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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somehow Gina and I are not wearing our Broncos gear
and dragon.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You were a little displeased with me.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I figure that's just because you are that confident, because
it's it's the races right now.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You don't want to look past anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You know what happens and you start looking past and
looking to the next game. But I but we all
wore our Broncos stuff earlier this week already, which maybe
why neither Gina nor Ies wear That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I usually try to do it after wins, but I
guess do I have to wear it before? And I
don't have enough Broncos stuff to be wearing it every
Monday and every Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well maybe we need to fix that. Maybe I do too,
I mean I have enough, but it would be the same.
I've got two things basically, so i'd be you know,
all right.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I just want to verify that you've already set
your schedule so that you will be listening at some point.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
At some point broadcast at some point game. I'm what
I might.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Tend to know when Ross Kaminski listens to the KO
broadcast with Rick, Dave and Susie.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So what I might actually do I've been telling listeners
about this, but I might do it too, And because
I did this couple of weeks ago, at.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Two pm on Sunday, you can meet up.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Up with Ben Albright and Nick Ferguson, the co hosts
of of Broncos Country tonight at burn Down, Denver, which
is on the east side of Broadway Down kind of
downtown ish burned Down, Denver anyway, two pm on Sunday,
watch the game with Ben and Nick and you can
register to win Broncos Packers tickets.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
By the way, that's all presented by Arta.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Tequila, the official tequila of the Denver Broncos. So I
might I might actually do that for the first half
of the game, Dragon, and then drive home and then
listen to the second half. It worked last time, it worked,
last time I did it, So we'll give We'll give
that a try.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Dragon is very very certain that I need to do
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
One quick kind of money and markets mention I would
like to make. It's been a sort of an interesting
period of time with the government shut down preventing the
release of some data that normally we would have gotten.
And the reason some of this data particularly matters is
that there's a FED meeting next week when the FED
is going to decide about whether the lower interest rates
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or not.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You may recall there was a modest stock market.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Sell off a couple weeks back, a few weeks back
when the market started thinking that the FED would not
cut next week. I've been thinking the whole time that
they would cut next week. I maintain my view that
they will cut next week. But the reason I want
to mention this to you right now is that at
six thirty, which as I'm speaking to you in this moment.
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It'll be different if you're listening to podcast, but as
I'm speaking to you at this moment, is twenty two
minutes from now, we are going to get the what
would it be October? I think they're releasing it later,
it doesn't matter. But we're going to get the last
inflation report that we'll get before the FED meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Which is next week.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So we'll just keep an eye on that, and in
the next hour after it's come out, i'll tell you
what happened. But economists are estimating around two point eight
percent for that. That Money and Market's commentary brought to
you by Blue Heron.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So a couple other stories I want to do.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't have don't have Gina's discipline to just stay standing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean I should.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Gina's been standing all morning, and I feel like, all right,
I'm a standing I sat down, I'm a stand up again.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I feel like I could be youth. Yeah. Yeah, So
I still don't.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Know how old Gina is, and I'm not asking, but
what we did ascertain yesterday is that I bought my
first computer before she was born. So we know what
the maximum we know what the maximum age is.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I would also like to mention again that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I encourage you to listen to Colorado his morning news
between five am and six am if you are awake,
because you're gonna learn things. And one of the things
I learned today and I said this yesterday too, by
the way, nobody asked me. Gina didn't ask me to
say it is so what I learned today was that
story about the sergeant showing up drunk at the Evergreen
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High School shooting. What an insane, insane story. But yeah, yeah,
you learn things when you listen to Gina in the morning,
and hopefully when you listen to me and Gina together.
All right, let me do a couple of more national
stories now for a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Oh one other thing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Before I get to that, let me just tell you
some of the awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Guests we have coming up on the show today.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In about twenty five minutes, we're gonna have Adam O'Neil,
who is the new opinion.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Editor at the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
This guy is being brought in by Jeff Bezos to
give a wider range of views and make sure that
some conservatives or libertarians or whatever along with liberal views.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Of course, are going to be heard.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, that's a mixing metaphors when you say, we're hearing
something that's in print, but you get the idea.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So that's pretty cool. An hour later, so.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
An hour twenty twenty something minutes from now, Denver Mayor
Mike Johnston joins the show. In the eight o'clock hour,
we're gonna have Aaron Bird, who's the director of marketing
for Denver Botannic Gardens, talking to us about Blossoms of Light,
Trail of Lights, and we'll tell you about that, and
we're going to give away some tickets for that, and
then we're gonna have Ryan Edwards previewing the Denver Broncos
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game in Las Vegas this Sunday. So all right, let
me do a couple of quick national stories with you.
So first, I mentioned this briefly yesterday just when the
news was breaking. There's a little more information now that
the FBI has erected or arrested a suspect in the
January sixth pipe bomb investigation. The videos showed that somebody
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who was wearing a hoodie, a mask, glasses, and gloves
put pipe bombs next to the Democratic National Committee headquarters
and the Republican National Committee headquarters. What's very interesting about
this story, about the fact that they found this guy
five years later.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, there's a few interesting things about it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But one of the things that really jumped out at me,
and I listened to some but not all, of the
press conference, is they said, so it was the FBI
director and the attorney general and the chief of police
for Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And a few other folks were there. What they said was.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The way they cracked this case was they got rid
of the previous investigative team that was, you know, from
the Biden administration, and they just replaced them with new investigators.
And the new investigators did what investigators do, and they
found the guy without any new evidence or any new tips.
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They used information, they say, they used information that the
FBI had already, which is sure not you know, a
reason for the previous group to win some kind of award,
except maybe Dumpkoff award or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But I thought that part of the story was very.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Interesting that they they solved it with data they had already.
They so, I guess the guy drove to the area.
His car license plate was seen on one of those
license plate readers.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So when they got to you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Know, having a few suspects, and they say, well, maybe
this guy, what's his license plate, Let's see if his
car was around there, right, So they did that. The
other thing they found was that his cell phone pinged
near the RNC and near the DNC. They found that
he's been buying bomb making equipment for probably at least
two years before that.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
What else.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The bombs apparently were viable, they said, which means theoretically
they could have exploded, but they but they didn't. He's
I think they said, he's thirty years old. He's a
African American man who who is described by Janine Piro
as quiet and low key. There's very little online about him.
So far, people aren't finding much of anything about you know,
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what he believes, what he thinks, any political motivation, anything
like that. He lives with his mom and some other
family members in a house in a DC suburbs. Just
a very unusual kind of suspect for this, you know,
sort of guy in the picture NBC has, you know,
he's wearing a white shirt and blue tie and glasses
and a nice smile. Again, a young African American man.
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And there's just a lot more, a lot more to learn.
Let's see, Gina already told you about the Texas maps,
so I think I'm not going to tell you more
about that right now. The one other national story I
just want to mention quickly is that you recall that
a court throughout the indictments against Jim Comey and Letitia
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James that were brought in the Eastern District of Virginia
by a woman named Lindsay Halligan, who was named to
be the US attorney there, named illegally to be the
US attorney there. And also I think kind of unethically,
she never had anything to do with criminal law. She's
you know, like one of Trump's personal real estate or
insurance lawyers or something like that. But they put her
in that spot to try to go get Trump's political enemies.
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A judge threw all that out a grand jury. What
the DOJ went back to a grand jury to indict
New York Attorney General Leticia James on this mortgage fraud stuff,
and they failed to get an indictment, which is pretty
remarkable because we hear all the time about how you
can indict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, I guess not if you're the Trump DOJ.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't remember if I heard this on KOWA or
on TV news, But did you see this story? I
think it came from Lending Tree of a poll about
which states had the best drivers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Do you see in the story?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yes, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So, first of all, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Was really shocked, and probably all of us in this
room were pretty surprised that Colorado came out as having
the third best drivers, because I think a lot of
us don't don't think that way. I was also really
surprised that either first or second, I don't remember which
it was, it was California because I think of them
as terrible drivers, but especially when they come here.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Especially in the context of all the jokes that we've
been making, especially when we talked with Courtney from from
from KADIVR with her, you know, driving Miss das Daisy
designated driver with her that Michigan came in it was
either first or second best drivers in the country. And
that's why Gina can drive to Vail in the middle
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of a snow storm in a two wheel drive Volkswagon.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, what's worse than that? People have ever driven Wolf
Creek Pass?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, that's what I did in my Volkswagon.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Uh did you realize.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Last year, two years ago Thanksgiving? It was just.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Honestly that was that was very, very reckless about The
snow was coming down so hard, it was so bad.
But we never drove Wolf Creek Pass before, so I
had no idea that there was just straight up cliff
sides next to us.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
We were just going through not a care in the world.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But uh, yes, Michigan did top that list.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was Michigan number one, and then Florida, now California, Florida.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That's what I wanted, was Florida, Florida as the number
two best where the average age of a driver is
ninety seven years old.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I have lived in all three. Not Dragon.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I was Dragon looked at me, were like, wait, what
is that real? It wasn't real, Dragon, I was making
it all top three.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes, it was in California, and Florida should be at
the very very bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
My California thing was an error. But yeah, Florida, that
was that was weird. That was definitely weird. I think
Florida probably. So first of all, they probably drive real slow, right,
not all of them.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It depends where you are, right, if you're at Boca.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
With all the old Jews, like all of my distant cousins, right,
they're gonna drive pretty slow. But also they don't they
don't get much snow. Yeah, and and so I've.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Not looked into how they like decided on how they
would rank these.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Michigan was number one.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Michigan was number one, then it was Florida, then it
was Colorado. But when it comes to Florida, not only
do they drive really slow, but they drive in like
a careless, nice way of like they'll stop in the
middle of a road to let a car come out
of a driveway.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And then you've got everybody rear ended to each other
because they're like you don't stop right there. So it's
just like Michigan drivers though. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So what this says is what they're looking at accident rates, uys,
speeding related incidents and general citations, traffic tickets or whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Speeding is probably where Florida gets high up.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, because they're.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Driving under Yeah, everyone's driving under this. But so now
at least all these jokes we are like half jokes.
They're not not you know, if you're going to be
driving in Michigan, but you know, in the winter, you
got to you gotta know what you're doing. So anyway, anyway,
I just thought I would share that with you. So
here's a goofy little thing. Today is Repeal Day. So
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it was on it was actually I think, yeah, yeah,
so it was December fifth, nineteen thirty three was the
end of prohibition, okay, and so December fifth today is
Repeal Day. And I know this is not a very
convenient time, but I'll just mention it to you because
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Axios Denver has this. There's a pretty cool Art Deco
style bar inside the Oxford Hotel Hell downtown and they
are celebrating Repeal Day with thirty five cent cocktails. Now
here's the catch, So Gina, pay attention, because you don't
live that far from all this. If you want a
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thirty five cent drink, it can be an old fashioned
a Manhattan, a Tom Collins, or a classic Martini. And
it's and it's at the the Cruise Room in the
Oxford Hotel. But it's only four pm to five pm today. Yeah,
so they put it at a time where very few
people are going to be able to get there, and
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they won't have to sell very many drinks for thirty
five cents, and yet they still get the gullible talk
show host on KOA giving them free publicity. Right, yep,
is there any do you drink any of those?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And Manhattan all about old fashions of Manhattan's I don't
what were the other ones?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Tom Collins? I don't even remember what's in that dragon?
Can you tell us what's in a time?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Collins?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're asking the guy on the show that doesn't that
doesn't drink it all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Not a freaking clue, Yeah, Tom Collins is a cocktail
made of gin lemon juice.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Sugar and carbonated water. Okay, I drink that like a spark.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
The second one gin lemon juice, it's like a sparkling lemonade.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That sounds good, they call it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So that's and I like, I've just kind of started
getting into old fashions a little bit. Mostly I just
drink bourbon like neat rarely with one piece of ice,
but usually with none. So anyway, thirty five cents from
four pm. Here's what I want to do. Okay, here's
my goal. You're any people, here's what this is what
we're doing next week. I want to read a report
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in the news that the Oxford Hotel has gone bankrupt
because so many people went and bought thirty five cent
cocktails today from four pm to five pm as long
as I'm going to give them free advertising.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Is there a limit? Does it say any any type
of limit?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Doesn't say I.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Mean obviously they can't over sell you.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But doesn't say I mean you could show how many
drinks because you buy with five bucks. They told me
there'd be no math, but it'd be like thirteen or four.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So how many drinks can you drink in an hour
for thirty four cents?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Or could you order him in advance?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, like, oh you know, send me they got
his five minutes left, Bring me three of them, right, yeah, Okay,
so people, this is our goal. Bankrupt the Oxford Hotel
by everybody going to the cruise room and buy thirty
five cent drinks from four pm to five pm.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That was very, very silly.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
When we come back, I'm so excited for this conversation.
Adam O'Neill is the new opinion editor at the Washington Post.
Not a guy who it's easy to get on a
radio show, but we've got him.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's after news, weather and traffic.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I am. I'm so excited for this conversation. You know,
I think you know if you've been listening to me
for a while, that I love I love reading opinion pages, editorials,
op eds, and I love writing them as well when
I have time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And I saw a fascinating.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Interview, which, by the way, is link on my blog
at Rosskaminski dot com so you can read it yourself.
It was an interview by my friend Nick gillespie of
Reason with Adam O'Neill, who is the new opinion editor
at the Washington Post. And the headline is is the
Washington Post becoming Libertarian? So let's just jump right into
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the conversation. Adam O'Neil, Welcome to Koa. It's really good
to have you here.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I'm excited to talk about what we're up to at the.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Post before we get it, and we're going to spend
almost all the time on that. But before we get
to that, just so tell us a little about you.
You told me you started a little bit in talk
radio at very low level, but like just briefly on
your background and also are you a libertarian?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah, I have had a you know, I want to
I don't want to say a standard journalism career because
I've kind of zigzagged all over the place, but got
started in talk radio, bounced around at some digital publications,
spend time at a couple of newspapers and.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
The Economist, and then I've been at the at the
Post now for about four months. And as to whether
I'm a libertarian, you know, there's small libertarian, you know,
and capital l I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party,
and I don't know if every view I have is
necessarily libertarian, but I think that there's a lot that
the country can benefit from from a lot of libertarian
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ideas in different ways. And I think that's been reflected
a lot in what we've been doing at the page.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I have a feeling if if you and I sat
down over a beer or bourbon, we would probably agree
on a lot. I think of myself as mostly Lowercaselle libertarian.
My son's middle name is Rand to give you a
sense of kind of where.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Are I am? All right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So you you were? You were brought in for a reason.
Nobody makes a decision this big without a reason. What's
the reason or reasons why you?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I think the posts we've really wanted to re energize
and reinvigorate the opinion section. Our owner announced earlier this
year that we would be reorienting the section toward free
markets and personal liberties, and those are north stars. And
if you look at the different places I've worked in
my career, that's always been a consistent through line of
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advocating these core American values, pushing for more freedom in
the economic realm, in the personal realm. And so it
just felt like a natural fit. And I had reached
out and went through the process. And so there's the
ideological aspect of it or the philosophical aspect of it,
and then there's just the practical matter of changing the
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newspaper and our section of the newspaper, the opinion section,
And that's really what I wake up and focus on
every day is how do we not just advocate that
north star and think through it, but how can we
host really interesting debates within free markets and personal liberties
because that's a huge range of prudential questions about how
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high should taxes be, what do you actually want to
regulate or not regulate, And so we're not, you know,
spitting out talking points, but really hosting a debate from
all sort of corners of politics in our pages.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I will say it was not entirely coincidental that after
reading this interview about you, I bought a digital Washington
Post subscription, So and I think that that sort of
relates to what you're saying about sort of the practical,
the practical aspect of this. I also want to I
want to remind listeners of something as we're talking with
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Adam O'Neill, the new opinion editor at the Washington Post,
that within these organizations, there's a very important firewall that
really is honored between the opinion section and in the
news people. So just as you're hearing this conversation, don't
think about the news part. It's not what Adam is doing.
So Adam, it did you when when you looked at
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the Washington Post as you were thinking about this job
within the opinion section, did you think that there was
an obvious bias either through what was printed or what
wasn't printed that made you think, for both of the
reasons you just described, like this is the kind of
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change we need to make.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, one first, thank you for subscribing.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That's exactly what we're trying to do is get subscribers,
not just in the DC area. We love our subscribers here,
we create a lot of value for them, but across America.
And I'll say this about the opinion section, they before
I arrived, the Washington Post had endorsed presidential candidates for
half a century and they never once endorsed the Republican.
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And I don't spend a lot of time thinking about
individual contributors in the past or looking back on it.
But one of our core issues is that we're a
non partisan institution. And I think that the Post, throughout
its history almost one hundred and fifty years, has done
great journalism, whether on the new side or the opinion side.
And there still does of people who were here before
I got here, who are still working here, who believe
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in the mission and are doing a great job. But
we've moved away from a partisan identity that the section
might have had in the past, and it hosted a
range of voices and so I don't want to paint
a broad brush on everybody. But the endorsement issue, I
think is just a real clear crystallization. Every four years,
you knew which party was getting the endorsement from the Post,
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and that's no longer the case. I want people when
they read us to be surprised, and I think that's
happening a lot. They're not going to know if we're
going to hit a Republican or Democrat or praise a
Republican or Democrat based on party. But instead it's first
principles that are guiding us. And that's really how we're
thinking about it going forward.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
As part of the process. Did you meet with Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jeff and I are totally aligned, and he's involved in
the paper, but he hires leaders to lead and not
really a micromanager on that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, got it, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So we've just got abe maybe ninety seconds here. So
how excited are you for this? And do you believe
that there is a real market? Because I do, Actually,
I don't know. For example, I don't know if you're
aware of a network called News Nation and they're trying
to stake out kind of being honest, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Don't even want to say centrist.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I want to say even handed, because they'll have partisans
on both sides to have a debate. But they're even
handed and kind of feels to me like that's what
you want to do. But a lot of the big
boys in TV and even in newspapers seem to have
thought that the market just comes from offering confirmation bias.
So are you confident there is a market for what
you are trying to do?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I genuinely do believe that there is. We've got millions
of subscribers. They're very smart, discerning people, and we're continuing
to provide a product that they're going to like. At
the same time, there are millions of people across America
who frankly don't trust big legacy media institutions, and what
we're trying to do is say it's going to take
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some time to rebuild that trust, but check us out
come to the opinion section, and you'll see that there
really is a range, and over time a lot of
things you'll say like, oh, hey, they were right about that,
or oh maybe they didn't get that right, but they
had an interesting way of thinking about it. And we
think that we can diversify our audience geographically, political outlook,
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different age groups. We really think that there are a
lot of people who would get a ton of value
from what we do, and they just either have lost
the trust or they just don't know it's there. So
it's finding the readers where they are and consistently showing
them there's value in the Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Post and in Post opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
You're going to have the most interesting debates going on
in the country on a daily basis when you open
up the app or the print edition or wherever you
like to read it or on social.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I will say, I believe you that you have smart
and discerning readers and subscribers, but you also have me
in addition to In addition to those people, you also
have me. So so there's that, and thanks so much
for your time. I wish you lots of success and
maybe if you're open to it. I'll be in touch
to see if I could potentially write for you from
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time to time.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I love that and you know I'd love to hop
on some time in the future just chat about the news.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It's great. Let's keep the dialogue going.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Ross Absolutely Adam O'Neill is the new opinion editor at
The Washington Post. Thanks, congratulations, good luck, and we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Thanks man, Take care well.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Whiskey fans from across the country, possibly the globe even
lining up at Stranahan's Distillery and Denver ahead of tomorrow's
where Snowflake Whiskey release.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The pre release party is kicking off with.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
The festivities today and Kaway's Connor Shreeve spoke with the
Straanahan's head blender Justin Adden about the events.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, we're gearing up as we speak.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
We're starting to have RB campers pulled in and get
situated in our back lot. But essentially what Snowflake is
is it started as an opportunity to release some very
rare whiskeys from the depths of our barrel warehouses, really
introduce new flavors, especially finishing styles.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Of barrels from around the world.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
And as that popularity and word of mouth got out.
We grew into a whole event, so so much more
than just a rare bottle release which will happen Saturday morning.
We now have what we call Snowflake Village and we
have people in and we've made basically a whole block party,
a giant tailgate out of it. Our entire distillery campus
is open. It's a free event. You're welcome to come in.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We have live.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
Music, food trucks, there's a barrel demonstration, a cigar bar,
you name it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How long have you seen that line before?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's quite big.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
We usually expect about a thousand people actually on their
feet in line for Saturday morning.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
You've said a couple of times it's about more than
just a rare release, but the release, quite frankly, is
what matters to me.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So tell me about what we're looking at this year.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah, it's a blast, So we of course call it snowflake.
That term came from the idea that no two should
ever be alike. And I think when you think about
how much support we have and you recognize that fans
are coming sight unseen, it's baked into the very DNA
of this release that it's not going to taste anything
like last year or years past. What I get to
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do as a head blender is spend basically all year
long putting together some combination of flavors that they've never
seen before that I think are shining at the top.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of their game.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
These barrels are peaking, and put them together and never
have to reproduce it again. So we take a ton
of pride in making sure it lives.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Up to that again.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
The Stranahan Snowflake release takes place tomorrow with the official
bottle release.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
People line up like it's Black Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
The exact time of the release is generally a surprise.
Ross will be honest, I don't really know if I
know the difference between whiskey and bourbon.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Is you're a bourbon drinker.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I like both. I used to be more of a
whiskey drinker. Now I'm more of a bourbon drinker. And
I'll bring you some of each and you can see,
are they not?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
They're not the same.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They're related.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They're closely related, although Buren bourbon generally has a lot
more corn. And yeah, they're they're they're closely related. And
you if since you don't drink a lot of either
of these things. You might not even think they're very different,
But I mean, are you open to a small taste
if I bring some as well, that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, that would definitely be fun.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
All Right, what we're gonna do here, We're gonna get
some weather and traffic and Gina on the news, and
then I want to share with you some of what
I think are the major takeaways from yesterday's congressional hearing,
at least what's been leaked about it. About that second
strike on a drug boat. I want to make sure
you know, for for Broncos fans out there on on Monday,
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Gina and I are going to have Broncos Packers tickets
to give away. More than one pair of tickets we're
gonna have to give away on Monday, So you're gonna
want to make sure to listen for that, And well,
of course you want to listen all the time anyway,
I know, I know. Uh So I want to just
talk a little bit about this hearing that was behind
closed doors, but it wasn't highly classified, and so some
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of the members of Congress who who heard from Admiral
Mitch Bradley about this second strike, and then I guess
third and fourth strike on this drug boat back on
September second. A lot of these folks came out and
talked to the media, and you know, sometimes after these things,
you'll see news reporting along the lines of a member
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of Congress said, whatever the thing is, and they don't
put their names on it because they're probably not really
supposed to be talking about it. But in this case,
all their names on it. It's very public. They're not
hiding anything. It wasn't really classified or at least heavily classified,
and I'm sure they weren't talking about the very classified stuff. Now,
there were a couple of things that came out of
the hearing that I think are important takeaways. First of all,
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you know, the Washington Post came out with what looks
like some pretty bad reporting a little over a week
ago in which they essentially claimed two things. They claimed
that the United States military struck a couple of guys
who are in the water having survived an attack on
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a boat, for the purpose of killing those guys. So
that's one thing, right they the claim was they struck
just to kill the guys. And then the second claim
was heg Seth gave the order, and it appears that
neither of those things is true. And I want to
be very careful about this. Now, heg Seth did give
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a written order we are attacking these boats, and apparently
in the written order, and they didn't say this to
begin with, but apparently in the written order, there is
some conversation about contingency, what happens if there are people
left alive, and apparently in that written order it says
something along the lines of if they are helpless and
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not trying to get back to doing what they were doing,
not trying to continue on them drug running mission, then
we rescue them. If they are trying to get back
to doing what they were doing, then we strike it again,
because our job is to take out the capabilities of
that boat, and if it happens that the people are
taken out with it, then so be it. But we're
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not really targeting the people. We're targeting that the operation there.
So the admiral now first of all, says that heg
Seth never issued in order to quote unquote kill everybody,
which is what the Washington Post reported. And I don't
think very many people are going to question this admiral.
This guy is a complete badass Navy seal looks like
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a bad ass. You just you're not gonna mess with
this guy. And there's no reason to think he's not
telling the truth. So it looks like he was not
given an order by Hegseth or by anybody else to
just go kill whatever people were there. And it looks
like the order he did did give, he gave. And
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this is where it'll be a little tricky now, he
gave because I guess a couple of guys I don't
know exactly how many, it doesn't really matter, but sounds
like they're talking about too were there. And this is
where you get the difference now between the Republicans and
the Democrats coming out of that meeting. So Tom Cotton,
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who is a conservative Republican senator who served in the Army,
said that he didn't see anything particularly troubling about it.
And he said, and I'm looking I'm just looking here
at the at the hill, he said, and I quote,
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I saw two survivors trying to flip a boat loaded
with drugs bound for the United States back over so
they could stay in the fight and potentially give them
all the context we've heard of other narco terrorist boats
in the area coming to their ai to recover the cargo.
So here's the thing that I don't understand. Is he
saying that drugs were on the boat, because if he's
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saying that he couldn't know because the boat was upside
down and they were trying to flip it. Is he
saying the boats were floating and I'm sorry, the drugs
were floating in the water, and that they were trying
to flip the boat back over and then toss the
drugs in the boat? Not sure? Is he saying that
he knows that they contacted other people in their organization,
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cartel and narco terrorists, whatever you want to call him.
Is he saying that he knows that they were in
this kind of communication and other people were coming or
is he just saying we've heard of that kind of
thing happening.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's really unclear.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Now you have another you have a Democrat member of
the House, Chris Heims from Connecticut, who described it as
one of the most disturbing things he's ever seen in
his time in public service. So, unsurprisingly, you have a
big difference here between how the Republicans are talking about
it and how the Democrats are talking about it, even
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though they all saw the same thing. One Democrat senator
did say he thinks it was a fair description by
Tom Cotton to say, yes, they were trying to flip
the boat back over.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So at this point we still don't know whether what
some might call an illegal order was given. But I
will tell you it is far less clear than it
seemed to be when the Washington Post Full Post first
put out that story, And if anything, I would say
that the original reporting looks much more wrong than right.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I did not know there was a song about Wolf
Creek Pass until we traveled Wolf Creek Pass in my
Voltswagen Jetta last two Thanksgivings.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Ago through a whole snowstorm.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And then we looked it up and we're like trying
to look at our path and where else we needed
to go. And the first thing that popped up was like,
if you need a description of what your drive.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Is on Wolf Creek Pass, that was the song. And
it's a great song. It's very catchy, but.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It talks about just the horrendous drive it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I didn't know about it either until Dragon played it
for me like a month ago, two months ago something
I didn't know about it either, but it's a catchy tune.
It it's definitely a catchy tune.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Dragon.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You wanted me to remind folks about what burgers burgers
burgers Next Wednesday, That would be the tenth of December
at twelve oh one pm, although you're welcome to arrive
at noon. Is that a prime number? Twelve oh one, yes,
twelve oh one is a prime number. You take out
the colon, so just the whole thing, one two zero
one is a prime number. So twelve oh one pm
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you can meet me and Gina and maybe producer Shannon
at Crown Burger on the east side of Colorado Boulevard,
maybe half a mile south of I twenty five, between
I Lift and Evans. You are not We are not
buying your lunch, and you are not buying our lunch.
I might do some thing before then where if somebody
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maybe I'll do like a trivia question before then, and
if somebody gets it right and comes to lunch, I'll
buy their lunch. But just as a matter of you know, protocol,
here you're buying your own lunch and we're buying hours.
Next Wednesday, December tenth, call it noon, you know, if
you have to be like that at Crownburger and we
really really really.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Hope to see you there.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I want to actually take a minute about on a
story you just heard from Gina breaking financial news this
morning that Netflix has won the bidding to buy Warner
Brothers Discovery, and I just want to do a little
bit of finance nerdiness with you for a minute, if
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you don't mind. So, when you have these big mergers,
you always have government review, Federal Trade Commission review, sometimes
Department of Justice review, maybe even FCC review. With this
kind of deal, I'm not sure about that. And what
they're looking for is they want to prevent combinations of
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companies that they think will reduce consumer choice and allow
monopolistic or oligopolistic like behavior and pricing, such as raising prices.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Without offering more services.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right typical, even though it's not a monopoly, still, when
you have fewer and fewer organizations competing in a thing,
you tend to have higher prices. For example, if you
were to think about some airline route that might have
three or four airlines flying that route a Denver to
New York City, that might have some particular price if
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one or two airlines dropped out of that, and then
you only had let's say two airlines flying that route.
The price would probably be higher, not as much higher
as if there were only one, but still higher. So
the government wants to keep an eye on this thing.
And so what I wanted to mention to you is,
especially because the Trump administration is much more aggressive on
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anti trust stuff then you would typically expect of a
Republican administration, they act a little more like Democrats when
it comes to this, So keep that in mind. And
so obviously Netflix is one of the biggest streaming services, right,
Warner Brothers owns HBO Max, and so this would be
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putting those together, and the government may look at that
and say it's anti competitive. Now I think it's nonsense,
because there's Amazon Prime and Paramount and Peacock and Hulu
TV and all this other stuff. It's I don't think
it's anti competitive enough to move the needle. And in fact,
it could even lower the prices because they might offer
a bundle where you could maybe get Netflix and HBO
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Max for less than you would now pay to buy
them separately. But I just want you to keep an
eye on that because they're the government is going to
have a hard look at this, and knowing what the
Trump administration is like in this area, yeah, there's a
decent chance that they will object, and then the question
will be can these two companies overcome those objections by
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doing stuff like saying, all right, well, sell off this
asset or sell off that asset. But I don't think
there's any way they would agree to a deal that
doesn't include Netflix ending up with ownership of HBO Max.
I think if they had to spin that off, I
think it would blow up the whole thing, something like
a Venezuelan drug boat. When we come back, Mayor Mike
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Johnston joins the show. Welcome to Ross on the News
with Gene. I'm Ross. That's Gina Dragon behind the glass,
and we are so happy to have back on the
show for yet another Friday and on time this time Denver.
Mayor Mike Johnston. I know, Mike, you said it was
our fault last time. Anyway, it's really good to have
you back. Thanks thanks for being here, Man, appreciate.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Itvett, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, lots of just kind of smallish topics I wanted
to cover with you today and Gina wants to cover
with you today. One thing I'm kind of interested in,
sort of from my background as a business guy, is
Denver buying the Denver Pavilions. And this isn't so much
a criticism, just like a little skeptical of government getting
involved in real estate deals. But it sounds like the
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eventual plan is not really for Denver to keep owning
this thing and fully develop it themselves and so on.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Yeah, our goal is to hold it and then put
it together and then find a partner to develop it.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The reason why we.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Did buy it was because we could bring together two assets.
If you've been to the Pavilions, we both bought the
pavilions itself. There are also two parking lots behind the pavilions.
Those were owned by different people, and everyone had always
wanted to develop both blocks together, but no one could
ever acquire both of them. We've acquired both of them.
That means you could now put a hotel up behind
the pavilions. You could put an apartment building up behind there,
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and that would really activate all those stores from the
hotel apartment side as well as from the sixteenth Street side.
And we just didn't want to see that site get shuttered.
You know, when they're owned by out of state investors,
they don't necessar really care how your downtown feels. It's
one of one hundred buildings they own, and so we
want to stabilize it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We're going to go.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Out and how people did for ideas on what they
would do for a joint development of those two blocks.
We'll find the best idea and the best partner, and
we'll hand it over to them to turn this into
a great magnet again for the next fifty years of downtown.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Where did the money come from.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
It's the Downtown Development Authority, so the city doesn't directly
own it. It's a tax measure that the residents and
businesses in downtown voted for to capture some of the
tax revenue that we can use to invest in downtown.
So it doesn't not city dollars, it doesn't touch the
general fund. It's not money we could use to hire
an employee. It's the very money that was used to
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develop Union Station fifteen years ago. And Union Station was
so successful it paid the bond back twice as fast
as I needed to, so there were fifteen years of
leftover revenues, and the voters downtown voted to use those
dollars to help support development in the rest of downtown.
So think about how vibrant and great Union Station is
now with you know, retail and stores and businesses, restaurants.
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That's what we want to do now for the pavilions.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, mister Marrow was at the Pavilions earlier this week
seeing Zootopia two.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Great movie, by the way, I'm excited to see that one.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
It's great, honestly highly recommend But yes, a lot of
those businesses do really need some help. You're seeing more
and more just closed businesses around those extra levels of
the pavilions and just need some more energy and more
life into it. Similar to other portions of the Sixteenth
Street mall. When we look at just our overall businesses,
I know we just passed small business Saturday and just
overall shopping holiday season, the busyness of it. Sixteenth Street
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really does have the revitalization that it's looking for. Hopefully
people can go down there and help their businesses. But
what else do we have to do when it comes
to our East Coalfax businesses, because I know they're struggling
similar to what we saw with Sixteenth Street when it
came to just construction and the RTD project that's underway there.
There's some businesses that you can barely find their doors
right now because that construction is all underway.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
On Colfax you got it.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
And it's exactly the same thing we faced on Sixteenth Street,
which is when that was under construction. We really had
to push hard to support those businesses to come through it.
The construction's over and now sixteenth is amazing and it's active.
We have forty to sixty now new businesses that have
opened in downtown this year. That's a great sign of revitalization.
And I've been I'm on Cool Facts, you know, a
couple times a week, as I try to every time
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I'm shopping or going out to eat, or my wife
I going out for date night. We try to do
it on Cool Fact. So I'd really encourage people to
shop and support those great stores is they're they're excited.
They know this new bus rapid transit will eventually provide
a lot more customers to them, But we got to
make it through the construction window. And so this holiday season,
I really encourage folks to go to cool Fax, whether
it's the shop to eat, to go to your favorite bar.
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We had loved those long term locally owned businesses there,
but we got to keep them going when this construction completes.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Mister Mayor.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Also for those heading downtown this weekend, a lot of
people usually come from outside of the city for the
Parade of Lights. It's an awesome event every year, highly recommend.
But when it comes to just the overall congestion that
we see around the sad city, what's the safety and
security measures that you consider and keep in place when
it comes to Parade of Lights, but just any holiday
and busy events around the city.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
Yeah, we are really excited for the Parade Lights. I'll
be there tomorrow night and encourage everybody to come. We
also have the Chris Kremdal Market on a area campus.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We have drone shows every night.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
It's a fantastic holiday time to be downtown, so encourage
everyone to come. We have ramped up safety dramatically on downtown.
I actually love this stat. You know, you've probably seen
the Joker stats everywhere where. You know he is the
first player to lead the league from the decade and
both assists, rebounds, points and steals. We were looking at
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our crime data for the first time in Denver ever,
we're more than fifty percent reduction year over year in homicide,
more than fifty percent reduction in auto theft, more than
forty percent reduction in robberies, all of the same time,
all at the same year. So the city is getting
so much safer.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And we've created our.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Own dedicated downtown police unit just to downtown. So when
you're downtown you'll see lots of friendly officers. Feel free
to say hi. They're delighted to see you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Let me follow up on this. I was going to
do something else, but.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What are you seeing in terms of any data so
far in whether the new sixteenth Street I guess you
don't call it them all anymore?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
And the new sixteenth Street is there?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Is there retail traction there, you know, and to the
extent that that Denver has had a budget problem because
of flat sales tax revenue. Are you seeing stuff perking
up on sixteenth Street? And maybe related, are you seeing
any perking up in office occupancy around there?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Because those two things may be related. You got it.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
Those are exactly the metrics we're tracking. So the great
news is yeah, we are. So we do track foot traffic.
We're down to almost ninety three percent of the foot
traffic we had before COVID on sixteenth So that's where
I mean, that's the that's the gold center for city
that's going to get back to pre COVID downtown activation.
That's a great sign. And in terms of commercial leasing,
you're right. We now have had you know, three times
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more leasing requests on sixteenth Street for people who want
to occupy a new space is three times more requests
in the last three months than we had in the
last three years combined. So we're both seeing and then
when you talk to businesses down there, some of them
will tell me they're up thirty percent, they're up to
fifty percent, somewhere up one hundred percent. So they are
seeing more foot traffic, which is driving more revenue, which
will drive more sales tax And we think it's all
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heading in the great direction. But we just got to
keep more and more folks coming back. But I love
about brading life. Do you know, Folks who might not
have been downtown in a while come down, and I
think what they'll see is a very different Denver than
they've seen before.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And so the more we.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Get people to come back downtown and see it, the
more they say, Wow, this place looks great.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I'd love to spend more time here.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Michael got about just over a minute left here. I
think maybe two times ago when you visited us, we
talked about what the Denver Summit Football Club people making
some noises about looking for a stadium somewhere else, and
you said, over my dead body, and you and we
had we had talked about how this is really kind
of an urgent thing because shockingly they need a stadium
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built like in less than three years. I mean it's
taken me two years and I don't even have my
home remodel done. So what's the latest on that.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
Yeah, you know, we are working hard. It'll be up
for a vote the fifteenth, which will be a week
from monday. We've been talking to all the council members
trying to answer all their questions. Talked to the commissioner
of the league this year, told me we're all in
this week and told her that we're all in to
move forward. Have been staying in touch with the ownership Grove.
We're really optimistic this is going to get moving. We
know people had questions. We think we've answered those. We
know everyone wants to see this happen. I mean, one
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exciting thing is you may know, you know, the opening
game for this team somewhat is going.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
To be held at Mile High.
Speaker 9 (46:29):
Actually, we've already sold almost thirty thousand seats for that game.
The commissioner says she thinks we're on path to sell
more than forty five thousand tickets. That would make it
the largest women's soccer sporting event in league history ever
in America for the first game in Denver. So there
is so much excitement about this team and about this
league that I know that we're going to get this
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done and we'll figure out how to get all the
problems and questions answered to get there. But I think
were very optimistic. We're going to be in good shape
to get this done and get the shovels in the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Denver me Er, Mike Johnson, thanks for your time as all.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
All right, you two, you too? All right, that's the mayor.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Still, there's plenty of other stuff going on in Denvers.
You know, we just talked about one thing the city
council has to vote on. But lots of financial stuff
in a in a city that has their their own
money issues, right, Gina.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
The text line I was just going through there was
a texture that spelled all of our names with the J.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
H huh.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I love that we've got that going. It's g J.
Why not with the J and why not dragon with
a J?
Speaker 4 (47:30):
There are you removing the R and the D when
you're adding the J? Or are they just putting a
J dragon? Clearly you would keep the R right, it
would be j R wagon. It wouldn't be I thought
it was gonna be jagging right, so I would definitely
still keep the R.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
There.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
There is some dude who keeps texting j oss instead
of R O S S. You could do J R
O S S anyway through points. Yeah, I don't know
which is a different word. That's not a very good word.
He's out the silent three all the time. You know what.
A listener emailed me and said, hi, Ross, and they
spelled it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
RO three SS with the with the silent three.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Gina does start with a J, just so you know, uh,
listener text high GENA. I believe white light is made
of all the colors, so maybe it's the best color.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Black is the absence of color, So yeah, it's an
interesting thing in light.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
For sure, white is all the colors, but if you
take your Crayola crayons and you color all the colors together,
it'll come out something like black, not like white at all.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
So that's that's uh, I just feel it.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Some years they have really really fun colors like Peach Fuzz,
Mocha Moose, which is really just like a brown Viva magenta.
We went with Cloud Dancer, but it's literally just white.
Cool name, but not really a color.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
And for those who don't know what we're talking about
here at the during the news there, Gina was talking
about the.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Pantone uh, Pantone color of the Year.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
For folks listening on the podcast and wondering why we're
talking about this right now. So during the during the
news broadcast, Pantone announced what was it called Scott something,
cloud Dance, clowd Dance, Cloud Dancer.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
No idea how they decide this.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I don't know if you're supposed to incorporate this on
your walls and your home, on your furniture.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
I assume it's it's on your walls like a paint color.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
But I don't know how they decide on these every year,
but yeah, for some reason, last year we were like
a brown.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
This year we're white.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
So I feel like we're getting some pretty okay ugly colors.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, let me let me ask
both of you a question. And so I'm not really
kind of the page six National Inquirer People magazine kind
of guy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Uh, but I saw this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I saw this article because and it just all right,
here's the headline firm page six dot com, which I
think is New York Post maybe.
Speaker 10 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Travis Kelson he insists he and Taylor Swift never argue
as he gets marriage advice from George Cliney. I'm not
much of a George Cliney fan, but anyway, that's.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Not the point here.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
The Kansas City Chiefs player thirty six years old asked
the actor sixty four years old whether he stood by
his statement that he and his wife Amal had not
gotten in a fight in ten years, and Travis Kelsey
says he's never had an argument with Taylor Swift, And
at first I was about to throw the BS flag,
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but then when I hear the reasoning, I kind of
buy it because both of these guys said. Essentially, I'm paraphrasing,
but both of these guys basically said, if I get
in an argument, I'm gonna lose, so why bother getting
in the argument? And also I think I think George
Cliney said she's smarter than I am anyway, so why argue?
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So I'm gonna start with producer dragon, when's the last
time you had an argument with your wife?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
And what you and what was it about? And do
you argue much or hardly ever, hardly ever argue? So
I rely couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, it's smart of a guy to just yes, dear right,
and especially since she's worth a lot more than he
is good and he makes his own money, and he
makes a lot of his own money, but you don't
want to argue with the moneymaker.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
That's true. My answer, I'll say is is kind of
similar to dragons. Christ and I don't argue very much.
There's been some during this home remodel, like she thinks
one thing and I think another, But I almost always
lose or give up or something. But partly because I
just don't want to stay in the fight, and partly
because she's better at it than I am. And she's
better at knowing what the house is gonna look like.
(51:38):
But Gina, what about you? Uh, just this morning?
Speaker 4 (51:41):
No, just kidding, honestly, can I say that I almost
feel the same way as Travis Kelsey and I can't
recall an ever because I'm talking screaming match, not talking
to each other at least raising your voices.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Or having that never.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
But the opposite of his argument of I think it's
because we talk through everything before it.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
Escalates into something like that. He kind of agreed that.
He was like, I just don't start the argument because
I know she'll win.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yeah, we're usually like, Okay, this is something that we need.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
To talk about, now, let's talk about it. So I
almost want to say never.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And you've been with your husband for a long time,
mean married recently, but you've been with them for a
long long time, about a decade.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, yeah, so wow, that's half your life.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Just keep the illusion going, all right, all right, we're
gonna do a cool thing in the next segment of
the show. We're gonna We're gonna talk with Aaron Bird
from the Denver Botanic Gardens about blossoms of light, trail
of lights.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Really cool things here.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
In Denver, and and we're gonna give away some.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Tickets for both of.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Those things, by the way, just a little inside baseball thing.
I normally make it a requirement if somebody wants to
be on the show to promote an event, I normally
say to them, I'm happy to have you.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Well we need free tickets for a listening.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
And I don't say I need free tickets for me
or free tickets for Gina or Dragon or whatever I mean,
but I always say, you know, if you want to
be on the show, there's got to be something more
and if we're listeners, So we're gonna have some tickets
to give away right after this.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Very pleased to.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Welcome to the show Eron Bird, who is director of
marketing for the Denver Botanic Gardens, to just tell us
a little bit about what's going on with these fabulous Well,
it's almost a light show, you might call it that,
at both the Denver location of the Denver Botannic Gardens
and the Chatfield location as well. Good morning, Aaron, Good morning,
So tell us what do we need to know?
Speaker 11 (53:33):
Sure, so we have two light events, as you said,
one in our York Street location, which is Blossoms of
Light And this is the fortieth anniversary of this event
started in nineteen eighty five and it has grown tremendously
over the years. And I know I'm biased, but I
will say I think this is the best year yet.
It looks incredible and it runs through January eleventh, and
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there are a handful of sold up dates, including this
weekend until Sunday. So do you require that you get
your tickets in advance, especially now as tickets are starting
to sell out, You're going to want to do that.
And then at Trail of Lights at our Chatfield Farm's location,
this is a beautiful light event that wanders through the
(54:16):
historic farm the wooded trails and it's about a mile
long path and so it's a really immersive, cool experience
if you're looking for something just south of Denver, if
you don't want to head into the city. And it
runs the same dates as well through January eleventh. Both
events are closed on Christmas Night and that has more
(54:37):
ticket availability, but still tickets are required in advance.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
Aaron Blossom of Loot Blossoms of Lights is a hot
commodity ticket every year. This was the first year I
was able to go to Trail of Lights, which is awesome.
Great for those who haven't seen it, you can go
to Koa's Instagram page you can see a full rundown
and walk through of it too. But Erin, I'm just
curious about the production value of how much work has
to art even if you guys know how many lights
are involved in the creation of both of these, because
(55:03):
they're both unique and different ways you can go to
both and you're going to have a different experience.
Speaker 11 (55:07):
Oh, totally yes, And both of them are major labors
of love for our staff. And then we also have
outside support for streaming the trees and for Blossoms of Light,
we have way more. They're actually doing the official account
this week, so I don't have that number yet, but
it's way over a million lights, and they start installing
(55:28):
the lights right after labor Day all the way two
we open, and the planning for it will start immediately
after it closes this year, So it really is the
biggest event that our team produces, and it does require
all year planning. And then at Trail of Lights, it's
pretty similar. I don't know how many lights they have there.
I know it's a little less, but it's again kind
(55:50):
of around the clock planning and installing as soon as
we hit the fall time.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
So where can and should folks go to get tickets.
Speaker 11 (55:58):
Botanic Gardens or you can call a visitor center or
for just tickets in person ahead of time, not the
night of.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. Aaron
Bird is director of Marketing for the Denver Botanic Gardens.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Thanks for your time, Erin.
Speaker 11 (56:16):
You're welcome, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Glad too, Glad too.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
All right, So, as I mentioned to you earlier, when
I have folks on like that, who are you, you know,
pitching something that they want people to come to. Even
if I think it's already awesome as a standalone and
it's good for you to know about it, I like
to make sure.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
They do something for listeners.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
And in this case, I asked Aaron if she had
some tickets we could give away.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Dragon.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
We're gonna do this as two separate giveaways so we
don't confuse, Okay, So the first thing we're gonna do
is give away a pair of tickets to the Blossoms
of Light. This is the one at the York Street
location in Denver. The main Denver location of the Denver
Botanic Gardens. So, Dragon, Texter number one at what time?
(57:01):
Four at it was not prime?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Good? Eight eleven and seventeen seconds.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Okay, text number four at eight eleven and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Seconds at five six, six.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Nine zero, And you need to include your name, your
email address, and just any indication that you're trying to
win the tickets. You can write tickets, you can write gardens,
you can write lights, you can write anything but your name,
your email address, and any indication. Text number four at
eight eleven and seventeen seconds will win a pair of
tickets to Blossoms of Light. And then we're gonna give
(57:32):
away some more tickets after that. So in the meantime,
in the meantime while we work out this this giveaway,
I wanted to do just something very different with you.
Lighten it up a little bit briefly, and Dragon, how
much do you know about Elvis Presley?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Would you say?
Speaker 1 (57:49):
You know a little, a lot, almost nothing, played on
the guitar and had dark hair, right.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Gina, do you know more than more than that about
Elvis Presley?
Speaker 1 (57:58):
He passed, they called it, and they called him the king,
all right, So I don't know much more than you, guys,
But I did find some some info about him that
actually thought was was kind of interesting. So let me
just share a couple of things with you for fun,
and I'll ask you a question or two as well.
So here's just an interesting data point. So, Elvis Presley
(58:19):
did what three three three concerts in Canada in nineteen
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Are you listening, dragon, what are you eating? What is
from oatmeal? Oatmeal? The maple pancake flavor oatmeal?
Speaker 5 (58:35):
That sounds awesome.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
So in nineteen fifty seven, Elvis did three concerts in Canada.
Those were the only concerts he ever did outside the
United States of America, and the incredibly never never went
to Europe all that time.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Never went, never went. The manager wou never wanted him
to leave, so apparently that was one thing.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
And there was also a there was also a rumor
that he was afraid of flying, although he did do
a concert in Hawaii, but that was in nineteen seventy
three and he was probably on all kinds of drugs
for that. Now, Dragon, you said that he had dark hair,
did you know that Elvis's actual hair color was blonde
(59:16):
and that he colored his hair from the time he
was very young with with I think shoe polish. When
he was young, it was shoe polish. When he was
old and rich, he was probably hair dye. But he
colored his hair his entire life. How about this one?
I got one more? I got one more for you here,
I'm gonna ask Gina this one. So Elvis recorded over
six hundred songs in his in his career. Out of
(59:40):
the six hundred, how many did he write himself?
Speaker 5 (59:44):
Write him?
Speaker 2 (59:45):
How many? How many of the songs did he write
I have.
Speaker 5 (59:48):
A feeling it's gonna be very low. I'm gonna go low.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Mug be the exact topsicle. It's very high.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Okay, So each pick a number? Ten Okay? You said
six hundred, Yeah, six hundre five hundred. Okay, Gena's closer
you said ten. Yeah, So you're off by ten. You
don't write anything any of his own songs?
Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Is that crazy? Wow? Is crazy?
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
After all that, apparently he never learned Not only did
he never learn how to write music, you never learned
how to read music. Although he is listed as a
co writer on tracks, because the label insisted that the
people who were actually writing the songs give him credits
so we could earn more of the money and basically
(01:00:32):
give him fifty percent of the whatever the songwriting money
would be.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Then a pretty crazy song. And then so anyway, all right,
that's all I'm gonna do for you in the Elvis stuff.
I thought that was fun.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Now all right, let me do some other tickets and dragon.
By the way, I'm going to email these people directly
on how to claim their tickets. All right, So we've
got those coming in. So now here's here's what I'm
gonna do with this one. We'll do what we're gonna
do here is we're gonna give away either two or four.
You can choose two tickets or four tickets, but you'll
(01:01:05):
have to let us know in the text to the
Trail of Lights Denver Botanic Gardens Spectacular Lights Show. That's
at Chatfield Farms. Okay, so that's not the Central Denver one,
it's the Chatfield one, the Trail of Lights. So we'll
take texter number three, which is a prime number at
eight seventeen and seventeen seconds, eight seventeen and seventeen seconds,
(01:01:31):
Texter number three, and we need your name, your email address,
and whether you want two tickets or four tickets. Okay,
so there's that, and I think, yeah, I think that's good.
We've got still a ton of stuff to do, even
though it feels like we only got a few minutes
left together. A lot of the news in the past
(01:01:54):
few days has been about the first strike on one
of these drug boats. But the strikes on these drug
boats don't seem to be stopping, right, Gina, Folks, don't forget.
We are your home, your broadcast home for the Denver Broncos,
and on Monday, we are going to give away multiple
(01:02:14):
pairs of tickets for the Broncos Packers game.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I'll be on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Doing the microphone for that game, so maybe I'll see
you there. But we're going to be giving away those
tickets on Monday. We do have the Broncos Raiders game
coming up, of course, this weekend in Las Vegas, and
as always on a Friday, Gina is here to tell.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Us what other cool things are going on in Denver.
Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
This weekend holiday parade is free to attend and features
helium filled balloons, marching bands, horses, and of course, in
appearance from Santa Claus and Rudolph. The Colorado Holiday tradition
dates back to nineteen seventy five and has grown into
the largest and most watched parade in the Rocky Mountain region.
The parade steps off at six Saturday night, but you'll
want to get there early to stake out your spot.
Speaker 13 (01:02:58):
You can take to the ice yourself well that McGregor
Square Plaza. Bring your own skates or rent them at
the skating rink. The rink is open from Friday till
Sunday until January fifth, with skating costing just six dollars.
Kids under age two and seniors sixty five and older
skate free. Worried about the cold, an outside bar will
(01:03:20):
be available, serving hot chocolate and more.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
That's Kaoa's Mindy Stone.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
If you're looking for a way to shake up your
holiday tradition, Koy's Brenda Stewart has a suggestion.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
The long running.
Speaker 10 (01:03:30):
Sketch comedy Santa's Big Red Sack returns to the People's
Building on East Colfax and Aurora. Since it's debut in
two thousand and two, Santa's Big Red Sack has been
the ultimate antidote to Holiday's sweetness. It's a fast paced
comedy packed with original sketches twisted carols and a heaping
dose of subversive cheer.
Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
This is the final year for the legendary show and
it runs through December twenty fourth.
Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
A winter wonderland awaits you at the Denver Chris Kindlemarket.
It's located at the Tip Quad on the A Area Campus.
This year, the German style holiday market hosts both local
and European gifts, crafts and food vendors and entertainers. The
Chris Kendle Market runs from eleven to nine o'clock today
through Sundays and opens at one o'clock weekday afternoons. Plenty
of holiday light displays to enjoy throughout the season. Details
(01:04:18):
from our lead Christmas Lights reporter, Chad Bauer.
Speaker 14 (01:04:20):
Denver Botannic Gardens has its Blossoms of Light at the
York Street Gardens through Sunday, January eleventh, and their Chatfield
Farms location features Trail of Lights.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Denvers, Vegas Drive Through.
Speaker 14 (01:04:31):
Christmas light displays are back for the holiday season. Christmas
and Color has two locations at water World and at
Red Rocks Park, and there's the Zoo Lights at the
Denver Zoo Conservation Alliance on select nights through January fourth.
Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
In Sports, here's Koays, Keen and Dixon.
Speaker 15 (01:04:47):
It's CU versus CSU and men's college basketball tomorrow afternoon.
Our KOA coverage of that game begins at two point thirty.
DU's hockey team hosts the University of Miami, Ohio at
Magnus Arena tonight. The puck drops at seven o'clock and
the Broncos are on the road taking all the Raiders.
On Sunday, our coverage begins at eight am with Broncos
warm up and kick off at two o five.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Right here on KOA.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And in concert news, here's KNA bender.
Speaker 16 (01:05:12):
Our sister's station, k TCL has there Not So Silent
Night at the Mission Ballroom on Sunday Night featuring.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Bob Moses and wet Lake.
Speaker 16 (01:05:19):
The Metal and Beer Festival It's at the Film More
now through Saturday. And don't forget kbco's studio See Volume
thirty seven CD goes on sale at seven o'clock tomorrow
morning at select King Sooper's locations around Colorado.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
And we're ass I'm literally holding Studio CE Volume thirty
seven in my hands as we speak on one D.
Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
There's one right there for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Oh there's not one?
Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Is that other one over there for me, Yeah, I
ken be.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Brett Saunders joined me on Colorado's Morning News talking a
little bit more about it in the list of what
they have, and it's so funny because he talks about
every year there's people that show up and they're like,
you got volume nine because they like have the entire
collection except one always just missing one CD.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It's amazing what an institution that is.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Oh, it's so cool that it's a lineup.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah, C the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
It's the coolest thing. And and Gin have you been
to Studio C.
Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
I haven't seen an artist yet.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I've always seen one for people who you know,
know you know of Studio C. It's actually a room
or a couple of rooms or three. Really there's there's
the control room, the main room where the actual studio
where the musicians play, and their room with a big
glass window where you can watch and listen.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
And and these bands actually come in.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
And we've got all this professional set up here and
they and they play songs. So it really is a
studio here in the building. It's a pretty neat thing like.
Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Lumineers, Mountjoy Head in the Hearts, Molly Tuttle Counting Crows,
lightly Stupid Goose like it is a We're talking big
bands come in to do these intimate performancess for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I mean, kb c O is a it's a legendary
rock station, you know, like KOA is a legendary talk station.
So it's pretty it's pretty cool to be in the
same building with all those guys. Kristin and I went
to see Mountjoy at Fiddler's like two months ago.
Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
He'll be at Bonnaroo next year, and I love did
you say he?
Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
So you think of it as like the main guy.
When you think of the band, you think of the
main guy.
Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I do think of the main guy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Should I be saying no? No, I don't care. I
think that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Actually, there's a whole thing there, like how many bands
when you hear about him, do you think of a
person in the band, even if the band name isn't
the person's day, even it's not Bruce Springsteen?
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Right, good point?
Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry everyone else in Mountjoy, but.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
All right, that's awesome. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I had I had asked a friend of mine, knowing
he was going to be in town to come join
us in studio, and he didn't say whether he was
coming or not.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And he's here.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
And I don't know if you ever watched The gut
Feld Show, but Jamie Lisso is an incredibly funny comedian.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
He's on The Gutfeld.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Show every week and just to a super guy, really
funny as well. And he's going to join us in
studio for like an eight minute conversation or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
And again, if you're a fan of.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Gutfeld and of Lysso and you had a question for him,
just text it in at five six, six, nine zero
and maybe I can get Jamie Lisso to answer your question.
Keep it here on KOA. We've got your news, weather
and traffic right now. First time I had Jamie Lisso
in studio, I'm like, this guy's funny seeing them on TV,
and we kind of become friends and said hey a
(01:08:31):
little bit, went to a hockey game and so on,
and then I went to New York and actually saw
you do the gut Feled Show, which pretty cool to
see that actually actually happening. And Jamie is playing at
Comedy Works South at the Landmark tonight at very civilized times,
I should say six thirty and eight thirty pm tonight
and five thirty and eight pm on Saturday night.
Speaker 17 (01:08:51):
Dude, it's a better life, right, it's a it's a
better life. This idea to do earlier shows came from.
It was Naples, Florida people because of old people, so
many old people. Yeah, and it's it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 18 (01:09:04):
Man.
Speaker 17 (01:09:05):
They do they we'd had a four pm show. Really,
we had a midnight show at seven. It doesn't even
it doesn't even make sense. Did you sell out the
four pm show? We sold out the four pm show? Wow,
the sun was out.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Do people still enjoy themselves and maybe have a couple
of drinks?
Speaker 17 (01:09:22):
My crowd is more of a social We have very
few people that are like completely blacked out, which is
also a wonderful thing about the earlier times. Yeah, you
kind of come out, you have a few drinks, you
can still understand what's happening up there. And then they
go out later and get hammered. Or maybe there's a
late show at the club and it's one of those
TikTok a holes.
Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
But I don't have to be there, you know. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Oh that's let me throw one or two listener questions
at you got some listener questions coming in.
Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Uh, Hi, Jamie, I'm a nightly gut felt watch. I
always love it when you're on the show. Tell me
a little bit about what Cat.
Speaker 9 (01:09:57):
Is really like.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Oh, that's a that's a great question. Cat is awesome.
We text every day being Cat Cat.
Speaker 17 (01:10:04):
If anybody missed it, had the day she was having
her baby, she found out she had cancer in the
way when they were and she's been People always ask
me like, how she's doing. Yeah, just was texting with her.
She's completely cancer free, super excited. And if you know Kat,
and you're watcher of gttfeld, you know that happened six
months ago. She's already written seven books about it. So
she'll be promoting on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
But she's a great She's a great girl. Yeah, and
I love her libertarian this, which which you know she
sticks to it. She sticks to her beliefs. Did she
still have a French bulldog?
Speaker 9 (01:10:34):
She so?
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Greg has a French bulldog and Cat you have? Cat
has a cat? Really? Cat has a cat Jeeves. I
believe it's called Jeeves. Uh huh. So I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Because you and I talk in between when you're here
in the studio, so I sort of maybe missed some things.
But I'm thinking last time you were here was maybe
just before you got married. I think, I think so,
I think you were gonna go get married just after that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
So are you still Are you still married? I'm still married? Yeah?
How is it? Let me just check my phone. Yep,
and it's feeling really good.
Speaker 17 (01:11:07):
You want to hear an incredibly embarrassing story for my
wedding day, a never century stor We got married in Vegas.
Bergmann was there, and we Bergman is my opening act
this week, Welcome to KOI Studio. He was the wedding
and we go, you know, Vegas is like Denver where
weed is legal, and we're not like huge weed people.
But I go, we should try. Would it be fun? Erica,
this is our wedding day, we just got married. I
would be fun to get like some edibles at this dispensary.
(01:11:29):
She goes, oh, i'd be fun. So I went in
and I go to the guy. I go, hey, I go,
could you just like the mildest thing you guys have?
And I go, we are not weed smoker people. And
then I goes, yeah, I gathered that from your use
of the term weed smoker people.
Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
And so he gives us these things.
Speaker 17 (01:11:43):
And I don't know if if we're just lightweights or
he didn't listen, but we're late. We took these little
edibles we were feeling. And we're laying in bed on
our wedding night and Eric Leane's over and she goes, hey, Jamie, I.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Got some bad news.
Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
And I go what, And she goes, I think that
I'm too high to have sex, right to which I
responded ross I said, I used to even worst news.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
As she goes, what, and I go, we just had sex.
Speaker 17 (01:12:06):
We just I'm not saying I'm like the best at it,
but oftentimes they remember for at least a few minutes.
Sometimes you have to write Joe. Sometimes your wife just
gives you one for free. Free joke.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
That is one of the great stories of all time.
As I was insulted, I couldn't wait to do it
on stage.
Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
She didn't actually give you the lowest dose or was
he like, eh, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Get that's the question.
Speaker 17 (01:12:32):
It said it was five milligrams, okay, but that then
that's supposed to already don't.
Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Know if that's a little or a lot. I had
no idea it fell. You know, is that a lot
for me? Yeah?
Speaker 17 (01:12:42):
Yeah, it was that. You know, there's different strains. It
was a strain that made people forget something awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Matt.
Speaker 18 (01:12:52):
I want to I want to bring you into this
real quick because I think you and Ross should very
much chat because as soon as I search your name,
Matt Bergman could be and the first thing that comes
up is maybe Jewish.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
So funny. I was terrified by the way. I didn't
know where that was gonna go. Yeah, it makes me
worse things because.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Remember, remember on the tribe, not member of the tribe.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
We don't know. We actually don't don't know. Yeah, do
you know? Yeah, I'm one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I mean my twenty three and me came back ninety
nine point nine PERCENTAZI and.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So yeah. I have a buddy back in Buffley's Jewish.
Speaker 19 (01:13:26):
Every time I see him, he tells me about the
twenty He's like, do twenty three and me, I'm like,
I'm I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I'm gonna pay for that. He's like, there's your answer.
Speaker 19 (01:13:31):
I go, okay, that's I don't like that as a
maybe member of the tribe, and I think let's come
from the home team. So I'm not sure how I
feel about that. It's pretty awesome, mel is a member
of the tribes. Jamie, probably not, I am not. We
should sometime when I'm here, Yeah, I should bring Boerbon.
We should do it twenty three and me on the air,
and we should you here, we should completely your joke.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Oh that we should do that next time, right, so here,
what you do is you you spit in the tube
at some point you get the results, but don't open them.
Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Come here and we'll open it on the air.
Speaker 17 (01:14:03):
Wouldn't that be great to ruin your only joke about
this topic?
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That would be really something, Jamie is Jamie Lisso is
playing to night Matt Bergman opening coming in from Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
You're living in.
Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Buffalo now or you're from Buffalo Ridge from Buffalo, okay, DC, Yeah,
you told me you live on the on the south side.
So tonight at six pm and eight thirty pm. Tomorrow night,
five thirty pm and eight pm at comedy works out
that the Landmark got about ninety seconds left, Jamie, So
let's see if you can find a way and I
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know you can.
Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I have deep faith in you to make fun of
the fact.
Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
That your lovely bride can barely get out of bed
because her back hurts so much.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
That's true. Maybe she had section she forgot, Maybe that's
what happened. Yeah, it's so good that her back hurts.
Is what's funny too, because she's a she's a doctor.
Speaker 17 (01:14:54):
What's funny is when when you want to have like sympathy,
right like, somebody goes on my back hurts. You normally
would say, hey, you should take this or do this,
but she's the doctor person, and so I just go,
You've you figured it out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Like he went to school for this right? Back is
the worst man, I feel like you.
Speaker 17 (01:15:11):
A way to tell you're getting older is when somebody
goes like like I like, you go, how did you
hurt yourself? When you're young, it's always a story like, oh,
how did you hurt yourself? Like, Oh, I was on
the skateboard ramp, I was doing this trick, you know,
I I slept with two girls.
Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
And then she When you get older, you don't have
a story.
Speaker 17 (01:15:26):
That's how you know you're getting older, because you know,
how did you hear your back and she goes, I
think I was just living my life. You know, I tried.
I think she heard it by hitting snooze on the alarm.
This is not even a joke, like that's not old.
She's not old at all. No, yeah, but she uh
it sucks man back. That kind of affects everything. It's
the worst.
Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I'll give you the name on my back doctor, but
make sure she knows that we tried to make fun
of her.
Speaker 17 (01:15:50):
I will another way getting older, because if you have
a doctor for every part of your body.
Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
You know that, she said, back when you're young, you
have one doctor doctor.
Speaker 17 (01:15:58):
Remember I went to my primary care physician once when
they started this transition e for me and I go, yeah,
my back's hurting, and he goes, oh, I got a
back guy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Amazing, Yeah, I said yeah, and he goes, what else
is wrong? On my foot?
Speaker 20 (01:16:08):
Herts?
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
He goes, oh, I got a foot guy. And I go, okay,
it's trying, and I go, can I ask you a question?
He goes, You go to go, what do you do?
What am I doing here? Yeah? Just sending me to the
other doctors. I think I could be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
In fact, I just got a text like three minutes ago,
can you please tell me the name of your voice doctor?
Because I had a doctor. Who did I have a
voice doctor. Yeah, it's all, it's all true. But with
your wife, what's interesting is her specialty is the one
thing that definitely doesn't apply to you.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
That's correct, that's correct. She specialized in success. I'm just go, Yeah,
she's a she's a female.
Speaker 17 (01:16:42):
I wish I think I like that better ross as
a man, who you know, I have tendencies towards jealousy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I don't I don't need a urologist, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
You're looking around like, oh, I could have had that one,
you know, you know, like when do you get an iPhone?
You see a nicer one, a bigger one, you know,
I don't even know they came in black, and you
just yeah, I prefer this.
Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Jamie Lisso and Matt Bern tonight and Comedy Works out
at the Landmark six pm and eight thirty pm Tomorrow
five thirty and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I haven't checked which which shows are sold out.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
The clock is sold out, which must mean Denver residents
prefer the later shows.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
The other ones probably will too. Comedyworks dot Com for
your tickets. You'll laugh your head or some other part
of your body off, and then when you do, maybe
maybe Jamie's wife will help you fix it. Thanks so
much for coming in for really good to see you again, Ross,
really good to see you. Good to be shamads. All right,
break the leg. We'll be right back on KOA. So
just real quick, if you would like to see Jamie
(01:17:44):
Lisso at Comedy Work South at the Landmark tonight at
eight thirty pm, we will take the first texture right
now at five six six nine zero Dragon, the first
texture right now at five six six nine zero for
a pair of tickets for Jamie Lisso at Comedy Works
(01:18:07):
South at the Landmark. Don't worry if they don't put
that other information in, just go and get it from them,
because I want to get get going here. So we
just have a few minutes. Let me go right to
Ryan Edwards, co host of KOA Sports. Here on KOA
and Ryan, let's just preview the Raiders Broncos game a
little bit. We always want to beat the Raiders. We
(01:18:27):
hate the Raiders almost irrationally. So but if we're going
to be rational about this game, what do we need
to know?
Speaker 20 (01:18:34):
Well, we need to know that. Yeah, the Raiders are
struggling there to and ten. They've been eliminated from the playoffs,
so they are playing for nothing at this point other
than pride and maybe to be spoiler for the Broncos.
I Meanwhile, the Broncos are are getting relatively healthy. A
couple of injuries popped up yesterday that they're going to
want to monitor Zach Allens and practice. Pat Bryant got
a limited practice because of a hamstring, and DJ Jones
(01:18:57):
is still not practicing. So now the Broncos have a
few kind of nicks here, but this is a game
that they really should win, and they probably should win handling.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
It might be just the kind of thing that sticks
in your memory when it happens, and so maybe it
doesn't happen as often as I think, but I have
this sort of sensation that sometimes these spoiler teams that
are playing for nothing except pride tend to play better
than you would expect and end up actually spoiling.
Speaker 20 (01:19:25):
Yea certainly and as Division Game two. Right, So the
Raiders were more or less playing for nothing a few
weeks ago when they played Thursday Night, and it was
a ten to seven game, and the Raiders play tough.
They are going to show up and they're going to
get the Broncos more or less all they can handle.
It's just more at this point a bit of a
talent gap between the two teams. Plus I think the
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Broncos coaching staff is going to hold that ten point
performance at home against the bad Raiders team on this team,
they're going to kind of hold that over these guys,
So I imagine they're going to come out with a
lot more focus in this one.
Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
It seems to me that an area that the Broncos
still really need to improve in is the running game,
especially with JK. Dobbins being out. Now, do you see
people who are currently on the Broncos that you think
could really kind of help them get the running game
to at least closer to where it needs to be.
Speaker 20 (01:20:18):
Well, they really.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Believe in R. J.
Speaker 20 (01:20:19):
Harvey, the rookie they took in the second round, and
I mean, of course this point that there's not really
much that you can say otherwise to say that you
shouldn't try at least continue to try to get him
more involved. Sean Payton said last week, he we drafted
this guy to be a runner. Not just a receiver
out of the backfield, but right so far we've seen
mostly out of the backfield his work, So I do
think that their expectation is to get him more involved
(01:20:41):
in the running game going forward. And then once again,
Jalil McLoughlin is the guy that is handled last even
last year over one hundred kerry. So they think that
they are fine and there right now, but they.
Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Continue to look okay, So what's your prediction.
Speaker 20 (01:20:55):
Well, I think the Broncos are going to win this thing.
I mean at this point, like I said, there's there's
a lot more to play for for the Broncos, and
in fact that they win this game than they own
the tiebreaker if it comes down to it on common
opponents versus the Patriots for the one seed. So there's
a lot of motivation here for the Broncos. I like
the Broncos to win this thing. In the neighborhood of
like twenty seven to maybe seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Ryan Edwards co host KOA Sports here weekdays three pm
to six pm. Have fun with your whole broadcast day
on Sunday. Ryan, We'll talk with you soon.
Speaker 20 (01:21:27):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Thank Okay, all right, well that's it for today. Thank
you Gina, thank you Dragon, Michael Brown. Next, have a
wonderful weekend. Go Broncos.
Somehow Gina and I are not wearing our Broncos gear
and dragon.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You were a little displeased with me.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I figure that's just because you are that confident, because
it's it's the races right now.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You don't want to look past anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You know what happens and you start looking past and
looking to the next game. But I but we all
wore our Broncos stuff earlier this week already, which maybe
why neither Gina nor Ies wear That's the thing.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I usually try to do it after wins, but I
guess do I have to wear it before? And I
don't have enough Broncos stuff to be wearing it every
Monday and every Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well maybe we need to fix that. Maybe I do too,
I mean I have enough, but it would be the same.
I've got two things basically, so i'd be you know,
all right.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
And I just want to verify that you've already set
your schedule so that you will be listening at some point.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
At some point broadcast at some point game. I'm what
I might.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Tend to know when Ross Kaminski listens to the KO
broadcast with Rick, Dave and Susie.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So what I might actually do I've been telling listeners
about this, but I might do it too, And because
I did this couple of weeks ago, at.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Two pm on Sunday, you can meet up.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Up with Ben Albright and Nick Ferguson, the co hosts
of of Broncos Country tonight at burn Down, Denver, which
is on the east side of Broadway Down kind of
downtown ish burned Down, Denver anyway, two pm on Sunday,
watch the game with Ben and Nick and you can
register to win Broncos Packers tickets.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
By the way, that's all presented by Arta.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Tequila, the official tequila of the Denver Broncos. So I
might I might actually do that for the first half
of the game, Dragon, and then drive home and then
listen to the second half. It worked last time, it worked,
last time I did it, So we'll give We'll give
that a try.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Dragon is very very certain that I need to do
all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
One quick kind of money and markets mention I would
like to make. It's been a sort of an interesting
period of time with the government shut down preventing the
release of some data that normally we would have gotten.
And the reason some of this data particularly matters is
that there's a FED meeting next week when the FED
is going to decide about whether the lower interest rates
(02:03):
or not.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You may recall there was a modest stock market.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Sell off a couple weeks back, a few weeks back
when the market started thinking that the FED would not
cut next week. I've been thinking the whole time that
they would cut next week. I maintain my view that
they will cut next week. But the reason I want
to mention this to you right now is that at
six thirty, which as I'm speaking to you in this moment.
(02:27):
It'll be different if you're listening to podcast, but as
I'm speaking to you at this moment, is twenty two
minutes from now, we are going to get the what
would it be October? I think they're releasing it later,
it doesn't matter. But we're going to get the last
inflation report that we'll get before the FED meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Which is next week.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So we'll just keep an eye on that, and in
the next hour after it's come out, i'll tell you
what happened. But economists are estimating around two point eight
percent for that. That Money and Market's commentary brought to
you by Blue Heron.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So a couple other stories I want to do.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I don't have don't have Gina's discipline to just stay standing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I mean I should.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Gina's been standing all morning, and I feel like, all right,
I'm a standing I sat down, I'm a stand up again.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I feel like I could be youth. Yeah. Yeah, So
I still don't.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Know how old Gina is, and I'm not asking, but
what we did ascertain yesterday is that I bought my
first computer before she was born. So we know what
the maximum we know what the maximum age is.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I would also like to mention again that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I encourage you to listen to Colorado his morning news
between five am and six am if you are awake,
because you're gonna learn things. And one of the things
I learned today and I said this yesterday too, by
the way, nobody asked me. Gina didn't ask me to
say it is so what I learned today was that
story about the sergeant showing up drunk at the Evergreen
(03:55):
High School shooting. What an insane, insane story. But yeah, yeah,
you learn things when you listen to Gina in the morning,
and hopefully when you listen to me and Gina together.
All right, let me do a couple of more national
stories now for a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Oh one other thing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Before I get to that, let me just tell you
some of the awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Guests we have coming up on the show today.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
In about twenty five minutes, we're gonna have Adam O'Neil,
who is the new opinion.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Editor at the Washington Post.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
This guy is being brought in by Jeff Bezos to
give a wider range of views and make sure that
some conservatives or libertarians or whatever along with liberal views.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Of course, are going to be heard.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, that's a mixing metaphors when you say, we're hearing
something that's in print, but you get the idea.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
So that's pretty cool. An hour later, so.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
An hour twenty twenty something minutes from now, Denver Mayor
Mike Johnston joins the show. In the eight o'clock hour,
we're gonna have Aaron Bird, who's the director of marketing
for Denver Botannic Gardens, talking to us about Blossoms of Light,
Trail of Lights, and we'll tell you about that, and
we're going to give away some tickets for that, and
then we're gonna have Ryan Edwards previewing the Denver Broncos
(05:02):
game in Las Vegas this Sunday. So all right, let
me do a couple of quick national stories with you.
So first, I mentioned this briefly yesterday just when the
news was breaking. There's a little more information now that
the FBI has erected or arrested a suspect in the
January sixth pipe bomb investigation. The videos showed that somebody
(05:26):
who was wearing a hoodie, a mask, glasses, and gloves
put pipe bombs next to the Democratic National Committee headquarters
and the Republican National Committee headquarters. What's very interesting about
this story, about the fact that they found this guy
five years later.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, there's a few interesting things about it.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But one of the things that really jumped out at me,
and I listened to some but not all, of the
press conference, is they said, so it was the FBI
director and the attorney general and the chief of police
for Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And a few other folks were there. What they said was.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
The way they cracked this case was they got rid
of the previous investigative team that was, you know, from
the Biden administration, and they just replaced them with new investigators.
And the new investigators did what investigators do, and they
found the guy without any new evidence or any new tips.
(06:29):
They used information, they say, they used information that the
FBI had already, which is sure not you know, a
reason for the previous group to win some kind of award,
except maybe Dumpkoff award or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But I thought that part of the story was very.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Interesting that they they solved it with data they had already.
They so, I guess the guy drove to the area.
His car license plate was seen on one of those
license plate readers.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So when they got to you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Know, having a few suspects, and they say, well, maybe
this guy, what's his license plate, Let's see if his
car was around there, right, So they did that. The
other thing they found was that his cell phone pinged
near the RNC and near the DNC. They found that
he's been buying bomb making equipment for probably at least
two years before that.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
What else.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The bombs apparently were viable, they said, which means theoretically
they could have exploded, but they but they didn't. He's
I think they said, he's thirty years old. He's a
African American man who who is described by Janine Piro
as quiet and low key. There's very little online about him.
So far, people aren't finding much of anything about you know,
(07:42):
what he believes, what he thinks, any political motivation, anything
like that. He lives with his mom and some other
family members in a house in a DC suburbs. Just
a very unusual kind of suspect for this, you know,
sort of guy in the picture NBC has, you know,
he's wearing a white shirt and blue tie and glasses
and a nice smile. Again, a young African American man.
(08:04):
And there's just a lot more, a lot more to learn.
Let's see, Gina already told you about the Texas maps,
so I think I'm not going to tell you more
about that right now. The one other national story I
just want to mention quickly is that you recall that
a court throughout the indictments against Jim Comey and Letitia
(08:26):
James that were brought in the Eastern District of Virginia
by a woman named Lindsay Halligan, who was named to
be the US attorney there, named illegally to be the
US attorney there. And also I think kind of unethically,
she never had anything to do with criminal law. She's
you know, like one of Trump's personal real estate or
insurance lawyers or something like that. But they put her
in that spot to try to go get Trump's political enemies.
(08:49):
A judge threw all that out a grand jury. What
the DOJ went back to a grand jury to indict
New York Attorney General Leticia James on this mortgage fraud stuff,
and they failed to get an indictment, which is pretty
remarkable because we hear all the time about how you
can indict a ham sandwich.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, I guess not if you're the Trump DOJ.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't remember if I heard this on KOWA or
on TV news, But did you see this story? I
think it came from Lending Tree of a poll about
which states had the best drivers.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Do you see in the story?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yes, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So, first of all, I.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Was really shocked, and probably all of us in this
room were pretty surprised that Colorado came out as having
the third best drivers, because I think a lot of
us don't don't think that way. I was also really
surprised that either first or second, I don't remember which
it was, it was California because I think of them
as terrible drivers, but especially when they come here.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Especially in the context of all the jokes that we've
been making, especially when we talked with Courtney from from
from KADIVR with her, you know, driving Miss das Daisy
designated driver with her that Michigan came in it was
either first or second best drivers in the country. And
that's why Gina can drive to Vail in the middle
(10:06):
of a snow storm in a two wheel drive Volkswagon.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
No, what's worse than that? People have ever driven Wolf
Creek Pass?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, that's what I did in my Volkswagon.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Uh did you realize.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Last year, two years ago Thanksgiving? It was just.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Honestly that was that was very, very reckless about The
snow was coming down so hard, it was so bad.
But we never drove Wolf Creek Pass before, so I
had no idea that there was just straight up cliff
sides next to us.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
We were just going through not a care in the world.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
But uh, yes, Michigan did top that list.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was Michigan number one, and then Florida, now California, Florida.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That's what I wanted, was Florida, Florida as the number
two best where the average age of a driver is
ninety seven years old.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I have lived in all three. Not Dragon.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I was Dragon looked at me, were like, wait, what
is that real? It wasn't real, Dragon, I was making
it all top three.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yes, it was in California, and Florida should be at
the very very bottom.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
My California thing was an error. But yeah, Florida, that
was that was weird. That was definitely weird. I think
Florida probably. So first of all, they probably drive real slow, right,
not all of them.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It depends where you are, right, if you're at Boca.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
With all the old Jews, like all of my distant cousins, right,
they're gonna drive pretty slow. But also they don't they
don't get much snow. Yeah, and and so I've.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Not looked into how they like decided on how they
would rank these.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Michigan was number one.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Michigan was number one, then it was Florida, then it
was Colorado. But when it comes to Florida, not only
do they drive really slow, but they drive in like
a careless, nice way of like they'll stop in the
middle of a road to let a car come out
of a driveway.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And then you've got everybody rear ended to each other
because they're like you don't stop right there. So it's
just like Michigan drivers though. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So what this says is what they're looking at accident rates, uys,
speeding related incidents and general citations, traffic tickets or whatever.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Speeding is probably where Florida gets high up.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, because they're.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Driving under Yeah, everyone's driving under this. But so now
at least all these jokes we are like half jokes.
They're not not you know, if you're going to be
driving in Michigan, but you know, in the winter, you
got to you gotta know what you're doing. So anyway, anyway,
I just thought I would share that with you. So
here's a goofy little thing. Today is Repeal Day. So
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it was on it was actually I think, yeah, yeah,
so it was December fifth, nineteen thirty three was the
end of prohibition, okay, and so December fifth today is
Repeal Day. And I know this is not a very
convenient time, but I'll just mention it to you because
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Axios Denver has this. There's a pretty cool Art Deco
style bar inside the Oxford Hotel Hell downtown and they
are celebrating Repeal Day with thirty five cent cocktails. Now
here's the catch, So Gina, pay attention, because you don't
live that far from all this. If you want a
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thirty five cent drink, it can be an old fashioned
a Manhattan, a Tom Collins, or a classic Martini. And
it's and it's at the the Cruise Room in the
Oxford Hotel. But it's only four pm to five pm today. Yeah,
so they put it at a time where very few
people are going to be able to get there, and
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they won't have to sell very many drinks for thirty
five cents, and yet they still get the gullible talk
show host on KOA giving them free publicity. Right, yep,
is there any do you drink any of those?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
And Manhattan all about old fashions of Manhattan's I don't
what were the other ones?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Tom Collins? I don't even remember what's in that dragon?
Can you tell us what's in a time?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Collins?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're asking the guy on the show that doesn't that
doesn't drink it all.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Not a freaking clue, Yeah, Tom Collins is a cocktail
made of gin lemon juice.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Sugar and carbonated water. Okay, I drink that like a spark.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
The second one gin lemon juice, it's like a sparkling lemonade.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
That sounds good, they call it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So that's and I like, I've just kind of started
getting into old fashions a little bit. Mostly I just
drink bourbon like neat rarely with one piece of ice,
but usually with none. So anyway, thirty five cents from
four pm. Here's what I want to do. Okay, here's
my goal. You're any people, here's what this is what
we're doing next week. I want to read a report
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in the news that the Oxford Hotel has gone bankrupt
because so many people went and bought thirty five cent
cocktails today from four pm to five pm as long
as I'm going to give them free advertising.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Is there a limit? Does it say any any type
of limit?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Doesn't say I.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Mean obviously they can't over sell you.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
But doesn't say I mean you could show how many
drinks because you buy with five bucks. They told me
there'd be no math, but it'd be like thirteen or four.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
So how many drinks can you drink in an hour
for thirty four cents?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Or could you order him in advance?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know, like, oh you know, send me they got
his five minutes left, Bring me three of them, right, yeah, Okay,
so people, this is our goal. Bankrupt the Oxford Hotel
by everybody going to the cruise room and buy thirty
five cent drinks from four pm to five pm.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That was very, very silly.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
When we come back, I'm so excited for this conversation.
Adam O'Neill is the new opinion editor at the Washington Post.
Not a guy who it's easy to get on a
radio show, but we've got him.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
That's after news, weather and traffic.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I am. I'm so excited for this conversation. You know,
I think you know if you've been listening to me
for a while, that I love I love reading opinion pages, editorials,
op eds, and I love writing them as well when
I have time.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And I saw a fascinating.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Interview, which, by the way, is link on my blog
at Rosskaminski dot com so you can read it yourself.
It was an interview by my friend Nick gillespie of
Reason with Adam O'Neill, who is the new opinion editor
at the Washington Post. And the headline is is the
Washington Post becoming Libertarian? So let's just jump right into
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the conversation. Adam O'Neil, Welcome to Koa. It's really good
to have you here.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
I'm excited to talk about what we're up to at the.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Post before we get it, and we're going to spend
almost all the time on that. But before we get
to that, just so tell us a little about you.
You told me you started a little bit in talk
radio at very low level, but like just briefly on
your background and also are you a libertarian?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Yeah, I have had a you know, I want to
I don't want to say a standard journalism career because
I've kind of zigzagged all over the place, but got
started in talk radio, bounced around at some digital publications,
spend time at a couple of newspapers and.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
The Economist, and then I've been at the at the
Post now for about four months. And as to whether
I'm a libertarian, you know, there's small libertarian, you know,
and capital l I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party,
and I don't know if every view I have is
necessarily libertarian, but I think that there's a lot that
the country can benefit from from a lot of libertarian
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ideas in different ways. And I think that's been reflected
a lot in what we've been doing at the page.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I have a feeling if if you and I sat
down over a beer or bourbon, we would probably agree
on a lot. I think of myself as mostly Lowercaselle libertarian.
My son's middle name is Rand to give you a
sense of kind of where.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Are I am? All right?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
So you you were? You were brought in for a reason.
Nobody makes a decision this big without a reason. What's
the reason or reasons why you?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
I think the posts we've really wanted to re energize
and reinvigorate the opinion section. Our owner announced earlier this
year that we would be reorienting the section toward free
markets and personal liberties, and those are north stars. And
if you look at the different places I've worked in
my career, that's always been a consistent through line of
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advocating these core American values, pushing for more freedom in
the economic realm, in the personal realm. And so it
just felt like a natural fit. And I had reached
out and went through the process. And so there's the
ideological aspect of it or the philosophical aspect of it,
and then there's just the practical matter of changing the
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newspaper and our section of the newspaper, the opinion section,
And that's really what I wake up and focus on
every day is how do we not just advocate that
north star and think through it, but how can we
host really interesting debates within free markets and personal liberties
because that's a huge range of prudential questions about how
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high should taxes be, what do you actually want to
regulate or not regulate, And so we're not, you know,
spitting out talking points, but really hosting a debate from
all sort of corners of politics in our pages.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I will say it was not entirely coincidental that after
reading this interview about you, I bought a digital Washington
Post subscription, So and I think that that sort of
relates to what you're saying about sort of the practical,
the practical aspect of this. I also want to I
want to remind listeners of something as we're talking with
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Adam O'Neill, the new opinion editor at the Washington Post,
that within these organizations, there's a very important firewall that
really is honored between the opinion section and in the
news people. So just as you're hearing this conversation, don't
think about the news part. It's not what Adam is doing.
So Adam, it did you when when you looked at
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the Washington Post as you were thinking about this job
within the opinion section, did you think that there was
an obvious bias either through what was printed or what
wasn't printed that made you think, for both of the
reasons you just described, like this is the kind of
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change we need to make.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Well, one first, thank you for subscribing.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That's exactly what we're trying to do is get subscribers,
not just in the DC area. We love our subscribers here,
we create a lot of value for them, but across America.
And I'll say this about the opinion section, they before
I arrived, the Washington Post had endorsed presidential candidates for
half a century and they never once endorsed the Republican.
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And I don't spend a lot of time thinking about
individual contributors in the past or looking back on it.
But one of our core issues is that we're a
non partisan institution. And I think that the Post, throughout
its history almost one hundred and fifty years, has done
great journalism, whether on the new side or the opinion side.
And there still does of people who were here before
I got here, who are still working here, who believe
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in the mission and are doing a great job. But
we've moved away from a partisan identity that the section
might have had in the past, and it hosted a
range of voices and so I don't want to paint
a broad brush on everybody. But the endorsement issue, I
think is just a real clear crystallization. Every four years,
you knew which party was getting the endorsement from the Post,
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and that's no longer the case. I want people when
they read us to be surprised, and I think that's
happening a lot. They're not going to know if we're
going to hit a Republican or Democrat or praise a
Republican or Democrat based on party. But instead it's first
principles that are guiding us. And that's really how we're
thinking about it going forward.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
As part of the process. Did you meet with Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jeff and I are totally aligned, and he's involved in
the paper, but he hires leaders to lead and not
really a micromanager on that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, got it, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So we've just got abe maybe ninety seconds here. So
how excited are you for this? And do you believe
that there is a real market? Because I do, Actually,
I don't know. For example, I don't know if you're
aware of a network called News Nation and they're trying
to stake out kind of being honest, and I.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Don't even want to say centrist.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I want to say even handed, because they'll have partisans
on both sides to have a debate. But they're even
handed and kind of feels to me like that's what
you want to do. But a lot of the big
boys in TV and even in newspapers seem to have
thought that the market just comes from offering confirmation bias.
So are you confident there is a market for what
you are trying to do?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
I genuinely do believe that there is. We've got millions
of subscribers. They're very smart, discerning people, and we're continuing
to provide a product that they're going to like. At
the same time, there are millions of people across America
who frankly don't trust big legacy media institutions, and what
we're trying to do is say it's going to take
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some time to rebuild that trust, but check us out
come to the opinion section, and you'll see that there
really is a range, and over time a lot of
things you'll say like, oh, hey, they were right about that,
or oh maybe they didn't get that right, but they
had an interesting way of thinking about it. And we
think that we can diversify our audience geographically, political outlook,
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different age groups. We really think that there are a
lot of people who would get a ton of value
from what we do, and they just either have lost
the trust or they just don't know it's there. So
it's finding the readers where they are and consistently showing
them there's value in the Washington.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Post and in Post opinion.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
You're going to have the most interesting debates going on
in the country on a daily basis when you open
up the app or the print edition or wherever you
like to read it or on social.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I will say, I believe you that you have smart
and discerning readers and subscribers, but you also have me
in addition to In addition to those people, you also
have me. So so there's that, and thanks so much
for your time. I wish you lots of success and
maybe if you're open to it. I'll be in touch
to see if I could potentially write for you from
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time to time.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I love that and you know I'd love to hop
on some time in the future just chat about the news.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It's great. Let's keep the dialogue going.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Ross Absolutely Adam O'Neill is the new opinion editor at
The Washington Post. Thanks, congratulations, good luck, and we'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Thanks man, Take care well.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Whiskey fans from across the country, possibly the globe even
lining up at Stranahan's Distillery and Denver ahead of tomorrow's
where Snowflake Whiskey release.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
The pre release party is kicking off with.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
The festivities today and Kaway's Connor Shreeve spoke with the
Straanahan's head blender Justin Adden about the events.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, we're gearing up as we speak.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
We're starting to have RB campers pulled in and get
situated in our back lot. But essentially what Snowflake is
is it started as an opportunity to release some very
rare whiskeys from the depths of our barrel warehouses, really
introduce new flavors, especially finishing styles.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Of barrels from around the world.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
And as that popularity and word of mouth got out.
We grew into a whole event, so so much more
than just a rare bottle release which will happen Saturday morning.
We now have what we call Snowflake Village and we
have people in and we've made basically a whole block party,
a giant tailgate out of it. Our entire distillery campus
is open. It's a free event. You're welcome to come in.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
We have live.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
Music, food trucks, there's a barrel demonstration, a cigar bar,
you name it.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
How long have you seen that line before?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's quite big.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
We usually expect about a thousand people actually on their
feet in line for Saturday morning.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
You've said a couple of times it's about more than
just a rare release, but the release, quite frankly, is
what matters to me.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So tell me about what we're looking at this year.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
Yeah, it's a blast, So we of course call it snowflake.
That term came from the idea that no two should
ever be alike. And I think when you think about
how much support we have and you recognize that fans
are coming sight unseen, it's baked into the very DNA
of this release that it's not going to taste anything
like last year or years past. What I get to
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do as a head blender is spend basically all year
long putting together some combination of flavors that they've never
seen before that I think are shining at the top.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Of their game.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
These barrels are peaking, and put them together and never
have to reproduce it again. So we take a ton
of pride in making sure it lives.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Up to that again.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
The Stranahan Snowflake release takes place tomorrow with the official
bottle release.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
People line up like it's Black Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
The exact time of the release is generally a surprise.
Ross will be honest, I don't really know if I
know the difference between whiskey and bourbon.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Is you're a bourbon drinker.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I like both. I used to be more of a
whiskey drinker. Now I'm more of a bourbon drinker. And
I'll bring you some of each and you can see,
are they not?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
They're not the same.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They're related.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They're closely related, although Buren bourbon generally has a lot
more corn. And yeah, they're they're they're closely related. And
you if since you don't drink a lot of either
of these things. You might not even think they're very different,
But I mean, are you open to a small taste
if I bring some as well, that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, that would definitely be fun.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
All Right, what we're gonna do here, We're gonna get
some weather and traffic and Gina on the news, and
then I want to share with you some of what
I think are the major takeaways from yesterday's congressional hearing,
at least what's been leaked about it. About that second
strike on a drug boat. I want to make sure
you know, for for Broncos fans out there on on Monday,
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Gina and I are going to have Broncos Packers tickets
to give away. More than one pair of tickets we're
gonna have to give away on Monday, So you're gonna
want to make sure to listen for that, And well,
of course you want to listen all the time anyway,
I know, I know. Uh So I want to just
talk a little bit about this hearing that was behind
closed doors, but it wasn't highly classified, and so some
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of the members of Congress who who heard from Admiral
Mitch Bradley about this second strike, and then I guess
third and fourth strike on this drug boat back on
September second. A lot of these folks came out and
talked to the media, and you know, sometimes after these things,
you'll see news reporting along the lines of a member
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of Congress said, whatever the thing is, and they don't
put their names on it because they're probably not really
supposed to be talking about it. But in this case,
all their names on it. It's very public. They're not
hiding anything. It wasn't really classified or at least heavily classified,
and I'm sure they weren't talking about the very classified stuff. Now,
there were a couple of things that came out of
the hearing that I think are important takeaways. First of all,
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you know, the Washington Post came out with what looks
like some pretty bad reporting a little over a week
ago in which they essentially claimed two things. They claimed
that the United States military struck a couple of guys
who are in the water having survived an attack on
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a boat, for the purpose of killing those guys. So
that's one thing, right they the claim was they struck
just to kill the guys. And then the second claim
was heg Seth gave the order, and it appears that
neither of those things is true. And I want to
be very careful about this. Now, heg Seth did give
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a written order we are attacking these boats, and apparently
in the written order, and they didn't say this to
begin with, but apparently in the written order, there is
some conversation about contingency, what happens if there are people
left alive, and apparently in that written order it says
something along the lines of if they are helpless and
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not trying to get back to doing what they were doing,
not trying to continue on them drug running mission, then
we rescue them. If they are trying to get back
to doing what they were doing, then we strike it again,
because our job is to take out the capabilities of
that boat, and if it happens that the people are
taken out with it, then so be it. But we're
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not really targeting the people. We're targeting that the operation there.
So the admiral now first of all, says that heg
Seth never issued in order to quote unquote kill everybody,
which is what the Washington Post reported. And I don't
think very many people are going to question this admiral.
This guy is a complete badass Navy seal looks like
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a bad ass. You just you're not gonna mess with
this guy. And there's no reason to think he's not
telling the truth. So it looks like he was not
given an order by Hegseth or by anybody else to
just go kill whatever people were there. And it looks
like the order he did did give, he gave. And
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this is where it'll be a little tricky now, he
gave because I guess a couple of guys I don't
know exactly how many, it doesn't really matter, but sounds
like they're talking about too were there. And this is
where you get the difference now between the Republicans and
the Democrats coming out of that meeting. So Tom Cotton,
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who is a conservative Republican senator who served in the Army,
said that he didn't see anything particularly troubling about it.
And he said, and I'm looking I'm just looking here
at the at the hill, he said, and I quote,
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I saw two survivors trying to flip a boat loaded
with drugs bound for the United States back over so
they could stay in the fight and potentially give them
all the context we've heard of other narco terrorist boats
in the area coming to their ai to recover the cargo.
So here's the thing that I don't understand. Is he
saying that drugs were on the boat, because if he's
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saying that he couldn't know because the boat was upside
down and they were trying to flip it. Is he
saying the boats were floating and I'm sorry, the drugs
were floating in the water, and that they were trying
to flip the boat back over and then toss the
drugs in the boat? Not sure? Is he saying that
he knows that they contacted other people in their organization,
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cartel and narco terrorists, whatever you want to call him.
Is he saying that he knows that they were in
this kind of communication and other people were coming or
is he just saying we've heard of that kind of
thing happening.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's really unclear.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Now you have another you have a Democrat member of
the House, Chris Heims from Connecticut, who described it as
one of the most disturbing things he's ever seen in
his time in public service. So, unsurprisingly, you have a
big difference here between how the Republicans are talking about
it and how the Democrats are talking about it, even
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though they all saw the same thing. One Democrat senator
did say he thinks it was a fair description by
Tom Cotton to say, yes, they were trying to flip
the boat back over.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So at this point we still don't know whether what
some might call an illegal order was given. But I
will tell you it is far less clear than it
seemed to be when the Washington Post Full Post first
put out that story, And if anything, I would say
that the original reporting looks much more wrong than right.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I did not know there was a song about Wolf
Creek Pass until we traveled Wolf Creek Pass in my
Voltswagen Jetta last two Thanksgivings.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Ago through a whole snowstorm.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And then we looked it up and we're like trying
to look at our path and where else we needed
to go. And the first thing that popped up was like,
if you need a description of what your drive.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Is on Wolf Creek Pass, that was the song. And
it's a great song. It's very catchy, but.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It talks about just the horrendous drive it is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I didn't know about it either until Dragon played it
for me like a month ago, two months ago something
I didn't know about it either, but it's a catchy tune.
It it's definitely a catchy tune.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Dragon.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You wanted me to remind folks about what burgers burgers
burgers Next Wednesday, That would be the tenth of December
at twelve oh one pm, although you're welcome to arrive
at noon. Is that a prime number? Twelve oh one, yes,
twelve oh one is a prime number. You take out
the colon, so just the whole thing, one two zero
one is a prime number. So twelve oh one pm
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you can meet me and Gina and maybe producer Shannon
at Crown Burger on the east side of Colorado Boulevard,
maybe half a mile south of I twenty five, between
I Lift and Evans. You are not We are not
buying your lunch, and you are not buying our lunch.
I might do some thing before then where if somebody
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maybe I'll do like a trivia question before then, and
if somebody gets it right and comes to lunch, I'll
buy their lunch. But just as a matter of you know, protocol,
here you're buying your own lunch and we're buying hours.
Next Wednesday, December tenth, call it noon, you know, if
you have to be like that at Crownburger and we
really really really.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Hope to see you there.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I want to actually take a minute about on a
story you just heard from Gina breaking financial news this
morning that Netflix has won the bidding to buy Warner
Brothers Discovery, and I just want to do a little
bit of finance nerdiness with you for a minute, if
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you don't mind. So, when you have these big mergers,
you always have government review, Federal Trade Commission review, sometimes
Department of Justice review, maybe even FCC review. With this
kind of deal, I'm not sure about that. And what
they're looking for is they want to prevent combinations of
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companies that they think will reduce consumer choice and allow
monopolistic or oligopolistic like behavior and pricing, such as raising prices.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Without offering more services.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Right typical, even though it's not a monopoly, still, when
you have fewer and fewer organizations competing in a thing,
you tend to have higher prices. For example, if you
were to think about some airline route that might have
three or four airlines flying that route a Denver to
New York City, that might have some particular price if
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one or two airlines dropped out of that, and then
you only had let's say two airlines flying that route.
The price would probably be higher, not as much higher
as if there were only one, but still higher. So
the government wants to keep an eye on this thing.
And so what I wanted to mention to you is,
especially because the Trump administration is much more aggressive on
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anti trust stuff then you would typically expect of a
Republican administration, they act a little more like Democrats when
it comes to this, So keep that in mind. And
so obviously Netflix is one of the biggest streaming services, right,
Warner Brothers owns HBO Max, and so this would be
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putting those together, and the government may look at that
and say it's anti competitive. Now I think it's nonsense,
because there's Amazon Prime and Paramount and Peacock and Hulu
TV and all this other stuff. It's I don't think
it's anti competitive enough to move the needle. And in fact,
it could even lower the prices because they might offer
a bundle where you could maybe get Netflix and HBO
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Max for less than you would now pay to buy
them separately. But I just want you to keep an
eye on that because they're the government is going to
have a hard look at this, and knowing what the
Trump administration is like in this area, yeah, there's a
decent chance that they will object, and then the question
will be can these two companies overcome those objections by
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doing stuff like saying, all right, well, sell off this
asset or sell off that asset. But I don't think
there's any way they would agree to a deal that
doesn't include Netflix ending up with ownership of HBO Max.
I think if they had to spin that off, I
think it would blow up the whole thing, something like
a Venezuelan drug boat. When we come back, Mayor Mike
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Johnston joins the show. Welcome to Ross on the News
with Gene. I'm Ross. That's Gina Dragon behind the glass,
and we are so happy to have back on the
show for yet another Friday and on time this time Denver.
Mayor Mike Johnston. I know, Mike, you said it was
our fault last time. Anyway, it's really good to have
you back. Thanks thanks for being here, Man, appreciate.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Itvett, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, lots of just kind of smallish topics I wanted
to cover with you today and Gina wants to cover
with you today. One thing I'm kind of interested in,
sort of from my background as a business guy, is
Denver buying the Denver Pavilions. And this isn't so much
a criticism, just like a little skeptical of government getting
involved in real estate deals. But it sounds like the
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eventual plan is not really for Denver to keep owning
this thing and fully develop it themselves and so on.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (39:20):
Yeah, our goal is to hold it and then put
it together and then find a partner to develop it.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The reason why we.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Did buy it was because we could bring together two assets.
If you've been to the Pavilions, we both bought the
pavilions itself. There are also two parking lots behind the pavilions.
Those were owned by different people, and everyone had always
wanted to develop both blocks together, but no one could
ever acquire both of them. We've acquired both of them.
That means you could now put a hotel up behind
the pavilions. You could put an apartment building up behind there,
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and that would really activate all those stores from the
hotel apartment side as well as from the sixteenth Street side.
And we just didn't want to see that site get shuttered.
You know, when they're owned by out of state investors,
they don't necessar really care how your downtown feels. It's
one of one hundred buildings they own, and so we
want to stabilize it.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We're going to go.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
Out and how people did for ideas on what they
would do for a joint development of those two blocks.
We'll find the best idea and the best partner, and
we'll hand it over to them to turn this into
a great magnet again for the next fifty years of downtown.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Where did the money come from.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
It's the Downtown Development Authority, so the city doesn't directly
own it. It's a tax measure that the residents and
businesses in downtown voted for to capture some of the
tax revenue that we can use to invest in downtown.
So it doesn't not city dollars, it doesn't touch the
general fund. It's not money we could use to hire
an employee. It's the very money that was used to
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develop Union Station fifteen years ago. And Union Station was
so successful it paid the bond back twice as fast
as I needed to, so there were fifteen years of
leftover revenues, and the voters downtown voted to use those
dollars to help support development in the rest of downtown.
So think about how vibrant and great Union Station is
now with you know, retail and stores and businesses, restaurants.
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That's what we want to do now for the pavilions.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Yeah, mister Marrow was at the Pavilions earlier this week
seeing Zootopia two.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Great movie, by the way, I'm excited to see that one.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
It's great, honestly highly recommend But yes, a lot of
those businesses do really need some help. You're seeing more
and more just closed businesses around those extra levels of
the pavilions and just need some more energy and more
life into it. Similar to other portions of the Sixteenth
Street mall. When we look at just our overall businesses,
I know we just passed small business Saturday and just
overall shopping holiday season, the busyness of it. Sixteenth Street
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really does have the revitalization that it's looking for. Hopefully
people can go down there and help their businesses. But
what else do we have to do when it comes
to our East Coalfax businesses, because I know they're struggling
similar to what we saw with Sixteenth Street when it
came to just construction and the RTD project that's underway there.
There's some businesses that you can barely find their doors
right now because that construction is all underway.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
On Colfax you got it.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
And it's exactly the same thing we faced on Sixteenth Street,
which is when that was under construction. We really had
to push hard to support those businesses to come through it.
The construction's over and now sixteenth is amazing and it's active.
We have forty to sixty now new businesses that have
opened in downtown this year. That's a great sign of revitalization.
And I've been I'm on Cool Facts, you know, a
couple times a week, as I try to every time
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I'm shopping or going out to eat, or my wife
I going out for date night. We try to do
it on Cool Fact. So I'd really encourage people to
shop and support those great stores is they're they're excited.
They know this new bus rapid transit will eventually provide
a lot more customers to them, But we got to
make it through the construction window. And so this holiday season,
I really encourage folks to go to cool Fax, whether
it's the shop to eat, to go to your favorite bar.
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We had loved those long term locally owned businesses there,
but we got to keep them going when this construction completes.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Mister Mayor.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
Also for those heading downtown this weekend, a lot of
people usually come from outside of the city for the
Parade of Lights. It's an awesome event every year, highly recommend.
But when it comes to just the overall congestion that
we see around the sad city, what's the safety and
security measures that you consider and keep in place when
it comes to Parade of Lights, but just any holiday
and busy events around the city.
Speaker 9 (43:06):
Yeah, we are really excited for the Parade Lights. I'll
be there tomorrow night and encourage everybody to come. We
also have the Chris Kremdal Market on a area campus.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We have drone shows every night.
Speaker 9 (43:15):
It's a fantastic holiday time to be downtown, so encourage
everyone to come. We have ramped up safety dramatically on downtown.
I actually love this stat. You know, you've probably seen
the Joker stats everywhere where. You know he is the
first player to lead the league from the decade and
both assists, rebounds, points and steals. We were looking at
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our crime data for the first time in Denver ever,
we're more than fifty percent reduction year over year in homicide,
more than fifty percent reduction in auto theft, more than
forty percent reduction in robberies, all of the same time,
all at the same year. So the city is getting
so much safer.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
And we've created our.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Own dedicated downtown police unit just to downtown. So when
you're downtown you'll see lots of friendly officers. Feel free
to say hi. They're delighted to see you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Let me follow up on this. I was going to
do something else, but.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What are you seeing in terms of any data so
far in whether the new sixteenth Street I guess you
don't call it them all anymore?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
And the new sixteenth Street is there?
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Is there retail traction there, you know, and to the
extent that that Denver has had a budget problem because
of flat sales tax revenue. Are you seeing stuff perking
up on sixteenth Street? And maybe related, are you seeing
any perking up in office occupancy around there?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Because those two things may be related. You got it.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
Those are exactly the metrics we're tracking. So the great
news is yeah, we are. So we do track foot traffic.
We're down to almost ninety three percent of the foot
traffic we had before COVID on sixteenth So that's where
I mean, that's the that's the gold center for city
that's going to get back to pre COVID downtown activation.
That's a great sign. And in terms of commercial leasing,
you're right. We now have had you know, three times
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more leasing requests on sixteenth Street for people who want
to occupy a new space is three times more requests
in the last three months than we had in the
last three years combined. So we're both seeing and then
when you talk to businesses down there, some of them
will tell me they're up thirty percent, they're up to
fifty percent, somewhere up one hundred percent. So they are
seeing more foot traffic, which is driving more revenue, which
will drive more sales tax And we think it's all
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heading in the great direction. But we just got to
keep more and more folks coming back. But I love
about brading life. Do you know, Folks who might not
have been downtown in a while come down, and I
think what they'll see is a very different Denver than
they've seen before.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And so the more we.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Get people to come back downtown and see it, the
more they say, Wow, this place looks great.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I'd love to spend more time here.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
Michael got about just over a minute left here. I
think maybe two times ago when you visited us, we
talked about what the Denver Summit Football Club people making
some noises about looking for a stadium somewhere else, and
you said, over my dead body, and you and we
had we had talked about how this is really kind
of an urgent thing because shockingly they need a stadium
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built like in less than three years. I mean it's
taken me two years and I don't even have my
home remodel done. So what's the latest on that.
Speaker 9 (46:02):
Yeah, you know, we are working hard. It'll be up
for a vote the fifteenth, which will be a week
from monday. We've been talking to all the council members
trying to answer all their questions. Talked to the commissioner
of the league this year, told me we're all in
this week and told her that we're all in to
move forward. Have been staying in touch with the ownership Grove.
We're really optimistic this is going to get moving. We
know people had questions. We think we've answered those. We
know everyone wants to see this happen. I mean, one
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exciting thing is you may know, you know, the opening
game for this team somewhat is going.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
To be held at Mile High.
Speaker 9 (46:29):
Actually, we've already sold almost thirty thousand seats for that game.
The commissioner says she thinks we're on path to sell
more than forty five thousand tickets. That would make it
the largest women's soccer sporting event in league history ever
in America for the first game in Denver. So there
is so much excitement about this team and about this
league that I know that we're going to get this
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done and we'll figure out how to get all the
problems and questions answered to get there. But I think
were very optimistic. We're going to be in good shape
to get this done and get the shovels in the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Denver me Er, Mike Johnson, thanks for your time as all.
Have a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
All right, you two, you too? All right, that's the mayor.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Still, there's plenty of other stuff going on in Denvers.
You know, we just talked about one thing the city
council has to vote on. But lots of financial stuff
in a in a city that has their their own
money issues, right, Gina.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
The text line I was just going through there was
a texture that spelled all of our names with the J.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
H huh.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I love that we've got that going. It's g J.
Why not with the J and why not dragon with
a J?
Speaker 4 (47:30):
There are you removing the R and the D when
you're adding the J? Or are they just putting a
J dragon? Clearly you would keep the R right, it
would be j R wagon. It wouldn't be I thought
it was gonna be jagging right, so I would definitely
still keep the R.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
There.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
There is some dude who keeps texting j oss instead
of R O S S. You could do J R
O S S anyway through points. Yeah, I don't know
which is a different word. That's not a very good word.
He's out the silent three all the time. You know what.
A listener emailed me and said, hi, Ross, and they
spelled it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
RO three SS with the with the silent three.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Gina does start with a J, just so you know, uh,
listener text high GENA. I believe white light is made
of all the colors, so maybe it's the best color.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Black is the absence of color, So yeah, it's an
interesting thing in light.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
For sure, white is all the colors, but if you
take your Crayola crayons and you color all the colors together,
it'll come out something like black, not like white at all.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
So that's that's uh, I just feel it.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Some years they have really really fun colors like Peach Fuzz,
Mocha Moose, which is really just like a brown Viva magenta.
We went with Cloud Dancer, but it's literally just white.
Cool name, but not really a color.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
And for those who don't know what we're talking about
here at the during the news there, Gina was talking
about the.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Pantone uh, Pantone color of the Year.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
For folks listening on the podcast and wondering why we're
talking about this right now. So during the during the
news broadcast, Pantone announced what was it called Scott something,
cloud Dance, clowd Dance, Cloud Dancer.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
No idea how they decide this.
Speaker 4 (49:16):
I don't know if you're supposed to incorporate this on
your walls and your home, on your furniture.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
I assume it's it's on your walls like a paint color.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
But I don't know how they decide on these every year,
but yeah, for some reason, last year we were like
a brown.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
This year we're white.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
So I feel like we're getting some pretty okay ugly colors.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, let me let me ask
both of you a question. And so I'm not really
kind of the page six National Inquirer People magazine kind
of guy.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Uh, but I saw this.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I saw this article because and it just all right,
here's the headline firm page six dot com, which I
think is New York Post maybe.
Speaker 10 (49:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
Travis Kelson he insists he and Taylor Swift never argue
as he gets marriage advice from George Cliney. I'm not
much of a George Cliney fan, but anyway, that's.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Not the point here.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
The Kansas City Chiefs player thirty six years old asked
the actor sixty four years old whether he stood by
his statement that he and his wife Amal had not
gotten in a fight in ten years, and Travis Kelsey
says he's never had an argument with Taylor Swift, And
at first I was about to throw the BS flag,
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but then when I hear the reasoning, I kind of
buy it because both of these guys said. Essentially, I'm paraphrasing,
but both of these guys basically said, if I get
in an argument, I'm gonna lose, so why bother getting
in the argument? And also I think I think George
Cliney said she's smarter than I am anyway, so why argue?
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So I'm gonna start with producer dragon, when's the last
time you had an argument with your wife?
Speaker 2 (50:55):
And what you and what was it about? And do
you argue much or hardly ever, hardly ever argue? So
I rely couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, it's smart of a guy to just yes, dear right,
and especially since she's worth a lot more than he
is good and he makes his own money, and he
makes a lot of his own money, but you don't
want to argue with the moneymaker.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
That's true. My answer, I'll say is is kind of
similar to dragons. Christ and I don't argue very much.
There's been some during this home remodel, like she thinks
one thing and I think another, But I almost always
lose or give up or something. But partly because I
just don't want to stay in the fight, and partly
because she's better at it than I am. And she's
better at knowing what the house is gonna look like.
(51:38):
But Gina, what about you? Uh, just this morning?
Speaker 4 (51:41):
No, just kidding, honestly, can I say that I almost
feel the same way as Travis Kelsey and I can't
recall an ever because I'm talking screaming match, not talking
to each other at least raising your voices.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Or having that never.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
But the opposite of his argument of I think it's
because we talk through everything before it.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
Escalates into something like that. He kind of agreed that.
He was like, I just don't start the argument because
I know she'll win.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
Yeah, we're usually like, Okay, this is something that we need.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
To talk about, now, let's talk about it. So I
almost want to say never.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
And you've been with your husband for a long time,
mean married recently, but you've been with them for a
long long time, about a decade.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, yeah, so wow, that's half your life.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Just keep the illusion going, all right, all right, we're
gonna do a cool thing in the next segment of
the show. We're gonna We're gonna talk with Aaron Bird
from the Denver Botanic Gardens about blossoms of light, trail
of lights.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Really cool things here.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
In Denver, and and we're gonna give away some.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Tickets for both of.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Those things, by the way, just a little inside baseball thing.
I normally make it a requirement if somebody wants to
be on the show to promote an event, I normally
say to them, I'm happy to have you.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Well we need free tickets for a listening.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
And I don't say I need free tickets for me
or free tickets for Gina or Dragon or whatever I mean,
but I always say, you know, if you want to
be on the show, there's got to be something more
and if we're listeners, So we're gonna have some tickets
to give away right after this.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Very pleased to.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Welcome to the show Eron Bird, who is director of
marketing for the Denver Botanic Gardens, to just tell us
a little bit about what's going on with these fabulous Well,
it's almost a light show, you might call it that,
at both the Denver location of the Denver Botannic Gardens
and the Chatfield location as well. Good morning, Aaron, Good morning,
So tell us what do we need to know?
Speaker 11 (53:33):
Sure, so we have two light events, as you said,
one in our York Street location, which is Blossoms of
Light And this is the fortieth anniversary of this event
started in nineteen eighty five and it has grown tremendously
over the years. And I know I'm biased, but I
will say I think this is the best year yet.
It looks incredible and it runs through January eleventh, and
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there are a handful of sold up dates, including this
weekend until Sunday. So do you require that you get
your tickets in advance, especially now as tickets are starting
to sell out, You're going to want to do that.
And then at Trail of Lights at our Chatfield Farm's location,
this is a beautiful light event that wanders through the
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historic farm the wooded trails and it's about a mile
long path and so it's a really immersive, cool experience
if you're looking for something just south of Denver, if
you don't want to head into the city. And it
runs the same dates as well through January eleventh. Both
events are closed on Christmas Night and that has more
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ticket availability, but still tickets are required in advance.
Speaker 4 (54:41):
Aaron Blossom of Loot Blossoms of Lights is a hot
commodity ticket every year. This was the first year I
was able to go to Trail of Lights, which is awesome.
Great for those who haven't seen it, you can go
to Koa's Instagram page you can see a full rundown
and walk through of it too. But Erin, I'm just
curious about the production value of how much work has
to art even if you guys know how many lights
are involved in the creation of both of these, because
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they're both unique and different ways you can go to
both and you're going to have a different experience.
Speaker 11 (55:07):
Oh, totally yes, And both of them are major labors
of love for our staff. And then we also have
outside support for streaming the trees and for Blossoms of Light,
we have way more. They're actually doing the official account
this week, so I don't have that number yet, but
it's way over a million lights, and they start installing
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the lights right after labor Day all the way two
we open, and the planning for it will start immediately
after it closes this year, So it really is the
biggest event that our team produces, and it does require
all year planning. And then at Trail of Lights, it's
pretty similar. I don't know how many lights they have there.
I know it's a little less, but it's again kind
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of around the clock planning and installing as soon as
we hit the fall time.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
So where can and should folks go to get tickets.
Speaker 11 (55:58):
Botanic Gardens or you can call a visitor center or
for just tickets in person ahead of time, not the
night of.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
That's fantastic. I'm looking forward to seeing it myself. Aaron
Bird is director of Marketing for the Denver Botanic Gardens.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Thanks for your time, Erin.
Speaker 11 (56:16):
You're welcome, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
Glad too, Glad too.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
All right, So, as I mentioned to you earlier, when
I have folks on like that, who are you, you know,
pitching something that they want people to come to. Even
if I think it's already awesome as a standalone and
it's good for you to know about it, I like
to make sure.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
They do something for listeners.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
And in this case, I asked Aaron if she had
some tickets we could give away.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Dragon.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
We're gonna do this as two separate giveaways so we
don't confuse, Okay, So the first thing we're gonna do
is give away a pair of tickets to the Blossoms
of Light. This is the one at the York Street
location in Denver. The main Denver location of the Denver
Botanic Gardens. So, Dragon, Texter number one at what time?
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Four at it was not prime?
Speaker 2 (57:04):
Good? Eight eleven and seventeen seconds.
Speaker 1 (57:08):
Okay, text number four at eight eleven and seventeen.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Seconds at five six, six.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Nine zero, And you need to include your name, your
email address, and just any indication that you're trying to
win the tickets. You can write tickets, you can write gardens,
you can write lights, you can write anything but your name,
your email address, and any indication. Text number four at
eight eleven and seventeen seconds will win a pair of
tickets to Blossoms of Light. And then we're gonna give
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away some more tickets after that. So in the meantime,
in the meantime while we work out this this giveaway,
I wanted to do just something very different with you.
Lighten it up a little bit briefly, and Dragon, how
much do you know about Elvis Presley?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Would you say?
Speaker 1 (57:49):
You know a little, a lot, almost nothing, played on
the guitar and had dark hair, right.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Gina, do you know more than more than that about
Elvis Presley?
Speaker 1 (57:58):
He passed, they called it, and they called him the king,
all right, So I don't know much more than you, guys,
But I did find some some info about him that
actually thought was was kind of interesting. So let me
just share a couple of things with you for fun,
and I'll ask you a question or two as well.
So here's just an interesting data point. So, Elvis Presley
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did what three three three concerts in Canada in nineteen
fifty seven.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Are you listening, dragon, what are you eating? What is
from oatmeal? Oatmeal? The maple pancake flavor oatmeal?
Speaker 5 (58:35):
That sounds awesome.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
So in nineteen fifty seven, Elvis did three concerts in Canada.
Those were the only concerts he ever did outside the
United States of America, and the incredibly never never went
to Europe all that time.
Speaker 2 (58:48):
Never went, never went. The manager wou never wanted him
to leave, so apparently that was one thing.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
And there was also a there was also a rumor
that he was afraid of flying, although he did do
a concert in Hawaii, but that was in nineteen seventy
three and he was probably on all kinds of drugs
for that. Now, Dragon, you said that he had dark hair,
did you know that Elvis's actual hair color was blonde
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and that he colored his hair from the time he
was very young with with I think shoe polish. When
he was young, it was shoe polish. When he was
old and rich, he was probably hair dye. But he
colored his hair his entire life. How about this one?
I got one more? I got one more for you here,
I'm gonna ask Gina this one. So Elvis recorded over
six hundred songs in his in his career. Out of
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the six hundred, how many did he write himself?
Speaker 5 (59:44):
Write him?
Speaker 2 (59:45):
How many? How many of the songs did he write
I have.
Speaker 5 (59:48):
A feeling it's gonna be very low. I'm gonna go low.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Mug be the exact topsicle. It's very high.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Okay, So each pick a number? Ten Okay? You said
six hundred, Yeah, six hundre five hundred. Okay, Gena's closer
you said ten. Yeah, So you're off by ten. You
don't write anything any of his own songs?
Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Is that crazy? Wow? Is crazy?
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
After all that, apparently he never learned Not only did
he never learn how to write music, you never learned
how to read music. Although he is listed as a
co writer on tracks, because the label insisted that the
people who were actually writing the songs give him credits
so we could earn more of the money and basically
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give him fifty percent of the whatever the songwriting money
would be.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Then a pretty crazy song. And then so anyway, all right,
that's all I'm gonna do for you in the Elvis stuff.
I thought that was fun.
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Now all right, let me do some other tickets and dragon.
By the way, I'm going to email these people directly
on how to claim their tickets. All right, So we've
got those coming in. So now here's here's what I'm
gonna do with this one. We'll do what we're gonna
do here is we're gonna give away either two or four.
You can choose two tickets or four tickets, but you'll
(01:01:05):
have to let us know in the text to the
Trail of Lights Denver Botanic Gardens Spectacular Lights Show. That's
at Chatfield Farms. Okay, so that's not the Central Denver one,
it's the Chatfield one, the Trail of Lights. So we'll
take texter number three, which is a prime number at
eight seventeen and seventeen seconds, eight seventeen and seventeen seconds,
(01:01:31):
Texter number three, and we need your name, your email address,
and whether you want two tickets or four tickets. Okay,
so there's that, and I think, yeah, I think that's good.
We've got still a ton of stuff to do, even
though it feels like we only got a few minutes
left together. A lot of the news in the past
(01:01:54):
few days has been about the first strike on one
of these drug boats. But the strikes on these drug
boats don't seem to be stopping, right, Gina, Folks, don't forget.
We are your home, your broadcast home for the Denver Broncos,
and on Monday, we are going to give away multiple
(01:02:14):
pairs of tickets for the Broncos Packers game.
Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I'll be on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Doing the microphone for that game, so maybe I'll see
you there. But we're going to be giving away those
tickets on Monday. We do have the Broncos Raiders game
coming up, of course, this weekend in Las Vegas, and
as always on a Friday, Gina is here to tell.
Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Us what other cool things are going on in Denver.
Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
This weekend holiday parade is free to attend and features
helium filled balloons, marching bands, horses, and of course, in
appearance from Santa Claus and Rudolph. The Colorado Holiday tradition
dates back to nineteen seventy five and has grown into
the largest and most watched parade in the Rocky Mountain region.
The parade steps off at six Saturday night, but you'll
want to get there early to stake out your spot.
Speaker 13 (01:02:58):
You can take to the ice yourself well that McGregor
Square Plaza. Bring your own skates or rent them at
the skating rink. The rink is open from Friday till
Sunday until January fifth, with skating costing just six dollars.
Kids under age two and seniors sixty five and older
skate free. Worried about the cold, an outside bar will
(01:03:20):
be available, serving hot chocolate and more.
Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
That's Kaoa's Mindy Stone.
Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
If you're looking for a way to shake up your
holiday tradition, Koy's Brenda Stewart has a suggestion.
Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
The long running.
Speaker 10 (01:03:30):
Sketch comedy Santa's Big Red Sack returns to the People's
Building on East Colfax and Aurora. Since it's debut in
two thousand and two, Santa's Big Red Sack has been
the ultimate antidote to Holiday's sweetness. It's a fast paced
comedy packed with original sketches twisted carols and a heaping
dose of subversive cheer.
Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
This is the final year for the legendary show and
it runs through December twenty fourth.
Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
A winter wonderland awaits you at the Denver Chris Kindlemarket.
It's located at the Tip Quad on the A Area Campus.
This year, the German style holiday market hosts both local
and European gifts, crafts and food vendors and entertainers. The
Chris Kendle Market runs from eleven to nine o'clock today
through Sundays and opens at one o'clock weekday afternoons. Plenty
of holiday light displays to enjoy throughout the season. Details
(01:04:18):
from our lead Christmas Lights reporter, Chad Bauer.
Speaker 14 (01:04:20):
Denver Botannic Gardens has its Blossoms of Light at the
York Street Gardens through Sunday, January eleventh, and their Chatfield
Farms location features Trail of Lights.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Denvers, Vegas Drive Through.
Speaker 14 (01:04:31):
Christmas light displays are back for the holiday season. Christmas
and Color has two locations at water World and at
Red Rocks Park, and there's the Zoo Lights at the
Denver Zoo Conservation Alliance on select nights through January fourth.
Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
In Sports, here's Koays, Keen and Dixon.
Speaker 15 (01:04:47):
It's CU versus CSU and men's college basketball tomorrow afternoon.
Our KOA coverage of that game begins at two point thirty.
DU's hockey team hosts the University of Miami, Ohio at
Magnus Arena tonight. The puck drops at seven o'clock and
the Broncos are on the road taking all the Raiders.
On Sunday, our coverage begins at eight am with Broncos
warm up and kick off at two o five.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Right here on KOA.
Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
And in concert news, here's KNA bender.
Speaker 16 (01:05:12):
Our sister's station, k TCL has there Not So Silent
Night at the Mission Ballroom on Sunday Night featuring.
Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Bob Moses and wet Lake.
Speaker 16 (01:05:19):
The Metal and Beer Festival It's at the Film More
now through Saturday. And don't forget kbco's studio See Volume
thirty seven CD goes on sale at seven o'clock tomorrow
morning at select King Sooper's locations around Colorado.
Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
And we're ass I'm literally holding Studio CE Volume thirty
seven in my hands as we speak on one D.
Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
There's one right there for you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Oh there's not one?
Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Is that other one over there for me, Yeah, I
ken be.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Brett Saunders joined me on Colorado's Morning News talking a
little bit more about it in the list of what
they have, and it's so funny because he talks about
every year there's people that show up and they're like,
you got volume nine because they like have the entire
collection except one always just missing one CD.
Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It's amazing what an institution that is.
Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Oh, it's so cool that it's a lineup.
Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Yeah, C the coolest thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
It's the coolest thing. And and Gin have you been
to Studio C.
Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
I haven't seen an artist yet.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Yeah, I've always seen one for people who you know,
know you know of Studio C. It's actually a room
or a couple of rooms or three. Really there's there's
the control room, the main room where the actual studio
where the musicians play, and their room with a big
glass window where you can watch and listen.
Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
And and these bands actually come in.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
And we've got all this professional set up here and
they and they play songs. So it really is a
studio here in the building. It's a pretty neat thing like.
Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Lumineers, Mountjoy Head in the Hearts, Molly Tuttle Counting Crows,
lightly Stupid Goose like it is a We're talking big
bands come in to do these intimate performancess for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
I mean, kb c O is a it's a legendary
rock station, you know, like KOA is a legendary talk station.
So it's pretty it's pretty cool to be in the
same building with all those guys. Kristin and I went
to see Mountjoy at Fiddler's like two months ago.
Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
He'll be at Bonnaroo next year, and I love did
you say he?
Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
So you think of it as like the main guy.
When you think of the band, you think of the
main guy.
Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I do think of the main guy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Should I be saying no? No, I don't care. I
think that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Actually, there's a whole thing there, like how many bands
when you hear about him, do you think of a
person in the band, even if the band name isn't
the person's day, even it's not Bruce Springsteen?
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Right, good point?
Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry everyone else in Mountjoy, but.
Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
All right, that's awesome. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I had I had asked a friend of mine, knowing
he was going to be in town to come join
us in studio, and he didn't say whether he was
coming or not.
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
And he's here.
Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
And I don't know if you ever watched The gut
Feld Show, but Jamie Lisso is an incredibly funny comedian.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
He's on The Gutfeld.
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Show every week and just to a super guy, really
funny as well. And he's going to join us in
studio for like an eight minute conversation or something.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
And again, if you're a fan of.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Gutfeld and of Lysso and you had a question for him,
just text it in at five six, six, nine zero
and maybe I can get Jamie Lisso to answer your question.
Keep it here on KOA. We've got your news, weather
and traffic right now. First time I had Jamie Lisso
in studio, I'm like, this guy's funny seeing them on TV,
and we kind of become friends and said hey a
(01:08:31):
little bit, went to a hockey game and so on,
and then I went to New York and actually saw
you do the gut Feled Show, which pretty cool to
see that actually actually happening. And Jamie is playing at
Comedy Works South at the Landmark tonight at very civilized times,
I should say six thirty and eight thirty pm tonight
and five thirty and eight pm on Saturday night.
Speaker 17 (01:08:51):
Dude, it's a better life, right, it's a it's a
better life. This idea to do earlier shows came from.
It was Naples, Florida people because of old people, so
many old people. Yeah, and it's it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 18 (01:09:04):
Man.
Speaker 17 (01:09:05):
They do they we'd had a four pm show. Really,
we had a midnight show at seven. It doesn't even
it doesn't even make sense. Did you sell out the
four pm show? We sold out the four pm show? Wow,
the sun was out.
Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Do people still enjoy themselves and maybe have a couple
of drinks?
Speaker 17 (01:09:22):
My crowd is more of a social We have very
few people that are like completely blacked out, which is
also a wonderful thing about the earlier times. Yeah, you
kind of come out, you have a few drinks, you
can still understand what's happening up there. And then they
go out later and get hammered. Or maybe there's a
late show at the club and it's one of those
TikTok a holes.
Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
But I don't have to be there, you know. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Oh that's let me throw one or two listener questions
at you got some listener questions coming in.
Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Uh, Hi, Jamie, I'm a nightly gut felt watch. I
always love it when you're on the show. Tell me
a little bit about what Cat.
Speaker 9 (01:09:57):
Is really like.
Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Oh, that's a that's a great question. Cat is awesome.
We text every day being Cat Cat.
Speaker 17 (01:10:04):
If anybody missed it, had the day she was having
her baby, she found out she had cancer in the
way when they were and she's been People always ask
me like, how she's doing. Yeah, just was texting with her.
She's completely cancer free, super excited. And if you know Kat,
and you're watcher of gttfeld, you know that happened six
months ago. She's already written seven books about it. So
she'll be promoting on the air.
Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
But she's a great She's a great girl. Yeah, and
I love her libertarian this, which which you know she
sticks to it. She sticks to her beliefs. Did she
still have a French bulldog?
Speaker 9 (01:10:34):
She so?
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Greg has a French bulldog and Cat you have? Cat
has a cat? Really? Cat has a cat Jeeves. I
believe it's called Jeeves. Uh huh. So I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Because you and I talk in between when you're here
in the studio, so I sort of maybe missed some things.
But I'm thinking last time you were here was maybe
just before you got married. I think, I think so,
I think you were gonna go get married just after that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
So are you still Are you still married? I'm still married? Yeah?
How is it? Let me just check my phone. Yep,
and it's feeling really good.
Speaker 17 (01:11:07):
You want to hear an incredibly embarrassing story for my
wedding day, a never century stor We got married in Vegas.
Bergmann was there, and we Bergman is my opening act
this week, Welcome to KOI Studio. He was the wedding
and we go, you know, Vegas is like Denver where
weed is legal, and we're not like huge weed people.
But I go, we should try. Would it be fun? Erica,
this is our wedding day, we just got married. I
would be fun to get like some edibles at this dispensary.
(01:11:29):
She goes, oh, i'd be fun. So I went in
and I go to the guy. I go, hey, I go,
could you just like the mildest thing you guys have?
And I go, we are not weed smoker people. And
then I goes, yeah, I gathered that from your use
of the term weed smoker people.
Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
And so he gives us these things.
Speaker 17 (01:11:43):
And I don't know if if we're just lightweights or
he didn't listen, but we're late. We took these little
edibles we were feeling. And we're laying in bed on
our wedding night and Eric Leane's over and she goes, hey, Jamie, I.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Got some bad news.
Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
And I go what, And she goes, I think that
I'm too high to have sex, right to which I
responded ross I said, I used to even worst news.
Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
As she goes, what, and I go, we just had sex.
Speaker 17 (01:12:06):
We just I'm not saying I'm like the best at it,
but oftentimes they remember for at least a few minutes.
Sometimes you have to write Joe. Sometimes your wife just
gives you one for free. Free joke.
Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
That is one of the great stories of all time.
As I was insulted, I couldn't wait to do it
on stage.
Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
She didn't actually give you the lowest dose or was
he like, eh, let's.
Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Get that's the question.
Speaker 17 (01:12:32):
It said it was five milligrams, okay, but that then
that's supposed to already don't.
Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Know if that's a little or a lot. I had
no idea it fell. You know, is that a lot
for me? Yeah?
Speaker 17 (01:12:42):
Yeah, it was that. You know, there's different strains. It
was a strain that made people forget something awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Matt.
Speaker 18 (01:12:52):
I want to I want to bring you into this
real quick because I think you and Ross should very
much chat because as soon as I search your name,
Matt Bergman could be and the first thing that comes
up is maybe Jewish.
Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
So funny. I was terrified by the way. I didn't
know where that was gonna go. Yeah, it makes me
worse things because.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Remember, remember on the tribe, not member of the tribe.
Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
We don't know. We actually don't don't know. Yeah, do
you know? Yeah, I'm one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I mean my twenty three and me came back ninety
nine point nine PERCENTAZI and.
Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
So yeah. I have a buddy back in Buffley's Jewish.
Speaker 19 (01:13:26):
Every time I see him, he tells me about the
twenty He's like, do twenty three and me, I'm like,
I'm I gonna do.
Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
I'm gonna pay for that. He's like, there's your answer.
Speaker 19 (01:13:31):
I go, okay, that's I don't like that as a
maybe member of the tribe, and I think let's come
from the home team. So I'm not sure how I
feel about that. It's pretty awesome, mel is a member
of the tribes. Jamie, probably not, I am not. We
should sometime when I'm here, Yeah, I should bring Boerbon.
We should do it twenty three and me on the air,
and we should you here, we should completely your joke.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Oh that we should do that next time, right, so here,
what you do is you you spit in the tube
at some point you get the results, but don't open them.
Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Come here and we'll open it on the air.
Speaker 17 (01:14:03):
Wouldn't that be great to ruin your only joke about
this topic?
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
That would be really something, Jamie is Jamie Lisso is
playing to night Matt Bergman opening coming in from Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
You're living in.
Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Buffalo now or you're from Buffalo Ridge from Buffalo, okay, DC, Yeah,
you told me you live on the on the south side.
So tonight at six pm and eight thirty pm. Tomorrow night,
five thirty pm and eight pm at comedy works out
that the Landmark got about ninety seconds left, Jamie, So
let's see if you can find a way and I
(01:14:36):
know you can.
Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I have deep faith in you to make fun of
the fact.
Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
That your lovely bride can barely get out of bed
because her back hurts so much.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
That's true. Maybe she had section she forgot, Maybe that's
what happened. Yeah, it's so good that her back hurts.
Is what's funny too, because she's a she's a doctor.
Speaker 17 (01:14:54):
What's funny is when when you want to have like sympathy,
right like, somebody goes on my back hurts. You normally
would say, hey, you should take this or do this,
but she's the doctor person, and so I just go,
You've you figured it out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Like he went to school for this right? Back is
the worst man, I feel like you.
Speaker 17 (01:15:11):
A way to tell you're getting older is when somebody
goes like like I like, you go, how did you
hurt yourself? When you're young, it's always a story like, oh,
how did you hurt yourself? Like, Oh, I was on
the skateboard ramp, I was doing this trick, you know,
I I slept with two girls.
Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
And then she When you get older, you don't have
a story.
Speaker 17 (01:15:26):
That's how you know you're getting older, because you know,
how did you hear your back and she goes, I
think I was just living my life. You know, I tried.
I think she heard it by hitting snooze on the alarm.
This is not even a joke, like that's not old.
She's not old at all. No, yeah, but she uh
it sucks man back. That kind of affects everything. It's
the worst.
Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I'll give you the name on my back doctor, but
make sure she knows that we tried to make fun
of her.
Speaker 17 (01:15:50):
I will another way getting older, because if you have
a doctor for every part of your body.
Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
You know that, she said, back when you're young, you
have one doctor doctor.
Speaker 17 (01:15:58):
Remember I went to my primary care physician once when
they started this transition e for me and I go, yeah,
my back's hurting, and he goes, oh, I got a
back guy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Amazing, Yeah, I said yeah, and he goes, what else
is wrong? On my foot?
Speaker 20 (01:16:08):
Herts?
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
He goes, oh, I got a foot guy. And I go, okay,
it's trying, and I go, can I ask you a question?
He goes, You go to go, what do you do?
What am I doing here? Yeah? Just sending me to the
other doctors. I think I could be a doctor.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
In fact, I just got a text like three minutes ago,
can you please tell me the name of your voice doctor?
Because I had a doctor. Who did I have a
voice doctor. Yeah, it's all, it's all true. But with
your wife, what's interesting is her specialty is the one
thing that definitely doesn't apply to you.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
That's correct, that's correct. She specialized in success. I'm just go, Yeah,
she's a she's a female.
Speaker 17 (01:16:42):
I wish I think I like that better ross as
a man, who you know, I have tendencies towards jealousy.
Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I don't I don't need a urologist, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
You're looking around like, oh, I could have had that one,
you know, you know, like when do you get an iPhone?
You see a nicer one, a bigger one, you know,
I don't even know they came in black, and you
just yeah, I prefer this.
Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Jamie Lisso and Matt Bern tonight and Comedy Works out
at the Landmark six pm and eight thirty pm Tomorrow
five thirty and eight.
Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I haven't checked which which shows are sold out.
Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
The clock is sold out, which must mean Denver residents
prefer the later shows.
Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
The other ones probably will too. Comedyworks dot Com for
your tickets. You'll laugh your head or some other part
of your body off, and then when you do, maybe
maybe Jamie's wife will help you fix it. Thanks so
much for coming in for really good to see you again, Ross,
really good to see you. Good to be shamads. All right,
break the leg. We'll be right back on KOA. So
just real quick, if you would like to see Jamie
(01:17:44):
Lisso at Comedy Work South at the Landmark tonight at
eight thirty pm, we will take the first texture right
now at five six six nine zero Dragon, the first
texture right now at five six six nine zero for
a pair of tickets for Jamie Lisso at Comedy Works
(01:18:07):
South at the Landmark. Don't worry if they don't put
that other information in, just go and get it from them,
because I want to get get going here. So we
just have a few minutes. Let me go right to
Ryan Edwards, co host of KOA Sports. Here on KOA
and Ryan, let's just preview the Raiders Broncos game a
little bit. We always want to beat the Raiders. We
(01:18:27):
hate the Raiders almost irrationally. So but if we're going
to be rational about this game, what do we need
to know?
Speaker 20 (01:18:34):
Well, we need to know that. Yeah, the Raiders are
struggling there to and ten. They've been eliminated from the playoffs,
so they are playing for nothing at this point other
than pride and maybe to be spoiler for the Broncos.
I Meanwhile, the Broncos are are getting relatively healthy. A
couple of injuries popped up yesterday that they're going to
want to monitor Zach Allens and practice. Pat Bryant got
a limited practice because of a hamstring, and DJ Jones
(01:18:57):
is still not practicing. So now the Broncos have a
few kind of nicks here, but this is a game
that they really should win, and they probably should win handling.
Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
It might be just the kind of thing that sticks
in your memory when it happens, and so maybe it
doesn't happen as often as I think, but I have
this sort of sensation that sometimes these spoiler teams that
are playing for nothing except pride tend to play better
than you would expect and end up actually spoiling.
Speaker 20 (01:19:25):
Yea certainly and as Division Game two. Right, So the
Raiders were more or less playing for nothing a few
weeks ago when they played Thursday Night, and it was
a ten to seven game, and the Raiders play tough.
They are going to show up and they're going to
get the Broncos more or less all they can handle.
It's just more at this point a bit of a
talent gap between the two teams. Plus I think the
(01:19:45):
Broncos coaching staff is going to hold that ten point
performance at home against the bad Raiders team on this team,
they're going to kind of hold that over these guys,
So I imagine they're going to come out with a
lot more focus in this one.
Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
It seems to me that an area that the Broncos
still really need to improve in is the running game,
especially with JK. Dobbins being out. Now, do you see
people who are currently on the Broncos that you think
could really kind of help them get the running game
to at least closer to where it needs to be.
Speaker 20 (01:20:18):
Well, they really.
Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Believe in R. J.
Speaker 20 (01:20:19):
Harvey, the rookie they took in the second round, and
I mean, of course this point that there's not really
much that you can say otherwise to say that you
shouldn't try at least continue to try to get him
more involved. Sean Payton said last week, he we drafted
this guy to be a runner. Not just a receiver
out of the backfield, but right so far we've seen
mostly out of the backfield his work, So I do
think that their expectation is to get him more involved
(01:20:41):
in the running game going forward. And then once again,
Jalil McLoughlin is the guy that is handled last even
last year over one hundred kerry. So they think that
they are fine and there right now, but they.
Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Continue to look okay, So what's your prediction.
Speaker 20 (01:20:55):
Well, I think the Broncos are going to win this thing.
I mean at this point, like I said, there's there's
a lot more to play for for the Broncos, and
in fact that they win this game than they own
the tiebreaker if it comes down to it on common
opponents versus the Patriots for the one seed. So there's
a lot of motivation here for the Broncos. I like
the Broncos to win this thing. In the neighborhood of
like twenty seven to maybe seventeen.
Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Ryan Edwards co host KOA Sports here weekdays three pm
to six pm. Have fun with your whole broadcast day
on Sunday. Ryan, We'll talk with you soon.
Speaker 20 (01:21:27):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Thank Okay, all right, well that's it for today. Thank
you Gina, thank you Dragon, Michael Brown. Next, have a
wonderful weekend. Go Broncos.
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
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