12-31-24 - Jimmy Sengenberger Filling In For Ross

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Happy New Year, one and all. Jimmy Sangenberger
in one more time to round out the year in
for ros Kaminski on KOA. So great to be with
you this morning with a real fun show coming in studio.

(00:24):
He is the Ambassador of Soul. He's a father of seven,
he's a military veteran. He's got an amazing voice, hence
why he got very far in season six of The Voice.
And he's an all around great guy and a pastor.

(00:44):
And he's going to be joining me later on in
the program live in studio. His name is Biff Gore.
He is indeed the Ambassador of Soul. And we will
have some conversation, we will jam some music. I've got
my harmonicas, and we will have a good time sort of.
I know it's hours away until you technically ring in
the new year, but we're going to ring in the

(01:08):
new year right here on the show this morning. We'll
also be joined bottom of this hour by another good
friend of mine. He's a music industry veteran who tour
managed Aerosmith for five years, tour manage run DMC and
Public Enemy. He was a VP of Live Nation for
several years. He is a promote. He's done it all

(01:30):
in the music business outside of performing himself, and he
will be joining me.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Jeff Crump is his name. At the bottom of this hour.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
To look over and remember the musicians and other musical
luminaries that we lost in twenty twenty four, and the
list might surprise you. You might not have realized it.
You might have forgotten who was lost earlier this year.
Some famous, very well known extraorda musicians, from Dicky Betts

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of the Allman Brothers to Phil Lesh of The Grateful
Dead and Toby Keith, and the list goes on. We'll
talk with Jeff as only Jeff can offer perspective as
we get things rolling into the new year and out
of twenty twenty four. Can you believe how fast time
has gone and that we are here on the thirty

(02:27):
first of December, Because I certainly can't. This has been
a raucous year. It began with anticipation for Republicans possibly.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Having a brand new nominee.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
For president, somebody not named Donald Trump. But Trump said Nope,
I'm gonna run and I'm going to get the nomination,
and get the nomination he did. The year started out wondering,
is Biden for sure going to keep running this race?
And he was adamant about it. Kamala Harris was out

(03:00):
him in about it. The media was all over it.
Yes he is, He's okay, He's doing just fine. Nothing
to be concerned about with his health or his cognitive decline.
Several months later, what happens. Joe Biden drops out, Kamala
Harris becomes the nominee, and Tim Walls or vice president,

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and in an abbreviated race, they lose the Trump. And
not only did they lose to Trump, he actually won
the popular vote for the first time for a Republican
in this century since Bush's re election George W. Bush
in two thousand and four, two decades ago. And now

(03:43):
we look ahead into twenty twenty five with the new presidency.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, although
he's got a little bit more experience under his belt,
so he's already hitting the ground running with his appointments
and more. Also, as we look back at twenty twenty four,

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of course, can think about the various people that we lost.
Will talk about some of the musicians. Just at the
end of the year, we lost former President Jimmy Carter
at the age of one hundred. You've always gotten the
various natural disasters that happened, and then you have the
hopeful positive things that take place as well.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
First question I'd love to.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Pose to you on the KOA Common Spirit Health text
line at five six six nine zero.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
When you look back at this year, what do you.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Look back on most positively as far as any sort
of events that happened and negatively? Is there anything that
happened this year where you're like, oh my gosh, I'm
pulling my hair out. Maybe you're really unhappy that Donald
Trump is going to be president again, just as one example,
maybe you are really happy for some news events that

(05:05):
you know, maybe there's something out there that people don't
remember happened, and you think, you know what, this is good.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I want to share this.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Five six six nine zero is the number, and we
will go down that memory lane and really talk about
a lot of these things throughout the course of the
program today. Meanwhile, there is a civil war brewing when
it comes to Congress and the Republican Party and MAGO World.

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And yet this civil war may have been resolved, we
will see.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
But it is the case that Speaker of the House.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Mike Johnson just yesterday managed to secure the endorsement of
President elect Donald Trump for keeping him in the position
of speaker. Now, Republicans have a lot of dissension within
their ranks because a slew of Republicans are frustrated with

(06:06):
Johnson and what happened over this continuing resolution spending deal
from a couple of weeks ago, and some other issues
where they're like, ah, you know what, he's just not
the guy for the job.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
But to Trump, he is Speaker.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Mike Johnson is a good, hard working religious man, Trump wrote,
he will do the right thing and we will continue
to win. Mike is my complete and total endorsement, maga
with three exclamation points. Now, will that endorsement be enough

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to stem the rising tide of Republicans who were opposed
to Johnson?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
The one exception so far is Thomas Massey.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
All they need is one Republican defector to add to
the list, to add to this guy Thomas Massey, who's
always sort of a rebel browser pushing back and the Republicans,
will he do that or will somebody else do that
and join him in dissenting. Johnson now has a strong

(07:12):
relationship with Trump, so it could bear out that this
is settled and that there will be enough support to say, look,
you need to get Johnson in there so we can
get the certification of election results done and move forward
without giving the perception that the Republicans are not together
when they now have the presidency, the Senate, and the House. Honestly,

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if there is anybody else to break ranks in the
Republican Party, I think it's foolish, whether you're a Republican
or a Democrat, if you look at this sort of objectively,
any party that can't get it together with their leader
right in the beginning, especially when they have the presidency
and both houses of Congress, is a party that is

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showing itself incapable of leading in that moment, the perception,
and oftentimes perception will seem like reality. Phil Wegman is
reporter for Real Clear Politics, and he said this a
couple days ago about Johnson's relationship with Trump.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You mentioned a second ago this is probably the most
difficult job in all of Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
My question is does that job get easier.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
When Republicans have a Republican majority leader to deal with
in the Senate what they've seen from Johnson is someone
who has a solid relationship with Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
He endorsed him in November.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
He seemed to make the Speaker sweat a little.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Bit with that interview with Brooks Singman at Box.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
But thus far, you know, Johnson was there with the
President elect on election Day, and the President he hasn't
said one way or the other if you like someone
new in this position.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
And now we know, because this was commented before Trump's endorsement,
that he does not want to see somebody new in
this position. He wants Speaker of the House Mike Johnson
to retain the speakers. I think that will happen on
January third, when they get together and do their vote.
I think he'll be able to corral enough Republican support,

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but you never know. In this day and age, Republicans
are not as unified as one might like.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
If you are a Republican.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
To see in Congress, which means it's an open question
what happens next, more than the American people might like
when they would prefer Congress to get to work on
day one. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Ross Kaminsky.
We are just getting started on this New Year's Eve

(09:36):
special edition of the program. So keep it right here
as we rock and roll ahead on KOA Trucking along
here Jimmy sanging Berger in for Ross Kaminski round and
out the year of twenty twenty four. Of course, this
is the classic classic group The Grateful Dead, Phil Lesh

(10:00):
That's the way this year, founder, bass, guitarist, writer. It's
often known as the heart of the Grateful Dead, and
we will talk a little bit about him with some
fun stories and others who we lost in twenty twenty
four coming up in the next segment with music industry
veteran Jeff crump Here on the program. Well Look, yesterday

(10:24):
we had an interview with former mccauliffe International Middle School
principal Kurt Dennis, who joined me in studio on the program,
and it was a powerful interview. We have the podcast

(10:44):
up on Ross's podcast for the whole show as well
as for that interview. I encourage you, if school safety
in Denver is an issue of concern to you or
something you care about, go check it out out because
it is. Let me tell you, it is a very

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important story to be following and keeping in mind at
this time and I mean it has been for a
few years now when it comes to school safety issues
in Denver Public Schools. At Roskiminski dot com your place
for the podcast. So I have my column in the

(11:25):
Denver Gazette today, Denver Schools coddal criminals and danger Kids.
Of course, I publish every Tuesday and Friday, and I
break down a lot of this. I talked with Kurt
Dennis on Sunday night as sort of a preliminary for
yesterday's interview. There's a lot of detail you want to
figure out. Okay, how do you arrange it? And for

(11:46):
my column? And my conclusion from speaking with him is
that when Denver Public Schools fired him for or following
wing his decision to go to nine News and say, look,
we have a kid who's gotten a number of charges,
felony charges, including attempted murder in our school.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And I kept asking.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
The district for an alternative pathway do something else for
this student, and they refused. Time after time after time,
the district refused, and so he blew the whistle, went
to nine News and said, hey, I want to talk
about this because the shooter of two deans in March
of twenty twenty three seventeen year old student. He had

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a rap sheet, and he had been expelled from Cherry
Creek Schools, and he had been on probation for stuff
related to weapons and ended up during the course of
one of these in school pat downs that were acquired
by the district of certain students. The deans were shot

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because he did have a gun on him, and thank
god they both survived, although tragically the student took his
own life later that day. But Dennis was like, I
don't want this to happen again and under my watch,
So I'm gonna blow the whistle on this because DPS

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is requiring us to do a pat down here and
to keep this student in the classroom, putting other students
at risk. As he told me, parents and taxpayers have
a right to know that the school district had a
policy like this where a student could conceivably walk into
a liquor store, shoot someone, walk out, and be back
in class a week later. He told me for this column.

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Why is it okay for a student to do those
things and be welcomed back to the classroom a week later.
There is no reason that DP couldn't or shouldn't have
figured out something else for this student online or another
location where it is for students that have more troubled

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criminal issues. They have those kinds of environments. That's something
that has been used for forever district after district, So
why not figure out an alternative pathway? They could do that.
They should have done that. And there are other cases
of retaliation or allegations of retaliation. This seems like retaliation.

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They fired him after he blew the whistle. Now there
are a handful of cases against Denver Public Schools, including
a lawsuit that Kurt Dennis is brought against DPS that
a judge, a federal judge, is just allowed to go forward. Well,
these different cases should bring some long awaited accountability, even

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if it's a tax payer expense.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
They must drive meaningful chain just too.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Though, as I write in the Denver Gazette, DPS's actions
have fueled public perception that Kurt Dennis was scapegoaded for
the district's failures. In this case, perception is as good
as reality. Check out the podcast from yesterday's show at
Roskiminski dot com, and you can read my op ed

(15:23):
column in the Denver Gazette for today Denver Schools Catto,
criminals and danger kids.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
We're going to take a break. On the other side,
Let's look back at.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Some of the music luminaries that we lost in twenty
twenty four with great guests Jeff Crump, As we continue,
Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminsky on KOA, I Love
It and Memory of Elizabeth Read classic classic Allman Brothers tune.
As we continued, Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kiminski on KOA,

(15:53):
Happy New Year, and my thanks to Shannon Scott, producer
extraordinaire behind the glass plugging in some bumper request once again.
And I specifically wanted in Memory of Elizabeth read for
a few different reasons. One because it was written by
one of the musicians that we will be talking about

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who passed away in twenty twenty four, who we lost
from the music world.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
And because it's called in Memory of Elizabeth Reid.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So as we're talking about musicians we've lost, it seems
apropos to have a tune that is in memory of
someone as we remember others. Jeff Crump is a music
industry veteran. For five years he tour managed Aerosmith. He's tour,
managed run DMC and Public Enemy for over a decade.

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He was one of the right hand guys to Promoter
Extraordinaire in Denver, Barry Fay, and.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
He was a VP at Live Nation for five years.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
He helped run Denver's venues like Red Rocks and There's
the guy knows his stuff and has worked with so
many musicians. Jeff Crump joins me now. Jeff, welcome back
to Koa and Happy New Year.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Thanks Jimmy, Happy New Year to you as well.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Great to have you as we go through this list,
and I want to jump right into it so we
can make sure to get through as much as we can.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
And let's start.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Since I'm such a big Almond Brothers fan, I maintained,
and this is probably the most controversial thing I've ever
said in my years of radio, that the Almond Brothers
are the best band in history. And I will die
on that hill and I will fight anyone over that,
but in seriousness, and although it is a serious claim.
Dicky Batts was one of the founding members of the

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Almond Brothers band. He was born in nineteen forty three
and passed away on April eighteenth, twenty twenty four and
that song in Memory of Elizabeth Reid was one written
by Dickie.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Jeff, Yeah, go.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Ahead, absolutely. He he really took over control and direction
of the band once Dwayne Almond died. Dickie stepped up
and it was really his band. Greg hadn't really emerged
to the power he later became at that point.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And so when you look back at Dickey bats and
the influence and impact, what really jumps out at you
from him?

Speaker 4 (18:24):
He's a little short guy. Oh I guess that's not
what you were talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Not quite.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh okay, well, he just the Almond Brothers really pioneered
the whole southern rock genre of music. I mean they
were based out of muscle shoals and the long drawn
out kind of country jam band was you know, Leonard

(18:52):
Skinner to Almond Brothers. There were numerous bands like that,
but they were really kind of the forefront of that
whole type of music.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Now, Dicky Betts was with the band until into the
nineties when he was kicked out of the band, wasn't.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
He Yeah, Greg kind of insisted that I think part
was okay, but heavy drinking and hard drugs just wasn't
allowed on the tour, and Dicky kind of party too
much and it wore on some of the other people
in the band, and then he was ceremoniously removed, which

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had to be difficult because Greg and Dicky were very
close personal friends.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, I mean you go back and you see and
when was it nineteen ninety five that the Almond Brothers
band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
And Greg Almond was deep into the alcoholism and you
could see it. He was drunk as he was there
at the induction, and so that helped, I think to

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really give this sense for Greg. Look, we got to
move past the alcohol and I got to get sober
and straight, and I expect the band members to be
as well.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Pretty much sums it up. I mean, by this point
they'd lost both Dwayne and they'd lost their bass players
so to motorcycle accidents. So death was always kind of
hanging around the Almond Brothers. And Greg was smart enough
that we've got to mature if we're going to continue
to be who we are.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Now, let's talk a little bit happier about Dicky Pets
than that. He is somebody who had helped a number
of musicians get their start. He was a real light
in music and somebody who it's it's interesting you tell
this story about it in memory of Elizabeth Reid is
one song. Then after he left the band, the Alman

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Brothers just wouldn't play anymore correct.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
They didn't want Dicky to get the songwriting royalties.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Now you yeah, and you you've interacted with Dicky back
in the day quite a bit. You did a lot
with the arm Brothers, especially post Dickie bats being a
member when you were with Live Nation. What can you
tell us about Dicky from the personal side.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
He was real outgoing, real friendly, big Southern drawl, but
always had a huge smile on his face. An amazing
guitar player. I mean, this is one of those bands
that always had unbelievable guitar players up until the end.
I mean you you know Warren Haynes, obviously I've interviewed him,
and then.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Derek drux Rock.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Was the other guitar player, neither one of those who
were original founding members, but both certainly filled in admirably
when they replaced Dicky and Dwayne respectively.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, Jeff Crump, our guest, I want to talk for
a moment about somebody else who was a member of
the Armen Brothers band, a little known in that respect.
His name was Johnny Neal. He passed away on a
sixth of this year. Born in Wilmington, Delaware. By the way,
isn't that you know the home of President not where
he was born? Put President Joe Biden where he lives.

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When we look at at a guy like Johnny Neil,
I mean this is interesting. He's a songwriter, pretty prolific.
His songs have been played by the Almond Brothers, Greg Allman,
Dicky Betts and others.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And he was with the Almend Brothers band for a while, right.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I don't think he ever recorded with him, but he
did tour with him. He was discovered quotes by Dickie,
and Dicky turned Greg onto him and he was invited
to tour, and he became real closer to a member
of the touring band, not the recording band.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Yes, that is an important distinction, because they would do that,
you know, let's get out and tour. We've got our
band recording in studio would always be a little different.
Rest in piece. Both Dicky Betts and Johnny Neil. Let's
turn the country one of the the absolute legends. Toby
Keith passed away in twenty twenty four as well, and

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he died in February of stomach cancer.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, he was pretty open about that. He'd had it
for a couple of years. And you still see commercials
for Tunnels to Tower and Wounded Warrior featuring him.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
You know, the genre of country music, especially here at
West Like, it is extraordinarily popular. People absolutely love it,
and Toby Keith is one of those guys that just
is I think universally loved and appreciated by country fans
across the board and had a tremendous musical influence in
that genre.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oh. I think he was admired by not just country
fans but music fans. Yes, in general, he was just
he was a re likable guy.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did you ever meet Toby Keith.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I didn't meet him. I didn't really work with him,
but I didn't meet him one time. But that's just.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Pyo, sure, sure, fair enough, Jeff Crump joining us. I
have to turn back to blues for a moment. John
Mayall died this year and he was the founder of
the Blues Breakers, which had so many and I'll let
you name some of them other than Eric Clapton is
is probably the most renowned, but there are well, there

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are a bunch of very renowned ones that guitarists in
particular that were basically discovered by or helped get their
launch because of John Mayoll.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well Clapton and Jack Bruce were both in the Blues
Brothers together, Blues Brothers, I always do that, Blues Breakers together,
and they split off to start Cream. Yes, others that
were in the band at one point or another mc
taylor who played guitar in the Rolling Stones. And then

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there were three guys guy named Peter Green, Mick Fleetwood
and John McPhee broke off to start Fleetwood Mac. So
there is a family tree that very few bands can
claim that have worked with John Mayle. And he was
really a pioneer. I mean they really didn't do top

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forty singles and that it wasn't his thing. They didn't
really intricate well Bluoze, Yes, he was one of the founders.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
And Booze among those inducted into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame just so happened to have been inducted
this year in the Musical Influence category. He passed away
in July of twenty twenty four. John Mayol really in
the blues world. There are a lot of musicians I
could list who got their starred Cocoa Montoya and so

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many others because of John Mayoll.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Let's talk about somebody else.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That you knew who was extremely influential in his own right.
Another jam band, the Allman Brothers being a jam band,
same with the Great Old Dead. We lost Phil Lesh
on October twenty fifth.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well, we toured with Phil when I was with Live Nation.
One of the things that I did was oversee the
marketing operations and touring of a division called Live Nation,
and we would read the shows live, multi track them,
mix them down to two track, master him, and burn
them to CD within ten minutes after the show was over,

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so you could leave the show with a CD copy
in studio condition of the show you just saw and hurt.
All Them Brothers was the same way. So those two
on the list we're going to talk about. Both of
those were instant live clients. Phil was the heart of

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the Grateful Dead. He played a six string base, which
is kind of unusual. He was classically trained and violin
and you played a little bumper music earlier of truck
and he wrote the songs that became Grateful that didn't
have a lot of hits. They were a jam band

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like the Allman Brothers. They'd get up and play and
they didn't know what they were going to play until
they did it. A funny story, I mean you and
I've talked about this is Warren Haynes and Phil Lesh
were touring together and Bob Dylan was on the show
and Warren wanted to invite Bob to come up and play,

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and he kept well, I'll think about it, and getting
near the end of the tour and he kept going
to phillish it with. As Bob answered the question, he goes, no,
not really, and he said, well, I think the problem
is he thinks we're asking him to jam and he doesn't.
It's not really his style of music, and I don't
really wants to do that. So he went He went
back to him and said, well, look you don't have

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to Bobby, you don't have to play, you know, don't
have to jam and play little set with this. You
just play one song. He goes, well, how long would
that take? Twenty minutes?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
And that was Phil who had.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
That last conversation with him, right, Yes, yeah, that's hilarious
and it's so true because look at the Alba Brothers
is the same like you look at Whipping Post. It's
literally nineteen minutes plus every time they would play that
song for the Alburn Brothers, Grateful Dead, song after song
after song, where you'd be looking at fifteen twenty minutes,
So you know you could understand, Yeah, yeah, you could

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understand where Bob Dyland was coming from. Again, Jeff Crump,
music industry veteran, our guest, We have to go to
someone who I should have mentioned earlier. He was not
a known for performing himself, although he was a musician,
but he's most renowned as a record producer. One of

(28:52):
the most influential and celebrated Quincy Jones, and he died in.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Early November that long ago. He had a seventy year career,
I mean he died in his nineties, and he was
nominated for eighty Grammys and he won twenty eight times
and a seven year career. That's being nominated on an
average over one Grammy a year. Just unbelievably prolific. And

(29:21):
he probably best known for producing Michael Jackson's Big hits,
but yeah, probably an icon in the music business.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, it's so remarkable when you think, okay, we often
will toout. Yeah, usually it's musicians. Look at the big
stars that we lost. When Quincy Jones passed away, that
was huge enough to get attention, unlike most people who
were behind the scenes in when it comes to making records.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, I think he's probably the most famous producer ever
and I can't think it passes him. George Martin might
be right up there that produced all the Beatles stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Jeff Grumpy our guest again, music industry veteran. As we
look back at the musicians we lost in twenty twenty four,
let's fly through a handful of others in our remaining
time with you. Chris Christofferson, talk to me about Chris Well.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Chris was kind of an interesting character. He was a
Rhodes scholar. I don't think there's anybody else on this
list that was a Rhodes scholar, which is you get
a full right scholarship to go to Oxford. He was
also an Army ranger and they wanted him to come
back and he said, no, I want to go to

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Hollywood and act and play music. Well, He's one of
the founders, along with Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings of
the whole outlaw country genre of music. They were a
bad voice. They didn't play by the country rules at
the time and actually, hang in my here's the first
country record to go gold and sell a million good platinum,

(31:05):
sell a million copies was wanted The Outlaws with Christofferson,
Willie Nelson, William Jennings, and Tom Paul Glazier.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
So he and he was a very accomplished actor. One
Academy Awards. I mean, he just was so talented to do,
you know whatever, but just kind of legendary. Did you September?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Did you spend much time with Chris Christofferson.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Some, not a lot. I didn't do a lot of
didn't tour as much as I'd spend a lot of
time with William Whalen. Sometimes he'd show up and play,
but he didn't tour like Willie Nelson. Still touring at
ninety years old.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing. Tito Jackson of the Jackson Five,
the guitarist of the legendary band.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
There are eleven brothers and sisters in the Jackson family,
and he died and Michael died. Those are only two
that have passed at this point. He was the league
guitar player of course, founder of Jackson five, and really
helped guide his little brother along. I mean, Michael, they'd
been they did ABC and some of the early stuff.
I think Michael was five or six years old.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah. Well, you know that's.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
When you think about the Jackson five, eleven brothers and
sisters and only two of them have passed away, and
the influence that they had. I mean, obviously Michaels just
as one example of the family that had a storied
solo career, but when you look back at the Jackson five,

(32:38):
there's a huge legacy there.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Well, and they're tied in so closely with Quincy Jones.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, yes, there you go.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Very important point. Let's go through a few others. JD Southern.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
People may not recognize the name, but he's one of
the founders of the Southern rock genre of music. He
and Jackson Brown are probably two of the best known
for that. He dated and wrote big hits for Linda
Ronstadt and then he wrote a lot of the early
big hits for the Eagles. So and he played with

(33:15):
a good friend of Yours.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And Yours and Richie Furey Yes.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yes, Hilman Piret was a progressive Southern rock band, and
Chris Hillman was with the Birds, and of course Richie
was with Buffalo Springfield and later Poco.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I think the musical tree there is in and of
itself also quite extraordinary. Let me list some others who
we lost and you can offer some comment after Jeff
Crump as we wind down with you here on KOA.
Paul DeAngelo of Iron Maiden, Richard Tandy of Elo, Joe

(33:56):
bon Sol of the Oakridge Boys, sax player David sam Born,
Steve Albini or is it Albini producer music producer, another one,
Mike Pinder of the Moody Blues and Eric Carman of
the Raspberries.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
H Yeah, most of those guys were original founding members
of the bands that you listened man, I mean Paul
DeAngelo was the original singer for Iron Maiden Raspberry some
of their big hits were all by Myself and Hungry Eyes.
Keyboard player Mike Pinner was a keyboard player and the
last original member of the Moody Blues to go. David

(34:38):
Sanborn is one Grammy's just for saxophone playing alone, John
Bounce I was, he's the lead singer for Oakrage Boys,
or if you remember Elvira, a big you know tenor
voice of his. We've covered most of the others I'm

(35:00):
looking at on here.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, well, it is always something special to remember those
that we lost. Do you have a big picture thought
that we can close with as we wrap up twenty
twenty four and look back at the musicians as we
have that we lost in twenty twenty four, and this
is just a list of some of them. There were
plenty others, and then look ahead into twenty twenty five,

(35:21):
but a reflection on the music world perhaps.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Well, first of all, I'd like to thank you because
we've been doing this going on a decade. Every year
at the end of the year, one of your upcoming
guests is also a tradition on New Year's Eve, And
we started this trend years ago, early on your radio career,
and it's just kind of evolved to where we are today.
Every year, we obviously lose more and more legendary people

(35:50):
in this business. And it's like at the end of
the year when I start thinking about it, I usually
come up with three or four that were real noticeable
to me. And then when I go to Billboard some
of these other sources I have and look him up
ends up being fifteen or twenty that are like, yeah,
how can you leave this guy off the list or
that lady. So it's just been really fun. Yeah, tradition

(36:12):
for you and I to do. And this is the
first time we've done it on KOA. Yes, but I'm
glad to be doing it with you this year.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
This is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
And if we missed anybody who you would like to
mention and have mentioned here on KOA text in and
the KOA Common Spirit Health text line at five six
six nine zero. Who did we miss in our list?
Jeff Crump, music industry veteran, My dear friend, Happy New Year,
and thanks so much for keeping the tradition going well.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Happy to do you give my best to your next guest.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
All right, I shall indeed Bif Gore Ambassador Soul coming
up there, Ambassador of Soul coming up very soon. Jimmy
sangen Berger in for Ross Kaminski. Two more hours up ahead,
keep it here on KOA.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Time now for the second hour.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Jimmy sang in Berger in for Ross Kaminski here on
KOA and I love I hope you enjoyed it too.
The segment that we just did with Jeff Crump, music
industry veteran great text on the KOA Comic Spirit Health
text line at five six six nine zero talking about

(37:19):
the Allman Brothers band Dreams is my all time favorite.
There's a great live version on a double CD from
the nineties. I love the studio version two. Never realized
Molly Hatchett's version was not the original from the seventies,
great version two. No, it was in fact a song
written by I believe it was Greg Allman that he

(37:40):
had a dream and wrote the song Dreams of My
Memory Serves Me Right, and Molly Hatchett did its own
unique cover and by the way, another great Southern rock
band in Molly Hatchet. Now I've asked in five six
six nine zero for you to let me know if
there are any musicians or other musical luminaries that we

(38:00):
lost in twenty twenty four that you think you.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Know you should have mentioned them. Well.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Chad Bauer, just before his newscast, pulled me aside and said, Jimmy,
there's some people you forgotten.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I said, Chad, come on in, let's talk about this. Well,
I do appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Included Paul Deano, who is the original lead singer for
Iron Maiden, who passed away this year. But when it
comes to hair metal, the classic eighties early nineties hair metal,
there are a couple of pretty fairly big names in
that world that passed away this year. Go ahead, please.
One was CJ. Snare, who was the lead singer of

(38:38):
the band Firehouse, Love of a Lifetime and a lot
of you know, a lot of ballads all she wrote,
had some lot of hits in the late eighties early nineties.
And the other one was Jack Russell, who was the
lead singer for Great White, Once Bitten, Twice Shy. And
So when you look at the.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Musicians and their impact, what do you notice them and
from that genre of music.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Well, they were basically when when grunge came to the
forefront in the nineties, the all of the hair bands
pretty much you know, went underground, some many disbanded. But
once the generation that when the generation that originally were
fans of became older and they started appreciating them again,

(39:25):
they've they all kind of reunited, some of them started
making new music, and now you know, groups like Poison
and you know things like that. Their Motley Crew are
still out there doing their thing. They had that little
little blip in the nineties, but they're still to this
day very popular and in a live setting at least.
I mean, you're not going to hear their new songs
on the redio, but on classic radio you certainly will

(39:48):
hear a lot of Poison and Motley Crue and Great
Whites and Firehouse and all those kind of groups.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I'm constantly one of the the when I'm listening to
music stations, I'll listen to Vinyl and classic rewine and
get some some of those some of those tunes in
the mix yep for sure.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Chad Bower, Happy New Year and things too much for
flagging this for me? How could we not include?

Speaker 5 (40:11):
And also missed one other one shifty shell Shock from
crazy Town. Okay, yes, Dulia, I saw they had a
song one hit Wonder called Butterfly.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Butterfly, Yes, okay, Chad Bower, Happy New Year, joining us.
It's always good to have the news guys paying attention
to you and going.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Jimmy, you missed something, and.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Then it's like, come on in, let's make the correction
or the edition, in this case, five sixty six nine
zero our number for the Kawa Common Spirit Health text line.
My mom sang in the high school glee club with
Quincy Jones, Garfield High School in Seattle. Always a fan.
That's really cool, What a cool story. We also lost

(40:51):
soul singer Angela Boufel, she passed away this year. Thank
you as well. Another text coming in at five sixty
six nine zero Shannon Scott saying Sissy Houston as well.
Let's keep them coming. May they all rest in peace.
I also asked a question beginning of the show, what
are some positive things that happened in the year of

(41:14):
twenty twenty four in the news world or personally and
some of the negative stories? Well positive in twenty twenty four,
our listener texted, and my daughter graduated from CSU in
three years and secured a job six months before graduation.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That is fantastic, very very good for her.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Congratulations and what a happy development from twenty to twenty four.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
So as we look at.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
This year, one of the big stories and we'll probably
talk about this a little more with Biff Gore, Ambassador
of Soul.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
We'll talk with him and jam some music soon too.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
The most under covered underreported stories of the year was
a discussion on CBS News. I think yesterday and there
Jan Crawford had this the same and I'm just like
scratching my head.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
About this one undercovered, underreported that would be to me,
Joe Biden's obvious, cognizant decline that became undeniable in the.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Televised debates the presidential debate.

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Was unquestioned, and you know, it's starting to emerge now
that his advisors kind of managed his limitations been reported
in the Wall Street Journal for four years, and yet
he insisted that he could still run for president. We
should have much more forcefully questioned whether he was fit
for office for another four years, which could have led

(42:45):
to a primary for the Democrats. It could have changed
the scope of the entire election. Yet still, incredibly we
read the Washington Post that his advisors are saying that
he regrets that he dropped out of the race. You know,
that he thinks he could beaten Trump. And I think
that is either delusional or their gas lighting present.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, I think that's either delusional or their gas lighting. Look, yes,
a most underreported undercovered story. Sure, maybe in the liberal press,
if you're listening to talk radio off in conservative talk radio,
or you're watching or following a lot of outside of
the mainstream discussions. I mean, the reality is that so

(43:27):
many of us were catching on to this. We're talking
about this, and not only that, but the mainstream media
was catching on to it. They knew for a long time.
I think the New York Times reported on this too.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
They knew for a long long.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Time about this and covered it up. And yet she's
acting like, oh, well, it was really it's a surprise.
We didn't really have any idea exactly the extent of it,
and he shouldn't have run. Yeah, okay, you think, My goodness,
what a time to be alive with media comment and
terry like that. Five six six nine zero, the Kowa

(44:04):
Comment Spirit Health text line, and we've got lots more
coming up. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Ross Kaminsky.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Right here on KOA.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
If this tune doesn't give you a little pep in
your step, I don't know what will. Gotta love it
Heaven from most Lonely Boys as we continue. They were
semi one hit wonders in the sense that This was
their famous song, but they've got so many fantastic, fantastic tunes.
I've been a big fan for a lot of years.

(44:35):
Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminsky in just a little bit.
He's in the house now. We will be joined live
in studio by none other than the Ambassador of Soul himself,
Biff Gore, as we roll along again here on KOA.
So there has been a decline in people watching political news.

(44:58):
CNN's ratings have been struggling, MSNBC's and you gotta wonder,
how does the media explain this, What is their rationale?
What do they make of it? Washington Post Associate editor
Jonathan k Part was on PBS News and he had
some thoughts saying, you know what, they're gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
We just got to wait till the new year.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
We went through it in sixteen, we went through it
in twenty. So we knew that after the election, no
matter what happened, our ratings would fall might have fallen.
I am not ashamed to say that. And we chalked
that up to exhaustion. It's been a long two years.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
We chalked that.

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Up to people just needing a break. To your point,
people need a break. They will come back after inauguration date.
That is guaranteed, because there's going to be a lot
happening in this country that is going to demand their attention,
and they're going to want to know.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
They'll come back. They'll come back. They haven't left permanently.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
We just need Trump back in office, and then Trump
will say the day for the media because people will
start paying attention again.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Huh. Funny how that is.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
He's now openly admitting that Trump in office is good
for the ratings. David Brooks though over there as well
on PBS. He's a New York Times columnist. Right, he
had a different take on the decline in political news.

Speaker 8 (46:20):
I have to say, I'm thrilled by the decline in
viewership for political news. We're over politicized in this country.
People go to politics for a sense of belonging, for
a sense of righteousness. You should go to the You
should go to your friends for those things too. You're
asking more of politics than politics of mayor.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
He's right about that. People paid so much attention, get
glued in. It becomes so much of their lives. And
he would know because he's in the business of political media.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I would too, being in.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That similar sort of vain, but it is I have
to say, that was a good, sort of hopeful take
on this. He's thrilled by the decline in viewership for
political news because it shows that people aren't too glued
to what's going on, aren't too glued to it, and
they're getting a little bit of a break for their lives,
which I think is good. He did have one other

(47:08):
thing that he said his word of the year for
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 8 (47:13):
My word for the year is chasened. For those of
us who oppose Donald Trump, we should be chasing because
the plurality the American people thought we were wrong. If
you're a worshiper of the European social WELFA model, you
should be chasen because that's falling apart. If you hated
me Beho, you should be a little chasen because he
took down Hamas and his Bellah and Asad. So there's
a lot of reason for humility at the end of

(47:34):
this year.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, and those are all good developments in my book,
especially with the major success of Israel in beating back
Hamas and Hezblah in taking it to Iran as a result,
because these are either proxies of or direct arms of

(47:55):
the Iranian regime. And I think you know, chasing is
a fine word for those groups of people. Per David Brooks,
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Ross Kaminsky. I've got
my briefcase full of blues, Biff Gores, got his guitar
and his incredible voice, and we've got some great music
and conversation coming up.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Keep the text going as well.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
At five six six nine zero, the text line for
the KOA Common Spirit Health text line Again Jimmy and
for Ross.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We've got half the show left.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
As we continue on KOA, the best cover of the
Sam and Dave classic. So man, it's the Blues Brothers
bringing us back as we continue. Jimmy Sangenberger here with
you in for Ross Kiminsky on KOA. Very happy to
introduce now my special guest co host for.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
The remainder of the show.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
As we talk, we'll take your text on the KOA
Common Spirit Health text line at five six six nine zero.
And we've got some music play. He's a brother in
the blues, a brother in music. He is the ambassador
of Soul. A military veteran from the United States Army.

(49:10):
He is a pastor Highlight Community Church. He is a
father of seven kids and got very far in season
six of The Voice.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Biff Gore joins me here in studio.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
Brother, Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Jimmy Jam Jimmy Jr. Man,
Thank you so much for having me, and I also
want to thank Kaowa for allowing you to come in
and do the show. I listened to Ross Kaminski on
my way to work pretty much every day, right He's
my drive time voice, and I like the fact that
sometimes I don't get along with what he I disagree

(49:47):
with him on some things, but I like his perspective
because he's a libertarian. And so it's really good to
have this these cross views. And I really appreciate the
fact that they're bringing you in for some the shows
here and so a big shout out to Koa.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Absolutely my thinks as well, it's so great to be here,
and Biff, let's talk a little bit about yourself and
to set up some of the context and to show people,
all right, you're gonna hear it on the show as
we jam, but to show them and let you hear
a little bit of Biff. In twenty fourteen, his blind

(50:23):
audition for season six of The Voice aired. All four
judges turned around. Of course, is guy Usher was the
last to do it. You could watch the video and
he's just waiting and waiting and waiting until there's a
certain point and then he will turn. Here's a bit
of Biff Gore's blind audition on The Voice.

Speaker 10 (50:58):
That's already he's been alone. Don't coming.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I mean, Biff, that voice incredible. Talk to us about
who Bif Gore is.

Speaker 9 (51:29):
Oh, man, I'm a I'm a simple guy, man. I
just you know, I love music. I've been singing my
entire life. I think when I came out of my
mother the doctor slapped me on my backside, and I said.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Hey, don't do that again. That sounds about right. That
sounds about right.

Speaker 9 (51:49):
But I grew up in Baltimore, man, and uh, you know,
really in the in the heart of the South. And
I love I love music, I love people, I love
I love doing ministry stuff. But music is the thing
that just captured my soul from a very early age.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I just have been.

Speaker 9 (52:11):
I just love what music does for people and and
and what music makes us become right because think about this.
I was just in a I was just performing with
a couple of guys who are on the far end
of the spectrum of politics as me. But music is
the thing that binds us together, and it's stronger than

(52:32):
the vibe of music. Uh Shade had a song called love.
Love is stronger than pride. You throw all your pride
out of the window when you're when you're jamming, when
you're grooving, and love takes over because if you don't,
if you have a real love for music, it comes
out and how you sing and how you perform, and

(52:53):
how you express yourself on stage.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
And so that's that's where my heart is.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
And I feel that way through and through, and that's
why I have you in studio. Why we talked with
Jeff Crump earlier, our mutual friend, who's how we met.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
That's right, it's ten years ago because of Jeff.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
He brought you onto my old radio show Elsewhere, and
we had just a great, great time together and we've
been doing stuff on the radio, you and I ever since.
And we did a segment with Jeff in the Last
Hour on the Musicians that we lost in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Four and part.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
We did that because music isn't just for musicians like us.
We have this visceral, real powerful connection, but it's something
that people love and we love to go see live shows.
We love to connect with those musicians. Music will bring
us back when we hear a song to a particular
memory from our childhood or whenever, and there's nothing else

(53:49):
quite like it.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, you are absolutely correct.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
Music is a language, like Stevie Wanted says, it's a
language in and of itself, right, and it transforms. I
love I love listening to I'm a nostalgic guy. I
love listening to music that reminds me of my childhood.
Jimmy Carter passing just I mean, man, that was like
the heyday of my youth when he was President of

(54:17):
the United States. Man, you know, that was in the seventies,
late seventies. And then Ronald Reagan came and he was
probably my favorite president until recently. I do like Donald Trump,
but man, Ronald Reagan spoke a language, and I remember feeling.
I remember I was in junior high school and watching

(54:39):
Jimmy Carter's face when he lost the election, and then
I thought, I looked at my dad, And I said, man,
I said, Dad, did he lose the election because of
all the oil embargoes and the super long lines for
gas and all, you know, inflation was just out of control.
And as a kid man, you know, you think you
you're not supposed to be thinking about that kind of stuff,
But I did because I remember walking with my dad.

(55:02):
My dad said, hey, come and walk with me to
the gas station so you can buy like two gallons
of gas.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Wow. Those are crazy times, man.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That is And here's the sort of the immortalization of
those crazy times.

Speaker 11 (55:14):
It is a crisis of confidence. It is a crisis
that strikes at the very heart and soul and spirit
of our national world. We can see this crisis in
the growing doubt about the meaning of our own lives.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
The Malayse speech. He didn't use the word malaise in
the speech, but that's how it's been known. And that
was one of the big reasons that Carter lost the election.
He seemed very out of touch in that regard. But
since then people have looked at him and say, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
He was on the whole.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Despite some faults, he was a good man who did
a lot post presidency that people recognize.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
One of the things I thought was really cool about
his presidency was when I was a kid, you know,
Camp David was there and we you know, growing up
in the church, we always talk about peace and Middle
East and and and end time stuff. And then watching him, uh,
he had the it was it was I forget yes

(56:17):
and and uh, who is the guy from Egypt.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Oh my gosh, it is uh. So on the tip
of my tongue, mine too, nine too.

Speaker 9 (56:24):
And you know the peace Accords, the David A Piece Accords,
Camp David David Accords, and they signed this deal. They
shook hands, and then on Sada goes back to Egypt
and he's assassinated.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
And I thought, man, this is.

Speaker 9 (56:43):
Carter's legacy will be that he tried to be a
peace maker and and and the world, the world that
hates peace.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Uh shattered that although the peace between Egypt and Israel
has stood, it has the test of these decades by
in law argin that has maintained. But you're right that
it was like it was a big visual representation to see,
oh my gosh, this piece happened, and then look at
the consequence there And listener texted in on the koa

(57:12):
common Spirit Health Text nine five six sixty nine zero.
Looking back at twenty twenty four, Jimmy, I am impressed
with Israel's ability to protect against terrorism, slash enemies quickly.
Happy New Year, Thanks for filling in, enjoy your show.
Thank you for the compliments there. But it's really is
impressive what Israel has been able to do in fighting
against the forces of terror that want its destruction eradication

(57:35):
from the face of the earth.

Speaker 9 (57:36):
That's right, and I think one of the things that
will stand as Trump's legacy when he's far gone from politics,
We'll be talking about how he took the embassy from
Tel Aviv back to Jerusalem, and that has significant that
had a significant consequence and a significant message to the
rest of the world.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yes he was willing to do it, it actually did.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
And on top of that, the Abraham Accords, that's right,
truly remarkable, which I.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
Think they're going to get honored again after this administration
is over. So that's one of the things I'm looking
forward to in twenty twenty five is how do we
how do we right the ship?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yeah, let's do a little bit of music.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
We've got Biff Gore, Ambassador of Soul joining us here
in studio, and look, there are so many different directions
we can go with some of the music this.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Morning, and we will bring it to you.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It is just the heart and soul of so much
and we're gonna I've got my harmonic because I got.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
My briefcase full of blues.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And let's how about we do we start with something
a little peppy, because this show is signs sealed and
delivered a little bit of that tune as we get
rolling here on the program. Biff Gore, Ambassador of Soul,
Jimmy Sangenberger in for Rosskiminski on KOA.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Like a fool, I win stayed too long.

Speaker 9 (59:16):
Now I'm wondering if you love it strong Oo baby here,
I am science.

Speaker 12 (59:23):
He I'm your.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Then that time I win.

Speaker 12 (59:32):
Zigg and by.

Speaker 9 (59:35):
Now I'm backing out a shape of crayd Ooo. Baby here, I.

Speaker 12 (59:41):
Am SENSI the liver, I'm your.

Speaker 9 (59:47):
Here, I am baby, or science he deliver it.

Speaker 12 (59:53):
I'm your.

Speaker 9 (59:57):
Here, I am baby, Oh Science you delivering.

Speaker 12 (01:00:02):
I'm your.

Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
Then.

Speaker 13 (01:00:06):
A lot of foolish things that I didn't really mean.

Speaker 9 (01:00:17):
Seen a lot of things from this so when I
touched them, they did nothing girl, Oop Baby here, I
am Scian see you deliver it.

Speaker 12 (01:00:30):
I'm your ooh.

Speaker 9 (01:00:36):
Wee baby, sending my soul on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
That's why I know that you're my one and only design.

Speaker 9 (01:00:44):
Oop Baby here, I am z Seal the living.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
I you.

Speaker 14 (01:00:53):
Here.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
I am baby who size he deliver it?

Speaker 12 (01:00:59):
Ir he that emb sciens you deliver it.

Speaker 9 (01:01:08):
I I done a lot of foolish things that I.

Speaker 12 (01:01:15):
Really didn't mean.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, that's the way to get.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Something growing, going and grooving in the morning a biff.
Let's talk about musical influences for a moment. Brother, Who
was it in your youth that inspired you to start
singing and ultimately to perform?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:02:03):
Well, I grew up in a musical family, so I
have to say it was my mother. My mother gave me.
She was really my inspiration. She went to Peabody. She
was a music classical piano and voice, and she had
me singing all the time, and she was just an
incredible lady.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
I loved her, and she.

Speaker 9 (01:02:25):
Really was the one who kind of pushed me as
a kid to have an appreciation for traditional music. My father,
on the other hand, was the guy with the crates
and crates and creates of albums, and man, I got
to listen to hours of just different musicians, and so

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I was I had a heart towards Crooner's for a
long time, so Sam Cook, Luther Vandross, Frank Sinatra, you
know guys like that. And then just listening to, you know,
people playing guitar. I had a roy. I saw Roy
Clark playing guitar on television. He was a big name

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back in the seventies, late seventies, early eighties, and man
he had he would have advertised his guitar on uh
before the you know those shopping channels, and he would
talk about, hey, get my lessons and my guitar. And
so I asked my begged my parents. I was like,
please let me get one of those Roy Clark guitars.
And so they bought me one, I want to say,

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for my tenth birthday. Man, and that guitar it's gone now,
but it went everywhere. It went all over the world
with me, amazing to Germany. You know, when I was
stationed in Nuremberg, Germany. Man, I had that guitar with
me and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Bef Let me ask you when it comes to your
style and how you approach both rhythmically on the guitar
and your vocals. Who were some of those influences stylistically
for you?

Speaker 9 (01:03:54):
For me, I would say, I mean Bob Dylan was
was was one guy again Sam Cook, I do people
don't notice, but he played guitar and he played piano
and he arranged, but he was a total cruner on stage,
and he had a great band that backed him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I really liked, I.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
Really, really really enjoyed Bob Marley. I don't know if
you ever heard Redemption song man. He just that's like
the ross, purest exercise of his talent. And so I
was like, I want to be able to play guitar
like that. So that's where some of my style comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
It is it is so many legendary musicians there, from
both the guitar and vocals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I still want to continue as folks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Text in and the KOA Common Spirit Health text line
five six six nine zero, recognizing musicians that we lost
in twenty twenty four. Listener texted earlier, we lost a
member of the Oklahoma Blues Hall of Fame, Curly No
Shoes Junior, and then Mark Muehlberg. He was also of
service in other areas of his life's journey, very very nice.

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Another listener text, by the way, Gabe from wash Park
in Decay, saying, Frank Zappa is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Also from Baltimore. Oh did you know that I did? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Yeah, that's a great one, you know, and I want
to I want to keep that coming as well as
folks your memory looking back at twenty twenty four, What
were some of the positive things and some of the
negative things personally and in terms of the news. And
we'll talk about that coming up as we continue with
Biff Gore, Ambassador of Soul.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
We got one more tune before.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
We go to the top of the hour break and
Biff will stick around into the sec the next hour
of the program. And this is a Biff Gore original.
It is down Home Blues. Will go out to the
break with this one. Take a break as soon as
we're wrapped up with the tune. It's called Blues by Sunrise,
before we get rolling with it with Biff Gore, Ambassador

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of Soul, and your host Jimmy sanging Berger in for
Ross Kiminski on KOA, tell us about this tune, Biff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
You know, I like the song. I wrote the song.

Speaker 9 (01:06:12):
I was just feeling a little down one day, and
actually I was someone inspired me to write this. I
was feeling down, but we were doing a series about depression.
And one thing that blues artists know a little, a
thing or two about a thing or two, is about depression.

(01:06:33):
And I just thought, man, how do you get your
way out of depression? Well, whether it's biblical people or
whether it's secular people, music is the thing that kind
of holds it. It ties all, it ties everything together.
And so I started thinking about this, and this is
really what the Lord kind of gave me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
So Blues by Sunrise Ambassador of Soul Biff Gore and
Jimmy sanging Burger.

Speaker 15 (01:07:38):
We got the morning. There's some teasing my eye, this moning.
I feel like I lost my stride.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
I said, I help me, please, I'm down casting my soul, mean,
no world hold.

Speaker 16 (01:08:18):
Gotten me down. On Monday, I said to me, gotten
me back again, including cuz if you don't help me,

(01:08:42):
there's no help from me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Come on, Joe, what you.

Speaker 14 (01:08:46):
Got amazing grace hand?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
How sweet sound.

Speaker 9 (01:09:39):
Your love, encountess, And now we will be found.

Speaker 12 (01:09:49):
Take my hand dress, takema.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Blues a way. Third and final hour.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Jimmy Sangenberger here with you for Ros Kaminski on KOA
Happy New Year, thanks for being along for the ride,
and my thanks to Ross and KOA for having me
sit in throughout the holidays and be with you. It
has been such a pleasure and a privilege, and it

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is always great, especially when I can have someone like Biffcore,
the ambassador of soul here in studio and I'm calling
him my special guest co host for the rest of
the show if you are just joining us. He was
on season six of The Voice Got Very Far and look,
I got a listener text. I have to ask you, Biff, Jimmy,
please ask Biff how it was to work with Usher

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and then complimentary, really appreciated, saying thanks love the music
you are making my day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Music is life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Very glad to hear that from the KOA Common Spirit
Health text line in five six six nine zero.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So how was it working with Usher?

Speaker 9 (01:11:08):
Well, first of all, thank you text line for writing
in shows much love. You know, I enjoyed working with
us show. He was, you know, he's a mega superstar
and so I learned a lot from him. And one
of the things he had a quote that I loved,
you know, because everyone always talked about well, everyone was
worried about making it to the next level, and he said,

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you know, people would say, oh, if I'm lucky enough
to do this, and he would stop them in their
tracks and he would say, luck favors the prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Ah.

Speaker 9 (01:11:38):
Yes, And that was just like the signature thing that
I took from him and him being a constant professional.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Yeah, that's so remarkable up to hear him say that,
and for you, as someone who was being coached by him,
luck favors the prepared, and that you can't just go
through your life, your career, especially in something like news,
any anything really without having some level of preparation. I
can't come in here unless I'm doing hours of show prep, right,

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it can't work.

Speaker 9 (01:12:07):
Yeah, And you know, and the thing that really really
impacted me, I remember going out for the original audition,
so my whole journey there. We probably could spend a
whole show on that. But when I did the what
was like the first phases of auditions. It was at
SI R Studios in Los Angeles, and it was so

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intimidating because you know that whole you live in Colorado.
When we think about music, we go and we got
the fray and we've got, you know, we've got other stuff,
and people just kind of make it symbiotically. And then
you go out there and you see this giant machine
that is music and is you know, the whole industry
of entertainment. And the thing that got me was when

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I left that day after having the entire my entire
nervous system put on check, was you need to be
Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. You better be in a
place where you are wood shedding every song you know
and honing your craft because this isn't playtime. This is

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the real deal, and this can open some doors for you. Yeah,
I was so profound.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Biffgre our guest here on KOA, let's start for a
moment look back at twenty twenty four, because this was
quite a year in politics. I mean, I have to
be honest, I was really hoping Trump was not going
to be the nominee for president. I wanted somebody different
that didn't end up happening, and lo and behold, Trump won,
becoming the first president since eighteen ninety two with Grover

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Cleveland to become to get a second non consecutive term.
It certainly was a big deal and it's sort of
turning the world on its head right now.

Speaker 9 (01:13:52):
Well, two things happened last year. I usually call you.
We've been jamming together for about ten years now. Yeah, Man,
I always call you. I said, Jimmy, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Man?

Speaker 9 (01:14:02):
I need you to give you the insight. You're like
my bookie when it comes to politics, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
That's a great thing. I have a bookie. You're a
political bookie.

Speaker 9 (01:14:11):
I always call you to say, hey, where are we going,
especially four years ago when the election went completely the
opposite way, right, and how ugly all of that was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And I called you.

Speaker 9 (01:14:22):
And you gave you were the first person to give
me a realistic thing of cold water in the face
and say Trump's not gonna win. And he didn't. And
I avoided calling you this time because I was like, no,
I want to, I want to. I want to. I
want to see a different outcome. And I know that
you're you have a real, realistic pulse.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Well, and this time it was much sooner. It was
pretty clear that Trump was.

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I think the assassination attempt and all of the uh,
all of the lawfair stuff just really helped kind of
push him, uh, push him along. U and so in
twenty twenty four, just seeing how the world corrected itself.
Some of the woke stuff has kind of gone now
and hopefully it'll be gone forever. And then look at

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how many how many organizations says now we're going we
can get rid of our DEI policies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Right major university is a Disney is making a big shift.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
Well, Disney has to because they are they're going brute
uh doing all this stuff that that only benefits one
percent of the population. And you can be diverse, can
be you can have equity, you can have inclusion. Just
do it, don't You don't have to make policies and
do it, Just do it. That's so phony to me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Do you think that when you talk about phony, if
that it's corporate America more than anything, just trying to
put on a certain face to give an impression and
they're paying lip service and it in that way it
is actually degrading to the minority groups that they claim
they're trying to lift.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
Up and totally and here's here's my litmus test for
how you lived your life. When I go to funerals
or I go to weddings and I see who your
friends are around you, and if your friend group, if
your peer group, at the end of your life or
at the most important one of the most important moments,
is your wedding is not diverse, doesn't have a lot

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of doesn't say hey, I'm in every man or I'm
an every woman. I just kind of go, that's what
That's what these organizations are trying to do. Just be
who be, who you're going to be, and people will
gravitate towards you. You know, you can't manufacture this stuff.
That's why when they started telling us that America was

(01:16:43):
so racist and all this crazy stuff. I'd go to restaurants.
I play at restaurants all the time. I look around
a room and i would see a table that there'll
be a Hispanic person, a black person, a white person,
and an Asian person sitting at the same table.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
And I'm going, Okay, how racist is this? Now? Do
we do? We need to still do some work, we
do what we need to do.

Speaker 9 (01:17:03):
What we need to recognize, though, is that when something
is dying, Racism is dying, that sort of classism is dying.
And when it dies or when something is dying, just
like when you see a person who is suffering with
cancer and they rally for a few minutes right and
then boom, they're gone. That's what typically, that's what we

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see when bad things happen, bad racial profile things happen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Bif Gore, we got to take a break. On the
other side, we'll play some music. We continue more rolling along.
Jimmy sangen Berger in for Ross Kaminski on KOA. If
it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck
at all. It's the great late Albert King with Stevie
ray Vaughn in session a live televis broadcast up in

(01:17:54):
Canada back in the early nineteen eighties. And some fun
stories there around that. Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminski.
Shannon Scott doing yeomen's work behind the glasses always and
kind enough to again plug in my request for some
of the best bumper music known to man, Joined here
in studio by the ambassador of.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Soul, Biff Gore.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
And let's give out our websites mine of course, keep
tabs on all my writings, podcasts for filling in and more.
Jimmy Sangenburger dot com. Keep in mind there's no AI
or you in Sangenburger. It's all ease all the time.
Once you know that Sangenburger is easy. Biff Gore, how

(01:18:37):
about you, brother, what's your website? My website is pretty
simple as well. It's Biff Gore dot com. You have
to make it complicated. I love this text that came in. Hey,
Jimmy Ease. I say, Jimmy all ease is a good
radio handle, but Jimmy ease seems more fitting for a
blues man. I appreciate that. I will say. My bluesman

(01:18:59):
stage name is Jimmy Junior.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:19:01):
My blue stage name is Biff Smokehouse Gore.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
That sounds about right. That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Well, you know what, let's play a little bit of
music gets a tight segment here, you know this one, Gosh,
I don't know if anybody would have really thought about
upcount funk with some harmonica and maybe a harp solo
in there, But that's what we're gonna do here. Before
we go into the break, and we've got bottom of
the hour, the final half hour of the Ross Kominsky

(01:19:31):
Show for the year of twenty twenty four. It's crazy
how fast time has flown by Jimmy Singenberger in for
Ross Kaminski with Biff Gore on KOA.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
This hit that ice school, Michelle Fine for that? Why
go this one?

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Hood Girls, the Good Girls, straight masterpieces.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Styling wild and living that up in the city.

Speaker 9 (01:20:09):
I got the chucks, Saint got too pretty, Too.

Speaker 12 (01:20:14):
High high Jam called it fleas said the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Right man, too high high.

Speaker 11 (01:20:20):
Jam.

Speaker 9 (01:20:20):
Take compared to one every tight man, too high high Jam.
See my name, you know who I am. Too high.
Jimmy Jam came a bad about that money. Brick it drownd.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Girl said, hallelujh. Girl said ja Hallelujah. Girl said jah
halleluj is Jimmy Jam.

Speaker 9 (01:20:40):
Don't give it to your I said, Jimmy Jam, gonna
give it to your I said, Jimmy Jam, gonna give
it to you. It's Tuesday night and we end the spot.
Don't believe me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Just watch.

Speaker 9 (01:20:50):
Oh stop, wait a minute, fill my cup, put some

(01:21:11):
kool aid in it, Take a sip. Sign a check, Julio,
who's that ride the flat high park Hill Stout, Colorado.
We show up, gonna show out smoother than the fresh Jos.
Give me too high, Jimmy Jr. Call the police, said
the villa man. Too high, make a drag and want

(01:21:34):
and retirement. Too high, Jimmy, jim see my name, you
know who I am. Too high. I'm bad about that money.
Break it down, girl said.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
The girl said, halleluja.

Speaker 12 (01:21:50):
Yeah said, I'm tele Throne.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Don't give it to you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:53):
I said, I'm down Phone, gonna give it to you.
I said, I'm Jawn thunk Gonta give it to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Bif Gore, Ambassador of Soul joining us here in studio.
You never know what will come up and what we
will play. I appreciate we've got some great texts coming in.
Glad you're enjoying the show. As we wrap up the
year of twenty twenty four in head in to twenty
twenty five, we're gonna take a break. We've got a

(01:22:26):
little more on the other side, and keep the text
coming in the KOA Common Spirit Health text line at
five six six nine zero. Don't go anywhere. You're listening
to k oh A. We are bringing in a brand
new year. Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kaminski on KOA
with special guests. He's basically my special guest cause for

(01:22:49):
the second half of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Biff Gore, Ambassador of soul. Good to have you, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
You know, one of the things from twenty twenty four
is that we had the victory for Donald Trump, which
to me really should put a close to the stolen
election conspiracy theories, not the there's some things we need
to fix. There are there are some clear remedies that
should be put into effect. We need I think a

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photo ID required, and some other checks that need to
be put into place and things to fix up. But
the idea that the election was stolen from Trump in
twenty twenty gush, did they get worse at it suddenly
in twenty twenty four. I think that that sort of
puts a nail in the coffin to that end of things,

(01:23:39):
which which to me is really good. But we need
to take the lesson of that and say, okay, this
is a good development and that makes it clear, but
we have to take that forward and look at what
really needs to be done to strengthen our elections.

Speaker 9 (01:23:53):
Yeah, you know, Jimmy Carter had been people looked at
him like he was a fool because for years they
talked about he talked about election integrity, and he would
travel all over the world, you know, monitoring in other
people's elections, specifically in places like Haiti, you know, and
in Afghanistan and Baghdad. And one of the things that

(01:24:16):
I think happened between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty four,
I mean twenty twenty, I'm sorry, twenty twenty and twenty
twenty four was a lot of the states pass laws,
common sense laws on how you can vote. Election day
should be election day, not election month. You need to

(01:24:38):
have a form of ID. Man, you can't even well
thought I was going to say, you can't get on
a plane without an ID, but you can if you
have if you have this paperwork that says I'm an illegal, right,
if it says I am, well in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
That case for it's a status thing illegal immigrants. No,
you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
You can get through through other means across the or
or not through traveling. What you do is you end
up overstaying your visa. So you come here legally and
then you overstay if you're doing a flying right.

Speaker 9 (01:25:06):
But there are people who are flying with this paperwork
and they don't have any ID. So I'm just saying,
I think we're going to see better elections, and we
just need to hold people. We need to hold people accountable.
And when I say hold people accountable, I mean we
need to we the citizens. We need to say here's

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what Here are the measures that we need to have.
And I think people should volunteer to be a part
of the election process. You can judge be an election,
judge count votes. You can hold the Secretary of State accountable,
whoever that person is. And I think we need to

(01:25:51):
come up with more rules about not being sloppy about
things right, I mean, how many votes are left in mailboxes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
How many votes are lost just.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
Simply by common sense what we would consider common sense things. Well,
your vote is lost because somebody didn't empty out a
post office.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Yeahs, it is not often that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
But one example where it did Tina Peters, the disgraced
former clerk of Masa County, now serving nine years behind
bars for stolen election breach when she first became clerk
and recorder, and it was I think in twenty nineteen
they found five hundred ballots in a drop box. That
this is something that just does not happen usually, but

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they found five hundred ballots in a drop box that
were not collected.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
And she shrugged it off.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
She was like, oh, it wouldn't change any votes, and
now she's all hysterical on so many things. But it
is an example where really it comes down to human
error more than anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
In Mesa County there there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Were ballots that were cast fraudulently by these two people,
one working in a post office, one who was just
an activist, and they were both followers of somebody, an
associate of Tina Peters by the way, but they wanted
to prove, oh, something can happen in the election, so
they intercepted other people's ballots and cast them and the

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post office worker helped. These are the allegations, and three
votes ended up being counted out of like between a
dozen and twenty votes. And the reason why that happened
is because a human, an election judge, didn't follow the
procedure properly, and those three ballots went through signature verification
and ended up being counted.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Usually it is human beings that mess up that are
the problem.

Speaker 9 (01:27:39):
Yeah, like the security breach down at the Secretary of
State's office when they released all those passwords.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Man, I mean, what in the world.

Speaker 9 (01:27:49):
We just have to do better, That's what it boils
down to and I think twenty twenty twenty twenty four,
we saw us doing better. Actually, here's what I would do, man,
if I was president of the United States, I would
make election I would make Super Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
A federal holiday. Give people to day off. Man, go
go election day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Yeah, I mean that's something Democrats pushed for for many,
many years.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
You could do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
I don't think you're going to get rid of early
voting in most states, certainly not in Colorado. We have
this system of vote by mail. Most people, by the way,
vote by mail, so to speak, but it's really through dropboxes.
That's that's how I usually voter. You drop off your ballot,
take their accountability there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I don't know. I'm kind of waffle on that on
that point. I'm not so sure. I'd also get rid
of daylight saving time. But you know that's me too,
me too.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
You know what, Let's let's play a little Vasa bifor
Ambassador of Soul here in studio, and let's get Peppy
a little fullsome prison blues. Oh and we can jump
in into that first, and then we'll do a little
Tennessee whiskey. But if we could start off of that
It's a great country classic by the great late Johnny Cash. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Let me set the sub force.

Speaker 9 (01:29:18):
I hear trainer coming, it's rolling around, and then I
ain't seen not sun. I don't know where, but I'm
stuck in Killoway. The time keeps dragging, but I got
train and keeps rolling to say dance home. When I

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was just very my mama told me, son, always be younger.
No man, know you ever play with guns? But I
shot a man.

Speaker 12 (01:30:02):
You want some day?

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Could I hear that a whistle blue well spring my
head and color?

Speaker 9 (01:30:15):
Come on, Jimmy, give it to a minute. I bet

(01:30:47):
this rich folk eating and a fancy dining car. They're
probably drinking confee and smoking those big cigars.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
But I know I had it coming.

Speaker 12 (01:30:59):
Nothing. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I can't be reading.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
But don't people keeping loving tontous? Well, if you feed
me from this prison, if the railroad train were mine,
I'm going out on a little further further on down a.

Speaker 17 (01:31:25):
Line from forsome prisoners, well the state and now let
that alonesome whistle blama blueser with.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Hey, hey, yeah, I think we did.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Johnny Cash Proud Biff Gore, Ambassador of Soul Biff Gore
dot Com. You got any shows coming up, anything going
on in the beginning of the year, Yet.

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
You know, I am going on tour the middle of this,
sort of towards the end of this month. I'm going
out with a group called Blue Gospel Scripts. So we're
going to We're doing like ten shows over over like
twelve days, and so we'll have a break in between.
But anyway, so I'm doing some of that stuff and
just looking forward to the spring of the year. It's

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gonna be it's gonna be a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Yeah, it's a new year, very fresh in so many ways.
There's a lot to be looking forward to. I've been
wanting to read this text. This is just too fun.
The KOA Common Spirit Health text line five six six
nine zero. Jimmy, I saw Bo Diddley at the Buffalo
Rose in one of his final shows. A fight broke out.

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Bo had them thrown into the alley. Best show ever.
You kind of love that he was alleged Bo Diddley,
Oh yeah, you gotta absolutely love that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
So as we look ahead to twenty twenty five, what
are you most looking forward to? Just the change in things.

Speaker 9 (01:33:03):
I'm hoping that having a new president, having a new
administration will spark our economy towards you know, lower interest rates,
lower inflation. And I'm just looking for you know, America
is great. I'm just looking forward to America being greater

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than living up to his potential, you know. I mean,
there's a reason why people want to come here and
live here. There's a reason why people are willing to
jump over fences and stuff and and come here and
break the law to come here because America is great.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
You know one thing, and I talked about this on
the show yesterday, and you're making such a profoundly important
point that we all know is true. It's a truism
that America is the land of opportunity, freedom, so many
things people want that we take for granted when they'll
come here illegally and risk all to make it happen.
There's this talk and it's like, oh, what Trump wants
to do on a legal immigrant is inhumane, It's unjust,

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it's terrible. Actually, it is humanitarian to want to get
rid of the six hundred thousand plus criminals who or
illegal immigrants who are committing crimes, especially the likes of
Trend de ar Agua. Now they're gangs in cartels of
Sinaloa cartel that are preying upon those illegal immigrants who
are the most vulnerable in our society, who may be
concerned about going to police because they don't want it

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to be deported, so on and so forth. And that
is that is what the Trump administration is going to
be doing, and getting rid of one point seven million
illegal immigrants who've already gone through a judge and had
their case and we're told you've got to be deported,
and yet are still here. That's what they're focusing on,
not the you know, the kids and the families and

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so forth that have been here. There may be possibilities
in the future, you never know, but really those are
the focus areas. And that is humanitarian.

Speaker 9 (01:34:52):
I think it is too and I think it's I
think that it is inhumane and have people walking through
jungles that you've incentive to come here, and that's I
think our government can be held responsible for some of that.
We it is irresponsible to have children, women being raped,
and we talk about we love women, we love we're
not standing excuse me, we're not standing up for these vulnerable.

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These people are vulnerable and they're paying they're being exploited.
How about all the kids who we've lost, who have
been probably they're probably being traded in the secutary right now.
It's it's it's abominable, and I think we need to
get back to doing what's right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Compassionate border crackdown is coming and I'm looking forward to
those policies and those changes here as we get into
twenty twenty five, we're gonna do two more a little
two and is one is the great song Tennessee Whiskey.
And then we always love to end with a special surprise,

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so we will get to that. Bif go our ambassador
of soul in studio, Jimmy saning Berg.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
In for Roskominsky.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Many kind all is back coming up at the top
of the hour here on Koa.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Used to spend my nights in a bottom.

Speaker 9 (01:36:18):
NICKAWIZI only live, I know, but you're rescuing me from
reaching the bottom, drum me badard from being too from

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You're in smooth. It's turning as se RISCy. You're in sweet,
oh sweet, like some strawberry worm. You're in the world.
There's a glue ads of brandy. I say, storm only

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your love all the time. He looked for the love,
and all the same old places.

Speaker 12 (01:37:21):
Found the bottle und The bottle was always dry.

Speaker 9 (01:37:29):
When you pulled out your heart. I didn't wasted because
there's nothing lying your love to get me high.

Speaker 12 (01:37:42):
Your wrist bo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Standing to see whiskey.

Speaker 12 (01:37:50):
Your wrist sweet, oh sweet like some strawberry.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Wow, your me alone.

Speaker 12 (01:38:01):
Man's a girl of.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
Brand aid honey. I stay stone on. You're a learn
all the time. Come on, Billner, what you got to say?

Speaker 12 (01:38:44):
Your wrist.

Speaker 9 (01:38:48):
Stantasy whiskey, You're written sweet, so sweet like some strawberry.

Speaker 13 (01:38:57):
Wide, there's a geaze ready atone on your.

Speaker 12 (01:39:12):
Yay all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
fIF Gore, Ambassador of Soul five six six nine zero
The koa Common Spirit health text line.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
I have to read this text. This is we will
we will both love this iff. You guys taken me
back to win this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Teenage rocker saw bb King at the Rainbow Music Hall
in nineteen eighty four for eleven dollars and twenty cents.

Speaker 12 (01:39:47):
Wow, oh, you cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Get into anything, but you know a local act for
eleven dollars and twenty cents. Season No, that's that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Let's they've given it away for free. Amen, to that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
You know, we always have a tradition that we have
done when we've done these jams New Year's Jams on
the radio, Biff Gore, where we just make up something.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
You fill in the words I want a flat key
or what or what are you doing? G okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
We could stay in the Kia g at the request
of Biff Gore, Ambassador of Soul Biff Gore dot Com.
Thanks so much, brother for joining us here. The honor
is ours in mine. Thanks to Ross Kiminsky and Koway
for allowing me the opportunity to sit in here on
the program for throughout the holidays.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Have a great year. We'll see on the other side.
I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for Ross Kiminski.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Mandy Connell is back right here on KOA Happy New Year.

Speaker 18 (01:40:49):
May God bless America. Amen Will it's about to be
twan nik five. I said this about to be journey
johny f.

Speaker 9 (01:41:12):
If we're gonna see some things change, we gonna stay alive,
a new ministration about to be swarming, and Jimmy and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
We're gonna do it again.

Speaker 9 (01:41:37):
We're gonna play some blues. Put on our blue sweat shoes,
and come on, Jammy, what you got to say. Oh, Jimmy,
jam what you got to say?

Speaker 12 (01:42:02):
I'm gonna garge you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Then get your.

Speaker 9 (01:42:04):
Boxing girls, play me those blues, cause ye, we're gonna

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do things right here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
We're gonna go out and put up for five.

Speaker 12 (01:42:52):
Maybe it's somebody let me see the.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
End to day night saving time. You got them lose.

Speaker 19 (01:43:04):
We got them blue, We got them blues. We got
them blue, We got them blue.

Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
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