, PDW and Skydio.
Who is who I want to talk about here, Skydeo
has You may know their name if you follow along

(21:34):
with the with the drones stuff, they've they were heavily
tied with Israel and the Gaza area, and over the
last eighteen months, almost I mean many large American cities
have signed contracts with Skydio. Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Diego, Cleveland, Jacksonville.

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Skyutio drones were recently used by city police departments to
gather information at these with these called these No Kings protests,
getting faces and creating databases that were used at Yale
to spy on Palestadian.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Protests and Israeli protests.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
In Miami, Scudio drones are being used to spy on
spring breakers in Atlanta. The company has partnered with the
Atlanta Police Foundation to install a permanent drone station within
the massive new Atlanta Public Safety Training Center. Detroit spent

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three hundred thousand on fourteen Skydio drones, according to a
city procurement report. ICE bought an X ten Scudio drone,
which automatically tracks and pursues a target. US Customs and
Border Protection bought thirty three of the same drones in July.

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For those of you who don't know, the AI system
behind Scudio drones is powered by Nvidia chips, which we're
here enables their operation without a human user, and.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
This is where it starts to get scared for me.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
The drones have thermal imaging cameras and can operate in
places where GPS doesn't.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Work, so GPS denied environments.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
They also reconstruct buildings and other infrastructure in three D
and can fly at more than thirty miles per hour. Basically,
these things don't need a human operator. New York Police
were early adopters of Scudio drones. They are particularly enthusiastic
users if you're looking for positive reviews. New York Police
spokesman recently told Drone News website that the New York

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PD launched more than twenty thousand drone flights in less
than a year, which, if you do in the math
with me and the drones being launched around the city
about fifty five.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Times per day.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
City report last year said that the NYPD at that
time was operating forty one Scydio drones. The recent FAA
authority rule change means that number will undoubtedly have incre
east and more generally underpins the sort of massive expansion
in the use of these things. Prior to March of
this year, FAA rules meant the drones could only be

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used by US security forces if the operator kept the
drone in sight line of sight right.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
They also couldn't be used over crowded city streets.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But in March, an FAA waiver opened the floodgates and
allowed police and security agencies to operate drones beyond a
visual line of sight and over large crowds of people.
Skydio called the waiver groundbreaking, and of course it was
the changes ushered in a drone buying spree by US
police and security forces, with many employing what is called
a drone as a first responder program.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Without the need to see the drones. With the drones
free cruise over the streets, police.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Are increasingly sending drones before humans to call outs and
for broader investigative purposes. Cincinnati, for example, says that by
the end of this year, ninety percent of all callouts
will be serviced first by a skydiod drome. And that
is shocking to me. That is I mean, like, Cincinnati

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is saying that of their callouts, their first responder is
going to be a drone.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Do you feel sufficiently safe with that?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
The ninety percent of dispatch calls are going to be
a drone? Does a drone have the ability to effectively
and capably respond in those situations? What is its decision
making matrix if there's not a human operator behind it?

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Five six sixty nine zero is the text line.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
This bothers me.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
We already live in a bit of the surveillance state,
and I, you know, my libertarian sensibilities doesn't particularly care
for that.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't like the idea.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
I got the only ticket I've had since I was
seventeen years old on traffic get ahead was a camera
and an intersection paying to me for going through a
red light. I was making a right hand turn out
of the right hand lane after having come to a
complete stop. It was not me blowing through an intersection.
And I still ended up having to pay the court fee,
even though I was completely cleared. Their photos showed I

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was doing exactly what I said I was doing, I
still had to go pay a court fee. I had
to go pay a fee for not doing anything. And
so you know, these I hope that these situations, these mechanisms,
camera things have some sort of efficacy to them that
my personal experience is that they really haven't been.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
And I definitely.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Am intrigued but at the same time apprehensive about the
idea of.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Drone first responders.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
In terms of emergency services first responders.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
What what is it?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
What to go back to my earlier question, what is
our What is that drone's decision making matrix?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Your first respond to? Is shots fire to sending.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
A drone out instead of instead of live action.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
I'm sitting there bleeding out.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
The drone can't patch me up, So it's so this
creates a delay where it is now sending back signal
to some human operator in a bunker somewhere who's got
to then determine that we need to send the ambulance out.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Did that just delay my medical services? What if that?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You know, there's there's a ton of questions in here
that start to get into the I don't like this
portion of that.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Nine Can you spell the name of that drone?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
The brand I was talking about, Skydeo is skyd Io.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Nine seveno.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
People are just gonna shoot those things out of the air. Yeah,
that's that's probably where you're going.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Now. I do agree with this one. It does make
sense to have.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
A drone be a first responder for an active shooter situation.
But You're right, it does not make any sense for
a victim that is in need of medical attention. And
then this starts begging questions, ethical questions. Is the drone armed?

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Do we want that? Do we want? Do you want.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Drones policing over our skies? Already? I guess I lived
in sort of an antiquated sense of.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Wanting a sense of privacy even when I'm in public,
But that's so bygone these days.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
With cameras everywhere, it would be naive of me to
think that.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I have any expectation of privacy walking anywhere anymore except
inside my own home, although if these drones have thermal imaging,
which they do, do I even have an expectation of
privacy in my own home If you've got to, if
you've got to Siri or Alexa or the Google, you

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don't have privacy in.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Your own home.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
They're actively listening. All smart devices are actively listening. You
signed you read those.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Terms of service.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
You're signing for it five six six nine zero. Text
line seems torn on it? Three or three says what
do you think of the recent story of flock cameras
and the women in Littleton being accused of theft of
a package. I'm not familiar with that story. If you
send me a link on it, i'd love to read it.
During the break, several of you getting to where I

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have been. Seven O Skynet has arrived. Judgment day is
not far off. I'm laughing, but I'm laughing out of
a sense of nervousness.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I don't uh now three things says one hundred percent
would be better get there in twenty seconds. I don't
uh are you saying that you one hundred percent agree
that the drones would would get there in twenty seconds
and would be a better thing. I'm confused about that.
I hope you you'll elaborate on it, because I genuinely
want to know. Three three says a torn on drone

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use I have one.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I totally see saving the response numbers and high numbers
of bogus are just wrong. Calls to the PEDI or
fire worried it will get out of control, and of
course it will.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Seven one nine. What's next?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
COVID era Chinese style robot guard dogs. Well, that's sort
of where I was going with that. Remember during during COVID,
Let's say, uh say you were outdoors at the beach.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
A guy that got arrested to the beach. You've got
a drone out here.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's policing for that while people are on the beach,
a drone to stop you or whatever. This goes back
to the other Texter. If that drone is armed, now
you're a public health risk. Like I'm playing this out
to the natural evolution of as far as it can go.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
For a reason.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Like where's where do we draw the line on that?
Is it simply observational? Does it need to have human
component behind it? Do you trust AI to make it
to effectively make those decisions? And that's what I'm trying
to challenge you, the listener with right now is those
questions where do you draw the line? What is the
line in the sand? Where are you okay with it?

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Are you okay with cameras at traffic intersections.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Are you okay with drones with thermal imaging? The conceit
inside your house with thermal imaging? Does it need to
have a human operator behind it for you to be
okay with it? Or are you okay with with a
programmed computer making those types of decisions?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I worked in technology for an extensive period of time.
I worked in extens I worked in technology for the
Department of Defense. I absolutely I'm not okay with that.
I've seen the misapplication nine s ofbo else is I'm
gonna laugh a little bit. If you're not breaking the
law or committing any crimes, you should not have to
worry about drones policing the city.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
If you're a criminal, you might want to be worried.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well, you know, that's one thing that people say on
those kinds of things until they get to whatever their
personal breaking point on that is, are you okay with
a drone taking thermal imaging of your home even if
you're not violating the law, But if you're just in

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a state of undress and somebody can see that thermal
image of you, you okay with that?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Drones and the AI technology uh out there, which are
you know, two separate things. But the AI technology in
this particular case, AI technology is only as good as
as the data inputs. It's only it's it's you know,
garbage in, garbage out. It's as good as what it culls.
Because AI is not in a sense it's it's adaptive,

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but it comes from what it is able to scrape
in terms of data. So whatever it gets as its
inputs is how well it's programmed.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Quite a few of you. Uh god, I love this audience.
You guys are funny. Seven to two zero nude beach, no drones,
hands off the eject button if I favorite one here?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Uh so the seven two I fully support drones being
used to monitor and force a monogamous for a relationship.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Oh three or three?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Oh okay, you're explaining this one hundred percent refers to the
eighty percent. I think you said drone for first responder.
One second after nine one one is picked up to
send drone. Have five over square miles police get there
in five minutes. I mean, on the one hand, I
can see here.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Here's the thing is is.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I see the helpful side of this in almost everything.
But my counterpuncher, my counterpoint is I've seen the misapplication
and how we take things too far with almost everything
we ever do. I say this to my political friends
all the time, and I've said it specifically to people
who are fans of the current administration. Never give yourself

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the power you would not want your political opponent to wield.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And that's the reason.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
One of the reasons I talk specifically or I have
talked specifically at length about some of the things that
the Trump administration is doing that I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Definitely not a fan of.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Would you want Barack Obama or Joe bid I didn't
have that same power because I don't think you do,
and vice versa.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
When Barack Obama was out here bailing out certain you
want which you want? You know, X, Y and Z,
George W.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Bush or you know at the time, but he would
you want Donald Trump to wield that same power?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I don't think you do. There's a there is.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
A an inherently human problem with taking things just a
little bit too far because we're the good guys, and
it's okay if we misuse something.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
And that's where I worry this where this thing could go.
Come up.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Bottom of the hour, We're gonna have a couple of
guys in from the Douglas County school Board elections. I
want you guys to get your your questions ready for that.
Benj went over right filling in for Roskaminski. We'll be
back right here on Kawa five six six nine zero
is the text line and bottom of the hour.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
We're gonna have a.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Couple of the candidates for the Douglas County school Board
come in here get a chance to uh to talk
to them. So if you guys have a questions for them,
feel free to get those ready on the on the
text line which is five six six nine zero, and
I will be happy to ask them for you. I
I don't have any children myself, so like I said earlier,
I don't necessarily pay attention to a lot of school

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board electoral type stuff, but I would love to be
you guys's conduit to help figure out and velp VET
some of these candidates that have responded, So looking forward
to looking forward to that to be Candidate Smith and
candidt Veiled, by the way, will be joining a Spawn.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Of the Hour in case you had to look those up.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Going back to what we're talking about about AI and drones,
in the last segment, one of the listeners had sent
in this case of this this woman Chrisanda Elser from
here in Colorado, and I'm reading up on this thing.
This is This is just fascinating because law enforcement agencies
have have touted the use of flock cameras to help

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crack major cases. They've stopped the stolen vehicle ring in
Adams County. Of course, you had the the tow truck
scam in Douglas County, solved the drive by shooting over
there in Aurora. So they've been they've been touting these
flock camera cases and the way they've been using these
things for a while. But Cossenna Elser has a much
different story about the use of flock cameras, and it

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starts with the first ring of her doorbell. Columbine Valley
Police Sergeant Jamie Millman said, you know why I'm here,
and this was captured on her own doorbell camera.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
She said she.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Already felt guilty in the eyes of the police. Melman said,
you know, we have cameras in that town. You can't
get a breath of fresh air in or out of
that place without us knowing, correct. And so it started
with an attempt to confirm whether Elser's truck, which was
a green Rivian, was the same vehicle seen driving through
the town of Bomar, and the escalation of the incident

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there on her porch, which escalated rather quickly, went right
into we have a video of you stealing a package.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
This is what they told her and.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Then showed her photos of her truck entering and leaving
Bomar and said that he had video of her committing
the theft. Elser Than asked to see the video, and
the officer applied, if you go to court, you can.
If you're going to deny it, I'm not going to
extend you any courtesy. Elso later found the theftity herself,
as posted on the social media site next Door. She said,

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when I saw it, I said, sure, it's far away,
somewhat the same silhouette, but nobody hopped into a truck,
and I think she was significantly younger than almost fifty.
She said. What happened next was even more concerning. That
it became her job to prove her innocence. I thought
it was supposed to be the other way around. On

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her doorstep, the officer issued a summons without ever looking
at the surveillans video that she had. She said, we
can show you exactly where we were, and the officer applied,
I already know where you were. To Elsher's credit, her Rivian,
equipped with multiple cameras, had recorded her entire.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Route that day.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
On September twenty second, I definitely drove through Beaumart and
went to my tailor, She said, two weeks of collecting
her own evidence, building timelines, submitting videos before someone finally listened. Finally,
she received an email from the Columbine Valley Police Chief
acknowledging her efforts at an email saying quote nicely done,
by the way, and informing her that the summons would

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not be filed. Elsa says she was lucky she had
the technology to prove her case. With flocked technology being
used across the metro area issue worries for people that don't.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
That is a fascinating.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Story and just goes to show like false positives with
these technologies. It sort of flips the scripts on something
that is constitutionally fundamental here and that you are in
ancient untel proven guilty and not the other way around.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I'm hung up on one thing on this story, and
it's probably something nobody else is. And here on the
Roskiminski Show, we are masters at I'm wasting that. That's
how I take my role at time wasting very seriously.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And we do appreciate the.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Text that did come in earlier this morning and it says,
thank you for wasting my time this morning. Uh, first
out of this morning as well. Ross would be so proud.
So here, I'm going to waste a little bit more
time on this.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Who has a tailor? Well, I mean I'm sheepishly raising
my hand here, seriously.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, you have somebody who tailor's I mean, yes, I
like my.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Suits to fit.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Okay, not that I wear them much anymore, but COVID,
I really because I used to be I think you
probably remember that I came in, but you know, when
I first met you, it was before COVID, right when
I first got hired here, and I used to wear
I used to be you were.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
The new Reggie McDaniel, you kind of Reggie Reggie's on
a whole nother level than you. Yes, but I mean
you were you were like the baby Reggie.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Got that fair fair.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
But I used to be a bit of a Yeah,
I was a bit of a natty dresser like I.
You know, I used to wear suits. I used to
wear a you know, a vest in a suit, and
you know, on a be fairly natty dresser. In post COVID,
I just went full slop. I was like, all right,
we're doing long sleeve T shirts. We got sweat pants
on I've given up.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I look holmeless.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I mean not necessarily all the time, but I you know,
like right now, I'm wearing you know, I'm wearing a
this is your uniform. I'm wearing swim pants in a yeah,
on a long sleeve T shirt. I don't I address
for comfort more now that I think than I used to.
I used to be a lot more, a lot more
professionally oriented than I to the radio industry. Hey, yeah,
they can't see me until they put the cameras in here.
They can't see me right then I'll have to go
back up and and do all that. But yeah, I yes,

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I have, I have where.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I could usually do. Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I don't buy off the suits necessarily off the right.
There's some clothes I'll buy off the rack, but I
don't buy suits off the rack.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Were we talking like a tailor as and you go
to the dry cleaners and say, hey, can you heymn
this a little bit?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Or are we to know I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
You go and they did mark you up, and they
did mark up the suit, and then they have to
you know, they they pull it in.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Or pull you know, I really posted my shirts shirts
pulled it in.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, even the wrong the wrong guy.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Literally, anyway, anybody else, anyone else on this station, we
would have been building.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Man, I'm the one guy sitting here like blowing up
your prem us here. But you're right, like, not many
people do anymore. So it's kind of a lost thing.
I was complaining about this the other day. We're uh,
I'm gonna go to my cobbler today. Okay, there's a
good one. That's that's fantastic. Who has time for a cobbler?
I don't have to have my I had a pair.
I've got some shoes. If you're familiar with Christian Lubatan,

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how they have the red bottom on them or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
So yeah, so I'd.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Worn the red off and had to have them re
redone so as you do, as one does.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
So yeah yeah, but I mean, yeah, who doesn't. Who
really does have a tailor anymore? I kind of feel
like a dork, now, yeah, that's I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
But if she didn't have the technology in her vehicle
already to establish the timeline, she was proving herself innocent.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Rather than on her side. This is fantastic. She was
able to She shouldn't have to prove her innocence, but
just a tailor you have you have a tailor, by
the way, people agree with you Knights have an O.
If that's the same thing, dragon, thank you a different

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nights of it. Oh, I have a tailor.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
My cousin taught me to throw to shop at thrift
shops for cheap clothes, take them to a tailor to
get the clothes fitted to your personal size.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And you can save a ton of money that way.
Doesn't that cut out the thrift shop?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
You can find some cool stuff at thrift shops though,
Like okay, you know, like people get rid of some
stuff that it's like, okay, this is nobody else because
I have sort of a I mean, I wear a
lot of black V neck t shirts and stuff like that.
But when I'm wearing shirts that has some sort of
design I don't want to wear.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I get annoyed and I don't want to wear clothes
that other people are wearing.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Okay, you know what I mean, Toy, is it pinkies up?
When you I don't know, we'll figure out you had
to wearing somebody else's underwear.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
At the same time. We gotta a break. I'll be back.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Rosky Minsky Show five six six nine Zero's the text line,
and a couple of guests from the uh Douglas County
school Board election coming in here right here at the
bottom of the hour. Infact, already see him Outrett Smith
and Steve Vale both going to be in here, so
your questions start lining him up here on the text line.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
If you guys have questions for that, you want to know.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
And I suppose that I must be the weird one here,
and I am okay with that. Dragon. All ladies have
a tailor. Their clothes rarely fit off the rack. A
father of three girls always complain about the legs or
the sleeves.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I'm okay b being the weird one going, hey, there's
an actual position out there as a tailor. I thought
you just took your stuff from dry cleaners during the break.
You confessed something I didn't know the dry cleaner did that.
I just took my dry cleaning there. Fair enough?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Is Martinizing still a thing? A couple people get that
reference five six six nine. There always the text signe
though throw three, says Regie McDaniel, was the best true
facts Dragon Redbeard show. I do like when you waste
my time there you go you're welcome. Who did that

(44:57):
song waste my time? Was that Lily Allen too? Bring
it f circle may not? I have to go back
and look at that now it was a Grace vanderwall.
I don't know anyway, That's what I get. There was
a text from somebody who's a Metro Area Police Department
employee and they said they have to mention it's more
about shoddy police work than the equipment in this case

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the flock camera.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And I tend to agree with that.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Because as you as you read this case on the Lady,
it felt like that you had police that just kind
of looked at the situation then jumped to a conclusion.
You know, it was easy to leap to that conclusion
rather than doing the extra legwork to establish whether or
not that truck actually had anybody entering or exiting it,

(45:44):
or you know, it was just like a truck drove
through on a on a and we see it on
the flock camera, and this is what we're going with.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I tend to agree with the.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Text there about it being shoddy police work there, and
I you know, police have they got they've got a
tough job. A lot of times over work to get
you know, multiple cases going at once, all this kind
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
So I I, you know, I don't want to sit
there and and.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Just crap on a situation that I don't I don't
personally know about. But in this particular case, it sort
of looked like that. It sort of looked like somebody
jumping to conclusions and then was fairly rude on the
on the door cam and arrogant in their in their
approach of this lady who who ultimately proved that her

(46:27):
timeline and all that kind of stuff, and and again
the summons wasn't filed. I just I mean, this country
has founded on the perception, or at least theoretically, that
you are innocent until proven guilty, and it just does
not feel like we operate that way at all anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
I think it's just more unfortunate with this situation that
you have. In every industry you have that a hole
and this happened to be this kind like a hole. Right,
we're the majority of everybody you look here in the
building trying to think if I don't think we have
any holes anymore, well I'm still here, but otherwise, but
we have had, yes, a holes here.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh, we definitely have.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
So it's just it's unfortunate that somebody in the industry
has to be that has to fill that a hole position,
and it was that guy this time, and it sucks
that she had to prove her in instance, which she
shouldn't have to do.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah, we'll get to more of that in the next hour,
as well as catch up on you guys text and
what you guys think about all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Today we come back, We're going to get to with
Matt Smith.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
And Steve Vale, guys that are running for the Douglas
County School District Board. Want to get their thoughts on
what they bring to the table, what this board needs
going forward, and I look forward to getting your questions
in front of them. So five six six nine er,
if you have questions for either one of them, look
forward to getting those texos in now we'll be able
to ask them.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Mister Roskaminski show, but I'll bright Philly and we'll be back.
We're excited.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I have a couple of guests in here that are
running for the Douglas County School Board positions that are open.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Matt Smith, Steve Vale, how you guys doing good? Great? Great,
Thanks for having us so.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
We can identify the voice with the person, if you
don't mind introducing yourself real quick. Matt Smith here, okay,
and then Steve Veale. Obviously you know him for owning Veil. No,
I'm just kidding, Steve Veil.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Now, Steve, you're a long time Douglas County resident from.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
You're the father of two. I am so Colorado native
with the last name Vail. Right, So, Colorado native, lived
in Douglas County since nineteen ninety nine, raised two girls
through Douglas County school systems very successfully.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
So yes, Matt, you also are a parent, longtime member
of the community.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
I'm originally from West Virginia, but I've been out here
in Colorades since about two thousand and three. I have
a son currently in eighth grade down in Castle Rock, so,
you know, really vested in this district.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I and I told this to listeners before, I do
not I don't have kids, so I haven't paid as
much attention to the school board of the local angeline
that tend to be more at the state of the
national level than the things that I pay attention to.
But one of the things that sort of brought to
my attention extremely recently is how much money is being
poor into a school board race here. And if you

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guys don't mind, I want to delve into a little
bit of that. You guys were telling me. You know,
it's something like several hundred thousand dollars, and some of
that's coming from from outside places.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
I mean, you know, we're proud that a lot of
our donations came from citizens, but you know, there's certainly
outside organizations in the form of independent expenditure committees that
you know, that also contribute each campaign. Our opponents are
are also union endorsed by the American Federation of Teachers,
which they've received dollars from them, and several other endorsements
from the Colorado Working Families Party and Planned Parenthood every Town, USA,

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you know, things like that on on their end, and
and so you know, we only have local endorsement from
the Republican Party in Douglas County.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Okay, all right, that's because I mean, I am one
of those people, and I've seen it more on the
national level, But I just hate the way you get
money infiltrating a lot of this and the money it matters.
We've absolutely seen it matter dollar for dollar or in
terms of what it can do for ad buys, especially late,
and pushing back against some of the dirty politics that

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tends to happen in the last fifteen percent of an
election cycle. We did get a question on the text
line that I wanted to get to, and I said,
this is a question for both candidates. What skill set
are you bringing to this election that's going to give
positive impact to the school board election process?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Oh? Perfect?

Speaker 5 (50:20):
And you know, I think a big highlight of us
is that we're not career educators and so we're bringing
outside leadership experience. So you know, me personally, I have
a diverse background in the military, I was in law
enforcement for several years. For I was in the Navy
and the Colorade Army National Guard, and I was a
deputy and Jeff COO for eight years prior to getting
into it. Since I've been in it, I've had several

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leadership roles. So we're bringing that, you know, a you know,
corporate side of management, so we understand, you know, how
to run large budgets, large projects, and manage resources effectively.
So I think we're bringing in that outside experience. Plus,
you know, we've all had kids in the district and
watch them grow up, you know, from very young children.
So now I have a greator Steve has graduates and

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so we know how this school district works as well,
you know, from that parent point of view.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Yeah, so from my perspective, I've been a leader for
It's gonna hurt my feelings, but thirty plus years at
the VP or at the C suite level in it.
I'm also a vet Air Force. We still get along.
Even though he was a Navy and our look, I
was Army, so I appreciate what horribleth you guys gaming
around and you know, and just to make sure that
we talk about the rest of our slate. Dede was

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a VP in finance, so she's bringing that skill set.
Keaton is also in it and in procurement, so we're
bringing that outside voice. And actually studies have shown that
right those boards are more successful when you don't have
that echo chamber rate. We're not necessarily educators, which is
what they keep saying, you know, where's your educational background.
We have exactly one employee and that's the superintendent, and

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so what we need to do is make sure that
that individual has the tools and the capability and the
funding to do it well current well that she needs
to do, but we also need to bring that business
acumen to protect the taxpayer.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Dollars right, yes and go.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
So we're not here just to spend the money. We're
here to be good custodians of.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
It sofficacy going forward in terms of in terms of spend,
I could definitely appreciate that what one of the things
that we're being asked on the text, what specifically with
each of you motivated you to seek out these positions.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And we'll start with the with you, Steve Well. So,
as a girl dad, obviously there was the no boys
and girls sports. I have two girls. We experienced this personally,
but also just you know, as as has been stated,
my daughter graduated this year from Chaparral High School. So
I don't have kids in the system, but I want
to do this for the next generation. And so that

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was the first thing that really they said, you know, hey,
what what what would get you to run? And that
was what they started with. But then they gave me
a tour of CTE, the Legacy campus off of Lincoln
there and that continuing technical education and the opportunities that
gives for all of our students because not everybody. I mean,
I'm a big advocate of the university, so them have
an NBA, but not everybody's on that path. And Douglas

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County is really giving us those kinds of opportunities to
those students for nursing and automotive and robotics. So that's
really what got me going.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
You mentioned, you know, boys and girls in girls sports,
and would be pushed back a little bit of there,
or at least give you a chance to open up
on that a little bit, because I sort of question that.
I look around, I don't know. I don't have kids,
so I don't know that from my perspective. It almost
seems like that's a popular talking point. But how many
how many students is that actually affecting? You mentioned that
affected you personally.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
It did. So we were.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
My daughter was in soccer and we had a biological
boy on the other team and that individual roughly the
same size but higher density. Two girls were hurt, now
not seriously, but they were taken out of the game.
And that was something that really hit home, is is
that this is just not appropriate.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Now.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
The other piece to that is is let's just say
how often does that happen? I don't know, we don't
have you know, But the the whole conversation when I
talked to our constituents and I say, if you were
at some place, you were at the gym, or if
you were at a restaurant and they had unisex bathrooms,
would you be okay with a male being in that
space with you? And without failure, I'll say no. So

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why would it not be okay for a thirty five
year old woman, but it's okay for a fourteen year
old girl who's already right, And so.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
How many does it take?

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I mean, if it happens, I hate the whole If
we save just one life, but I mean, why why
do we need to allow this to happen at all?

Speaker 5 (54:30):
Yeah, and there's also a different angle on it, you
know as well. So we want to be proactive about
it here in Douglas County. And unfortunately the district is
not sitting there collecting stats on this particular issue because
I've tried to, I've tried to court request it from it.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
The data just does not exist.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
However, there you know, there was a recent Healthy Kid
survey which you know, part of that asked you to
identify your you know, sexuality and gender and things of
that nature and around you know a little. I believe
it was around two percent of the folks came back
and said that they were, you know, either trans or
non binary. And so, you know, it is happening here.

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But the other thing we have to look out is
our girls and our girl teams play other districts in
the metro area where this may be more prevalent. And
so you know, this is about protecting our girls in
Douglas County, you know, within the school and also when
they're playing other teams.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Forget my ignorance here, but could those policies be different
in different school districts?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Absolutely? Okay, yeah, so that would be.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
So even if it is effected in one school district,
then it could be you could still be affected by
competing against the school at a different district.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah, absolutely, because there's a you know, high school athletic
association for example, and then there's you know different you know,
state and federal laws as well.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
We did have a text coming in here, and this
is something I hadn't thought of that I think is
pretty good for mister Vail, mister Smith. If the second
coming of COVID or another type pandemic were to happen,
How would you handle it? What policies would you want
to enact to handle something like that.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Oh, this is great, especially for me, because that's why
I got involved in this. Before, before COVID, I didn't
know what a school board was, to be honest with you,
and I saw what was happening to my son being
home from school, not allowed to be around his friends,
and just the way that was handled, especially in Douglas County,
in my opinion, it was complete chaos. You know, in
Douglas County. I understand maybe the initial stages when nobody
knew what was going on, but this was prolonged, prolonged chaos,

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and just keeping kids out of the classroom, keeping kids
away from their friends, was affecting their mental health. And
so the biggest thing that got me involved is I
saw what happens when a school board does not listen
to parents, and that's what was happening during COVID, And
that's exactly why I got involved, exactly why I'm sitting
here today. So if there was another COVID, I would
make sure that we do not make the same mistakes
over and over again, because you know, I don't know

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if it's Abert Einstein or not he gets credited for it,
but that's the definition of insanity. So I would make
sure that we keep schools open. We have kids in
the schools interacting with their peers, because it was catastrophic
for them whenever they were not allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I say, I want to ask the same question you,
but I want to add I want to add something
to that. He just mentioned that the school board was
not listening to the parents. Would you be willing to
listen to would you both be willing to listen to
parents even if their viewpoints diametrically disagreed with what you
UNDI mentally personally one more thousand.

Speaker 4 (57:03):
Absolutely, And in fact, that's one of our tenants, right,
is this whole partnership of parents and teachers, the administration
and full transparency. So look, we're not perfect, you know.
I'll admit I'm data driven. I would have, you know,
probably handled it differently. But we all when COVID first hit,
we all didn't know, right, I'll admit we're the ones
that were bringing our groceries home and keeping them in

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the garage like everybody else now we didn't. I don't
want to get into the politics, but but yeah, one
of the things that we want to make sure that
we do is that we're we're listening to the data,
we're listening to the parents, we're listening to the science,
and then looking at the impact as well, because again
another anecdote is we were personally impacted. My daughter was

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in her she turned thirteen when that all happened, and
that was just that critical developmental time in her life
and she really struggled for a couple of years with
that because of the stay at home and many of
her friends. My daughter graduated successfully and is doing all awesome,
but many of her friends are on a different journey
that the impact of keeping those kids home is. I

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don't I don't even know if we know how much
impact that's going to have for the generations.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
So talk with Matt Smith Steve Ailbolth running for the
Douglas County School Board. I definitely appreciate you guys coming in.
We're getting a lot of stuff in here. And one
of the comments here that I thought was interesting, well,
one was talking about kids in the Parker Middle School
that said my son and daughter both had opposite sex
and the gym locker room changing in their airports. Why
not looking at forming three sports leagues male, female and

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mixed for for everybody. Is that a thought that either
one of you would be behind or I'm just I'm
spitballing here because this is on the text line.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
I mean, I think it's an option, But you know,
I think that's easier said than done because there's so
many athletic associations and you'd have to get buy in
from all the different districts and then uh, you know,
national competition as well, and you know, part of this
is also you know, scholarship opportunities for you for girls
and things like that, so it trickles all the way
up to the college.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
So I think it's easy.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
To you know, to you know, to kind of say, yeah,
that sounds like a great idea, But then you start
thinking about all the log justics involved with it. That's
a very complicated one creating three different sport leagues.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Well, and we get the other side will always say, well,
we're not going to get tied up in court, We're
going to stay away from that, and I think that
that's a weak answer, right, We do want to make
sure that we're looking at all options so that we're
protecting all students, but we have to operate within the
law that you know, our governor has set forth some
huge challenges for us. But that doesn't mean that this
slate doesn't want to have courage and protect our girls.

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We're not going to just say, well, it's the law
and so therefore we're just going to do something else. Right,
So we will look at other options, we will look
at what we can do.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
But we have to protect our girls.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
As Matt said, you know, the scholarships, the opportunities, their
self esteem, right, they always talk about mental health. This
is a huge mental health impact to these girls.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
So it just good just to add on to that
if I can.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
We're actually out talking to a retirement community and this
resonated with the residents because they ran into it a
plan or at Planet Fitness, and so this exact issue,
and so this all political boundaries. It's like a ninety
six percent issue on the Republican side nationally and like
a seventy percent issue on the Democrats side nationally as well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I'm glad you guys mentioned about protecting the students, so
that dovetails nicely with the next direction I want to go.
I think an issue parents are eyeing would be the
safety of schools in general in the radicalization of youth online.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Look at the evergreen situation close to home here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
What do you guys bring to the table in terms
of ideas on how to work on these issues.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
So this is a passion of all of ours. Certainly,
this is one that I've spoken about as well. But
we have such a Douglas County already has such a
fantastic partnership with Sheriff Weekly and his staff local law enforcement.
Those SROs are some of the most critical individuals in
the school system because you can we all agree that
we need to use available technology, harden the schools, make

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sure that they're as safe as possible as a facility.
But there's no substitute for that human being being in there,
understanding the behavior of those students, understanding the situation, and
seconds count. That SRO God forbid that there's an incident,
that SRO is the first line of defense. No matter
how good local law enforcement is. They made me minutes away, right,

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and we need to interact with that. So we also
need to partnership, and I think we talked about this
before we went on there is that there's a kind
of a trifecta making sure that the facilities are good,
that trained sro there's no substitute for that. And then
obviously we need that mental health right to try and
prevent this before it ever happens. But when it happens,
there is no substitute for that person on site taking

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care of the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Mat. I want to get your answer on that as well,
but I want to add something through that. How do
you feel about we're all of that's here? So how
do you feel about some of these parental started organizations,
as specifically veteran fathers showing up just to be a
presence on campus in these do you support the parents
being involved in that capacity in terms of school safety?

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Love it and I've done it myself. It's called watch
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Another group is called Watchdog Dads at my son's charter school,
which I've done that as well. I think that's great
and I think the more you know, the more folks
that we can get there and involve, you know, the
better off we're going to be when it comes to
school security. Obviously, you know I have a law enforcement background,
so Steve's exactly right. Second matter, and so we have
world class SROs and just to be very clear, our
state wants to keep SROs in the classroom. One concern
anything about our opponents is they've seeked endorsements from the

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Colorado Working Families Party and Every Town USA, which is
you know, partnered with Mom's Demand Action and anti Second
Amendment groups, and you know, both of those questionnaires they
had to answer questions about removing SROs and replacing them
with mental health professionals, and so that is you know,
I want to be very clear that is not something
that we are in favor of. We want to keep
SROs into the school here in Douglas County.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah, I've I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Mean me personally and I come from more of a
libertarian background, right and a liberal conservative dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But I'll say this, I've always found that I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Felt both parties had something correct in that you do
need the enforcement you need, you need the armed person
there to be able to handle those responses, but you
also do need the mental health capacity to de escalate
it before it gets to that point. Are you guys
both in favor of both streams?

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
And we're not usually exclusive, right, Yeah, let's prevent from happening. Yeah,
let's understand the behavior. But I think that that's again,
it's a there's not a bright line between those things.
Those SROs who are the ones that are going to
mitigate if something happens, are also the ones that understand
student behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
They're not trained mental professionals, but they can understand situational awareness.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
But yeah, No, it's it's a it's a partnership and
a collaboration.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
We needed all of it. Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
We've got a couple of minutes left here. I want
to make give you an opportunity to make a final pitch.
You know, what you bring to the table, what you're
looking for, what's at stake with these elections, and why
they should select you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Awesome?

Speaker 5 (01:03:40):
Yeah yeah, and more importantly than just selecting me, they
need to select all four of us right now. Ticket
Yeah yeah, so the four candidates are going to be Gamble, Creamer, Smith,
and Vale. No matter where you live in Douglas County,
you get to vote for four districts.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Do not matter.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Election day is tomorrow, so you can still fill out
your ballot, take it to a secure drop box, or
vote in person by tomorrow but our top issues are
making sure we stay focused on academics, keep biological boys
on a girls sports or bathrooms or locker rooms, and
then make sure parents, you know, have a voice and
a partnership in the district. That's going to be our
top three. And you know, really, you know things that
set us apart here.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
So yeah, Matt covered it. What I want to make
sure is that right now, there's there's all this this
conversation about unionizing and that the teachers need a seat
at the table. Here's the deal. We have the highest
graduation rate of any Denver county or I mean any
metro Denver school district. That's something like ninety two. Our
test scores are higher than any of the other schools, right,

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so we're outpacing the other schools, and we don't have
a collective bargaining agreement. We don't have the exact numbers
on the teachers' union participation because we don't have that.
But it does not appear that the teachers are actually
asking for a change, right. They appear to be happy.
We're not having an exodus of teachers, and in fact,
we're having teachers that have gone to other school districts.
Like Cherry Creek come back because of the culture, the

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focus on teaching, and so we really want to make
sure that we continue the great work that the superintendent
and the Conservative board has already done. Keep that momentum going.
Let's not change what's working.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So sounds good, guys, Matt Smith, Steve Vale, and you
guys have the four person ticket is a Gamble, Kramer.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Smith and Veil. Okay, so want to make sure we
got that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
So I appreciate you guys taking the time to to
sit there and talk with me and talk to listeners
and ask their questions. We did have like some last
minute questions coming up. Sorry we didn't get a chance
to get to some of those for some of you guys.
I wish I'd seen some of these a little bit earlier.
But I definitely appreciate you guys taking the time today. Again,
that's Gamble, Kramer, Smith, and Veil for the Douglas County
School Board. That's been all right, sitting in for Roskimisky.

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We'll be back programming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Note. Ross is moving to six a m. Dragon Red Beard.
Why didn't anybody tell me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
I just got the memo myself, sir. Yeah, Ross and
Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Heack of job.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Brownie is going to be moving into the nine am
to noon spots. Everything after noon is going to stay
the same, So Maddy Connell still be on noon to three.
Sports will be three to six, and myself from Broncos
Country Tonight will be on six to nine pm most
weeknights when I'm not interrupted by well Rockies baseball during
the summer or see you wins hoops during the uh

(01:06:13):
the fall, see you football when it's on the Broncos
this Thursday as they take on the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
It's gonna be a fun day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
I believe we're having coverage here start at noon on Thursday,
so that you know, just to give you guys an idea.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
We have a bunch of questions about who will be
filling in for Brownie since you've been filling in for Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Are you gonna try? And I don't know. I'm not the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Determiner of such things. I do not know if I
will be filling in for Michael Brown or not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
When I mean, it's four hours instead of three, so
it's gonna be a little harder.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
No, that'll be three, won't it for Brown? Yeah? On
k how oh who's gonna be funny for him. I
have no idea who's gonna be over there? That's that
will not be me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
You're not gonna try, You're not gonna do morning six
to ten.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Well, I'll tell you this. I have not been asked, Okay,
I I would have to. I have not even considered
such a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Gotcha.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I do the probably believe that'd be great, you'd be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
You are trying to get me to do like seven
hours of radio a day, aren't you what? I see
what you're doing here. People already hate me for three
hours a day. We don't need seven hours of me.
The going joke around here is the the A. And
you know, and ko is ko Albright because so many
people want to ko Albright.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I like it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
And also I'm on like all the time now, so
I like doing I like filling it for ross. Though
hopefully you guys are enjoying yourself. Five six six nine
zero is the text line. There's quite a few of
you that had last minute questions for those candidates. I'm
terribly sorry we did not get to those, just ran
out of time. Would have loved to get to some

(01:07:39):
of those questions. I see you guys on there. I
see your comments. I would have loved to have gotten
more of those questions. Unfortunately, just run out of time.
You know, all these these segments are eighteen minutes, twenty minutes,
and I just did not get the opportunity to be
able to get to those.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
And I'm sure on their websites they might have a
fact or frequently ask questions or a place where you
can contact them. But in election day tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Yeah, also got a couple of questions about why I
didn't have people in from the other slate of candidates.
I sent the emails out to both. Everybody got the
same everybody got the same email.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
These were the ones that responded.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
So I don't know, you know that that that frustrated me, honestly,
because I would have liked to have had a substantive
debate and have have multiple viewpoints represented, because I feel
like that that's that that's a good thing, matifact. Both
those candidates that that are in here on the Republican
side said it without saying it that they liked having
the diversity on the school board of differing thought and

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being able to challenge each other's beliefs in order to
come to better equitable and more efficacy in the decisions.
So you know, yeah, I again appreciate all these questions,
and I'm terribly sorry if I didn't get to your question.
I would have loved to have had them on for
for an hour, had more people on, had a substant
up debate, and been able to have sort of moderate
that rather than what we ultimately ended up doing there.

(01:08:53):
But I appreciate you guys being along for the ride.
They want to talk a little bit real quickly here
about the tariffs. The biggest battle yet Donald Trump's trade
war is about to begin. The Trump administration is headed
to the US Supreme Court on Wednesday, facing off against
a group of states and small businesses who contend most
of the tariffs are illegal and should be struck down.
I tend to be on their side of that. I

(01:09:15):
am not a big fan of these tariffs, both think
most of you know. I'm more of a free trade
absolutist on these kinds of things. And the immediate text message,
before you burn your fingers up sending this response is well,
what about the country's tariffing us? Honestly, they don't tariff
us very much, but what they do in terms of
taxing their own citizens is on them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I'm more concerned with what's happening here as far as
this goes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
If the court agrees with them, Trump's trade strategy would
likely be pretty upended the sweeping global tariffs that he
first announced back in April. The government would also likely
have to refund some of the billions of dollars it
has collected through the tariffs, which, for those of you
who don't know, and I'm not sure there's anybody and
more who doesn't know what a tariff is, it's a
tax on import.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Final decision, we'll rest with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
The Supreme Court here on this, and that's sort of
what we're waiting for. Trump has described this in sort
of grandiose terms, as he does, warning that a loss
in court for him would tie his hands and trade
negotiations and periling national security. He did say yesterday, after
previously stating that he would be there and attend the

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hearing of person that he did not want to cause
a distraction, was not going to be there. He says
that if the case, the US will be weakened and
in a financial mess for many years to come. I
would and many would dispute that Trump's tariff's had cost
US businesses quite a bit of money. Learning Resources, which
is a US seller of toys, but most of those

(01:10:46):
toys made overseas, is one of the businesses that is
suing the government fourteen million dollars this past year, seven
times what it spent on tariff's in twenty twenty four.
That's according to CEO Rick Woldenberg, saying that they throw
their business into unbelievable disruption, noting that the company had
to shift the manufacturing of hundreds of items since January

(01:11:07):
and had to keep shifting it because it kept changing
countries in terms of the numbers, and has thrown a
lot of especially small businesses, into disarray. Bill Harris, who
is the co founder of the Georgia based Cooperative Coffee, says,
we're hopeful that it's going to be ruled illegal, but
we're also trying to prepare if it's settling in. His

(01:11:27):
co op, which imports coffee for more than a dozen countries,
has already paid roughly one point three million in tariffs
since April these I think the best counter argument that
I've seen, this argument against the tests have seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Comes from several different places.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
There's a couple of different economists on Twitter that I
follow that have that have all been and I try
to retweet them pretty frequently. You know, film angus guys
like that that I feel like do a great job delineating.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
The problems.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
With this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
My problem with it in general is that it really.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Against tariff is not going to lead to financial ruin,
which is the Trump's claims.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Tariffs are only about four and a half percent of
federal receipts. The effect is overstated because it ignores slower
economic growth and a smaller tax base that tariffs inherently create.
The government claims, and this is in its Supreme Court brief,
which you guys can read that quote with tariffs were origination.

(01:12:38):
Without tariffs, we're a poor nation. The reality is, of
course we're drowing a debt either way. The government's fiscal trajectory,
it's determined by other policies, in particular social insurance and titlements.
The dwarf tariff effects you can go to I think
the Tax Foundation. They've got dynamic calculations between twenty to

(01:12:59):
twenty five, twenty fifty four showing that public debt is
going to rise about ninety nine point nine percent of
GDP to one hundred and sixty four point one percent
with the tariffs and to basically one hundred and seventy
one percent without them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
So in a sense, what we're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Saying is there's one few fewer chair on the Titanic,
one fewer debt chair on the Titanic without the terror.
It's just it's silly like this is dropping the bucket
type stuff, and it does harm the broader economy. Now,
warning is about another great depression or nonsensical that's that's
not in play here. I've seen that coming from the
far left that we're headed for another great depression with

(01:13:35):
with tariffs, which is not correct. Tariff policy really matters
on the margins, and it's really painful for especially painful
for especially in the haphazard application that we've had so far,
for small businesses. But the year's economy overall, trade policy
isn't transformative because, contrary to popular narrative, the United States
is one of the least globally integrated countries in the world.

(01:13:58):
Total trade is twenty five percent of GDP. That puts
US in one hundred and ninety first among one hundred
and ninety five nations with data vail and the revenue
from tariff collections under consideration by the court, which is
eighty nine billion so far, is a rounding error in
a thirty point five trillion dollar economy. So the idea

(01:14:20):
that it did catastrophic confidence consequences in getting rid of
these is the thing is ludicrous, as is at the
same time the implications of a great depression. The problem
here is is that it messages like small businesses are
not able to adapt as quickly to these things, that
it's crushing small business and it hurts regular Americans at

(01:14:41):
the register.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
There's who was that stained or puddle of mud or
the faults? That's right, the Canadian man Default they were.
I was trying to remember it because one of them
was related to one of the guys in Nickelback.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I think it was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Oh, that's why they're both Canadian mass Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yeah, Defaults they had with two songs. I think it
was it's been a while default man.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
I was like, I was trying to remember which one
that was.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Was that that era of the you know, they all
sounded three doors down and they all sounded the say
I that is the only default song in our system,
so it's our default default song. Yes, very nicely done.
That's how we do the things around here. Five six
six nine zero is the text line, said one nine Ben,
keeping the jeep on the road today. Nice work a jeep.

(01:15:26):
Love to have you in the nine to twelve slot.
So I'm not gonna read the said your insight viewpoints
are very interesting. I appreciate them. Yeah, what kind of
je we talk a Cherokee? We talk at wrangler? What
are we talking here? What are what kind of jeep?
Because there's you tell me a liberty, I'm throwing you
off the text line, tell me the cheap liberty I'm
throwing off.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
There's a wide variety of what jeep does out there,
So which which which one is this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Oh? Hey, ol Brand, I'm pretty sure you are denting
the used day Wolganza Ross won't appreciate it. Well done, sir,
I'll tell oh man uh seven to two? Oh Ben,
would you consider replacing Michael Brown and khow? I've not
been asked, so I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Well, if there's anything we know about Benjamin Olbright is
that he loves mornings.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
So Michael's on right now over there from uh was just.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Six am to ten am, six to ten. Yeah, so
that would require me getting up at like, I don't know,
five am exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Especially once you finished your nighttime show here on k WAIT.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Yeah, and we officially off the year at eleven pm. Yeah.
Who really needs more than five hours to sleep any
I could.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
Not, like, I get that anyway, I could handle it.
Oh my goodness, five six six menzoss.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
There's only one Canadian band that matters. Which band is that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I got a buddy of mine up there in Canada. Yeah,
Matthew Good used to do that, Matthew Good band back
in the late nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
He solo.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Now, as you know, he's he's a fairly large artist
up there in Canada. I nobod's heard him here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
But well for the Ross Kaminski show in the audience,
that would just be rush obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
That's when I figured, but like, just to be sure, right,
and is across Canadian ragweed even Canadians.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Like it's like five people get that joke?

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Said what now you don't see to understand, tariffs are
used to influence the behavior of tariff countries and punish
and change other countries behavior. Tariffs are the only thing
that's going to get responses in the great negotiating tools.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Sort of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
They can be, but then again they're they're sort of
not as well because what you get are these countries
promising things they don't have to deliver on a lot
of this, A lot of the stuff that comes out
of the public relations and the pr component of these
announcements of these trade deals.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Uh is this, Uh they've.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Promised X amount of dollars in US investment. Well, those
governments can't compel private businesses in their in their countries
to spend that money, just like you couldn't tell, uh,
the president here can't tell you know, McDonald's that they
have to spend one hundred billion dollars in Australia or
whatever like like, that's it's va it's vapor. It's not real.

(01:18:01):
Those numbers are not real. There's always you know, a
lot of intent, a lot of language in there. That's
that's intent. It makes those things look bigger than they are.
Which whatever you think of Donald Trump, at the end
of the day, he is a public relations maestro in
terms of getting things like that and making things that
look like they're a bigger deal than they are. His
whole career in his name's Brandon's emage is built on that.

(01:18:23):
But I mean the reality is like some of these
trade deals, like, Okay, we did a deal, is it better?

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
I mean the Malayia that's Malaysia deal. Is the Malaysia
deal we just did.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
It's literally worse than the one we got out of
in twenty seventeen. So I you know, there's clear is
We've completed but fourteen comprehensive free trade agreements with twenty countries.
We got two massive multilateral agreements with the World Trade Organization,
which includes Trump's own USBX Canada agreement and the TPP

(01:18:52):
which he jettisoned his first day his first term. This
is ratified five hundred and thirty eight treaties over the
same period. None of these deals involve I E P
I E p A tariffs over the threat of them,
Nor did the Abraham Accords, which you know he considers
a signature foreign policy achievement and it's the framework for
his broader Middle Middle East piece stuff. So no, I mean,
they are a leverage tool as far as that goes.

(01:19:14):
But The reality is most of these countries are just
waiting out the Supreme Court here anyway. They can agree
to whatever and they're gonna get struck.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Down and so what you know, none of that, it matters.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
They did what he you know, they got him off
the plate for you know, for a few to a
few months, just agreeing to stuff that they either don't
have to produce with US investment or if these things
get overturned in the Supreme Court, they never have to
deliver on anyway. Oh, by the way, these characts are
just a tax on US citizens and US importers. It's
US importers that are paying the tax, and they are
passing the cost on to US citizens at the registry.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Why do they care? Roskaminski show will be back? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
My mom's husband, Paul a huge Rush fan, huge Rush fan.
Like I I like Rush, like it's with Son, It's whatever.
I'm not going out of my way to listen to Rush.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
If I had constant tickets you're going with both of
the sho shows that are coming next year, I.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Would well, let's just say, like if I, you know,
go to the shows that kind of stuff. I'm not
like sitting there trying to. There's some shows where you
like you want tickets, you know that kind of thing.
If I get tickets, I'm like, okay, all right, I've
seen Rush once before, so you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Obviously they're missing Perch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
It's like Neil and that blanktons last name from that
Neil Perk now, but yeah, but he's like a he's
like a Rush fan, so like he's like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Like geeking out on out on the drummer's name. No,
like for five seconds there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
No, he yeah, one of the greatest drummers of all
time too, right, But he's like he's like a fan fan.
Like when when was that movie I Love You man?
When they go to the Rush show that slopping up
the ass. You don't remember that too? It's Paul Rudd
and I think it's a yeah, Paul rud and Jason
Siegel and they.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Go to Nope, I haven't seen that one. You haven't seen
a Lovely Man? No, that was a while ago. It's
relatively new. It is just a couple of years old.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Dude. I I oh man, you say that time slips
through our fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Man, it's probably like twenty twenty or something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Oh god, No, it's I think it's a decade older
than that. No, when did I Love You Man come
out two thousand and nine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Oh okay, so it's clearly more than that. Yeah, we
were talking. I was like, it's like fifteen years old, man,
fifteen ninety was ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, five years ago for some of us.
We're talking about that the other day, like the gap
between what is it the gap between that seventies show,
the time period depicted and when when it was on
the air. It would be like that two thousand and
five show or something. I know, that two thousand show,

(01:21:34):
two thousand and one show or whatever, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
That's what we would be lampooning.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
It's it's it's yeah, time slips to your fingers, man,
it really does I Love You? I liked that movie.
You know, it's a it's and misses, but it was
it was pretty fun. And then my friend, of course,
Jason siegeals in it. So yeah, that's that's a lot
of fun. But name drop a little bit. Have you
seen have you seen a show shrinking on Apple this
ship with Harrison Fort You should watch that one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
It's it's pretty good. That's uh, one of my one
of my favorite things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
The reason five six six nine zero is the text
line that say, Ben tell us if you listen to
Neil Young, also tell us if you wash your legs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I definitely wash my legs. I am not free time.
Oh yeah, okay, good, I tell I take multiple showers
a day. Huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
This has been a topic on Broncos Country to Night.
Before we can get into this, I take multiple showers
a day. I am first thing when you get up, shower,
last thing you do before you get in bed, shower.
I'm not getting in bed and bringing the dirt and
importing the dirt into my sheets.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
So last thing I do before I get a best
shower before I get into bed for the night.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
I mean I can I can one get behind that
because I work out now in the evening and afternoon,
so of course want to showers.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Sweat during that, you smell during the night. I like
to come in here and do the show. I just
shows it, and I gonna not shower before I came
in here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
I'm not gonna get up at four o'clock in the
morning and take a shower after I've already taken a
shower at eight o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
I'm not getting up atour o'clock in the morning anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
But I did get up extra, you know, to take
a shower before I came in here, and I said,
tonight you're gonna take a shower? Yeah, well, tonight we
get to semen's hoops. So I'll be I'll do like
a half hour before that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I will.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
I will take a shower before I get into bed,
for sure, if I work out and take a shower
for that. So there could be two to three showers
in any given day. What's your water bill? Like, I
don't know whatever I pay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
You just have no idea what you water bill is.
You just do cut the check. Yeah, I don't pay
attention to that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Okay, but I mean like, yeah, well, I mean you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Leave the water on the whole time when you shower, Yeah,
you turn the water off.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
You gotta lather up and then like are you kidding?
Like do you guys don't know how to shower? Am
I gonna teach people? I have to teach people how
to shower? Here?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Wait, wait, wait wait wait, didn't the water then.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Get you get yourself wet? Then you turn the water off,
and then you lather up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
You're gonna get back to the proper temperature of water.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
You turn it back on, but you know where your
temperature is. You turn it back on. Turn it so
it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
But with waterfly, with the shower facets and everything, they're
incredibly finicky.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
So there's one that last it different.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
If you shut it off and then turn it back
on to the same splate, it does not cool down
that fast. Right, But you gotta you gotta lather up
and let that marinade. You gotta put you put, you
put the you put the little glove on the loof
of I use the silicone because the loofa keeps bacteria
that the silicone doesn't you lather up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
You gotta let that marinade for a minute. Just let
you know, just like you know, you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Don't wash like this is the people who look at
this is ridiculously the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
So you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
You gotta you will put the soap on your car.
You let it sit there for a second before you
rinse it off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
You gotta let that maritate. Let it How does that
do anything? That's how it does something? How does not
doing that doing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Because you have to you have to rub it off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Well, I get the silicone srubby thing, you scrub it
in and then you let.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
It sit there for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
You have to turn the water off in order to
rinse off if you just go step it aside, and
I suppose you could.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
But some of us are saving for the saving the
you know, money and the environment.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
There, Redbeard, I never I don't know if I've ever
heard of anybody turning.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
The water off while you shower off. Well, you're in
the middle of a shower.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Longer your showers what like, I'm in there for ten
fifteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
I don't want the water running the whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Yeah, I'm in it's ten minutes, fifteen fifteen minutes max.
For sure, those are the longer show.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
The morning showers will tends to be a little longer,
right because the morning shower you're just to wake up,
look like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
You confirmation by it. So you the morning shower longer.
I've got it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I've gotta you know, I gotta sit there and like,
you know, collect myself, wake up a little bit of
this existential dread of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
But the evening shower is a quick one, like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
I'm just you know, I'm rinsing off, getting stuff, and
the I'm going I'm jumping into bed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
So they're not all showers are created equal.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
So then the point of the morning shower, after the
evening shower is what exactly the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Shower is the start the day, clean yourself, get ready
to face the day shower.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I feel, look, I'm taking crazy pails. I invented the
piano key neck tie dragon. I invented it. Who am
I to really talk?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
I didn't even know there was a tailor position that
is a tailor anyway, you just took your stuff in
the dry cleaner.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It's so funny because the text line is like, turn
the shower off. I didn't know these environmentals. I'm so
not like, that's not what it is. It's just like
I just because I'm in there so long, I'm like,
I don't want the hot water to run out. That's
the reason I turn it off, because I like galding
hot when I like, I take hot showers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
So you're a woman. I'm a dude who likes hot showers.
Does that make me a woman?

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
I've taken a shower with my wife and there's no
chance that I will step into her temperature sluff the
skin off. No, no, it just melts your skin. Right, I
put my hand or any of that. I've got bone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
I didn't realize that this was a this was a
battle of the sexes kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
It really is, because this comes out like like when
we were on when we were on Rock's Country.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Night, myself and Nick Fergus, when we're having this discussion.
I don't know how we got there, but we were
talking about using the bar of soap versus the washcloth, okay,
and the audience came down along racial lines. You are
either an old like an old person, or you are
an African American if you're using the wash cloth like
white people, just they're either the loofa or the straight
bar or get right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yep, yeah right. It just comes to it. It was, dude,
it was split. We went on this for hours.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
It was split along racial line.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
It was the most racial tension that we have experienced
as a Countrary was the washcloth.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
I used to do the wet washcloth when I was younger,
but then once you start doing your own laundry and
then realize that you have the sudeerfulest.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Piece of cloth that provides nothing it's a bacteria track exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
It's like, no, I can't do this anymore. So I
just started using the bars up and I'm like, oh,
this works just as well. I'll just do this from
now on and I save a whole bunch of time. Yeah,
there's so much. There's so many people it now that
the entire text line it is just do you only
use one square of toilet paper?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Oh? Good God, good lord. No, I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
You know, are you a folder or you a crumpler?

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
For what toilet paper? I use wet wipes?

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
Again, my question will still stand us use.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Disposable wet wipes that I flush. There's no there's no
technique to what I do there. It's just I toss
it directly in the bowl and flush.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
But when you are doing the act of wiping, is
the paper the wet wipe? Is that a flush wet
wipe or is it crumpled up into a little ball
do the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
I don't think it's this however, I grabbed it. There's
no technique involved there. I just, you know, I'm using
that to clean the area whatever I feel at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Effectively, I really haven't. I'm a left hand only user.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
There, And but you're right handed, yes, and your left hand.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I don't want to dirty my right that's sure. Yeah, okay, yeah,
that makes sense. I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
This is uh his text line is absolutely ridiculous right now,
by the way, I mean, just absolutely ridiculous. Ben is
on track with two showers a day. He's way out
there with turning the water off. That's three or three
different three or three two or three showers a day.
You realize you're rinsing off all the natural oils in
your skin and drying it out. Yes, that's why I
have to moisturize, Ben. I was in the United States
Submarine Force for twenty three years. You always shut the

(01:28:52):
water off when you're lathering up. It's called a submarine shower.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Oh, could be a military thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
It could be, And I didn't spend any time in
the Armed forces.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Nobody takes showers like that. All caps a no one, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Dragon. My husband's showers are so hot. He's peeling the
paint off the ceiling. I will not take a shower
with him, because one time I did, it was so
flippant hot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
I painted three h three.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
That's how you shower at a camper or at a camp,
not at home. Who turns the water off? Nobody does this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I think we have another division here, we do.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
We're very split on this, very very split on this.
On the text line, he only use one square, another person,
he's only use one square.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
I enjoy my hot showers today. I grew up at
an old farmhouse and the showers were added in the
basement and they were cold in the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Yeah nine seven, Oh, oh my goodness. He's ridiculous about
showering his ross. Who doesn't clean his legs, shutting the
water off mid shower completely idiotic.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Wipes are bad for the environment.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
They're biodegradable. The one I used, I I yeah, I
guess I should have prefaced all this. These are biodegradable.
They you know, they're not the It's not like you're
you know, the these are flushible, biodegradable wife.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
So then how do you feel about going number two
out in public? Then you're clearly not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Well, I mean, I don't run to somebody's front yard
and just drop one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
You're asked.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
You're saying in public you've been using public toilets, right,
I read not.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
To you're at a restaurant, You're gonna be like, no,
I'm just gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
If I got to, I got to, but I tend
to take care of business at the house.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
But didn't you carry like portable wives with you so
that you can be okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I don't. So there's that, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I think, didn't we have this conversation with Mandy because
she had the day conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I feel like we had this conversation with Manny. Maybe
you have with her, but not me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Yeah, yeah, everybody like these there's a there's I can
tell the civilians from the military people on the text
line because the civilians are like, there's no such thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
This is absolutely ridiculous. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
And then on the military people like yeah, sea shower,
you were military shower.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
See that multiple times on the text len.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
I did just I didn't tell who's been in the
who's been in the service before, and who has it
from the just the uh, just the responses on this
nine of an osana and cold shower.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Only way to go cold former showers in the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
I will say this, somebody just just texting to someone
nice says, no wipees in the toilet. There's no wipe
that dissolves in the water to prevent storages, signed a
former plumber. Well, then they've been lying to me the
whole time, because I have this entire time, I've been
going with the flushable biodegradable wipe, and I feel lied to.
And now I'm gonna have to do an invest some
investigative journalism. But it's a big shoe well by the

(01:31:30):
company selling them to me, gotcha.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
So now I've got to do some Do you think
the company that is selling you the fleshable wipes really
cares if it clogs your your pipelines that anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
I don't know, because now I need to now I
need to know. Now I'm gonna have to do some
big jay journalism.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
Here, especially because you live in the people demand to know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Well, that's say, I'm temporarily living in an apartment right
now while I'm building.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
And if you're clogging everybody others everybody else's stuff, that's
what I know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Now, I'm a pole, I'm the jerk, I'm the a hole,
And that's appropriate for this conversation in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
But boom bump five six nine zeros A text line Ben,
you're a caveman bedet all the way. Well, okay, so
that's the thing. So I temporarily live in an apartment. Now,
I had the beday before when I was at that
I did. And yes, you are absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
I've been using the flushable wipe since I've been in
this place because it came the bathroom came pre built
and it does not have a bday and and so
that's why I've been using this. But now I feel
like now I've been lied to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
I've been using wipes for twenty five years. In public,
you went to the paper towel. I just refreshed on me,
dang it. In public you went to the paper towels.
They provide works just as what now, I'm not doing
that paper? What kind of sand paper? Some wet wipes
to paper towels?

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah, what kind of sand paper esque experience are you?

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
You deal paper towels? Utterly ridiculous. So this is something
we should know about. Yes, yes, absolutely, four h six.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
I don't care if my wipes are buyered, degradable or not.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
My rear will be clean. See I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Three oh sevens is in California, It's normal to turn
water off because they have rules saying you cannot use
a certain amount of water a month. Really, yeah, for me,
that wasn't That wasn't the impetus behind it. It was
running out of hot water.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Are your hot water tanks really that small? It's this apartment,
I mean, and then previous it's still gonna be like
a thirty forty fifty gallon tank. So you're fine. But
you got a bunch of people showering, but they have
individual You have your own hot water tank.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
I do, Yeah, I don't in this one. I think
it's a I think it's cooperative hot water tank. Really,
I'm pretty sure I don't know where the hot water
heater would be. It's not in my apartment, not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
In this one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Is it is outdoor on the That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
There's not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
It's not in there, So I'm pretty sure it's shared
a little utility clubs.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
No, it's not. There's no. There's no balcony on this place.
It just hasn't opened.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
It's like French doors that opened with a rail, but
there's no extended balcony.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
It's super cheap. This was why I got this thing.
While I'm building so.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
A ben sock, socks, shoe shoe or sock shoe, sock shoe.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Oh weird question.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Wearing socks?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yes, where the ankle socks?

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Yeah? Like the like the girls do they.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Have the they have the the These are a special
kind of size. The brand is mack Weldon Silver. They
have silver fibers woonn in there, woven in the socks.
Or they're antibacterial. So you're it's to the foot smell.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Sure, yeah, if you want to believe that kind of thing.
I mean that's you know, probably getting taken to the
wood shed pan. You know, twenty dollars a pair of
ankle socks. But like your fleshible wife, that don't cry.
If I'm finding out that I'm very easy to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Oh my goodness, the fleshiable wives do clog pipe, says
someone who had the system backup. They showed me the
camera scope to see where it was. Wow, I would
not want to see that camera scope. I would not
want to see that. Okay, the socks shoe, sock shoe.
I put my socks on. Okay, Well, I don't wear
socks around the house. I'm mostly barefoot. I wear socks

(01:34:59):
when I go out so I put socks on and
then shoes. So I go sock, socks, shoes, shoe perfect.
That's the best way to do it. I can't like
that feels weird now that I'm trying to picture the other,
it would feel weird to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
Do it the other exactly, the one foot fully fully
dressed and the other not.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
It's just four h six.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
I keep wipes in my fanny pack for public events.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
You just admitted to wearing a fanny pack. They're coming
back comparably.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
I need to know if it's if this is a
man or woman, because it's totally like the apparently it has.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Been coming back for man or whatever. I can't, Yeah,
I can't do that. I can't wear around the waist.
I already get assumptions.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
You know what was the Seinfeld bit, I'm single, thin,
white neat in my mid forties. I already get assumptions.
Five six six nine zero is the text line wasting
time with the leap wipe talk.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
Ross once said he never looks down to see if
the wipe was complete.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
What somebody's three or three says?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Ross once said he never looks down to see if
his wipe was complete.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
You always have to check, like when you're blowing your nose,
you have to you have to look at it and like,
all right, we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
I mean, you could tell if it's a frictionless wipe.
You already you can see where this is. Mandy condocated
at the perfect time right now.

Speaker 6 (01:36:20):
Where you just use the phrase frictionless wipe.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
I did, and there are people that will get that joke. Yeah,
I mean a the day is a frictional well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
I so I used to have the day when I
had the house. I'm living in the apartment right now
while I'm building, and I don't have the bidet about
using the using the plugs right end. It's fantastic, that's
what some people. And I've been using the wipes and
they were on the thing it says they're biodegradable, and
then they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Tell you that that is just a bald face. Lone
had several of them coming.

Speaker 6 (01:36:50):
Except it's acceptable marketing puffery.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
And I'm a I'm a Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
I'm having to have to do some big jay journalism
here and uh and and go after these the I mean, I.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
Can call my plumber from Fixing twenty four to seven
and just have them come right on and let you
know it's a bad idea.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
That's a setup for you right there. Yeah, it's a
loved to write up for you. Stocked in them alone.
I do not want to be Karl Malone in that situation.
We're gonna set up here, Mandy. I love that sweater.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Thank you. It looks thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:37:14):
This is some of Walmart's finest fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Trying to Kathy Ireland's nineteen collection.

Speaker 6 (01:37:20):
Jeff Simpson. Okay, I can't remember Kathy Ireland. She has
you know, she's like a billion dollar business owner, right, but.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
She follows me on Twitter. We talk Yeah, no, stop,
I did serious. Really, I'm just look, come on the show. Sure,
my show, not your show. No, already on your show.
Wants to hear Kathy Ireland.

Speaker 6 (01:37:36):
People on my show may not want to hear Kathy Ireland,
but I don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
By the way, funniest thing ever, so my mom's husband like,
couldn't care less than I do, sports talk, rat or anything.
Kind of not a big deal, none of that. Kathy
Ireland follows me on Twitter. This dude started blowing me
up at the just say He's like, holy crab. Kathy
Ireland follow you over, this is like the biggest news
in his life ever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
You know what, whatever works, whatever works, well you get
to come up with the many colts. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
I had that Smith and Steve Vale from the school
board in earlier that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Nail Kramer and there's Keith.

Speaker 6 (01:38:07):
No, no, no, it's Kramer is DDI, Matt Keaton, Keaton.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
I think, wait, no, he's not. He's not Batman. No,
it's not that, that's the pointment.

Speaker 6 (01:38:18):
I actually on my blogs at Mandy's blog dot com
have my choices for Denver Public school Board, Cherry Creek Schools,
jeff Co Schools, and Douglas County Schools and some of
the other races. You guys, I looked at so many
school board races that I would not vote for either
of those candidates, like if it was even competitive, right,
A lot of those races are being completely unchallenged, But

(01:38:40):
you look at the candidate, it's like one is bad,
one is just as bad in terms of the policies
that they want to embrace.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
So it's just I was just when I put out
the invite for everybody we got, you know, we only
had two.

Speaker 6 (01:38:50):
People welcome to this Welcome to this world. Nobody wants
to People going on with someone who might challenge them
or press them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Are long gone. Yeah, long gone.

Speaker 6 (01:39:01):
Especially I'm just gonna say it on the democratic side
of the aisle. They will not put themselves in a
position to be challenged.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
It texts like do you wear shoes in the house, Like,
I don't even wear socks. I'm barefoot in the house.
I wear shoes all the time at all times.

Speaker 6 (01:39:13):
Well, because I when I was fifty years old, so
six years ago now, I was diagnosed with finally after
being asked for this for years and being told by
doctors I was crazy. One of my legs is eleven
millimeters longer than the other one, and that's significant and
it's caused a tremendous amount of back and hip issues
for me. So now I have a lift in my

(01:39:34):
shoe that is a correction to seven millimeters, which is
the most they can correct for, but it makes such
a huge difference for me to and I have to
wear shoes all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Now. Wow, So I realize that's TMI, but that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Well, Dragon Dragon was getting on me for and then
the turning the water off in the shower and letting
marinade for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Mid people are apopleptic at me because I.

Speaker 6 (01:39:56):
You turn the shower off for what purpose?

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Because I mean it's I just don't want scalding water
on me for like while I'm letting it marinade.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Letting what marinate the clee agent.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
That I'm using on my on my physical persons, Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
Say to lie shower use I've got a silicone. I've
got a silicone.

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
It's like it's one thing to let the conditioner work
in your hair, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
It doesn't work on that thing I've got. I've got
liquid soap that I use on the silicone thing. And
I want to let it. I want to let it
know that not yeah, you know, I don't want to
just I'm not just sitting using my hand. You wouldn't
wash your car with your hand. You got to anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
We'll get into that next time. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Guys being along for the ride here on the Rosskaminsky Show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
All right, Mannico up next year on ka