11-19-25 - *FULL SHOW* Chris Stirewalt; 427-1; Smart Wolf; Right to Work

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I just want to get right to it. I

(00:01):
rarely start the show with.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A guest, but when the best political analyst in America
is available at a particular time, you take him, despite
the fact that he likes pink blue cheese salad dressing.
Chris Steierwalt is the political editor at News Nation and
hosts a great Sunday show called The Hill Sunday. And
I do think he's the best political analyst in America.
I say it even when he can't hear me. Good morning, Chris.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I don't need this kind of heat, man. I don't
need to start my Wednesday with this kind of heat.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
I can't take the pressure. It's too much. I can't
do it.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
All right.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
There are lots of things I could ask you, but
we got like eight.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Minutes, so I'm gonna jump to I'm gonna jump to this.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Does the Epstein thing? And I'm not dragging you into
the nuts and bolts the Epstein thing. Does the Epstein thing,
along with a few other things that are that are
going on right now, suggest to you that Donald Trump
is losing his grip on something, as so many breathless
headlines seem to be saying right now in the usual

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sorts of media outlets, or is that just what those
media outlets hope is the case.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, there's a new Marits pole out today that says
that Democrats, who hadn't had a significant lead in the
generic ballot for control of Congress next year, in three years,
I have a fourteen point lead.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You can say it's ebscene files. You can say it's affordability.
I hate that word. You can say it's corruption, you
can say it's the East wind, you can say whatever
you want. But it's just the too much, right, It's
just too much. There's just too many things. And I
think that the problem of the imaginary Trump, in which Republicans,

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after four years of Joe Biden and Tom Harris were like,
you know, we said things, he said things, but really
the good times were actually very good, but they forgot
as we do. You know, our capacity to forget pain
is extraordinary, otherwise there would be no second children. And

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Republicans said, this is so terrible. Donald Trump couldn't be
worse than that. He gets in and for the first
I don't know when do we mark the moment. It's
before the asking files. Every president has it. For Biden,
it turned out that it was in September of his
first year with the Afghanistan debacle. But the honeymoon's over,

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the do is off the lily, and now you're onto like, Okay,
what have you done for me lately? And that moment
for Trump came pretty early, right because.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
He was Liberation Day.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, that definitely was a big part of it, right,
So I think it's more like that, yes, April April May,
and then people are like, okay, what have you done
for me lately? And the answer has been an extraordinarily
distracted Like if you think about the government shutdown, the

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Republicans can say that they won in the sense that
the Democrats eventually knuckled under and there were enough Senate
Democrats to reopen the government until January, But in the
larger scheme, what did we do? How did people feel
about the direction of things? How did people feel about
how it was going? And they felt bad and it

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wasn't good for the economy, and it was more uncertainty,
and it was all of that stuff. So it's been
a very rough runt.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So you and I both don't like the word affordability,
but whatever word we would like to use or no
word at all. It is still the main thing people
vote on most of the time, unless you're like at
the beginning of a big shooting war. And it seems
to me that Trump is making the same mistake Joe
Biden did, which is denying what people are experiencing every

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time they walk into the supermarket. And also that the
one policy he is overtly aggressively engaged in, namely the
terriffs everybody knows, actually raises costs rather than lower.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
So is this of his many achilles heels.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
If a guy can have nine heels, is this is
his biggest one, his riskiest one.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I work in Washington, so I know a lot of heels,
But the economy. People's attitude about the economy is not specific.
So remember, just for your for your frame, you have
a third of the people who would vote for Donald

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Trump if he bludgeoned a baby seal to death in
the Oval office with the gold bar are that the
Swiss brought him and they would say that steal deserved it.
You have a third of the people that would have
voted for Joe Biden right if they would have if
they would have brought Joe Biden out out of Gurney

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and they would have said, Yep, I'm still voting for him.
How elections get decided are the people in the governing
third the people in between, and for those people, they're
not that ideological, and many of them are not following
the news that closely. Probably people who pay attention to
stuff that I say, whether they are Republicans or Democrats,

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they're paying attention and they probably have strong opinions. The
people who make up who choose and decide the elections
are getting their news. And I say this with no
intended denigration of the Today Show, but they're like getting
their news from the Today Show, right, They're like, oh, Okay,
I heard something happen today. How do I feel about it?

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Which is all a very long way of answering your question. Yes,
that people base their perceptions of how things are going
by how they're going in their own lives.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
We're talking with Chris Steierwolf, political editor and anchor of
The Hill Sunday on News Nation.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Got about two minutes left.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I want to go back to a slightly different version
of my first question because I think it's important and interesting,
and so I'll reword it this way, and I'll make
this sort of a two parter, but it's really the
same thing. How close is Donald Trump to being a
lame duck? And how soon do you think it will
be that we start seeing members of Congress beyond just

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the very strong personality, people like MTG and Thomas Massey
kind of tiptoeing away from Trump as part of their
own effort at self preservation for next year's elections.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, the primary election season begins. Filing periods are already open,
and primary election season will begin in earnest in February,
and the shank of primary elections February to let's say July.
There are some late ones, but it's a spring in

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summer mostly where you have primary elections. Donald Trump's approval
rating currently is at forty percent or below on average.
We have new polls out and I haven't done the
new numbers, but he is not pontular with the broader
electric He's still eighty whatever percent with Republicans and the
politicians who oppose him. So take Thomas Matthew. Thomas Matthey

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has to treat Donald Trump as a credible threat. Thomas
Matthew's district is like eighty percent Republicans that means that
eighty percent of eighty percent of people in his district
probably really like Donald Trump. And so the moment where
Donald Trump becomes a lame duck is I don't know,

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fourth of July something like that. You've got to get
through the primary where Trump will exercise his power. Now
whether or not he becomes a lamb duck or how
soon he becomes a lab duck will depend on how
his candidates do in primaries. Does he beat Massey, does
he beat Marjorie Taylor Green? Can he deliver in Georgia?

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Where are the places where Donald Trump picks candidates and wins,
especially when he can beat incumbents. If he does a
bunch of that, then he's still got plenty of cloud.
If he has a bad run and Thomas Massey stays
and Derrek Dooley wins down in Georgia a bunch of
other stuff like that, then Republicans will move into the

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general election and they will say, Okay, we got to
have distance from because even if things go back to
how they were five months ago for Donald Trump, there'll
still be a liability in the general election, and it'll
be in the interests of a big chunk of Republicans
to have more distance.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Chris Steierwalt, political editor and anchor of The Hill Sunday
on News nation best political analysts in America, despite his
taste in sala, addressing thanks for making time for us,
my friend.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I always appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Heck, yeah, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Have a great day, all right, you two?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Chris Gosh, I really really love that guy. I learned
so much from him, and now it's time to learn
a little bit from Gina. So much to talk about today.
This is Ross on the News with Gina and producer
Dragon behind the Glass. Hi, Gena, I didn't really say
hello because I jumped right into that interview.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Sorry about that good, crazy, crazy morning.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I actually I worked out, you know, around five o'clock
when you started the show. It actually was listening and
you got a lot of stuff to talk about today.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, funny. I actually was.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna
ask you a little inside baseball question.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Kay.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I was wondering from from a perspective, who doesn't know
how you do what you do when you have a
day like this where there's really lots of headlines but
maybe not one like the world is exploding headline that's
dominating everything. How do you choose and organize what you're
going to talk about and when you're going to talk

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about it, and how you know this one's going to
go here and this one's going to go fifteen min
minutes later.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Right, how do you do That's a that's a great question. Ross.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, it's days like this are happen often, and you
kind of have to decide, well, what are the biggest
talkers right now? And obviously nationally Jeffrey Epstein files has
been the biggest talker, So we've been leading with.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That, and we'll talk more about it, and then we'll get.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Local reaction from some of our lawmakers, everybody that voted
obviously to pass to see them be released. So we
have that kind of set up, and then some of
the secondary stories I try to get in Sandwich and
really shorten them, so stories that it's like, Okay, you
want to hear these, you need to know about these,
but we're not going to.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Go as much in depth. That's when I'm trying to
cover a lot of the shorter ones in there.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, you made me go look up what the
painting was that sold for two hundred and thirty six
million dollars A good stuff clemped pay Day called some
lady's name. I think quite a gorgeous painting actually, but
two hundred and you know, maybe two hundred thirty six
six million.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I wonderful ever find out who bought it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Anyway, I really enjoyed listening to you while I was
working out today, so I wanted to ask you about that.
You know what, I'm going to take a minute, since
Gina has mentioned it, to talk about the Epstein thing,
And in a sense, I'm a little tired of talking
about it. But obviously, as Gina just said, that's the
main news today. So yesterday the House voted four hundred
and twenty seven to one to release the Epstein files.

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They sent it along to the Senate, and the Senate
used this thing called unanimous consent.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And what that is.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
A senator can say, I propose that by unanimous consent,
we do such and such a thing, and if nobody objects,
then it passes. If even one senator objects, then it
doesn't pass that way. And if they want to vote
on it, then they have to take it to a
vote of the Senate.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Nobody objected to passing that.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
House bill, and so it passed really fast, just a
few hours after the House did their thing, and they
sent it to the President, who hasn't signed it yet.
There's some very interesting dynamics going on here, given that
it was unanimous in the Senate and almost unanimous, only
one no vote.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
In the House.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And by the way, I think that guy was pretty courageous.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I'm gonna talk about him in a second.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But given the fact that it went that way, you
would think that there is a lot of pressure on
Donald Trump to go ahead and sign it, and there
definitely is. There's an interesting dynamic taking place in that
the House.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Wanted to change some things.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, is making
some noises along the lines that he might encourage Donald
Trump not to sign it and to send it back
to Congress to get a couple of things changed. We
haven't talked about it on the show, but the Senate
snuck a thing into their bill to reopen the government

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that allows senators who had their telephone records looked into
by the FBI during the Biden administration to sue the
government for half a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So these senators can enrich themselves.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
And I'm not saying it was cool that they went
and that the FBI went and looked at their phone records,
but the idea that these guys are then going to
sue the government and collect half a million dollars a
tax payer money is nonsense. And it was snuck into
the bill. People didn't know about it. The House did,
and then it was sent to the House, and the
House is kind of stuck, like, we got to open
the government, but this poison pill is in there. They

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voted to open the government, but they want that thing out,
so we'll see. I think Trump will sign it, but
I just wanted you to be a little bit aware
of that kind of undercurrent. The other thing, I got
about one minute to do this here, so let me
do this quick. The one guy who voted no is
a representative named Clay Higgins. He is from Louisiana. He's

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very conservative and strong Trump supporter. And here's what he said.
He said, I've been a principal know on this bill
from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three
months ago was still wrong today. It abandons two hundred
and fifty years of criminal justice procedure in America has written.
The bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses,

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people who provided alibis, family members. If enacted in its
current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative
files released to a rabid media will absolutely result in
innocent people being hurt.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Not by my vote.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
He goes on to talk about the Oversight Committee already
doing a bunch of work, already releasing over sixty thousand
pages of material, and so on and on x.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Some folks added that.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
The bill is a little different than what Higgins is claiming.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
He says, they say the bill includes.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Redactions for victims and uninvolved individuals. Massey explained, victims can't
release names do the lawsuits forcing them into homelessness, so
the risk of being sued for that kind of thing,
and the petition was not yet eligible three months ago. Anyway,
I think Higgins is mostly right, but we will see
when this information comes out if they really do enough

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to protect innocent people, to protect people whose names are
in the files, but not because they did anything wrong,
not because they got even close to doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
That's the thing that worries me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
There's a lot of information that needs to get out,
but it needs to be done in a way that
protects the innocent. We had a couple quick words and
then more Gina on the news keep it here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think I know why you're doing that.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Just one very quick thing for a producer Dragon. I
want you to note that in the last news broadcast,
Gina said that with the weather's that's coming, it's time
to put away the shorts and get pants.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Never going to happen. Are you guys the type that
are wearing shorts?

Speaker 6 (15:54):
Oh, you don't know this about producer Dragon really, even
in the snow, Ross, this has seen me wear pants twice.
And we've been together for five years and never at work?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Correct? Why never at work?

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Three times because we did the cbas right were at work,
we were out right, we were out and then twice
in Egypt.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm Ross and you that's Gina, and that's Dragon and
we're all hanging out with you this morning at Ross
on the news with Gina, and thanks for spending a
little time with us.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I appreciate it. We have a ton of stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Dragon played some chicken music there, and this is kind
of a cool story. And I want to first set
the macro thing. A lot of times in businesses, and
you probably think of this with technology in particular, but
in lots of other businesses, there are things that the
business knows how to do that it's very important that
they keep secret because it's how they make money. Right. So,

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how did Google make at least for many many years
and maybe still the best search engine?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't know, And they're not going to tell you.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
How did TikTok make the most addictive algorithm? Now you
might not like that they did, but they've been unbelievably successful.
How does that algorithm work?

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You don't know, and you're never gonna know, right, You're
never gonna know. How about coca cola? Do you know
what's in coca cola?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I mean you see all those chemicals listed on the
side of the can or the bottle, but then there's
a bunch of stuff that'll say like natural and artificial flavors,
And that's not very descriptive, is it. And that's the
stuff that makes the flavor. And do you know what's
in it?

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
And you're never going to And these things are trade secrets.
They're not even patented because you can look up a patent,
so it's a trade secret that they don't ever want
you to know. And I saw this story in the
Wall Street Journal. Gina, did you send me the story
or did I just stumble.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
On it about you stumbled on? Okay, I think I
stumbled on it.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
So, so the headline here is how America's Hotes chicken
chain keeps its secret sauce a secret, and it's about
Raising Canes. And I will say, just for the record,
I really like Raising Cane's food, but the price has
gone up a lot and the size of the pieces
of chicken has gone down a lot, so I don't
eat there as much as I used to.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
And the lines, that's one of the restaurants where I
feel like the drive through lines are always crazy walk too.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
It's up there with in an out.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Burger yep, right, yeah, Okay, So check this out.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
This is from This is from the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
A list handwritten some thirty years ago by the co
founder of Raising Cane's Chicken Fingers is the only physical
copy of the recipe for the chickens famous sauce. It
is locked in a safe at an undisclosed location.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Few people have ever seen it.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And while copycat recipes and alleged leaks from disgruntled employees abound,
the company says that only those who have seen the
list really know how to make the sauce. And then
there's other kinds of security protocols, non disclosure agreements, And
how about this when they make the sauce at the stores.

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But how do they make the sauce at the stores?
They get sent these packages of spice mixes and other
things that are not labeled as far as what's in them.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know, I'm guessing maybe they have a number.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
And then the instructions say, you know, use this much
of package number one, but it doesn't actually say what's
in package number one. And then at the stores, only
the managers are allowed to mix the sauce, even using
those unlabeled packages.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
It really is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Like as the Wall Street Journal puts it, only managers
are allowed to mix it, and each one has to
sign an NDA promising not to reveal what they've learned.
But even they don't know much. Isn't that an interesting
thing that this little couple tablespoons of sauce are what
restaurant chains success is attributed to.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Do you.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I mean it sounds like you you like the place, Jesus,
don't brave the lines all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, I mean I barely eat. Oh yeah, you're not.
You don't get that anyway. Aactly husband eat it. Uh yeah,
he loves raising canes.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I mean it's it's a pretty I think that's a
good place to get chicken at least one of the
best places that you can really go here in the South.
Zaxby's was where it was at Zaxby's locations. But it
also just literally sounds like the whole premise of SpongeBob
and the formula for the Crabby Patty, because it's literally
the way that you described it, how the formula is
stored for the crabby patties.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
So maybe they just took it from that. But best ever,
when you.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Look at the Kenes dipping sauce, just like with the
AI oversview, they pretty much just say because obviously they
have to give some ingredients to make sure you're not
allergic to things, right, Okay, mayo ketchup, Worcestershire sauce. Seasonings
like garlic, powder, salt, and black pepper. That's all you
can see.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Right, And it's probably just people guessing there is this
thing about Worcester. Shehar sauce like being being a part
of the recipe. I don't know if they know that
for sure, but it does taste like it's in there.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Have you ever tasted the sauce? Uh yeah, yeah, I
think it's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
I don't think it's anything that I would like fight
for the formula for because it's like, I don't know,
it's another dipping sauce, but I think it's better than Now.
I'm a ramch girly. I always just pretty much dip
everything in ranch uh huh. So it's not my favorite,
but it's all right.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
They quote a guy in this article named Lolo Lamb,
who says on multiple occasions he has ordered a twenty
two ounce cup of the sauce.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
He's from Alabama, unsurprisingly.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And uses a quarter of it for the actual meal
and takes the rest home, transfers it to clear soup containers,
and then puts it on everything from burgers to steak
to bird ETOs.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Wow. Yeah, that's too much. That's a little too much.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You can text us at five six six nine zero
and tell us absolutely anything at all that you want
to say about cane sauce. But I really like this.
I have to say I really liked it as a
business story. Just how secret they keep it. There's only
one written copy of the recipe. It's in a safe
managers only make the sauce and they don't even know
what they're mixing.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
I just think it's an amazing story.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Listener texted in to say, Ross one of the secret
ingredients and this sauce is blue cheese.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
No, I don't think so. Folks.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
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They are also the same kinds of.

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we just have two or three minutes here, and you

(23:20):
know what, Gina, I would like you to just very
briefly introduce Brenda because I heard about this from you
in the news this morning. Brenda said she had a
strong personal interest in it. So can you just set
this up for us, and then I want to hear
Brenda's story.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Yeah, So, our KOA newsroom editor Brenda Stewart here joining
us in the studio is David Caylee was covering this
at the Capitol yesterday as a protest was taking place
with autism advocates that were really suing Governor Polis for
his plans to cut Medicaid funded services and Brenda.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Not only do you have this tie.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
From a news perspective, but you have it from a
personal perspective as well, because this is a story that
may just be coming to light for some KOA listeners
right now, but this is something that you've been advocated,
well pushing against when it came.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
For years ago, well about twenty years ago.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
I testified in front of a Senate committee when they
were considering putting some Medicaid dollars aside for early intervention
for kids with autism. A lot of kids are diagnosed
why about the age of two when you notice something's wrong.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
And what they wanted to do was take.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
The money and put it into early intervention, which is
ABA training one on one. An autistic child learns one
on one the best. And I went and testified and
I got you know, I think I was motivated. My
daughter came home from kindergarten, I think it was, and
said to me, there's a girl in my class who

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doesn't speak English or Spanish, and I said, well, does
she speaks?

Speaker 1 (24:50):
She doesn't. She just kind of grunts and flaps her
hands a lot.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
And I said, honey, she's she's got autism like your brother,
you know, Jack, And she goes.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Oh yeah, I led Jack used to and I went,
what do you mean used to, because.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
Well Jack speaks now, I got yeah, honey, Because we
have put thousands of dollars into early training. When I
read about a program out of UCLA, I flew a
worker in and spent thousands of dollars on I hired
college students who got college credit terrants, and I paid

(25:25):
them to work with him one on one, and I
had to pay for their training as well.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
It flew in a worker to train them. We spent
We took a second.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
Mortgage out on the house in order to pay for this,
and we sat all of us with him and he
would take turns one on one.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
That's how he learns. My son is now independent.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
He works, he takes the bus and light rail to
and from work. He's not a burden on taxpayers because
he is a taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
He earns his money. And the way I.

Speaker 8 (25:56):
Look at it, cutting those funds is being penny wise
and pound and foolish, because what it does is you
take away that early intervention, and what you're going to
have is people who are going to be relying on
public services and public tax money later in life because
they're not going to be independent. And I think if

(26:17):
you catch them young, you can teach these children how
to respond, how to speak, how to advocate for themselves,
to be productive in school, to be productive in the workplace.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
And it bothers me.

Speaker 8 (26:32):
I realize that our budget shortfalls, Colorado and the rest
of the country is facing a huge budget deficit that
is only going to get worse if people need to
rely on the system later.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
These are the questions that the politicians are going to
have to debate. These are some of the most difficult issues.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
With If asked, I will go testify again.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
I can bring my son with me, who can show
he's a productive member of society.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now, thanks for sharing that story with us. Brenda Stewart
KOA news editor takes a quick break. We'll be right
back on KOA. Actually not much of a break. We're
going to have just a couple words and then Gina
is going to tell us what's going on.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
In the news.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't usually spend a lot of time on the
show on national political issues that aren't really up for
a vote just yet, but sometimes something comes along that
I think is so important it's worth talking about just
to raise everybody's attention to it and hopefully it will
come up for a vote. And Bill Cassidy, who is
a Republican Senator from Louisiana, has been working on a

(27:30):
bunch of bills to update and modernize and add a
little more freedom to American labor laws. And I guess,
unsurprisingly one of his opponents is the worst Republican by
far in the US Senate, a guy named Josh Hawley,
who might as well be a Democrat on most issues.
But I care a lot about this stuff, but probably

(27:53):
not as much as Mark Mix does. Mark Mix is
president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation,
and he joins us for a few minutes just to
kind of help us understand this issue and where it
might be going.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Hey, Mark, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
Hey Ross, good to be with you, and thanks for
that introduction.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You nailed it.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
I mean, this is kind of an update and a
freshening of labor policy that was written back in the
nineteen thirties, and I think most people would agree that
the workplace has changed, and the so called balance of
labor versus capital has changed, and it's about time that
we had a debate about issues that have heretofore given
unique powers to union officials over workers.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
And of course Donald.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
Trump talked about supporting workers' rights and empowering workers in
this economy, and I think this labor policy package that
Kennedy Cassidy's introduced.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Is really an important part of that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
So just give us a brief thumbnail, because we only
got about four minutes here, So give us a brief
thumbnail of some of Cassidy's primary proposed reforms.

Speaker 7 (28:55):
Yeah, first and foremost, let's have secret bouot elections when
it comes to union certification. Let's protect the private data
of individual workers when unions are trying to organize people.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Let's protect workers.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
That would maybe be involved in a labor dispute and
step down the violence and intimidation that goes on picket lines.
Let's make sure that workers have an opportunity to basically
raise concerns in the workplace, and that they get the
freedom from this monopoly exclusive bargaining privileges that union officials
have been given again since nineteen thirty five. So that's

(29:27):
the package eight bills that basically say workers will have
more rights in the American workplace. And it's in contrast
to Josh Howay's bill that would allow the federal government
to impose contracts on private businesses for up to two years.
So really interesting debate between the two sides here.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So two quick follow ups.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Then, the second thing you mentioned in that list of
Cassidy's bills was about protecting private information. Does that mean
limiting the ability of union organizers to get things like
cell phone numbers in home ad addresses of workers so
that they can go intimidate.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Them exactly, That's exactly what it means. And Ross, We've
had a couple of businesses where, you know, we found
out that the union officials, in gathering intelligence like this
on workers that are trying to organize, have friends at
the DMV that run license plates and things like that,
cell phone numbers, work schedules, all that stuff is part
of that personal information that we think should be protected

(30:24):
and only given to union officials if someone wants to
give it to them.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So and I'll just say for the record, if you know,
more often than not, if large labor unions are in
favor of something, then I'm against it because I think
they're generally bad for the economy. They're anti freedom, they're
basically like at tax on society.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
And I'm not saying that that.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
You know, citizens should not be allowed to organize, right,
it's a free country. Although I don't think government workers
should be allowed to unionize. Private citizens can. But that
doesn't mean I have to like the unions, especially the
big ones. I don't really understand, well I do. I mean,
Josh Hawley is a socially conservative Democrat who's out there

(31:06):
living as a Republican, but he probably shouldn't be, and
he's the worst Republican in the Senate. Can you give
us a little sense of the bill that you just
mentioned that he's has as well. I don't know that
i'd call it an alternative, but you know what he's
trying to do along these lines.

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Well, ROSSI I know you follow this stuff pretty closely,
and whether you talk about or not is another issue.
But there was this bill in the last Congress called
the pro Act, which was terribly mortgags board of big
labor power, including the repeal of all the right to
work laws across the country. And what Josh Howy did
at the beginning of this session was breaking apart in
six different pieces and said he was going to start
introducing bills. One of the pieces of that was this

(31:43):
kind of forced arbitration of contract. Basically, what happens is
a union get certified, you must start negotiating within ten days.
If you don't have an agreement within ninety days of
all the conditions of employment ross that's the important part
about it, and including forced dues. Will workers be forced
to pay dues to a union to keep their jobs,
That's part of the negotiation. If you don't have that
done in ninety days, then a federal mediator bureaucrat will

(32:04):
come to you. They'll negotiate with you mediate and then
at the end of a thirty day period, if you
don't have an agreement on all the conditions of employment,
the federal government will impose a contract and a private
business for up to two years. That means the employees
don't get devoted, the employer doesn't get to vote on it.
The federal government says, this is how you will run
your business.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
For the next two years.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Wow, that's an insane bill, and doubly insane coming from
a Republican. But again, it's part of why I truly
can't stand as Josh Hawley. Mark Mix is president of
the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation NRTW dot org,
a wonderful and important organization. Thanks for being here, Mark,
and we'll keep up with you on this issue if

(32:43):
and as it progresses.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Thanks, Ross, appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay, good to have you when we come back. How
can a baseball cost that much? Welcome to Ross. On
the news, Gina found a very interesting story uber ski Yeah,
launches for some Colorado mountains, but it's gonna cost you. Now, Gina,
you get out to the mountains more often.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Than I do.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
I'm a little jealous of that, and not so far
this season, but it has not really been something that
you want to be going out much right now.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And normally do you just drive up or how do
you get there?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Well, a Texter said it yesterday and they hit the
nail on the head, right.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I usually take the snowstang.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
Okay, And if you remember, I had a story several
years ago now where.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I got stuck on it I remember many many hours.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
So now since I have a nicer car thanks to
JFR Cars, I will probably be driving most of the time.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
But Snowstang is also very convenient. Where does it leave from?
Where is that multiple RTD stops?

Speaker 5 (33:41):
So Union Station, the one outside Red Rocks I usually
pick it up just like fifteen minutes down the street.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Pretty much goes through all the RTD stops.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Wow, I think there's like three or four of them
in the downtown Denver area. And then they'll take you
to Breckenridge is the one that I usually take, but
then they have a bunch of.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Other icon or epic passes.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
It really vary, but twenty five bucks round trip, you
can't go wrong, especially when Breckenridge parking.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Is about that much money. Anyways, So this.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Article that I saw talking about the uber ski really
started the question more of like how much are you
willing to pay for a stress free experience getting to
the mountains? Because why I love the snowstand even though
sometimes I can have frustrations with it or it can
take forever. Is I can fall asleep on it, be
stuck in I seventy traffic and just show up at

(34:28):
Breckenridge and hit the slopes. Well, this uber ski thing
that they're launching, they say that it's going to have
stops in Keystone, from downtown Denver to Keystone and a
couple of other ones Veil and Breckenridge can take up
to four people with their ski gear. But according to
Fox thirty one, if you order the uber ski for

(34:49):
Wednesday morning downtown Denver to Keystone, it's going to cost
just under two hundred dollars for a ride, and that
does not include your ride home. So it's like, Okay,
you don't have to drive. You could split that amongst
three other people. Sure, but for that price, just take

(35:10):
the Snowstang. But also don't drive because when you drive
it's just chaotic.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I don't know, that's a lot of I mean, it's
a long drive, but that's a lot of money. Four
hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Round trip, I mean, even if you split it four ways,
one hundred bucks a person sounds like a lot, especially
because skiing is already such an expensive hobby.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Especially because that one's also Keystone. And don't want to
keep telling more people about why Keystone is so great,
But parking is free at Keystone and I usually take
the snowsting to the places where you've got to pay
a lot of money for parking.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
So I mean, I'm trying to get a handle on
how many different places this uber ski will go.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Can you just tell it take you, you know, anywhere?
Right now?

Speaker 5 (35:50):
It seems like it can do Veil, Keystone and Breckenridge, Okay,
And it's actually like a little spot on the app
where you go to uber ski and it has specific
pickup drop offs.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
But also I don't know how that works of like.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
If you have drivers that are willing to do that drive,
people are going to be declining if they look at
the ski traffic or look at the conditions and say
absolutely not, I'm not going you can pole.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
There's things they say three months in advance, right, yeah,
and then what if you do?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And then uh, and then what you just said happens?
And you know, like bus, if.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
I really do want to get up there on a
day where it's really bad on I seventy, do you
trust somebody else that you don't know driving well they.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Are a professional?

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Maybe? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:33):
All right, here's here's our question for you. Text us
at five six six nine zero. Here's here's what we
want to know. How much would you pay for a
round trip to and from a ski mountain just so
you wouldn't have to drive and you wouldn't have to park?
How much does it worth to you? Five six, six
nine zero. I owe you the story on how can
a baseball cost that much? And I'll share that with
you right after this, which will include Gina on the news.

(36:55):
Subscribed to like email blasts from an auction website called
Live Auctioneers, And I think that what they do is
they sort of aggregate online auctions from different auction houses
around the country. And every once in a while, you know,
I see an email and it has something interesting in it,
And this one really jumped out at me, and it

(37:19):
is a baseball that is signed by both Marilyn Monroe
and Joe DiMaggio.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
They were married for a while. They were married for
a while, and.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I mean, I think everybody knows both of them are.
I'm sure everyone knows who Marilyn Monroe is. If you're
under the age at thirty five, maybe you don't know Joe.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
DiMaggio is, but one of the greatest baseball players of
all time.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Fifty six game hitting streak, Anyway, those two got married
in nineteen fifty four, and it was just, you know,
it would be like the like the Travis Kelsey Taylor
Swift thing of today, right, a sports hero and a
you know, sort of beautiful woman. Anyway, they both signed
this baseball and it's up for auction right now. And

(38:08):
I saw at the time that I first brought up
this this web page, it showed something like fifteen hundred
dollars as the as the current bid. But it's got
a it's got a long time to go until the
auction ends. And I'm trying to I'm trying to look here.
When it ends, it says when it it says when

(38:29):
it starts, well it it actually it officially starts tomorrow,
maybe the live auction part. Okay, it looks like it's
gonna end tomorrow evening. And I think the serious people
really aren't in there yet because and this is the
part that jumped out in me. So the current bid
online is three thousand dollars. And I don't care much

(38:51):
about sports memorabilia, but I'd buy that for three thousand
dollars just without even knowing anything much about the value
of it, because it's the.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
A little cheap for that three grand.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
But what they have up near the top of the listing,
and I'm going to ask you to take a guest
before I tell you the number. But up near the
top of the listing they give an estimate for how
much they expect this baseball to go for based on
kinda sort of similar memorabilia that has been sold in
the past. So I want to ask you before I
tell you what they estimated at, what do you think

(39:27):
the number is? Actually they gave a range, but you
can just give a number. How much do you think
the auction house is estimating for this baseball? How much
they think it'll go for at auction tomorrow evening? A baseball,
a Spalding baseball signed by Joe DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe.
And by the way, I have a picture of it,

(39:47):
and the quality of the signature is very good. It's
a bright blue ink, really easy to read. It's really
easy to read both names. It's not some crazy scrawl
where you can say I have no I like, is
that real Joe Dimangio. It's super easy to read. So
what's your guess as to the amount the estimate on
this on this baseball Gena, do you have a guess

(40:09):
on how much on how much a baseball would go for?
And I'm not going to tell you yet either, because
then everybody will.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Know millions at least, wow, a couple million? Wow? Okay, Dragon,
did you already look at it? Do you already know?
I haven't looked at it? But you said the what
three thousand or something?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
But three thousand? But it's not it's not really open forbidding,
you know. It's a few stragglers going on, say maybe
fifty okay, so that's a huge range. So Dragon Dragon
has fifty grand and Gina has a couple million. I
want you to text us at five six, six nine
zero and tell me how much you think, uh, the
estimate is. I'm not saying how much will it go for,

(40:47):
although we'll come back later and look at it after.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
The auction is done.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
But what what's your guess on the estimate for how
much they think it will go for? I think it's
a very interesting number. One person says three thousand and
one dollar dollars and twenty five cents, So they're going
to outbid me by a dollar twenty five to get
the ball.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
Did you hear about the Rockies Otani three hundredth home
run ball caught at course Did you hear that story?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
No?

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Okay, So his three hundredth home run was caught by
a girl at course fields, right, and she sold that
one for forty four thousand, just over forty four thousand, Okay.
I don't know if that helps compare anything from a
current ball caught to what we're seeing in the past,
but forty four thousand.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
For that one, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That's pretty historic too, although this one feels more historic
to me.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
That's what I'm guesses. Are all over the place.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Text us at five six, six nine zero, and tell
me what you think.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Tell us what you think. So far, other than the three.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Thousand and one dollars and twenty five cents, the ranges.
The range goes from about twelve grand to about five million.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I'll tell you in a second.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'll tell you in a second, but just keep text
keep texting, and tell us.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
What you think. I want to just take like.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Ninety seconds on another story that I actually heard gena
cover this morning in Colorado's Morning News. And this is
about Meta, which used to be known as Facebook, but
Meta owns Facebook, and they own Instagram, and they own WhatsApp.
And some years ago Meta bought these companies, bought Instagram

(42:18):
and WhatsApp, and there was some thought that Meta was
buying them, or Facebook at the time was buying them
in order to crush them so that they couldn't compete
against Facebook. And it got through the federal government, it
got through the antitrust kind of stuff, and then a
few years later, some aggressive kind of anti tech people

(42:39):
in the Biden administration's FTC decided they didn't like it,
and they won it, and they decided to go after
Meta and try to get them to have.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
To divest or sell these things.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And then the Trump administration, very disappointingly kept going with it.
The Trump Federal Trade Commission is not nearly as good
as you would expect from a Republican administration. In any case,
what the original lawsuit did was they defined the industry
where they were trying to say that Facebook basically got

(43:11):
a monopoly in this industry. And they defined the industry
as what they called personal social networking, and they defined
it in such a way that it excluded lots of
various companies that you would call social networking companies so
that they could then claim that Meta was taking a
monopoly position in this industry that isn't really a thing.

(43:34):
They just kind of defined it that way so they
could make the claim, and they left out pinterest in
YouTube and read it and LinkedIn and all this other stuff. Anyway,
long story short, judge ruled yesterday the government loses. They
did not violate it. Meta did not violate antitrust laws.
The government has spent millions of dollars bringing this case.

(43:56):
It was a stupid case to begin with. And I
have no love for Meta or for Facebook or Mark
Zuckerberger any of that. But what I really don't like
is dumb bureaucrats wasting taxpayers money and dumb bureaucrats with
no imagination. This is the thing, this is the thing.
They were claiming that there was a monopoly here, and
that somehow, after Meta bought Instagram and bought WhatsApp, that

(44:21):
suddenly the world of social networks wouldn't be competitive anymore?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Just a couple of years later, there's TikTok, you know,
all these things. And the judge said, look, the whole
world has changed since then, and it always was going
to change, and that I think is the key, and
I hope we don't have more and more stupid cases
like this. The answer to the question of how much
they are estimating the baseball to go for, and I'm

(44:50):
going to get the I'm gonna get the exact number here,
because they give a range one and eighty five thousand
to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and and the
ranges were all all over the place, and lots of
folks actually guess really really high numbers, like Gina. A
whole bunch of people set a million and a half,
so who knows, maybe it'll go higher. All right, speaking

(45:11):
of Gina, it's time for Gina to tell us what's
going on in the world, Dragon had said to me.
Producer Dragon said to me during the break, I wonder
if to baseball purists, the fact that somebody's signature other
than Joe DiMaggio is on the ball might actually bring
down the value of the ball. And I didn't think
that was right, but it's not an insane concept. And
so I went online and did a little research, and

(45:32):
what I'm finding is a baseball that's just signed by
Joe DiMaggio, and that's it that those seemed to go
for a few hundred dollars. Maybe baseball's where it was.
It's a particular ball, like it's the fortieth home run
in nineteen forty two or whenever, whenever he was playing,

(45:53):
And so they have that ball and it's written on
the ball what it is and what date it was,
and signed up by Joe DiMaggio. Those look like they're
online for somewhere between eight and fifteen thousand dollars again
for Joe Demangio balls.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
So this one signed by him and Marilyn Monroe.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Estimated in the neighborhood at two hundred grand is a
whole other is a whole other level. But I'll be
really interested in what's the whole other ball game?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah right, thank you.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I'll be really interested to see what it actually goes for,
especially with Gina thinking maybe two million.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Maybe there's going to be, you know, one of these things.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Sometimes at high dollar auctions, people buy stuff and never
disclose who the buyer is, in part because they don't
get robbed.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Like for example, Gina told.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
The story this morning about this Gustav Klempt painting that
went for two hundred and thirty six million dollars at auction.
I don't know, Gina did. Have you seen the name
of a buyer? I doubt will know the name of
the buyer, right, So I don't know. So what I'm
what I'm wondering with this baseball, Like, what if this
ball goes for like two million to an unnamed buyer

(47:04):
tomorrow and then you know, like the next day or two,
Gina comes in showing us the ball because.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
She thinks it's worth two million.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
So maybe if Gina could get it for a buck
and a half, for a million and a half considered
a bargain, bring us the ball and show it to us. Yeah, okay,
let me do a couple just very different things. Briefly,
I posted this video. Okay, So, so, folks who are
kind of new to the show. Each day that that
we have a show, or each day that I'm on
the air, I do a what I call a blog cast.

(47:36):
But it's just a note that goes on my website
at Rosskominsky dot com, which, by the way, just redirects
to my KOA page. But it's the easiest way to
get there. So if you go to Rosskominsky dot com,
it'll point you to my KOA page and you will
see a note called the blog cast, and it's a
list of articles and commentary by me, and and who's

(47:56):
going to be on the show, who are the guests,
what are we going to talk about?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I always put at least one video at the end.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Sometimes they're serious, most often their light and entertaining. And
I would sure appreciate it if you would take some
time every morning, some mornings to go to Rosskaminsky dot
com and check out that blogcast. I think it's a
great source of news and information for you, in addition
to listening to Gina of course on Colorado's Morning News
and then us during this show. But there's a lot

(48:24):
in there for you. And one of the videos I
have today is a very funny video. Well I don't
know if funny is the right word, but it's a
video you can't see the woman's face. You see a
sort of flat bowl and a woman's hands and an
airplane window. And it is a video of a woman

(48:46):
named Katiebrooks making pasta while on an airplane. And I
guess she's got a series of videos that she.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Calls pasta in the wild.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
And I'm quoting from axios to show people how easy
it is to make fresh pasta. She began by making
pasta wall camping and took it to new heights. I
get it when she made fresh fresh all right, Neil
Ketti Sardi on her American Airlines flight. But she didn't
cook the pasta. She just brought the She made the dough.

(49:15):
So she brought on the flight a bag of flour,
a little board that you use to make this stuff,
a dough scraper, and a little bowl to keep all
the ingredients together. After they took off, she asked for
a cup of water. She made the dough, cut it
into pieces, rolled them on this little special board. It
took about fifteen minutes. Then she had a glass of
wine to celebrate her work. She was wondering whether the

(49:38):
flight attendants would notice or get upset or anything, but
she said nobody. Nobody even noticed that that she was
making pasta. So I think that's an awesome story.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
So other very very different thing I want to mention
about a week ago, I went to a place before
it opened, and it's opened now called the Aurora Homeless
Navigation Campus, and it's a very very big place. It's
a former Crown Plaza hotel with a former convention center

(50:14):
attached to it. It's really big, and this is a
massive project to help homeless people in Colorado. At the
official ribbon cutting which was about two weeks ago, and
I wasn't at that, but at the official ribbon cutting,
not only were a bunch of Aurora politicians there, including
Mayor Mike Kaufman, but Governor Jared Polis was there. And
they're aiming to be able to help and house, at

(50:38):
different levels of support, about six hundred homeless people at
a time. And I will tell you when I was
there kind of getting a tour of this place, talking
with the folks who are running it.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
It's a group called a group called Advance Advanced Pathways.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
A group called Advanced Pathways is running it is to
me how deeply committed they are, how much these folks
care so deeply about helping folks. And I'm not going
to spend more time on it right now, but I
did post this on the blog and I want to
encourage you to just look it up, the Aurora Homeless
Navigation Campus.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
What a worthy thing to do.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
And the reason I mentioned it, there was a story
in the Denver is at yesterday, Aurora Homeless Navigation Campus
welcomes one hundred and seventy six people on its first day.
Talk about making a difference, So, you know, you know,
for folks who listen to my show for years before
we moved to this time slot, you know, but I
want to let others know who are just joining now

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that if you send us texts at five six six
nine zero, and let's this a kind of thing where
we get one hundred all at once, because we you
know what, but we read them all and we actually
respond to very very many of them.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
So if you want to text us at five sixty
six nine zero, if you have.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
A specific question for me, just start your text with Ross.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
If you've got a specific question.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
For Gina, start your question with Gina, which by the way,
begins with a J and not with a G. And
if you have a question for producer Dragon, you can
put Dragon or Boss or Viking or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
And if it's for all of us, just put rotten
R O T N.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Because we are uh, we're we're just accepting that now,
I think you are. Except yeah, yeah, yeah that was
the royal we im Yes, I'm still not entirely sure
about it. I mean, well, it's not bad for you. Yeah,
it's rotten. Plus genus, you're not rotten, although you're associated

(52:43):
with a little but you're not included in the.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That's true. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
With Gina, it could mean that I'm also associated with.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
The rotten, with the whole rottenness at all. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:56):
Plus aside from she's not the dumpster, but she's pictured
with the dumpster.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah yeah, so I'm a dumpster.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Now today, let's help those in need with Koa's holiday
food drive benefiting Food Bank of the Rockies. It's so
starting in less than an hour now, nine am, going
for twelve hours till nine pm at the King Soopers
at Colorado and Yale, which used to be the King Supers.
I shopped out all the time when I lived over
near there Colorado and Yale. So it's just a little

(53:24):
bit north of Hampden Colorado Boulevard and you can go
into the store. We've got lists there of things.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
That the Food Bank of the Rockies would love to.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Have you donate so they can help provide wonderful holiday
meals and a nice holiday experience for people who are
down on their luck. You can buy and donate turkeys
other kinds of food. You can also donate cash through
a QR code if you'd like to. This is presented
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those fine groups have been have been co sponsoring this

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with us for quite a few years now, and of
course KOA as well. So nine to noon today today
at King's Hoops at Colorado and Yale. So just one
quick response to a listener text from from earlier. We
were talking about the secret sauce for the Cane's chicken
and a listener sent in a text talking about blue

(54:18):
cheese being in the sauce. And for those new to
the show, it's sort of an ongoing bit, but also
because it's really true how much I hate blue cheese.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Now, the beginning of the text.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
This listener was doing voice to text and tried to
say ross but instead what.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Hit was and I'm just gonna spell it.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I'm not gonna say it, but what came what came
instead of R O S S was a R s now.
A R S is basically a British word, a British
version of a slightly bad word that is also a
synonym for donkey. Okay, and then But what's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Was really funny about this is that.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
The person sent in that text and said ross, I'm sorry,
spell check messed up again. A comment was not meant
to have an inappropriate word in it. And what's really
funny is when I read the text the first time
and it started with arse instead of ross. When I
read the text the first time and read about blue

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cheese being in the in the sauce, which is not true,
God willing, I thought that the listener was saying that
the inappropriate comment was the term blue cheese, because I
didn't even notice arse e because that's just how I'm
used to being talked to, I guess. But anyway, don't
you worry about it. As long as there's no blue cheese.

(55:40):
Were fine. I want to take just a couple of
minutes here and talk a little bit more about.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
The Epstein thing. This is enormous news. I'm not gonna
get too much.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Into the in and outs of what's the ins and
outs of what's being released. But what I still wonder about,
and I don't have a prediction about yet, is whether
this is going to be a thing that is going
to kind of fizzle out.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
And the politicians feel like they got their win. The
Democrats think they rolled Trump.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
In fact, Thomas Massey, the Republican who was the main
Republican pushing back on this, was asked why he thought
Donald Trump changed his mind and said, you go ahead
and go along with this thing. And Massey said, he
got tired of me winning, which is giving Trump a
little bit of his own medicine, right, because Trump is,
you know, he used to talk more than he does

(56:29):
now about how people are going to get tired of
so much winning, and so Massey kind of gave him
a bit of his own medicine there, which was interesting, right,
But that's the world of politics right now. So I
suspect that the reason this stuff didn't come out during
the Biden administration is there's probably very little there.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I could be wrong, but there's probably very little there.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
And then Pam Bondi and cash but tell who you
know wanted to put all this stuff out decided not to?
Is it because there was nothing except prejudicial stuff about
people that could drag people's names through the mud even
though they didn't do anything wrong. So we don't really
know or Is there a lot of bad stuff there?
I think it's unlikely, but stick with the hypothetical. Is
there a lot of bad stuff there that you know

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that that's the reason they're not putting this out, and
so it could just fade away?

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And I think that's the more likely thing.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Wouldn't bet my life on it, but I think that's
the more likely thing. Is it fades away kind of
sort us soon. But just to give you an example
of the kinds of landmines that could be in there,
I want to share with you a little bit of
audio from yesterday from Representative James Comer, who is chairman

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of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee that's really the
one that has been doing the deep dive into the
Epstein files and releasing documents as they go along, and
they wanted to just keep going that way rather than
have the Congress vote to release absolutely everything. But just
to give you a of the sort of landmine that
might be there, have a listen to.

Speaker 9 (58:03):
This, colleagues. Coordination with Epstein. Another email shows Democrat fundraisers
invited Epstein to an event or to meet privately with
the Keem Jeffries as part of their twenty thirteen effort
to win a majority, So Hakeem Jeffries campaign solicited money
from Jeffrey Epstein. That's what we found in the last

(58:25):
document match.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I'll just leave it there in the interest of time.
But I mean, how about that. Hakim Jeffries, if you're unaware,
is the is the ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives.
And if, as many people expect, Democrats take back the
House of Representatives in the twenty twenty six elections, Hakim
Jeffries will almost certainly be Speaker of the House. Now,

(58:47):
Hakim Jeffries and lots of these Democrats decided that they
were all about transparency and releasing the Epstein files. They
didn't care about it before, they didn't care about it.
During the Biden administration, they decided they cared about it
and wanted to get all the information out once they
realized that Donald Trump was against it and it was
just purely a political thing for many of them.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
There are few.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
There are a few who legitimately want to get information out,
and I do too.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I do too.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
There's a lot we need to know. I've said this
many times before, I'm to say it again. Epstein got
the most unbelievable sweetheart deal of all time. When he
was first arrested, he got basically a slap on the wrist.
He got a very light prison sentence, and even then
he was allowed out of prison during the day to
go work and stuff. It is a kind of thing
that if anybody else basically had gotten charged with that crime, convicted,

(59:43):
or pled guilty to that crime, he'd be in prison
for a long time.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
And something really really stinks there.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
And that what I just want to emphasize is an
action of government, and the public has a right to know.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
But did the public have a right to know that.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Larry Summer was emailing with Epstein to get advice on
how to cheat on his wife?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
It sure is a terrible thing that Larry Summers did.
Now his life is kind of destroyed, and you could
say he deserved it, But did we really have a
right and a need to know?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I think these things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Are harder questions a lot of stuff going on in
the world today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Luckily we got Gina to tell us all about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You know, Gina, I think you should probably handle this
because you know Danny and you know, I mean, I'm
very excited for this because I have a specific request for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Him that you know that you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Know about, but you invited Danny, So why didn't you
tell us who Janny is and what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Yeah, Danny Katz, you've heard him on Colorado's Morning News.
He's the executive director of COPERG, the Colorado Public's Interest
Research Group, and they released this report every year called
the Trouble in Toy Land, and it really focuses a
lot on some of the toys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
You need to look out for this year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Danny.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
I appreciate you coming in the studio this morning and
showing us off some of these toys that we have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
To be on the lookout for this year. Thank you, Yeah,
thank you. So normally when.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
We talk about toys and the issues that we see
with them, you always talk about choking hazards, and that's
obviously still a number one thing that people need to know,
but it feels like this year we're starting to see
a big turn in some of the other toys you
need to look out for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
This is our fortieth toy Safety report that we've released,
and over those forty years, we've identified a number of
hazards on the store shelves. It's important to remember the
vast majority of toys are safe, but there is still
some trouble in toy land, So we wanted to highlight
that we have some issues with being able to find
recalled toys still being sold, which is not legal, and

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there's also a rise in AI toys, and we do
want to make sure parents know what to look for
and know what the concerns are with those toys.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
What kind of regulations do toys generally go through before
coming into the US, because I assume a majority of
them are coming into the US.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Yeah, so we have lots of regulations and lots of
laws that have been passed over the years to ensure
that we don't have dangerous levels of certain toxics like
lead in some of these toys. We also have really
clear requirements around labeling to make sure parents know which
toys are appropriate for which ages, especially when it comes
to choking hazards. You know, small pieces, kids put everything

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in their mouth, and so it's really important to make
sure you're communicating to parents if you're going to buy
this toy, it's not for kids who are under the
age of three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
So we've seen a lot of advancements there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
You have the uh sorry, Reuss, you have the empty
toilet paper roll here for listeners. It's not a toy,
but it's a great demonstration for people to kind of
visualize what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Yeah, I mean a lot of people have multiple kids
out there, and if you have kids who are older
and kids who are younger, I mean, a lot of
these toys are perfectly safe. You know, a little cow
piece or legos are perfectly safe for most kids. But
for kids who are under the age of three, they're
going to put everything in their mouth. And so if
you're a parent, one really easy hack for you at
home is just to take an empty toilet paper tube.

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This is roughly the size of a kid's throat, and
if a toy goes through that empty toilet paper tube,
then it's a choking hazard for kids under the age
of three, and just keep those parts and away, especially
when you're having those big gatherings and you have kids
of different ages.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I know there was a thing a couple of years back,
and I'm wondering if it's still a thing about some
of these put it in air quotes toys that were
like a lot of small but very strong magnets that
posed an additional risk, like they get in and then
they can, you know, adhere to each other around something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Is that? Are those kind of gone away?

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
I mean they are kind of cool for an adult, right,
they're kind of cool things.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
But what's the story with those as toys.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Yeah, there's been some regulations passed to try to make
sure those toys are no longer being those items are
no longer being marketed to kids as toys right to
make it clearer to parents. Some of the really really
powerful magnets have actually been banned just because they're they're
dangerous enough that they just don't warrant being out in
the marketplace right now, especially if they're small enough and

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you can get it again through something like this toilet
paper role.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
There were lots of kids who were going to the
emergency room because of that. Okay, so you have this
toy here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
I don't know if it's me Go three, Mico m
I Ko three, the ridiculously smart, seriously fun kids robots.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Tell us a little bit about this one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Yeah, So when it comes to AI toys right now,
it's really the wild West, and as we know, the
wild West can be unexpected and sometimes dangerous and so
these AI toys, we were able you know, we bought
a couple of them, and we did a bunch of tests.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
We just asked them lots of questions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
And so remember these are toys that are connected to
Wi Fi and they're connected to the world. They're using
these these chatbot features, these AI features, and so we
were able to ask lots of questions and get answers
that I don't think many parents would want their kids
to know. So some of the things we were able
to learn. We were able to ask these toys, where
do I find matches in a house?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
And how do I light a match?

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
One of the toys attempted to explain what the Bible
was by describing it as part history and part imagination.
There was one of these AI toys that actually tried
to answer what kink Is is, and that toy has
since been taken off the market after our report was released.
So again it's it is the kind of thing where
you know your kid is part of a big experiment

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right now when it comes to these AI toys, and
if you're not comfortable having your kid be part of
that experiment, you should steer clear of it for right now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
All right, I've got two questions for you, one perhaps
more serious than the other, and you can decide which
one is the more serious question. So, I have a
nephew I don't like very much, and I was thinking
of getting him a toy that is made out of
lead or mercury and lies to him a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Where could I buy something like that?

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Yeah, the lead in the mercury is not going to
be sold anywhere, but in terms of you know, depending
on what answers you find in the AI world, then
you know that might be the place for you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
And then the other question, and again you can decide
which one is more serious. Is there is I'm president
of bad Analogy Clubs, so let me give you one.
Yesterday we were talking with a guy from the DEA
and I said, and he said, don't never take a
pill that you didn't get the pharmacy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
So is there a kind of thing like that in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
The world of toys where you should be careful what
your source of toys is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
One hundred percent to be a savvy consumer, you gotta
think about these things when you're shopping for toys. You know, generally,
when you're in a toy store, you have a sense
of who you're buying this from. But when you're online,
you know there's a lot of companies out there. If
it's not one you recognize, if you click on the
information and it takes you to a website that doesn't
seem to have any you know, real details, or if

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the reviews are really bad, those are all red flags.
So those are definitely things as a consumer you can
do to make sure you're savvy and not getting fooled
into buying a counterfeit toy which may be subhazard or
just a toy that isn't right for your kid.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Danny, where can listeners go if they're looking for these
toys that you guys have on your report saying don't
buy these, or any other information if.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
They have questions on it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Yeah, our website COOPRG dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
That's coperg dot org.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Danny Katz, executive director of COPURG, the Colorado Public Interest
Research Group. I love when you bring in these toys,
not because we want to see these under the tree,
but at least let listeners get know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
And I took some videos too.

Speaker 5 (01:07:06):
We'll get them posted on our Instagram so they can
actually see them and what they look like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
And be aware of appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Thank you keep texting us at five six six nine zero,
and we will respond to very very many of your texts.
And there's a couple of nasty texts. It's okay, you
can send a nasty text. I won't read it. I
won't read it on the air, probably, But in any case,
I don't know what he's talking about with that one.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
A few people have asked me about a particular thing. Yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
One of the members of the House of Representatives will
a delegate from the Virgin Islands. Her name is Stacey
Plasquet P l A s K E t T. It's
come out through some of this Epstein stuff that she
was exchanging text messages with Jeffrey Epstein in twenty nineteen.

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After all, you know this stuff about is known in
twenty nineteen during a congressional hearing where he was advising
her on how to question somebody. And then I haven't
read all the details, but I guess her questions went
very much along the lines of whatever Epstein was suggesting
to her. And this doesn't seem very good, does it.

(01:08:20):
And of course the Democrats are the ones who have
been well. I shouldn't put it that way. It's sort
of a bipartisan thing at some point, you know, wanting
all this information out. So the information comes out that
she's texting with Jeffrey Epstein during a congressional hearing and
apparently using some of what he says in the hearing. Now,
a bunch of people wanted to censure her for that

(01:08:43):
and to remove her from the House Intelligence Committee as
essentially being a security risk. And they brought this thing
up for a vote, and it failed, and a few
Republicans voted against it. And the backstory here seems pretty
odd and maybe a little bit corrupt. So there is
a congressman from Florida named Corey Mills. I don't know

(01:09:07):
much about this guy, but apparently Corey Mills has some
controversy about him. He had been accused of some kind
of assault, but that apparently has been withdrawn since then,
and then there's some ongoing lawsuit about a previous relationship. Anyway,
there's a lot of stories around this guy, and I

(01:09:30):
don't know what's legit and what's not legit. But the
Democrats have this censure measure teed up to run against
this guy, Corey Mills and to remove him from the
House Armed Services Committee. Now, again, I don't know anything
about what Corey Mills really has done, really hasn't done.
I just know there's a ton of accusations and controversy

(01:09:53):
around him, and maybe it's wrong. Maybe it's wrong, and
if so, you know, he should be able to be
able to clear that up. Basically, what happened was the
Democrats said, if you go ahead and move against Plasket
for something that I think is really bad, I mean
taking text messages from Epstein during a House hearing and

(01:10:16):
then asking questions that he suggested, which seems like she
she did, like should a person like that actually be
on the on the Intelligence Committee?

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
But the Democrats said, well, if you go after her,
then we're going to go after Corey Mills. And so
a few Republicans voted with almost all the Democrats and
decided to save Plaskett. And you know, afterwards, Lauren Bobert

(01:10:50):
and a few others were were pretty upset and they
should have been right this particular inquiry, well after the
vote went down far to Representative Anna Paulina Luna, and
I'm going to quote from CNN here, attempted to raise
a question on the floor asking the Speaker of the
House to explain why leadership on both sides, Democrat and

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Republican are cutting backroom deals to cover up public corruption
in the House of Representatives by both parties, and her
inquiry was rejected for not following proper protocols, according to CNN,
but it received support from Lauren Bolbert, who exclaimed get
it girl from the House floor. Bobert could be heard
in the chamber moments earlier lasting out at members of

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her own party over the failure of the plasket censure push.
I think Lauren's right. I think all these Republicans who
are complaining about it are right. Tennessee Representative Tim Burchet,
he's on TV a lot of kind of funny guy,
took to social media to denounce an.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Alleged backroom deal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Although these folks haven't actually had proof of a backroom deal.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
But it is the kind of thing that I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Think causes people to just say, what is going on here?
How can this woman who did something so obviously wrong
as texting with Jeffrey Epstein in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
It's not like nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
In twenty nineteen, texting with him taking advice from him,
and remember his island in the Virgin Islands, so they
probably knew each other. And I think she I think
he contributed to her campaign. And the whole thing just
absolutely stinks. And yet Republicans won't do it because they
don't want to sense your resolution to come up against

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one of their own, even if just based on what
seems to be out there in the news, even if
he deserves it too. And I think that this is
the kind of stuff that turned people away from trusting government.
It's that corruption stuff, and then even the Epstein.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Stuff more broadly in two different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Of course, the big picture way is this question of
does the whole Epstein saga represent government protecting some really
rich dude and his really rich friends while they do
disgusting things to underage girls, And maybe I would like
to know that, I would like to know. And the
other thing though, with Epstein is we've taken months now

(01:13:15):
of this being one of the top stories in the
news at a time when people can't afford beef, at
a time when people are struggling to afford rent, at
a time when people are very concerned about the economy,
at a time when employment numbers aren't very good, and
at a time when people voted for Donald Trump specifically

(01:13:36):
because he campaigned on focusing on issues that Americans care about.
And now I think voters of all political persuasions are
seeing what Congress is spending its time on and thinking, wait,
you're supposed to be a representative. Can you please get
out there and represent me when you weren't a vegetarian?

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
To jewey turkey? No, tofurkey? I do? We do celebrate
with a toeferkey? Yes? What you say? A toeferkey? So
what does it look like?

Speaker 5 (01:14:08):
So it's like a They literally call it a vegan
holiday roast, okay, and it's more like a ham.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I think it tastes more like a ham.

Speaker 5 (01:14:16):
And sometimes they actually have like stuffing or cranberry inside
of it, and you can put like a glaze on
top of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
And your husband tolerates this, uh huh, he likes you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
Well, he also cooks, so not only does he tolerate it,
but he cooks it for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
So he's a winner. Is he going to make any meat?

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
No, well, he sometimes does, but probably not. The the
roast is pretty big, so when it's just the two
of us enough, I was asking if it was good enough. Yes,
it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Enough, okay, and are you making it Cranberry?

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
I'm sorry green bean.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
That everything out of cans. Unlike dragon, everything's out of cans.
But yes, fresh is the way to go. And what
did we learn yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
Cranberry?

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Cranberry? What relish? Cranberry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Whole bunch of people texted in about Cranberry relish.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
She said, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Put it on turkey, put it on everything, bathe in it,
every absolutely everything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I got some really funny little sayings from a listener,
and I just want to share one or two with you,
and then I want to do real or fake with
with Gina in a second. But there were just a
couple of things here that I thought were so funny,
and it's sort of in a dad joke way. Right.
Last night, my wife asked me if I had seen
the dog bowl, and I said I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
He could.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Took a second, but then it took a second.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Then then she laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
It's perfectly okay to talk to yourself, and it's perfectly
okay to answer yourself, but it's totally sad that you
have to repeat what you said because you weren't listening.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Hold on, there was one other one that I wanted
to share with you. Oh, this book on marriage that
I read said treat your wife like you treated her
on her first date. So after dinner tonight, I'm dropped
her off at her parents' house.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I like it. That's a good one. Where was your
first date with your now husband?

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
Also, my now husband just texted me and said, no,
he's cooking a hamsteak.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
He really want to stress that he's eating meat on Thanksgiving.
Well done, there you go, well done. I almost said
his name on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
You do it from time to time accidentally, but I want, yeah,
very well done.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
And I think it would have been like.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
The go to sports bar in college, like down the
street in or near Grand Rapids.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yes, yep, in or near.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
Uh near because technically Grand Valley's campus is just outside
of Grand Rapids, in the town of Allendale, where there's
probably more cows and turkeys than people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Are you a big sports watching girl now? Not back then?
Not back then? No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
No, but they just had good wings or that's where
he wanted was our go to place? Okay, are you ready, sure?
And if Gina gets it right today, what does she
win to Turkey?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Turkey? Here we go, all right? So one of these
headlines is fake?

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Okay, New Dancing comp Petition to be hosted by Ai
fred Astaire Japanese bear apocalypse update, Bear attack shelters now
for Saletra damis predicted a new pandemic for the end
of the year. And Chinese woman ate fifty rats during
wilderness Survival challenge and lost thirty pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Oh my god, this one's really hard. I feel like
all of them are faith Those are.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
All ridiculous headlines, aren't they. Which one do you think
is fake? Oh, Dancing competition, Ai fred Astaire Japanese bear apocalypse,
So bear shelters for sale? No, stra damis predicting a
new pandemic. Chinese woman ate fifty rats and lost thirty pounds.

Speaker 5 (01:17:39):
I'm gonna go with the most realistic one as fake.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
And I'm going to guess the pandemic one is fake
and the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Actual fake headline Gina is New Dancing Competitions show to be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Hosted by Ai fred Astaire. You are fake. You are
fake news. That's all right, You'll get better at this
as we play more. It is hard, really, it is hard.
All of these today could have been, could have been
rats one. What I need to know more about that,
well go look it up. That's particularly difficult for you
as a vegetarian. I'll pass.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Folks, have a wonderful rest to here. Wednesday Rotten with
Gina and producer Dragon. We'll be back with you tomorrow.
Michael Brown up next.