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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Morrow evening, I'm going to go see David Verne in concert.
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David Byrne from Talking Heads. I'm gonna go see him
in concert. My sister's coming to town, if if all
the stuff the FAA is doing doesn't mess up her
flight coming in from Charlotte, North Carolina. My sister's come
into town, and then we're gonna she and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I'm gonna take her to see David Byrne.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I got the tickets, and nobody else in my family
wanted to go, and my sister said, I'm thinking of
coming to visit. I'm like, you want to go to
see David Byrne with me? And she said sure, So, so.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That'll be an awesome concert, I hope.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
So I've never seen him. I've never seen him.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Talking Heads, have you no, But I mean seems like
a good performer. I've seen him on SNL, I guess,
and yeah all over the place there.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
A few people have asked me for an update on
our little doggie, Agnes, so let me just give you
an update. I mentioned maybe a week ago that when
when Kristin got home from whatever she was doing some day. No,
she is more well, more than a week ago, it's
three weeks ago. Agnes was limping badly and couldn't put
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wight on her right rear leg no visible injury, and
we took Agnes to the VET and the VET said,
could be a bad sprain, could be a could be
ligament damaged, ruptured ligament partially, or torn ligament.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So you know, the vets said, give her a little time,
give her.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Some anti inflammatory, kind of like a doggy version of ibuprofen,
and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And it just isn't getting better. So I found.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
A doggie surgeon who specializes in this stuff, who I like.
There's actually quite a few of them, and I took
Agnes to this VET yesterday, to the surgeon yesterday, and
the VET said, based on the X ray, Agnes needs
surgery and they had a cancelation. So they are normally
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booking like two weeks out, but actually Agnes is going
to go in for the surgery tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh here, let me just tell you it's a little
nerdy thing, actually kind of interesting. So the ligament in
question is the doggy equivalent of the ACL in humans. Now,
when you rupture, when a human like an NFL player
is a fairly common injury for NFL players, ruptures an ACL.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The surgeon goes in there.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And fixes it, and then you do all this physical
therapy and then you know, you come back to the next
season if you can.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's usually a season and a injury.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
With dogs, they don't repair the ligament because apparently it's
some combination of difficulty, but also the ligament just won't
be strong enough in the way the dog's anatomy is.
It's just a very high chance that the ligament will
just tear again. So instead they do some kind of
surgery where they cut a particular shape out of the
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bottom of I think it's the bottom of the upper
bone at the knee, so that it fits slightly different
with the top of the lower bone that would come
up there, and then they attach a piece of metal
on the inside with three screws.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
On the bottom of the bottom bone.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Three screws on the top bone that holds those two
bones in a place where they can then swivel like
a knee should without needing the ligament. So they don't
repair the ligament. They they change the shape of the
bone and put in some kind of metal implant that
replaces the function of the ligament and it's actually it's
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pretty cool technology. And I found what I think is
the least expensive place that I believe does a very
good job based on online reviews and based on talking
to the surgeon myself. And it's four thousand dollars, which
I actually that's less than I thought it was going
to be. Still hurts, though, still hurts a lot. Okay,
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let me tell you this thing. Okay, check this out.
Here's I'm just telling you these boring little stories because
we're friends, and it's just like we're sitting around and
you know, shooting the you know what for a few
minutes here and then I do have an interesting guest
on a completely different subject in just a couple of minutes.
So Zach, you can go for that, zoom in a
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little bit, and I'll get the meeting started.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But wait, what was I talking about? I was, I was,
I was going somewhere with this.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know, all right, So anyway we'll see how
how oh I know what I was gonna say. Okay,
so I was thinking myself, gosh, I wish I had
pet insurance.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Now, pet insurance is pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Expensive and on the other hand, pet care is really
expensive and pet surgery is really expensive, and pet insurance
can easily be you know, between eighty and one hundred
and fifty dollars a month depending on your dog. And
let's say it's even toward the low end of that range,
talking about one thousand dollars a year, which is kind.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Of a lot, especially if your dog never gets sick.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And you do that for you know, a few years,
and you've spent three thousand dollars on pet insurance and
I was thinking to myself, gosh, it would be awesome
if I had pet insurance.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Unfortunately I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And then so Zach you you know this, like we're
in this open enrollment period for within iHeart, where you
choose you know, what health insurance plan you want, and
what dental insurance plan you want, and if you want
disability insurance and life insurance and all this, and you
just go online on this particular website that's associated with
what we're doing here at iHeart, and you go through
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and you make your choices. And one of the things
that iHeart offers that gets you a modest discount over
the full retail price is pet insurance. And as I'm
going through that and I'm I'm looking at it and
and it says something like, do you want to continue
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with the pet insurance you already have?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And I'm like, wait, what did I say yes to
this last year? And it turns out I did, and
I have.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Pet insurance for Agnes. And we'll see how this all
plays out. But as I look at the policy, it
looks like I have a five hundred dollars deductible and
then they pay eighty percent above that. So if that's right,
and just to make the math real easy, let's say
it's four thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I pay the five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Deductible, and then they they pay eighty percent of the
thirty five hundred, which is what twenty eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So if they pay they pay.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Twenty eight hundred, I'll end up paying seven. I'll end
up paying twelve hundred, They'll end up paying twenty eight hundred,
and that twenty eight hundred will have covered my cost
of pet insurance for basically three years. So even if
I never need to use the pet insurance again, right
for two more years, because I've had it for a year,
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I'm at least breaking even and so it hurts a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Less than I was expecting it to hurt, Zach, because
I forgot that I had pet insurance.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's a lifesaver. That's great to have.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Can you imagine if I never remembered I had pet
insurance and I just paid the four thousand dollars and
then never remembered about it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
That's how dumb I am. That's how bad my memory is.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Squirrel, I'm in a similar boat there.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh man, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
All right, I'm gonna get this zoom going because I'm
looking forward to this next conversation. And now I hope
you don't mind my wasting your time a little bit
there with that story.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
But we're friends, and a lot of people have asked me.
You know, I love the fact that I.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Love the fact that at least as many people ask
me on an ongoing basis, like if I'm if one
of my pets is having a problem, more people will
text him to say, Ross, how's Agnes? Or before Reuben
passed away, Ross, how's Reuben? Then will ask me, you know,
what do you think about such and such a political
thing or whatever? And I love that, you know, it's
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really about like, you know, sitting here talking with my
friends in the morning, and I think that's just a
wonderful thing. And I hope you enjoy it too, and
I hope you, you know, keep it going with me
starting next Monday, when my show moves from this time
slot to six am to nine am.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
All right, let's do something completely different.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I mentioned to you that I forget when a week
ago Ish.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I had the chance to go to the.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Big annual fundraiser event for Jewish Colorado. And I've been
there a couple times now to this event, and the
reason that I mentioned it to you is it's at
Wings over the Rockies. And what a spectacular place Wings
Over the Rockies is. If you have a chance to
get there, you absolutely should kind of in the Lowry neighborhood,
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and it's fantastic. And Wings over the Rockies, working with
Rocky Mountain PBS, has a television series called Behind the Wings.
It's been nominated for an Emmy four different times. They're
starting season seven tonight actually, and joining me to talk
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about it is Kraneovic, who is the man behind the
project and the director of this series. And I just
love this stuff. So Craig, first of all, Welcome to Kaowa.
Thanks so much for being here, being here.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Thanks Ross, It's great to be here.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
And yeah, I couldn't ask for a warmer introduction here.
And I mean it kind of goes to show Wings
over the Rockies.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
We're more than a museum. We make a TV show.
How many air and space museums say they can do that?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Yeah, And it's really about telling the stories behind the airplanes.
And with this show, viewers really get to come face
to face with the technologies and the people shaping the
future flight.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And with season seven.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
We have four new episodes that we're really excited to
show starting tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, starting tonight at seven pm on Rocky Mountain PBS.
And so we get for people have never seen an episode,
just talk a little bit more about what an episode
looks like. And then I want to ask you what's
involved in making these shows?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But start with the first question.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
I mean, each episode kind of pulls back the curtain
on one of the most exciting corners of aerospace from
this past year. And what I love and one of
my favorite parts in making the show is that the
technology is super cool in itself. For example, in this episode,
we covered an asteroid sample return mission. That means going
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billions of miles to an asteroid, landing on it, collecting
a sample, bringing it back to Earth, and really discovering
some of the secrets of the biggest questions, how did
life start on Earth? Where did we come from? And
that's the coolest thing ever. But then you look at
the people that do it, the scientists, the engineers, you know,
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the spacecraft designers, some of which, by the way, are
right here in Colorado with Lockey Martin's which is pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And just these people pushing the boundaries.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
It's so inspiring what people are capable of and the creativity,
the curiosity that it takes to make these really mind
blowing projects and missions happen.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Was that a fun trip for you going out to
an asteroid and picking up some dust off of it?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Well, you know us, a lot of our filming happens
here on planet Earth, believe or not. But that's just
we get I mean, we're inside the labs and getting
an up close look at what they call ben ut
which is this you know, the way they test what's
in the lab. And so whether we're inside the lab,
we're going into the F sixteen factory in Greenville, South Carolina,
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where they're still building these legendary jets. I mean, we're
not going to space, but we're taking viewers to really
inside the stories, and I think that's what's really exciting
for people to see on screen.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
For sure, we're talking with Kranovic, who is the director
of the behind the Wings series for Wings Over the Rockies.
And again, if you've never been to Wings over the Rockies,
you got to go.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Bring your kids.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Tell tell me a little about the partnerships the collaborations
involved in making this show.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Absolutely, I mean, we can't do it without our collaborator. Collaborators,
they're the people who help share the stories. One example,
I have to shout out our awesome host, Tracy Latorette,
call Sign Jackie Oh, she's Colorado's first Lady Fighter pilot.
Flu F sixteen's right here with the Colorado inter National Guard.
And so to have the opportunity to go to Buckley
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and see these birds that first came out fifty years
ago and they're still flying, and I got to tell you, like,
the maintainers are magicians. They're redoing the code, they're restructuring
the wings and to keep a plane that is fifty
years old, but it's still relevant and so yeah, for
every episode, we really can't do it without the collaborators,
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you know, NASA centers, the University of Arizona. Really the
people again, the people who are making these missions happen.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
That's how we tell these stories.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Have you done an episode on the Harrier that you
have there in the museum, or in any Harrier, It
didn't have to be that one.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
So yeah, I mean the Harrier of course, that's our
latest aircraft here it wins over the Rockies.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And we've done we really told the story on YouTube.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
In addition to PBS, we produce a podcast with over
sixty episodes, and we do these monthly YouTube web series.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
So you know, if you're interested in that story.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
We kind of showed the process of how does a
military jet become a museum exhibit, and we kind of
documented that whole story where a whole team of marines
flew into Buckley, took out all the sensitive stuff, put
it back together, and then made that you know, journey
from Buckley on a flatbed trailer, which for the drivers
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out there that day, I'm sure they were.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
A little shocked. What was cosmic traffic that day.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Yeah, so we haven't done that on PBS yet, but
you know, we're spooling up. And that's one of the
favorite most exciting parts of this is looking ahead at
what stories are there, because I'll tell your us, there's
no shortage.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Of awesome things to cover in the world of aerospace.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right and and the Harrier is really unique or at
least darn close to unique airplane the way the way
it operates, So I think that could be a really
cool show. All right, I have a ridiculous question for you.
So your first name Cray c r A Y. Is
that what's on your birth certificate? Is it a nickname?
Is it short for something? Because I've never seen that
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one before and it's super interesting, So what is it?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
So a lot of people think it's short for crazy.
I'm only crazy a little bit of the time.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
It is my real name, and it was actually a
family last name that my parents kind of had the
cool idea to switch and make it a first name.
So you know, if you look on the ide eighth,
that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Very cool.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
All right, one more time, tell listeners when and how
they can watch this new season of Behind.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
The Wings absolutely.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Season seven of Behind the Wings comes out starting tonight
at seven pm. You can watch it on Rocky Mountain PBS.
You can check it out on Wings over the Rockies
YouTube channel. We've got four awesome episodes, the Hurricane Hunters,
the International Space Station, fifty Years of the F sixteen,
and this amazing journey to Asteroid Venue and back. So
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for the full stories, you guys will have to check
those out, and I think you're really going to enjoy
what you see there.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Absolutely we will.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Chray Noovic, thanks for your time, Thanks for making such
a great TV show. Congratulations on multiple Emmy nominations as well.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
That's not easy to do. Great to meet you.